Die natürlichste Taubenrasse, präsentiert mit deiner, immer ausgefeilteren Videotechnik, nein Videokunst! Vielen Dank Jürgen und herzliche Gratulation zu diesem Werk.
Very nice movie. Russia likes the host, the pigeons are good, I really liked it! I used to hold such a bird, pigeons of this breed have always pleased with their temperament, expressiveness and vivid simplicity of life.
Amazing different from the button head Vienna or booty .. I have a dilute of Vienna they are called vieshan blacks the gods of the sky hawk evasive... love these videos
Nein, die Tauben des oben genannten Halters kenne ich nicht. Der Halter hat oft seine Rasse bzw. seinen Stamm gewechselt, daher weiß ich auch gar nicht, was er derzeit auf seinen Schlägen sitzen hat.
Normally Vienna HF fly only out of their loft. I released them only for the video. The finding-home-distance depends on the birds. I sold a cock and he find his way back to me over 60 kilometers. In general I would say Viennas find safely back home over a distance between 5-10 km.
Yes, they are all Vienna Highflyers. In earlier times they were bred in many colours. Today the main colour is white stork in several differences. All these former colours are listed in old standards, for exapmle the standard from 1928.
The flying time depends on the weather conditions and the feeding preparation. Unlike the many other high-flying pigeon breeds worldwide, the breeding aims of the Vienna Highflyers are the altitude (sometimes they fly up into invisible heights) and the fast, agile flying style. Similar to a sprinter, who doesn´t run a marathon, a Vienna Highflyer should not fly for many hours. They don´t fear peregrine falcons because of their reactive, fast and agile flying style. I´m not interested in pigeons, which fly 10 hours, but which could be easily picked like ripe fruits from the air by the peregrines. The charm of my breed lies in the flight choreography and not in the length of their flight. They are not Tipplers. Personally, it is boring for me to watch pigeons that fly 8 hours and more in a circle. I have no time to look 8 hours and more in the sky. I hate long time flyers because I have many other things to do. I need action in the air and love it to watch them dancing in the air. So remember the FLYING TIME is totally UNIMPORTANT in this breed. The aim is altitude, speed, style and as few falcon losses as possible. Therefore the average time is something between one and two hours. If I prepare them properly, they fly up to five hours but without speed.
@@CuMulusDancerZ Hi.Thanks very much for your reply .Yes your right about tipplers and long hours on the wing l did it for years and lost heaps of them to the perigrine it is one of the reasons l gave up flying them .l had Budapest for 15 years but life got to busy and gave them to my mate.👍🕊
Hi, it depends on the loft size. If you have enough space for many breeding pairs, you can create a good F1 flying kit by cross breeding, but this F1 birds are more or less worthless for breeding. Many racing pigeon breeders use the method of cross breeding. In the case of High Flying Pigeons is the common way is line breeding. Personally I also prefer line breeding. I have my own strain and pair best to best.
@@CuMulusDancerZ what about brother sister pair what is the effects good or bed but in india and Pakistan we people don't use brother sister Tewwis pair what is your opinion?
@@thelionheartzr1341 I also do not pair brother to sister. This prevents inbreeding depressions. But I often pair half brother to half sister. The most importand in the case of narrow breeding is, that you select your breeding pairs very carefully and pay attantion for vitality. If you choose the wrong breeding pairs you will ruin your whole strain within a few years.
@@thelionheartzr1341 Sorry, for answering such a question I have to write a book. This topic is to comlicated for a YT comment and can not be explained in a few words.
There is no general statement about this. Regardless of the breed, there are families who fly faster or slower. Viennese used to be faster in earlier times. Today most Viennese are crossed with Budapesters. With that their speed decreased. My own Viennese HF you can see in the videos are from an old pure strain and still show the speed that was common in the past.
@@CuMulusDancerZ - thanks my friend. Great birds and good to know that you keeping that strain alive. It would be great to have something that has the speed of racers and have highflying abilities too.
I feed them with a high-calorie, high-protein and low-fiber blend. Due to their power-exhausting flying style, these pigeons need a different mix than classic high-flyers, which fly more slowly and energy-saving.
I am happy to see your reply. Yes your are right it is complicated and expensive. I can bear expensive but it is procedure is length. Any way If need your guide to better fly of pegion may i contact with you.
What a wonderful experience to watch this film. Many thanks for it! After having tried many breeds of pigeons, I will soon get a pair of Viennese Highflyers in white for breeding and I am already looking forward to it very much. Since I live in the middle of the city in Germany, Berlin, and I can only keep very few pigeons at all times, I have a particularly close relationship with my animals: ruclips.net/video/f1QCBdNeqqg/видео.html
Thanks for your nice comment. I watched your video. Please keep in mind that Vienna high flyers are extremely shy and never become as tame as Budapest high flyers. For your purposes, I would definitely recommend calmer pigeon breeds - unless, you want to get the Nobel Prize in Animal Training.
@@CuMulusDancerZ Thanks, I really want to become the "Pigeon Whisperer" of Berlin! And white doves near the corrupt German government are a good sign for peace, especially since we have a bankruptcy vulture in our national coat of arms. Well, I also had totally tame tipplers, but they stayed with me mostly 12 hours in the air and that was not so well timed. And when a thunderstorm came up they flew further and beyond. So I sometimes got one again, who found nice people 50 km away and informed me. What attracts me to the Viennese besides the beautiful colour is their nervousness. In my residential area there are 3 hawk nests with annual offspring, so I need pigeons that fly well and fast and don't stay away so long. It is a pity that I can keep 9 pigeons at the most and I don't let the breeding pair fly out or I will always start over again. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Ok, then I wish you much success. In terms of hawks, the Vienna HF is one of the safest pigeon breeds I know and surely a good idea. What many people do not know: Berlin is not only the German capital, but also the city in which most hawks are breeding. The main problem will be the nervousness of the VHF. I would try hand-raised pigeons.
@@CuMulusDancerZ But my young pigeons are always raised by myself! ruclips.net/video/J6VUiILHUSU/видео.html With that you get them well tamed and from the air they come back on my hand signal. I already had females, which were only inseminated by the pigeon on my hand :-) Birds of prey I find also very beautiful and especially the falcons, the problem in Berlin is only that the Olive-Greens (war party) always buy new ones from breeders and then abandon them here! The griffins are then not afraid of humans at all and with me they sometimes even fly into the kitchen window, and the sparrowhawk was already sitting on the cage with my best canary cock! www.flickr.com/photos/priapos/16728817917/in/album-72157644873688077/ Tomorrow I will get my Wiener and 2 eggs with it. Hopefully everything goes well, I am very curious. I have already watched your films several times now, this increases the anticipation even more. And once again a big praise: Even underwater skimming, someone has to do that first.
Unfortunately I don´t know any Vienna breeders in the United States :-(. I have heard of Vienna Tumblers in the USA, but these birds are only breed for exhibition and not for flying.
@@CuMulusDancerZ The Budapest Highflyer is very common here. Are the Budapest and Vienna Highflyers the same breed? Or, are they closely related? They do resemble one another.
Hello Joe. They are not the same breed but Budapest HF and Vienna HF are closely related. The Vienna HF are one of the main the ancestors of the Budapest HF. Therefore the Vienna is the older breed and the Budapest the newer. The founders of the Budapest were the Poeltl brothers. Budapest HF fly calm and for some hours. They are not so Peregine resistant like the real Viennas. Original Vienna HF (the birds in my video) fly faster and more stylisch but not so long as a result of their faster fly. Concerning their hight there is no difference between this both breeds. BUT within this both breeds there are different breeding lines. Therefore, the differences sometimes blur.
@@CuMulusDancerZ Thank you for your informative response. Your Vienna HF are as beautiful as your video. I will continue to search for birds with the looks and flying qualities your birds have.
Die natürlichste Taubenrasse, präsentiert mit deiner, immer ausgefeilteren Videotechnik, nein Videokunst! Vielen Dank Jürgen und herzliche Gratulation zu diesem Werk.
Ganz toller Film über deine Wiener Hochflieger. Einfach klasse. Super gestaltet.
Ein wirklich gut gelungenes Video, schöne musikauswahl und natürlich schöne tauben.
Wünsche ein gutes flug- und zuchtjahr.
Your film production is brillant..👍🕊
Very nice movie. Russia likes the host, the pigeons are good, I really liked it! I used to hold such a bird, pigeons of this breed have always pleased with their temperament, expressiveness and vivid simplicity of life.
Pigeons are a breed that has evolved over millions of years
Sehr schönes Video👍
Gute Kamerapositionen👍
Super 👏👏
Chapeau! Wunderbare Tiere...ein wunderschönes Video! Danke!
Que video tan detallado y excelente, muchas gracias!!
Very nice. Can I visit you if I am visiting Germany in November this year
Wonderful.
Very beautiful video! Congratulations!
Very nice pigeons!
Very good nice Pigeon very nice collection
Inspirational!
7:30 do you have a source for the music playing here?
Sehr schönes video sehr schöne tauben👍👍
Super video as usually :-)
Super 👍 💪
Very beautiful pigeons 🙌
Хорошие птица спосиба
❤️❤️❤️ I wish I could buy like this kind. Wonderful birds
Amazing different from the button head Vienna or booty .. I have a dilute of Vienna they are called vieshan blacks the gods of the sky hawk evasive... love these videos
Yes, I have heard of them. A hawk and falcon resistand breed. Kind regards.
Прекрасно летают veiner hohflugtauben! Но их желательно содержать большой группой.Эффект будет больший!
Это верно, вы правы. К сожалению, у меня нет столько места.
Amazing work
its a supper breed
Супер!!!
SUPER, wie immer perfekt. GUT FLUG.
Lovely 😍
beutiful birds any of your stock in newzealand/?
Thank you Paulie. Personally I have never heard of Vienna High Flyers in Newzealand. So I´m not sure.
love you this
Wow
Tauben von H. Ostwald aus Hohenhameln, kennen Sie diese Tauben?
Nein, die Tauben des oben genannten Halters kenne ich nicht. Der Halter hat oft seine Rasse bzw. seinen Stamm gewechselt, daher weiß ich auch gar nicht, was er derzeit auf seinen Schlägen sitzen hat.
@@CuMulusDancerZ Danke!
GOOD VIDEO ANIMATION CUMULUS.
How far you release them from the loft do they find there way home
Normally Vienna HF fly only out of their loft. I released them only for the video. The finding-home-distance depends on the birds. I sold a cock and he find his way back to me over 60 kilometers. In general I would say Viennas find safely back home over a distance between 5-10 km.
I see You got a bluebarr and bluecheck are they vienna too?
Yes, they are all Vienna Highflyers. In earlier times they were bred in many colours. Today the main colour is white stork in several differences. All these former colours are listed in old standards, for exapmle the standard from 1928.
von Video zu Video wirst du besser Jürgen, Glückwunsch
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Nice. At what age do they start tilting?
Approx. with 3 month of age i.e. after 1,5 - 2 month of fly training.
@@CuMulusDancerZ thanks I have the same Karl k and they are flying like Budapest about 2 months old no tilting. What is the best feed for flyers?
I feed a pigeon mix with a high protein content. The more barly you feed they slower they fly.
@@CuMulusDancerZ thank you for your reply
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Sehr schöne Video gemacht.die sind meine Liebling Tauben .aber
Hi. What times do you average when flying..
The flying time depends on the weather conditions and the feeding preparation. Unlike the many other high-flying pigeon breeds worldwide, the breeding aims of the Vienna Highflyers are the altitude (sometimes they fly up into invisible heights) and the fast, agile flying style. Similar to a sprinter, who doesn´t run a marathon, a Vienna Highflyer should not fly for many hours. They don´t fear peregrine falcons because of their reactive, fast and agile flying style. I´m not interested in pigeons, which fly 10 hours, but which could be easily picked like ripe fruits from the air by the peregrines. The charm of my breed lies in the flight choreography and not in the length of their flight. They are not Tipplers. Personally, it is boring for me to watch pigeons that fly 8 hours and more in a circle. I have no time to look 8 hours and more in the sky. I hate long time flyers because I have many other things to do. I need action in the air and love it to watch them dancing in the air. So remember the FLYING TIME is totally UNIMPORTANT in this breed. The aim is altitude, speed, style and as few falcon losses as possible. Therefore the average time is something between one and two hours. If I prepare them properly, they fly up to five hours but without speed.
@@CuMulusDancerZ
Hi.Thanks very much for your reply .Yes your right about tipplers and long hours on the wing l did it for years and lost heaps of them to the perigrine it is one of the reasons l gave up flying them .l had Budapest for 15 years but life got to busy and gave them to my mate.👍🕊
CuMulus DancerZ me to i don't this long flying 12 and 16 hours
What you think cross breeding or line breeding what is best???
Hi, it depends on the loft size. If you have enough space for many breeding pairs, you can create a good F1 flying kit by cross breeding, but this F1 birds are more or less worthless for breeding. Many racing pigeon breeders use the method of cross breeding.
In the case of High Flying Pigeons is the common way is line breeding. Personally I also prefer line breeding. I have my own strain and pair best to best.
@@CuMulusDancerZ what about brother sister pair what is the effects good or bed but in india and Pakistan we people don't use brother sister Tewwis pair what is your opinion?
@@thelionheartzr1341 I also do not pair brother to sister. This prevents inbreeding depressions. But I often pair half brother to half sister. The most importand in the case of narrow breeding is, that you select your breeding pairs very carefully and pay attantion for vitality. If you choose the wrong breeding pairs you will ruin your whole strain within a few years.
@@CuMulusDancerZ which main point you can select in a pair for the best breeding pair eys wings bones what is the base of selection??
@@thelionheartzr1341 Sorry, for answering such a question I have to write a book. This topic is to comlicated for a YT comment and can not be explained in a few words.
what kind of pigeon and what thay cost for apair
The name of my breed is "Vienna High Flying Pigeons". They are not for sale.
Which fly faster vienna or Budapest? Any ideas anyone?
There is no general statement about this. Regardless of the breed, there are families who fly faster or slower. Viennese used to be faster in earlier times. Today most Viennese are crossed with Budapesters. With that their speed decreased. My own Viennese HF you can see in the videos are from an old pure strain and still show the speed that was common in the past.
@@CuMulusDancerZ - thanks my friend. Great birds and good to know that you keeping that strain alive. It would be great to have something that has the speed of racers and have highflying abilities too.
My favorites birds. I currently have 90 of them. All need from imports.
Very nice 👍
nice bub
Im interested in squeakers.
Hi ,Is your bloodline from Karl Krumbuk.
Yes, you are right. Some of these birds are purebreed K. Krombach.
@@CuMulusDancerZ
Hi ,Do you have a special feed for your fliers when training them..
I feed them with a high-calorie, high-protein and low-fiber blend. Due to their power-exhausting flying style, these pigeons need a different mix than classic high-flyers, which fly more slowly and energy-saving.
I want to buy these pegion. your pegion is best flying and beautiful. How can I buy I am from Pakistan.
Thanks for your comment. Selling in foreign countrys is to complicated and expensive. Sorry for that.
I am happy to see your reply. Yes your are right it is complicated and expensive. I can bear expensive but it is procedure is length. Any way If need your guide to better fly of pegion may i contact with you.
Wish I could get some these birds in America
Donn´t worry. Every Country has its special breed. For example, the American breeders have much better Birmingham Rollers like we have in Germany ;-)
Where are you country sir
The country where I live is Germany, Europe. Kind regards.
@@CuMulusDancerZ ok
What a wonderful experience to watch this film. Many thanks for it!
After having tried many breeds of pigeons, I will soon get a pair of Viennese Highflyers in white for breeding and I am already looking forward to it very much.
Since I live in the middle of the city in Germany, Berlin, and I can only keep very few pigeons at all times, I have a particularly close relationship with my animals:
ruclips.net/video/f1QCBdNeqqg/видео.html
Thanks for your nice comment. I watched your video. Please keep in mind that Vienna high flyers are extremely shy and never become as tame as Budapest high flyers. For your purposes, I would definitely recommend calmer pigeon breeds - unless, you want to get the Nobel Prize in Animal Training.
@@CuMulusDancerZ Thanks, I really want to become the "Pigeon Whisperer" of Berlin! And white doves near the corrupt German government are a good sign for peace, especially since we have a bankruptcy vulture in our national coat of arms.
Well, I also had totally tame tipplers, but they stayed with me mostly 12 hours in the air and that was not so well timed. And when a thunderstorm came up they flew further and beyond. So I sometimes got one again, who found nice people 50 km away and informed me.
What attracts me to the Viennese besides the beautiful colour is their nervousness. In my residential area there are 3 hawk nests with annual offspring, so I need pigeons that fly well and fast and don't stay away so long. It is a pity that I can keep 9 pigeons at the most and I don't let the breeding pair fly out or I will always start over again.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Ok, then I wish you much success. In terms of hawks, the Vienna HF is one of the safest pigeon breeds I know and surely a good idea.
What many people do not know: Berlin is not only the German capital, but also the city in which most hawks are breeding. The main problem will be the nervousness of the VHF. I would try hand-raised pigeons.
@@CuMulusDancerZ But my young pigeons are always raised by myself! ruclips.net/video/J6VUiILHUSU/видео.html
With that you get them well tamed and from the air they come back on my hand signal. I already had females, which were only inseminated by the pigeon on my hand :-)
Birds of prey I find also very beautiful and especially the falcons, the problem in Berlin is only that the Olive-Greens (war party) always buy new ones from breeders and then abandon them here! The griffins are then not afraid of humans at all and with me they sometimes even fly into the kitchen window, and the sparrowhawk was already sitting on the cage with my best canary cock! www.flickr.com/photos/priapos/16728817917/in/album-72157644873688077/
Tomorrow I will get my Wiener and 2 eggs with it. Hopefully everything goes well, I am very curious. I have already watched your films several times now, this increases the anticipation even more. And once again a big praise: Even underwater skimming, someone has to do that first.
I live in the USA. Where can I buy Vienna Highflyers?
Unfortunately I don´t know any Vienna breeders in the United States :-(. I have heard of Vienna Tumblers in the USA, but these birds are only breed for exhibition and not for flying.
@@CuMulusDancerZ The Budapest Highflyer is very common here. Are the Budapest and Vienna Highflyers the same breed? Or, are they closely related? They do resemble one another.
Hello Joe. They are not the same breed but Budapest HF and Vienna HF are closely related. The Vienna HF are one of the main the ancestors of the Budapest HF. Therefore the Vienna is the older breed and the Budapest the newer. The founders of the Budapest were the Poeltl brothers. Budapest HF fly calm and for some hours. They are not so Peregine resistant like the real Viennas. Original Vienna HF (the birds in my video) fly faster and more stylisch but not so long as a result of their faster fly. Concerning their hight there is no difference between this both breeds. BUT within this both breeds there are different breeding lines. Therefore, the differences sometimes blur.
@@CuMulusDancerZ Thank you for your informative response. Your Vienna HF are as beautiful as your video. I will continue to search for birds with the looks and flying qualities your birds have.
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Brother I love ur Pegion can u sale me plz brother
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