Story 1: parents are hypocrites. Dude violated 3 comandments, 2 capital sins, and in a way that defies the fundamentals of the faith.... so them sticking up for him is going against their own professions.
Story 1: Even before being ousted for the cameras, he had a case against him for invasion of privacy already. The cameras were just the nail in the coffin.
As a Christian myself, parents in story 1 are absolute hypocrites and I hate them for it. If her brother is a creep, the parents have a duty to protect their daughter who is the victim in this story.
Story 2: this was SO MUCH COMMON in the gay/lesbian community during 1980s and 1990s! Gay men would marry women and then divorce after having kids so they could raise the children with their same sex SOs. Some would be civilized and be clear to the women to have an agreement of co-parenting, others would specifically choose women of lower income to then pay good lawyers to have sole custody with visitations. Lesbians would simply have a one night stand and then raise the kid with her wives.
My mom actually had a run in with a gay guy who asked her to marry him as a cover for him. He was upfront about it, and told her she could sleep with any guy she wanted. But obviously she didn't go for that. Nice guy according to my mom, and wonders how he's doing nowadays. I also had a lesbian lady I worked with awhile ago who has a son. She had him with a boyfriend, but he unfortunately died in some work accident though when she was still pregnant with her son. Now she recently became single from her long-term relationship from her girlfriend. I don't know why I thought they were cool together 🤷.
The 80s and 90s were a different time people would get disowned beaten and killed for being queer hell if you were with the same sex you called them your sibling.
Yeah I dont think this is exactly the same as this guy made his bed and he has to lie in it, of course I feel bad for the wife. But this guy basically had a trash family. If they were more open and accepting, he wouldnt have been pressured and conditioned that hie is the problem, and he has to be normal.
First story: Honestly, the parents could potentially be excommunicated from the Church......... depending on IF they have one of the good priest/bishop. I hope that OP can recover emotionally.
It’s honestly sad we have to state this constant because there are actual people who defend cheating if your partner was gay, lesbian or whatever like tf? Cheating is cheating, regardless of gender and sexuality. If you get into a relationship and unsure about your sexuality, then I’m sorry but that’s on you
Story 2: I am absolutely going with nta here. Was it wrong for OP to say the truth behind the divorce since it was a personal matter? Probably a bit. But since OP was the one who was being accused as the person solely responsible for the divorce, even when it wasn’t her fault, she needed to set the record straight. Because her exmil was accusing her of something that the ex husband lied to his mother about. So she deserved to know that the real reason behind the divorce was because OP didn’t deserve to be yelled at for something she didn’t do or say. And the ex husband was the biggest ah here. Because not only was he cheating on OP even before they got married, intending on using her just to get kids, but also he decided to tell a lie to his family about the reason behind the divorce and made it seem like OP was the problem because he didn’t want his very religious family to know what the divorce was really about. He could have just made up a lie like “they fell out of love” or something like that where it would seem like the divorce was mutually agreed on. But instead out of fear for his family’s judgment towards him, and possible hatred towards OP for finding out that he was only with her because he thought that she could give him children, decided to lie about everything and painted him as the victim and OP as the villain. He deserves whatever he got afterwards and hopefully OP will find someone who genuinely loved her and won’t use her for children.
S2: OP, stop acting like you did a bad thing cause you’re pissing me off. He may have grown up in a very overly controlling house-like cult, but he cheated on you! It may not have been the family’s business, but they needed to know before they try to push him on some other poor girl. I’d say he reap what he sew and can whine and squeal all he wants cause he ruined his own life. His mom is a massive arsyhole for saying you need to be more beautiful in order to keep your husband around more and cheating is perfectly fine if the guy does it.
Cameras have me concerned, invasion of privacy and trying to play omniscient God is bad enough, but did police check what he did with the footage? Took care of himself to it? Made a side hustle to earn pocket money from his own sister's nudes? Streamed it wholesale for any creep to see, free or not?
I'd listened this story on another channel but was 100% certain it was a peeve between 2 BROTHERS that went nuclear. The harassed sibling being a GIRL makes the whole situation 10.000x more creepy and revolting!
Story 2: 1. Did not have joint finances. 2. Financially independent or employed. These two points make starting a new life without a partner so much easier and better.
As a queer person I normally find outing someone to be an extremely disgusting act, but story 2 might one of the only exceptions to this. So instead of cutting off the family that will never accept him and his sexuality, he instead decided to string along a woman to act as his unknowing cover wife/surrogate while he spends time with his bf. Screw him
Outting someone is dangerous, but the ex was literally putting himself in that situation. It would be different if he came out to her after the marriage and wanted to grow as a person but he literally just wanted to look like the good Mormon boy to his family while also being with his lover. And poor OP was just supposed to take the abuse from family? They were telling her it was her fault for him cheating which was already fucked up but was she just supposed to grin and take all that abuse while he was seen as perfect? If the ex didn't want to be found out he should have just not married her in the first place.
It's amazing what lies some holy people will tell, in order to fake high status in their church. It's like the 10 commandments and Christ like behavior are only allowed in certain situations. I often joke "When will you people be Christ like to money changers?"
Story 2 - He doesn't have the right to lie to everyone to get whatever he wants only to be using her like toilet paper or a shield to take all his relatives crap.
Story 2: OP’s ex was in the wrong for using OP as a beard without her knowledge. OP’s ex deserved to be outed as a cheating POS and all the consequences that followed from that reveal. OP also owes the ex nothing as he lied to her and roped her into a fraudulent marriage and was cheating on her the whole time. He has zero right to complain that the consequences of his actions are coming back to haunt him. The ex mil is a monster and hopefully develops a conscience.
1st story reminds why I worked so hard to find a way to stop remote access from my computer turns out Microsoft removed the feature I used to do that after windows 10 so I have no idea how to do it anymore.
I don't agree with outing someone's sexuality because it's no ones place except the person coming out BUT when you make it another person's business, betray and use them to cover ur sexuality then it's pretty fair
Story 2: Yeah I dont think this is exactly the same as this guy made his bed and he has to lie in it, of course I feel bad for the wife. But this guy basically had a trash family. If they were more open and accepting, he wouldnt have been pressured and conditioned that hie is the problem, and he has to be normal.
Story 2: "Conservative Christians" should be aware that King James VI & I (the one who arranged to have the Bible translated) was a gay man who only got married due to social pressure to have children to carry on his dynasty. His wife was not informed in advance of his orientation.
No, he wasn't, he just didn't want to get married. Which is understandable, women were mostly terrible at that point in time. Take it from a history major, and don't spout out stuff that only aligns with your point of view, take in the other factors as well.
@@BPJD2004 So, History has taught you that women were mostly terrible in King James's time, and that he was not gay? You should ask for your money back from whatever college you went to.
Not being a "History major" at an American college, I have not been taught that women were mostly terrible during King James's time. John Knox may have said that in his "First Blast of the Trumpet against the Monstrous Regiment of Women," but we are not compelled to go along with either of their hang-ups.
Story 1 OP puts a lot of blame on the system when a good chunk of her misery was due to her isolating her self from people who cared about her…the system certainly wasn’t helping much but her own available system was cut off by her own actions, which she admitted to herself. Let that be a lesson to everyone to not cut off your own hands just because you were punched once!
@@ugojlachapelle It's not victim blaming, it's the truth. The system can't help you if you refuse to help yourself. Not saying she didn't have a valid reason to be depressed, but isolating herself like she did did her no favors.
Story 1, fake. There was a story exactly like this year's ago except the brother died in a car accident. That is the only difference, everything else is exactly the same. Do better.
@@Only1199 I'd be happy to, the original story was 4-5 years ago. It originally was in the youtube channel Mark Naration and Lost genre. It is literally the exact, I repeat the exact same story minus how the brother died, which was in a car accident. Look it up.
@@Only1199I'd be happy to, the original story was 4-5 years ago. It was on mark narration and lost genre. It is the exact, I repeat the exact same story, except in the original the brother died in a car accident. Other than that literally the exact same story.
Story 1: parents are hypocrites. Dude violated 3 comandments, 2 capital sins, and in a way that defies the fundamentals of the faith.... so them sticking up for him is going against their own professions.
Unfortunately, that's how Reddit sees all conservatives. Doesn't help that the nutjobs are the ones you notice in the end.
The parents faim themselves conservative catholics. Let's list all the violations they committed under that banner of self righteousness.
Story 1: Even before being ousted for the cameras, he had a case against him for invasion of privacy already. The cameras were just the nail in the coffin.
As a Christian myself, parents in story 1 are absolute hypocrites and I hate them for it. If her brother is a creep, the parents have a duty to protect their daughter who is the victim in this story.
Story 2: this was SO MUCH COMMON in the gay/lesbian community during 1980s and 1990s! Gay men would marry women and then divorce after having kids so they could raise the children with their same sex SOs. Some would be civilized and be clear to the women to have an agreement of co-parenting, others would specifically choose women of lower income to then pay good lawyers to have sole custody with visitations. Lesbians would simply have a one night stand and then raise the kid with her wives.
My mom actually had a run in with a gay guy who asked her to marry him as a cover for him. He was upfront about it, and told her she could sleep with any guy she wanted. But obviously she didn't go for that. Nice guy according to my mom, and wonders how he's doing nowadays.
I also had a lesbian lady I worked with awhile ago who has a son. She had him with a boyfriend, but he unfortunately died in some work accident though when she was still pregnant with her son. Now she recently became single from her long-term relationship from her girlfriend. I don't know why I thought they were cool together 🤷.
Goes to show that homophobia creates more problems than it solves. Fucking tragic.
The 80s and 90s were a different time people would get disowned beaten and killed for being queer hell if you were with the same sex you called them your sibling.
Yeah I dont think this is exactly the same as this guy made his bed and he has to lie in it, of course I feel bad for the wife.
But this guy basically had a trash family. If they were more open and accepting, he wouldnt have been pressured and conditioned that hie is the problem, and he has to be normal.
Right it’s like they’ve always had no morals lol
2nd story - *NTA*
Gay or otherwise, Cheating is cheating.
He lied to you for years on end for no other reason than his own convenience.
TA - being straight is unnatural
1st story yep that's karma right there
*Karma farming
Grow up@@VR00100
First story: Honestly, the parents could potentially be excommunicated from the Church......... depending on IF they have one of the good priest/bishop.
I hope that OP can recover emotionally.
NTA for outing a gay cheating bf
Cheating is cheating regardless.
@@lindah3803 exactly
It’s honestly sad we have to state this constant because there are actual people who defend cheating if your partner was gay, lesbian or whatever like tf? Cheating is cheating, regardless of gender and sexuality. If you get into a relationship and unsure about your sexuality, then I’m sorry but that’s on you
Nope. Not at all.
@@mr.dickbutttheog2064 If someone is getting into/ is in a relationship,reveal from the beginning that you're questioning. It's best to talk it out.
NTA - an outburst happens. He basiaclly was creepy as hell and what he did was wrong on tons of levels. thank god you didn't get pregnant.
Imagine not being able to trust your own sibling (I only have one), or parents.
the phony religious gonad donors are the biggest problems
Op needs to get some serious therapy.
Story 2: I am absolutely going with nta here. Was it wrong for OP to say the truth behind the divorce since it was a personal matter? Probably a bit. But since OP was the one who was being accused as the person solely responsible for the divorce, even when it wasn’t her fault, she needed to set the record straight. Because her exmil was accusing her of something that the ex husband lied to his mother about. So she deserved to know that the real reason behind the divorce was because OP didn’t deserve to be yelled at for something she didn’t do or say. And the ex husband was the biggest ah here. Because not only was he cheating on OP even before they got married, intending on using her just to get kids, but also he decided to tell a lie to his family about the reason behind the divorce and made it seem like OP was the problem because he didn’t want his very religious family to know what the divorce was really about. He could have just made up a lie like “they fell out of love” or something like that where it would seem like the divorce was mutually agreed on. But instead out of fear for his family’s judgment towards him, and possible hatred towards OP for finding out that he was only with her because he thought that she could give him children, decided to lie about everything and painted him as the victim and OP as the villain. He deserves whatever he got afterwards and hopefully OP will find someone who genuinely loved her and won’t use her for children.
S2: OP, stop acting like you did a bad thing cause you’re pissing me off. He may have grown up in a very overly controlling house-like cult, but he cheated on you! It may not have been the family’s business, but they needed to know before they try to push him on some other poor girl. I’d say he reap what he sew and can whine and squeal all he wants cause he ruined his own life. His mom is a massive arsyhole for saying you need to be more beautiful in order to keep your husband around more and cheating is perfectly fine if the guy does it.
Also he lied to shift the blame onto her.
Cameras have me concerned, invasion of privacy and trying to play omniscient God is bad enough, but did police check what he did with the footage? Took care of himself to it? Made a side hustle to earn pocket money from his own sister's nudes? Streamed it wholesale for any creep to see, free or not?
1st story I love it when karma strikes hope OP has a great life and never speaks to those AH parents again
Story 1:
*“We Can't Expect God To Do All The Work !!!”* ~ Joshua Graham,**Fallout New Vegas** _Honest Hearts_ DLC
What in the Sweet Home Alabama!?
I'd listened this story on another channel but was 100% certain it was a peeve between 2 BROTHERS that went nuclear. The harassed sibling being a GIRL makes the whole situation 10.000x more creepy and revolting!
Dawg I screamed with joy when she said he was terminal
Story 1- @12:23
OP GIVES ZERO F**KS
Story 2:
1. Did not have joint finances.
2. Financially independent or employed.
These two points make starting a new life without a partner so much easier and better.
1st story, she started reading Worm lol.
Story 2:
OP = NTA
*Cheating Is STILL Cheating !!!*
Holy sh….. 1 story was insane…. And scary….
As a queer person I normally find outing someone to be an extremely disgusting act, but story 2 might one of the only exceptions to this. So instead of cutting off the family that will never accept him and his sexuality, he instead decided to string along a woman to act as his unknowing cover wife/surrogate while he spends time with his bf. Screw him
1st story, Ding Dong the witch is dead.
2nd story, I feel bad for the guy but he made his bed.
Damn Cancer took a W today.
OP is NTA regarding story 2.
Outting someone is dangerous, but the ex was literally putting himself in that situation. It would be different if he came out to her after the marriage and wanted to grow as a person but he literally just wanted to look like the good Mormon boy to his family while also being with his lover.
And poor OP was just supposed to take the abuse from family? They were telling her it was her fault for him cheating which was already fucked up but was she just supposed to grin and take all that abuse while he was seen as perfect?
If the ex didn't want to be found out he should have just not married her in the first place.
It's amazing what lies some holy people will tell, in order to fake high status in their church. It's like the 10 commandments and Christ like behavior are only allowed in certain situations. I often joke "When will you people be Christ like to money changers?"
Story 2 - He doesn't have the right to lie to everyone to get whatever he wants only to be using her like toilet paper or a shield to take all his relatives crap.
Big brother is watching 🔭👀
Story 1: Definitely disturbing but title calls OPs brother a pedo. She’s an adult.
Also the parents only contacted her twice and she never picked up
Story 2: OP’s ex was in the wrong for using OP as a beard without her knowledge. OP’s ex deserved to be outed as a cheating POS and all the consequences that followed from that reveal. OP also owes the ex nothing as he lied to her and roped her into a fraudulent marriage and was cheating on her the whole time. He has zero right to complain that the consequences of his actions are coming back to haunt him. The ex mil is a monster and hopefully develops a conscience.
1st story reminds why I worked so hard to find a way to stop remote access from my computer turns out Microsoft removed the feature I used to do that after windows 10 so I have no idea how to do it anymore.
I don't agree with outing someone's sexuality because it's no ones place except the person coming out BUT when you make it another person's business, betray and use them to cover ur sexuality then it's pretty fair
Hell nah, I think it's fine she outed her cheating ex. He's a shitty person
Story 2: Yeah I dont think this is exactly the same as this guy made his bed and he has to lie in it, of course I feel bad for the wife.
But this guy basically had a trash family. If they were more open and accepting, he wouldnt have been pressured and conditioned that hie is the problem, and he has to be normal.
Unditt is awesome ❤❤❤
First story: Conservative Christian family. Not surprising
Not all Christians are like this these people are just sick and twisted and they use the Bible in their own twisted way which is sick
Hate filled edgy atheist dbag lumping an entire group together. Not surprising.
I’m in a conservative Christian family, I know plenty of other conservative Christian families and none of them are like this
Bruh my family is Christian and we are disgusted by the parents actions. Not all Christians are like that
No true Christian supports such barbaric behavior don’t shove us next to those animals
Story 2: "Conservative Christians" should be aware that King James VI & I (the one who arranged to have the Bible translated) was a gay man who only got married due to social pressure to have children to carry on his dynasty. His wife was not informed in advance of his orientation.
No, he wasn't, he just didn't want to get married. Which is understandable, women were mostly terrible at that point in time. Take it from a history major, and don't spout out stuff that only aligns with your point of view, take in the other factors as well.
@@BPJD2004 So, History has taught you that women were mostly terrible in King James's time, and that he was not gay? You should ask for your money back from whatever college you went to.
Not being a "History major" at an American college, I have not been taught that women were mostly terrible during King James's time. John Knox may have said that in his "First Blast of the Trumpet against the Monstrous Regiment of Women," but we are not compelled to go along with either of their hang-ups.
Story 1: I feel bad for OP bunch once she got her documents back, the rest is on her for not taking control of her own life.
An actual conservative would have disowned the son....
Story 1 OP puts a lot of blame on the system when a good chunk of her misery was due to her isolating her self from people who cared about her…the system certainly wasn’t helping much but her own available system was cut off by her own actions, which she admitted to herself. Let that be a lesson to everyone to not cut off your own hands just because you were punched once!
Hey just a tip. People that care about you wouldn't take the side of a pedophile.
Victim blaming much here! 😡
@@ugojlachapelle It's not victim blaming, it's the truth. The system can't help you if you refuse to help yourself. Not saying she didn't have a valid reason to be depressed, but isolating herself like she did did her no favors.
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Story 1, fake. There was a story exactly like this year's ago except the brother died in a car accident. That is the only difference, everything else is exactly the same. Do better.
Who cares.
Your one of those 🤡🤡 :" I don't like this story therefore it's fake "....
Care to back that up with evidence?
Come on show us that it’s fake. Do better.
@@Only1199 I'd be happy to, the original story was 4-5 years ago. It originally was in the youtube channel Mark Naration and Lost genre. It is literally the exact, I repeat the exact same story minus how the brother died, which was in a car accident. Look it up.
@@Only1199I'd be happy to, the original story was 4-5 years ago. It was on mark narration and lost genre. It is the exact, I repeat the exact same story, except in the original the brother died in a car accident. Other than that literally the exact same story.
These stole/destroyed/hid someone’s passport stories are far too common on here. Do ppl not realize that’s a freaking felony?
Some people may know, but how many crimes do people get away with?
Story 2 so nta what did he expect to happen 😂