Every time I think of Suramar, I am reminded how desperately this game needs end-game zones or at least small areas in the leveling zones. Maybe we need attunements back. That's a great RPG element that shouldn't be lost to time, right Ion?
On SL alpha right now, it seems like every zones story won't take you through the entire zone. So it looks like there will be a area in every zone where you get to continue and finish the stories through the covenants, which to me seems great
@@erikrindalsholtfredriksen4888 Having more content than required to hit level cap is a very good idea - WoD started this trend off big time, having something new to find on alts is great
I get you there, quite often endgame zones are later in an expansion tbh, like Tanaan Jungle, Timless Isle etc to name a few. I think it was really the story that made Suramar memorable and special. You could tell a lot of effort was put into it. I dont know how Blizzard could do it again, but id love to see them try
I really just loved legion. I couldn’t get my hands on it for a while until Argus, but every second of playing this game during this time was amazing. The only thing that I loved nearly as much was the initial zones in kul tiras. As a lore nerd I don’t think anything is going to outdo legion.
@@maloum1550 Yet Drustvar is considered one of the best zones in terms of atmosphere, music, and enemies. BfA sucked, but the leveling zones were well done.
@@BooguyTheAdept I havn't been following shadowlands too closely tbh, id like to give it a real first impression whenever i do get it - but if its something akin to Suramar, im all up for that
Suramar city was the first proper city to quest in, it was great. Yeah, making chunks of zones into city scapes looks great. In BFA we got to explore Daz'alor and Boralus which was great. It's a shame that they exist to be used as a dungeon (Siege of Boralus) or a raid (Battle of Daz'alor) rather than a major questing area.
One thing I think you forgot to mention is that each class had unique things to find in the zones. Death Knights could find visions of Arthas telling them things like that they were still puppets of the LK. Demon Hunters could use their sight cooldown to find demons disguised as friendly NPC's in town hubs. Shaman's could find these altar things where you could summon and fight elementals, etc. These were really cool to discover and added even more to your class identity.
Normaly i dont comment a lot on youtube. But i rly have to give you probs sir. You keep your quality content up! Other guys like Hamsterwheel or Metagoblin just throw out trash content with tons of simply wrong facts and dont even care. Just produce as much videos as possible to feed the algoritm. I am glad that there are still ppl like you outside! You put in so much more effort than other "comperable" youtubers and i rly appreciate that!
I got hit by a huge nostalgia hit when you mentioned Court of Stars. I remember that being locked behind rep and when my guildies and I unlocked it we had a blast doing it!
Legion was legitimately amazing. So many of the things were obviously well crafted with love and passion. As well as just being really freaking cool, unique, and fun.
The Court of Stars is probably my favorite dungeon in WoW with how it plays into class fantasy. Heck I didn’t even know about the spectral sight thing until this video, and I had a demon hunter do this dungeon a few times. That’s so cool though.
Shoot that tank Mage Tower challenge was hard right up to the end. I remember pushing to get my Blood DK appearance before the feature went away for good and celebrating when I finally managed it after many dozens of tries.
I really miss Suramar as a current content, it was so powerful that it shifted me to horde once Nightbornes become available. I loved the story, the scenery, the quest designs, Court of Stars was my favourite dungeon and I enjoyed Nighthold as well.
Ahah as a paladin and dk player when you played thisalee crows lines my brain went to arator saying "the light smites our foes!" and koltira with his "im right by your side!"
You could tell Blizzard had to go all out with this expansion. Warlords drove so many away, and meanwhile Final Fantasy 14 had completely turned the corner and was delivering the excellent Heavensward expansion, and Elder Scrolls Online was also in a much better place after early missteps. Not since vanilla's launch was there legitimate competition in the MMO genre.
I'm still salty blizzard forced me to re-farm Booty Bay reputation if I wanted to continue the Alchemy Questline, when they actually hotfixed the Druid Artifact Quest because a random druid was hated by the Cenarion Circle and couldnt get the quest.
Do you think AQ announcement is delayed because bliz doesn't know how to handle the war effort/gate opening event on mega servers that still have layers currently?
The Mage Tower was easily one of the greatest things they added in Legion, I did it on every character and spec except shaman and rogue, since I didn't bother leveling those in Legion. I do have to say that I'd disagree by Prot Pal and Shadow being the difficult ones, for me the most difficult one was probably the Brewmaster one, being heavily undergeared, bad legendaries, pre Kruul nerf it took me ~180 tries to finally beat him, and it felt great! I did most of the challenges relatively undergeared and before Argus hit (usually iLvL 900 or below, with no optimized stats, and usually only one legendary, which often wasn't even for the spec, since it was one for another spec) Prot Pal was a Cakewalk if you had the 2p of Tomb which gave Judgement a 30% chance to reset Avenger's Shield, perma interrupting the caster and just dpsing him down, I remember it taking less than 10 tries for me. Shaodw was also not that difficult, I remember doing it on an undergeared Shadow with S2M , well maybe it would've been more difficult if done without cheesing it with S2M. Other noteworthy difficult ones are definitely the healer one and the survival hunter one (since I just leveled my hunter to do the challenges, basically learning Survival in the Mage Tower) Most of them you could cheese a bit if you knew what you were doing with your class (e.g. Agatha as Feral Druid with the Tiger's Fury reset talent when a target dies with bleeds on it, giving you ALOT of energy) or compromise lacking gear by doing really well.
I was so proud of myself when I got my Shadow Priest Mage Tower Appearance within a month of Broken Shore launch. That shit was the hardest thing I have ever done, seriously. Aff Locks had that challenge so easy with their infinite 40% slow corruption, and Boomies could just go AoE build and have permanent casting on the move, but Shadow Priests literally had to race the boss. Dot as many adds as you could for free Insanity and Souls and pray to god you killed him before he killed you. It was such a rush, and I screamed into voice comms with my friends when I finally killed him.
Just started playing again recently with my bf - we wanted to wait till shadowlands opposed to buying bfa now so we've been grinding through the husk of legion thats left over, really getting a feel for everything the expansion has left to offer. and its been so much fun, wish we got to play it in its prime
I hated Suramar more than anything blizzard had ever done up until that point. The mob density, the endless pointless quests, the power gating, all of it. Looking back on it, while I did not enjoy one moment of the Suramar questline, it was a beautiful zone with cool enemies. Also I know I am in the minority here, and that most loved Suramar, including all of my friends.
2:00 WoD had elite only zones sprinkled throughout the zone, and Tanaan Jungle's Sabertooth area was all elites. 8:00 Spriest Mage Tower was actually pretty easy. It was all about popping Surrender to Madness at the right time.
I retired at the end of WotLK because I was burnt out having played since year 2 of Vanilla. Legion brought me back because it felt the closest to WotLK. MoP and Cata nearly killed the game. BfA resulted in my 2nd, and probably, final retirement.
I feel like I'm a VERY weird person because, as much as I love Legion and I think it's the best expansion ever by far, I absolutely HATE everything about Suramar or the Withered Army Training etc.
I did arrive late to Legion, but now that I think of it, I spent a grand total of 0 minutes in Suramar ever. The rest of the zones were more than enough to get to 110.
Trying to think about what quote you think would summarize BfA the best. I think AZEROTHS WOONS is probably the go-to. Was I correct in that assumption?
I liked Legion :) I returned to WoW after I left during Pandas..... Legion felt great - however there was to much to do for me... a lot of dailies, and grinding all the resources... For me WoW was best during WotLK and Cata
There's 1 lien form each expansion. What's the cata line? and pandsland? classic: by fire be purged [and the entirety of his speech] BC: you are not prepared, merely a set back LK: I remember you... from the mountains, citizens of dalaran, you face jarraxxis, we named him dranosh [horde only] Cata: idk... I'm saaaaaailing! pandaland: um... also idk. Tong, two drinks. wod: times change, 4752 apexis crystal. not 4751 that wouldn't be enough. not 4753 that would be ridiculous legion: an illusion BFA: a turtle made it to the water, wwooooooounds Shadowlands: ah my favourite apprentice! Dragonlands: oh no! the dragons... they're landing! - Alexstraza, probably
You've covered the zone questing but forgot that Legion introduced level scaling and the ability to do the zones in whichever order you wanted... (or you did mention it, and I missed it)
I mean I guess Nazjatar was in a way like Suramar and Argus together. The only thing that disappointed me was how they rushed the story because they had to rush the expansion.
A bit of feedback wille - in these "How did Xpac change WOW?" vids, you keep referring to expansion features without explaining what they are. I think a good portion of your audience has not played the recent expansions and only plays classic. It is really hard to understand these videos as someone who has not kept up to date with the game. When you are talking it sounds like youre assuming we know what you are talking about so you don't explain it. The same thing with the Warlords of draenor vid I really struggled to follow what you were talking about. For the BFA vid do you think you could try and explain what it is you're talking about when you talk about a new feature. THanks and keep it up :)
I stopped playing retail mid-Cataclysm, after Firelands came out. I've been playing Classic lately and my curiosity got the better of me and logged into retail. I was so lost and overwhelmed I quit the game immediately. I have this itch to play retail again but after 8 or so years I don't even know where to begin.... Feels like I have so much to catch up with it's not worth it at this point. Guess I'm staying with Classic..
There's actually not much to catch up on. Current content wise there's no point rushing to get it done unless you want the cosmetics before shadowlands. Otherwise just gotta learn how the classes are now and get a quick whip through of the lore.
Just level through it like normal, there really isn't much until you hit level cap and endgame content sets in. Catch up systems are built in every patch now, so you're always pacing faster than people who did it when it's fresh. Classic is arguably harder to get in for new players than retail ever will be.
Legion still has a lot of content to offer for people, just with the Class Campaigns. Well worth doing with all classes, just for the stories. Of course, some Campaigns had better story, than others, but none were bad.
Don't you think it's good to open the game up to more players? Giving multiple forms of end game content does that, which is why I think m+ is a great addition to the game. Not everyone has the time to raid 3 days a week or play high rated pvp as those were the main end game you could do for the longest time. This is just an extra type of end game which, if you don't do m+, won't hurt you in any way. So why shouldn't they add it?
8:25 I completely disagree. That sounds like pure waste of time for me. I like Dire Maul Tribute runs or ZG runs on Classic because they are a very unique and very HARD way to earn gold - I will fail multiple times, but eventually, I will get a reward that's useful in various ways. Cosmetics... are for narcissists.
🤔 you mean to tell me you're saying that every single player who did the mahe tower for the reward is a narcissist? It was one of the most fun pieces of challenging content that legion had to offer for many and the reward was nice. Just because you don't value it doesn't make everyone else a narcissist
I get what you're saying with regards to having a reward at the end of an activity rather than just the activity being the reward, but saying cosmetics are for narcissists is clearly a weird statement to make lmao.
@@TGShunai I guess I just have a really harsh view on people focusing on their cosmetics. For me, there's no difference between collecting mounts, pets, cosmetics in-game and for example collecting dresses, jewelry etc. in real life. For me the same motor applies - people want more, they want to collect, show off and are never satisfied with what they have - they need to collect more and more.
@@raymondcoutanche4500 Well of course you are right, but also just because someone writes something on the internet doesn't make it true. I just think that kind of reward promotes narcissism and that's just my opinion.
@@ashrasmun1 You could say the same for gearing then surely. You raid because you want the gear as it makes you look like a good player? Its a really weird mindset of yours
For the BfA quote: " A TURTLE MADE IT TO THE WATER"
i've collected many things over the years, see if you can match them!
oh nooooo
Woooons
Mine is definitely the quiboar in Stormsong.
"INTRUDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THORNBREAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
The way they say it is so obnoxious.
I love it.
Most memorable lines of bfa: a turtle made it to the water. The cycle of life can be cruel.
Or, alternatively, “CHAMPION!!!!! AZEROTH NEEDS YE HELP!!”
Come on say the things, SAY THE THIIIINGGSSS
@@DeWraith117 Sounds like Fallout 4 all over again :)
I would say the most memorable line would be: "BURN IT!!!"
and that one was early in the expansion too
you got it!
Every time I think of Suramar, I am reminded how desperately this game needs end-game zones or at least small areas in the leveling zones. Maybe we need attunements back. That's a great RPG element that shouldn't be lost to time, right Ion?
Suramar was my least fav part of Legion tbh. The city itself anyway. The storyline was good.
On SL alpha right now, it seems like every zones story won't take you through the entire zone. So it looks like there will be a area in every zone where you get to continue and finish the stories through the covenants, which to me seems great
@@erikrindalsholtfredriksen4888 Having more content than required to hit level cap is a very good idea - WoD started this trend off big time, having something new to find on alts is great
I get you there, quite often endgame zones are later in an expansion tbh, like Tanaan Jungle, Timless Isle etc to name a few. I think it was really the story that made Suramar memorable and special. You could tell a lot of effort was put into it. I dont know how Blizzard could do it again, but id love to see them try
Whatever you did with the mic setup and EQ this time, it's spot-on. You found it. Keep it this. :P
Totally agreed, so much better now. Keep this setup WillE!
I really just loved legion. I couldn’t get my hands on it for a while until Argus, but every second of playing this game during this time was amazing. The only thing that I loved nearly as much was the initial zones in kul tiras. As a lore nerd I don’t think anything is going to outdo legion.
Kul tiras imo has the most boring zones ever put in the game
@@maloum1550 BFA in general has by far the most boring sterile zones in any modern expansion.
Oh boi the start of legion was just pure gold
@@maloum1550 Yet Drustvar is considered one of the best zones in terms of atmosphere, music, and enemies. BfA sucked, but the leveling zones were well done.
"I'm not sure why Blizzard hasn't done anything like Suramar *ever* again."
Dude, it's been one expansion :p
And looks like the Maw will be something similar.
MOAR SURAMAR!
@@BooguyTheAdept I havn't been following shadowlands too closely tbh, id like to give it a real first impression whenever i do get it - but if its something akin to Suramar, im all up for that
Suramar city was the first proper city to quest in, it was great. Yeah, making chunks of zones into city scapes looks great. In BFA we got to explore Daz'alor and Boralus which was great. It's a shame that they exist to be used as a dungeon (Siege of Boralus) or a raid (Battle of Daz'alor) rather than a major questing area.
@@WillEmmo You're gonna LOVE Revendreth...
To me, Suramar's story was the best I've seen Blizzard do since WotLK.
Was very good I agree
absolutely agree, very enjoyable and Thalysra really was a character well fleshed out
It's also the most beautiful zone in the entire game! Objectively speaking.
Suramar's story is the reason I got myself a nightborne character even though I main alliance. I fell in love with their story!
Easily my favorite expansion i love how you explain everything here and i just look back at the countless memories i had :)
One thing I think you forgot to mention is that each class had unique things to find in the zones. Death Knights could find visions of Arthas telling them things like that they were still puppets of the LK. Demon Hunters could use their sight cooldown to find demons disguised as friendly NPC's in town hubs. Shaman's could find these altar things where you could summon and fight elementals, etc.
These were really cool to discover and added even more to your class identity.
Normaly i dont comment a lot on youtube. But i rly have to give you probs sir. You keep your quality content up!
Other guys like Hamsterwheel or Metagoblin just throw out trash content with tons of simply wrong facts and dont even care. Just produce as much videos as possible to feed the algoritm. I am glad that there are still ppl like you outside! You put in so much more effort than other "comperable" youtubers and i rly appreciate that!
I got hit by a huge nostalgia hit when you mentioned Court of Stars. I remember that being locked behind rep and when my guildies and I unlocked it we had a blast doing it!
Legion was legitimately amazing. So many of the things were obviously well crafted with love and passion. As well as just being really freaking cool, unique, and fun.
The Court of Stars is probably my favorite dungeon in WoW with how it plays into class fantasy. Heck I didn’t even know about the spectral sight thing until this video, and I had a demon hunter do this dungeon a few times. That’s so cool though.
Chromie Scenario was very fun, but because it wasn't time gated I grinded it till I got everything it had to offer and never returned
Thanks for this video series. It’s giving me all the warm fuzzies thinking back to how excellent Legion was 🥰
Suramar does not get enough credits. SO AMAZING. Ugh. And the way to play it was leading up to Nighthold, seeing the city actively change.
Legion was awesome especially Suramar!
Shoot that tank Mage Tower challenge was hard right up to the end. I remember pushing to get my Blood DK appearance before the feature went away for good and celebrating when I finally managed it after many dozens of tries.
The AP grind was so real for mythic raiding, it was mad
Favorite expansion!
I really miss Suramar as a current content, it was so powerful that it shifted me to horde once Nightbornes become available. I loved the story, the scenery, the quest designs, Court of Stars was my favourite dungeon and I enjoyed Nighthold as well.
Ahah as a paladin and dk player when you played thisalee crows lines my brain went to arator saying "the light smites our foes!" and koltira with his "im right by your side!"
Where content is the reward itself yes dude this made me smile ear to ear hearing about the mage tower and suromar.
You could tell Blizzard had to go all out with this expansion. Warlords drove so many away, and meanwhile Final Fantasy 14 had completely turned the corner and was delivering the excellent Heavensward expansion, and Elder Scrolls Online was also in a much better place after early missteps. Not since vanilla's launch was there legitimate competition in the MMO genre.
There was Brawler’s Guild in WoD, not just since MoP, and I remember it being fairly hard even with the final patch
huh. I must of totally blanked on that, I usually really liked brawlers too
I'm still salty blizzard forced me to re-farm Booty Bay reputation if I wanted to continue the Alchemy Questline, when they actually hotfixed the Druid Artifact Quest because a random druid was hated by the Cenarion Circle and couldnt get the quest.
Do you think AQ announcement is delayed because bliz doesn't know how to handle the war effort/gate opening event on mega servers that still have layers currently?
The Mage Tower was easily one of the greatest things they added in Legion, I did it on every character and spec except shaman and rogue, since I didn't bother leveling those in Legion.
I do have to say that I'd disagree by Prot Pal and Shadow being the difficult ones, for me the most difficult one was probably the Brewmaster one, being heavily undergeared, bad legendaries, pre Kruul nerf it took me ~180 tries to finally beat him, and it felt great!
I did most of the challenges relatively undergeared and before Argus hit (usually iLvL 900 or below, with no optimized stats, and usually only one legendary, which often wasn't even for the spec, since it was one for another spec)
Prot Pal was a Cakewalk if you had the 2p of Tomb which gave Judgement a 30% chance to reset Avenger's Shield, perma interrupting the caster and just dpsing him down, I remember it taking less than 10 tries for me. Shaodw was also not that difficult, I remember doing it on an undergeared Shadow with S2M , well maybe it would've been more difficult if done without cheesing it with S2M.
Other noteworthy difficult ones are definitely the healer one and the survival hunter one (since I just leveled my hunter to do the challenges, basically learning Survival in the Mage Tower)
Most of them you could cheese a bit if you knew what you were doing with your class (e.g. Agatha as Feral Druid with the Tiger's Fury reset talent when a target dies with bleeds on it, giving you ALOT of energy) or compromise lacking gear by doing really well.
After WoD, The item level scaling system got implemented which made all my twinks useless just because it would be more equal in bgs...
faip huh, almost as if the game is supposed to be played at max level.
@@kaizoulol We have different opinions my guy, Twinking was one of the most fun things to do in every expansion up to legion. Really expensive too
I was so proud of myself when I got my Shadow Priest Mage Tower Appearance within a month of Broken Shore launch. That shit was the hardest thing I have ever done, seriously. Aff Locks had that challenge so easy with their infinite 40% slow corruption, and Boomies could just go AoE build and have permanent casting on the move, but Shadow Priests literally had to race the boss. Dot as many adds as you could for free Insanity and Souls and pray to god you killed him before he killed you. It was such a rush, and I screamed into voice comms with my friends when I finally killed him.
I miss Legion 😭
same :(
Just started playing again recently with my bf - we wanted to wait till shadowlands opposed to buying bfa now so we've been grinding through the husk of legion thats left over, really getting a feel for everything the expansion has left to offer. and its been so much fun, wish we got to play it in its prime
I hated Suramar more than anything blizzard had ever done up until that point. The mob density, the endless pointless quests, the power gating, all of it. Looking back on it, while I did not enjoy one moment of the Suramar questline, it was a beautiful zone with cool enemies. Also I know I am in the minority here, and that most loved Suramar, including all of my friends.
2:43
A TURTLE MADE IT TO THE WATER
2:00 WoD had elite only zones sprinkled throughout the zone, and Tanaan Jungle's Sabertooth area was all elites.
8:00 Spriest Mage Tower was actually pretty easy. It was all about popping Surrender to Madness at the right time.
I retired at the end of WotLK because I was burnt out having played since year 2 of Vanilla. Legion brought me back because it felt the closest to WotLK. MoP and Cata nearly killed the game. BfA resulted in my 2nd, and probably, final retirement.
I feel like I'm a VERY weird person because, as much as I love Legion and I think it's the best expansion ever by far, I absolutely HATE everything about Suramar or the Withered Army Training etc.
I did arrive late to Legion, but now that I think of it, I spent a grand total of 0 minutes in Suramar ever. The rest of the zones were more than enough to get to 110.
That’s because suramar was a max level zone
A turtle has made it to the water!!!!
great video man
Trying to think about what quote you think would summarize BfA the best.
I think AZEROTHS WOONS is probably the go-to. Was I correct in that assumption?
I was gonna say "A TURTLE MADE IT TO THE WATER!"
I liked Legion :) I returned to WoW after I left during Pandas..... Legion felt great - however there was to much to do for me... a lot of dailies, and grinding all the resources... For me WoW was best during WotLK and Cata
legion also started the grinding meta which is still ongoing in bfa and annoying af
I'm debating coming back now or when Shadowlands drops. I really want to come back but also want that new, sweet leveling system.
i loved suramar so much
There's 1 lien form each expansion.
What's the cata line? and pandsland?
classic: by fire be purged [and the entirety of his speech]
BC: you are not prepared, merely a set back
LK: I remember you... from the mountains, citizens of dalaran, you face jarraxxis, we named him dranosh [horde only]
Cata: idk... I'm saaaaaailing!
pandaland: um... also idk. Tong, two drinks.
wod: times change, 4752 apexis crystal. not 4751 that wouldn't be enough. not 4753 that would be ridiculous
legion: an illusion
BFA: a turtle made it to the water, wwooooooounds
Shadowlands: ah my favourite apprentice!
Dragonlands: oh no! the dragons... they're landing! - Alexstraza, probably
Another turtle has made it to the water!!
I had no idea until now that you could use spectral sight to find the demon informant, and i played DH a lot... ffs...
You've covered the zone questing but forgot that Legion introduced level scaling and the ability to do the zones in whichever order you wanted... (or you did mention it, and I missed it)
Waycrest manner has a lot of profession specific interactions.
Im pretty sure they split professions (and removed first aid) in bfa prepatch.
Legoin is the best wow expansion ever made in my opinion
I mean I guess Nazjatar was in a way like Suramar and Argus together. The only thing that disappointed me was how they rushed the story because they had to rush the expansion.
Something has spooked one of de brutosaurs
Took me so many runs to get the llothien prowler out of the withered army training. 10/10
An illusion! What are you hiding! :D
A bit of feedback wille - in these "How did Xpac change WOW?" vids, you keep referring to expansion features without explaining what they are. I think a good portion of your audience has not played the recent expansions and only plays classic. It is really hard to understand these videos as someone who has not kept up to date with the game. When you are talking it sounds like youre assuming we know what you are talking about so you don't explain it.
The same thing with the Warlords of draenor vid I really struggled to follow what you were talking about.
For the BFA vid do you think you could try and explain what it is you're talking about when you talk about a new feature. THanks and keep it up :)
When you went to suramar early in the expansion,your head was on a swivel
CHAAAMMMMPPPPPIIIOOOOONNNN! Feckin Magni. Real tired of that man lol.
something something YA MUST HEAL AZEROTHS WOONDS CHAMPION!!!!
WillE No doubt you’re gonna bring that up on Battle For Azeroth video 😂
legion didnt release with suramar
I stopped playing retail mid-Cataclysm, after Firelands came out. I've been playing Classic lately and my curiosity got the better of me and logged into retail. I was so lost and overwhelmed I quit the game immediately. I have this itch to play retail again but after 8 or so years I don't even know where to begin.... Feels like I have so much to catch up with it's not worth it at this point. Guess I'm staying with Classic..
Create a new character and level it peacefully
There's actually not much to catch up on. Current content wise there's no point rushing to get it done unless you want the cosmetics before shadowlands. Otherwise just gotta learn how the classes are now and get a quick whip through of the lore.
Just level through it like normal, there really isn't much until you hit level cap and endgame content sets in. Catch up systems are built in every patch now, so you're always pacing faster than people who did it when it's fresh. Classic is arguably harder to get in for new players than retail ever will be.
Legion still has a lot of content to offer for people, just with the Class Campaigns. Well worth doing with all classes, just for the stories. Of course, some Campaigns had better story, than others, but none were bad.
man if i could relive legion again i would. But it seems no good private servers are avalbile
Soundtrack? Amazing.
Zones? Beautiful.
Content? Plentiful.
Hotel? Trivago.
*WillE video pops up on my timeline*
*SLAPS MY PHONE TO PLAY*
Another turtle made it to the water!
World Quests and Mythic+ are just more influence from the Diablo team, it's just not WoW - this is supposed to be an RPG not an Action Adventure.
Don't you think it's good to open the game up to more players? Giving multiple forms of end game content does that, which is why I think m+ is a great addition to the game. Not everyone has the time to raid 3 days a week or play high rated pvp as those were the main end game you could do for the longest time. This is just an extra type of end game which, if you don't do m+, won't hurt you in any way. So why shouldn't they add it?
Last time I was this early, blizzard made good expansions.
A tUrTlE mAdE iT tO tHe WaTeR
everytime mythic+ mentioned .. get me mad and sad. i didn't like the gearing system from there and how made Raiding less valuable
Why? I personally love m+. It gives people a variety of options to gear up and enjoy the game. How is that a bad thing?
@@TGShunai Because people want to be special snowflakes and care too much about how others get geared.
As someone who didn't play during Legion, I am legitimately upset I cannot experience the Mage Tower stuff anymore...
Sup
8:25 I completely disagree. That sounds like pure waste of time for me. I like Dire Maul Tribute runs or ZG runs on Classic because they are a very unique and very HARD way to earn gold - I will fail multiple times, but eventually, I will get a reward that's useful in various ways. Cosmetics... are for narcissists.
🤔 you mean to tell me you're saying that every single player who did the mahe tower for the reward is a narcissist? It was one of the most fun pieces of challenging content that legion had to offer for many and the reward was nice. Just because you don't value it doesn't make everyone else a narcissist
I get what you're saying with regards to having a reward at the end of an activity rather than just the activity being the reward, but saying cosmetics are for narcissists is clearly a weird statement to make lmao.
@@TGShunai I guess I just have a really harsh view on people focusing on their cosmetics. For me, there's no difference between collecting mounts, pets, cosmetics in-game and for example collecting dresses, jewelry etc. in real life. For me the same motor applies - people want more, they want to collect, show off and are never satisfied with what they have - they need to collect more and more.
@@raymondcoutanche4500 Well of course you are right, but also just because someone writes something on the internet doesn't make it true. I just think that kind of reward promotes narcissism and that's just my opinion.
@@ashrasmun1 You could say the same for gearing then surely. You raid because you want the gear as it makes you look like a good player? Its a really weird mindset of yours
Gearing was terrible in and ruined legion. It was all RNG based
any Dota fans here ?
The most bland expansion ever with the most crappy pvp
Running out of content..