What photographers aren't telling you about "low light" photography
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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Timestamps:
00:00 What is the challenge?!
01:12 Test One!
01:45 what lens I'm using (and why it matters)
02:20 Test Two!
02:50 What shutter speed (and how!)
04:40 Test Three!
05:11 How to protect your highlights (and why!)
06:05 Test Four!
06:40 Obsbot sponsor
08:29 is low light a LIE?!
09:28 Test Five!
09:54 low light tip
10:50 How to shoot RAIN
11:56 so which camera did the best?
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The image quality was a lot close than I thought it would be! Do you have any low light photography tips that I might have missed?
What is the software you use to edit the pictures in this video?
@@elzafir just Adobe Lightroom 😊
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The truth is that the 16megapixel sensors were great, I have plenty of awesome night pics shot with my (now sold) em10.2; the lower pixel count in low light becomes a blessing
if you were in the market for a micro 4/3 say the gh6, would you maybe hold off for a few weeks ? i hear there is a fancy new one ocoming soon thats 7 times better ;)
"Buy cheap cameras and go and have fun" that's the best advise in all of the internet.
After 30 years in photography (professionally) I can 100% agree with everything you have said regarding low-light
photography . A superb video on the subject.
A modern proverb I heard somewhere on a photo blog: "Amatures worry about sensor and the newest camera body, pros worry about galss, but masters only think about how to add lighting".
Love the blind test :) I was surprised I picked the EM5 every single time! I'm clearly a fan of vibrant warm rather than colder blue tones straight out of camera.
Same here: every single time
Me too, and I have the OM1…🤣
Same. Preferred every time!
I feel like the OG EM5 is one of those special cameras like the Leica M9
E-M5 has by default setting enabled "Keep warm colors" that can be found in White Balance settings.
Disable that and you get WB set to neutral white.
When you see how well the EM5 did... just shows you can have some serious photography power for not a lot of money. Arguably the it's one of the best times to get into Photography.
This was an excellent video. I've literally shot thousands of photographs, at night (or indoors under low light) with both of those cameras, and won a few awards with both. You're absolutely right in that the E-M5 mk1 can capture some amazing low light images. But, if you are planning on printing anything larger than 11x14," noise begins to be noticeable around ISO 1600 on the E-M5; the OM-1 delivers about the same amount of noise somewhere between ISO 3200-6400, plus, the dynamic range has been improved quite a bit. Also, the in-body image stabilization is markedly better on the OM-1, allowing for longer exposures without noticeable blurring from hand shake--something which can be critical with street photography when you're trying to snag something which has suddenly happened. But the most critical advance made with the OM-1 over the E-M5 mk1, is the speed and accuracy of the autofocus in low light. Unfortunately, I can't rely on my own eyes to manually focus a shot any more, so I must rely on whatever camera's autofocus capabilities that I'm using. In low light, the original E-M5 was often painfully slow to focus when the light was really dim. The OM-1 is in a different league all together in this regard. I'm grateful that I can afford the OM-1 (though I'm not burdened with your hefty VAT), but someone with less means could do very well with a good minimally used E-M5 mk1, shooting at night with the right lens--I did. BTW, the P/L 25mm f/1.4 was my go-to lens on that camera as well.
Can't watch this vid without appreciating how well you know the ins and outs of your autofocus! Great work!
great one again!
special thanks for the rain framerates!
On holding your breath: As a former singer (can prove it: search for my name and "sound of silence" - since you quoted that song :) i got aware that i intuitively hold my breath to stand still. it reduces the shakes but can cause some jitter. instead i tried it the singer-way: let the exhalation release the action
you might get a bit more "slow flowing wobble" but less jitter:
1. breath normally till you "know what you are after", then
2. inhale deeply and aware of the fresh air you have now
3. your body will initiate exhale at an optimum
4. ask your lungs to press the shutter
5. watch and marvel
It is always shocking how confident this body is if "I don't MIND"
Tip 5 for handheld .. multishot. It’s a variation on the two second timer, but is generally useful for when the shutter speed drops lower. I always shoot with it enabled. If each shot is delayed more than usual, this is a handy prompt that the shutter speed is low.
Great video! I appreciate the detailed comparison between the EM5 and OM1. also, I had no idea webcams could be this exciting. The Obsbot Tiny Two sounds like a fantastic addition to any content creator's toolkit:)
I randomly clicked on this. The rain tip alone was worth the view, very nice, something I'll remember.
This wasn't really the question you asked, but I just went for the pics I liked best out of the two choices. Each time I preferred the EM5 bar one. I did attempt one guess as to which was the OM1. I got that wrong 😅 Great pics, tips and of course great video 😊
Hmm! Thats actually a really interesting point! Is there something inherently more pleasing (maybe nostalgic?) About the older images !
Me too, At some point I just knew and accepted, that I prefer the 200€ camera pictures. Not for the nostalgic feeling, but because I thought they were better looking (mostly), at least in a youtube video. I'm sure if I looked at the RAWs and tried to process them, I'd prefer the newer model.
The OM1 had better highlight detail and colour rendition.
I thought I guessed them right, but after the first half of the video, things changed and couldn’t tell which was which properly. Awesome challenge, would love to see more of them!
Hi Emily, this is a fantastic video! You cover some really important aspects that in a way strip the cameras of their age entirely and pit them against each other in the purest sense. Plus, really great tips for anyone that dispels the fear of "low light" AND... you include really catchy tunes. Thank so much!
Just to say thank you for very helpful videos, including this one. As I struggle to sleep at night, I use the time to watch videos, and yours are always illuminating and pleasant to watch. Thanks!
Fantastic video - I love a good "guess which is which" video! and I got most of them wrong! 😂 Definitely thought the older camera had better colours and was warmer. I also really liked your edits - I think that made all the pictures really shine!
Illuminating video, as always. Nice ST line thrown in there!
I've been really enjoying this channel. Thanks for another fantastic video.
Nicely done! You've really illustrated how it's how you use the camera than how great the specs are in cameras! This really supports the notion of spending on glass rather than bodies when GAS hits!
I think that's a great takeaway! Glass is king! 😁📷
@@MicroFourNerds The aphorism is you date the body but marry the lens.
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“Hello Darkness, My old Friend” Nice musical link 😂😂😂
This was a great vid. I guessed wrong most of the time. I think because it _looked_ like the OM5 was dealing better with blown-out highlights. I use a 10+ year old camera mostly, so this was a good reminder. I consider myself quite well versed in camera technique knowledge (whether or not I always apply it in the moment) but you taught me a couple of things I didn't know.
As for the test, I couldn’t find one that I preferred over the other! I have an E-M1 and an E-M10 mk2 and I love them, so that might be why 😅 great video for alleviating GAS during the barrage of sales during Black Friday/November
Keep making videos! really enjoy them!
Love your videos and the joyous energy. Watching on a tablet it was pretty impossible to decide, and also, no-one in reality will see two versions of any shot you took, and if the snap is compelling enough, no-one will care.
Great video. Thanks, Emily. The points you made get talked about a lot, but are rarely demonstrated. That said, the OM1 clearly made better final images, but it was good to see the EM5mk1 holding its own. But I'm sure the OM1's RAWs provided quite a bit more latitude for postprocessing, which is important in its own way.
You are absolutely right! Nowadays, I am shooting most of my phots with my S23 Ultra...and it's a lot of fun!😉
At the scale of Social Media it's always difficult to tell. It always seems to come down to what the intented use for the images are. While I could pick out the right camera in most of your shots, I am certain that the RAW image, enlarged for printing would really show the difference. Once again, your point is well made. Buy cheap, have fun and unless you're selling beautiful hi res landscape photos or doing product photography it won't matter. There's something for everyone nowadays. It would be interesting to start one's YT channel with as inexpensive camera as possible and succeed because of your personality and what you have to say to the world. Your videos and professionalism have increased exponentially in quality over the past year or so. Don't stop. Thanks.
I picked the EM5 in every shot. What a great video and this changed my mind about newer cameras. I’m done buying hoping it will be better, now I will go with fun factor over new sensors.Thanks
Big thank you! I recently picked up the OM-D E m5 and I had my doubts. This review/demo and your top 10 #1 video have changed my mind.
Another tip for hand-held long exposures, set to high-speed burst and hold the shutter down for a bit. Then in post you can select whichever of the 10 frames was sharpest - even if you're moving a bit, usually there'll be a couple that are sharp, and because you're holding the shutter most of the images won't be affected by the movement of your finger.
Love your channel - always interesting, always entertaining, always informative.
Great video. Makes me and my brand new camera feel a bit silly. You’re an inspiration. love your photographs no matter what camera you shoot, however expensive, or dinky, or spray painted.
I completely agree with the way you tackle lowlight. For holidays I use the compact Panasonic G90 or sometimes even the Gm1. The excellent IBIS indeed makes it possible to take excellent night shots handheld with a low shutter speed. And the new noise reduction in Lightroom also produces better results. I also photograph indoor events, parties and concerts, with more movement than with city shots. Then I notice that my SonyA3 with light-sensitive lens produces much less noise and also better color reproduction than my MFT cameras.
I love the energy first of all! Everything else is awesome. And yea, grading! Beautiful. Ok, let me continue watching the video :D
I honestly preferred the older camera’s images for almost every shot except for 1. I’m still shooting with my Fuji xt2 for professional headshots.
The EM5 I was just the thing when I wanted an inexpensive mirrorless. Still selling for about $200, it's a terrific value and a very solid performer. I'm planning on acquiring an EM1 II one of these days (c $500), but cannot justify the cost of the new OM1.
A friend told me to watch your videos after wanting to get into more budget friendly photography (I shot on Sony Full frame until recently, which I sold recently for funding another hobby) and honestly this is a fantastic channel. Very well delivered content! Thank you! Subscribed 😁
Thank you, and your friend! ☺️
I drift around RUclips watching photography professionals, you managed to keep my attention to the end of the video 👍 very informative and well presented.
Makes me appreciate my E-M5 mk II even more! Those E-M5 shots were great!
A great comparison and fantastic the way the way the EM5 did.
I like watching your videos. So simple about photography!
Got to love the E-M5. I have had such great adventures with mine. An absolute prized possession.
Really enjoyed that, I consistently got it wrong every single time.
Preferred the look of the cheaper camera in every comparison.
Guess there's no need for me to be buying an expensive camera any time soon.
Loved the Liverpool shots ❤ Hits different, coz I've been to the city myself. Crazy but lovely city indeed 🎉
For nighttime photography suggest reading Lance Keimig. The rule of thumb there is tripod, /small/ aperture (for sharpness), lowish ISO and long shutter. Of course this falls apart if there is movement you have to freeze and grab the Summilux.
B&W can look good at high ISO with its fast film grainy look.
Two things:
Completely agree with the breathing tip. My photographer friends are always arguing about whether clicking at breath in or breath out (I’m a breath out type of clicker).
Also love your MMPR/Sentai collection. Incredible stuff!
Nice video, interesting comparison, and low light tips.
Hi Emily, I enjoyed your vlog. I found great tips from it
I really cannot tell any difference between the two cameras.
BTW, you have the most beautiful smile 😊
Pretty consistently picked the EM5, very surprised! Great video. Goes to show how much is down to how you use the tools you have and not how expensive or cutting edge they happen to be.
I love my MFT Lumix GF6's low light capability! Despite being really old it holds up really well!! I take it to football matches where my A7 would just be too big and I get decent results despite using the higher ISOs (Photoshop's new AI noise thing helps a lot too)
omg, thats the coolest sweater.
Amazing video !! love it
Ok, so I picked the wrong camera most (not all) of the time AND often preferred the EM5. That surprised me, but then I realized effectively what you said…’most cameras for the last many years can produce wonderful photos’…I would add you just need someone who knows how to use it! Just another tool! Nice job Emily..wonder if the Mk111 would have worked much the same as the Mk1. Loved the Star Trek reference btw…And to close a quote from the Matrix (aligns with all the great tips you provided here) : “ I Can Only Show You The Door. You're The One That Has To Walk Through It."
I printed a picture of the EM5 and taped it to my desk until several paydays later I bought this camera the year it was launched only in black because silver was sold out. It has been with me to Canada,Japan, Singapore across the Usa and in the Philippines in all kinds of weather from freezing to hard rains and salt water beaches. Weather sealed easily rinsed off with the WR lens and Even now that I own numerous other Brands from Fuji, Canon, Pentax, Sony and Lumix I still to this day if just running out the door Grab my Trusty friend Olympus EM5 without hesitation knowing I can get both beautiful photos and stabilisation for video. I'm not a one camera does all believer if you can afford other cameras more specialised for specific tasks but if I could only afford one camera to sufficiently do everything this one would be it. I also own the EPL5 and an electronic viewfinder added and picture/video quality is identical. But the view finder cost me as much as a used camera so its a great camera if using the back screen only making it a steal on the used market. Plus MFT lenses fit any MFT camera even the ones from china. I've watched your videos from the first one you ever posted and love that your not prideful you've remained a lovely person and a joy to view
Once again, thank you for proving this point. Just take a damn picture. Find a camera you ENJOY using and USE IT.
Using the viewfinder is a much stabler position for handheld in low light. I've found not holding my breath, but breathing out as I take the photo is good for avoiding camera shake. The other thing I do when doing handheld shots at night is set my camera to a high frame rate and take a burst of photos and I usually will get a few which don't have shake. However what you can get with a tripod and low iso at night is always much better. Actually often I shoot at night with a high-end point and shoot (like Nikon P series or Canon G series) and a light weight tripod and get very good results.
The higher dynamic range makes a visible difference. I once did a low-light shoot with E-M5II (mine) and E-M1II (borrowed), and not only resolution/detail and noise were visibly different - but especially highlight-retention was much better with the E-M1II (an all-around capable camera, so I would possibly look for a used one if I'll need a new camera). YT can't show it, but watching full-screen on a 4K display already does (no pixel-peeping necessary, not for the noise, not for the highlight retention, maybe for resolution/detail).
The other tip for hand-held is to make a long exposure and to make a lot of shots of the same subject. The more the shots the higher the probability some of them will turn out sharp.
Thanks for your video. EM5 is holding up well enough
That was awesome and extremely informative. Was contemplating upgrading my SL3 to the R series but I figured out there's still life in my lady. It all ends up to clever shooting and Lightroom.
IBIS easily makes up for more than anything else for this, more than you can afford for aperture, more than crop vs large, more than wide angle, anything. (maybe not all those combined). It's flipping amazing, I can take 1/2 second or if I do a burst sometimes 1s exposures handheld (with all those stability techniques). Absolutely bonkers.
I like shooting bright light atmospheres. They look awesome
I absolutely love this test you did a brilliant job! Shout out to the EM5. I love seeing older cameras delivering the good.
I found I picked the EM5 most of the time, only occasionally the OM 1! Thanks for this enlightening video, Emily🇦🇺
Thanks Emily, good advice. I used to have gear envy and would listen to influencers who would extol a new camera model that was "100% faster focusing" or "Has amazing improved ISO performance." Sadly, I would sometimes purchase said camera only to find that it was only slightly better in both areas than my previous camera. Lesson learned. There are certain times when I use my giant pro-level DSLR (yes, I still have a DSLR), but generally, a small camera does the trick for me. As an aside I was at a friend's birthday party in a dark restaurant. I took a shot with my iPhone (no flash) and even that gadget produced a very nice photo.
the Editing you did one them is Nuts I really like it.
Based on your great little video on your EM5, I went looking for an OM-D bargain as an everyday carry. I've just bought an E-M10 ii plus two lenses for under £350! (the extra lens was a bonus). After this video, I can't wait to go out and have some fun.
I could just about correctly pick them apart in all of the examples, but it's funny how close they're, considering various companies marketing their highest ISO capabilities, especially the OM1 was claimed to have a 2 stop improvement over the EM1iii 😂. It seems like it barely has a stop over the EM5. Seems like the only way as of now to get better low light performance is to get a bigger sensor camera. Thank you for this very interesting test.
Hello. Instead of holding your breath while inhaling, it is better to exhale slowly and press down at the end of the exhale. Inspiration increases the heart rate, exhalation decreases it. These are shooting techniques. The best is to exhale slowly, and wait between 2 beats to trigger.
Great video Emily, both cameras are capable of great shots. What matters more is subject, composition and "soul" of the image. As Cartier-Bresson said "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept”. I'd much rather look at a less than sharp image that makes me feel something than a tac-sharp ultimately boring or cliché photo.
I have the Em5 and the Sony A7III the image difference is staggering when used in an environment like a pub or music event. But during the day it’s not that much different ❤ m4/3 are lighter and easier to carry around + the colours the Oly makes are smoother and more pleasing.
I sold my A7iii years ago. Just fired up my PC the other night and god damn the portraits on the Sony were incredible.
Get the S5ii and its best of both worlds
I love how you teach us with your videos. Hope to learn more from you. Subscribed!
Managed to guess most correctly although I did start to doubt my self when the edited photos came on screen. I have just picked up a EM5, my main body is an Em1 mk3 I got the 5 mainly as a carry around when not wanting to take my main gear looking forward to using a bit more for night time in the city.
Some great practical tips! Another thing I think can be useful to remember is that “small” sensor cameras should be operated at smaller numerical f-stops than “large” sensor cameras to obtain the same depth of field. This means that when taking a night scene, for example, a micro 4/3 camera will be operating at two stops lower ISO than a full frame camera. This is why sensor size has very little effect on practical low light noise performance. However, larger sensors are still better at dealing with scenes with high dynamic ranges - common in night scenes - and will require less careful exposure to avoid blown out highlights etc. Of course it’s all about creativity and skill, but nevertheless understanding these things are important in translating mere settings into how an image ultimately looks.
At 6:30 I much preferred the $200 camera's look. Kinda crazy. Also speaks to your talent to extract as much as possible.
i got about half of it right, and my main camera is an OM-1 :D just shows that the person and the skill is much more important than the equipment itself!
Exactly! I thought it was quite a fun experiment- I didn't expect it to be as close as it was for sure!
I love your video. It is always a real pleasure to follow you. You enjoy my day.
I literally L O V E every single one of your videos and would take for granted everything you say at this point. You're amazing.
By the way, I guessed them all wrong and liked the em5 bettere every time.
I’m late to respond, but in a lot of cases I preferred the E-M1 over the OM1. In a transitional switch from Canon FF DSLR where I opted to go with f4 ”L” lenses to reduce lens size I purchased a well underused E-M1. After happily using the E-M1 for a time, along side the Canon, I decided to sell all of the Canon gear and the E-M1 and pick up an E-M1 Mk III. My only regret was not keeping the E-M1 body that I used to qualify my switch.
I might add that I do use HR mode for static product photography. It performs brilliantly.
When I make prints, I’m rarely disappointed and if I am it’s usually a fault of my own doing.
Thanks for sharing your insights on low light photography. I'll definitely try some of these techniques with my camera. btw The Obsbot Tiny 2;s tracking ability seems amazing
Great low light tips, framed in an interesting comparison of the two cameras. (I could mostly guess which was which, but the quality of the low priced camera was quite good.)
Great video and tips. To be honest, after post processing and having the image sized for the web, I could not see a difference.
I still have the E-M5 and E-M5 Mark ii.
I use the E-M5 Mark ii more because the E-M5 has a faulty mode dial when set to "A".
One of those Gorillapod type tripods might work to grip/keep the camera stable.
Also set the camera somewhere, use the timer with antishock so you don't even need to hold the camera.
I recently bought a remote shutter release because E-M5 accessories are cheap now.
I actually preferred the EM5 shots most of the time. Overall the EM5 seemed to have better control of the highlights and after editing the shadow detail is still sufficient. I recently returned to M43 after finding your videos, and can definitely see the 16MP CMOS being a big step up over the 12MP LIVEMOS. I am still a sucker for my old E-P3, but it really does show its age next to my new (to me) E-M10ii.
Great points! Thanks for highlighting the sensor size debate. I have a TG5 that has been accused of being my Somy Full frame. 😅. And I secretly shoot APSC sometimes . Thanks again.
Ha I love that! I had the TG1 a while back and bloody loved it!
I'm not a M4/3 user but enjoyed the video with some good tips for shooting in low light. Thanks.
i really liked the EM5's Photos, heck i would even take them over my old 250D from Canon! it really "Shines" in the Competition and once again shows how good old and now affordable Cameras are still holding up...
For me most of my faves where the cheap camera. And shooting at night is always been my favouite style along side landscape. I got a Sony a7iii and love it got a 1.4GM lens with it sometimes the 24mm is a bit wide wishing | had a plus 50mm for close shots. Also I had an old FujiFilm onee of the first decent digtral cameras I used and despite it's 12mp it was so good when it came to photos and video even compared to some today. Intresting for sure
I learned tonight that I'm keeping my E-M5. Its files look similar enough to the new camera that I feel like I don't need to drop two grand on the new body, versus using the money for lenses.
Truthfully, the biggest shooting difference is the 2022 EVF vs the 2012 EVF.
Great comparison, thank you!!
This was a great video. I was able to tell all but 2 images you provided that was from the cheaper and the more expensive camera. TThe two that was missed was from missed/out of focusing. The dynamic range of the newer camera is very noticeable (in RAW of course), although in your edits, the sharpness made the difference since it was very noticeable between the two. But with that said, most people are not looking at photos on a large screen nor do they have them blown up and displayed on the wall. Everything looks great on a small screen. So, a cheap $200 camera is more than enough. Most people even ditched the camera altogether and rely on their camera phones, who now have crazy low f-stops. But as you said, its fun and there is no real need for the most expensive gear if you learn the proper fundamentals in shooting. Great advice and looking forward to more. You have a new subscriber!!
This is a great kind of question to ask. One potential difficulty here, though, is simply that these images are significantly reduced in size to fit in a video frame (or, when viewing side-by-side, half of one) and then on top of that compressed into a lossy video codec for RUclips. And then resized again during playback to fit in whatever portion of whatever screen is being used to view them. It's a neat side-by-side thing to compare, but evaluating stills in a video is really difficult to do effectively because so much data is lost, and in particular resizing downward from original resolution is going to cut back on the visible noise. Would be interesting to see the original shots posted as jpegs on a web page rather than in a video, which would make for a much more clear comparison.
I get the most stable shots, when I take two deep breaths, exhale slowly and release the shutter before I take the next breath: in this peaceful quiet gap between to breaths I get the best shots. Works much better than holding the breath with lungs full of air.
I got the camera right about 50% of the time, and most of that was trying to guess which photo had the greatest dynamic range, which is a very arbitrary measure.
Subscribed! 😊 Now I'm curious about Olympus cameras, the oldest most used camera that I own was the fujifilm xt1. Couldn't agree more with you, your knowledge as a photographer comes first and the rest comes second.
Great video. I ended up selecting the EM5 shots every time in your tests. 🙂
I much preferred the images taken with the EM5, they were warmer and I really liked them. OM1 was cold looking. Great test 👏
I think color handling has probably changed a lot. The OM-1 is slightly more blue-biased compared to previous models. I can tell that when compared to my Panasonic G7. Though it's not terrible. It also depends on the lighting and how the auto white balance adapts. In raw, it isn't really an issue. Though I tend to prefer jpegs out of camera.
These are RAWs they are only as 'warm' as the sliders setting..🤷♂️
@@Paul_anderson_creative Most raw processing engines, whether Lightroom, DXO, CaptureOne, etc., will read the info from the file and honor the basic color profile and white balance unless you opt to change it. Not to mention, each sensor and software in a camera can produce different potential in their raw files. So color science exists.
Nice work. Appreciate your video work and your FB group.
you can tell which is cheaper in most of the shots but honestly its not THAT much of a difference. You're so right just get any camera and have fun
I have old MFT cameras too, I so often use the E-PL7, and it is very difficult to tell which camera took a good photography compared to any of the new ones. It may be easier to do the same job with the G9, but the final photo very much the same.
A lot of people make content such as vlogging with phones and go pros these days. It’s worth saying that even the worst micro four thirds cameras are miles ahead of those two options at lowlight. And then if you really need strong lowlight there are specialist cameras like the GH5s which can go toe to toe with the best full frame cameras. I think M43 is a good middle ground between of size/price and quality between full frame and popular smart phones and action cameras.
I totally agree! You get so much more quality at a smaller overall package