One unfortunate thing about those composite-video capture things is that you lose a lot in terms of video quality. I got an old 20$ laptop with firewire so I could get the footage from my Sony miniDV camera without any compression + at 50 fps (interlaced though). The footage is really good!
I've seen some good side by sides and I felt like it was good enough, I couldnt really tell the difference in a blind test. I'm sure some are worse than others though. Also probably matters more with more serious camcorders
@@snappiness Oh definitely. My Sony TRV900 (MiniDV camcorder) cost around $3,700 in 1998, and the quality is pretty insane. There isn't any sort of a sharpening filter in the camcorder like you might find on other camcorders, and the video quality is probably not too far from the best you could get out of MiniDV. The lens is sharp, and despite being a 12x zoom lens, the aperture is F/1.6 to F/2.8. With three CCD sensors, lowlight video is insane- and there isn't even a NightShot mode. To give you an idea, I can use the camera after sunset with a 1/500 shutter speed at F/2.8 with 0 gain!
I was gonna comment this. I use a Canon GL2 and had a composite converter and the quality was just awful. When I use my FireWire card in my pc, I can export video at 1080p 60fps and it looks substantially better. I don’t think the convenience is worth it unless you wanna look back at footage and you don’t wanna burn the tape heads out
I love that this is a thing. Made me dig up the old Panasonic PVGS14 that my parents bought when I was in High School and I've used when I went on a trip to Japan. Using it again is crazy nostalgic, and I think you hit the nail in the head when you talked about this tech that was used when we were younger now somehow finds its way to capture memories in the present. It's like our childhood and the memories we make now made a shortcut and connect to each other haha
What a coincidence that you post this today. I snagged a Sony DCR-TRV320 a few weeks ago at a thrift store in the hopes of using it to recover footage from a stack of Digital8 (digital Hi8) tapes I’ve had floating around for the last 20+ years. One of them happened to be footage from my honeymoon that I thought was lost long ago. After some attempts to get a FireWire pcie card, and necessary software to work on windows 10/11 I pulled an ancient 12” PowerBook from my collection and used iMovie ‘06 to ingest the footage.
@ Frustrating is right. I did get an opportunity to validate my obsession with and hoarding of vintage gear, so that’s a plus. And my teenage daughters got a kick out of seeing their parents as a young married couple.
I have gone from owning no camcorders to now seven sitting on the shelf in two weeks! It is a bit addicting to hunt for all these cameras that I once dreamed of but could never afford growing up. I am also doing the DVR route, until my cleaning tape arrive from Japan, but what I found is that DV was sort of the "bad digital" you had mentioned in another video, and I found that VHS-C and Hi8 yield for a much more lofi result!
This is exactly why I picked up a Pentax MX-4, I got one with battery, charger, and wide angle adapter for $100 and it's the perfect early 2000s camcorder video aesthetic
I have a few newer Canon and Panasonic camcorders that record onto SD card. I kind of wish there was a way to change the aspect ratio to 4:3 in camera but the crazy long optical zoom, stabilisation, ease of use (pull out the screen and they are good to go) and the ease of editing the files on a last gen iPad mini makes them a great tool for capturing memories while on vacation.
I’ve been collecting camcorders for a long time and I don’t film with them at all, I collect all the funky looking ones and the unique ones, I love the weird formats like I have an open reel camcorder and I also have Betamax and some other ones
You can also go the slightly easier route for a similar vibe with early non-tape camcorders. I've got one from a friend that has micro-HDMI out, though sadly that output doesn't work due to the connector being... well... micro-HDMI.
Slightly off topic, I recently watched a video on how cheap cameras like the original Canon C100 are today. Especially if you shop around for batteries. For anyone content with full HD - and who isn't on most viewing platforms - old pro and semi-pro digital camcorders make a lot of sense. On topic, Sony's full size DV tape camcorders have a lot of control for enthusiastic video makers.
Great topic, it’s interesting how the old technology is making a gradual comeback
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These crazes can be useful. I have recently sold my Fujifilm X-E1 that I had bought used in 2015 for 300 EUR, for 250 EUR. Basically, sold my camera and 27mm pancake for only 80 euros less than I paid and got a used X-E3. And I remember when cameras like mine were lingering in the ads for about 100 EUR for months without selling. It just took nostalgia for the X trans sensor and a few RUclips videos to spark the revival, and the prices went through the roof.
I bought and old canon mv camcorder from 2005 for about 15 dollars mini dv , and too my surprise after using it for some time with tape i noticed a small little latch , it was and sd card slot 😅, the old timey sd, i bought one that was compatible for testing (1GB) and it works flawlessly and gives the same image quality and y2k aesthetic as the minidv , its seems to me that as we left the tape era and eased into the digital some of those later models incorporated both formats , so if you're on the look for the minidv look without having to mod one to accept sd , i believe it to be a good option also , they can be tricky to find and there doesnt seem to be much information online ,my model is the canon mv830 mini dv , love the channel 😀
Nice video with cool tips. I've been bidding and getting cool retro video cameras from Japan for resale in my country. Handheld videocams with flippy screens are the rage now outselling retro pocketable Point & Shoot. A lot of buyers I interviewed will be using them as "props' in their IG, FB, TikToks. I personally love my Canon Ivis Hf-M32 also direct from Japan with the Japanese menu, decent footage with that days gone past feel.
I feel like tapeless recording is the way to go for new content. About 4 years ago I was trying to capture 20+ year old miniDV tapes over FireWire and found my latest camcorder was having problems with the audio. I sent it in for service but that only marginally improved it. I got a second miniDV camcorder and there were still audio problems and drop outs. I don't know if it's because of head alignment differences from my original Sony DCR-PC1 or if something happened to the tape media over time. It's a cautionary tale to not sit on old media as you get newer hardware. They might not work when you try to play it.
I like my old tape camcorders, but when I wanted one to be "tapeless" due to a dodgy mechanism that I couldn't repair properly, I just went out and bought a memory card camcorder instead :).
You completely missed the point if you think millenials got into vinyl because it was "pure analog" - a quality even audiophiles can't distinguish when subjected to a double blinded test
Meanwhile… CINEMA cameras are now dirt cheap. I bought a Sony NEX-FS100 with the 18-200 lens for $450. The lens is worth that much by itself. I can buy an FS700 with the 18-200 powerzoom lens, which is 4K capable for less than $900. That is likely the next toy on my list. I just prefer E-mount for my lenses. I like FireWire/iLink camcorders for tapeless applications. I still have a Sony VX2000 (it could be a PD150 as well) somewhere. FireWire will give you highest fidelity. :) VX2000 is a distant predecessor of cinema cameras. It had a 3CCD sensor, FireWire, built-in ND, and other professional features. When I find my VX2000 in storage, I won’t be keeping it. My FS100 is far more capable. I’ll let someone else enjoy it.
It's always fun seeing old tech being used today. Have you tried any of the early digital camcorders? You have me curious about how different the look is.
I've always loved camcorders, started messing around with them when I was young making short films, I wanted to move to something that I could change lenses on and remember being disappointed that mirrorless stills cameras were pretty much the only offering, ended up getting the original Sony A7S which I was happy with, except I still find myself missing the ergonomics of a camcorder, even to this day no one is making a decent interchangeable lens camcorder that doesn't break the bank! Apart from a few exceptions like the JVC GY-LS300, and the old Sony "NEX-VGXX" line-up, I would love for Sony to release a next generation VG900 Full Frame Prosumer Interchangeable Lens Camcorder, the amazing technology they have in the Alpha series line crammed into a camcorder that doesn't cost thousands like the FX6.... I would be soooo happy
My wife recently wanted me to buy a camcorder despite all the professional 4k60 HDR gear that I already have. We had been looking at some of her dad's old tapes and getting to see her and her siblings when they were really little was very cool. My dad also has a bunch of tapes but I don't have a player for his stuff so I haven't tried to get him to hand over what he has yet. I ended up going with a very compact JVC camera straight from Japan. The quality is just decent at 1080P30 but that's what I wanted. I knew if it looked too good then it would take away from the purpose of having an actual camcoder. Maybe my wife was tuned into something that is more prevalent with normal (non-photography/videography oriented) people, but I do agree with others that many of the cameras out there are way overpriced for what you are getting. I saw many basic HD camcorders going for 2 or 3 times the MSRP from just a few years ago. Unfortunately there is no sanity in the market anymore.
I like my digital 8 sony camera, I have a Windows XP computer that I've maintained so I just capture the file over firewire and go from there. Pretty fun stuff.
i am trying to do the same thing using a different canon model but idk it isnt outputing anything out, i was trying to output to a tv using av to composite cable is there any suggestions?
I think a big reason people are gravitating towards these cameras is the global shutter capture method they use. Who'd have thought it looks good for a device whose purpose is to capture movement to faithfully capture movement instead of smearing it? Crash zooms and fast pans are great.
There is no need to digitise DV tapes at all. They are already storing digital video. Same mistake again at about 5:05. These miniDV cameras already record digitally.
I think the later model of DV standard video camcorder that use internal hard drive or memory card instead of tape will give you similar result but it will not have a mess of ripping your video from tape. These digital camcorders may not have to use TV Tuner or Capture Card to take video from them like camcorders before digital era (VHSC and Video8 format) but the process is not really just drag and drop. When I tried to get video out from camera into file the first time I don't want to deal with them again.
It is a fun thing but it is like going back almost 30 years. You will have to make a video with one of the old cameras and try to upscale to 720p and post it. 🙂
I once got a Sony MiniDV for free with a camera backpack. It worked fine so I kept it. Sold it last month for $100! So now... Got the backpack free plus an extra $75! Nice. Thanks kids.
Im experimenting with the same setup but with vacuum tube cameras. Nuvicon, Plumbicon, etc. It's a challenge but fun. I just got the Portta for Christmas. Cheaper but requires external power.
Yo i have a camcorder it was my parents’ and it’s like new now. i fixed it before this video because i got into the whole camcorder game before christmas. These cameras surprisingly can record video to SD, in 320p or 320i, which is super low compared to today’s standards, and the night vision is almost useless. I use mine the way it was meant to, no extra screens, just a MiniDV JVC or Fuji tape and some tacky effects, gives it a unique look. Can’t wait to attend car shows, def think i’ll get some sick footage there.
I love camcorders but I'm into the more pro, interchangeable lens, types now that they're more affordable. Like the Sony VG30, JVC LS300 and even a Sony FS5
I have an old Canon G9 camera. It shoots video at 640x480 onto an SD card. Many other older cameras would do the same. Sounds like less work than using tapes.
Some camcorders can actually record video to the sd card. Though the one that i have (Panasonic nv-gs55) records to sd ib lower resolution and with lower framerate because the video is not interlaces unlike on tape, so in addition it almost doesn't look like camcorder footage, but it's still fun
I could do this with my Canon DM-XM1, I've seen this on eBay for 500 AUD... I got it for free 6 years ago... I got fire wire video working on it briefly on my old MacBook Pro, which still works. I think the batteries were totally cooked and had to use DC input power.
I have a semi-pro Panasonic DV with great lens and full audio I/O. Picked up a cheap composite - to - HDMI convertor and plugged it into my Ninja V. Looked awesome on the Ninja but on any display larger than 5" looks like crap. Gave up on that.
I will try the AV out capture option. I have a great Canon mini-DV camcorder but getting the FireWire (IEEE 1394) output to work with anything else is a nightmare, since FW is a dead interface. That’s a shame because the output on that camcorder is very high quality.
Hey I have a Sony CCD-V200E camcorder from my grandpa and I'm just wondering if anyone has found the battery for this thing, because this didn't come with one and finding one where I am is like virtually impossible
Sony or Pentax should take a 1" sensor (although I would be happy with an ASP-C sensor) and put them in this camcorder form factor. The image quality is just so depressingly low resolution. But, the ergonomics and tactile feeling is so much better than tapping on a touchscreen. Until that happens... what snacks is your wife going to serve at your G.A.S. intervention? *tee hee*
Just get one that records to an SD card or even better has a built in HD. The earlier ones still have the Lo-Fi SD asthetic and you'll get way more advanced features than the older tape ones!
Says the guy who's driving up the cost of cheap bikes! Talk about "back in my day" or "kids these days" or "GET OFF MY LAWN" or "noooo I don't want to go to the nursing home" Bye.
The half-plugged-in thing can be resolved by cutting and switching wires around in the cable. You probably don't even need to solder it, a tight wrap and some electrical tape would probably get you done.
Although now that I think about it you'd need some kind of meter to figure out which wire goes to which bit of the connector, so maybe you do need to be a little more prepared than I initially imagined.
As a person who grew up with film, cassettes and camcorders I have no desire to go back to them. Yes I get the feeling of nostalgia but technology has moved forward and I don’t understand this backwards mentality. It is nice though to know about the tapeless camcorder option and what can be done with it. I will keep that in mind in case my younger cousin who is i to these fads decides she wants to give them a try.
I’m with you totally. I think people that maybe remember the thing but didn’t have to deal with the using of the thing back then have a different perspective. If you were in some videos that you remember looking a certain way it probably sparks nostalgia. If you had to store and use all these stupid different formats, cables, capture devices and workarounds…none of which were cross compatible or available to buy easily or cheaply, and wait in real time for everything to be captured in any kind of reusable form, you probably feel different. If someone decides that Sony’s MemoryStick duo is the absolute best retro recording format, we will know the end times have begun.
Well, my old Sony camcorder has huge optical zoom, infrared recording with illumination, and FireWire output, plus video out that I have running to an inexpensive usb digitizer, so it's got some features that are quite crappy on phone cameras. and, my dslr has HDMI ...
@OP; Yes - people obviously do pointless things. Maybe even more so, if they sense that the expected, correct way is… pointless for other reasons? If - just if - tomorrow doesn’t feel too good, one may revert to whatever is «retro»? When «sense» doesn’t cut it, nonsense has a place. Not for rationality, if whatever’s irrational fills the void. If there’s more _meaning_ in being irrational, that’s what we increasingly prefer in our time…? 😊
There's some other old formats I am hoping to do this with. And those are actually dead formats so it's almost impossible to get images off the cameras.
the old sony mavica have av outs too and they have the same sensors as the video cameras from that era. you can easily do this with old sony cameras with av outs.
Great analysis, thank you! I need some advice: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
Film has a point. You actually shoot it, and can touch the negative. And people still print from them. Same with Super8 / Super 16 But DV....I don't get it at all. There is literally not a good reason...
Its OK, I don't like when tiktok drives up the price of nicer quality cameras either, just for them to neglect them and to use them just because its trendy.
One unfortunate thing about those composite-video capture things is that you lose a lot in terms of video quality. I got an old 20$ laptop with firewire so I could get the footage from my Sony miniDV camera without any compression + at 50 fps (interlaced though). The footage is really good!
I've seen some good side by sides and I felt like it was good enough, I couldnt really tell the difference in a blind test. I'm sure some are worse than others though. Also probably matters more with more serious camcorders
@@snappiness Oh definitely. My Sony TRV900 (MiniDV camcorder) cost around $3,700 in 1998, and the quality is pretty insane. There isn't any sort of a sharpening filter in the camcorder like you might find on other camcorders, and the video quality is probably not too far from the best you could get out of MiniDV. The lens is sharp, and despite being a 12x zoom lens, the aperture is F/1.6 to F/2.8. With three CCD sensors, lowlight video is insane- and there isn't even a NightShot mode. To give you an idea, I can use the camera after sunset with a 1/500 shutter speed at F/2.8 with 0 gain!
I was gonna comment this. I use a Canon GL2 and had a composite converter and the quality was just awful. When I use my FireWire card in my pc, I can export video at 1080p 60fps and it looks substantially better. I don’t think the convenience is worth it unless you wanna look back at footage and you don’t wanna burn the tape heads out
Yeah, composite sucks. Going to at least S-Video would be a massive improvement in quality.
@@forevernotjohn what was the converter you were using, do you remember?
I always just answer the "why bother?" question with a mixture of "Because I want to." and "it's fun". That's usually all people need to know. lol
I love that this is a thing. Made me dig up the old Panasonic PVGS14 that my parents bought when I was in High School and I've used when I went on a trip to Japan. Using it again is crazy nostalgic, and I think you hit the nail in the head when you talked about this tech that was used when we were younger now somehow finds its way to capture memories in the present. It's like our childhood and the memories we make now made a shortcut and connect to each other haha
What a coincidence that you post this today. I snagged a Sony DCR-TRV320 a few weeks ago at a thrift store in the hopes of using it to recover footage from a stack of Digital8 (digital Hi8) tapes I’ve had floating around for the last 20+ years. One of them happened to be footage from my honeymoon that I thought was lost long ago. After some attempts to get a FireWire pcie card, and necessary software to work on windows 10/11 I pulled an ancient 12” PowerBook from my collection and used iMovie ‘06 to ingest the footage.
@@chris.cantwell nice! These are the kinds of projects that are so satisfying when they finally work, and so frustrating along the way 😂
@ Frustrating is right. I did get an opportunity to validate my obsession with and hoarding of vintage gear, so that’s a plus. And my teenage daughters got a kick out of seeing their parents as a young married couple.
I think this is your most concise and straight to the point video yet. Nicely done. Happy snappin and happpy holidays.
NOT me looking at 8mm camcorders on another screen... XD
I have gone from owning no camcorders to now seven sitting on the shelf in two weeks! It is a bit addicting to hunt for all these cameras that I once dreamed of but could never afford growing up. I am also doing the DVR route, until my cleaning tape arrive from Japan, but what I found is that DV was sort of the "bad digital" you had mentioned in another video, and I found that VHS-C and Hi8 yield for a much more lofi result!
This is exactly why I picked up a Pentax MX-4, I got one with battery, charger, and wide angle adapter for $100 and it's the perfect early 2000s camcorder video aesthetic
I have a few newer Canon and Panasonic camcorders that record onto SD card. I kind of wish there was a way to change the aspect ratio to 4:3 in camera but the crazy long optical zoom, stabilisation, ease of use (pull out the screen and they are good to go) and the ease of editing the files on a last gen iPad mini makes them a great tool for capturing memories while on vacation.
I love my sony cx405. It's not tape but it's everything that a person needs in a camcorder. We love making family videos on it.
I’ve been collecting camcorders for a long time and I don’t film with them at all, I collect all the funky looking ones and the unique ones, I love the weird formats like I have an open reel camcorder and I also have Betamax and some other ones
You can also go the slightly easier route for a similar vibe with early non-tape camcorders. I've got one from a friend that has micro-HDMI out, though sadly that output doesn't work due to the connector being... well... micro-HDMI.
Slightly off topic, I recently watched a video on how cheap cameras like the original Canon C100 are today. Especially if you shop around for batteries. For anyone content with full HD - and who isn't on most viewing platforms - old pro and semi-pro digital camcorders make a lot of sense. On topic, Sony's full size DV tape camcorders have a lot of control for enthusiastic video makers.
Great topic, it’s interesting how the old technology is making a gradual comeback
These crazes can be useful. I have recently sold my Fujifilm X-E1 that I had bought used in 2015 for 300 EUR, for 250 EUR. Basically, sold my camera and 27mm pancake for only 80 euros less than I paid and got a used X-E3. And I remember when cameras like mine were lingering in the ads for about 100 EUR for months without selling. It just took nostalgia for the X trans sensor and a few RUclips videos to spark the revival, and the prices went through the roof.
I bought and old canon mv camcorder from 2005 for about 15 dollars mini dv , and too my surprise after using it for some time with tape i noticed a small little latch , it was and sd card slot 😅, the old timey sd, i bought one that was compatible for testing (1GB) and it works flawlessly and gives the same image quality and y2k aesthetic as the minidv , its seems to me that as we left the tape era and eased into the digital some of those later models incorporated both formats , so if you're on the look for the minidv look without having to mod one to accept sd , i believe it to be a good option also , they can be tricky to find and there doesnt seem to be much information online ,my model is the canon mv830 mini dv , love the channel 😀
Nice video with cool tips. I've been bidding and getting cool retro video cameras from Japan for resale in my country. Handheld videocams with flippy screens are the rage now outselling retro pocketable Point & Shoot. A lot of buyers I interviewed will be using them as "props' in their IG, FB, TikToks. I personally love my Canon Ivis Hf-M32 also direct from Japan with the Japanese menu, decent footage with that days gone past feel.
I feel like tapeless recording is the way to go for new content. About 4 years ago I was trying to capture 20+ year old miniDV tapes over FireWire and found my latest camcorder was having problems with the audio. I sent it in for service but that only marginally improved it. I got a second miniDV camcorder and there were still audio problems and drop outs. I don't know if it's because of head alignment differences from my original Sony DCR-PC1 or if something happened to the tape media over time. It's a cautionary tale to not sit on old media as you get newer hardware. They might not work when you try to play it.
That's so sick!! Mist be so much easier to get older footage now!
Soon they will be coming for our DSLRs
I like my old tape camcorders, but when I wanted one to be "tapeless" due to a dodgy mechanism that I couldn't repair properly, I just went out and bought a memory card camcorder instead :).
In your opinion, which is the digital handycam with the image quality closest to a VHS?
We are at the same point similar to the time of CDs and streaming but people wanted vinyl.
Except that vinyl is pure analog. This is not. Zero point in this.
You completely missed the point if you think millenials got into vinyl because it was "pure analog" - a quality even audiophiles can't distinguish when subjected to a double blinded test
Meanwhile… CINEMA cameras are now dirt cheap. I bought a Sony NEX-FS100 with the 18-200 lens for $450. The lens is worth that much by itself. I can buy an FS700 with the 18-200 powerzoom lens, which is 4K capable for less than $900. That is likely the next toy on my list. I just prefer E-mount for my lenses.
I like FireWire/iLink camcorders for tapeless applications. I still have a Sony VX2000 (it could be a PD150 as well) somewhere. FireWire will give you highest fidelity. :) VX2000 is a distant predecessor of cinema cameras. It had a 3CCD sensor, FireWire, built-in ND, and other professional features.
When I find my VX2000 in storage, I won’t be keeping it. My FS100 is far more capable. I’ll let someone else enjoy it.
Как я раньше до этого не додумался 😅
You can just get a composite to UVC adapter, and record onto your phone.
I love the sony vx1000. So many good memories from that camera.
Is that not the old rca logo on the victor cameras?
It's always fun seeing old tech being used today. Have you tried any of the early digital camcorders? You have me curious about how different the look is.
I've always loved camcorders, started messing around with them when I was young making short films, I wanted to move to something that I could change lenses on and remember being disappointed that mirrorless stills cameras were pretty much the only offering, ended up getting the original Sony A7S which I was happy with, except I still find myself missing the ergonomics of a camcorder, even to this day no one is making a decent interchangeable lens camcorder that doesn't break the bank! Apart from a few exceptions like the JVC GY-LS300, and the old Sony "NEX-VGXX" line-up, I would love for Sony to release a next generation VG900 Full Frame Prosumer Interchangeable Lens Camcorder, the amazing technology they have in the Alpha series line crammed into a camcorder that doesn't cost thousands like the FX6.... I would be soooo happy
One stupid question: so I guess that setup would work too with my analog Sony super 8 video camera?
My wife recently wanted me to buy a camcorder despite all the professional 4k60 HDR gear that I already have. We had been looking at some of her dad's old tapes and getting to see her and her siblings when they were really little was very cool. My dad also has a bunch of tapes but I don't have a player for his stuff so I haven't tried to get him to hand over what he has yet. I ended up going with a very compact JVC camera straight from Japan. The quality is just decent at 1080P30 but that's what I wanted. I knew if it looked too good then it would take away from the purpose of having an actual camcoder. Maybe my wife was tuned into something that is more prevalent with normal (non-photography/videography oriented) people, but I do agree with others that many of the cameras out there are way overpriced for what you are getting. I saw many basic HD camcorders going for 2 or 3 times the MSRP from just a few years ago. Unfortunately there is no sanity in the market anymore.
Shout out from Valencia. Love your style and content
I like my digital 8 sony camera, I have a Windows XP computer that I've maintained so I just capture the file over firewire and go from there. Pretty fun stuff.
i am trying to do the same thing using a different canon model but idk it isnt outputing anything out, i was trying to output to a tv using av to composite cable is there any suggestions?
I think a big reason people are gravitating towards these cameras is the global shutter capture method they use.
Who'd have thought it looks good for a device whose purpose is to capture movement to faithfully capture movement instead of smearing it?
Crash zooms and fast pans are great.
There is no need to digitise DV tapes at all. They are already storing digital video.
Same mistake again at about 5:05. These miniDV cameras already record digitally.
Looks fun
I think the later model of DV standard video camcorder that use internal hard drive or memory card instead of tape will give you similar result but it will not have a mess of ripping your video from tape. These digital camcorders may not have to use TV Tuner or Capture Card to take video from them like camcorders before digital era (VHSC and Video8 format) but the process is not really just drag and drop. When I tried to get video out from camera into file the first time I don't want to deal with them again.
It is a fun thing but it is like going back almost 30 years. You will have to make a video with one of the old cameras and try to upscale to 720p and post it. 🙂
I had those but i will never go back.
I once got a Sony MiniDV for free with a camera backpack. It worked fine so I kept it. Sold it last month for $100! So now... Got the backpack free plus an extra $75! Nice. Thanks kids.
Haha, nice!
hey old cameras are really cool.. i always make sure they are bargains though..
Still got my handful of Sony MiniDV Handycams
Im experimenting with the same setup but with vacuum tube cameras. Nuvicon, Plumbicon, etc. It's a challenge but fun. I just got the Portta for Christmas. Cheaper but requires external power.
That's very cool. Yet another rabbit hole to dive down!
Yo i have a camcorder it was my parents’ and it’s like new now. i fixed it before this video because i got into the whole camcorder game before christmas.
These cameras surprisingly can record video to SD, in 320p or 320i, which is super low compared to today’s standards, and the night vision is almost useless.
I use mine the way it was meant to, no extra screens, just a MiniDV JVC or Fuji tape and some tacky effects, gives it a unique look.
Can’t wait to attend car shows, def think i’ll get some sick footage there.
I love camcorders but I'm into the more pro, interchangeable lens, types now that they're more affordable. Like the Sony VG30, JVC LS300 and even a Sony FS5
I have an old Canon G9 camera. It shoots video at 640x480 onto an SD card. Many other older cameras would do the same. Sounds like less work than using tapes.
Some camcorders can actually record video to the sd card. Though the one that i have (Panasonic nv-gs55) records to sd ib lower resolution and with lower framerate because the video is not interlaces unlike on tape, so in addition it almost doesn't look like camcorder footage, but it's still fun
Problem is many phone apps can simulate the camcorder look perfectly.
Shooting tapeless degrades video quality significantly
they make av cables that resolve the cable having to be partially out. they are kinda spendy, i think $30 or so.
My micro 4/3 camera shoots 480P video just like a old 90s camcorder❤
I could do this with my Canon DM-XM1, I've seen this on eBay for 500 AUD... I got it for free 6 years ago...
I got fire wire video working on it briefly on my old MacBook Pro, which still works. I think the batteries were totally cooked and had to use DC input power.
I have a semi-pro Panasonic DV with great lens and full audio I/O. Picked up a cheap composite - to - HDMI convertor and plugged it into my Ninja V. Looked awesome on the Ninja but on any display larger than 5" looks like crap. Gave up on that.
Guess its time to dust off my old 637/DSR1.... Yay... continued relevance .. LOL
love my canon vixia
but are they?
I will try the AV out capture option. I have a great Canon mini-DV camcorder but getting the FireWire (IEEE 1394) output to work with anything else is a nightmare, since FW is a dead interface. That’s a shame because the output on that camcorder is very high quality.
getting old kinda suck. i always hesistate to watch new movies from actors i dont know
Hey I have a Sony CCD-V200E camcorder from my grandpa and I'm just wondering if anyone has found the battery for this thing, because this didn't come with one and finding one where I am is like virtually impossible
Sony or Pentax should take a 1" sensor (although I would be happy with an ASP-C sensor) and put them in this camcorder form factor. The image quality is just so depressingly low resolution. But, the ergonomics and tactile feeling is so much better than tapping on a touchscreen. Until that happens... what snacks is your wife going to serve at your G.A.S. intervention? *tee hee*
Like the Pentax MX4 - it was a camera but in camcorder form. Very weird but cool.
Just get one that records to an SD card or even better has a built in HD.
The earlier ones still have the Lo-Fi SD asthetic and you'll get way more advanced features than the older tape ones!
Sometimes you can’t get rid of the menu items when you record
Does that just depend on the model?
@@snappiness Yes. My camcorder doesn't output the on screen info by default.
we need a Sony HVR-MRC1 but cheaper..
r/camcorders is about to storm your comments lol
no they're not
Another completely obsolete thing to mark up ridiculously expensive used 😑
Says the guy who's driving up the cost of cheap bikes! Talk about "back in my day" or "kids these days" or "GET OFF MY LAWN" or "noooo I don't want to go to the nursing home"
Bye.
@@theodorekorehonen You got me there! I'm just salty cause i want one
Oooh I hope Fujifilms get cheaper🤞
@@Kabuldor Yeah and I hope to win the megamillion. Keep dreaming, lmao
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The half-plugged-in thing can be resolved by cutting and switching wires around in the cable. You probably don't even need to solder it, a tight wrap and some electrical tape would probably get you done.
Although now that I think about it you'd need some kind of meter to figure out which wire goes to which bit of the connector, so maybe you do need to be a little more prepared than I initially imagined.
As a person who grew up with film, cassettes and camcorders I have no desire to go back to them. Yes I get the feeling of nostalgia but technology has moved forward and I don’t understand this backwards mentality. It is nice though to know about the tapeless camcorder option and what can be done with it. I will keep that in mind in case my younger cousin who is i to these fads decides she wants to give them a try.
I’m with you totally. I think people that maybe remember the thing but didn’t have to deal with the using of the thing back then have a different perspective. If you were in some videos that you remember looking a certain way it probably sparks nostalgia. If you had to store and use all these stupid different formats, cables, capture devices and workarounds…none of which were cross compatible or available to buy easily or cheaply, and wait in real time for everything to be captured in any kind of reusable form, you probably feel different.
If someone decides that Sony’s MemoryStick duo is the absolute best retro recording format, we will know the end times have begun.
This is pointless IMO. You are just shooting crappy quality digital. This is nothing like shooting analog film, but if it makes you happy....
It looks cool no one cares about analog 😂
@ well if you just want a crappy digital mess, there are plenty of apps to make your smartphone video look just like this 😂
Well, my old Sony camcorder has huge optical zoom, infrared recording with illumination, and FireWire output, plus video out that I have running to an inexpensive usb digitizer, so it's got some features that are quite crappy on phone cameras. and, my dslr has HDMI ...
@OP; Yes - people obviously do pointless things. Maybe even more so, if they sense that the expected, correct way is… pointless for other reasons?
If - just if - tomorrow doesn’t feel too good, one may revert to whatever is «retro»?
When «sense» doesn’t cut it, nonsense has a place. Not for rationality, if whatever’s irrational fills the void.
If there’s more _meaning_ in being irrational, that’s what we increasingly prefer in our time…? 😊
PLZ PLZ PLZ make sony video8 expensive again!!! i need to sell my rig!! 🥲🥲
That's pretty cool. All kinds of cameras have AV outputs on them. Old bridge cameras like the Fujis could be interesting to do this with.
There's some other old formats I am hoping to do this with. And those are actually dead formats so it's almost impossible to get images off the cameras.
I've got an older Fujifilm bridge camera with a unique data transfer port. No live output as far as I am aware.
the old sony mavica have av outs too and they have the same sensors as the video cameras from that era. you can easily do this with old sony cameras with av outs.
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ah shit here we go again
Film has a point. You actually shoot it, and can touch the negative. And people still print from them.
Same with Super8 / Super 16
But DV....I don't get it at all. There is literally not a good reason...
No they Are NOT!
Ok
Why so angry?
Its OK, I don't like when tiktok drives up the price of nicer quality cameras either, just for them to neglect them and to use them just because its trendy.