I think I need to clarify two things about the Eversolo BEFORE our follow-up video later in the week. First, while the A8 has what appear to be 2 HDMI ports, one in and one out, it is NOT a multi-channel or home theater device. The Eversolo will not pass through nor send a video signal to your TV. It is also a stereo-only product, meaning you cannot send a native multi-channel or surround sound signal to its HDMI ARC/eARC input and get surround sound. If you connect this to your TV (like I did), you must make sure your TV is outputting PCM Stereo via its HDMI ARC/eARC port to work with the A8. Many TVs do this automatically, so there's no need to worry, but if yours doesn't, that's the setting to check for. The HDMI port found with the A8's digital outputs is known as an IIS (or i2S) connection. While it uses a form of an HDMI-style termination, it is NOT an HDMI connection in the traditional sense. Apologies if I was unclear about this or simply glossed over it without further explanation. This is a relatively new way to connect digital components, such as a streamer or transport, to an outboard DAC, but it is not yet standardized*. (*source: Wikipedia) PS Audio and a few other companies use this digital connection method on their devices rather than the older-school method, which was RJ-45 or similar. The A8 supports DSD and PCM output through this IIS/i2S HDMI-looking port. Like the HDMI input, though, the HDMI-looking IIS/i2S port DOES NOT support video and is NOT INTENDED for home theater use. Hope this clears up any and all confusion, and I apologize for any misunderstandings. We will no doubt discuss this topic and more in greater detail in our follow-up video.
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless. I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects. Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
@robinsonbrand : This might have been mentioned elsewhere, but since I deem it important: The DMP-A6 outputs MultiChannel 5.1 via it‘s HDMI out. This is for multi-layer SACD‘s , which I play vie SMB from either PC or NAS. It also outputs DTS ( CD ). For the SACD, you can select the 2.0 or 5.1 stream on the DMP-A6‘s touch screen. As far as I can see, the A8 does not offer this.
I don't need and can't really afford kit like this. I'm just compelled to listen anyway - I still learn something about kit in my budget, and your logical non-drama approach really stands out from the pack - and tbh I just really enjoy listening. Thank you!
I think your new format with a longer discussion with Kristi will be greatly appreciated . The two of you make a great review pair and the thoughts and user experience you both discuss matters when thinking about buying a product .
We were hoping (and still have some) that most people would be happy about the change, but boy, this has some people feeling all sorts of ways. @@tommysshinebox1661
@@KristiWright Don't worry we will get used to it eventually. I like the second follow up video. It gives us input because you are including our comments in the following discussion.
I have the A6 Master edition which I have also upgraded the internal power supply, I had an A8 on trial to compare, as I do not use the in-built DACs (I use a Chord m-scaler/hugo TT2 combo) the difference is not easily heard, there is a tiny difference, but I was not able to blind A/B them. Also, the latest firmware for the A6 now includes the same fully suited functions as the A8, so DSP, PQM and EQ with multiple settings for all inputs is brilliant. All I can say is a big thank you to Eversolo, A6, A6ME and A8 are just fantastic. for reference I have a Michi x3 and B&W 804 D4s downstream of my chord combo DAC 🙂 a set up made in heaven !
@@CohibaJoe using an external DAC , as I do with the Hugo TT2 and M-scaler combo, so using the A6 ME or A8 as just digital carriers, there is really no major difference, based on my hearing through my quite revealing system. If you use the internal DACs there is a noticable difference, the A8 is much better, however the A8 internal DAC vs the A6 ME with new PS and external DAC Chord Hugo TT2/m-scaler, the A6 in much better.
@jamiermathlin Do you connect to the DAC via spdif or usb? I have an A6 (not master) connected to my Benchmark DAC through spdif as I use the usb connection on the Dac for my Melco NAS. I understand the A6 controls the clocking on spdif and the Benchmark for the USB. So, I’m wondering if I should upgrade to the A6 master to get the benefits of the better clocks.
Thanks for sharing your comparison of the A6ME with upgraded LPS to the A8. I have the DMP-A6 with the upgraded LPS as a streamer, with external Denafrips POntus II 12th-1 dac and Denafrips Iris 12th ddc and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects and Parasound 2100 preamp (better volume knob and home theater bypass and L/R balance). source=Apple Music lossless
@@Surreyg This is a good point, I have tried both spdif (TOSlink) and USB and the truth is that TOSlink is a much better sound when connecting from the A6ME to my Chord Electronics M-Scaler (which is connected to the HugoTT2 via twin coax) compared to the USB, and it is not a small difference, I would estimate 10-15% improvement in smoothness and clarity. Trust me I was surprised when I tried this. I am not sure if the improvement comes from the A6ME output or the M-Scaler input, but the difference is noticeable !
@@mrpmj00 As you are using an external DAC, I would suggest that there is little improvement between the A6 and A8 when just being used as a digital carrier. Also with the new software update for the A6, bringing the A8 features, I think the A6 is a solid performer !!
I bought the A8 a couple months ago and I have it running into the Schitt Tyr monoblocks to my Magnipan LRS+’s. I use the rca out into a svs PB2000. I love the simplicity of the setup compared to previous separate setups I have had. The sound quality is excellent. The total set up was 6500$ for a great midfi system. So far the Eversolo A8 is my favorite hifi component I have owned in 20 years in this hobby. Hopefully it remains reliable.
I love Kristi's new idea!!!! This way we get more videos of the best channel on you tube!! THANK YOU. You are a good husband, I can tell , Kristi is truly your queen!
Just wanted to pop in and say this video looks amazing. In my humble opinion, your sense for aesthetics and design is on another level compared the other 99% on youtube. Looking forward to seeing the next one. No pressure ;)
this was all so impressive and complex, i had to stop half way thru, and just play a record and appreciate my mediocre sound system due to the fact that its the artist and the music that brings me emotional response and not my gear (although i am fairly shallow and love looking at it all). love your channel!
Great review Andrew. I have enjoyed my A8 now for 4 months. This well done unit is the best bargain I have ever owned in 50 years of audiophilia. The A8 feeds a Parasound Halo driving Cornwall 4s. Fills my listening room with beautiful music.
Thanks for the review Andrew! :) I heard Eversolo DMP A6 as a transport paired with Gustard R26 R2R DAC at a friend's house. It was very impressive. The Gustard R26 is an incredibly good DAC, airy, musical, analog, smooth, but at the same time fast and very dynamic, with a huge sound stage. I hope I managed to do a test with my friend comparing Eversolo A6+ Gustard vs Eversolo A8.
@@valentinpetrita9335 Not night and day, but definitely better. The A6's own DAC sounds a bit sharper and the sound image extends into the high range, while the Gustard is smoother and more balanced.
I rarely come across a product that reacts exactly how I would want a product to behave. I swear, it's like EverSolo read my mind when designing and developing the A8. If it was a full-width product and came in slightly different finishes, it would be absolutely perfect for me!
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Next you need to check out Gustard A26. For sure. Awesome video man. I really hope Eversolo works out a better solution for Sub crossover and implementation.
Hi Kristi and Andrew! I purchased the DMP-A8 when it first hit the US market last year. So far, it has been fantastic. I took the leap and spent the extra money based on some early reviews. I now use it as my dedicated media hub and utilize it's internal DAC. It's that good. I use the XLR outputs directly to a pair of monoblock amplifiers and a powered subwoofer via the RCA outputs. It has superb sound quality (dare I say audiophile high-end level sound?), super flexible in it's usability with a myriad of inputs and outputs. It is so good, I removed my separate Denafrips Ares II DAC and Denafrips Hades preamplifer and use the Eversolo as a unified source/preamp instead. The screen and it's multitude of options and VU meters are great. The internal DSP and PEQ has been a life saver with my difficult-to-control room acoustics. The A8 is built exceptionally well and feels and sounds like the asking price. In general, the internal streamer is quite good, but I have just a few nits to pick. It is a little sluggish scrubbing or switching through tracks. The drill down in streaming menus and accessing existing playlists and favorites can be a little clunky. I previously had the Bluesound Node, while the A8 sounds better, the Node's menu format may be just a little bit easier to operate. All in all though, this thing rocks...highly recommended.
I think the fact that you voted for it with your wallet says it all. Especially when someone like you guys does it. You get tons of access to products for review well beyond what a person just searching for that one thing does. So it has to be one damn good product and it seems to be. Glad to see more and more competition in this segment. Love the review and all the points! Can’t wait to see more conversation episodes. Hope everyone has an awesome day!
Full disclosure, I don't care how Eversolo's marketing team or people conduct themselves, as they (at least in my experience) are a little heavy-handed with their wants/needs, which is a shame because their products CAN and DO stand on their own. I bought the A8 at retail instead of putting up with them. Had it not performed I would've returned it, but seeing as how it did (and then some) I paid the credit card bill and this baby is MINE! Glad I did, too, as it's harder to get your hands on than unobtainium.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I totally get it. I think everyone should do exactly that. Buy it, try it yourself, and return/find something else if it didn’t fit. Instead of chasing the hype. I’m glad the product is actually worth buying and I do agree that their marketing should take a chill pill… as do others as well! Enjoy your new baby! 💪
I have been running my A8 for about a month as a replacement for my Cambridge CXNV2. The upgrade was not incremental, but enormous. The dac alone is worth the asking price.
Great review. Imagine this having dirac included for bass management. Since you brought up NAD, what about the 658 and or 399 you reviewed? You classified those as sterile sounding. What is eversolo doing that doesnt make it sound sterile to you? Also, when paired with amps you tried, is sound quality better than the rotel ras5000 you just reviewed and loved?
The Eversolo doesn't have an internal amp, so the character of the amps I have in-house shines through when I use the A8. The NAD gear uses types of Class D (or hybrid amps) that I just don't like --but that's just me and my opinion. When paired with the 8300XP, I get Levinson vibes. When paired with the A35.2 from Primare, it was more reminiscent of my Krell or Rotel amps back in the day.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thank you 🙏🏼 I’m cracking a Guinness and the Soda bread is almost done. Cheers you two. 😊😊 I’ll keep an eye out in the members only section for the sales. 🥰🥰
I've had my A8 for about a week now, majority of my $ have gone to a premium vinyl setup, but I put a 2TB SSD in the A8, transferred over 400 uncompressed CD's to it, and now have a very fine digital hub for a pretty complete system. Besides everything you mentioned, I think the smaller box of the A6 looks bad, and gladly payed the extra for a nicer looking piece of kit in the A8.
Thank you so much!! You can run a sub through 1 or both of the unused analog audio outputs if you make sure that both the XLR and RCA are on. You need to set the crossover and volume on your subwoofer but you can use the eversolo EQ/DSP to apply PEQ to the subs response. It’s not ideal but it works.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks for the detailed info :) may i please ask can DSP HPF/ LPF be set individually for RCA and XLR ? have i understood this correctly?
I have been waiting for the NAD M66 to come available. This review has me thinking twice about that now. At half the price this might be my next component purchase. Thanks for the great review!
Thank you for the great review! I was wondering if you’d pick an Eversolo A8 over a Cambridge Audio MXN10 + Eversolo Z8 DAC if the evaluation metric would be stereo sound quality or stereo listening experience (no matter how subjective this is)? Is it still the case if you “normalize” sound quality with cost (A8 is ~2k vs ~1.2k for the combo)? This would be connected to a Marantz Cinema 50 driving a pair of Klipsch 8000f-ii + klipsch rp-1400 sw (in stereo).
Thank you for your support, to answer your question, I'm afraid my answer will also take simplicity into account rather than be based solely on sound quality. In this instance, given all the extra functionality you get with the A8 OVER the Z8 DAC, I would save up in order to spend a little more and just get the A8 over the two-box solution you've laid out. The DACs (to me) inside the A8 are superior to the Z8 and I prefer the Apple Music integration with the Eversolo versus the lack-thereof with the Cambridge. And I say this having had (or currently having) both setups you're cross shopping. The A8 is the answer to many of my hifi questions, and now that I have it, I'm saying goodbye to a number of redundant products in my home. Hope this helps! Thanks again!
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By “normaling with cost”, I mean taking into account the price difference ** if ** this even makes sense or can be done reasonably in this product category (tbh I’m not sure about it)
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Thank you! Yes, I totally agree those (simplicity, screen, etc.) are important factors And, yes, I planned to count those in as well. I had been leaning towards A8 even before your review, but somehow I was under the false impression (and I know this could be super subjective as well) that the DAC chips in Z8 are the superior ones. Having the opposite true, it really makes A8 a hard to beat product. Thanks again!
This is the type of unit i would seriously look at if i were getting into streaming. The fact that its fully balanced is cool. The fact that its a capable preamp with the added feature to rip cds is pretty cool.
Nice! This is what I was hoping Eversolo would produce. One more analog input, active room correction, and its pretty much perfect. Eversolo and Wiim are really taking it to the established players, hopefully it pushes them to iterate faster and compete better on price. Random aside, I see Eversolo has a power amp, that I assume is meant to pair with this. Do you plan on testing that?
Very enthusiastic review, thanks Andrew. I just ordered one for my secondary system. I am excited to compare it to the ~$6,800USD Cary Audio DMS-700 DAC/Streamer/Preamp that I use in my reference system.
I have a feeling you'll likely find the A8 provides a sensation of greater detail at the "expense" of artificial warmth or added mid-bass and softer treble voicing. Please check back in and let me know how it goes!
Thank you Andrew. I completely agree on the comparisons between products with significant delta's in price point. At the end, as an audiophile in a on-going journey I am building my system to my specific budget and I cannot help to wonder what if saving for the next tier would actually be rewarding. Of course value is a completely subjetive variable but ultimately it serves a lot that although you may have subjective taste's, you do have experience enough to discern between a wide range of products that we usually do not have the budget, availabily or time to do audition or experience. Thanks again, Regards from Mexico!
At 4:57 we see the selection for using both XLR and RCA outputs at the same time. If you select both you lose most of the low bass from the XLRs. I thought there was a crossover doing this or something in the DSP/EQ doing it but there wasn't. Turned down the vol on my subs and the mains had no bass using both outputs. I switched back and forth for 2 days and somehow the little SMSL D6S budget DAC sounds a little better driving amps directly via XLR than the A8.
I have dmp-a6 XLR to rotel power amp and marantz cinema 70s RCA out to the same rotel ! Almost best of both worlds . Surround experience and stereo performance at one click away ! Great review.
Hey Andrew and Kristi. I'm looking to buy curtains to block off a hallway to reduce the echo in my open concept house. Do you have any suggestions for what fabric to use, or any specific curtains that you have used? Thanks!
At the moment we have West Elm european linen but we are changing those out soon. We have also ordered from this brand: bit.ly/493o3EI. They make a good product at a reasonable cost. Warning curtains are expensive! I recommend going with a heavier fabric with blackout lining and ordering an extra panel than you think you'll need, which will further help reduce the echo. There is another brand of curtains that we are planning to order; however, until I receive their product, I'm going to withhold that info. Thanks for the support!
Love my A8 I received 2 months ago. Good break in was about 100 hours. Agree with Andrew on his review. Last firmware update did not make it Roon Ready, I emailed with Eversolo customer support and Roon won't get to the A8 for another several weeks. If you use Roon it will only play airplay at AC3 format. I use Tidal connect and the DMP A8 rocks the sound. A8 I2S is compatible with Pontus II 12th Ann edition. This box is incredible value, just buy it.
The last firmware update has broken the embedded Tidal player in my A8. Now it struggles to play tracks that have high bitrate because of insufficient buffering even when connected to a gigabit Ethernet. But the Tidal Connect still works fine
I get it. Some products have functionality to check a box. I've got 3 DACs in my HT setup (TV, BD player, Yamaha HT Receiver). Only the receivers DAC actually gets used. It's nice when a product that has multiple functionalities actually does them all well. Streamer ✓ DAC ✓ Preamp ✓. And to me this level of performance is commensurate with the price. You wanna better DAC, buy the A6, but your gonna spend more or at the very least take up more space. I hate when people discount space (or in this case, saving it) as a commodity. To most (arguably all) consumers size, looks, ease of use, cost and the Almighty sound quality all matter. If you can check all those boxes, you've got a real winner.
Last week the A8 is now "Roon Ready" after an update. There it is in the upper left corner of the display. No more Airplay!!! My A8 feeds my Parasound A21+ then to my Cornwall IVs, and it really does sound wonderful.
I have the a21+ as well. I’m thinking of switching my P5 preamp to the A8. How has the A8 been as a preamp? Can I use it in home theater bypass mode like the p5?
Interesting comparison with the M66 NAD. I have it and coming from the M12 features aside, the sound quality is on a whole new level. The DMP-A8 would have to be really darn good, because the NAD is fabulous! NAD M66+Bryston 4b3 Amp = 🔥Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the NAD, thank you and great review as always!
I'm also curious about how M66 and the A8 compare. From what I've heard the M66 has even more features with DIRAC live, a phono stage, etc. However, regarding sound quality, they both use state-of-the-art DACs and implementation that measure completely transparent, so I doubt there should be any difference between them.
@@datbaguettedoe6436 I'm literally the opposite of what Andrew mentioned on his review... I have no input on the DMP-A8 so I cannot compare it. ( but not gonna lie I did consider it as it had everything I was looking for and at a great price point!) but coming from NAD I am a bit of fanboy and although I do believe there are some amazing bargains in Hi-Fi that do compete with higher end products all this is also very subjective. Yes, I agree with you the NAD I would consider transparent. I've only had it for 2 weeks, I still need to spend more time with the Dirac room correction, I'm still learning. Cheers!
@@irisfinchmusic How so? the NAD M66 has a analog bypass mode. You can most certainly connect an external DAC, now if you're referring to the M12 then yes... you were definitely stuck with the internal DAC as it's an all digital preamp only converting to analog in the output stage.
This channel goes against every home theater dude sitting in a Valencia lounger movie chair and kaelidescape and JVC projector. That front living room shot is just modern museum quality with that livable and bright surfaces. Someone needs to interview Andrew and Kristi aesthetic and going against the home theater grain. The last good Classé was the Classé SSP-300 Surround-Sound. Can we correct this? The Apple Music for Android app is side loaded and otherwise works perfect except for the landscape and portrait mode. Not needing Air Play or Bluetooth is precisely what is needed. Wait until Zidoo and Eversolo comes out with a surround sound processor. Next level.
Thank you for the awesome content. I’m currently in the market for a matching setup to my new KEF R3 Metas + subwoofer. The use will be 50/50 music/movies in my living room which I consider problematic because it has a large window wall on one side. Any advice I should go for the Yamaha rn1000a or 2000a because they have room correction or the combination of Eversolo DMP8 with Audiolab XP8300 ? The source of my music will only be Tidal.
If you're not too familiar with DIY room EQ/PEQ then I think the Yamaha 2000A would be a pretty great way to go with your speakers and sub, because Yamaha's room correction process is similar to what I advocate for, only, it does it for you! The 2000A is as good as the Eversolo/Audiolab combo, it's just more streamlined and all-inclusive. I don't think you'll go wrong either way, honestly. Hope this helps and thanks for your support!
Great timing! Been looking at this in my search for a steamer for Apple Music mainly. This is at the top of my list so far in that regard. Looking forward to any follow up vids!
Great review, thanks. It’s great you’re committed to good value hifi. Based on the last vid, “We’ve actually been working on stuff…” only adds to the marital speculation. 😂❤
Thanks, and yes, that is a way better product than last week's offering. lol I am always up against the pervasive high end stereo vs. A/V but have chosen A/V and just soldier on as my wife and I truly are a 50/50 music/ movie family. lol
Я являюсь счастливым обладателем а8,когда первый раз включил его он работал без низских частот и это было не приятно ,прогрев его дня через три он запел отлично!это мои наблюдения,коммутация у него отличная,все желаемое можно подключить,главная фишка для меня что на нем можно слушать apple music,да и радио у него отличное и выбор большой,мне очень нравится,у нас в России цена на него нормальная,канадская звукотезника у нас очень дорогая,для меня покрайне мере,поэтому eversolo - это очень выгодный продукт
Love the A8. I had the A6, then got the A8 when it first came out. The sound quality is definitely better on the A8, at least with my Klipsch Heresy IV speakers. The A6 was brighter & harsh when doing the ab comparison between the two. Sold the A6
In the follow up can you do a bit more on the preamp functionality? Balance control, switching left right channels , mono mode and ‘old fashioned’ tone control?
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless. I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects. Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
Been waiting for this one! Great video! I clicked on your Amazon link Andrew (to buy the A8) but unfortunately it appears Amazon is out of stock. 😢 I have been needing a new pre/dac/streamer for a few years now and this checks all the boxes for me. After I get my hands on the A8, the only thing left to fill the hole in my system is a new power amplifier. I have Model 5 speakers so, with the A8 (whenever it comes back in stock), I am thinking I need a power amplifier with a little warmth....I just dont want the whole chain to end up sounding too "sharp" on my ears resulting in fatigue. Then again I suppose I could just use the A8s PEQ to adjust to taste. This really seems like a fantastic product! Any advice on accompanied power amplifiers is welcome too. Thanks Andrew, and I love the new trial format of a second video every week!
Hi Andrew and thanks for the review. Just one thing that's been bothering me. Simon from "13th Note Reviews" was offered a free A8 unit from Eversolo in exchange for a review. Simon could have kept the unit for himself afterwards but he declined the offer and did not review the sample for obvious moral reasons. I was wondering if Eversolo had approached you with any such offer? You mentioned in the review that you bought the unit with your own money...
Thank you for the review. I was planning to buy the Marantz CD50n because I also wanted a new CD player but now I am leaning more towards the A8 and an extra CD player 😂 Different question: where can I buy the concrete looking furniture? I like it a lot!
hahaha .. 70% of the questions in here would be answered if they wrote it in google instead ...or looked it up on the webpage. Yikes. That's an easy help to your algorithm statistic. =)
i live in the philippines, i would love to go thru your links to buy this… but international shipping here is a disaster. Anyway i placed an order (locally) based on your review. i’m so excited… i was looking for a streamer that can do apple music… a lot of streamers can’t!!! also based on what your saying i don’t need to buy extra preamp… which is a huge plus… till now i’ve been using my yamaha avr to power and process my r11, and was thinking of getting a dedicated stereo preamp… but this just solved two issues i had… apple music and preamp. Thanks Andrew
This is not intended to be anything but neutral - but having kristi weigh in on her thoughts and the way its done - her being off camera - is the main reason that i think this channel is so successful its different, its more compelling - while i respect andrew's reviews - kristi - i hate to say really makes the channel work - im not saying the follow up reviews and mixers with kristi -are not a good idea - they are - again not intended as any wierdness - but having her weigh in - to the review is so clever and unique - its the oil that keeps the engine running so smoothly
Hei Andrew. Love your reviews and I did learn a lot from them.I’m a person who likes to enjoy good music without have to sell a kidney to do that😂😂I’m watching you from Oslo,Norway. Today I was to an hi-fi show ,to see, to hear and maybe to buy Yamaha R N2000A😊 but …l saw and heard Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition paired with Eversolo AMP-F2 amplifier and it sound absolutely amazing. Now I really don’t know what to do…I have a pair of old Klipsch rf82 and Klipsch 112 s subwoofer . Help 😅
I loved 'trash talk' and the idea of a different follow-up format - but - you might want to consider that old format on the reviews was actually what differentiated your channel. I valued Kristi's views on the product from the perspective of how my partner would feel about 'living' with it just as much as Andrew's product evaluation and comparisons. Putting that section in was genius, makes what you do unique and added some welcome unscripted opinion and humour (see recent rants on NAD, Diamond Series style bypass and Kristi's take on power amps or the universal remotes in the 21st century). As entertaining as these moments are, they also publicly underline your independence and credibility in the space. Keep the old format and get trash talk? Pretty please 🤣
I lived with the A8 for several weeks as I awaited service on my Modwright tube stage moded CXN. For the first week I used it as an all-in-one and I was left there quite unimpressed, but then when I disengaged the preamp/volume control, in favor of the passive volume stage of my Van Alstine SET 120 control, the performance improved quite substantially, leading me to conclude the preamp/volume control of the A8 significantly lowers the ceiling of its DAC/Streamer performance. I'd give it an A as a DAC/Streamer in its price class, but a C as an all-in-one front end, so just consider that depending on how you plan on using it.
The volume output varies based on how you configure the outputs. If you isolate RCA or XLR versus leave them both on. Did you try that? Also, applying or turning on the DSP functionality lowers the output by 5dB in order to preserve headroom as some may choose to boost certain frequencies versus cut them.
@@delvalle9256 The moded CXN is far superior across the audio spectrum, either with the preamp engaged or bypassed vs the A8, but it's a significant modification with a world class tube stage, and the modification isn't being done anymore... So it's not really a fair fight. There's only something like 35 Modwright moded CXNs out there.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews yes, I isolated the outputs and never had the DSP engaged. The presentation was much more vivid when the volume/preamp was bypassed. It was not subtle in my system.
@@matthewjoy1864 I have a modded one myself, hopefully it won’t break. You can’t deny as a streamer the CXN software although vastly improved from where it started is really not on par with the eversolo software especially outside of Spotify, Tidal , Qobuz .
I've had the A8 for a couple of days and I'm very happy I returned it. It's a great build and I like all the possibilities. But I don't like the sound it produces at all. It sounds flat, thin and harsh. It made me lose the fun of listening to my music. Firstly I swapped the A8 with my current dac. Later I connected my dac to the Xlr input of the A8. So I have also tested the pre amp of the A8. It hardly added or changed anything positive compared to when my dac is directly connected to my power amp.
Some folks don't like a transparent or colorless sound, and that's okay. You need to invest in the product that is going to bring you the most joy. Appreciate you sharing your experience.
If "coloration" leeds to far more seperation, depth and letting the speakers disappear, then I can't have coloration enough. Listening to the Eversolo Dmp-a8 made me just sit there waiting for the music to start playing. It's a pity because I liked everything else about it beside the choppy and hard clicking volume adjustment. But you can live with that.
Yep, my A6 sounds clear but it's flat (2D wall of sound) compared to my r2r Denafrips Ares II 12th which sounds 3D. I liked the Ares so much that I moved it to my living room 2ndary system and upgraded to the Denafrips Pontus II 12th-1 in my primary system.
I've been testing an A-8 extensively for a month. I'm returning it however. The preamp is not up to the quality of the rest of the system. I'm using an inexpensive Topping Pre90 preamp with the A8 as DAC only. It's a much better sound. Even though both units use similar chips for the preamp function. Topping just implements it better. Overall the A8 is great value, especially with components of similar price. But if your other system components are better, you'll hear its flaws. I'm now using a Denafrips R2R DAC, which is much better sounding.
I’m debating if I should get this. It looks well built and fully featured but I wonder if they will be able to support it for the long run. Somehow Evesolo reminds me of the OPPO company.
I really enjoy your guys channel. So you mentioned an issue with the new ChiFi products in a recent discussion about the problems with the Wiim Amp. I really like the features of the A8, but am a bit concerned about $1980. And only a one year warranty. Doesn't instill much confidence for me to purchase. What is your opinion of Eversolo's quality. Does it really sound that great, or is everybody in on hyping it up? Thank you.
I had the Eversolo DMP-A6 for probably 7 months and I love it. I have Parasound JC2BP preamp and A21+ power amp and Focal Sopra 1's in a medium size room. . I used the A6 as a DAC and streamer. I had my eyes on the DMP-A8 since it first came out. The HDMI earc, more digital inputs were something i wanted. All the reviewers was saying the preamp was extremely good as well. After seeing your review i ordered one thinking i will could sell the A6 and JC2BP preamp and that would cover the cost plus have some extra cash. The A8 as a preamp was really good if i used the DSP to make the sound a bit warmer to match the Parasound. But unfortunately the drop in gain was dramatic and I would have to have the volume on the A8 to -25db and have the gain on the power amp maxed out to get any kind of loud music ( 85-90db ). I normally had the power amp at half gain with the Parasound preamp and still have lots more headroom if i wanted really loud for movies. If i didn't have a 300wpc power amp, it probably wouldn't really work well as a preamp if someone liked loud movies and music. Especially if you had low sensitive speakers. Ill keep it as a preamp for a while and see how it works as my daily driver. I may have Parasound JC2BP for sale if someone is looking for one. Lol.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Been thinking of updating my ARCAM fmj D33 DAC for a while! I use the D33 as a preamp also but the streaming capability of the DMP-A8 is very enticing! ;)
Hello Andrew I'm sorry, but you made a mistake. At minute 1:43, that is not an HDMI port but an IIS port even though the connector is identical. You should make a correction ASAP because if some unfortunate person follows you and connects the TV to that port, you can have both devices on your conscience :) Otherwise an excellent review as always Thank you
In regards to the HDMI, does it have a 2.1 pass through that allows for PS5 features like 120hz/ VRR etc? Does it stream bit perfect hi res Qobuz services? Thanks & great review
I have an Denafrips Ares II dac. Would you get the A8 and use its internal dac or use an A6 connected to the Ares II? Yes I would need to buy the A6. Really looking forward to the new Kristi's Komments..........😀
I have the Ares 12th, and actually like the A8's internal DAC better (connected through USB or I2S with good cables). I usually prefer R2R DACs, but the chips in the A8 are really good!
Another great review! Can you clarify how you are connecting the A8 to your Apple TV and can you play it through the Sony AVR while still getting its impressive sound benefits?
AppleTV ➡ Sony X90L HDMI ARC/eARC ➡ EverSolo HDMI input. As for the Sony AVR question, you can't connect the Eversolo to the Sony as a preamp, but you could use it as a streamer/DAC into the AVR.
is the sound quality way apart or small, comparing the MiniDSP SHD to DMP A8? only focussing on the DAC conversion and analog preamp output section. ? thanks.
I would really love to have something like this, but the problem is, there is no headphone connection. That is the only problem I have with this device. But it really looks stunning!
I added a Aune S17 to my system. At $700 it still keeps the cost well below competing preamps. Generally the installed headphone amps aren’t the best anyway.
There are actually a myriad of ways to handle the incoming signal. I'd have to double-check the manual, but if you leave EQ and DSP off, I believe no changeover or conversion takes place.
Looking forward to your take on the Classe pre/stereo power combo. It's funny, but I consider this combo to be something of a high-end bargain because I've consistently preferred them to much pricier gear I've home tested. But I guess you might already be tilting in a somewhat different direction! So long as your opinions are honest (which I believe they are) I don't mind some sacred cows being sacrificed...
Hey Andrew. Great channel! Would you recommend the A8 as a preamp to the audiolab 8300xp? Any issues (eg with volume control /gain matching etc) encountered with this direct setup? Thx
I think I need to clarify two things about the Eversolo BEFORE our follow-up video later in the week. First, while the A8 has what appear to be 2 HDMI ports, one in and one out, it is NOT a multi-channel or home theater device. The Eversolo will not pass through nor send a video signal to your TV. It is also a stereo-only product, meaning you cannot send a native multi-channel or surround sound signal to its HDMI ARC/eARC input and get surround sound. If you connect this to your TV (like I did), you must make sure your TV is outputting PCM Stereo via its HDMI ARC/eARC port to work with the A8. Many TVs do this automatically, so there's no need to worry, but if yours doesn't, that's the setting to check for.
The HDMI port found with the A8's digital outputs is known as an IIS (or i2S) connection. While it uses a form of an HDMI-style termination, it is NOT an HDMI connection in the traditional sense. Apologies if I was unclear about this or simply glossed over it without further explanation. This is a relatively new way to connect digital components, such as a streamer or transport, to an outboard DAC, but it is not yet standardized*. (*source: Wikipedia) PS Audio and a few other companies use this digital connection method on their devices rather than the older-school method, which was RJ-45 or similar. The A8 supports DSD and PCM output through this IIS/i2S HDMI-looking port. Like the HDMI input, though, the HDMI-looking IIS/i2S port DOES NOT support video and is NOT INTENDED for home theater use. Hope this clears up any and all confusion, and I apologize for any misunderstandings. We will no doubt discuss this topic and more in greater detail in our follow-up video.
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless.
I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects.
Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
What's the $10,000 preamp/streamer?
One is actually an IIS output, just a different digital output option.
Real test is again the Auralic Altair g1.1.
Other British reviewer stated the g1.1 sounds better
@robinsonbrand : This might have been mentioned elsewhere, but since I deem it important: The DMP-A6 outputs MultiChannel 5.1 via it‘s HDMI out. This is for multi-layer SACD‘s , which I play vie SMB from either PC or NAS. It also outputs DTS ( CD ). For the SACD, you can select the 2.0 or 5.1 stream on the DMP-A6‘s touch screen. As far as I can see, the A8 does not offer this.
Not in the market for a device like this, but still enjoy listening and learning. Always appreciate the quality of your content.
Thanks so much!
I don't need and can't really afford kit like this. I'm just compelled to listen anyway - I still learn something about kit in my budget, and your logical non-drama approach really stands out from the pack - and tbh I just really enjoy listening. Thank you!
I think your new format with a longer discussion with Kristi will be greatly appreciated . The two of you make a great review pair and the thoughts and user experience you both discuss matters when thinking about buying a product .
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Plus…best part…TWO videos per week instead of one. Woot!
We were hoping (and still have some) that most people would be happy about the change, but boy, this has some people feeling all sorts of ways. @@tommysshinebox1661
@@KristiWright Don't worry we will get used to it eventually. I like the second follow up video. It gives us input because you are including our comments in the following discussion.
I have the A6 Master edition which I have also upgraded the internal power supply, I had an A8 on trial to compare, as I do not use the in-built DACs (I use a Chord m-scaler/hugo TT2 combo) the difference is not easily heard, there is a tiny difference, but I was not able to blind A/B them. Also, the latest firmware for the A6 now includes the same fully suited functions as the A8, so DSP, PQM and EQ with multiple settings for all inputs is brilliant. All I can say is a big thank you to Eversolo, A6, A6ME and A8 are just fantastic. for reference I have a Michi x3 and B&W 804 D4s downstream of my chord combo DAC 🙂 a set up made in heaven !
@@CohibaJoe using an external DAC , as I do with the Hugo TT2 and M-scaler combo, so using the A6 ME or A8 as just digital carriers, there is really no major difference, based on my hearing through my quite revealing system. If you use the internal DACs there is a noticable difference, the A8 is much better, however the A8 internal DAC vs the A6 ME with new PS and external DAC Chord Hugo TT2/m-scaler, the A6 in much better.
@jamiermathlin Do you connect to the DAC via spdif or usb? I have an A6 (not master) connected to my Benchmark DAC through spdif as I use the usb connection on the Dac for my Melco NAS. I understand the A6 controls the clocking on spdif and the Benchmark for the USB. So, I’m wondering if I should upgrade to the A6 master to get the benefits of the better clocks.
Thanks for sharing your comparison of the A6ME with upgraded LPS to the A8.
I have the DMP-A6 with the upgraded LPS as a streamer, with external Denafrips POntus II 12th-1 dac and Denafrips Iris 12th ddc and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects and Parasound 2100 preamp (better volume knob and home theater bypass and L/R balance). source=Apple Music lossless
@@Surreyg This is a good point, I have tried both spdif (TOSlink) and USB and the truth is that TOSlink is a much better sound when connecting from the A6ME to my Chord Electronics M-Scaler (which is connected to the HugoTT2 via twin coax) compared to the USB, and it is not a small difference, I would estimate 10-15% improvement in smoothness and clarity. Trust me I was surprised when I tried this. I am not sure if the improvement comes from the A6ME output or the M-Scaler input, but the difference is noticeable !
@@mrpmj00 As you are using an external DAC, I would suggest that there is little improvement between the A6 and A8 when just being used as a digital carrier. Also with the new software update for the A6, bringing the A8 features, I think the A6 is a solid performer !!
I bought the A8 a couple months ago and I have it running into the Schitt Tyr monoblocks to my Magnipan LRS+’s. I use the rca out into a svs PB2000. I love the simplicity of the setup compared to previous separate setups I have had. The sound quality is excellent. The total set up was 6500$ for a great midfi system. So far the Eversolo A8 is my favorite hifi component I have owned in 20 years in this hobby. Hopefully it remains reliable.
Do you crossover on the subwoofer itself or do you make use of the internal DSP ?
I love Kristi's new idea!!!! This way we get more videos of the best channel on you tube!!
THANK YOU.
You are a good husband, I can tell , Kristi is truly your queen!
Appreciate that!
He's the best!
Just wanted to pop in and say this video looks amazing. In my humble opinion, your sense for aesthetics and design is on another level compared the other 99% on youtube. Looking forward to seeing the next one. No pressure ;)
Thank you!
this was all so impressive and complex, i had to stop half way thru, and just play a record and appreciate my mediocre sound system due to the fact that its the artist and the music that brings me emotional response and not my gear (although i am fairly shallow and love looking at it all). love your channel!
Great review Andrew. I have enjoyed my A8 now for 4 months. This well done unit is the best bargain I have ever owned in 50 years of audiophilia. The A8 feeds a Parasound Halo driving Cornwall 4s. Fills my listening room with beautiful music.
Have owned the A8 for 3 months or so now and totally agree with your comments. its a game changer for sure!
So glad you're enjoying it as much as we are!
Thanks for the review Andrew! :) I heard Eversolo DMP A6 as a transport paired with Gustard R26 R2R DAC at a friend's house. It was very impressive. The Gustard R26 is an incredibly good DAC, airy, musical, analog, smooth, but at the same time fast and very dynamic, with a huge sound stage. I hope I managed to do a test with my friend comparing Eversolo A6+ Gustard vs Eversolo A8.
It is night & day difference adding the gustard to A6 or just little improvements ?
@@valentinpetrita9335 Not night and day, but definitely better. The A6's own DAC sounds a bit sharper and the sound image extends into the high range, while the Gustard is smoother and more balanced.
Happy Sunday morning Andrew and Kristi. Great review. Andrew you're absolutely glowing over this one. Keep the good stuff coming.
I rarely come across a product that reacts exactly how I would want a product to behave. I swear, it's like EverSolo read my mind when designing and developing the A8. If it was a full-width product and came in slightly different finishes, it would be absolutely perfect for me!
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Next you need to check out Gustard A26. For sure.
Awesome video man. I really hope Eversolo works out a better solution for Sub crossover and implementation.
Really Good review! I have a wish….give LUMIN products a try. I just love my LUMIN u2 mini!
Hi Kristi and Andrew! I purchased the DMP-A8 when it first hit the US market last year. So far, it has been fantastic. I took the leap and spent the extra money based on some early reviews. I now use it as my dedicated media hub and utilize it's internal DAC. It's that good. I use the XLR outputs directly to a pair of monoblock amplifiers and a powered subwoofer via the RCA outputs. It has superb sound quality (dare I say audiophile high-end level sound?), super flexible in it's usability with a myriad of inputs and outputs. It is so good, I removed my separate Denafrips Ares II DAC and Denafrips Hades preamplifer and use the Eversolo as a unified source/preamp instead. The screen and it's multitude of options and VU meters are great. The internal DSP and PEQ has been a life saver with my difficult-to-control room acoustics. The A8 is built exceptionally well and feels and sounds like the asking price. In general, the internal streamer is quite good, but I have just a few nits to pick. It is a little sluggish scrubbing or switching through tracks. The drill down in streaming menus and accessing existing playlists and favorites can be a little clunky. I previously had the Bluesound Node, while the A8 sounds better, the Node's menu format may be just a little bit easier to operate. All in all though, this thing rocks...highly recommended.
Really appreciate you sharing your experience! It's a great piece, for sure!
I think the fact that you voted for it with your wallet says it all. Especially when someone like you guys does it. You get tons of access to products for review well beyond what a person just searching for that one thing does. So it has to be one damn good product and it seems to be. Glad to see more and more competition in this segment.
Love the review and all the points!
Can’t wait to see more conversation episodes.
Hope everyone has an awesome day!
Full disclosure, I don't care how Eversolo's marketing team or people conduct themselves, as they (at least in my experience) are a little heavy-handed with their wants/needs, which is a shame because their products CAN and DO stand on their own. I bought the A8 at retail instead of putting up with them. Had it not performed I would've returned it, but seeing as how it did (and then some) I paid the credit card bill and this baby is MINE! Glad I did, too, as it's harder to get your hands on than unobtainium.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I totally get it. I think everyone should do exactly that. Buy it, try it yourself, and return/find something else if it didn’t fit. Instead of chasing the hype. I’m glad the product is actually worth buying and I do agree that their marketing should take a chill pill… as do others as well! Enjoy your new baby! 💪
Damn. I'm impressed. I'm keeping this on the short list if I get a streamer/pre-amp. Thanks guys.
I have been running my A8 for about a month as a replacement for my Cambridge CXNV2. The upgrade was not incremental, but enormous. The dac alone is worth the asking price.
What amp are you using?
@@ivandragicevic6786 Pair of Schiit Aegir, Class A monoblocks.
I did exactly the same - the upgrade to the EverSolo DMP A8 is huge in comparison
@@TheKeldman Amp or powered speakers? I have CXA81 integrated amp, wonder if it would be a good combo with A8.
Great review. Imagine this having dirac included for bass management. Since you brought up NAD, what about the 658 and or 399 you reviewed? You classified those as sterile sounding. What is eversolo doing that doesnt make it sound sterile to you? Also, when paired with amps you tried, is sound quality better than the rotel ras5000 you just reviewed and loved?
The Eversolo doesn't have an internal amp, so the character of the amps I have in-house shines through when I use the A8. The NAD gear uses types of Class D (or hybrid amps) that I just don't like --but that's just me and my opinion. When paired with the 8300XP, I get Levinson vibes. When paired with the A35.2 from Primare, it was more reminiscent of my Krell or Rotel amps back in the day.
I still use the A6 Daily. Stunner. Dropped the Linear Powesupply upgrade in it.
I will likely sell my Z8 and A6 now that I have the A8, but agree, the A6 is impressive. Hope all is well! Loved your NAD review BTW.
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Thank you 🙏🏼
I’m cracking a Guinness and the Soda bread is almost done. Cheers you two. 😊😊
I’ll keep an eye out in the members only section for the sales. 🥰🥰
Sold! Sold! Sold! My only wish would be a sub out with bass management and standard with width chassis-minor inconveniences only.
I've had my A8 for about a week now, majority of my $ have gone to a premium vinyl setup, but I put a 2TB SSD in the A8, transferred over 400 uncompressed CD's to it, and now have a very fine digital hub for a pretty complete system.
Besides everything you mentioned, I think the smaller box of the A6 looks bad, and gladly payed the extra for a nicer looking piece of kit in the A8.
I love this review! Now I want the A8!!! Looking forward to the follow-up video with Kristi!!💖🥰💖
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Good morning Andrew and Krist. Thanks for the review. This seems to be a kickass unit across the board.
Absolutely kick-ass! Thanks for watching!
Excellent review! I purchased one after watching. Stupid question, how did you hook up a subwoofer to the DMP A8?
Thank you so much!! You can run a sub through 1 or both of the unused analog audio outputs if you make sure that both the XLR and RCA are on. You need to set the crossover and volume on your subwoofer but you can use the eversolo EQ/DSP to apply PEQ to the subs response. It’s not ideal but it works.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks for the detailed info :) may i please ask can DSP HPF/ LPF be set individually for RCA and XLR ? have i understood this correctly?
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Could you add a minidsp hd2x4 to add subs and crossover?
I have been waiting for the NAD M66 to come available. This review has me thinking twice about that now. At half the price this might be my next component purchase. Thanks for the great review!
We requested to review the NAD but I'm not sure if we'll be given the opportunity.
NAD can't play native Apple Music lossless and hi-res lossless. NAD can't rip CDs or store 4TB music locally.
@@mrpmj00 Good info and all the more reason to go with the Eversolo. Thanks!
Wow that looks nice with the 8300. And your space is looking great too. Have a great week.
Thanks, you too!
I’ve been waiting for this one
Hope it was worth the wait!
Thank you for the great review! I was wondering if you’d pick an Eversolo A8 over a Cambridge Audio MXN10 + Eversolo Z8 DAC if the evaluation metric would be stereo sound quality or stereo listening experience (no matter how subjective this is)? Is it still the case if you “normalize” sound quality with cost (A8 is ~2k vs ~1.2k for the combo)? This would be connected to a Marantz Cinema 50 driving a pair of Klipsch 8000f-ii + klipsch rp-1400 sw (in stereo).
Thank you for your support, to answer your question, I'm afraid my answer will also take simplicity into account rather than be based solely on sound quality. In this instance, given all the extra functionality you get with the A8 OVER the Z8 DAC, I would save up in order to spend a little more and just get the A8 over the two-box solution you've laid out. The DACs (to me) inside the A8 are superior to the Z8 and I prefer the Apple Music integration with the Eversolo versus the lack-thereof with the Cambridge. And I say this having had (or currently having) both setups you're cross shopping. The A8 is the answer to many of my hifi questions, and now that I have it, I'm saying goodbye to a number of redundant products in my home. Hope this helps! Thanks again!
By “normaling with cost”, I mean taking into account the price difference ** if ** this even makes sense or can be done reasonably in this product category (tbh I’m not sure about it)
Thank you! Yes, I totally agree those (simplicity, screen, etc.) are important factors And, yes, I planned to count those in as well. I had been leaning towards A8 even before your review, but somehow I was under the false impression (and I know this could be super subjective as well) that the DAC chips in Z8 are the superior ones. Having the opposite true, it really makes A8 a hard to beat product. Thanks again!
This is the type of unit i would seriously look at if i were getting into streaming. The fact that its fully balanced is cool. The fact that its a capable preamp with the added feature to rip cds is pretty cool.
I would still buy this based on its preamp/DAC and DSP functionality alone. I think the streaming stuff is a bonus in this case.
Nice! This is what I was hoping Eversolo would produce. One more analog input, active room correction, and its pretty much perfect. Eversolo and Wiim are really taking it to the established players, hopefully it pushes them to iterate faster and compete better on price.
Random aside, I see Eversolo has a power amp, that I assume is meant to pair with this. Do you plan on testing that?
Very enthusiastic review, thanks Andrew. I just ordered one for my secondary system. I am excited to compare it to the ~$6,800USD Cary Audio DMS-700 DAC/Streamer/Preamp that I use in my reference system.
I have a feeling you'll likely find the A8 provides a sensation of greater detail at the "expense" of artificial warmth or added mid-bass and softer treble voicing. Please check back in and let me know how it goes!
This unit looks very promising, modern Hifi I would say. Also, I like your guises approach on after the review segments.
Thank you Andrew. I completely agree on the comparisons between products with significant delta's in price point. At the end, as an audiophile in a on-going journey I am building my system to my specific budget and I cannot help to wonder what if saving for the next tier would actually be rewarding. Of course value is a completely subjetive variable but ultimately it serves a lot that although you may have subjective taste's, you do have experience enough to discern between a wide range of products that we usually do not have the budget, availabily or time to do audition or experience. Thanks again, Regards from Mexico!
At 4:57 we see the selection for using both XLR and RCA outputs at the same time. If you select both you lose most of the low bass from the XLRs. I thought there was a crossover doing this or something in the DSP/EQ doing it but there wasn't. Turned down the vol on my subs and the mains had no bass using both outputs. I switched back and forth for 2 days and somehow the little SMSL D6S budget DAC sounds a little better driving amps directly via XLR than the A8.
Looking forward to the double format follow-up! 😊
If only the eversolo was as gorgeous as the Classé 😂
Great review, thank you!
The Classé is pretty!
I have dmp-a6 XLR to rotel power amp and marantz cinema 70s RCA out to the same rotel ! Almost best of both worlds . Surround experience and stereo performance at one click away ! Great review.
Haha, similar setup here where both AVR and stereo tube preamp are connected to rotel power amplifier.
I have the same. It is a pity that it lacks Home Theatre by pass
Hey Andrew and Kristi. I'm looking to buy curtains to block off a hallway to reduce the echo in my open concept house. Do you have any suggestions for what fabric to use, or any specific curtains that you have used? Thanks!
At the moment we have West Elm european linen but we are changing those out soon. We have also ordered from this brand: bit.ly/493o3EI. They make a good product at a reasonable cost. Warning curtains are expensive!
I recommend going with a heavier fabric with blackout lining and ordering an extra panel than you think you'll need, which will further help reduce the echo.
There is another brand of curtains that we are planning to order; however, until I receive their product, I'm going to withhold that info.
Thanks for the support!
Love my A8 I received 2 months ago. Good break in was about 100 hours. Agree with Andrew on his review. Last firmware update did not make it Roon Ready, I emailed with Eversolo customer support and Roon won't get to the A8 for another several weeks. If you use Roon it will only play airplay at AC3 format. I use Tidal connect and the DMP A8 rocks the sound. A8 I2S is compatible with Pontus II 12th Ann edition. This box is incredible value, just buy it.
How can electronics break in? My PC didn't get faster after 100 hours :(
The last firmware update has broken the embedded Tidal player in my A8. Now it struggles to play tracks that have high bitrate because of insufficient buffering even when connected to a gigabit Ethernet. But the Tidal Connect still works fine
I get it. Some products have functionality to check a box. I've got 3 DACs in my HT setup (TV, BD player, Yamaha HT Receiver). Only the receivers DAC actually gets used. It's nice when a product that has multiple functionalities actually does them all well. Streamer ✓ DAC ✓ Preamp ✓. And to me this level of performance is commensurate with the price. You wanna better DAC, buy the A6, but your gonna spend more or at the very least take up more space. I hate when people discount space (or in this case, saving it) as a commodity. To most (arguably all) consumers size, looks, ease of use, cost and the Almighty sound quality all matter. If you can check all those boxes, you've got a real winner.
Last week the A8 is now "Roon Ready" after an update. There it is in the upper left corner of the display. No more Airplay!!! My A8 feeds my Parasound A21+ then to my Cornwall IVs, and it really does sound wonderful.
I have the a21+ as well. I’m thinking of switching my P5 preamp to the A8. How has the A8 been as a preamp? Can I use it in home theater bypass mode like the p5?
Interesting comparison with the M66 NAD. I have it and coming from the M12 features aside, the sound quality is on a whole new level. The DMP-A8 would have to be really darn good, because the NAD is fabulous! NAD M66+Bryston 4b3 Amp = 🔥Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the NAD, thank you and great review as always!
I'm also curious about how M66 and the A8 compare. From what I've heard the M66 has even more features with DIRAC live, a phono stage, etc. However, regarding sound quality, they both use state-of-the-art DACs and implementation that measure completely transparent, so I doubt there should be any difference between them.
@@datbaguettedoe6436 I'm literally the opposite of what Andrew mentioned on his review... I have no input on the DMP-A8 so I cannot compare it. ( but not gonna lie I did consider it as it had everything I was looking for and at a great price point!) but coming from NAD I am a bit of fanboy and although I do believe there are some amazing bargains in Hi-Fi that do compete with higher end products all this is also very subjective. Yes, I agree with you the NAD I would consider transparent. I've only had it for 2 weeks, I still need to spend more time with the Dirac room correction, I'm still learning. Cheers!
NAD can't play native Apple Music lossles and hi-res lossless.
The NAD doesn't have any digital outputs - you'd be stuck with the internal DAC.
@@irisfinchmusic How so? the NAD M66 has a analog bypass mode. You can most certainly connect an external DAC, now if you're referring to the M12 then yes... you were definitely stuck with the internal DAC as it's an all digital preamp only converting to analog in the output stage.
Great Sunday Andrew & Kristi.
Thanks! Appreciate you joining us!
So happy when Eversolo recently updated online the A6 software to include the EQ feature. Yeah 👏👍
This channel goes against every home theater dude sitting in a Valencia lounger movie chair and kaelidescape and JVC projector. That front living room shot is just modern museum quality with that livable and bright surfaces. Someone needs to interview Andrew and Kristi aesthetic and going against the home theater grain. The last good Classé was the Classé SSP-300 Surround-Sound.
Can we correct this? The Apple Music for Android app is side loaded and otherwise works perfect except for the landscape and portrait mode. Not needing Air Play or Bluetooth is precisely what is needed.
Wait until Zidoo and Eversolo comes out with a surround sound processor. Next level.
Thank you for the awesome content. I’m currently in the market for a matching setup to my new KEF R3 Metas + subwoofer. The use will be 50/50 music/movies in my living room which I consider problematic because it has a large window wall on one side. Any advice I should go for the Yamaha rn1000a or 2000a because they have room correction or the combination of Eversolo DMP8 with Audiolab XP8300 ? The source of my music will only be Tidal.
If you're not too familiar with DIY room EQ/PEQ then I think the Yamaha 2000A would be a pretty great way to go with your speakers and sub, because Yamaha's room correction process is similar to what I advocate for, only, it does it for you! The 2000A is as good as the Eversolo/Audiolab combo, it's just more streamlined and all-inclusive. I don't think you'll go wrong either way, honestly. Hope this helps and thanks for your support!
Get a wiim, run the room correction and add the settings into your EQ of any able device. Cheap and decent Room correction 😉
Great timing! Been looking at this in my search for a steamer for Apple Music mainly. This is at the top of my list so far in that regard.
Looking forward to any follow up vids!
Of course I gave it a thumbs up but ....I need that KAF (Kristi Approval Factor) . Will be tuning into the follow up.
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You'll find that here: ruclips.net/p/PL0M9xqvUDwdxMlk6xa68W7kf0YA0Xn43u&feature=shared
Was considering buying it, now with your affirmation I feel ready to purchase
I think it's worth it. I'm not returning mine.
Great review, thanks. It’s great you’re committed to good value hifi. Based on the last vid, “We’ve actually been working on stuff…” only adds to the marital speculation. 😂❤
Thanks, and yes, that is a way better product than last week's offering. lol I am always up against the pervasive high end stereo vs. A/V but have chosen A/V and just soldier on as my wife and I truly are a 50/50 music/ movie family. lol
Really like the glasses look! Hope y'all are doing well!
I have the DMP-A8 and I love it. Great review Andrew. Dead on.
Я являюсь счастливым обладателем а8,когда первый раз включил его он работал без низских частот и это было не приятно ,прогрев его дня через три он запел отлично!это мои наблюдения,коммутация у него отличная,все желаемое можно подключить,главная фишка для меня что на нем можно слушать apple music,да и радио у него отличное и выбор большой,мне очень нравится,у нас в России цена на него нормальная,канадская звукотезника у нас очень дорогая,для меня покрайне мере,поэтому eversolo - это очень выгодный продукт
Love the A8. I had the A6, then got the A8 when it first came out. The sound quality is definitely better on the A8, at least with my Klipsch Heresy IV speakers. The A6 was brighter & harsh when doing the ab comparison between the two. Sold the A6
In the follow up can you do a bit more on the preamp functionality? Balance control, switching left right channels , mono mode and ‘old fashioned’ tone control?
Noted.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews apologies, I’m an old school guy- it’s probably in all the dsp functionality you discussed but I get lost😀
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless.
I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects.
Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
The Cambridge sound quality as being described as “analogue sounding”, is very attractive
Been waiting for this one! Great video! I clicked on your Amazon link Andrew (to buy the A8) but unfortunately it appears Amazon is out of stock. 😢 I have been needing a new pre/dac/streamer for a few years now and this checks all the boxes for me. After I get my hands on the A8, the only thing left to fill the hole in my system is a new power amplifier. I have Model 5 speakers so, with the A8 (whenever it comes back in stock), I am thinking I need a power amplifier with a little warmth....I just dont want the whole chain to end up sounding too "sharp" on my ears resulting in fatigue. Then again I suppose I could just use the A8s PEQ to adjust to taste. This really seems like a fantastic product! Any advice on accompanied power amplifiers is welcome too. Thanks Andrew, and I love the new trial format of a second video every week!
Looks amazingly cool!
Coffee at the ready once again. Here we go!
Hello Max!
Really proud of this review and am in love with the product!
@@KristiWrightHello there!
Hi Andrew and thanks for the review.
Just one thing that's been bothering me. Simon from "13th Note Reviews" was offered a free A8 unit from Eversolo in exchange for a review. Simon could have kept the unit for himself afterwards but he declined the offer and did not review the sample for obvious moral reasons. I was wondering if Eversolo had approached you with any such offer? You mentioned in the review that you bought the unit with your own money...
Thank you for the review. I was planning to buy the Marantz CD50n because I also wanted a new CD player but now I am leaning more towards the A8 and an extra CD player 😂
Different question: where can I buy the concrete looking furniture? I like it a lot!
Good review. I think you’ve discovered what many users of the A8 already know and love. It’s on my wish list but it’s a little too pricey for me.
Guess so. I'm a fan of the A8 now for sure!
Yes - I love this thing too .. Hands down some of the best out there.
hahaha .. 70% of the questions in here would be answered if they wrote it in google instead ...or looked it up on the webpage. Yikes. That's an easy help to your algorithm statistic. =)
i live in the philippines, i would love to go thru your links to buy this… but international shipping here is a disaster. Anyway i placed an order (locally) based on your review. i’m so excited… i was looking for a streamer that can do apple music… a lot of streamers can’t!!! also based on what your saying i don’t need to buy extra preamp… which is a huge plus… till now i’ve been using my yamaha avr to power and process my r11, and was thinking of getting a dedicated stereo preamp… but this just solved two issues i had… apple music and preamp.
Thanks Andrew
This is not intended to be anything but neutral - but having kristi weigh in on her thoughts and the way its done - her being off camera - is the main reason that i think this channel is so successful
its different, its more compelling - while i respect andrew's reviews - kristi - i hate to say really makes the channel work - im not saying the follow up reviews and mixers with kristi -are not a good idea - they are - again not intended as any wierdness - but having her weigh in - to the review is so clever and unique - its the oil that keeps the engine running so smoothly
Hei Andrew. Love your reviews and I did learn a lot from them.I’m a person who likes to enjoy good music without have to sell a kidney to do that😂😂I’m watching you from Oslo,Norway. Today I was to an hi-fi show ,to see, to hear and maybe to buy Yamaha R N2000A😊 but …l saw and heard Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition paired with Eversolo AMP-F2 amplifier and it sound absolutely amazing. Now I really don’t know what to do…I have a pair of old Klipsch rf82 and Klipsch 112 s subwoofer . Help 😅
I loved 'trash talk' and the idea of a different follow-up format - but - you might want to consider that old format on the reviews was actually what differentiated your channel. I valued Kristi's views on the product from the perspective of how my partner would feel about 'living' with it just as much as Andrew's product evaluation and comparisons. Putting that section in was genius, makes what you do unique and added some welcome unscripted opinion and humour (see recent rants on NAD, Diamond Series style bypass and Kristi's take on power amps or the universal remotes in the 21st century). As entertaining as these moments are, they also publicly underline your independence and credibility in the space. Keep the old format and get trash talk? Pretty please 🤣
I lived with the A8 for several weeks as I awaited service on my Modwright tube stage moded CXN. For the first week I used it as an all-in-one and I was left there quite unimpressed, but then when I disengaged the preamp/volume control, in favor of the passive volume stage of my Van Alstine SET 120 control, the performance improved quite substantially, leading me to conclude the preamp/volume control of the A8 significantly lowers the ceiling of its DAC/Streamer performance. I'd give it an A as a DAC/Streamer in its price class, but a C as an all-in-one front end, so just consider that depending on how you plan on using it.
How does it compare with your modded CXN ? Do you turn on digital pre amp on the cxn for digital volume control at least?
The volume output varies based on how you configure the outputs. If you isolate RCA or XLR versus leave them both on. Did you try that? Also, applying or turning on the DSP functionality lowers the output by 5dB in order to preserve headroom as some may choose to boost certain frequencies versus cut them.
@@delvalle9256 The moded CXN is far superior across the audio spectrum, either with the preamp engaged or bypassed vs the A8, but it's a significant modification with a world class tube stage, and the modification isn't being done anymore... So it's not really a fair fight. There's only something like 35 Modwright moded CXNs out there.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews yes, I isolated the outputs and never had the DSP engaged. The presentation was much more vivid when the volume/preamp was bypassed. It was not subtle in my system.
@@matthewjoy1864 I have a modded one myself, hopefully it won’t break. You can’t deny as a streamer the CXN software although vastly improved from where it started is really not on par with the eversolo software especially outside of Spotify, Tidal , Qobuz .
Hey Kristi . The Eversolo DMP A10 is out 🎉
Edits were so clean in this video
Thanks!
Im late but better late than never!!!! Eversolo has been a beast!
So far, every one of my Eversolo products has exceeded my expectations.
New FW allow Apple Music native now…. Very nicely done!
I've had the A8 for a couple of days and I'm very happy I returned it. It's a great build and I like all the possibilities. But I don't like the sound it produces at all. It sounds flat, thin and harsh. It made me lose the fun of listening to my music. Firstly I swapped the A8 with my current dac. Later I connected my dac to the Xlr input of the A8. So I have also tested the pre amp of the A8. It hardly added or changed anything positive compared to when my dac is directly connected to my power amp.
Some folks don't like a transparent or colorless sound, and that's okay. You need to invest in the product that is going to bring you the most joy. Appreciate you sharing your experience.
If "coloration" leeds to far more seperation, depth and letting the speakers disappear, then I can't have coloration enough. Listening to the Eversolo Dmp-a8 made me just sit there waiting for the music to start playing.
It's a pity because I liked everything else about it beside the choppy and hard clicking volume adjustment. But you can live with that.
Yep, my A6 sounds clear but it's flat (2D wall of sound) compared to my r2r Denafrips Ares II 12th which sounds 3D.
I liked the Ares so much that I moved it to my living room 2ndary system and upgraded to the Denafrips Pontus II 12th-1 in my primary system.
I have had the A6 and the Ares and now the A8. For me the soundstage on the A8 is deeper than either.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews There you go again, telling people their ears and personal experience is wrong.
I've been testing an A-8 extensively for a month. I'm returning it however. The preamp is not up to the quality of the rest of the system. I'm using an inexpensive Topping Pre90 preamp with the A8 as DAC only. It's a much better sound. Even though both units use similar chips for the preamp function. Topping just implements it better.
Overall the A8 is great value, especially with components of similar price. But if your other system components are better, you'll hear its flaws. I'm now using a Denafrips R2R DAC, which is much better sounding.
I’m debating if I should get this. It looks well built and fully featured but I wonder if they will be able to support it for the long run. Somehow Evesolo reminds me of the OPPO company.
Great review! I’d really like to give this guy a shot.
FYI. The link in your description to the A8 actually links to the A6.
It's the correct link. I believe it's being redirected by ES. Sorry for the confusion.
I really enjoy your guys channel. So you mentioned an issue with the new ChiFi products in a recent discussion about the problems with the Wiim Amp. I really like the features of the A8, but am a bit concerned about $1980. And only a one year warranty. Doesn't instill much confidence for me to purchase. What is your opinion of Eversolo's quality. Does it really sound that great, or is everybody in on hyping it up?
Thank you.
I had the Eversolo DMP-A6 for probably 7 months and I love it. I have Parasound JC2BP preamp and A21+ power amp and Focal Sopra 1's in a medium size room. . I used the A6 as a DAC and streamer. I had my eyes on the DMP-A8 since it first came out. The HDMI earc, more digital inputs were something i wanted. All the reviewers was saying the preamp was extremely good as well. After seeing your review i ordered one thinking i will could sell the A6 and JC2BP preamp and that would cover the cost plus have some extra cash. The A8 as a preamp was really good if i used the DSP to make the sound a bit warmer to match the Parasound. But unfortunately the drop in gain was dramatic and I would have to have the volume on the A8 to -25db and have the gain on the power amp maxed out to get any kind of loud music ( 85-90db ). I normally had the power amp at half gain with the Parasound preamp and still have lots more headroom if i wanted really loud for movies. If i didn't have a 300wpc power amp, it probably wouldn't really work well as a preamp if someone liked loud movies and music. Especially if you had low sensitive speakers. Ill keep it as a preamp for a while and see how it works as my daily driver. I may have Parasound JC2BP for sale if someone is looking for one. Lol.
Are you using XLR or RCA?
The a8 has 10db gain.
The p5 has 12db gain.
Fairly close?
Wow ! When you think how many bases it covers the DMP-A8 is really a no brainer!!
YEP! Just add the amp (or two) of your choice and speakers, and you're set for the present and perceivable future.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Been thinking of updating my ARCAM fmj D33 DAC for a while! I use the D33 as a preamp also but the streaming capability of the DMP-A8 is very enticing! ;)
Andrew R. ^ Good Wife: Your pairing as a couple, reviewing Audio Products is not lost on your viewers. Good Luck Andrew Robinson.
Hello Andrew
I'm sorry, but you made a mistake. At minute 1:43, that is not an HDMI port but an IIS port even though the connector is identical. You should make a correction ASAP because if some unfortunate person follows you and connects the TV to that port, you can have both devices on your conscience :)
Otherwise an excellent review as always
Thank you
Why is there not a universal wiring configuration standard for i2s yet?? 😩
Great review,I want one😎
Awesome review, thanks guys!
How would you compare the EverSolo vs the Moon Ace?
I feel that both have a similar sound quality.
Love the reviews. Are you going to do a video on your remodel?
Yes, soon. Likely in April when the remodel is hopefully finished.
In regards to the HDMI, does it have a 2.1 pass through that allows for PS5 features like 120hz/ VRR etc? Does it stream bit perfect hi res Qobuz services? Thanks & great review
Tune in for our follow up video later in the week, we're going to address a couple of questions having to do with HDMI.
Hi, can you also explore a subwoofer addition you mentioned (DSP settings, HPF/LPF etc), thanks !@@andrewrobinsonreviews
I have an Denafrips Ares II dac. Would you get the A8 and use its internal dac or use an A6 connected to the Ares II? Yes I would need to buy the A6. Really looking forward to the new Kristi's Komments..........😀
I have the Ares 12th, and actually like the A8's internal DAC better (connected through USB or I2S with good cables). I usually prefer R2R DACs, but the chips in the A8 are really good!
Another great review! Can you clarify how you are connecting the A8 to your Apple TV and can you play it through the Sony AVR while still getting its impressive sound benefits?
AppleTV ➡ Sony X90L HDMI ARC/eARC ➡ EverSolo HDMI input. As for the Sony AVR question, you can't connect the Eversolo to the Sony as a preamp, but you could use it as a streamer/DAC into the AVR.
is the sound quality way apart or small, comparing the MiniDSP SHD to DMP A8?
only focussing on the DAC conversion and analog preamp output section.
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thanks.
How would you compare
the Eversolo DMP-A8 to
the DMP-A6 Master Edition?
And does the DMP-A6 have
the same CD rip function?
Do you have a review for the Classe Delta Stereo and Pre, shown in the video, upcoming or in the near future? Thanks. Great channel
I would really love to have something like this, but the problem is, there is no headphone connection. That is the only problem I have with this device. But it really looks stunning!
I added a Aune S17 to my system. At $700 it still keeps the cost well below competing preamps. Generally the installed headphone amps aren’t the best anyway.
Does it always convert the analogue input to digital? Or only when you use the DSP?
There are actually a myriad of ways to handle the incoming signal. I'd have to double-check the manual, but if you leave EQ and DSP off, I believe no changeover or conversion takes place.
Looking forward to your take on the Classe pre/stereo power combo. It's funny, but I consider this combo to be something of a high-end bargain because I've consistently preferred them to much pricier gear I've home tested. But I guess you might already be tilting in a somewhat different direction! So long as your opinions are honest (which I believe they are) I don't mind some sacred cows being sacrificed...
Afternoon Andrew and Kristi
Hello!
Morning KJ! Thanks for joining us!
Great review,
Nice to see that Classé gear. Very Classy.
You forgot the L. lol
Hey Andrew. Great channel! Would you recommend the A8 as a preamp to the audiolab 8300xp? Any issues (eg with volume control /gain matching etc) encountered with this direct setup? Thx
Fantastic review as always. Do you think the next step here is one with an integrated amp so it's an all in one?