If only SquareEnix played their cards right, stuck with Duodecim and refined and balanced everything to death, a remake or a sequel could have done them wonders. Dissidia had a great balance between story mode and online play. Why did they have to make NT holy shit
@@Gallacant a rebalance of the game is to be expected, but there were many things 012 did correctly that were tossed away in service of 3v3 Esports. And this is coming from a guy who loves watching and participating in high level play. Don't force an esports scene. Let people grass roots your game.
@@iruijc7yu2ir257 It's pretty damn bad. Let's be honest with ourselves. It was fun with friends. Very fun. But as a game. As a package. It was very bad when held up to the PsP iteration.
It's like they're having a seizure every few seconds like... Chill TF down, i could see the Cloud's chance to be able to dash straight into the opponent without getting attacked and even with Omni dash but i guess he's just too coward to be intimidated by Exdeath's epilepsy? Ex-death's shield timing is literally so bad and he used Almagest at non stagger opponent like he doesn't know anyone could just melee him to counter it without even giving a chance to use the shield again. It's like the equivalent of watching a cringe hypebeast doing their signature stuffs
@@robanderson9030 At that point it'd be more cost-efficient to flat-out remake it instead of just upscaling the graphics. Which would be super dope. Dissidia 3 on switch with Duodecims gameplay and all characters from the current Dissidia games? Sign me up!
Battle order from start : Cloud Vs. Exdeath. 4:46 : Cloud Vs. Kefka. 6:34 : Cloud Vs. Sephiroth. Next tag battle : 8:30 : Firion Vs. Sephiroth. 12:18 : Firion Vs. Ultimecia. 15:11 : Safer Sephiroth Vs. Ultimecia. Light side battles winned : 3 Dark side battles winned : 2 Since the last battle oppose 2 Dark sides. It's not taken in consideration.
Do you think it's possible to make a petition or something to have a dissidia game with this playstyle, or at least release this one on ps4 or pc and ad online matches?
@ChaireFace that's for sure it was really a good game, too bad they didn't made a ps3 version when it duodecim came out it would be really popular and maybe we would have something better then what they did with NT
NT is the same game but just being a team battle n a few movement changes. U can always just use lobbies for 1v1. It's a cool game decision that the developers made in my opinion ngl.
When you actually get good online matches, NT is great, it's just its own game. Plenty to focus on even with less mechanics for individual characters. Many of the aspects of 012 wouldn't work in a 3v3 team game though. Chase sequences, EX Mode/Bursts, Assists, Summons, all these equipment variables, a bunch of different HP attacks to space around (multiplied by three), infinite aerial combat greatly invalidating ground gameplay, BRV to HP attacks, block stun, conditional criticals...
@@3nvy248 No. It's not even remotely the same game. They took out all gear, most skills, the story mode, the labyrinth, and ALL of the replay value. Nt is NOT a Dissidia game. Not in spirit, not in function, and not in formula. You're free to like it, but it's NOT a Dissidia game, anymore than Final Fantasy Adventure is a Final Fantasy game.
Some of them are really good. Tbh my favs of all chars in dissidia are CoD/golbez/kefka/sephiroth/ultimecia/kuja/jecht. I also alt a few of the heroes like terra/WoL/lightning/yuna but overall I like the aforementioned villains' playstyle more.
Golbez is the only villain I can say that I play as seriously. I came for the baralicious older brother shtick but stayed for the the magical bitchslaps and teleport spamming. XP
martiano13bros He's a counter type character, so you're not really gonna have as much of a fun time with bots, then you would have with real players. Do I need to explan why?
This was exactly what I needed tonight, and I'm both pleasantly surprised to see that I've already been here and that more people have been trickling in after me. And yes, we do still need a console port! This game shmoves way harder than NT!
3v3 was fun and chaotic but you can still 1v1 on dissidia nt too. the thing about original dissidia psp was amazing because customization moveset and story mode. Remember Dissidia NT was A port from Japanese ARCADE so i understand why the moveset cannot be customize and less story content. But Dissidia NT still my fun 3v3&1v1 chaotic fighting games on my ps4, it feels like im playing an advance 3d enviroment moba games with over 80+ hours sparring hi tier bot that makes you play strategically instead on spamming. p.s i havent touch the online mode yet and im sad to see no more update(dlc) on NT but characters in NT is already amazing including dlc characters. plus i still play dissidia 012 on my vita when i wanna play it on the go😀
Oh my god ive never seen someone play Exdeath and Ultimecia so hardcore as these guys.Ive always thought exdeath as a counter-fighitng style character and Ultimecia as a "Stay back and charge arrows to then use your slow HP attacks" character. I still have a lot to learn.Might go back and use my PSvita and play this game again
yeesh,a good exdeath user getting really fuck you up.The fact that cloud's ex defence breaking ability doesnt work on omni block means that you still habe to be on your toes.Still awesome how you could still defeat him
And here I thought Dissidia's simple enough to be fun, these guys are doing speedrunner moves. Srsly though I've been playing Dissidia since 2011 to this day, but I actually ever only played with 6 or 7 people and only one of them is from a competitive scene, but I've never seen this kind of gameplay up until now >.> I'm only watching this but I've never been terrified to Ex-Death like this.
So, I know I'm late to the party! But if you're still looking for it, it's from Bravely Default and is called Serpent Eating the Ground! (Link to song, the part from your timestamp is right about 5:00 into the song) ruclips.net/video/pRFgviKp5hA/видео.html
I am a long time DDFF tournament player. This is the first time outside of our community that I was impressed. You guys actually dash feinting and the ex death using hp blodge cancels and hp dash feints. Your cloud play was pretty good too. Though, that sephiroth you played. You should have trashed him LOL. He was bad, not sure how you lost that. Here is some videos for you to take a look at. If your interested in improving any farther. Dart is widely considered one of the best clouds if not the best. ruclips.net/video/46b_4Y5-KjI/видео.html I am considered one of the best Sephiroth's. ruclips.net/video/lmYlc6wwOtY/видео.html And here is arguably the two best players in NA in a FT10 ruclips.net/video/ICoka9GdxuY/видео.html Here is a link to our community RUclips channel if your interested in watching old footage. Look for people like Dart, UW2K, Muggshotter, TKG, CLOUD 7 , KEWLDUDE, LXD, AK, DANNED, WHEELZ, KURORAIKI for some of the best character representation. Good job on your cloud play, like I said. You are fairly good for not being in our community. That says a lot. ruclips.net/video/yt-m0sCbmLA/видео.html
With both sides constantly stealing a large amount of each other’s bravery, I’m surprised neither of them are spamming bravery to HP attacks, better spend that bravery in depleting their health than use half-assed bravery attacks that only barely increase you own bravery pool and risk losing it to the opponent’s bravery pool
I would say he was a bigger menace in Dissidia 1 just because there were less systems to use against him. Also it, in my opinion, heavily depends on which version you play since there are (sometimes huge) differences between the japanese version and the ones the rest of the world has gotten (for example Cloud being much weaker in Dissidia 1 NA/EU than JP). But overall he should be a strong character throughout all versions one can play with an somewhat unorthodox learning curve since he deviates rather heavily from the rest of the cast.
Very nice. The only problem is that there's a severe lack of Gilgamesh. I'm sure that was just a huge mistake, that you feel bad about making to this day. But be more careful next time~!
I use EXP to EX Force on Squall since my whole build revolves around playing in EX mode - my character get's ridiculously strong during it , and having EXP to Force keeps me in that state for longer. If they use EXP to Bravery, that saves them from instantly being broken. That's my best guess as to why they didn't :)
That ultimecia was garboooo, Literally can't stop hitting buttons she should've just focused on dodging and setplaying using her 4 tracking missiles that have perfect homing then time your judgement (Doesn't matter if it hits or not) it's unblockable if you time it correctly
まくしえんMcshane• No is like a program that allow us to play it with an emulator but still play online.You can add me on discord if you want:Lunar Cypher#6068
That Exdeath in the first match was somehow one of the most competent yet clueless players I've seen from these VODs, use your assists dawg what are you doing.
The last one is my fav! Its The Other Promise from the Kingdom Hearts 2 Soundtrack. I listen to the 30 minute extended version almost every day. (Yeah, I have no life, don't judge!)
Too many 012 people complaining about NT here. NT wasn't a bad idea and the gameplay wasn't bad either. Gundam MBON/XB2 still has a shit ton of people play it so the team arena gameplay formula isn't the problem. It's extremely underrated even. NT lost its community because too many 012 players didn't want to adapt to a better balanced game. Team synergy and map awareness >>>>>>>>>> any slow campy aerial combat 012 revolves around. Equipment also has no place in multiplayer. It's the same reason Kid Icarus Uprising didn't take off competitively. In a campaign, they're great. In multiplayer, it convolutes niches and requires a boatload of unnecessary knowledge checks and hard counters. You end up micromanaging bans and take away the freedom of customization anyway. It more often than not pigeon holes a character into 3 moves with massive stat crutches rather than displaying actual skill in a mirror match. The lack of homogenization makes actual competition weaker. NT didn't do anything wrong. The Dissidia community was just more close minded than the producers thought.
![[Dissidia 012 Online] RDF2050 (Kain) vs LXD (Zidane)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/00Dzwxl0idY/mqdefault.jpg)
If only SquareEnix played their cards right, stuck with Duodecim and refined and balanced everything to death, a remake or a sequel could have done them wonders. Dissidia had a great balance between story mode and online play. Why did they have to make NT holy shit
Better be careful for what you wish for.
12:26 do you really want to play this... but inHD? Think carefully
NT isn’t as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
@@Gallacant a rebalance of the game is to be expected, but there were many things 012 did correctly that were tossed away in service of 3v3 Esports. And this is coming from a guy who loves watching and participating in high level play. Don't force an esports scene. Let people grass roots your game.
@@iruijc7yu2ir257 It's pretty damn bad. Let's be honest with ourselves. It was fun with friends. Very fun. But as a game. As a package. It was very bad when held up to the PsP iteration.
What the heck I played dissidia for years as a kid and never moved like this. These guys are on a different level
How he hit him with no lock? And why hes airdashing multi directional
People used to be so spastic it became meta
Ian Awdrey Santos He has Omni Air dash on.
Allowing him to dash in any direction, playing this old gem again.
It's like they're having a seizure every few seconds like... Chill TF down, i could see the Cloud's chance to be able to dash straight into the opponent without getting attacked and even with Omni dash but i guess he's just too coward to be intimidated by Exdeath's epilepsy? Ex-death's shield timing is literally so bad and he used Almagest at non stagger opponent like he doesn't know anyone could just melee him to counter it without even giving a chance to use the shield again.
It's like the equivalent of watching a cringe hypebeast doing their signature stuffs
@@noyoucantnoicantnowecantsostopI think they were building the Assist meter
Nobody:
Exdeath: “HANOMEDA!!"
Void
I'd love a re-release for the switch
Yeah, a remaster of this with NT's graphics would be amazing, especially for the switch
@@robanderson9030 At that point it'd be more cost-efficient to flat-out remake it instead of just upscaling the graphics. Which would be super dope. Dissidia 3 on switch with Duodecims gameplay and all characters from the current Dissidia games? Sign me up!
Wait they have this on switch?
@@marcoscastillo362 Sadly no. Would be dope tho
Nah it can barely run a Lego game😐
Seeing someone play exdeath to the point yoy make an enemy play defensively is a whole new level
Battle order from start :
Cloud Vs. Exdeath.
4:46 : Cloud Vs. Kefka.
6:34 : Cloud Vs. Sephiroth.
Next tag battle :
8:30 : Firion Vs. Sephiroth.
12:18 : Firion Vs. Ultimecia.
15:11 : Safer Sephiroth Vs. Ultimecia.
Light side battles winned : 3
Dark side battles winned : 2
Since the last battle oppose 2 Dark sides. It's not taken in consideration.
Oh its Tag Battles! I was wondering why everyone was comeing in with full Life and Cloud Had to Fight with His remaining health
Incredible to see how recent(for lack of better terms) this game was competitively played. Incredible seeing peak plays and incredible strats!
Do you think it's possible to make a petition or something to have a dissidia game with this playstyle, or at least release this one on ps4 or pc and ad online matches?
@ChaireFace that's for sure it was really a good game, too bad they didn't made a ps3 version when it duodecim came out it would be really popular and maybe we would have something better then what they did with NT
Dude, that assist use on first match is so smart.
This game is so much better then NT I don’t know why square went away from this style even the leveling up was so much better
its because nt is designed to be an arcade game
NT is the same game but just being a team battle n a few movement changes. U can always just use lobbies for 1v1. It's a cool game decision that the developers made in my opinion ngl.
When you actually get good online matches, NT is great, it's just its own game. Plenty to focus on even with less mechanics for individual characters. Many of the aspects of 012 wouldn't work in a 3v3 team game though. Chase sequences, EX Mode/Bursts, Assists, Summons, all these equipment variables, a bunch of different HP attacks to space around (multiplied by three), infinite aerial combat greatly invalidating ground gameplay, BRV to HP attacks, block stun, conditional criticals...
@@3nvy248 No. It's not even remotely the same game. They took out all gear, most skills, the story mode, the labyrinth, and ALL of the replay value. Nt is NOT a Dissidia game. Not in spirit, not in function, and not in formula. You're free to like it, but it's NOT a Dissidia game, anymore than Final Fantasy Adventure is a Final Fantasy game.
Than*
God seeing that exdeath made me want to play him now, 250 hours and I still havent really touched the villians, theyre all like lv 1 XD
Some of them are really good. Tbh my favs of all chars in dissidia are CoD/golbez/kefka/sephiroth/ultimecia/kuja/jecht. I also alt a few of the heroes like terra/WoL/lightning/yuna but overall I like the aforementioned villains' playstyle more.
Golbez is the only villain I can say that I play as seriously. I came for the baralicious older brother shtick but stayed for the the magical bitchslaps and teleport spamming. XP
If you guys have a ps3 we can play dissidia online, I’ve got videos up on my channel
martiano13bros He's a counter type character, so you're not really gonna have as much of a fun time with bots, then you would have with real players. Do I need to explan why?
Emperor and Sephiroth are so much fun to play, see EnemyToTheWorld videos to see some examples.
This was exactly what I needed tonight, and I'm both pleasantly surprised to see that I've already been here and that more people have been trickling in after me.
And yes, we do still need a console port! This game shmoves way harder than NT!
Oh my god.. the Bravely Default songs and your transitions are SO good!
still so badass.. wish there were still multiple frequent tournies for this gem
I agree with the newer comments; a 1v1-styled Dissidia remake/sequel for the Switch would be amazing, especially with online multiplayer matches.
This looked more Dragon Ball-ish than the battles in dragon ball games
Shot's fired
no shit
Earlier exdeath was just a fool , but in 012 he learns how to guard
As Neo-Exdeath or just as Exdeath?
7:40 Sephiroth has once again down Aerithed
i can still sephiroth saying "into the promise land"
i much prefer this over that new 3v3 one 😊
3v3 was fun and chaotic but you can still 1v1 on dissidia nt too. the thing about original dissidia psp was amazing because customization moveset and story mode. Remember Dissidia NT was A port from Japanese ARCADE so i understand why the moveset cannot be customize and less story content.
But Dissidia NT still my fun 3v3&1v1 chaotic fighting games on my ps4, it feels like im playing an advance 3d enviroment moba games with over 80+ hours sparring hi tier bot that makes you play strategically instead on spamming. p.s i havent touch the online mode yet and im sad to see no more update(dlc) on NT but characters in NT is already amazing including dlc characters.
plus i still play dissidia 012 on my vita when i wanna play it on the go😀
5:55 The music hits way perfectly.
Oh my god ive never seen someone play Exdeath and Ultimecia so hardcore as these guys.Ive always thought exdeath as a counter-fighitng style character and Ultimecia as a "Stay back and charge arrows to then use your slow HP attacks" character. I still have a lot to learn.Might go back and use my PSvita and play this game again
Apparently Exdeath and Ultimecia are considered the two of the 3best characters in the game, with the other being Prishe
This is so amazing to watch 😍
yeesh,a good exdeath user getting really fuck you up.The fact that cloud's ex defence breaking ability doesnt work on omni block means that you still habe to be on your toes.Still awesome how you could still defeat him
is there a benefit for cloud not using the EX special attack (or whatever it was called?) when he had the chance to press Square?
Yes. It wouldn't have killed, so it was smarter to hold it in hopes of getting more bravery and a second chance.
How did you have english text with japanese voice?
12:09 dash tho lol
when Cloud and Firion get the full EX gauge and are defeated after that, that hurts
And here I thought Dissidia's simple enough to be fun, these guys are doing speedrunner moves.
Srsly though I've been playing Dissidia since 2011 to this day, but I actually ever only played with 6 or 7 people and only one of them is from a competitive scene, but I've never seen this kind of gameplay up until now >.>
I'm only watching this but I've never been terrified to Ex-Death like this.
Is kefka voiced by buggy the clown?
6:17 the song sounds glorious what is the name of this track?
So, I know I'm late to the party! But if you're still looking for it, it's from Bravely Default and is called Serpent Eating the Ground!
(Link to song, the part from your timestamp is right about 5:00 into the song)
ruclips.net/video/pRFgviKp5hA/видео.html
Is there still an online scene active? I heard people are still raving with the emulator. Want to jump in on that
I wonder if they use D pad instead of analog. Because it would affect the skill action that you want to be used?
Tht first exdeath user thooo👀
How did he did the quick Dodge but not going forward instead going circle?
After watching this, now I understand what skills I should be using lol
I am a long time DDFF tournament player. This is the first time outside of our community that I was impressed. You guys actually dash feinting and the ex death using hp blodge cancels and hp dash feints. Your cloud play was pretty good too. Though, that sephiroth you played. You should have trashed him LOL. He was bad, not sure how you lost that. Here is some videos for you to take a look at. If your interested in improving any farther.
Dart is widely considered one of the best clouds if not the best.
ruclips.net/video/46b_4Y5-KjI/видео.html
I am considered one of the best Sephiroth's.
ruclips.net/video/lmYlc6wwOtY/видео.html
And here is arguably the two best players in NA in a FT10
ruclips.net/video/ICoka9GdxuY/видео.html
Here is a link to our community RUclips channel if your interested in watching old footage. Look for people like Dart, UW2K, Muggshotter, TKG, CLOUD 7 , KEWLDUDE, LXD, AK, DANNED, WHEELZ, KURORAIKI for some of the best character representation. Good job on your cloud play, like I said. You are fairly good for not being in our community. That says a lot.
ruclips.net/video/yt-m0sCbmLA/видео.html
Honestly, I had to watch it like 0.5x speed to understand the situation
With both sides constantly stealing a large amount of each other’s bravery, I’m surprised neither of them are spamming bravery to HP attacks, better spend that bravery in depleting their health than use half-assed bravery attacks that only barely increase you own bravery pool and risk losing it to the opponent’s bravery pool
depending on the character the transition to hp attack can leave you open most notably with Cloud
HP attacks are slow
Bravery attacks are fast
I don't know if Exdeath is really good. I've been working on it. Exdeath required timings on Block to Make things of his skill useful.
I would say he was a bigger menace in Dissidia 1 just because there were less systems to use against him.
Also it, in my opinion, heavily depends on which version you play since there are (sometimes huge) differences between the japanese version and the ones the rest of the world has gotten (for example Cloud being much weaker in Dissidia 1 NA/EU than JP). But overall he should be a strong character throughout all versions one can play with an somewhat unorthodox learning curve since he deviates rather heavily from the rest of the cast.
We need a true follow up to this game
you play a mean Cloud, kudos
Wow this is how it is in online mode🔥👀😳 nicee🔥🔥🔥
I think I hear bravely default from this
What better than the new dissidia
Sasori3Ace agree. But only cause this is 1v1 friendly and the other is 3v3 kinda hard to do all this on 3v3 while balancing
Saucyandrew Nah theres shit animation and HUD and clunky feels
@@mitigamespro8757 i can get th HUD but animation was made fine.
Yeah this old dissidia is so much better
How do you get Aerith as an assist? I'd forgotten how and was never able to.
2 years later*
DLC bonus for buying the demo.
What kinda Sephiroth player doesn't spam Shadow Flare
The same kind of player that doesn't use Brawl Meta Knight.
Integrity.
What are the name of these songs?
They are from the Game nbravely default
@@nakeou thank you
Very nice. The only problem is that there's a severe lack of Gilgamesh. I'm sure that was just a huge mistake, that you feel bad about making to this day. But be more careful next time~!
best battle system i though.. i would love to buy it on playstore
Why not use EXP to HP? That has saved my ass many times😕
I use EXP to EX Force on Squall since my whole build revolves around playing in EX mode - my character get's ridiculously strong during it , and having EXP to Force keeps me in that state for longer. If they use EXP to Bravery, that saves them from instantly being broken. That's my best guess as to why they didn't :)
When people play Ultemecia in tournaments and think they're good. Glad to see her get get smoked by that Sephi.
Sephiroth is also a top tier. Just not an SS++ Tier. Sephiroth is S tier. Still a god but not as insane.
@Charlie Reeder shes op. maybe i just suck( tidus, cloud, sephiroth main) but i always have trouble against her, evenif shes a bot.
That ultimecia was garboooo, Literally can't stop hitting buttons she should've just focused on dodging and setplaying using her 4 tracking missiles that have perfect homing then time your judgement (Doesn't matter if it hits or not) it's unblockable if you time it correctly
Makes me miss playing this on my psp that darn Kuja assist tho really annoying on when playing with a good player on multiplayer
They had roxas theme in this installment I never knew
One of the best games!!!
I still dont understand how square can screw up this best fighting game
I never though Exdeath is broken in this game. Dayum.
Hey can we play or do another tournament?I play on a emulator but we can use hamachi to play online!.We can also talk on discord.
EXCLUSIVEOn30FPS FPS How? Hamachi is an emu?
まくしえんMcshane• No is like a program that allow us to play it with an emulator but still play online.You can add me on discord if you want:Lunar Cypher#6068
@@hippo_playzz8967 Is it on pc or Mobile?..
@@hippo_playzz8967 Is it on pc or Mobile?..
まくしえんMcshane• pc
God its so anime I love it
Wtf how you air dashing like that
so exdeath is a big mind game
I was expecting that no one would like Chase anyway lol
That Exdeath in the first match was somehow one of the most competent yet clueless players I've seen from these VODs, use your assists dawg what are you doing.
Please remaster this on a current gen console or pc, fuk the God awful NT version
This is how you do an arena fighter
Exdeath on crack
song names?
I dont know the name but i think is the Bravely Default's soundtrack. I love it
@@animeboss6590 the first song is from crisis core
@@cg123ize I didnt mean the first one
The last one is my fav! Its The Other Promise from the Kingdom Hearts 2 Soundtrack. I listen to the 30 minute extended version almost every day. (Yeah, I have no life, don't judge!)
this exdeath is funny lol
. . . someone needs to take the drugs and caffeine away from these guys . . .
Reeeeeally cheap Sephy you got there...
lmaoooo
012 sucks they weakened the block skills for cloud...back then exdeath can block clouds ex mode attacks...but both end up stunned
外付けBGMうるさ
Too many 012 people complaining about NT here. NT wasn't a bad idea and the gameplay wasn't bad either. Gundam MBON/XB2 still has a shit ton of people play it so the team arena gameplay formula isn't the problem. It's extremely underrated even. NT lost its community because too many 012 players didn't want to adapt to a better balanced game. Team synergy and map awareness >>>>>>>>>> any slow campy aerial combat 012 revolves around.
Equipment also has no place in multiplayer. It's the same reason Kid Icarus Uprising didn't take off competitively. In a campaign, they're great. In multiplayer, it convolutes niches and requires a boatload of unnecessary knowledge checks and hard counters. You end up micromanaging bans and take away the freedom of customization anyway. It more often than not pigeon holes a character into 3 moves with massive stat crutches rather than displaying actual skill in a mirror match. The lack of homogenization makes actual competition weaker.
NT didn't do anything wrong. The Dissidia community was just more close minded than the producers thought.
Lol
I'd mop the floor with these noobs none of you would last 2 minutes against me this is all I play for the psp
Andrew Mills imagine being this stuck up ^
@@scrappaper1418 fr what is this dude talking about haha