FG never broke at knot, SG did break at knot. Thanks for your test but I’ll stick with the FG - it’s pretty easy to tie once you get the hang of it, especially with heavier lines.
Thanks for doing this test. It’s entirely consistent with my own results. It shows that both knots, if properly tied, are reliable. I’ve been using the FG for nearly 25 years so won’t be changing but credit to whoever created the SC. It’s very creative.
Thanks for the video, I seen a similar test between these two knots and it ended up 50/50, the sc knot is plenty strong enough and easier to tie for me.
Your final test was the test I always use... Two competing knots on the same line... Which one breaks first? I'll be doing a few FGs vs SCs for myself. Thanks.
hey the SC is not bad, pretty close to 100% range. I've gotten quick at making FG knots over the years which I set it up prior fishing, but this the SC is a great alternative on when you're in a rush on a break off. I'll give it a shot.
Some people are commenting the problem was the braid broke below rating even though braid lines are known to be stronger than their rating, not in my testing. I have tested Diamond Braid, Yo-Zuri, JBraid, Hercules, Kastking, and Power Pro use 30 lb line to test. My test was to simply lift a bucket of lead, adding 1 pound each time the line passes. Used 4 different knots in the testing. NONE of these braid lines, 30 lb test line, was able to lift a 23 lb bucket of lead no matter what knot was used, they all failed. Just my results testing various lines.
I second your observations Bob. You hear all these claims and there are even some videos out there showing braids exceeding the rated strength but I haven't been able to do that. The worst I found was Gosen 16 strand at seventy bucks for 160 yards, I got a spool of the "23 pound" and the "41 pound" tests to see if it was all that spectacular. It is except for the break strength which is half or slightly less than the spool says. Of course when you get snagged up even thirty pound braid always feels like hundred pound.
Hello from France 🙂 Both are excellent, thank you for these tests 👍 My preference is the FG because it can be done very short (10 wraps) on any wire. A good compromise is 15 turns for the FG, 20 turns for the most superstitious... 30 turns and more is really useless, the FG is relaxed at the back, so this part is unusable, useless waste of time
Both knots held until braid broke. Interesting point is that the braid broke under the stated poundage? I would have thought there would be some extra leeway there? Anyway good to know when setting your drag, thanks for the testing.
I think its depends on how to tie each knot. maybe you are doing FG better than SC while someone else doing SC better than FG . for me SC is the strongest knot.
I prefer SC if the mono/fluoro is thick enough to dig in the braid. You will slip the leader or break the leader while tightening the SC on small diameter like 0,30 and below in my experience. uni to uni then in that case. I don’t like the look of the FG knot, so I try to avoid it. Think most people don’t care about the look though.
truth is once you have a single half hitch knot on a braid it will greatly reduce its strength due to abrasion. unless you can test the braid without making any sort of knots. most of my experience during fishing using a baitcaster is that when the braid line digs into the spool, thats where the abrasion happens and the line snaps. so its really never 100% 30lbs strength once you have a knot on it.
Both knots look to be super strong knots, hey 👌 I was going to say that half the time it was the line itself and not the knot that failed but now I’m thinking 🤔 ‘Actually, the knots themselves held 💯 of the time’ in that they didn’t come away from the mono. Or would you call it a knot fail when I breaks right up close to the knot? Yeah, maybe it is?!? 🤔 Still, that’s good to see 😎 Thanks for sharing 😁👍👍
i just upgrade my equipements and was study every knot and seen many tests, this is the first test where the sc knot dosent pass 100% weight of the line, so there is something wrong ;) Best regards!
If iam throwing big stick baits and poppers at $50 + a lure i dont want my knots to be failing specially not at a small 12+kg Itll get expensive really quick I reckon its where ya mono or fluro meets ya braid mate try burn the top of ya mono (leave that lava ball) looks like the mono is cutting the braid where ya snip the tail off Ive lost so many fish with brsid being under strain and have the smallest thing touch ya braid it snaps just a thought mate cheers 👍🏽
Remember this is only test and used 30lb braid. 30lb braid for 14-15kg breaking strength is pretty normal and good. Im not gonna use for big lures for 30lb braid. I also use otl stickbait which is $160 worth lure no problem at all. I do normally use lighter if go with heavy line setup do not worry 😜
I didn't see any knots fail in this video. What you are testing is the consistency of the braid manufacturing process. Both knots held the fluoro and neither of them broke. Some people may say your second SC test broke at the knot. It's clear it broke above the knot, not at the knot. Since you are really just testing the line consistency, it is just as likely to break in the middle as it is near the ends. I don't use 80lb fluoro, I am a fresh water fisherman and I use 6-8lb fluoro attached to 20lb braid. In those tests, I expect to see the fluoro break but not be pulled or cut in the knot. SC is hands down the easiest to tie and works just as well.
if you comparing 2 knots, then your main objection is to see which one will slip or break AT THE KNOT ITSELF. Taking all these measurements and stuff are irrelevant . you are not testing the line strength you testing the KNOT... and again the FG proven to be the BEST knot. (yes time consuming but everything has a downside) at least you know you will never lose a lure or a fish due to weak knot
OK the only thing you proved is that you need to buy a better brand of braided line. Neither of the tests broke at the knot ... in each test the line itself broke, and it broke under its pound rating. Braided lines are usually known for testing waaaaay more than their listed breaking strength, so I don't know what brand of line you're using, but you definitely need to try something different -- just my opinion.
I will go with the fg knot. Also it depends on who and how they are tied. Your knots look sloppy to me. I never use a knot that doesn't look and feel right.
Thanks for the like. Back story that all fisher people should do. I used to be in an IGFA Club. I fished with various line classes but the one line class that separated the good and not so good knots was the 1kg class. I spent a long time testing each knot to see what really works. I started with always a bimminy double followed by an albright knot to leader, but soon modified the albright after testing. Now using high quality gear some knots don't go through the guides well,. The FG has been a game changer and I suggest everyone learns to tie it. I have an easy way if anyone is struggling with it. No drama on putting 25kg plus drag on 80lb braid, it will never let you down.
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FG never broke at knot, SG did break at knot. Thanks for your test but I’ll stick with the FG - it’s pretty easy to tie once you get the hang of it, especially with heavier lines.
Thanks for watching and your comment. Cheers.
Agree, ill stick with the FG knot. I even make it with 10lb braid to 8lb mono and has never failed me
Thank you Captain 👍
Thanks for doing this test. It’s entirely consistent with my own results. It shows that both knots, if properly tied, are reliable. I’ve been using the FG for nearly 25 years so won’t be changing but credit to whoever created the SC. It’s very creative.
Thanks for the video, I seen a similar test between these two knots and it ended up 50/50, the sc knot is plenty strong enough and easier to tie for me.
Your final test was the test I always use... Two competing knots on the same line... Which one breaks first? I'll be doing a few FGs vs SCs for myself. Thanks.
Thanks for your comment! Yeah it was fg knot is won that last test.
FG never broke at the knot. Test says more about variability of poor quality braid than the knots.
hey the SC is not bad, pretty close to 100% range. I've gotten quick at making FG knots over the years which I set it up prior fishing, but this the SC is a great alternative on when you're in a rush on a break off. I'll give it a shot.
I like what you said. Cheers
SC knot is very practical and strong enough for the fishing most people do.
Great man! Best test in YT
Some people are commenting the problem was the braid broke below rating even though braid lines are known to be stronger than their rating, not in my testing. I have tested Diamond Braid, Yo-Zuri, JBraid, Hercules, Kastking, and Power Pro use 30 lb line to test. My test was to simply lift a bucket of lead, adding 1 pound each time the line passes. Used 4 different knots in the testing. NONE of these braid lines, 30 lb test line, was able to lift a 23 lb bucket of lead no matter what knot was used, they all failed. Just my results testing various lines.
Saw your video before, love it, liked it, and even share it ! Thanks !!!
I second your observations Bob. You hear all these claims and there are even some videos out there showing braids exceeding the rated strength but I haven't been able to do that. The worst I found was Gosen 16 strand at seventy bucks for 160 yards, I got a spool of the "23 pound" and the "41 pound" tests to see if it was all that spectacular. It is except for the break strength which is half or slightly less than the spool says. Of course when you get snagged up even thirty pound braid always feels like hundred pound.
They both were as strong/stronger than the line.👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks for watching and your comment. Cheers
Thanks video.
Thank you 🙏
Could you remove the video suggestions at the end so we can read your conclusions? This is on a iPhone
Can you let us know what brand of braid that is so we can avoid it?
Shimano ocea braid. Don’t buy it.
My thoughts exactly.
What PE was the braid?
Hello from France 🙂
Both are excellent, thank you for these tests 👍
My preference is the FG because it can be done very short (10 wraps) on any wire.
A good compromise is 15 turns for the FG, 20 turns for the most superstitious... 30 turns and more is really useless, the FG is relaxed at the back, so this part is unusable, useless waste of time
Both knots held until braid broke. Interesting point is that the braid broke under the stated poundage? I would have thought there would be some extra leeway there? Anyway good to know when setting your drag, thanks for the testing.
Yeah it’s good thing still knot held up. Probably if I use better quality of braid maybe better results. Thanks for watching
What is actual breaking strength of mainline and leader before knots used?
Can you test saltiga 12braid strength..?
Yes i can do that. I reckon they are top braid.
@@captainsalty7777 cant wait to see your review and results.. how strong saltiga 12braid than other braid.. real or bullshit.. 😅😅😅
@@captainsalty7777 haha this comment aged well due to your new video 😂
What braid will you be moving onto next?
🤣🤣 not sure yet. Im looking at it atm. Any idea?
Hey can you test braid line call seahawk sol x8 and mayeep line...
Nice tutorial video Master. Keep sharing
Thank you 🙏
Is the braid igfa rated? As non igfa should break well past its stated strength. And obviously igfa should break at or just before its stated strength
Have you tried the modified slim beauty against them ?.
Nah is that good?
I can take a 90 lb murray cod with it. Give it a crack.
Nice. Yeah I’ll give it a go.
I think its depends on how to tie each knot. maybe you are doing FG better than SC while someone else doing SC better than FG . for me SC is the strongest knot.
I prefer SC if the mono/fluoro is thick enough to dig in the braid. You will slip the leader or break the leader while tightening the SC on small diameter like 0,30 and below in my experience. uni to uni then in that case. I don’t like the look of the FG knot, so I try to avoid it. Think most people don’t care about the look though.
line breaks first with most knot if tied correctly
truth is once you have a single half hitch knot on a braid it will greatly reduce its strength due to abrasion. unless you can test the braid without making any sort of knots. most of my experience during fishing using a baitcaster is that when the braid line digs into the spool, thats where the abrasion happens and the line snaps. so its really never 100% 30lbs strength once you have a knot on it.
Good test. Now I know I must still use FG knot. Thanks, Captain! :-)
Thanks for watching and your comment! Cheers
Both knots look to be super strong knots, hey 👌 I was going to say that half the time it was the line itself and not the knot that failed but now I’m thinking 🤔 ‘Actually, the knots themselves held 💯 of the time’ in that they didn’t come away from the mono. Or would you call it a knot fail when I breaks right up close to the knot? Yeah, maybe it is?!? 🤔
Still, that’s good to see 😎 Thanks for sharing 😁👍👍
Yeah they are good strong knots! Was that time knot failed, my bad. Thanks for watching and comment. Cheers
Its very strong
I prefer the FG knot but looks like neither knot failed. It was the line that broke.
Excellent Vid. However, a Summary Table would have been great!!
It's the braid that broke. The knots were solid hey
I like what you saying! Cheers
i just upgrade my equipements and was study every knot and seen many tests, this is the first test where the sc knot dosent pass 100% weight of the line, so there is something wrong ;)
Best regards!
If iam throwing big stick baits and poppers at $50 + a lure i dont want my knots to be failing specially not at a small 12+kg
Itll get expensive really quick
I reckon its where ya mono or fluro meets ya braid mate try burn the top of ya mono (leave that lava ball) looks like the mono is cutting the braid where ya snip the tail off
Ive lost so many fish with brsid being under strain and have the smallest thing touch ya braid it snaps just a thought mate cheers 👍🏽
Remember this is only test and used 30lb braid. 30lb braid for 14-15kg breaking strength is pretty normal and good. Im not gonna use for big lures for 30lb braid. I also use otl stickbait which is $160 worth lure no problem at all. I do normally use lighter if go with heavy line setup do not worry 😜
You wont use 12 kg of drag on your reel anyways especially with a pricey lure
@@miamiwax5504 u havnt caught huge fish then bro (marlin , sail fish , dog tooth tuna , big yellow fin tuna) ect
@@Oi_AZZAH why would u use 30 lb braid going after fish like that?
@@miamiwax5504 for the sport mate blue water line class comps 👍🏾
It seems like your knot is not your problem, it’s the braided line.
No rompieron por el nudo, falló el trenzado, el test sólo confirma que el trenzado no tiene la misma resistencia en toda la bobina.
braided line problem.
When I’m regularly boat flipping 20-30# bass, I will worry about which is stronger. Until then, quick and easy. Ask my wife!
I didn't see any knots fail in this video. What you are testing is the consistency of the braid manufacturing process. Both knots held the fluoro and neither of them broke. Some people may say your second SC test broke at the knot. It's clear it broke above the knot, not at the knot. Since you are really just testing the line consistency, it is just as likely to break in the middle as it is near the ends.
I don't use 80lb fluoro, I am a fresh water fisherman and I use 6-8lb fluoro attached to 20lb braid. In those tests, I expect to see the fluoro break but not be pulled or cut in the knot.
SC is hands down the easiest to tie and works just as well.
your braided line is from china..lol
they're both strong. Just the braided line loosing its toughness
You’re correct! Thanks for comment 🙏
@@captainsalty7777 I have tried both, and they are perfect! most of my lost catch were from the braided line.
Fg knot still...👍👍👍
Looks like your braid is pretty inconsistent. Both knots held up.
Looking at buy new braid. Shimano ocea braid is shittt braid...
if you comparing 2 knots, then your main objection is to see which one will slip or break AT THE KNOT ITSELF.
Taking all these measurements and stuff are irrelevant . you are not testing the line strength you testing the KNOT... and again the FG proven to be the BEST knot. (yes time consuming but everything has a downside) at least you know you will never lose a lure or a fish due to weak knot
OK the only thing you proved is that you need to buy a better brand of braided line. Neither of the tests broke at the knot ... in each test the line itself broke, and it broke under its pound rating. Braided lines are usually known for testing waaaaay more than their listed breaking strength, so I don't know what brand of line you're using, but you definitely need to try something different -- just my opinion.
You’re correct. Im looking at buy new braid atm. Any recommendations?
The fg knot never broke the knot connected to your scale broke
Inconclusive. Need to test with 60# braid.
All i saw was broken braid didn't see actual knot breakage or failure
Your fg knots look like they have too many wraps. All you need is 20 to 24. More than that actually makes it less effective.
never have i broke at the knot with the FG with any line.
Thats not broken haha the line give up
I will go with the fg knot.
Also it depends on who and how they are tied.
Your knots look sloppy to me. I never use a knot that doesn't look and feel right.
Thanks for the like.
Back story that all fisher people should do.
I used to be in an IGFA Club.
I fished with various line classes but the one line class that separated the good and not so good knots was the 1kg class.
I spent a long time testing each knot to see what really works.
I started with always a bimminy double followed by an albright knot to leader, but soon modified the albright after testing.
Now using high quality gear some knots don't go through the guides well,.
The FG has been a game changer and I suggest everyone learns to tie it.
I have an easy way if anyone is struggling with it.
No drama on putting 25kg plus drag on 80lb braid, it will never let you down.
FG knot is better, than SC knot.