LEARNING TO LIKE CLASSIC METAL...
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2022
- Can I learn to like classic metal? I give classic metal bands like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Venom, Black Sabbath, Scorpions, Mercyful Fate, Quiet Riot, Kiss and more a chance! I'm leaning to like classic metal. Will you learn to like classic metal??
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Man, your recommendations should have been vetted better, not that I'm like the biggest Kiss fan or anything but that's like one of the shittiest Kiss songs out there, you should have listened to like Parasite or Going Blind or Strutter or something, not that I even think you'd like those very much either but they definitely don't suck as hard as God of Thunder, and Teacher's Pet is by far the worst Venom song. I fucking love Venom, I can see why you wouldn't, they're pretty cheesy and dated by modern standards but I love the riffage and the recording quality and Chronos' voice, also the aesthetic of Satanism is always just novel and fun to me even though it is bassically just a novelty (at least in their case).
Dude its not going back. Just listen to LIVE EVIL OR RAINBOW RISING OR, OR, OH WELL I GET IT BUT IF YOU LIKE MELODIC HARDV ROCK, YOURE REALLY MISSING OUT ON GREAT SONGS. SONGS DUDE. A GREAT SONG IS TIMELESS. I HATE MOST CLASSIC METAL I GREW UP ON BUT OPERATION MINDCRIME? RAGE FOR ORDER? THEY ARE JUST AMAZING SONGS W COMPLEX ARRANGEMENTS AND GREAT LYRICS. YOU MUST LOVE ANGEL DUST RIGHT? I KNOW ITS A BIT LATER BUT PLEASE TELL ME YOU LOVE THAT ALBUM. IF NOT....PEACE BRO MAIDEN, PRIEST AND EVEN EARLY METTALICA DIDNT DO MUCH FOR ME. OOOOH PAIN KILLER. GREAT TRACK MAN. WELL DONE
IM GONNA GET SHIT ON FOR THIS BUT CHECK OUT DIO FRONTING SABBATH. WAYYYYYY BETTER THAN OZZY ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE HIM. U HAVE TURNED ME ON TO SOME NEWER STUFF b m the horizen and sleeping w sirens and breaking benjamin, i dig. taylor momsens band i cant remember the name. all great. love
Scorpians were HUGE in the STATES but i never really got it. Any band w a dumbass title like ROCK U LIKE A HURRICANE just cant. IT CANT be timeless. When ur 14, ok. But like KISSTARDS THERE ARE OLD SCHOOL METALTTARDS that still think that shit is cool and they totally rejected the lyrical depth of GRUNGE or wat i would call ATERNATIVE MUSIC. The 90s, particularly in the antipodes was awash w amazing heavy alternative bands. POWDERFINGER, REGURGITATER, SHIHAD!!! MY GOD THE MIGHTY SHIHAD FROM NZ. GRINSPOON, THE MAVISs, MAGIC DIRT, THE BEASTS OF BOURBON and on it goes. Plus of course the big 5 or 6 of GRUNGE and all the cool alternative bands that rocked but werent metal. BUT I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE GENERAL ELECTRIC BY SHIHAD. TIMELESS. HEAVY AS FUCK W BASS SYNTH SHIT GOING ON.......OH OH OH, YOU GOTTA LISTEN TO THE FINAL YEAR OF THE UNIVERSE. SLOW AND HEAVY W AMAZING MELODIC BACKGROUND VOCALS. Australia ALWAYS had amazing bands w only the odd INXS OR MIDNIGHT OIL BREAKING INTO EUROPE AND AMERICA. CHECK IT OUT BROOOOOO
“Your last name comes from what your ancestors did for a living”
Bruce Dickinson: *starts sweating*
They were priests.....
Son of Dickin
I shouldn't have laughed this hard at this, lol.
Dickin was a form of deacon?
Lol my last name is a blend of old English word for swamp and old Norse word for cold. I imagine that's just the name taken from their settlement.
“I feel like a lot of people have copied this riff” goes for just about every classic Iommi riff, Finn.
Right about to post that.
Welcome to stoner rock lmaoo
Well he is the Riff Master!
Try this, put yourself into the mind set of what a teen or young person in 1969 would have. Sit down and listen to a few songs off of Abbey Road (Beetles) or Rolling Stones of the same era. This was what audiences and record labels were experiencing, Then put in Black Sabbath''s Debut album and experience the shock and awe of contrast.
i cant roleplay music, that's just bizarre to me
@@DYLANBROCHILL hehe
I get where you're coming from. its impossible to review old music in a fresh way. you're either going to have a ton of nostalgia baggage and love it or hate it for sounding dated. no way around it
@@benjaminwatt2436 Or you actually just enjoy the music because it's good.
There are songs, you love instantly.
Sometimes you may don't like something on your first listen, then you hear it again and suddently it makes click and you love it.
It is kinda weird.
I listened to Free Bird, because it has this legendary solo.
I listened and thought "cool" but i thought it was a bit too boring.
But, for some reason i thought, let's listen to it again and i instantly enjoyed it. Maybe because i listened to it with a different mindset.
@@marvintimke3978 Yeah i get it. I feel the same way about Led Zeppelin. I grew up in the Grunge and Nu-metal area, but I listen to a lot of Led. its good stuff. But sometimes it just doesn't click. I cannot get into black sabbath, i'm just not interested
Finn has solidified himself as a nerd with the Metal Jesus and JoJo reference
I love Metal Jesus, he's a great guy!
Mic The Snare is a sweetheart. His father unexpectedly passed away recently and he's decided to understandably take an extended break from making content. But I'm glad you're keeping his name out there because he's awesome and super funny. Just like you Finn! Love you brother!!! 🤘
I sent this video to a coworker of mine who is a massive classic rock nerd, and now he's visibly furious and wants to fight Finn. Thank you for some of the best on shift entertainment I've had in a while
Sounds like he needs to seek counseling.
@@TheBridgesYouBurn oh boy, does he ever. Should hear some of the shit he comes out with at work. Entertaining, but also just kinda sad.
@Metal Fan I don't think he was serious. Just blowing off some steam because he takes someone saying the mildest criticisms as a personal attack. Its more funny than anything that anyone would tie their identity to something that much
As a classic rock guy who came from metal and hardcore, I'm getting pretty weary of these types. It's entirely possible to love the music of the 70's without being a completely fragile d-bag.
@@robwalsh9843 Me too big 70's rock aficionado and rather than rage like this i prefer to analyze the crticism rather than crying away about it.
The Scorpions had been a band for nearly 2 decades when Hurricane dropped (they formed in 1965) so that’s why they looked old, most of the members were well into their 30s at that point
Yes, Klaus Meine was 36 in 1984.
I never really thought of the scorpions as being metal. I do like the band and have been to a few shows but I was introduced to metal in the mid 90's. To me the scorpions are classic rock but hey that's my perspective.
@@levis503 same deal for Finn McKenty, in fact that’s a common concessus among those used to heavier styles metal from the 90’s, early heavy metal and glam metal does seem more like classic rock in comparison
5:20 totally correct Rob Halford made Leather Daddy the heavy metal uniform
I should have whispered in his ear, "step on me, daddy"
Rob has said he is a vanilla guy, I think the leather image was from the straight guitarist
@@chrisold97 Supposedly the leather was based on Gay Culture, at least Daniel Bukzpan said so in his book.(His band was Slow Horse by the way)
Anybody remember that movie Spun, where he plays the porn store clerk?
You should check out 70's Priest, in particular Dissident Aggressor. Slayer didn't even try to match the heaviness of the original in their cover. Smartly, the original is friggen brutal for mid 70s.
💯agreed. Usually when I’ve come across younger metal fans who aren’t into Priest, I come to find out that they’re not familiar with their ‘70s stuff at all, and their judgement is based on more commercial-sounding singles/videos like Heading Out to the Highway, which is not the best representation of Priest. Songs like Call For The Priest, Dissident Aggressor, Exciter, and Stained Class are a far cry from that.
What about Painkiller? Was brutal for them! (In a good way)
I really liked the stained Glass album
"Come on, feel the noize" was originally recorded by british band Slade ten years before Quiet Riot
Yeah but Quiet Riot made it more famous. Also Twisted Sister covered it.
@@ChristopherJames1993 , maybe in America, but not over here in Europe. SLADE were the kings of glamrock, both songs were number one. Every glammetalband in the late 70's and 80's stole from SLADE. listen to the 70's KISS-anthems for example, Paul Stanley was a hughe fan, so he said himself.
Slade actually has one of the highest rated live albums up there with Frampton comes alive and I find it odd that they're only considered obscure from the American perspective it kind of fit in that category of bands like status quo and budgie
I'd heard the name Judas Priest all my life and knew they were a band. I had no idea they were a heavy metal band, let alone one of the all time revered icons of the genre, hence their name The Metal Gods. Some of the fastest and most musically proficient works of metal in rock music history were created by them such as Stained Class, Screaming For Vengeance, Defenders of the Faith and Painkiller.
In the very early days of getting into metal 25 years ago, I first thought they were dated classic rock (shows how much I knew about metal back then) because they didn't sound like Metallica. Then a few weeks later, I saw the Painkiller video. That shut me up forever on my doubt of Judas Priest's metal status. Then I heard the Jugulator album which is one of the harshest and most gut wrenching works of heavy metal ever made.
They went on to become my all time favourite band and I've seen them the most out of any band.
They did sound like Metallica though imo. Take an album like Stained Class but give it better production, it was speed metal and proto-thrash. Or take for example the song Dissident Aggressor from their Sin After Sin Album, that had to have been the template for Kill 'Em All thrash riffs and an inspiration for what Dave Mustaine wanted to do. (80s Priest actually wasn't as heavy as 70s Priest imo except for Defenders of the Faith, then Painkiller was just a mic drip of epic proportions)
Quiet Riot was the band that got me into heavy metal when I was 8 years old. Found the cassette tape in a culvert outside of our house. Took it inside, took the Charlie Brown read-along out of my tape player, and listened as that first drum intro and chord strike of Metal Health hit my eardrums. I was hooked.
I think your mindset is what’s holding you back when it comes to ‘classic’ metal, especially with Judas Priest
For context I got into metal via Metallica and slayer when nu metal was king, I gradually got into more and more extreme stuff and was huge into death metal and grind core (still am although not as much as back then) and I think 70’s metal is better than just about anything.
If you listen to priest and expect super heavy metal you’ll be disappointed because production values didn’t do the songs anywhere near the justice they deserve, but if you listen to sad wings onwards and realise they were pretty much inventing everything metal was in the 80’s then it becomes a much better experience. Sin after sin for example half of its tracks have some sort of double bass drumming which was rare but they made it a songwriting trait, dissent aggressor played through modern equipment sounds just as heavy as anything released these days. Call to the priest basically invented speed metal which was then perfected in exciter on the next record.
I’d love you to listen through there discography from 1976 - 1979 without judgement (there’s a few stinkers I’ll admit here and there) and try to forget everything you’ve ever heard and really appreciate it for what it was.
I remember hearing living after midnight and turbo lover and thinking why is this band hailed as gods and never got it till I heard painkiller and decided to give them a proper go. Now I’d say there my favourite band, or at least top 3
KISS actually had a dope Metal album (Revenge) in 1992, and a GREAT grunge album (Carnival Of Souls) in 1995! Highly recommend them.
The ending of Black diamond sounds almost proto Doon
@@lamecasuelas2 Ya know, you're not wrong.
You spent waaaaay too little time on Sabbath. Those first 5 Sabbath records can be listened to start to finish with no skips. I miss the experience of complete albums. It's all about singles now. I think that's one of the reasons Ghost works so well for me now. They're bringing back the complete album experience
Nah dude, Changes is and will always be an instant skip
But yeah, first 6 Sabbath records are godtier
Yeah, it really is the first 6. Sabotage is very solid. The last 2 Ozzy records had some bangers too. They weren't bad, but were just less good I guess
I was hoping he would do sweet leaf or hand of doom
@@nickg666 even past the Ozzy era Sabbath was releasing great stuff
Ive never been a huge megadeth fan but rust in peace is a certified masterpiece
Especially Hangar 18!
@@wallaceshawn-zk8iw five magics always does it for me
L U C R E T I A 🔥
When i would live in the early 70s and Metal, Hardcore and Punkrock were not invented yet, i would like this kind of music.
Next, Finn deep dives into Power Metal, especially European Power Metal. As for Dave Effelson, he had to keep the fingers in practise.
He already did this.
They called them the Metal Gods for a reason. JP was an amazing live band!
Their US Festival performance is epic.
Still is ! 🤘
Saw them in March, they slayed.
Still is
I feel like Finn could get into Di’Anno era Maiden because of the raw, in your face punk energy in those two records
Number of the Beast has some of the raw energy also. With Piece of Mind Iron Maiden became the fanciful opera house ballroom dance band everyone knows and loves.
The song Iron Maiden is my favorite Iron Maiden song.
@@christopherbell4543 that song is not memorable at all. I always felt like other than the Blaze Albums that it's the weakest Iron Maiden song. I am just curious about why anyone would like it. I am not trying to imply that the song is pure crap, but I have never heard anyone praise the song. It's still better than songs from a lot of other bands, but through the years I have heard people complain that they should remove it from their Live Set. Gangland is my favorite, and people also have expressed not liking the song in the same way
@@godetonter4764 agree, worst song on that album, others songs are all perfect to me but that one is weak
@@l_h_2 are you referring to the song Iron Maiden, or Gangland?
I got a friend who made playlists full of songs by decade. one for the 60's, then 70's then 80's, 90's, 2000's and 2010's. Listening to the full playlist decade by decade. Doing this helped him get a real appreciation for bands like Motorhead, Black Sabbath and Judas Priest.
I've been to many concerts of all different kinds, Iron Maiden's show was still miles ahead of all the rest. The presentation of the stage, the energy of the band, just everything was perfect
100% agree, what other band would not only drag a WW2-era fighter plane to their shows, but also suspend it above the crowd and have it move like an actual dogfight?
Personally for me, I just like the call them just Heavy Metal or Traditional Metal, it doesn't make them sound old lmao. Traditional Metal is pretty much what started it for me with Sabbath, Priest and Maiden and slowly but surely worked my way up to the more extreme subgenres. But I always seems to come back to these groups. I just love the pounding riffs and guitar solos with this "larger than life" feel I get from them. There's actually a whole slew of younger bands out there that embrace those sounds, make it their own and do it really well (The New Wave of Traditional Heavy Metal; long winded I know). Bands like Riot City, Traveler, Haunt, Enforcer, Ambush, Eternal Champion and Visigoth all come to mind.
Thanks for speaking good of Mercyful Fate. They don't get the recognition they deserve. It would be awesome if you would do more on them and King Diamond. Also, thanks for another great video!!
I loved mercyful fate and diamond solo stuff. Once my grandmother found a "no presents this Christmas" record on her own to give to me for xmas. She had been buying me records with no regard for years. Apparently she was paying attention. Best Xmas gift a 75 year old woman could give me.
@@miked.8532 That's an awesome memory to have!! Your grandma was way more metal than mine \m/
Finn's right though, the vocals really make it or break it for you. I can listen to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest (not religiously but I do enjoy it here and there ) but Mercyful Fate go way over the top and I can't vibe with it. And trust me, teenage me who was beginning his journey into extreme/obscure metal really *wanted* to like this band but idk, once I'd heard early Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Emperor etc. it was hard for me to take this shit seriously. Most people put it under the label of 'first wave' black metal. I was expecting them to sound like Bathory but instead I wound up listening to a bizarre version of Satanic cock-rock 😂 they do have some catchy solos and riffs though, I'll give them that.
The only true satanic metaller.
Hell Awaits was influenced by them.
Bark at the Moon is easily my favorite Ozzy song. Got to see him in 2018 at the Ball Arena. Glad he's still with us.
I heard this song for the first time in the radio of GTA Vice City
Slayer started as a Judas Priest cover band, you can hear some protothrash Judas Priest in their 70s and 80s albums and songs like Stained Class and Screaming for Vengeance.
A band worth exploring because every one of their albums is different.
Yep. They have a core sound & take it in different directions. They don't betray themselves.
They also covered the Priestsong 'Dissident Agressor' on their 1988 album South Of Heaven.
THANK YOU for saying that, because a lot of people under-appreciate Slayer. I've heard people say that they just spammed the same riffs over and over with random-note solos that tail off into nowhere. But when you actually listen to their discography that notion is absolutely wrong, Slayer was great!
@@sean4677 I was talking about Judas Priest, but Slayer albums also have discreet identities, from the NWOBHM of Show no mercy, to proto-black in He'll Awaits, the ferocious RiB, the melodic yet dark SoH and the more mainstream SitA then the more 90s albums and the 3 retrothrash final albums (each sounding different from the rest)
best of all... they tended to get heavier and heavier as time went on... Point of Entry and Turbo are notable exceptions to this rule, but even then there were great songs that I remember decades later.
Glenn Tipton's son was a big death metal fan in th 90s, and that carried over into the songwriting of the Jugulator album... a very underrated and underappreciated part of their discography.
I personally only really like classic metal (it was the music I grew up with) . But I do love hearing about other people's preference in music and find it makes for a stimulating discussion. Taste is after all very personal and there is no right or wrong.
I would absolutely love a part 2 and more of this series!!
As a zoomer who never grew up listening to rock or metal so without looking at things through rose tinted glasses. I want to say that out of all the classic metal bands The Scorpions probably have the most catchy riffs, Iron Madien had the best songs, Black Saabath and AC DC had the most iconic songs, Kiss was the most catchy band, and anything with Dio was really good because he was such a great singer I'd say my favorite old school metal song is probably Rainbow In the Dark by Dio.
It's interesting to see a zoomer take because you can't take any of the (at the time) current era music scene into consideration, you guys literally just look at these bands through an objective lens so it's kinda refreshing to hear
@@KT22672 I don't know if that's how other people my age look at older music but that's what I do I want to be as objective as possible and leave no negativity or positivity bias when looking at anything in life. And one thing that is very important about this viewpoint too is realizing when something is objectively good vs when it's just not for you. A good example of this is how I view Motorhead, they aren’t favorite band in the world but I cannot deny that they are an objectively damn good band nor deny the legacy of that band.
You did if you were born on or before 2000. Metal and punk were massive in the 2000s.
Early Sabbath is great (I like their Debut, Volume 4, Paranoid and Master of Reality). Deep Purple is quite good as well. The 70s stuff has a thick sound, and I like that many bands from that era use organ as an instrument of heaviness, not just guitar alone
I never could figure out how anyone could listen to Ozzy. I find his voice very annoying. besides too Satanic for me
@@benjaminwatt2436 “Too satanic” have you heard of a little thing called black metal?
@@benjaminwatt2436 easily. Ozzy has always surrounded himself with fantastic musicians. Not sure what “Satanic” Ozzy material you’re referring to. The first bunch of Ozzy albums are just excellent, especially the first two, featuring Randy Rhoads.
I don't know why but I fucking love Sabotage. It's different, it is, it's not for everyone. Bought it in 1995 at Video Alley, VHS rentals mostly, but right inside the door were used $2 tapes. It had pink on the case cover's insert...that always seemed odd.
Got Annihilator's "Alice In Hell" that day as well, amazing album.
The same thing happened to me with KISS. I saw the pics and was like "This has got to be the scariest music ever!". Then it turns out to be fluffy crap.
When finn said shooting his jizzy jizzle I fuckin lost my shit 🤣tommy Lee is a legend for that phrase alone 💯😭🤣
The Scorpions are definitely my favorite classic metal band. They have the most satisfying to listen to of those high pitched classic hard rock vocals, and probably the best songwriting and production of any band in this video. No one like you is an S tier classic metal song in my opinion.
Still lovin' you is a monstrous power ballad. Never approached.
No one you is a damn good song 🤘
I love 70s scorpions for sure.
speedys coming and sails of charon are killer tracks
I hate to be 'that guy', but without Uli Jon Roth they just lost something. What a guitarist!
Favorite quote from this video: “I never thought fringe was brutal.” 😂
I love how metal is constantly evolving but I grew up in the 80's so that golden age of metal (NWOBHM, the hair bands, early black/death, etc..) will always be my favorite. Even now though, I'm still finding new-to-me-bands from that era and earlier that I missed since we didn't have the internet back then! Its always good to trace stuff back to the roots, you might fight stuff that really grabs you.
I do the same sometimes. I go down the rabbit hole just a inch at a time because I find so many bands and then go buy their merch. Weird how a lot of em are still around.
King Diamond sounds like he is having so much fun being King Diamond, thats why I love him so much!
Every time Rock you like a hurricane really kicks in it sounds like the batteries dying on your walkman as the solo kicks in
Just sat down to watch but as a classic metal fan (especially of Iron Maiden and Mercyful Fate, I think its great your willing to give stuff outside your normal tastes a fair hearing.
I remember interviewing Ian Hill from Judas Priest and he basically confessed that Rob Halford was objectively the one to bring the leather / s&m look into the metal scene -taken from his experience in gay clubs back then. so hear this, classic metal fans : you're ripping from gay dudes from the 70's y'all
Yes, Rob was inspired by that look through his involvement in the gay leather scene, but once he implemented that in Priest, it took on a different life of its own in metal’s history.
@@WillieSurvive1 for all of those interested in the history of that look, and the strange mixing of brutality and gender fluidity in this era of rock and metal, I recommend checking Tom Of Finland's art (as seen on this video) and Kenneth Anger's "Scorpio Rising". As you say, it lived a life on its own afterwards, but its concept is clearly rooted in gay culture.
@@irisdesaint-aubindaubigny8682come to think of it, I think Rob bringing the leather look into metal not only came from the gay leather scene, but it also came partly from biker culture, seeing how he began wheeling a Harley out onstage in 1979. It all seemed to work together in a certain way and just became its own thing. When I first saw Rob bring out the Harley on their ‘79 tour, I found that to be the heaviest and most powerful visual ever.
Hahaha this was great! Before Hardcore and Death Metal there was Ozzy, Dio, Judas Priest, Mercyful Fate, Iron Maiden, Metallica etc...got to admit those were good times growing up listening to that stuff!! Ghost reminds me of Kiss, their look doesn't match the cheesy rock music lol
Ahahaha I can relate so much to the randomly seeing Halford in an airport. While waiting for a connecting flight in I think Copenhagen, my frequent flier mom got us into the fancy lounge area. And then Serj Tankian was just chilling there. I didn’t wanna bother him, and also I dooont really care about SOAD. But he’s a very recognizable dude lol
Also yes, “The Trooper” was the first Iron Maiden song in a guitar hero game lol. It was added as a bonus song in the Xbox 360 version of guitar hero 2. Although “Wrathchild” was in the weird PS2 cash grab “GH Encore: Rocks the 80s.” I barely even count pre-dickinson Maiden. Then GH3 had “Number of the Beast,” Rock Band got “Run to the Hills, and then eventually the full Powerslave album and most of NotB. The Trooper started it all, it opened the floodgates for Maiden plastic guitar content. Similar to when they finally convinced Metallica to put “One” in GH3. the RB guys had managed to secure a three pack of random Metallica downloadable songs, but One was when they really shifted from being against that shit. Led to them collaborating on a whole-ass Metallica game.
Sorry, as you can see by my profile pic, I am the person who’s gonna spout a bunch of Guitar Hero history any time it comes up
I’m a total weirdo who got into metal via Alice In Chains post lane Stanley’s death and saw their influences were Black Sabbath and got into everything metal regardless if it was Iron Maiden, king diamond, pantera, morbid angel or suicide silence I just like it all. A lot of my friends growing up never listened to classic metal. Just modern death metal or deathcore. I think it just depends on whether you deep dive into influences of the bands you like. I love at the gates because of the black dahlia murder. Great video as always. Very entertaining.
Nice! AIC was the first heavy band I fondly remember as a kid, besides Soundgarden. Then when I was teen moved to Korn, then got into Slayer.
Motörhead is definitely the one to check out if you like faster songs, they’re not only influenced by metal but also punk as well!
Rob is definitely the shit. He was at a random show a doom metal band I like was playing a few weeks back. I think it's rad that he still gets out there and goes to see underground bands play
I’m sure some of the nerds besides myself has already pointed this out but part of the reason some of those bands looked old was because they actually were, at least compared to like motley Crue or Skid Row who actually started when they were in their early 20s for the most part. Bands like scorpions, Twisted Sister, and quiet riot had been around since at least the mid 70s and we’re well in their 30s by the time they had hits in the 80s
The “Rob Halford as a neighbor trash can discussion” made me LOL
The lack of Motörhead in this is upsetting
The song Painkiller is amazing! It never gets old. I hear the intro of that song and it's like I get shot full of adrenaline and I want to start bouncing off the walls. For whatever reason that song triggers my adrenaline probably more so than any other song i can think of.
Sabbath created it, Priest gave it an identity, Maiden perfected it
Hey Finn! Love the channel and your content and I wanted to say this was a cool video. I always wanted to see you react to old school metal and as a fan of these old bands and what not, I'll admit it's hard to get into it if you prefer the heavy stuff, which I also love alot.
Personality my top three old school bands have to be Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and Megadeth (if you wanna put them there like Metallica). I think it's just cool to see how far the genre has come, see the roots, hear the typical sounds and riffs we take for granted then watch it evolve into something even better. It's part of history if you wanna look at it like that. Much love!
Fun video. One of the biggest bands I had to "learn" to like was Mercyful Fate but I'm glad I did!
Same I tried don’t break the oath because it was the classic, didn’t get it at all . Oddly I got into Melissa much faster because it’s got way more in common with Priest imo who I was already a massive fan of
The Scorpions are from Hanover in then West Germany. There was a metal scene in the East. Being a metal fan in the east was enough for the Stasi to open a file about you.
Guess I was lucky gowing up with Iron Maiden, Ozzy Osbourne, Scorpions and so on. That stuff still speaks to me at 23 yo :)
2023 prediction: Finn starts a nardwuar-esque show where he just asks metal musicians if they’re circumcised and how hard they shoot
I think you may have something there
A band called Slade wrote/performed Cum on feel the noise.
I'm in the same boat as you Finn. I got into metal via Slipknot and then got into all the heavier subgenres before I ever touched classic metal. I understand why it's so impactful and beloved, but I could never get into it. I like songs here and there from all the major bands. I've seen Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden live. It just never clicked for me.
Slipknot self titled was the first album I bought with my own money, and in that moment every boomery "metal" band went on my permanent shit list
Same. Did the slipknot/SOAD/A7X/etc pipeline into heavier stuff then went back to older bands. They just don’t hit the same. I like 1 or 2 songs from each band but I can’t listen to an entire album. I’d be bored to death.
Old Slayer is really the only one I can but I feel like it’s because it seems way more punk influenced than other old metal bands. It’s not nearly as corny
@@ryannachtrab so you listen to dad metal, aka this gens boomer metal. Ya boys from sliplnot, who I like, would get spanked by maiden, especially when it comes to the guitar playing
@@phaaaze9984 whats corny about maiden, priest, or slayer? Have you not listened to SOAD serj and daron sounded corny aa hell on some of their songs
@@danieltoft2116 oh naaahhh😭 “would get spanked by maiden” 💀
Oh no, before watching this video - please don't switch on me Finn. As of now, you and I are the last 2 people on Earth who do not worship the ground Iron Maiden walks on (for the same exact reason too - grabbed Beneath the Remains from a bargain CD bin and Maiden didn't hit)
We are 3 lol
@@TheKurzzze There you are! I heard you existed, but now it's real
I’m with ya
Early Maiden with Paul Di’Anno on vocals? Those first two Maiden albums were game changers.
@@WillieSurvive1 Thanks for this, as I don't know if I've heard any non-Dickinson Maiden. Bruce is a hell of a singer, but his vocals are just not my thing. I am interested to hear Paul now
Venom's Black Metal album (1982) has a guitar tone that can be heard on Nausea's Extinction LP.
Hi Finn, I'm a Brazilian fan, I also do BJJ and I really like your channel and I listen to Nu Metal a lot, even though I'm 15 years old. Thanks. A hug from Brazil. 🤘🏻🤙🏻!
Thank you!
You should check out the live version of fear of the dark by Iron Maiden to get a true representation of the band
People really love Kiss. Dimebag and Vinnie Paul were buried in Kiss caskets for Christ sake.
Chuck Schuldiner was also a Kiss fan, i guess.
He did cover God Of Thunder.
11:57 Dude... I love Metal Jesus! Didn't expect that.. nice
My room mate plays in a classic metal band and he used to wear latex tights where you could deffinetely see that he is circumcised.
Shoutout to Venator.
Venator rules
I got into Metal in 97/98, right about the time Metallica put out Garage Inc, which of course had covers of Sabbath & Mercyful Fate. I was also heavy into Pantera, and both of those bands stressed the importance of Sabbath. I remember Anselmo in an interview saying that "anyone who doesn't have the first 6 Sabbath albums isn'ta real metal head" or something to that effect. I had like 2 or 3 Sabbath albums already, and I made sure to go get the others pretty quickly. Understanding the roots and forefathers of Metal seemed important to me when I was first getting into it.
Before watching this video, I didn't even know that Scorpions and Kiss are considered metal. I listened to them back when I was a kid and mostly listened to rock CDs that I got from my dad and therefore thought of them as classic rock. It's kinda funny what was considered heavy back then, when you're used to today's metal music.
Agree, KISS is the absolute furthest thing from metal.
@@dougk359 I would disagree. When I first saw Kiss in the 80s, 95 percent of their audience were metal heads. They were one of the few bands that united fans of thrash and glam. God of Thunder, Unholy, the Devil is Me, are just a few of their metal songs, not to mention the blood, fire, and makeup.
KISS has always been a rock ‘n roll band at heart, but dabbled in metal along the way when they kind of lost their identity by the early ‘80s. “Creatures of the Night” from 1982 is quite the heavy metal album, but by the late ‘80s, KISS were knee-deep in pop metal. Through it all, they’ve been such a huge influence on so many musicians and bands, from pop metal to thrash and death metal bands.
And Scorpions are very much a hard rock band, but they also have had their metal moments - especially their ‘70s material.
Scorpions were considered heavy metal in the 80's, but when Metallica came & changed the wider perception of what Metal sounds like. A fair bit of what was considered heavy metal has been kinda re-purposed as Classic Rock, especially because of how much rotation it got alongside Aerosmith, AC/DC, Zeppelin, etc.
Metal Jesus is one of if not the nicest dudes on the youtube scene. Just a guy sharing his love of retro gaming with all of us!
Huge respect Finn! Yeah sure it sounds dated now, but it's brilliant music
"Solid songwriting" ...you nailed it
Sepultura also did an awesome cover of Symptom Of The Universe!!
Judas Priest sad wings of destiny is a must listen, Iron Maiden’s first album is no skip,
First off, I love your content. Secondly, DUDE, I had a similar experience waiting for a flight in Arizona. I guess he lives or lived in AZ and was flying somewhere. He was all by himself and I was pretty positive it was him. Then I saw the golden “RH” monogram on his carryon and I had to go say hi. I said “excuse me, but are you who I think you are?” He looked up grinned just slightly and said “I bloody hope you don’t think I’m Madonna.” PRICELESS! He was kind enough to shake my hand and talk a little bit. I was in the military at the time and he was telling me about some of his friends in the military. I thought about asking for an autograph but the moment was so perfect and cool just being able to talk to him like a friend that I didn’t want to ruin it. This was probably around 06-07.
The lore is expanding, I like it! We got hot dog rock, we got tattoo shop music and gas station music now, good. Did I forget something?
Also the barbeque friend is now accompanied by the trash can neighbor, good good...
Never really into classic metal either, btw, except for some exceptions.
One important point about this kind of music:
What I feel like with bands like Iron Maiden or Gamma Ray is that these were probably super fun to see live in their prime. From what I saw of Maiden live on RUclips, they were super energetic, Bruce Dickinson especially was overflowing with energy. And Gamma Ray have a DVD Live in Japan on RUclips, and Kai Hansen (guitarrist and later on actual main vocalist) is just such a joy to watch. Super virtuosic guy, he is one of those who make it all seem so effortless and fun. Truly awesome guy. So yeah, I think many of those bands offered a great spectacle, def more entertainment than many bands nowadays
Death covered God of Thunder on the At Death's Door II compilation on Roadrunner. That compilation also introduced me to Fear Factory and Cynic.
Also deaths cover of painkiller is phenomenal
The disparity between the imagery and the actual music is insane
4:48
Referencing the Point of Entry album cover
Qualifying Mercyful Fate as tattoo shop music is so accurate. There's that weird artsy scene that's buoyed to skating where you can't tell if it comes from 70s, or 80s. You'll have fmr skaters get involved in design it seemed like that "Americana" sailor Jerry style was the most prominent. The people involved dressed like 70s' rockers and like they've served at pelican bay at the same time.
Kind of feels though like rock and metal fans pay a ton of attention to 50 year old hugely popular bands that are no longer active and overlook a lot of newer bands that are trying to break through or market their ideas. Personally I prefer supporting and engaging in the latter, which just means you probably won't be into a lot of classic metal. Which is fine. All of those people are rich 70 year olds anyway. There are a lot of masterpieces being written today that people will miss because they'd rather try get into Black Sabbath or Metallica or something..
Totally agree
"Erik Skolling" I agree. Plus most of those bands that are still active today don't have the spark they used to have quality wise and are way past their prime imo
It’s all been done before. This is why the older bands are so revered and their music has stood the test of time. They were innovators. When Sabbath, Priest, and Maiden hit the scene, there was nothing else like it out there. Same when the thrash explosion occurred.
I love you Finn you are always making me laugh and smile with your content 😇😇😇
Thank you!
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Good Work!
Was way too excited that you brought up Badlands! Haha
I can add another obscure fact about Badlands, the singer is Ray gillen who was the singer of Black Sabbath. He replaced Glenn Hughes, although he never actually sing on an album himself.
I find it fun how somebody who loves poppunk thinks classic metal singing is corny :)
Just an observation hehe. I have musical preferences that makes zero sense compared to each other too.
I think it's because pop punk has an element of self awareness and humour to it whereas classic metal is fully unironic
And growling and pig squeals, talk about corny
Should check out Thin Lizzy if you haven’t…..anything from ‘75 through ‘83 (especially the late 70s) is great. Riffs for days. People talk about the dueling guitars with Maiden, but Brian Robertson and Scott Gorham had a sound that was untouchable. Spin the Live & Dangerous album. 👍🏻👍🏻
Boyz r back in Town, Jailbreak & Bad Reputation to name a few.
My dad is a big Halford fan and introduced me to Fight. War or Words have a lot of sick tracks like Into the Pit.
I had no idea the band Fight existed. Thanks man!
As a weed smoker, I hate how accurate Finn is about weed sometimes
Klaus Meine was in his mid 30s for that video. There's a podcast by a reputable journalist about a rumor from within the CIA that they wrote Wind of Change and they have clips of this metal tour that went to the Soviet Union before it fell and it's hilarious seeing this old insightful nice guy next to the guys in Motley Crue.
My theory about Kiss is that to get into them you have to have been under the age of ten when you first heard them.
My first exposure to Kiss was seeing their masks in the Halloween section at my local long’s drugs was when I was in first grade. I thought they were the raddest thing. Then I actually heard their music and I was confused….
I discovered Kiss when I was 21. Now I'm 23 and I love them.
Wow Finn happy to hear you plug Badlands, one of the best things to come out of the 80's
i really appreciate your content. much peace and blessings on your life. keep your head cold . and keep yourself to yourself. happy holidays! from guatemala
Thank you, you too!
It was always hard for me to get into this stuff. I grew up listening to mostly 90s and 2000s rock and metal. These classic metal bands felt more like classic rock bands.
I never understood the attitudes of metal heads, like Metal was so edgy and dark, when you watch a lot of this classic stuff and its just cheesy and silly
@@benjaminwatt2436 what part of the song run to the hills or ace's high is cheesy?
@@benjaminwatt2436 How many Golden Age horror movies are still scary by today's standards? Yet horror fans still enjoy movies like Frankenstein Nosferatu and admire the legacies they created within the genre they love.
@@danieltoft2116 The theatrics of Iron Maiden could be a little campy. Nobody is insulting you personally, sometimes classic metal can be campy because they are offshoots of hard blues rock and hard blues rock always is very theathrical
@@benjaminwatt2436 ….. mommy’s basement dweller
It is hard me for me to go backwards too. I listened to Metallica, AC/DC, Black Sabbath, etc when I was a kid. But now I just can’t get into any of the classic metal. Also; I’m About to buy some more of your merch. 😊
Thank you!
That was a tom of finland drawing for anyone asking, hes the guy that invented the leather daddy look (way back in the 1960s).
By the time rob came out the only response people had was are you getting back together with the preist
Apparently the whole "they looked so old" thing is a psychological trick our brains play. For most people, their haircuts and clothes they were is pretty set in stone by the time they're 25-30. We then tend to associate those styles with old people, so seeing old photos of them makes you think they look old.
Well on top of that, people back then smoked and drank WAY more than we do now, and also had more environmental toxins affecting them. It's not *just* psychological
@@ElFlippage the smoking and drinking thing sure, but environmental toxins? Maybe in the workplace or if they had lead paint, but they didn't eat mountains of hyper processed garbage while being constantly exposed to microplastics and other weird shit like philabens, etc and as a result of that the average testosterone level was way higher back then.
I love you too dude. Rock on 🤘
"let me get my hands on that sexy man Rudy!"
actually heard that a few times from around the barricade while working the photo pit at the Tacoma Dome this past weekend
With metal I only really listen to classic bands. To me they had a lot more about them both sonically and their attitude/character. If someone puts on a contemporary metalcore band I get bored instantly, yeah it'll sound polished and be technically good but just lacks in real substance to me
Rob halford is a fuckin legend
Metal Jesus rocks is that gen x guy who rented the house next door and had a Sega CD when it was new.
Love him!
"I feel like a lot of people copied this riff" That's the Black Sabbath experience, they did it all first!
Painkiller is to this day still perhaps the best metal song out there. At least in my opinion.
They lost me at Turbo and Ram it down wasn't much better. Then painkiller came out and I had to give 'em a chuck Norris thumbs up.
I don't know whether it's the best or not, but to me that song is the definition of heavy metal
That song melts brains