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I feel like it's mostly because league already has an inasne amount of lore and even though it has been changed over the years quite a few times, arcane really does a good job of refining it
Honestly VI is crazier because she was left in the dust and went back to live her life in a city that was getting violently oppressed by her ex for months and she still forgave her anyway. Which ties into the themes of the show as love is selfish and blinding but still 😩
Mayuri pretty much said this when he killed szylapporo in bleach. He said, and I'm parraphrasing, "A scientist seeks to get as close to perfection without every obtaining it. Once you obtain it, there is nothing left."
I think the biggest shift is that S1 was character driven, while S2 was plot driven. It changes a lot about not only the pacing but the whole FEEL to a lot of the scenes.
Disagree with a minor point, it looks like they wanted to set up a bunch of interesting places so once they were done with setting up zaun/piltover, they just moved onto other plotlines instead of resolving the drama there
yep. they didnt have s2 planned out when they wrote s1, because they didnt know if there would be an s2. they had to write a fulfilling arc and conclusion for every character, and that's far too ambitious to perfectly execute in a single 6 hour season.
@@sorenkair holy shit you couldn't be more wrong. The story of both seasons was written at the same time - this has been said multiple times by the creators and people who work around in Riot. My boi, you should fact check yourself before stating your theories as facts
@@Sonicmaster54 I think the issue is they cut out a lot of content so it didn't feel satisfying. Jinx Ekko and Sevika definitely had a bunch of cut scenes. I will give them credit for showing the other councilors resenting Sevika. Wouldn't be surprised if she has to fight off assassination attempts in the future.(Maybe by a certain Steel Shadow)
I think the biggest issue is a lot of what was written was actually cut. Like there was ment to be more of Jinx and Echo's talk which got axed. Even the final episode was chopped from 80-90 minutes to 50
One of the producer said the opposite toh, in a comment on reddit about the choices made with fortiche and not them just giving the script and saying “fortiche do this”. He said they never cut a 90 minutes episode
I really love that, even though most people are still pretty soft on the show because it looks and sounds jaw-droppingly stellar, the general sentiment is that it was unfortunately not as good as the first season. It shows the collective has actual good taste where writing is concerned, instead of just mindlessly shilling. If other Riot projects can achieve the levels of writing of the first season again, while continuing to let Fortiche cook, we are in for greatness.
@@atelheit I've seen plenty of people insisting that s2 is perfect, but on the whole yeah. I've been pleasantly surprised about being able to discuss the season's shortcomings without people taking it personally
@ i mean, season 2 wasnt bad by any means. It’s not as good as season 1. If season 2 is really bad as some people say then idk what a middle ground good show is
Arcane season 2 was still great, but I feel that cutting out the Black Rose would have helped with more time to focus on Viktor and Ambessa and explore them more before the finale.
The Black Rose segment is very useful towards setting up the spinoff shows. Not just for Noxus either, it gave a lot of subtle material for the verse in general. Though for the sake of s2 specifically, yeah it may not have been the most beneficial. But not for more Viktor and Ambessa exploration, I don't know why anybody needs more from either of them when they were some of the most complete characters of the show.
How else were they going to make Mel into an epic champion? Please be excited for the new League character! The show? Story? Who cares about any of that! Riot has skins to sell!!
That lazy mind space shit is the brain cancer of s2. Season 1 finale was 4 characters at the table - 1 died. Jayce could make Viktor a cup of tea and tell him Viktor sent him from the future.
Actually from animation of that quality not really, it's $14,000 for each 40 minute episode, where as into the spider verse cost $22,500,000 for each40 minutes, so while it is a big budget in the scheme of animation this quality it's really really cheap in comparison
60 of the 250 was spent on marketing and promoting season 1 alone, so essentially we got an animated masterpiece for 190 across two full seasons. Compared to other high budget animations I don't think its that massive at all. For context the lion king budget was around $200m for a 2h movie
How much did Beastars cost? That was the only other 3D show to make me think 'damn this was an option?' - also Stampede to a lesser extent. Facial expressions and little things in Arcane were S tier
If I remember correctly, the CEO of this animation studio said that if they wanted to make an animated adaptation of a manga they would like to adapt Vagabond. That's wild. 😮
That would be interesting but what would that even look like? Also they shouldn't touch the story elements if they're going to do what they did to season 2 of arcane.
I really liked this season. - Jinx and Vi being siblings - Viktor turning into a metal twink messiah - Isha - that one Sevika vs Smeech fight -Ekko breaking time (and our hearts) - Heimerdinger singing Wonderwall - Isha - like EVERY song in the show And finally: Vi eating her cupcake
Yeah, Vi gassed the people she grew up with and decided to bang her ex after her sister explicitly said she was going to off herself. But the important thing is that the shippers got their moment.
the animation was so good that i couldn't even focus on the story i was just blown away by what my eyes were feeling. only days later thought to myself "huh, well the narrative didn't really make sense"
Even the prettiest of animations is still trash when given bad scripts. Arcane’s writing should be the bar for writing shows where characters are characterized quickly and believably and the plot moves in a way thats 100% believable
Season 1 was the closest to actual perfection I've seen an animated show get. Season 2 falling just short of THAT because of improper pacing is nothing to be ashamed of.
@@ulizez89It was most-definitely time. Had they had more time, they would've been able to add much more to the writing. It's already been confirmed that loads of content had to be cut because of time constraints. They had a story in mind that they wanted to tell, but they didn't have enough time to tell it. If you want to get from point A to point B within the time you're given, you're gonna have to cut scenes out. That will always affect the quality of the shows' writing.
Season 1 will have been smoother but I preferred season 2 myself. It's easy to see what people are saying with the writing but when I watch a league of legends show I want action and character drama, season 1 had that for sure but it's hard to deny the sheer amount of stuff that got done in season 2. It may not have been perfectly done but that actually fits the hectic pace and uncontrolled drama the show is aiming for. The narrative mirrors the story which is a cool touch (obviously not intentional but it helps you feel slightly as the characters do, frantic and embattled to piece together what's going on). The amount stuff happening and the progress of the story was so much more. I'm surprised considering the time travelling part and Jason in the cave injured felt like they'd have wasted a lot more time than necessary. Still, season 1 was great for pacing but for me the visual flair, the satisfaction of the confrontations, the emotional character moments etc. There was just a lot more of what I wanted from a LoL show in season 2. It wasn't just bumping around some no name gangsters as much as season 1. I'd have been absolutely over the moon if this was a continuous show that would eventually show much more of the LoL cast and story (which would have been ideal for fans obviously) as that gets to the meat of bones of more characters, more story, more interactions. Final note, glad they lost some of the rap by the end as well, I'm not a fan of rap music and it held the first series back a little.
no, it's just simply bad writing, especially when they said they had already been working on another project for a year, you want me to believe they were short on time therefore they divided their work force on another project?
The man was worthless. I was so sure he was going to be important and if I didn't watch the show with a League player I would have been sure Loris was a playable character. He did nothing, said never little and then got fridged for Vi. One of the most disappointing new characters. The fish guy was somehow more worthless and they killed my darling gremlin Smeech far too early...
I think the opposite actually. Loris is a realistic character. He's not some flashy MC self-insert, he's a dude who's there, who leaves for a bit, who comes back. He doesn't come back in some rage or ulterior motive, he just... was off doing his life. They don't mention his name because he's just happy to be there and help. He's like the guy at work who you see top off your supplies every day, and you make small talk with, but you never caught his name. But once his replacement arrives, you're still sad to have lost him. Loris was given an anti-climatic death BECAUSE that's who he was. He died being what people needed, because that's all he ever wanted to try to be. You think in the span of... a handful of months(?), he went from a drunk (and presumably former Enforcer given how quickly they accept him in) to piloting their main form of offense in the attack? No one else probably wanted to be the MAIN target of enemy fire, so he stepped up.
12:17, If anything, this series and Spiderverse are hammering in the idea in the public zeitgeist the potential of animation as an art form to tell meaningful stories even despite whatever imperfection they specifically may have as individual works of art.
You know a show is GOATed when it can have some really fucking depressive/serious shit and then in the next episode find a way to melt my heart from happiness (I'm looking at you Episode 7).
And then depress you again. And then make you happy for a brief moment, before giving the most depressing moment in the whole series leading right into one of the most hopeful.
@@KaNoMikoProductions your rage bait is obvious but I do agree S2 threw out everything setup in S1. S1 was a grounded conflict of classism and family. S2 is Infinity War. They don’t blend well together
Ekko arriving with one of the biggest clutch moves in the history of animation is in my top 5 favorite parts of the entire series. The guy may not have had as much screen time but he definitely made up for it in quality.
It's even more funny when you think about that ekko and victor never met before. So when he threw the "time bomb" at him he was like who the fuck is that kid and where did he get that xD
Arcane is one of the last fruits of the streaming war: One of those mega budget series that doesn't make sense financially, but a series for both fans and creators nonetheless
Well, I think Arcane (and its successors) *can* make some financial sense on account of Riot Games being loaded as hell and this being their pathway into breaking LoL out of its hardcore gamer fanbase. Does 250M$ make sense for 18 episodes on Netflix? No. Riot lost money and so did Netflix. Does it make sense when it gets tens of millions of people interested in the League franchise overall? How Riot plays the next steps to this will determine that. Potential avenues could be things like a future theatrical movie, say at 50M$ budget for 2 hours runtime, pre-Arcane that would have giga-bombed but now? The right story with the right characters could make Spider-Verse level money. Or they could leverage the new fans they now have to expand the League gaming universe to other genres which didn't necessarily appeal to the core fanbase they previously had. I'm not going to go through all the potential ways to go about this, but the point is that every dollar they spent on Arcane doesn't need to be recouped by Arcane because it primarily serves to strengthen the IP they own which is the most valuable thing for media companies in the modern age.
@@PhilippeLepaffe What money did Netflix lose lol? Netflix just paid for distribution rights (3 mill per ep iirc) and marketed S2 (they didn't even market S1 because they thought it wouldn't do well). Riot paid for the entire show.
Know how I know Arcane is damn good? My wife thinks LoL is a stupid game. Hates the top down, repetitive nature etc. Know who had popcorn, drinks, and a full on mattress on the floor ready to binge Arcane Season 2 ready? My wife.
@@matkapfaruk6982 To be fair, arcane has almost nothing to do with the actual game. It doesn't even try to adapt any aspect of the game, just loosely the lore of the world and the character names.
my favorite quote that describes arcane is from a youtube comment i saw once and it stuck with me about how to describe how visually unbelievable arcane looks : "24 wallpapers a second"
Hi, animator here. It seems like the one big problem that we all can agree on is that we wish we had more. And honestly THAT is a big statement. We wanted MORE Arcane to really flesh out the entire story. No other issues, we wanted more. THAT speaks volumes.
Writing of season 2 aside Arcane truly is a work of art. Whether you enjoyed it or not there’s no denying how stunning the show is. Animators outdid themselves.
Pretty sure arcane glazers are the same idiots who say demon slayer is carried by animation yet go out of thier way to overhype shows with trash stories like arcane
@@kingdoom5022I agree with you but it's subjective, let people enjoy a show. Being negative all the time serves 0 purpose, toxicity is the rule of beast.
@@kingdoom5022Sure paceing is bad in season 2 but it had great moments. Obviously I would rather normal pacing and dont receve ending yet but it was good anyway
*Dabs in french animation* There are a lot of other things to discover here, but Arcane's clearly one of the best thing that came out from the country.
@@ratedr7845 "Japan was in the year 2000 in 1980 and was in the year 2000 in 2020". Arcane, Wakfu etc have just proven something I've been saying for over a decade, pretty much all Anime has fucking terrible writing, there is almost no innovation in the medium and at this point they are just running on rehashing the exact same tropes, plots and characters with a slight twist/remix, which feels like an entire industry running on fumes. People ripped me to shreds back in the early 2010s when I said that Anime studios should work way more with French studios to make something actually well written and unique, and I feel constantly validated every time France just curbstomps every anime in animation, writing and general story with utter ease.
No? It's just not true. The season absolutely sucked in terms of writing and pacing and was a complete let down compared to the first. There's no beauty in imperfections here, this phrase has nothing to do with something simply being subpar in terms of quality
The pacing was THE PROBLEM. Up until episode 6 everything was great, then episode 7 released and made many wonder how the hell was every plot point going to conclude with only 2 episodes left. It needed at least 2-3 more episodes. Some characters were irrelevant yet they still somehow got their " glorious moments" even though the audience didn't care about them at all.
Honestly, I feel like Season 2 should've been 2 Seasons. The second season should be focused on the Zaun vs Piltover War and actually fleshing out and explore the dynamics and fallout of the world and conflict. And also have Caitlyn face consequences from her Dictator Arc. Just give more time to flesh out the Zaun and Piltover characters, their relationships, and development. And then Season 3 should've been the Cosmic Machine Herald Viktor Revolution Arc. If they'd have done that, Arcane would've ended on peak.
@@ajiththomas2465 I agree, while they did everything right with the schedule they chose, that choice itself was a mistake. It is a miss how they set up the Zaun v Piltover conflict in s1, only to brush it aside.
@@eskildscott7841 The writing was really good 90 percent of the time too, they also used a lot of visual story telling which I really appreciate. The problems almost entirely fall on plot progression, you can call that writing but that's really schedule restraints. Some writing issues I can think of was Ambessa's end, and her going along with a very questionable jesus wizard is definitely not in her character.
Yes Pomme is 100% french, and can we say Stromae is 50% french (even 60%) so the song is at least 75% french. So it's french by majority. Vive la democracy, vive la France (if the song wouldn't have been good I would have say 100% Belgium... I admit 😂)
European animation studios became leaders in 2d/3d hybrid animation, Arcane, Blue Eyes Samurai(french and Japanese collaboration) Klaus, also allot of games cut scenes and trailers use this style
Especially the french school of animation. They have the culture of manga since the 80s (the mysterious golden cities, ulysse31 etc...) and have the animation national schools (gobelins, artfx, and the national school of arts). Alongside the financial support of the state and of a couple producers, making french animation films possible. This lead to the country having it s own school (as in style) of animation, with everything from training to post production.
Horayy.. now we can uh.. feel shittier about it? Whats the point of that? Pretty sure most people are aware of it, but its good regardless. Amazing event.
Piltover vs Zaun not being the focus is one of the main critiques I hear, but I think they did an alright job addressing it. Zaun’s independence was Silco’s ambition, and for the most part it died with him. The chem barons had a whole conversation where the general outcome was they are more interested in taking power in the Undercity than fighting Piltover. Additionally, there was a rally to try and drum up support, but without Jinx, no one was truly inspired to rise up. On top of that, a bunch of the people she showed up to save were killed by Warwick as he entered Stillwater. All this led to a general lack of desire to help topside in the war, but in the end the undercity came to Piltover’s aid, earning them a seat at the table. And that’s really what was needed in the first place. The Undercity now has a voice on the counsel, actual representation. Just like in our world, the counsel tried to slap a bandaid on the problems facing the city with Hextech instead of addressing the root cause of the disease, and now there is a real chance to fix the problems, especially with the only 2 creators of Hextech in Jayce and Viktor seemingly gone forever.
I think people will always have those critiques regardless, specifically because of how much time felt "wasted" on the Piltover vs Zaun conflict in the first season. Like it or hate it, humans want closure in order to feel satisfied. And when you set something up like the Zaun conflict to be so grand that the inciting incidents and climaxes of the first season evolve around said conflict, pivoting away from it to do the more overarching theme of Viktor's perfectionism will feel jarring without time in the oven. People enjoyed seeing the arguably skippable interactions of politics that the first season presented. How the heads of certain factions felt, and what would be the best steps to take. It was a part of the show's heart. Sure you can logically deduce how the outcomes and rationales of season 2's events makes sense in hindsight, but do the viewers feel like they were as much a part of the whole journey as they were in season 1? It's those kinds of extra scenes that really make a story feel complete ad consistent.
@@kayzaac Those feelings are subjective. Some people created their own version of how things should have been unfolded in the show based of their perception. However they shouldn't expect that the story they imagined must be the only story that is possible. The authors job is to make a consistent and logical chain of events, which was done great in Arcane.
@@dertgok9813 Personally I believe a great author's job is to do a bit more than that, and still consider the most likely feelings among the audience. In any case, sure. An author doesn't have to capitulate to people's feelings about how a story should go, but people don't have to act like they enjoy it when they have a common grievance with it. Blade cuts both ways, etc. Up to the author if they want that 10/10 audience rating.
The best way I can phrase my opinions on season 2: It's honestly worse than season 1. But season 1 was one of the best shows ever put on TV, so that's REALLY not saying much. It's like going from a perfect 10 to a 9.6.
No show is perfect. Season 1 was a 9 in my opinion. Season 2 is more like a 7. Still outstanding animation, great music, but the writing isn't as good. The final act was also rushed.
I'm apparently in the minority but I liked season 2 way more than 1. First season I respect and it was good but season 2 I couldn't wait to see what happens next, my experience of watching it was very different and much more positive. Visually as well it somehow looks way better which I didn't think could happen Only thing I can assume here is that I just don't value character drama as much as other people
@@Plo1154 You aren't really, there's a lot of people who liked season 2 as much as season 1. I noticed that those who have problems with second season have short attention span or don't really care about the plot.
I think Vi being unable to actually fight or stop Jinx was perfectly believable. People talk a good game, but when push comes to shove humans rarely actually have the resolve to change.
People analyzed their fight and everyone said it really did look like just two sisters fighting. Like they were scrapping but neither of them really wanted to hurt each other, they were both like if it happens it happens, but there was no hate between them they were just going thru the motions
@@PricefieldPunk I mean, during the fight Vi straight up *caught* Jinx when she was falling, that pretty much sells out how much "anger" she actually did have for her. Even if she is/was angry, actions speak louder than words, in the midst of battle she still subconsciously tried to protect her.
@@PricefieldPunkJinx shot her gattling gun and a rocket in Vi's face. I think you can drop the both are not trying to kill each other. VI's could have crushed her a few times, so yes Vi was holding back more
"You need to get me pregnant Jayce" - Viktor While I liked season 2 and the memes have been phenomenal, the ending left me wanting. "There is beauty in imperfections" is a great line until you remember that Viktor's disease was caused by piltover pushing their smog and waste into Zaun. The original conflict After a year of oppression the Zaunnites just show up to help piltover without any conversation? Then are given a single seat on the council where they are out numbered 5 to 1? KkKiramin weaponizing poisonous gas to facilitate a vigilante strike into a rebel country. They pushed that gas into regular streets, they caused terror.
I suppose I'm just weird, because there was never a point where I felt the story was going too fast, or things were out of place to me. Mel's discovery of her birthright as a mage at the hands of the Black Rose made sense, given the clues of how Ambessa was fleeing from someone in Noxus, and Mel's sudden glow and protective ability at the council attack. And no, Zaun and Piltover were not fine to work together in the end. Seveka and most of the Zaunites rejected Jace's appeal for help; it took Jinx to bring them to the fight. And I don't know how anyone could miss the looks of disgust by the rest as Seveka took her place on the council. All of the points are there to be seen. Like some of the best stories, the devil is in the details. And no, I didn't catch them all either, and I'm still finding new ones.
I agree. It is funny seeing people complain "They ignored the Zaum-Poltover conflict, and it is just "solved" in the end" → when as you said, we can clearly see that the rest of the council hates the idea of giving Zaun a sit on the table
I mean...pretty much the same thing happened in WW2, especially when it was over, of course not as rosy but still the essence is the same. I liked the theme of the season, I think life is like that, do things just happen one after the other? Sometimes it's just a hurricane you can't keep up with.
@@E_D___council not liking sevika = conflict being addressed? Lol, and why tf did sevika even get a seat on the council? Apart from us (the Audience) nobody in piltover knows who the fuck she is lmao. What did she do to earn herself a council seat? It makes no sense
The problem with second season is that it does not have character arcs. It's character segments. Feels like they're checking boxes with each episode, like "now we're here" and "now we're here", without really showing how a certain character goes from point A to B. Reminds me a bit of how Daenerys was treated, in the sense that her going mad was something that could have been credible at some point in the series, but not how they presented it, again because it was too rushed.
good thing that it will be mostly separate plot-wise on the micro level... this leave them with some ease to write the scenario without too many constraints from the previous story line of Arcane... Jinx to make a baton pass to another "cast" (probably in Bilgewater as animation hint to her flying east) black rose as a link for the next plot thing is, they don't even need to overly promote the future series now... let social medias do the work for them by distilling a few info, trailer, concept arts... whatever is made with the Fortiche style will be an easy sell... now, if they try for live action or different style, yes they will need promotion... and quality... because the animation style is so good it make anything different very difficult to satisfy the fans of the IP shows, so much that they could ruin expectations and future show... there are a few clear winners of the released products: Fortiche, the voice actors, the musics teams involved... each of them can do whatever they want, they have a very solid business card to introduce themselves (through, but for Fortiche, they already had ample exposure before). The Runeterra IP? It's still fragile and could crumble with a few bad turns. Will have to see how the Peneloppe of Sparta turn out for Fortiche (1st big work out of the LoL IP).
I'll never forgive netflix for chopping half of what should be the last episode and leave so many things unsaid. It was still amazing but the thought that we could have seen WAY more is just frustrating
That was Riot Games who paid for the $250 million production. Not Netflix who just paid for the distribution. So the blame is kore on Riot for not wanting to spend the time and effort for a Season 3. Honestly, I feel like Season 2 should've been 2 Seasons. The second season should be focused on the Zaun vs Piltover War and actually fleshing out and explore the dynamics and fallout of the world and conflict. And also have Caitlyn face consequences from her Dictator Arc. Just give more time to flesh out the Zaun and Piltover characters, their relationships, and development. And then Season 3 should've been the Cosmic Machine Herald Viktor Revolution Arc. If they'd have done that, Arcane would've ended on peak.
The showrunners said themselves it wasnt “cut”. They removed mainly action scenes from the initial cut because the animation studio was NOT finishing in time if they had to add another 30 mins of animation
If you want some other french recommandations, go watch "The Summit of the Gods", "Wolfwalkers", "Mutafukaz", "Persepolis", and the animated serie "Le Parfum d'Iraq", which you may struggle to find in english on youtube but is incredibly worth it. There's a long tradition in France of political animation, especially for people from the middle east.
the music video sequences were cheesy and cringe, like i couldn’t help but think the executives saw how much people liked that one time they did it in season 1 where it actually made sense to have and enhanced the established tone of the scene, and then thought obviously we need this in every single episode even if it completely butchers the tone set by the episode itself, the watchers won’t care and just clap and cheer for the pretty music and visuals just like last time.
I agree yeah. Amazing artistry in them. Incredibly well made but mostly felt obnoxious and unsuited, just pulling me out of the entire story. Way too "in your face bombastic" just for the sake of it. And even scenes like with Warwick vs Jinx, the super strong heavy metal was just distracting. It didn't feel suited at all to me. It was like it was trying to be cool but in a scene that should be terrifying if not sad. And the scene of Isha's sacrifice felt like it was glorifying child soldiers and suicidal sacrifice in the way that it tried to turn a tragic moment into something cool with her sliding across the floor all badass like and making cringy gun signs with her hands and all. There was no real gravity to the scene and she's never mentioned again after. Great animation and cinematography but just not fitting.
Season 1 was more coherent and focused, and maybe the series would have benefited from extra episodes or an extra season, but season 2 was still fantastic and I would still call it a masterpiece. Largely because they made the very wise decision of making family (and love/hatred) the heart and soul of the story, which caries on through the second season even when the plot elements are a bit more rushed.
a few more episodes and they'd of been equals storywise I think. a full extra season would of been worse than what we got unless they added even MORE plot. There was probably too much for 9 episodes of the length they had but definitely not enough for another 9 without having some episodes feel like nothing fucking happened.
@thewalrus45 In order to keep the three act structure, the best would have probably been an extra 10-20 minutes per episode. Of course, that's an extra 30-50 million dollars of production cost though (not to mention production time), so easier said than done.
@@MrPhilsterable it depends on the episode IMO, I think Act 1 basically is fine, like maybe an extra minute or two here and there. Act 2 Ep 4 too, 5 maybe like 5 minutes to explore Vi's pit fighter era a bit more, 6 is is one of my top 4 episodes of the show but that's one that could probably have used an extra 10. 7 is fine maybe another scene on Jayces side of things or something, 8 and 9 needed 20 more minutes each cause Viktor is just such a grand scale villain at that point + at least one more scene between Cait and Vi, maybe a final scene between Cait and Jayce, obviously the Ekko-Jinx talk.
Personally I think any pacing issues could have been alleviated by just a few more minutes of resolution at the end - this could have particularly helped with the Piltover/Zaun conflict follow-up. That’s my one real criticism of season 2. I didn’t have an issue with any of the pacing before the final episode. I don’t think it was ever truly rushed, just extremely efficient. Season 2 trusted the audience a lot more than season 1 to pick up on and interpret things. At any rate, season 2 act 2 was one of the most impactful TV viewing experiences I’ve ever had, and I will never forget Arcane for that.
isha is not a character. shes a plot device to redeem jinx. her sacrifice meant nothing. ambessa and viktor teaming up dosent make any sense. viktor was always against war but suddenly he teams up with a war monger, which he didnt even have to. his robots soloed everyone so why did he need ambessas help?
I think it was more that the doctor was under Ambessa's control and without him, Viktor couldn't be saved and transcend so he struck a deal with them as a group.
The biggest flaw for me was the plothole they created by showing more about the relationship between Vander, Silco, and Violet's mother. In Season 1, Silco doesn't seem to know anything about Violet or Powder, other than the fact that Vander adopted them. He even orders Decard to murder Violet. But in Season 2 we see Silco sitting there when Violet's mother reveals she is pregnant. He's right there when Vander suggests Violet for her daughter's name. They also make the timeline clear that Vander didn't attack Silco until Violet's parents were killed, meaning Silco was still around and watched Violet and Powder growing up. So how the hell does he not know or care who they are in Season 1? And even worse, why is he trying to kill them? Even if he had a grudge with Vander, he didn't with Violet's parents. And he WOULD know who Violet and Powder are. I also didn't like how they introduced Isha. She can't talk. Why? She's being chased by goons. Why? It's like they set her up as a mere sacrificial lamb to tug on peoples' heartstrings. But as soon as she dies, no one says her name again. Jynx does nothing in remembrance of her. She doesn't even get any PTSD flashbacks about her. And how they treated Heimerdinger was bad too. They made him out to be a doddering bufoon and then kill him off like it meant nothing. He dies because what he was doing was unsafe; the character who cares the most about safety dies because he was doing something reckless and stupid? AND they straight up lie about Silco when Jynx and Saveka are taking a dump on his memory. Jynx says he couldn't administer his eye-medicine stuff without help. But in Season 1, Episode 1 it shows him doing it easily. The only reason he had trouble with it later is because he'd been letting Jynx do it for years.
@@ma-cg1il I would find it very strange if Silco had such a close relationship with Vander and Violet's mother but somehow avoided being around Violet and Powder.
It's not true, that Jynx never does nothing in remembrance of Isha. The whole fucking war ballon screams of her: the bunny ears and the war painting. And Silco isn't in Vanders later memorys with Vi, Powder and theire parents, alluding their ways started to separte long bevor the total betrayal of Vander. So it doesn't seem as if he ever really got to know Vi and Powder. Yes, he probably knew who they were, but they didn't mean something to him. Maybe their mom did once, but actually he was willing to sacriface her live for his course as well, so why stop with her children?
Lets be honest - most of the players who complain about the cost wouldnt even buy it if it was a direct sale for 20$. League of Legends was always founded by whales - but only recently Riot started to make whale centric content
Loved season 2, and your joke at 11:00 to 11:27 is hysterical One thing I kept thinking when watching it was a sense of deja vu and I realized it is because a lot of overlap with Infinity War/Endgame - you have Viktor talking about how in all realities Jayce is the only one able to basically talk him down, essentially the 14 mil reality speech - Vi/Jinx having the Hawkeye/Widow moment playing out almost the exact same - time travel to bring something from another timeline to solve the problem with the big bad - even the fight between Cait and Ambessa basically ends when Cait slight of hand cuts off what i've affectionately referred to as the Riven Runes from the arm, just like Ironman taking the Infinity Stones back from Thanos in Endgame I'm sure there is more, but this kept popping into my head
It was kind of, but the timing was kind of odd, considering Jinx essentially just told Vi she is going off herself. Idk about you but if my sister just told me that I wouldn't be thinking about scissors once I am free to try and help her.
I think your really glossing over the ending. They haven't forgotten any of the conflicts, and if the show continues Piltover and Zaun will come to blows again. I can definitely agree some of the side characters don't get to do much other than fight, but the general plot doees work better than you're saying. They don't need an outright line of dialogue to address every plot point when they show it in the characters faces
Successful youtube videos are usually under 12 minutes. He crammed as much info as he could. If you want Gigguks more elaborate thoughts watch his live streams.
You can definitely see that everything isn't all hunky-dory between Piltover and Zaun when you see the looks on the new councilors faces as they see Sevika (and hers as well).
The writing is so clever for this series. The way they were able to tie in so many of the characters sidequests into one story that all connects is genius, albeit a little messy, but it could have gone way worse.
I don't care what anyone says. This is a masterpiece of a series and probably THE best western animated series. With the upcoming series the current unresolved storylines will be continued,
I love the part where he's like "they made me almost appreciate a FRENCH music" while praising the animation made by a french studio, (seriously did he not watch any documentary on arcane ? The staff at Fortiche barely know how to speak english)
I cannot believe, comprehend or fathom how good YOUR videos are, and since years at that. Simply impressive man. The storytelling, the analysis, the humor, the timing, the cuts, the graphs and what not. So smart, so well done, highest quality. Really impressive!
THANK YOU SO FREAKING MUCH!! For doing some actual critic to the second season. I loved arcane S2 too, but it isn't on par with season 1 and nobody seems to talk about the issues, Mel suddenly became captain marvel and did basically nothing except helping her enemies to kill her mother, Vi went through 7 seasons of character development en 1 episode, half of the cast died so quickly that you can barely remember what they did and Zaun didn't even get their independence. Still the best freaking series I've watched in years, but the S2 is TOO far from S1 in terms of writing. My mother binged the series and could remember perfectly everything in S1 but had to ask me twice what happened in S2 during the family dinners because it's hard to follow up and understand properly without all the external analisys from experts in different areas. I read that they kind of "rushed" S2 and did it in half the time than they did S1 so I truly hope they take their time with the next series they release so it comes out as a masterpiece like it was S1. However I will consume anything they release, even if it's half as good as S2 it would be awesome, but it would be sad to see something so glorious get a lower quality with each release.
Season one was perfection, the greatest thing i watched ever. Before s2 release i already knew it wont be as good as season 1 but apparently some little part of me hoped for it to be really close to it. That led to my dissapointment. S2 was still good but not even close to s1. S1 is just straight up 10/10 and s2 like 8/10. A lot of things in s2 bothered me a lot, for example too fast pace or bad writing in some parts.
Arcane is the perfect example of just because the show you watched was one of the best shows you have ever seen. Yeah do NOT play the game if you wanna stay sane.
pretty sure arcane glazers are the same idiots who say demon slayer is carried by animation yet go out of thier way to overhype shows with trash stories like arcane
Only French animators will have the balls to make the sex scene of Vi x Caitlyn. In case you didnt know, the original scene was even longer - but it was cut to get a PG13 rating
So glad you gave them the credit of what the work they put in, I think a lot of people aren't willing to look even a half a piece of what is above the surface
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Gacha garbage :O
Love that Arcane at its worst is still better than most shows at their best.
yeah i really like it, still think first season was better, think this one had to much shit happen at the same time, but was still good
I feel like it's mostly because league already has an inasne amount of lore and even though it has been changed over the years quite a few times, arcane really does a good job of refining it
@@AnteBoss you miss spelling a 3 letter word explains why you think arcane isnt peak animation
No it's not. S2 was very middle of the road as far as shows go. Great animation though.
I think the writing is still good it’s just so obvious this was 2 seasons of tv crushed into 1 season of television
Vi: cupcakke
Catilynn: So i betrayed everyone
Caitlyn kinda forgot that she cared about Vi until she remembered halfway through the season.
Caitlyn: "guess ill be hitler now"
Caitlyn 2 episodes later: "eh nevermind"
Peak trash
@@bigjen8238peak hate
Honestly VI is crazier because she was left in the dust and went back to live her life in a city that was getting violently oppressed by her ex for months and she still forgave her anyway.
Which ties into the themes of the show as love is selfish and blinding but still 😩
Jayce: There is beauty in imperfections
Viktor: There is no prize in perfection, only an end to pursuit
Ironically, it describes "arcane" both as a show and the magic itself.
Mayuri pretty much said this when he killed szylapporo in bleach. He said, and I'm parraphrasing, "A scientist seeks to get as close to perfection without every obtaining it. Once you obtain it, there is nothing left."
"There is beauty in your crippling handicap and terminal illness"
- Guy built like a quarterback with zero health issues
Yeah, but, Viktor's "imperfections" were killing him. So that message kinda falls flat
I prefer to take Viktor's message to heart, rather than Jayce's
I think the biggest shift is that S1 was character driven, while S2 was plot driven. It changes a lot about not only the pacing but the whole FEEL to a lot of the scenes.
Disagree with a minor point, it looks like they wanted to set up a bunch of interesting places so once they were done with setting up zaun/piltover, they just moved onto other plotlines instead of resolving the drama there
yep. they didnt have s2 planned out when they wrote s1, because they didnt know if there would be an s2. they had to write a fulfilling arc and conclusion for every character, and that's far too ambitious to perfectly execute in a single 6 hour season.
@@sorenkair holy shit you couldn't be more wrong.
The story of both seasons was written at the same time - this has been said multiple times by the creators and people who work around in Riot.
My boi, you should fact check yourself before stating your theories as facts
@@PropheticShadeZ They did resolve the drama of Zaun and Piltover. They teamed up at the end and Sevika got a seat at the council.
@@Sonicmaster54 I think the issue is they cut out a lot of content so it didn't feel satisfying. Jinx Ekko and Sevika definitely had a bunch of cut scenes. I will give them credit for showing the other councilors resenting Sevika. Wouldn't be surprised if she has to fight off assassination attempts in the future.(Maybe by a certain Steel Shadow)
They play Enemy and the one french song in the radio from time to time. How am I supposed to not think about Arcane every day?
Where is that radio?
Wait the day u hear the line in radio, it will change a lot 🤯
Jinx’s therapy bill could probably fund an entire Hextech revolution.
Imagine what it would be combined with Vi's. Their family therapy bill would cause another anomaly apocalypse.
Also paying out that life insurance for the trail of dead therapists...
The entire character roster needs a therapy (except from Heimerdinger).
@@theok391 Heimer is the therapist lol
The therapist will have to order another therapist.
You know it's a banger when even Joey's finally watching it
Are you serious? Joey's actually dropped his pretentious contratiwn hipster thing and actually watched Arcane? Are pigs flying? Is the world ending?
G2 gigguk collab?
@@ajiththomas2465 holup we need to win Worlds before that happens
@@G2LoL so 2025 right....right?
@@G2LoL wdym winning worlds? You're not even winning against kc
I think the biggest issue is a lot of what was written was actually cut. Like there was ment to be more of Jinx and Echo's talk which got axed. Even the final episode was chopped from 80-90 minutes to 50
It definitely shows. So many plotlines just felt unfinished.
One of the producer said the opposite toh, in a comment on reddit about the choices made with fortiche and not them just giving the script and saying “fortiche do this”. He said they never cut a 90 minutes episode
I really love that, even though most people are still pretty soft on the show because it looks and sounds jaw-droppingly stellar, the general sentiment is that it was unfortunately not as good as the first season. It shows the collective has actual good taste where writing is concerned, instead of just mindlessly shilling. If other Riot projects can achieve the levels of writing of the first season again, while continuing to let Fortiche cook, we are in for greatness.
@@atelheit I've seen plenty of people insisting that s2 is perfect, but on the whole yeah. I've been pleasantly surprised about being able to discuss the season's shortcomings without people taking it personally
@ i mean, season 2 wasnt bad by any means. It’s not as good as season 1. If season 2 is really bad as some people say then idk what a middle ground good show is
Arcane season 2 was still great, but I feel that cutting out the Black Rose would have helped with more time to focus on Viktor and Ambessa and explore them more before the finale.
It was for the setup for noxus season
The Black Rose segment is very useful towards setting up the spinoff shows. Not just for Noxus either, it gave a lot of subtle material for the verse in general. Though for the sake of s2 specifically, yeah it may not have been the most beneficial. But not for more Viktor and Ambessa exploration, I don't know why anybody needs more from either of them when they were some of the most complete characters of the show.
How else were they going to make Mel into an epic champion? Please be excited for the new League character! The show? Story? Who cares about any of that! Riot has skins to sell!!
@@angrynapolean3820 ?
Mel isn't a character in league. Maybe tft, but she has no skins there. Ambessa was the champion.@@angrynapolean3820
Jayce: my best friend turned into magic
Zuko: that's rough buddy
Zuko trying to listen to Jayce but gets too confused 5 words in due to hextech wizardry.
The animation at the end with Viktor and Jayce is amazing, every frame straight up looks taken out of a medieval mosaic
We don't speak about viktor, especially the rework
I rewatched that part 4 times in a row, it made me so emotional
@alacritysp I much prefer new Viktor over old copy paste generic ass machine viktor
That lazy mind space shit is the brain cancer of s2. Season 1 finale was 4 characters at the table - 1 died. Jayce could make Viktor a cup of tea and tell him Viktor sent him from the future.
My jaw dropped. I have not had a series, animated or otherwise, have my jaw involuntarily drop in a long long time.
That's an utterly massive budget but man can you see every single dollar on the screen with every episode of Arcane!
Actually from animation of that quality not really, it's $14,000 for each 40 minute episode, where as into the spider verse cost $22,500,000 for each40 minutes, so while it is a big budget in the scheme of animation this quality it's really really cheap in comparison
@bxbydrxgxn It's still a lot of hard work that went into every frame.
60 of the 250 was spent on marketing and promoting season 1 alone, so essentially we got an animated masterpiece for 190 across two full seasons. Compared to other high budget animations I don't think its that massive at all. For context the lion king budget was around $200m for a 2h movie
Massive huh? You know what else is massive
How much did Beastars cost? That was the only other 3D show to make me think 'damn this was an option?' - also Stampede to a lesser extent. Facial expressions and little things in Arcane were S tier
If I remember correctly, the CEO of this animation studio said that if they wanted to make an animated adaptation of a manga they would like to adapt Vagabond. That's wild. 😮
Manifesting this
Say hello to my new Roman Empire.
fair, people have fear of Vagabond getting an adaptation, even if picked by Ufotable or Kyoto.
That would be interesting but what would that even look like? Also they shouldn't touch the story elements if they're going to do what they did to season 2 of arcane.
I really liked this season.
- Jinx and Vi being siblings
- Viktor turning into a metal twink messiah
- Isha
- that one Sevika vs Smeech fight
-Ekko breaking time (and our hearts)
- Heimerdinger singing
Wonderwall
- Isha
- like EVERY song in the show
And finally: Vi eating her cupcake
Also: Singed was the secret MVP (or rather anti-MVP?) of the entire show. Bro did sidequest while still achieving his main goal.
We could have smeech + jinx season. All 9 episodes. Would be great
Uhh. Let’s kill isha again
In minecraft
Isha
"Vi eating her cupcake" being on here is so real. After everything she's been through, she deserves a little treat.
Yeah, Vi gassed the people she grew up with and decided to bang her ex after her sister explicitly said she was going to off herself. But the important thing is that the shippers got their moment.
the animation was so good that i couldn't even focus on the story i was just blown away by what my eyes were feeling. only days later thought to myself "huh, well the narrative didn't really make sense"
Arcane is a testimonial evidence that what's possible when Talented Animator's are given time , money and all the resource's they need.
Even the prettiest of animations is still trash when given bad scripts. Arcane’s writing should be the bar for writing shows where characters are characterized quickly and believably and the plot moves in a way thats 100% believable
But writers were given a middle finger, seems like
@mutantraze3681 Except it didn't do that because season 2 was all over the place in terms of plot and characterization.
Also that horrible writting ruins anything.
@@mutantraze3681 Hey at least still better then most stuff we got this year
Season 1 was the closest to actual perfection I've seen an animated show get. Season 2 falling just short of THAT because of improper pacing is nothing to be ashamed of.
It wasn't just improper pacing, improper writing would be more accurate. But yeah, the rest was on point!
@@ulizez89It was most-definitely time. Had they had more time, they would've been able to add much more to the writing. It's already been confirmed that loads of content had to be cut because of time constraints. They had a story in mind that they wanted to tell, but they didn't have enough time to tell it. If you want to get from point A to point B within the time you're given, you're gonna have to cut scenes out. That will always affect the quality of the shows' writing.
I'd say there is no price to perfection, only an end to pursuit.
Season 1 will have been smoother but I preferred season 2 myself. It's easy to see what people are saying with the writing but when I watch a league of legends show I want action and character drama, season 1 had that for sure but it's hard to deny the sheer amount of stuff that got done in season 2. It may not have been perfectly done but that actually fits the hectic pace and uncontrolled drama the show is aiming for. The narrative mirrors the story which is a cool touch (obviously not intentional but it helps you feel slightly as the characters do, frantic and embattled to piece together what's going on). The amount stuff happening and the progress of the story was so much more. I'm surprised considering the time travelling part and Jason in the cave injured felt like they'd have wasted a lot more time than necessary.
Still, season 1 was great for pacing but for me the visual flair, the satisfaction of the confrontations, the emotional character moments etc. There was just a lot more of what I wanted from a LoL show in season 2. It wasn't just bumping around some no name gangsters as much as season 1. I'd have been absolutely over the moon if this was a continuous show that would eventually show much more of the LoL cast and story (which would have been ideal for fans obviously) as that gets to the meat of bones of more characters, more story, more interactions. Final note, glad they lost some of the rap by the end as well, I'm not a fan of rap music and it held the first series back a little.
no, it's just simply bad writing, especially when they said they had already been working on another project for a year, you want me to believe they were short on time therefore they divided their work force on another project?
Finally, someone shows their appreciation for Loris. He got more love in this video, than the show
The man was worthless. I was so sure he was going to be important and if I didn't watch the show with a League player I would have been sure Loris was a playable character. He did nothing, said never little and then got fridged for Vi. One of the most disappointing new characters. The fish guy was somehow more worthless and they killed my darling gremlin Smeech far too early...
@@upg5147and the less said about Maddie the better.
@@upg5147 yeah this is textbook fridging. I didn't give a shit about his death because he's a blatant plot device
I do not believe you actually knew his name, and you only got it from watching subtitles.
I think the opposite actually. Loris is a realistic character. He's not some flashy MC self-insert, he's a dude who's there, who leaves for a bit, who comes back. He doesn't come back in some rage or ulterior motive, he just... was off doing his life.
They don't mention his name because he's just happy to be there and help. He's like the guy at work who you see top off your supplies every day, and you make small talk with, but you never caught his name. But once his replacement arrives, you're still sad to have lost him.
Loris was given an anti-climatic death BECAUSE that's who he was. He died being what people needed, because that's all he ever wanted to try to be. You think in the span of... a handful of months(?), he went from a drunk (and presumably former Enforcer given how quickly they accept him in) to piloting their main form of offense in the attack? No one else probably wanted to be the MAIN target of enemy fire, so he stepped up.
12:17, If anything, this series and Spiderverse are hammering in the idea in the public zeitgeist the potential of animation as an art form to tell meaningful stories even despite whatever imperfection they specifically may have as individual works of art.
You know a show is GOATed when it can have some really fucking depressive/serious shit and then in the next episode find a way to melt my heart from happiness (I'm looking at you Episode 7).
And then depress you again. And then make you happy for a brief moment, before giving the most depressing moment in the whole series leading right into one of the most hopeful.
I feel like we didn't watch the same show.
Arcane S2 shat on everything that made S1 great. Every episode was a disaster.
@@KaNoMikoProductions That's a weird way to say it improved characters and improved what was already established on S1... But whatever.
@@KaNoMikoProductions Dude, the only thing it did "wrong" is going too fast, stop trying to rage-bait.
@@KaNoMikoProductions your rage bait is obvious but I do agree S2 threw out everything setup in S1. S1 was a grounded conflict of classism and family. S2 is Infinity War. They don’t blend well together
Ekko arriving with one of the biggest clutch moves in the history of animation is in my top 5 favorite parts of the entire series.
The guy may not have had as much screen time but he definitely made up for it in quality.
He and jinx best written characters fr fr
EKKO the boy saviour
Bro, you people will scarf down any slop put in front of you.
Bro did not have a context on what's going on lol
It's even more funny when you think about that ekko and victor never met before.
So when he threw the "time bomb" at him he was like who the fuck is that kid and where did he get that xD
Arcane is one of the last fruits of the streaming war: One of those mega budget series that doesn't make sense financially, but a series for both fans and creators nonetheless
I'd say it is the Red Dead Redemption 2 of all adaptations. A LOT of muneh and work being put into a singular project that achieves universal acclaim
Well, I think Arcane (and its successors) *can* make some financial sense on account of Riot Games being loaded as hell and this being their pathway into breaking LoL out of its hardcore gamer fanbase.
Does 250M$ make sense for 18 episodes on Netflix? No. Riot lost money and so did Netflix. Does it make sense when it gets tens of millions of people interested in the League franchise overall? How Riot plays the next steps to this will determine that.
Potential avenues could be things like a future theatrical movie, say at 50M$ budget for 2 hours runtime, pre-Arcane that would have giga-bombed but now? The right story with the right characters could make Spider-Verse level money. Or they could leverage the new fans they now have to expand the League gaming universe to other genres which didn't necessarily appeal to the core fanbase they previously had.
I'm not going to go through all the potential ways to go about this, but the point is that every dollar they spent on Arcane doesn't need to be recouped by Arcane because it primarily serves to strengthen the IP they own which is the most valuable thing for media companies in the modern age.
@@PhilippeLepaffe What money did Netflix lose lol? Netflix just paid for distribution rights (3 mill per ep iirc) and marketed S2 (they didn't even market S1 because they thought it wouldn't do well). Riot paid for the entire show.
According to Riot's budget, it makes sense. Arcane may have cost a lot, but hmmmm wonder how much they made on those new skins.
it is partially also advertising, which could probably be considered if talking about "financiall sense"
Know how I know Arcane is damn good?
My wife thinks LoL is a stupid game. Hates the top down, repetitive nature etc.
Know who had popcorn, drinks, and a full on mattress on the floor ready to binge Arcane Season 2 ready?
My wife.
That doesnt mean LoL is not a stupid game
@@inasinas226 no bu it means that despite LoL being shit, Arcane was so damn good to the point that it captivated people who think LoL is shit
@@matkapfaruk6982 To be fair, arcane has almost nothing to do with the actual game. It doesn't even try to adapt any aspect of the game, just loosely the lore of the world and the character names.
Oh, look at you, having a wife and being happy!
No, I'm not jealous (yes I am)
yep she is right the game is stupid(stupidly addicting)
my favorite quote that describes arcane is from a youtube comment i saw once and it stuck with me about how to describe how visually unbelievable arcane looks : "24 wallpapers a second"
Hi, animator here. It seems like the one big problem that we all can agree on is that we wish we had more. And honestly THAT is a big statement. We wanted MORE Arcane to really flesh out the entire story. No other issues, we wanted more. THAT speaks volumes.
Writing of season 2 aside Arcane truly is a work of art. Whether you enjoyed it or not there’s no denying how stunning the show is. Animators outdid themselves.
No S2 was absolute garbage story wise carried by animation
Pretty sure arcane glazers are the same idiots who say demon slayer is carried by animation yet go out of thier way to overhype shows with trash stories like arcane
@@kingdoom5022I agree with you but it's subjective, let people enjoy a show. Being negative all the time serves 0 purpose, toxicity is the rule of beast.
@@kingdoom5022Sure paceing is bad in season 2 but it had great moments. Obviously I would rather normal pacing and dont receve ending yet but it was good anyway
Saying something is shit is not toxic@@koyaux
Arcane isn't even anime, but we love it here
It's actually a good thing
Yes
*Dabs in french animation*
There are a lot of other things to discover here, but Arcane's clearly one of the best thing that came out from the country.
@@ratedr7845 "Japan was in the year 2000 in 1980 and was in the year 2000 in 2020". Arcane, Wakfu etc have just proven something I've been saying for over a decade, pretty much all Anime has fucking terrible writing, there is almost no innovation in the medium and at this point they are just running on rehashing the exact same tropes, plots and characters with a slight twist/remix, which feels like an entire industry running on fumes.
People ripped me to shreds back in the early 2010s when I said that Anime studios should work way more with French studios to make something actually well written and unique, and I feel constantly validated every time France just curbstomps every anime in animation, writing and general story with utter ease.
@@KironVB anime WAS the new tightness that was innovative, but like you said, it's starting to eat itself
Arcane was proof that art still captivates an audience more than product.
art is part of the product dummy
11:59 "There is beauty in imperfections". That one is so perfect! You need an award for using that quote so perfectly!
No? It's just not true. The season absolutely sucked in terms of writing and pacing and was a complete let down compared to the first. There's no beauty in imperfections here, this phrase has nothing to do with something simply being subpar in terms of quality
Despite everything, I still can't call Arcane anything BUT a masterpiece.
Great review, the pacing is obviously a problem but what they did with the time they had was incredible and on point.
The pacing was THE PROBLEM. Up until episode 6 everything was great, then episode 7 released and made many wonder how the hell was every plot point going to conclude with only 2 episodes left. It needed at least 2-3 more episodes. Some characters were irrelevant yet they still somehow got their " glorious moments" even though the audience didn't care about them at all.
Honestly, I feel like Season 2 should've been 2 Seasons. The second season should be focused on the Zaun vs Piltover War and actually fleshing out and explore the dynamics and fallout of the world and conflict. And also have Caitlyn face consequences from her Dictator Arc. Just give more time to flesh out the Zaun and Piltover characters, their relationships, and development.
And then Season 3 should've been the Cosmic Machine Herald Viktor Revolution Arc. If they'd have done that, Arcane would've ended on peak.
@@ajiththomas2465 I agree, while they did everything right with the schedule they chose, that choice itself was a mistake. It is a miss how they set up the Zaun v Piltover conflict in s1, only to brush it aside.
not just the pacing, the writing was also lacking a bit compared to the first season
@@eskildscott7841 The writing was really good 90 percent of the time too, they also used a lot of visual story telling which I really appreciate. The problems almost entirely fall on plot progression, you can call that writing but that's really schedule restraints. Some writing issues I can think of was Ambessa's end, and her going along with a very questionable jesus wizard is definitely not in her character.
6:25 Don’t worry, that’s because they tricked you by hiring a Belgian singer.
And Fortiche Studio is french, so the whole animation part was made by french.
@altinopop6664 he's talking about the song, not the animation, ffs
only the male singer tho (Stromae), the female singer (Pomme) is French
Yes Pomme is 100% french, and can we say Stromae is 50% french (even 60%) so the song is at least 75% french. So it's french by majority. Vive la democracy, vive la France
(if the song wouldn't have been good I would have say 100% Belgium... I admit 😂)
@@flyghostdimension4621 he's not 60% french though, his parents are Belgian/rwandan lol
European animation studios became leaders in 2d/3d hybrid animation, Arcane, Blue Eyes Samurai(french and Japanese collaboration) Klaus, also allot of games cut scenes and trailers use this style
Especially the french school of animation.
They have the culture of manga since the 80s (the mysterious golden cities, ulysse31 etc...) and have the animation national schools (gobelins, artfx, and the national school of arts).
Alongside the financial support of the state and of a couple producers, making french animation films possible.
This lead to the country having it s own school (as in style) of animation, with everything from training to post production.
i had no idea blue eye samurai was french as well, the dialog struck me as very american and i couldn't finish it.
I didn't know Blue Eye Samurai was French.
@@simpson6700
That last part
I'm more of an Arcane guy myself but Blue Eye Samurai's dialogue didn't make it 'unfinishable'.
I have nothing but love for Arcane.
Finally, someone who doesn’t ignore the faults and just focus on the things done right
Fr like ofc glaze arcane but the faults shouldnt be ignored
Horayy.. now we can uh.. feel shittier about it? Whats the point of that? Pretty sure most people are aware of it, but its good regardless. Amazing event.
Piltover vs Zaun not being the focus is one of the main critiques I hear, but I think they did an alright job addressing it. Zaun’s independence was Silco’s ambition, and for the most part it died with him. The chem barons had a whole conversation where the general outcome was they are more interested in taking power in the Undercity than fighting Piltover. Additionally, there was a rally to try and drum up support, but without Jinx, no one was truly inspired to rise up. On top of that, a bunch of the people she showed up to save were killed by Warwick as he entered Stillwater. All this led to a general lack of desire to help topside in the war, but in the end the undercity came to Piltover’s aid, earning them a seat at the table. And that’s really what was needed in the first place. The Undercity now has a voice on the counsel, actual representation. Just like in our world, the counsel tried to slap a bandaid on the problems facing the city with Hextech instead of addressing the root cause of the disease, and now there is a real chance to fix the problems, especially with the only 2 creators of Hextech in Jayce and Viktor seemingly gone forever.
Gigguk was just lazy to make a proper analysis. Sometimes it seems that his chat writes the script for the video.
I think people will always have those critiques regardless, specifically because of how much time felt "wasted" on the Piltover vs Zaun conflict in the first season. Like it or hate it, humans want closure in order to feel satisfied. And when you set something up like the Zaun conflict to be so grand that the inciting incidents and climaxes of the first season evolve around said conflict, pivoting away from it to do the more overarching theme of Viktor's perfectionism will feel jarring without time in the oven.
People enjoyed seeing the arguably skippable interactions of politics that the first season presented. How the heads of certain factions felt, and what would be the best steps to take. It was a part of the show's heart. Sure you can logically deduce how the outcomes and rationales of season 2's events makes sense in hindsight, but do the viewers feel like they were as much a part of the whole journey as they were in season 1? It's those kinds of extra scenes that really make a story feel complete ad consistent.
@@kayzaac Those feelings are subjective. Some people created their own version of how things should have been unfolded in the show based of their perception. However they shouldn't expect that the story they imagined must be the only story that is possible. The authors job is to make a consistent and logical chain of events, which was done great in Arcane.
@@dertgok9813 Personally I believe a great author's job is to do a bit more than that, and still consider the most likely feelings among the audience.
In any case, sure. An author doesn't have to capitulate to people's feelings about how a story should go, but people don't have to act like they enjoy it when they have a common grievance with it.
Blade cuts both ways, etc. Up to the author if they want that 10/10 audience rating.
@@kayzaac Well, some people felt the story was rushed, others didn't. In the end, authors made the right choice to prioritize the story structure.
Ah yes the gigguk arcane glazing better keep parading it so joey watches it in 3 years
The best way I can phrase my opinions on season 2:
It's honestly worse than season 1. But season 1 was one of the best shows ever put on TV, so that's REALLY not saying much. It's like going from a perfect 10 to a 9.6.
imo its much worse than 1, but a lot of shows are outright bad, and s2 arcane definitely isnt bad.
9.6 is too much, I'd give it an 8.5 because the story brings it down way too much
No show is perfect. Season 1 was a 9 in my opinion. Season 2 is more like a 7. Still outstanding animation, great music, but the writing isn't as good. The final act was also rushed.
I'm apparently in the minority but I liked season 2 way more than 1. First season I respect and it was good but season 2 I couldn't wait to see what happens next, my experience of watching it was very different and much more positive. Visually as well it somehow looks way better which I didn't think could happen
Only thing I can assume here is that I just don't value character drama as much as other people
@@Plo1154 You aren't really, there's a lot of people who liked season 2 as much as season 1. I noticed that those who have problems with second season have short attention span or don't really care about the plot.
''Rushed Mangum Opus'' is the best description ive seen of this show.
10:59 that's a low blow 😔
It's not really 250 mil. 80 mil was spent on S1 and 100 mil was on S2.
Where did the other 70 mil go?
@@nyuu444 Marketing and other expenses that aren't directly related to production.
I wonder how much the budget was allocated for the music alone.
@@jcm2606 probably refurbishing executive office and Christmas bonuses to all the board members
@@nyuu444 you know....this one time i will allow it....they did allow greatness to happen after all.
Haven't seen this channel in a while, good to be back :D
I think Vi being unable to actually fight or stop Jinx was perfectly believable. People talk a good game, but when push comes to shove humans rarely actually have the resolve to change.
"She´s still your blood!"
"Then why are you the one acting like her?"
Still IMO the best moment in S2
People analyzed their fight and everyone said it really did look like just two sisters fighting. Like they were scrapping but neither of them really wanted to hurt each other, they were both like if it happens it happens, but there was no hate between them they were just going thru the motions
@@PricefieldPunk I mean, during the fight Vi straight up *caught* Jinx when she was falling, that pretty much sells out how much "anger" she actually did have for her. Even if she is/was angry, actions speak louder than words, in the midst of battle she still subconsciously tried to protect her.
@@PricefieldPunkJinx shot her gattling gun and a rocket in Vi's face. I think you can drop the both are not trying to kill each other. VI's could have crushed her a few times, so yes Vi was holding back more
I like the arcane I think Viktor deserves more arms
"You need to get me pregnant Jayce" - Viktor
While I liked season 2 and the memes have been phenomenal, the ending left me wanting.
"There is beauty in imperfections" is a great line until you remember that Viktor's disease was caused by piltover pushing their smog and waste into Zaun. The original conflict
After a year of oppression the Zaunnites just show up to help piltover without any conversation? Then are given a single seat on the council where they are out numbered 5 to 1?
KkKiramin weaponizing poisonous gas to facilitate a vigilante strike into a rebel country. They pushed that gas into regular streets, they caused terror.
Vi: cupcakke
Catilynn: And there goes my character arc
I suppose I'm just weird, because there was never a point where I felt the story was going too fast, or things were out of place to me. Mel's discovery of her birthright as a mage at the hands of the Black Rose made sense, given the clues of how Ambessa was fleeing from someone in Noxus, and Mel's sudden glow and protective ability at the council attack. And no, Zaun and Piltover were not fine to work together in the end. Seveka and most of the Zaunites rejected Jace's appeal for help; it took Jinx to bring them to the fight. And I don't know how anyone could miss the looks of disgust by the rest as Seveka took her place on the council.
All of the points are there to be seen. Like some of the best stories, the devil is in the details. And no, I didn't catch them all either, and I'm still finding new ones.
I agree.
It is funny seeing people complain "They ignored the Zaum-Poltover conflict, and it is just "solved" in the end" → when as you said, we can clearly see that the rest of the council hates the idea of giving Zaun a sit on the table
I mean...pretty much the same thing happened in WW2, especially when it was over, of course not as rosy but still the essence is the same.
I liked the theme of the season, I think life is like that, do things just happen one after the other? Sometimes it's just a hurricane you can't keep up with.
yeah im in the same boat
@@E_D___council not liking sevika = conflict being addressed? Lol, and why tf did sevika even get a seat on the council? Apart from us (the Audience) nobody in piltover knows who the fuck she is lmao. What did she do to earn herself a council seat? It makes no sense
I agree too.
Your modesty in success is what I admire most. Keep it up!
The problem with second season is that it does not have character arcs. It's character segments. Feels like they're checking boxes with each episode, like "now we're here" and "now we're here", without really showing how a certain character goes from point A to B.
Reminds me a bit of how Daenerys was treated, in the sense that her going mad was something that could have been credible at some point in the series, but not how they presented it, again because it was too rushed.
Vi went from "I want to help Caitlyn" to "I allow the gassing of Zaunites" real quick.
Bro, the name of this video changes every time it pops up in my feed.
The next Series really has some giant shoes to fill
good thing that it will be mostly separate plot-wise on the micro level... this leave them with some ease to write the scenario without too many constraints from the previous story line of Arcane...
Jinx to make a baton pass to another "cast" (probably in Bilgewater as animation hint to her flying east)
black rose as a link for the next plot
thing is, they don't even need to overly promote the future series now... let social medias do the work for them by distilling a few info, trailer, concept arts...
whatever is made with the Fortiche style will be an easy sell... now, if they try for live action or different style, yes they will need promotion... and quality... because the animation style is so good it make anything different very difficult to satisfy the fans of the IP shows, so much that they could ruin expectations and future show...
there are a few clear winners of the released products: Fortiche, the voice actors, the musics teams involved... each of them can do whatever they want, they have a very solid business card to introduce themselves (through, but for Fortiche, they already had ample exposure before). The Runeterra IP? It's still fragile and could crumble with a few bad turns.
Will have to see how the Peneloppe of Sparta turn out for Fortiche (1st big work out of the LoL IP).
I'll never forgive netflix for chopping half of what should be the last episode and leave so many things unsaid. It was still amazing but the thought that we could have seen WAY more is just frustrating
There was going to be more?
There was going to be more?
@@Zephyr314 Yes, about 30 minutes were cut from the last episode. I don't know if the other episodes were cut too or not.
That was Riot Games who paid for the $250 million production. Not Netflix who just paid for the distribution. So the blame is kore on Riot for not wanting to spend the time and effort for a Season 3.
Honestly, I feel like Season 2 should've been 2 Seasons. The second season should be focused on the Zaun vs Piltover War and actually fleshing out and explore the dynamics and fallout of the world and conflict. And also have Caitlyn face consequences from her Dictator Arc. Just give more time to flesh out the Zaun and Piltover characters, their relationships, and development.
And then Season 3 should've been the Cosmic Machine Herald Viktor Revolution Arc. If they'd have done that, Arcane would've ended on peak.
The showrunners said themselves it wasnt “cut”. They removed mainly action scenes from the initial cut because the animation studio was NOT finishing in time if they had to add another 30 mins of animation
Puss in Boots : The Last Wish
Spiderverse
Arcane
these 3 are perfection.
If you want some other french recommandations, go watch "The Summit of the Gods", "Wolfwalkers", "Mutafukaz", "Persepolis", and the animated serie "Le Parfum d'Iraq", which you may struggle to find in english on youtube but is incredibly worth it.
There's a long tradition in France of political animation, especially for people from the middle east.
The last wish is extremely overrated
People PLEASE watch The Last Wish and The Wild Robot.
@@eow4317 how come?
Only S1 for Arcane. S2 is just the shippers' wet dream
the music video sequences were cheesy and cringe, like i couldn’t help but think the executives saw how much people liked that one time they did it in season 1 where it actually made sense to have and enhanced the established tone of the scene, and then thought obviously we need this in every single episode even if it completely butchers the tone set by the episode itself, the watchers won’t care and just clap and cheer for the pretty music and visuals just like last time.
I agree yeah. Amazing artistry in them. Incredibly well made but mostly felt obnoxious and unsuited, just pulling me out of the entire story. Way too "in your face bombastic" just for the sake of it. And even scenes like with Warwick vs Jinx, the super strong heavy metal was just distracting. It didn't feel suited at all to me. It was like it was trying to be cool but in a scene that should be terrifying if not sad. And the scene of Isha's sacrifice felt like it was glorifying child soldiers and suicidal sacrifice in the way that it tried to turn a tragic moment into something cool with her sliding across the floor all badass like and making cringy gun signs with her hands and all. There was no real gravity to the scene and she's never mentioned again after. Great animation and cinematography but just not fitting.
Arcane does one thing amazingly well, and that is "show, don't tell."
absolute cinema
GLORIOUS cinema
Glorious Kino (rest in piece godly jawline)
Sum up perfectly everything i want to say about the show. Ty Gigguk, very nice !
They should pay more to offer us therapy after the show
Then don't watch .your lie in April
Madoka magica
Angel beats
@@wandering.prince.prajwal I watched them except madoka 😭
@@Farah56 berserk , promised neverland, clannad, akame ga kill
Season 1 was more coherent and focused, and maybe the series would have benefited from extra episodes or an extra season, but season 2 was still fantastic and I would still call it a masterpiece. Largely because they made the very wise decision of making family (and love/hatred) the heart and soul of the story, which caries on through the second season even when the plot elements are a bit more rushed.
a few more episodes and they'd of been equals storywise I think.
a full extra season would of been worse than what we got unless they added even MORE plot. There was probably too much for 9 episodes of the length they had but definitely not enough for another 9 without having some episodes feel like nothing fucking happened.
@thewalrus45 In order to keep the three act structure, the best would have probably been an extra 10-20 minutes per episode. Of course, that's an extra 30-50 million dollars of production cost though (not to mention production time), so easier said than done.
@@MrPhilsterable it depends on the episode IMO, I think Act 1 basically is fine, like maybe an extra minute or two here and there. Act 2 Ep 4 too, 5 maybe like 5 minutes to explore Vi's pit fighter era a bit more, 6 is is one of my top 4 episodes of the show but that's one that could probably have used an extra 10. 7 is fine maybe another scene on Jayces side of things or something, 8 and 9 needed 20 more minutes each cause Viktor is just such a grand scale villain at that point + at least one more scene between Cait and Vi, maybe a final scene between Cait and Jayce, obviously the Ekko-Jinx talk.
Personally I think any pacing issues could have been alleviated by just a few more minutes of resolution at the end - this could have particularly helped with the Piltover/Zaun conflict follow-up. That’s my one real criticism of season 2. I didn’t have an issue with any of the pacing before the final episode. I don’t think it was ever truly rushed, just extremely efficient. Season 2 trusted the audience a lot more than season 1 to pick up on and interpret things.
At any rate, season 2 act 2 was one of the most impactful TV viewing experiences I’ve ever had, and I will never forget Arcane for that.
The fact it is the same studio that made the Stupid Rabbit animation 😭
Yeah, it's the Rabbids.
Damn, their portfolio is stacked
Wait really?
I was expecting the League client pop of sound when finding a game at the end as a garnt joke
isha is not a character. shes a plot device to redeem jinx. her sacrifice meant nothing. ambessa and viktor teaming up dosent make any sense. viktor was always against war but suddenly he teams up with a war monger, which he didnt even have to. his robots soloed everyone so why did he need ambessas help?
I think it was more that the doctor was under Ambessa's control and without him, Viktor couldn't be saved and transcend so he struck a deal with them as a group.
Victor made it clear that he welcomed anyone who wanted to evolve
Arcane is in the HOF of shows, period.
I feel that season 2 falling short from perfection is just nature making sure people don't get too comfortable defending LOL
The biggest flaw for me was the plothole they created by showing more about the relationship between Vander, Silco, and Violet's mother. In Season 1, Silco doesn't seem to know anything about Violet or Powder, other than the fact that Vander adopted them. He even orders Decard to murder Violet. But in Season 2 we see Silco sitting there when Violet's mother reveals she is pregnant. He's right there when Vander suggests Violet for her daughter's name. They also make the timeline clear that Vander didn't attack Silco until Violet's parents were killed, meaning Silco was still around and watched Violet and Powder growing up. So how the hell does he not know or care who they are in Season 1? And even worse, why is he trying to kill them? Even if he had a grudge with Vander, he didn't with Violet's parents. And he WOULD know who Violet and Powder are. I also didn't like how they introduced Isha. She can't talk. Why? She's being chased by goons. Why? It's like they set her up as a mere sacrificial lamb to tug on peoples' heartstrings. But as soon as she dies, no one says her name again. Jynx does nothing in remembrance of her. She doesn't even get any PTSD flashbacks about her. And how they treated Heimerdinger was bad too. They made him out to be a doddering bufoon and then kill him off like it meant nothing. He dies because what he was doing was unsafe; the character who cares the most about safety dies because he was doing something reckless and stupid? AND they straight up lie about Silco when Jynx and Saveka are taking a dump on his memory. Jynx says he couldn't administer his eye-medicine stuff without help. But in Season 1, Episode 1 it shows him doing it easily. The only reason he had trouble with it later is because he'd been letting Jynx do it for years.
How would he know VI is short for Violet? Besides, just because he knew their mother doesn't mean he watched them grow up
@@ma-cg1il I would find it very strange if Silco had such a close relationship with Vander and Violet's mother but somehow avoided being around Violet and Powder.
It's not true, that Jynx never does nothing in remembrance of Isha. The whole fucking war ballon screams of her: the bunny ears and the war painting. And Silco isn't in Vanders later memorys with Vi, Powder and theire parents, alluding their ways started to separte long bevor the total betrayal of Vander. So it doesn't seem as if he ever really got to know Vi and Powder. Yes, he probably knew who they were, but they didn't mean something to him. Maybe their mom did once, but actually he was willing to sacriface her live for his course as well, so why stop with her children?
250$ is a number no league player likes RN
Lets be honest - most of the players who complain about the cost wouldnt even buy it if it was a direct sale for 20$.
League of Legends was always founded by whales - but only recently Riot started to make whale centric content
Loved season 2, and your joke at 11:00 to 11:27 is hysterical
One thing I kept thinking when watching it was a sense of deja vu and I realized it is because a lot of overlap with Infinity War/Endgame - you have Viktor talking about how in all realities Jayce is the only one able to basically talk him down, essentially the 14 mil reality speech - Vi/Jinx having the Hawkeye/Widow moment playing out almost the exact same - time travel to bring something from another timeline to solve the problem with the big bad - even the fight between Cait and Ambessa basically ends when Cait slight of hand cuts off what i've affectionately referred to as the Riven Runes from the arm, just like Ironman taking the Infinity Stones back from Thanos in Endgame
I'm sure there is more, but this kept popping into my head
maybe the first or only video where gigguk is right abt his takes all the way through and doesnt fumble some massive point. well done
sexbian lex scene is incredibly important to the plot
Fax
nice bait
It was kind of, but the timing was kind of odd, considering Jinx essentially just told Vi she is going off herself. Idk about you but if my sister just told me that I wouldn't be thinking about scissors once I am free to try and help her.
it unironically is incredibly important for Vi and Caitlyns character arcs.
@@vilxxblack2472Vi literally tell Jinx that she should't come back in s2e9... So only we know that Jinx is suicida but not Vi.
I think your really glossing over the ending. They haven't forgotten any of the conflicts, and if the show continues Piltover and Zaun will come to blows again. I can definitely agree some of the side characters don't get to do much other than fight, but the general plot doees work better than you're saying. They don't need an outright line of dialogue to address every plot point when they show it in the characters faces
Successful youtube videos are usually under 12 minutes. He crammed as much info as he could.
If you want Gigguks more elaborate thoughts watch his live streams.
Why does this oddly sound as parroting of what the Co creator said in a stream and his meltdown post on Reddit?
@@NerdyDumbProductions because it is
@@NerdyDumbProductions What meltdown post?
You can definitely see that everything isn't all hunky-dory between Piltover and Zaun when you see the looks on the new councilors faces as they see Sevika (and hers as well).
11:02 This top laner can barely breathe now after choking on my drink from laughter.
This is so fucking accurate lolol. Even the question pings when the ADC dies.
The writing is so clever for this series. The way they were able to tie in so many of the characters sidequests into one story that all connects is genius, albeit a little messy, but it could have gone way worse.
Completely agree with you
For me conclusion matters a lot so unfortunately it gets 7/10 😢
I don't care what anyone says. This is a masterpiece of a series and probably THE best western animated series. With the upcoming series the current unresolved storylines will be continued,
Ooof Avatar says you’re wrong
Literally just finished season 2 and came here to make sure you had made a video on this masterpiece.
Season 1 10/10
Season 2 8/10
Jinx is alive
Season 1 9/10
Season 2 7/10
Victor is alive
Season 1 10/10
Season 2 9.9/10
@@НесторБескибалов
Season 1: 9.5/10
Season 2: 8.5/10
@@MegaSKyFall ?
@@НесторБескибалов season 2 wasnt as good as s1 but its still better than any other tv show season by far
Loved hearing counter attack-mankind at 1:10 brought back memories
Man has reached enlightenment.
favorite part of every Gigguk video about 85-95% in when the hardest AMV you have ever seen randomly drops
Yo Garnt, this video is pure fire. Give your editor a raise
Intro was hilarious
I love the part where he's like "they made me almost appreciate a FRENCH music" while praising the animation made by a french studio, (seriously did he not watch any documentary on arcane ? The staff at Fortiche barely know how to speak english)
When i saw what Victor wanted to do i went "this is infinite tsukuyomi wth"
Every frame of arcane is wallpaper worthy.
Thats the best way i can describe its animation quality.
Ever since your first arcane video, I checked everyday for the second season's video from you daily since I finished arcane.
Great work Gigguk!
Bro just finished a league game WITHOUT having seen arcane.
Im the WORST
The money is on the screen
Quin at 0:46 😂 Didn't expect that crossover lmao
I cannot believe, comprehend or fathom how good YOUR videos are, and since years at that. Simply impressive man. The storytelling, the analysis, the humor, the timing, the cuts, the graphs and what not. So smart, so well done, highest quality. Really impressive!
THANK YOU SO FREAKING MUCH!! For doing some actual critic to the second season.
I loved arcane S2 too, but it isn't on par with season 1 and nobody seems to talk about the issues, Mel suddenly became captain marvel and did basically nothing except helping her enemies to kill her mother, Vi went through 7 seasons of character development en 1 episode, half of the cast died so quickly that you can barely remember what they did and Zaun didn't even get their independence.
Still the best freaking series I've watched in years, but the S2 is TOO far from S1 in terms of writing. My mother binged the series and could remember perfectly everything in S1 but had to ask me twice what happened in S2 during the family dinners because it's hard to follow up and understand properly without all the external analisys from experts in different areas.
I read that they kind of "rushed" S2 and did it in half the time than they did S1 so I truly hope they take their time with the next series they release so it comes out as a masterpiece like it was S1.
However I will consume anything they release, even if it's half as good as S2 it would be awesome, but it would be sad to see something so glorious get a lower quality with each release.
Season one was perfection, the greatest thing i watched ever. Before s2 release i already knew it wont be as good as season 1 but apparently some little part of me hoped for it to be really close to it. That led to my dissapointment. S2 was still good but not even close to s1. S1 is just straight up 10/10 and s2 like 8/10. A lot of things in s2 bothered me a lot, for example too fast pace or bad writing in some parts.
if they made a game with the arcane characters + story & baldurs gate 3 gameplay... it would blow everyones minds!!!!
Arcane is the perfect example of just because the show you watched was one of the best shows you have ever seen. Yeah do NOT play the game if you wanna stay sane.
pretty sure arcane glazers are the same idiots who say demon slayer is carried by animation yet go out of thier way to overhype shows with trash stories like arcane
@@kingdoom5022 Obvious troll is obvious
Holy duck you have no life, spamming a copypasta in every single comment reply.
@@ShFred
Are you projecting lil guy
your bar is below sea level
Probably the most clear eyed viewpoint of the show I've seen, thank you. Really good take.
We can talk about Arcane every single day Garnt
bro had a relapse
I couldn't agree more; excellent commentary on an amazing show that ended biting off way more than it could chew in a season.
Just a reminder that Studio Fortiche is french.
Just as small reminder to the usual troupe of France/French haters online, enjoy the show ;)
Only French animators will have the balls to make the sex scene of Vi x Caitlyn.
In case you didnt know, the original scene was even longer - but it was cut to get a PG13 rating
So glad you gave them the credit of what the work they put in, I think a lot of people aren't willing to look even a half a piece of what is above the surface