I dig ur content and ive been trying to replicate other polyrhthms u show by feel instead of this. How would i do a 5 against 7 for instance, using this method? Also can i encourage u create longer videos to practise along to? The longer the better tbh but 10 minutes is a decent length. An hour is ideal. This is really mind-expanding stuff here
I think at that point you probably have to just get used to bigger rhythms like quints and septs which there isn’t really a shortcut to doing (as far as I’m aware)
In my experience, dividing into powers of two (particular on 2s or on 4s) or into 3rds is pretty trivial, so 2:3, 3:2, 2:4, 4:2, 3:4, and 4:3 are all pretty intuitive. 6ths and, to a lesser extent, 9ths and 12ths can also be done reasonably easy. Where it gets hard is where one or both have prime factors other than 2 or 3, particularly if one isn’t a divisor for the other and neither of them is 2. Think 4:5, 10:3, or 5:7. Generally, if one of them is 2, 3, or 4, it’s easier to do it if that is the second (so 5:4 is easier than 4:5). Our brains just aren’t as good at subdividing by anything other than 2 or 3, but we can repeat that, especially for 2, and we can combine them, so subdividing by 3, powers of 2, or 3 times powers of 2 (as well as, to a lesser extent, powers of 3 or products of powers of 2 with powers of 3) is generally intuitive, but mix in any primes other than 2 or 3 and it gets a lot harder. That said, the main beat could still be just about any number we can easily count to without losing track; the problem comes when subdividing the individual beats into quintuplets, septuplets, decuplets, or groups of 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 20, 21, etc. rather than eighth notes, triplets, sixteenth notes, or, to a lesser extent, sextuplets, thirty-second notes, nonuplets, groups of 12, or sixty-fourth notes, (It also tends to fall off for larger numbers as it becomes harder to keep track of them. Generally, we are really only fully intuitive subdividing beats into eighth notes, triplets, and sixteenth notes; larger numbers whose only prime factors are 2 and/or 3 end up with divisions so fine that it’s hard for our brains to distinguish between, say, the 5th and the 6th notes of each group.) Obviously, with enough training, you can surpass these limits on our intuition, but it’s nowhere near as easy for us. Plus, generally, there are few instances where you need to precisely subdivide a beat by anything other than a power of 2 between 2 and 8, 3, 6, or maybe 9, 12, or 16, with 2, 3, and 4 being by far the most common subdivisions followed by 6 and 8. Most other cases you subdivide by other numbers, it’s basically just a scale to a particular note, so getting the beat precisely right there isn’t usually necessary. Any other time where you’re doing a polyrhythm that involves something with prime factors other than 2 or 3, you can have that be the main beat and then subdivide _that_ based on something that only has the prime factors 2 and/or 3, most commonly 2, 3, or 4.
The same reason the one on the right was playing 2 beats and the one on the left playing 3 beats earlier. That’s just how he does the polyrhythms. The first number (from left to right) is how many beats per measure the right hand does and is the secondary beat (being calculated), while the second number is how many beats per measure the left hand does and is the primary beat he builds off of. I’m not really sure what you’re asking, honestly.
Yeah it confused me at first too! But I rewatched it like 5 times and realized that the numbers are just there to tell us the set up of the rhythm. They don’t match the hand underneath them
if you can play these two, you can play almost any song that'll ever be thrown at you. all that 8/11 stuff is just for showing off and impressing the nerds who even know what it is - and most that barely even sounds good
Bro forget the drums that ship has sailed you got it im not even gonna bother. I was just thinking after messing around with bass and guitar “well there’s no complex finger movements it’s just rhythm how bad could it be”
@@chsoccaerstar42_37 He did it a weird way that ended up making it so the hands did end up being switched but he was still technically playing the correct polyrhythm.
Time to play a 31/78 polyrhythm
Wow that definitely made stuff simpler, thanks!
NOW I GET IT WHAT. I have never heard a single good explanation bro thank you 😂
That’s cool, I’ve never thought of that!
bro this guy is a fucking GENIUS
This is the video where you explain it! I didn't know you finally made it.
Genius. I can almost do it immediately
I dig ur content and ive been trying to replicate other polyrhthms u show by feel instead of this. How would i do a 5 against 7 for instance, using this method?
Also can i encourage u create longer videos to practise along to? The longer the better tbh but 10 minutes is a decent length. An hour is ideal. This is really mind-expanding stuff here
I think at that point you probably have to just get used to bigger rhythms like quints and septs which there isn’t really a shortcut to doing (as far as I’m aware)
In my experience, dividing into powers of two (particular on 2s or on 4s) or into 3rds is pretty trivial, so 2:3, 3:2, 2:4, 4:2, 3:4, and 4:3 are all pretty intuitive. 6ths and, to a lesser extent, 9ths and 12ths can also be done reasonably easy. Where it gets hard is where one or both have prime factors other than 2 or 3, particularly if one isn’t a divisor for the other and neither of them is 2. Think 4:5, 10:3, or 5:7. Generally, if one of them is 2, 3, or 4, it’s easier to do it if that is the second (so 5:4 is easier than 4:5). Our brains just aren’t as good at subdividing by anything other than 2 or 3, but we can repeat that, especially for 2, and we can combine them, so subdividing by 3, powers of 2, or 3 times powers of 2 (as well as, to a lesser extent, powers of 3 or products of powers of 2 with powers of 3) is generally intuitive, but mix in any primes other than 2 or 3 and it gets a lot harder. That said, the main beat could still be just about any number we can easily count to without losing track; the problem comes when subdividing the individual beats into quintuplets, septuplets, decuplets, or groups of 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 20, 21, etc. rather than eighth notes, triplets, sixteenth notes, or, to a lesser extent, sextuplets, thirty-second notes, nonuplets, groups of 12, or sixty-fourth notes, (It also tends to fall off for larger numbers as it becomes harder to keep track of them. Generally, we are really only fully intuitive subdividing beats into eighth notes, triplets, and sixteenth notes; larger numbers whose only prime factors are 2 and/or 3 end up with divisions so fine that it’s hard for our brains to distinguish between, say, the 5th and the 6th notes of each group.)
Obviously, with enough training, you can surpass these limits on our intuition, but it’s nowhere near as easy for us. Plus, generally, there are few instances where you need to precisely subdivide a beat by anything other than a power of 2 between 2 and 8, 3, 6, or maybe 9, 12, or 16, with 2, 3, and 4 being by far the most common subdivisions followed by 6 and 8. Most other cases you subdivide by other numbers, it’s basically just a scale to a particular note, so getting the beat precisely right there isn’t usually necessary. Any other time where you’re doing a polyrhythm that involves something with prime factors other than 2 or 3, you can have that be the main beat and then subdivide _that_ based on something that only has the prime factors 2 and/or 3, most commonly 2, 3, or 4.
Why was the one on the right playing 4 beats and the one on the left playing 3 at the end?
The same reason the one on the right was playing 2 beats and the one on the left playing 3 beats earlier. That’s just how he does the polyrhythms. The first number (from left to right) is how many beats per measure the right hand does and is the secondary beat (being calculated), while the second number is how many beats per measure the left hand does and is the primary beat he builds off of.
I’m not really sure what you’re asking, honestly.
because
Yeah it confused me at first too! But I rewatched it like 5 times and realized that the numbers are just there to tell us the set up of the rhythm. They don’t match the hand underneath them
Why does it aound like Stravinsky's Rite of Spring?
DONT PULL THESE MAGICAL SHENANIGANS HOW DO YOU JUST DROP IT I’ve been playing forever and can’t even keep a beat and you just say oh yeah btw drop it
Just dont do the other notes and only do the accented notes. Its kinda simple
0:37 am I stupid or did he switch the 2 and the 3?
if you can play these two, you can play almost any song that'll ever be thrown at you. all that 8/11 stuff is just for showing off and impressing the nerds who even know what it is - and most that barely even sounds good
i guess we are just used to the more commonly used rhythms
@@wtz_under they're more common because they sound best
How does this work on 9/2?
How to do 15/16?
Pandimelam
Bro forget the drums that ship has sailed you got it im not even gonna bother. I was just thinking after messing around with bass and guitar “well there’s no complex finger movements it’s just rhythm how bad could it be”
This is just the nerdy stuff lol! It’s never too late to start🥁
go slow. your body will memorize it for you. same as learning most things
Your hands were switched
No they weren't
@@chsoccaerstar42_37 He did it a weird way that ended up making it so the hands did end up being switched but he was still technically playing the correct polyrhythm.
They definitely were dude@@chsoccaerstar42_37