What Happened to the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel?
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Correction: the Book of Mormon makes no reference to where the lost ten tribes went and only details people of the tribe of Judah and Joseph traveling to the americas
Correction: As an orthodox Jewish person I Need to correct some points: In the story about Dvora, the name Gilad is not a name of a tribe.
Gilad is the name of the land along the Jordan River at the eastern side of the river. The inhabitants of the Gilad are 2½ tribes.
Also if you'll read the Bible in Hebrew you'll see that during the Shoftim years, the tribes lived each tribe to its own most of the time and only get together in danger or for holidays.
So when we look at it from this perspective we can understand that the tribe under attack will call the closest tribes and not the tribes who lived couple of days (walking distance) away.
Read Jeremiah 31 New Covenant and you'll find out who the House of Israel is. They were given something that the House of Judah was not. Once you figure it out, you will be shocked.
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Could you imagine searching for a lost tribe, having everybody telling you that you're wrong, and then finding an extent group of religiously Jewish people exactly where you believed you would? What a feeling that would be.
In America of course
@@Journeyman107 what?
@@zacharyhenderson2902 You can find them where power and riches is to be found..
Keep imagining because it hasn't happened for thousands of years and chances "you" are just wrong
@@zacharyhenderson2902 My son
It always sounded weird to me when reading about the Samaritans in the Bible. It came off as the author was trying really hard to convince me that the Samaritans were in no way related to the 10 tribes, but he also wasn't doing a good job of it.
Here's more info on the lost tribes. Enjoy ruclips.net/video/TeYKFY9c87Y/видео.html
Samaritans are coverts they are not the 12/13 tribes.
@@lobsterbalelegesse9919 The Samaritan Israelites have been in israel for thousands of years and they have had their dna tested.The tests show that the Samaritans Israelites have similar DNA to many Diaspora groups who live in Israel. Shen et al Reconstruction of the Matralineges and Patralineges of Samaritan Israelites or blog.23and me genetics of the Samaritan Israelites.
@@lobsterbalelegesse9919 The Samaritan Israelites are from Manasseh Ephraim and Levi
I had always thought the Samaritans were mixed race Jewish and their Babylonian(?) captors.
Or maybe the Israelites eventually returning from captivity and intermarrying the people that settled there in their absence.
I think my favorite thing in your videos if none of it comes across as judgmental about different beliefs. You’re studying religion/culture as part of a peoples and I love it.
Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.
It is really good, and helps people understand this stuff. I think most scholars when they truly get into it, either feel 'nothing new under the sun' or perhaps are spiritual themselves.
The most stiff-necked people against religion in my experience are American Christians, to them it matters so much what people believe or do differently that they have to say something against it. That and your run of the mill undergrad atheist who's experience with religion is their asshole parents.
mom said it's my turn to be a lost tribe of Israel
Not if your white
The name “lost” makes people want to find them. They were lost as in dead, vanished, absorbed. Some of them became Samaritans
Here they are ruclips.net/video/TeYKFY9c87Y/видео.html
Technically they were all lost, at least for 40 years.
They are pastun tribe in afganistan now
Damn spoiler alert much
I think the vast majority of them likely became samaritans
Great video Dr. Henry, though I did have one issue with the insistence of this being an "unprecedented" phenomenon. What we see happening with the legend of the 10 tribes is actually quite a common occurrence in the historical record. As non literate people came into contact with literary cultures and adopted their view of history, they crafted new legends to place themselves within that new history. The Romans did it by tracing themselves back to the Trojans, as did the Irish in the Book of Invasions. Later, in West and East Africa, royal dynasties also crafted legends that connected themselves with Muhammad and his close followers in order to assert their own legitimacy as Islamic rulers. Modern day Chinese Christians even do something similar by making the 3 Magi in the Jesus birth story Chinese. It's all about trying to make sense of one's own people in the context of a foreign narrative.
So did the British and the Franks, both of whom have epics tracing their origin back to escapees from the fall of Troy. These are not part of their Germanic heritage, but came much later from educated writers. Geoffrey of Monmouth's 12th century History of the Kings of Britain traces the people of Celtic Britain back to a descendant of Aeneas named "Brutus."
@UCx3gsrPNyQiwbxmIMM82oIQ The change would be much appreciated even if you consider it to be self-evident. I simply don’t want Muhammadans thinking that their part in our history was something it wasn’t. If anything even the small part such people have played has, on the whole, affected this continent negatively. Proud nations have been turned into rubble under the explosive savagery of Muhammadanism.
It would be nice to see the evidence that dynasty’s in west Africa were doing that! I don’t doubt it but I suspect you’re overplaying just how much it happened. Interesting that you say nothing about North Africans who were so thoroughly conquered by Meffistanis that they now call themselves Arabs and couldn’t tell you their own ethnic group if you asked them 😭
Thousands of years ago Pyramids were built all over the world. People in Egypt didn't know that people in South America even existed. What they all have in common is the gods came from the sky, the stars. If someone or something can come from the stars it's possible that people could go the other way. We all have different opinions but it's a fact that they all said their gods came from the sky.
@@glenngordon2352 lol is this your alt account Graham Hancock? Head on back to Ancient Aliens; I'm talking about actual history here.
@@bearlytamedmodels Is that right? Please explain.
Excellent video Dr. Henry, concise, precise and well-researched as usual. I suggest that you should make a video explaining and comparing the differences between the samaritan and the jewish pentateuch
1:48 Historical Origins of the Legend
8:43 The Samaritans
11:58 Eldad Hadani
12:50 The Book of Mormon
13:20 The Patriarchal Blessing
17:06 Research on Genealogies
Ok
Holy crap, I took dr Tobolowsky’s History and Religion of Ancient Israel class just to fill out credits in college and its what got me into religious studies. Small world I guess
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I don't know that we can say it's entirely unparalleled. The Romans had a myth that they were the descendants of the survivors of Troy after all.
A lot of Italians have Anatolian dna
Very informative episode, thank you for sharing.
There's a good reason why the tribe of Simeon isn't mentioned in Deuteronomy Chapter 33, that being that Jacob cursed Simeon's tribe and said they would be scattered within Israel, because of their violence and cruelty against the men of Shechem. By the book of Numbers, the tribe of Simeon is the smallest to leave Egypt. I think their absence is a sign of the fulfilment of Jacob's curse upon them.
that was Levi & Simeon it’s mentioned in Genesis that their violence was the reason why because they killed a whole city because of Dinah their sister being defiled
@@theerealbk9140 It was both for sure, for whatever reason, Levi’s tribe was spared it seems
The bottom line is, that the tribes of the Northern Kingdom were likely either assimilated into the Assyrian population which itself was quite diverse, fled to Judah, or fled to some other place nearby. The only thing that is "lost" are the minds of those pursuing the myth of the lost tribes of Israel.
Like he said in the video, Empires don't generally have the incentives or the resources to move entire nation worth of ready-made taxable peasantry.
They generally just take the shcolars and artisans to their capital.
The peasantry remained the same, even the crusaders didn't dismantle that rural peasantry of the region.
@@Brahmdagh The Assyrians did, and later the Romans did too. It was a good method for control. Resettling tribal groups were they had no local allegiance made them less likely to rebel,
Tbf tho it was reported that some of the exiled Samaritans moved to Greece in the 2nd century BCE but they weren't very popular at all
@@iqweaver naa historically speaking the Romans were the real first ethnic cleansers in the region. Pre-roman Classical era deportation would just be of elites who could galvanise the populous into revolting against them
I'd actually argue some of the "lost tribes" of Israel (i.e. people with Samaritan lineage) can be found in some northern Palestinian west bank villages. These are people who would've been forced to convert to Christianity especially under crusader rule or Islam after the Islamic conquest of the region as they unfortunately weren't seen as 'People of the Book' like Jews and Christians were. Surnames like al-Kahen (literally the arabicised version of the hebrew Cohen/priest) are a dead giveaway, for example. If they didn't keep that part of their identity and went 100% Muslim they'd have an actual arabic surname like al-Mulla or something.
I wonder if someday we discover aliens on another planet some people will still make the assumption that we discovered one of the lost tribes of Israel.
Absolutely
The children of Eliah ;)
There are some people practically doing that already and we haven't even found evidence of aliens yet. Never underestimate the capacity of the human imagination.
Oh absolutely. People already believe that gods themselves are aliens, so I wouldn't be surprised
@@pennyforyourthots Yeah Enoch was supposedly abducted by aliens.🙄
They're not lost They're scattered throughout throughout the world read Isaiah 11: 11-12
We're still here though lost in minds ❤
Listening to this while finishing my late night assignments. Love how interesting the topics that never even cross my mind can be.
The Babylonians apparently did the same thing when they deported the Hebrews to Babylon, they only took the elites and those who had certain skill sets.
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Showing diversity of thought and skill is important, not race or color. Meritocracy is the only way to survive, since we don't have to worry about survival of the fittest any longer.
It would be impractical and pointless to do any more than that. Imagine the logistics and resources it would take to transport an ENTIRE kingdom's worth of people. Even today it would be a massive undertaking.
@@porkadillo9752 Not really. The Trail of Tears was accomplished fairly cheaply. You'd be surprised how easy mass deportations can be done with just the right amount of political will, and these kingdoms of antiquity were much smaller. I'm not saying that this was what happened, just that it isn't as difficult as some people make it sound.
This was really informative
Thank you for real, documented facts.
An important piece missing from the video is that sometimes the 12 tribes include Levi, but sometimes he is missing, and Joseph is divided into Manasseh and Ephraim.
My branch of Judaism teaches that the former is a Theological division into 12, and the latter, a political one, since the Levites were Temple functionaries, and thus had an odd place in the political realm. I am sure other Jewish groups, and different Christian denoms have their own explanation.
No matter what, this is why you can have 10 lost tribes and have three left over (12-3=9) because the number 10 is based on the Split Joseph count.
Also, the Jewish view is that Simeon fled north after Rehoboam, and Benjamin took his place.
Also, Traditional Judaism has an interesting take that I'm surprised Dr. Henry didn't mention: Jeremiah brought members of the 10 Lost Tribes back to Judah during the reign of Josiah, though the majority of their population stayed "Lost", and thus all 12 tribes exist in Judaism today, but in the Second Temple period, these returned groups were adopted into Judah or Benjamin.
"Also, the Jewish view is that Simeon fled north after Rehoboam, and Benjamin took his place"
I am interested in this. Isaac Asimov (in-between science fiction stories) conjectured that Simeon was simply assimilated into Edom, like eastern Reuben into Moab and Ammon. Such Simeonites as didn't want Edom [or Egypt] simply married into Judah.
Asimov is like you and like me from the east. More like me (back then) and less like you Asimov didn't care for midrash.
So - where's the midrash?
There are actually 13 tribes, the 12 is from the original 12 sons.
Lol where are Levi’s made, why did Pilgrims get corn when the Bible says Ruth ate it for dinner?
@@usmcairbornedaddy3761 Not sure what translation you're using (how old its language) but "corn" used to mean "grain" not just "maise", just as "apple" meant "fruit".
The 12 tribes of Israel went to Africa 🌍
Thanks, this is a great work of research
Healthy sobering look onto tumultious legends and stories.
Thanks!
This is really good. I just showed my family your video on the Samaritans and this feels like a timely prequel.
Great episode! Always a good day when RFB uploads
Heea a great video on the 12 lost tribes ruclips.net/video/TeYKFY9c87Y/видео.html
Wonderful presentation! In astrotheological thinking, "12" represents the Zodiac, and the sun's "journey" through them usually represents God or a hero of God. Thus, 12 tribes of Israel, 12 helpers of Horus, 12 labors of Hercules, 12 prominent Gods in a Western pantheon. I believe Ishmael goes on to have 12 sons as well. This is probably why the ancient editors chose 12 as the number of tribes, as it confers a Divine order or plan providing an identity beyond self or tribe to bind people to.
Thank you clarifying Dubs .
I suppose there is a parallel with the way many countries in the ancient and medieval world claimed some sort of ancestral connection to Troy. It would be interesting to do a comparison between the two and what motivates choosing one over the other over time. It also reminds me of the history of Anglo-Saxon England. The earliest real history of the invasions was written by Bede a couple of centuries after the event. This used to be taken pretty much as fact but is now seen partly in terms of later dynasties justifying their position "why I should be king".
Yes indeed. We know very little amount the early Anglo-Saxon migrations. History and mythology have been intertwined for most of, well, history.
Bede was a prominent racist who never left the village of his birth and got his history second hand and millennia after it was supposed to have happened.
@@andrewwhelan7311 Racist?
@@chendaforest Yes. An Anglo centricity focused on a master race narrative that described the native indigenous Briton's as lesser breeds. The ancient Briton's origin myths refer to a migration from the near East via Troy and eventually to the island of Britain. The later attempt by Anglo Saxon royal dynasty's making the Troy connection was cultural appropriation in an attempt to discredit a native lineage that went back centuries before the Saxon's set foot on the island. The same applies to the Arthur stories. Bede was indeed a racist, at least by today's standards.
@@andrewwhelan7311 well maybe by today's standards but I'm not sure we should judge people from the past by modern values. We doubtless could call him an antisemite and sexists too. It's an interesting to know though how Bede created this fanciful narrative.
An interesting point is that according to the biblical reports in 2 Kings and especially 2 Chronicles about Hezekiah and Josiah, many Israelites remained back in northern Israel. Thus, the traditional interpretation of 2 Kings 17 would even contradict the Bible itself.
Britain, France, Switzerland, Danmark, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Bohemia Moravia, Saxony, etc etc.
The Ethiopian Jewish came during King Solomon’s time (they are the first born child of King Solomon’s officials). The story is that Ethiopia’s Queen Sheba came to visit King Solomon, the were intimate at one point. When the Queen Sheba left, Israel, King Solomon gave Queen Sheba a ring and said “when you go back home and found yourself with my child, send him/her to me with this ring so I will know my child”
After 18 years Queen Sheba’s son Prince Minlike came to Israel and presented himself (with the ring) to King Solomon. King Solomon was very happy and was shocked Prince Minlike’s resemblance to King David (his father). Moving forward, when the Prince went back to Ethiopia, for whatever reason, the first born of King Solomon’s officials went to Ethiopia with him. The Ethiopian Jewish are the descendent of this group.
Doesn’t seem very historically consistent. Firstly, why after 18 years? 18 years of age being the threshold to adulthood is an extremely modern idea. In Jewish tradition age 13 in the threshold or perhaps a little older for such a long trip but still 18 would have been completely arbitrary and unlikely. Also as you might know, sub Saharan Africa was almost completely cut off from the rest of Africa and euroAsia historically due to the huge dessert of wasteland between and mostly had trading ties with the Indian Ocean trading routes. So for the Queen and later the prince to make that kind of trip to a land they had absolutely no previous relation with seem extremely unlikely and borderline mythical. Their then later connection or claims of connection likely came from the Arab peninsula of which they were far more likely to be connected to.
It seems most of them made it to Israel in the second half of the 20th century.
Unfortunately, they aren't really well-accepted by Israeli society at large. Pity.
No we didn’t. Queen Saba was already a first testament believer that’s why she has two names. One is her baptism name, Makeda and the other her birth name Saba
@@BR-bi7ok that’s man made. We never had our land stolen or her lost any wars like the others through the protection of God
There is no lost ttibe,please dig so much the legit history about the 10 tribes.My country now a day called Philippines.Before the Spanish came Armada de Spaña the name of this archaepelago is Ophir.Please make your research more deeply
Great video! I love your content. Please don't ever stop sharing this awesome information!
This is a lovely and informative episode as usual. I rly didn’t care much about religious scholarship before I came across this channel but I’m glad I did
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@@benayahbendavidgavinrodrig1017 such weird energy to bring cuz why????
Yes, it is fascinating, and it seems many "religious scholars" do indeed say different things in Academic Circles and at Conferences than they do when doing apologetics or getting paid to address church groups. A wicked web indeed.
What we learn or have been told often is more tradition or doctrine, than it is based in any fact and so much has been completely overturned by research, discoveries and archelogy. Make you think.
You can actually find this identity of the Samaritans when a Samaritan woman talked to Jesus, and talks about their shared ancestry.
Your right...she is of the Northern Kingdom and Christ is Southern Kingdom, but both are Israelites. Their father Jacob had the well built.
I find the Samaritan people so fascinating- I don’t know very much about them but everything I learn is so interesting.
Fascinating, thank you 🙏
Thank you for this channel it’s good there’s a whole community of religious scholars providing content like this on RUclips I appreciate you
A good video, although I think it's important to asterisk note however that historically there were well-documented Jewish communities in Axum & Ethiopian predecessor states well before the establishment of the Solomonic dynasty. While the Kebra Nagast is largely Solomonic propaganda, Jewish merchants had been travelling to the Horn of Africa long before the Romans & Greeks invaded the region. The Jewish Himyarite empire regularly invaded &/or controlled areas of Modern Day Ethiopia, as well as regions formerly under their domain and/or influence. The case of the Beta Israel is divorced from that of the Mormons in that where the Jewish heritage of the Mormons is largely forged through Replacement Theology, the Beta Israel were born through organic migration & ethnogenesis. While yes Solomonic texts help shape the modern Beta Israel, genetic and archeological evidence both corroborate their pre-Roman Exile Jewish Identity.
There is also the Lemba Tribe of South Africa, who have long practiced Judaism, have genetic and cultural links to the Arabian Peninsula which their folklore said was their original home.
But they still aren't the lost tribe of Dan.
Much to the contrary, they are likely from judah, not lost in any sense.
Genetic evidence?
I've seen the autosomal results of Ethiopian Jews and it was identical to other Ethiopian Christians'.
Not even a slight Levant shift.
The Afro-Asiatic speaking East Africans, the Jewish ones included, do have significant Levant or Red Sea ancestry, but it's very old and has more to do with Natufians and early pastoralism than spread of Judaism.
Eritrean Christians and certain northern Ethiopian ethnic groups have more Levantine DNA than Ethiopian Jews.
@@JohnDoe10350 Because ethiopian christians descent from ethiopian jews.
@@lloydgush In that case, so does Somalis.
Thank you for very interesting listening for my wife and I this evening. I really enjoy learning about the history within and behind the Bible.
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Israel built those tunnels in the 80s before moving Palestinians into the gaza open air prison from birth to death no jobs no future no electricity at night no food. Israel is an internationally recognized genocide and apartheid state. They starve pregnant women and don't allow them to leave. When their sons grow up and defend them they get called terrorists and still are not allowed to leave to this day. It's literally a concentration camp only American mainstream media and certain racist others looking to make money on innocent lives in Palestine don't call it genocide but keep calling it the pleight of the Palestinians or Israel Hamas war but we know the truth. Hands off my tax dollars for this genocide and apartheid state of Israel that is not the victim America and the world stand with the people or Palestine forever 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.
It's a good documentary and educative.
I think both of the stories of the Samaritans are true.
We have good reason to believe that the Samaritans are the literal descendants of the Israelites at the time of the Assyrian conquest.
Since the Samaritans only have the Pentateuch and not the whole Tanakh, the obvious first thought might be that they split off from Judah before Joshua and later books were written.
But the Samaritan Pentateuch doesn't look like an ancient, pre-Assyrian document. Based on the text, it looks like something from the middle or late Second Temple period. It seems like it isn't even as old as the Septuagint!
This would indicate that the Samaritans actually did lose their Israelite culture, and reconstructed it later - just like the Bible says, and completely in keeping with what would be expected if the Assyrians replaced all the elites (including, obviously, the priests).
The shorter canon is probably just because Judges and subsequent books (especially Kings) don't paint a particularly positive picture of the Northern Kingdom, and because the prophetic and philosophical sections are extremely Judean in their outlook. Most of the books just wouldn't be relevant.
It's certainly an interesting case, no matter what actually happened!
There's a Samaritan "book of Joshua" as well which looks like something collected during Late Antiquity.
The Samaritans had the problem that, periodically, some outside force would smash them up. Then their children would have to collect the pieces again. Emperor Justinian hit them hard. The Sasanians and the first Muslims were pro-Samaritan (and Heraclius between them left them alone) but then the 'Abbasids hit them hard again.
According to the bible the northern tribes went astray ever since Jeroboam leaded them.
very interesting and plausible point of view
The Samaritan Pentateuch actually explains Deuteronomy. Historians have long been bothered by the fact that the Deuteronomistic History is very Israeli-centric instead of being Judah-centric as it should be if it was really written in the time of Hezekiah. There are even parts of the Deuteronomistic History which flat-out seem to consider the tribes of Judah and Benjamin as "others". The story of the priests "discovering" Deuteronomy in the Temple may actually reflect a real event given how the Samaritan Deuteronomy is different from the Jewish version. The current scholarly consensus is that the core of our Deuteronomy was written in the northern kingdom as an earlier attempt to centralize worship (of El, not Yahweh) at Mount Gerizim, and that traces of this can be seen in the core of the Samaritan Deuteronomy, even if the rest of the document had been "contaminated" by their reaction to the Judahite version later on. The Judahite priests probably got the original Deuteronomy and accompanying books from Israeli refugees and rewrote that canon to fit their worldview, expanding it include their own royal mythology.
In his video about the samaritans, he states that their torah is as old as the Jewish one
Correction: As an orthodox Jewish person I Need to correct some points: In the story about Dvora, the name Gilad is not a name of a tribe.
Gilad is the name of the land along the Jordan River at the eastern side of the river. The inhabitants of the Gilad are 2½ tribes.
Also if you'll read the Bible in Hebrew you'll see that during the Shoftim years, the tribes lived each tribe to its own most of the time and only get together in danger or for holidays.
So when we look at it from this perspective we can understand that the tribe under attack will call the closest tribes and not the tribes who lived couple of days (walking distance) away.
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I find scholars always get details like these wrong but they are sooo sure they are right about what they interpret. They assume way too quickly that every religious text must often be clumsily put together
@@agis230 its not that... The translation between Hebrew wnd English makes mistakes many times and even in Hebrew, remember... Hebrew exist more than 2000 years, some words changed their meaning, and every day Hebrew is a bit different than the Hebrew you'll find in the Bible
@@eladjellinek843 How is what you're saying any contrary to what I said?
But they mingled with the women to the north east and that was their blood line gone for ever
I should note that the Book of Mormon specifically does not provide an account of the 10 "Lost" Tribes. (As you note, the only tribal identifier we're given is "Manasseh," and they're not among the people who were supposedly deported to Assyria.)
However, the Book of Mormon does contain promises about the "gathering of Israel," leading Mormons (leaders and laypeople) throughout history to hypothesize about the present-day locations of the "lost" tribes. These have ranged from British Israelism to trying to find Israelite influence in cultures around the world to, on the fringes, believing that the tribes have a civilization around the North Pole - or in the center of a hollow earth!
Humans love tribalism. This is certainly the best treatise of this subject I have listened to.
This is always a fascinating topic. I live in Japan and have seen a documentary about the supposed lost tribe that "became the Japanese people." From the little that I recall, there are claimed some amazing coincidental similarities between languages, religions, and culture. Any of the countries claiming this would make a fascinating study/video. I always enjoy your videos and sometimes wish that I had followed that kind of path.
The American Indians DNA is linked to 3 groups in Japan
I guess it could be possible that some Jewish people influenced the Japanese culture a bit even tho Japanese aren't descended from them
@@pharaongaming8617 It's more, I think, that Japanese as a language comes from a distinct group than the portion of Asia surrounding it and nobody can exactly tell to which language group it belongs to so it's easy to find a few analogies with a language of your choice if you really want.
That it still tends to incorporate an inordinate number of loan words doesn't help.
Pretty weird documentary given that present-day Japanese are mainly descendants of Yayoi and Jomon peoples and are genetically not related to middle easterns.
@@efraim6960
Most '10 tribes theories' are not doing very well when put to a DNA-test
Great vid here! :) I actually do like the part of scripture that talks about liniages of geneolgy. I find it fascinating! :)
It also should be noted that the New Testament mentions some of the lost tribes, such as the prophetess Anna being from the tribe of Asher (Luke 2:36), showing that in the first century, the Israelite tribal identities still existed in the region. Levi, Benjamin and the 'scattered 12 tribes' are all also mentioned throughout the New Testament.
Those lost tribes are called gentiles, and Greeks in the New Testament.
The twelve tribes is a simplified and symbolic representation of the tribal system of Israel, and that is very clear from the text itself. Firstly, the twelve tribes exclude Levi, an extremely important tribe, because they had no secular power. Various lists of the twelve tribes either exclude or include the tribe of Dan, rename Ephraim Joseph, or as in the song of Deborah, combine some of the Transjordan tribes into Gilead. There are also sub-tribes that are discussed such as east and west Manasseh, and then some tribes like Dan live in the wrong place instead of their tribal allotment, and so on. In reality, the tribal system of ancient Israel was more like 15 tribes or more, but they were simplified into the 12 tribes to represent the tribes of Jacob, however these exceptions to the idealized tribal system are almost always recorded in the Bible itself which is where we get most of our ideas of the difference between the idealized and real situation
Almost like multiple writers were having trouble keeping everything straight over the centuries that these things were written and modified.
@@sobertillnoon to be honest I think in ancient times they might have understood this better than we do now, and thought nothing of it.
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Is the landless tribalization of Levi a bug or a feature? Was it an oversight and dismissal, or a reflection of a real historical tribal circumstance, or the insulation of a caste, or a development of the concept of separation of religion and state (it may fit by delanding the religious caste, but it may not fit since the Levites also filled basic civil service roles in governance, IIRC).
@@sobertillnoon no you have no clue what is going on. It is easy to understand how the tribal system works, and your theory would require all of the biblical authors to be idiots since your saying they can't keep straight a fairly sime system. You also aren't asking the interesting question: why did they feel a need to make a 12 tribes system in the first place?
The system set forth in the Bible is as follows:
There are 12 sons of Jacob. (12 tribes)
One of these sons (Joseph) was then given 2 tribes by his father (Ephraim & Manasseh) (13 tribes?)
But Levi was not given a territorial allotment and was distinguished from the other tribes. (12 normal tribes)
But then one of these tribes got land on both sides of the Jordan (Manasseh) and the portions on either side of the Jordan are called half tribes (still 12 tribes)
But Dan conquered land outside of it's allotment, in Naphtali, but this is still the same tribe as Dan in the south.
Further, the region east of the Jordan is distinct from the rest of Israel. It is called Gilead, and it is made up of half of Mannaseh and Gad. Also Reuben. It describes a group of tribes that cover an area, not a single tribe. So Gilead is not a tribe. Kinda. It is another name for Gad kinda, like Bashan is another name for east Mannaseh.
The Bible includes ways to divide Israel other than the 12 tribes to help describe the de-facto structure of Israel but it still uses the 12 tribes o refer to the ethnic origins of the people of Israel and it places the priestly class in it's own tribe seperate from the larger 12 tribes system. This is the kind of roughness you expect from actual history and not something an author would do if they were trying to make it up.
Whenever I watch one of your videos I can always count on it being well researched and professionally done, which is why I like watching them. This is no different. If you read the Bible carefully you'll see that it says that once the northern kingdom was conquered there were refugees who fled to the southern kingdom. And I can't tell you how many times I've read Luke 2: 36 until my eyes were opened. It talks about Jesus being presented in the temple and says: "There was also a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher." Asher is one of the so-called lost tribes.
It's nice to see someone actually reads the Bible! Yes, and Biblical archaeology has shown that, when the northern kingdom fell, Jerusalem grew to more than twice its former size. Probably, most Israelites in the northern kingdom were dispersed and lost, a Remnant always remained!
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Nice work and presentation. The Ethiopian connection, as I understand it, is an extention to the Yemeni claims. That Sheba was in, what is now called, Yemen. The Queen there traveled to Judia and later returned, possibly bringing an early semblance of the Judaic faith with her. Then, through historic events, those people were scattered and many ended up in neighbouring Ethiopia where strong trade relations and cultural customs were clearly evident.
The vast majority ended up in Europe. From there the Bible was spread to the earth. The United States is and always has been the largest producer of bibles in the world. Sorry lot we have for leadership today. Africa did not fulfill the prophecies. My ancestors were Hebrew ostrogoths on the Danube Riveraround 600AD. Yes they were Hebrews.
Lost 10 tribes may not be a physical description. In this context "lost" may be referring to the idea of having "lost" their history. There are large parts of the world where people's history is lost. For example my family history ends at being the creation of a Norse god, (which is likely a guess from a pre-industrial scholar). The point is the people of Norway for example have "lost" their history.
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Weird to discuss this without mentioning the apocryphal texts relating that the remnants of the Ten Tribes managed to escape the Assyrians, and went through 'the Gates of the Caucasus.
Thank you very much! What a deeply fascinating subject. New facts and ideas for me to absorb and a new book to read!
The 10 lost tribes were never lost at all they were just diaspora. When you consider the geographic spread contained in Acts 2. Not mysticism at all.
Again, so well done!
As I came to Israel from North America, by way of my grandparents in Ukraine--and probably (?) --from the Babylonian exile--I didn't realize about all these claims of ''being Israelite''!
Of course, I come into contact with Ethiopians, so often lovely, gentle people. I wish more of their ways would have influenced the contemporary Israelis!-- but it's been mostly the other way around.
All in all, the most sensible approach to this question I have heard. I am curious to know more about what the DNA shows.🤔☺
Pharaoh Giuseppe knew this would happen... He had a dream about ten fruits being lost from a vegetable salad.
You have to remember that a lot of Greeks, and Romans would keep slaves purely as teachers, especially to their children because this was one of the ways they gained more worldly knowledge, and wisdom. The Assyrians exiling intellectuals, artisans, and craftsman to their imperial heartland would have probably been along very similar lines.
I don't doubt it, put it's amazing we don't have a first hand account. Some trademan that was forced to relocate to Assyria. I guess there was no need, they might have done quite well. And they would have to find someone that was literate, and pay them a hefty fee, etc.
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2:38 the Gilead is the Hebrew name for a region across the Jordan river, extending from the Sea of Galilee in the north and the Dead Sea in the south. Nowadays in Jordan territory. the two tribes who shared that area in that verse were Gad and half of Menashe.
They were never "lost". If they existed at all in any type of form the bible describes they were simply asimilated into the Assyrian empire through deportation and resettlement. Moving peoples was a common conquerer technique for thousands of years.
An exaggeration of the number of people being killed and removed is not uncommon to the Bible itself. In Joshua, the conquest of Canaan, it says that the tribes of Israel wiped out all the people there, but clearly this is hyperbole because those people show up later in the stories, including the very next book.
Its also in the Egyptian plagues where it says that a plague specifically for the cattle wipe out the entirety of the Egyptians' cattle, then there's a plague of flaming hail that wipes out the cattle again and then the last plague of the firstborn wipes out the firstborn of the Egyptians' cattle.
This isn't even in a new book, its all within like 3 or 4 chapters.
Needless to say, the Bible plays very fast and loose with the word "all".
Not to mention that archeologically there is no evidence for the battles there ever taking place, with one highly arguable exception.
This is how we became misi formed innitially. You haave rehearsed and commtied this to memory very well. You make it sound convincing, which is your intention. YOU AND THOSE YOU REPRESENT CONTINUE TO MISSTATE FACTS, PEOPLE, RESULTS AND TWIST HISTORY. WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL IS NOT TRUE. YOU ARE REALKY INSINUATING THERE R NO LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL
And they still live to this day
If the Canaanites were defeated and the elites were executed, then it's easy to say they were "destroyed"... but as they re-formed, they would still exist to be fought again.
Great video as always. As you said, the place of the Israelites as God's chosen likely had an impact, especially as these theories exploded in the nineteenth century when ideas of racial descent became very significant. I always saw it as a similar phenomenon to the Romans connecting themselves to the Trojans, a people are introduced to a cultural context and want to fit themselves into it. In this case, Christians want to see themselves as more than simply converted Gentiles, instead they want to feel as though there was something there all along, as though their conversion was long in the making and fulfilling their destiny, connecting themselves more directly to the biblical narrative.
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The Masonic Scofield Bible renamed Palestine published in 1913 with Israel go look at a 1905 Bible it will say Palestine not Israel in the map. Israel never meant a name for a land it's the children of Israel is the true name. They attempted to divide and conquer the three religions but will fail as God is the best of all planners.
I think it's important to consider what was important to people at these times. To the tellers of tales, ordinary people likely didn't matter too much. Thus, if you remove all the members of the ruling class, you have "removed everyone".
Is there any credence that 10 tribes absorb in the area of Europe and today they are the blessed nations of Britian and America through Ephraim and Mannaseh filling the covenet with Abraham of becoming a company of nations "Britian " and a single great nation "America ".?
No
That's what Herbert W Armstrong taught
Absolutely!!! Everybody who’s always trying to figure this out always love to ignore what the prophetic scriptures tell us about our identity in the end days.. no other nations fulfill all of the prophecies except for Great Britain and America.. The English speaking peoples… our very names and coat of armors and standards… where did Jesus send the apostles to go to for the lost sheep of Israel? Not Africa not South America not China! We spread the gospel to the whole world and “ brought in the nations!”
This was such an amazing video Dr. Henry! The Lost tribes of Israel topic is fascinating. It's impressive to see how the mythology continues to evolve over time.
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Very informative video. And here is why the tribes of Israel were rendered ambiguous. For thus sayeth The LORD: "All who seek Truth are Israel. Spirit is life, the flesh counts for nothing." Elijah has returned, as prophesied.
I know this subject is enough for an entire semester/course -- but I'm surprised with your mention of last Ethiopian Emperor, Haile Selassie, that you wouldn't also include references to Rastafari.
Great video -- and very informative.
Yes we need to hear about the Rasta 12 tribes!
@@LaNina_DJ Well, I think '12 Tribes' is a 'denomination' (if I may) of Rastafari... But, generally speaking, Rastas see themselves as spiritual successors to Israel, if not also literally.
If you know this subject that well. I have a question. The Lemba tribe in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Are they decendants of the Hebrew priests?
@@alphavegas1 I do not know the answer to that one, sorry :/
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Man I feel like a lot of Rastafarianism is much closer to an ethical, Theistic religion than the Orthodox Christianity I was raised in. I really respect their commitment and I consider myself really lucky I got to see Sister Carol live at a Reggae concert.
If we knew that they would not be lost.
12:45 THE Benjamin Rush?? As in Stockton rush??? Aye Caramba
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“A phenomenon totally unparalleled in any other identity.”
I disagree. In fact, I’d argue it’s a very common story across different identities to argue the origins of one’s culture lie in some prestigious foreign land, especially drawing from esteemed works.
Perhaps the most obvious example lies with the endless list of people groups who claimed descent at one time or another from characters in the Iliad, or the Trojans as a people group. In this category, are of course the Romans, but also many later peoples, such as the Franks/French, Germans, Welsh, and even the Icelanders.
In the New World, the Mexica had the Atzlan myth.
Cambodia is so called because they claimed descent from the Vedic Kamboja tribe, if I recall correctly- you make a good point
Yup, everyone likes to think they are special or unique, a special people chosen by god or something. Silly really.
Yes, and it's interesting that "birth" or "descent" legends can shift. When the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes migrated to Britain, the ruling families traced their descent back to Woden, their chief god. But when they converted to Christianity, the descent was pushed further back, as Woden's descent was claimed to be from a son of Noah who was born in the ark! After the Norman Conquest, when the Continental influence grew, and classical legends became known at least among the ruling class, an alternate descent from the Trojans and the ancient Romans was claimed. Aeneas (son of Venus), who escaped the fall of Troy and founded Rome (supposedly) now became the founding father of Britain, through his descendant Brutus or Brut. This all became mixed up with the legend of King Arthur, who became the symbol of the ultimately failed attempt to defend the Roman legacy in Britain against the barbarian invaders. Very confusing, particularly when one considers that the people embracing this view of history were the English, descended from those barbarians, intermarrying with the remaining British! What can be better than a divine ancestor? Two or more!
@@elainechubb971 right, a lot of these mythologies tell us more about contemporary ideas than real history. During the nineteenth century, English identity was strongly linked to a wider Germanic or 'Teutonic' identity. This fell out of favour during the great war for obvious reasons. So the legendary King Arthur was rebranded as an English Celtic warrior who heroically fought back against the evil Hun, just like in the trenches.
It's sad that so many people have lost their cultural identity that anything that feels like it makes them feel special must be where they came from. I have such a huge mixed ancestry that it's not even funny, took me years but I'm finally happy just being Me! I hope anyone reading this finds comfort and solace in Just Being Satisfied with the fact they are alive and a Part of The Whole aptly named The Human Race! I loved your explanation here Sir very eye opening.
A lot of people saw it as necessary to place themselves in Abrahamic history after conversion to Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. The Romans did something similar by placing themselves in Homeric history by identifying themselves with the Trojan prince Aeneas. It's all about trying to fit yourself in someone else's story.
I notice that this obsession with ancestry is mostly a North American thing. Probably because most of us who live here aren't native to the land. We either come from Europe or Africa or Asia or somewhere else.
@@arnulfo267 I'm a 4th generation American my ancestors came from Ireland and Germany and I have two different native American blood lines. So I'm a bit of a mixed mutt
It is very tragic. I’m the case of my people (The Agikuyu) we had a monotheistic religion that was a completely separate development from Abrahamic monotheism. Our ancestors had independently come to the conclusion that there was only One God and for hundreds of years had their own stories concerning God and their own manner of worship. Today, unfortunately, many of us worship and understand God through the historical and cultural lense of someone else. it is very tragic!
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The 10 tribes of Israel married into the Assyrian culture as Samaritans while many moved to the Southern part in Judah which was destroyed in 70AD…
There's no record for such.
Samaritans biblicaly speaking are the replacement people for Ephraim in their territory. Assyryan mainly.
Ephraim never returned to the land according to 2 Kings 17. To this day.
Also no migration of the northern tribes into Judah ever recorded. Actually the two houses were AT odds, for that to happen, and their réunification IS timed at Messiah's return. That's the biblical paradigm.
I agree that there is a legend component. But from a religious point of view the tribes were actually lost because they didn't continue in the Israelite religious tradition. They were not physically lost, but lost from their religious tradition. They were not deported, but their identity (art, knowledge and power) was deported.
Makes sense
They discontinued from their heritage
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Isaiah 11-11: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
That day is yet to come.
Great video, but a little disappointed you didn't at least mention the Kaifeng jews, maybe a topic for a future video? ^^
Thanks
This has always been one of my favorite topics regarding the Hebrew Bible. I find it so interesting.
The Tribe's where never lost but scattered.
Amen Sid!
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God says they - are lost to themselves . and not to him God is spirit those who rship Him who riphinspirit und truth
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@@robinellis6237 Yes However there's a special place for Physical Yisrael and that's the Word of THE MOST HIGH YAH. Isaiah chapter 11.
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Well by the time the land Split between the Northern Kingdom of Israel, and the Southern Kingdom of Judah, there had already been enough intermingling when the Kingdom was United that the Judeans weren’t exclusively descendants of Judah and Benjamin.
The Gospels clearly shows the city These tribes are living today.
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Very eclectic and pedantic. Just the way I like it. I have been studying this stuff for a while and you are closing some of the gaps for me. It was as I suspected. Eclectic and pedantic. Just the way I like it. Well done and thank you for all of your hard work. It clearly shows in the material that you present.
(Around 5;50) - even at this early age, we see the removal of artisans, craftsman, and people of knowledge. They are separated from the general populace, used to the advantage of the few, and the general populace is cultivated like an ever replenishing band of drones to serve the large machine of the state.
It hasn’t changed at all, has it?
I wanna know about the 40 years in the desert thing, did they just lose the attack of the “promised land”?
Because we Israelites know our Father dont play; of the ORIGINAL mass of us that left egypt only Joshua and Caleb set foot in the promised land.
They were in the desert for 40 years; their children were able to inherit the promise land. While the ones rescued by god from Egypt died in the desert.
If we knew that, they wouldn't be lost.
Good video
On one minor point: Numbers 32 and Deuteronomy 3 talk about how the tribes of Gad and Reuben decide to settle in the lands of Jazer and Gilead. Over in Judges 5 there is the mention of Gilead as if it's the proper name of a tribe, but no mention of either Gad or Reuben. Also, 2 Kings 10:32+33 makes the comment _"Hazael conquered them in all the territory of Israel from the Jordan eastward: all the land of Gilead-Gad, Reuben, and Manasseh-from Aroer, which is by the River Arnon, including Gilead and Bashan"_ (although those verses are phrased a bit differently in other translations...).
Isn't it plausible that at the time the book of Judges was written, the term "Gilead" was used to mean _"those two tribes of Israel who settled on the wrong side of the Jordan"?_ A single term to cover both tribes, since those two tribes had already chosen to separate themselves from the rest of Israel? A quick scan indicates that the book of Judges has zero references to Gad, and only two to Reuben, but both names show up in other books in the Hebrew bible.
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Galaad is a region on northern east side of the Jordan It’s the the half tribe of Manasseh and/or maybe Gad. Malik, in Judges 5, but the not mentioned in the video, is the other half tribe on the western side. He’s one of Manasseh’s son. Gad is not really mentioned per say either.
I know what the lost 13th tribe is , It's commander amadella And the battle start galactica With its rag tag Fugitive fleet .........
Thanks for another great video Dr Henry. I was wondering if you still had plans to release videos about more African Diaspora Religions.
The real 10 lost tribes were the friends we met along the way.
My favorite part of the gospels was at the last supper when Peter said: "So thas it? What? This some kinda...New Testament?" and then everyone clapped as the credits rolled. Almost as good as the time Moses said "It's Mosin' time" and then he Mosed' all over Pharaoh and his army. Truly one of the stories of all time.
Israelites came from Africa
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@@davidripplinger8904 if only those 10 friends along the way were not antisemitic, I would have gladly accepted that fantasy
The tribes were scattered throughout different lands and countries
Enlightening...
My sister was given a DNA profile by her children for her birthday, and we were surprised at the variety of races found in her (our) DNA. According to our genealogy, we’re 3/4 Irish, 1/4 English. But our DNA had 1.3% Middle Eastern and 1.0% Ashkenazi Jewish. There’s been so much intermingling through trade, war and migration, I think we all have traces of many races in our blood. I like that idea.
Absolutely. I have stud blood. 😉
@The Great Gazoo You're spouting post modern twaddle, there are marked differences between races.
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I found that I am 99.8% Ashkenazi Jew.
As least there is no "Black".
Oh man, I'm only 2 minutes in, and I'm now extremely interested in learning more about the rumors of how my grandfather on my father's side of my family may have had ancestral connections to Jewish communities near Keifeng, China (some people on my father's side of the family have different hair than other Chinese). I never really read much into that particular community, but I'm now really wondering if anybody there claimed that the community may have had ancestry from the 10 lost tribes, haha.
EDIT: Thanks for all the comments and more information for me to delve into. Just a quick update that I have talked about the topic a little bit with my dad afterward, and it turns out that my 1st cousin on that same side of the family did get a DNA test and confirmed that she's 2% Jewish! So unless there's that tiny chance that someone on her mother's side of the family also happens to have that lineage as well, I can more than safely conclude that I'd be around 2% as well.
I guess that might be unrelated, but I think a lot of Uyghurs converted to Judaism at one point in history if I remember correctly 🤔
@@algepaca Oh very interesting! I guess I need to look into that as well, haha
I watched a documentary regarding Chinese that the documentary was claiming were of the lost tribes. They ate pork but only when mixed with ashes. Seems unlikely.
Keifeng Jews are a real thing, and are recognized (for the most part) by mainstream Judaism. Not even "lost tribes", just Jews who immigrated to China and mixed with the local population. There's a good wikipedia article about it and also a video on the Unpacked channel called "How Jews Ended Up in India and China"
@@GaviLazan Nice, thanks!
They come around mine every now and then and i make sure that they are indeed actually lost and if its them I let them go again.
This is a very interesting video but the dates are confusing. Which calendar are you refering to?