I think I need to clarify two things about the Eversolo BEFORE our follow-up video later in the week. First, while the A8 has what appear to be 2 HDMI ports, one in and one out, it is NOT a multi-channel or home theater device. The Eversolo will not pass through nor send a video signal to your TV. It is also a stereo-only product, meaning you cannot send a native multi-channel or surround sound signal to its HDMI ARC/eARC input and get surround sound. If you connect this to your TV (like I did), you must make sure your TV is outputting PCM Stereo via its HDMI ARC/eARC port to work with the A8. Many TVs do this automatically, so there's no need to worry, but if yours doesn't, that's the setting to check for. The HDMI port found with the A8's digital outputs is known as an IIS (or i2S) connection. While it uses a form of an HDMI-style termination, it is NOT an HDMI connection in the traditional sense. Apologies if I was unclear about this or simply glossed over it without further explanation. This is a relatively new way to connect digital components, such as a streamer or transport, to an outboard DAC, but it is not yet standardized*. (*source: Wikipedia) PS Audio and a few other companies use this digital connection method on their devices rather than the older-school method, which was RJ-45 or similar. The A8 supports DSD and PCM output through this IIS/i2S HDMI-looking port. Like the HDMI input, though, the HDMI-looking IIS/i2S port DOES NOT support video and is NOT INTENDED for home theater use. Hope this clears up any and all confusion, and I apologize for any misunderstandings. We will no doubt discuss this topic and more in greater detail in our follow-up video.
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless. I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects. Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
@robinsonbrand : This might have been mentioned elsewhere, but since I deem it important: The DMP-A6 outputs MultiChannel 5.1 via it‘s HDMI out. This is for multi-layer SACD‘s , which I play vie SMB from either PC or NAS. It also outputs DTS ( CD ). For the SACD, you can select the 2.0 or 5.1 stream on the DMP-A6‘s touch screen. As far as I can see, the A8 does not offer this.
I bought the A8 a couple months ago and I have it running into the Schitt Tyr monoblocks to my Magnipan LRS+’s. I use the rca out into a svs PB2000. I love the simplicity of the setup compared to previous separate setups I have had. The sound quality is excellent. The total set up was 6500$ for a great midfi system. So far the Eversolo A8 is my favorite hifi component I have owned in 20 years in this hobby. Hopefully it remains reliable.
I love Kristi's new idea!!!! This way we get more videos of the best channel on you tube!! THANK YOU. You are a good husband, I can tell , Kristi is truly your queen!
Thanks for the review Andrew! :) I heard Eversolo DMP A6 as a transport paired with Gustard R26 R2R DAC at a friend's house. It was very impressive. The Gustard R26 is an incredibly good DAC, airy, musical, analog, smooth, but at the same time fast and very dynamic, with a huge sound stage. I hope I managed to do a test with my friend comparing Eversolo A6+ Gustard vs Eversolo A8.
@@valentinpetrita9335 Not night and day, but definitely better. The A6's own DAC sounds a bit sharper and the sound image extends into the high range, while the Gustard is smoother and more balanced.
I don't need and can't really afford kit like this. I'm just compelled to listen anyway - I still learn something about kit in my budget, and your logical non-drama approach really stands out from the pack - and tbh I just really enjoy listening. Thank you!
Hi Kristi and Andrew! I purchased the DMP-A8 when it first hit the US market last year. So far, it has been fantastic. I took the leap and spent the extra money based on some early reviews. I now use it as my dedicated media hub and utilize it's internal DAC. It's that good. I use the XLR outputs directly to a pair of monoblock amplifiers and a powered subwoofer via the RCA outputs. It has superb sound quality (dare I say audiophile high-end level sound?), super flexible in it's usability with a myriad of inputs and outputs. It is so good, I removed my separate Denafrips Ares II DAC and Denafrips Hades preamplifer and use the Eversolo as a unified source/preamp instead. The screen and it's multitude of options and VU meters are great. The internal DSP and PEQ has been a life saver with my difficult-to-control room acoustics. The A8 is built exceptionally well and feels and sounds like the asking price. In general, the internal streamer is quite good, but I have just a few nits to pick. It is a little sluggish scrubbing or switching through tracks. The drill down in streaming menus and accessing existing playlists and favorites can be a little clunky. I previously had the Bluesound Node, while the A8 sounds better, the Node's menu format may be just a little bit easier to operate. All in all though, this thing rocks...highly recommended.
Just wanted to pop in and say this video looks amazing. In my humble opinion, your sense for aesthetics and design is on another level compared the other 99% on youtube. Looking forward to seeing the next one. No pressure ;)
I have been running my A8 for about a month as a replacement for my Cambridge CXNV2. The upgrade was not incremental, but enormous. The dac alone is worth the asking price.
Great review Andrew. I have enjoyed my A8 now for 4 months. This well done unit is the best bargain I have ever owned in 50 years of audiophilia. The A8 feeds a Parasound Halo driving Cornwall 4s. Fills my listening room with beautiful music.
I think the fact that you voted for it with your wallet says it all. Especially when someone like you guys does it. You get tons of access to products for review well beyond what a person just searching for that one thing does. So it has to be one damn good product and it seems to be. Glad to see more and more competition in this segment. Love the review and all the points! Can’t wait to see more conversation episodes. Hope everyone has an awesome day!
Full disclosure, I don't care how Eversolo's marketing team or people conduct themselves, as they (at least in my experience) are a little heavy-handed with their wants/needs, which is a shame because their products CAN and DO stand on their own. I bought the A8 at retail instead of putting up with them. Had it not performed I would've returned it, but seeing as how it did (and then some) I paid the credit card bill and this baby is MINE! Glad I did, too, as it's harder to get your hands on than unobtainium.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I totally get it. I think everyone should do exactly that. Buy it, try it yourself, and return/find something else if it didn’t fit. Instead of chasing the hype. I’m glad the product is actually worth buying and I do agree that their marketing should take a chill pill… as do others as well! Enjoy your new baby! 💪
I rarely come across a product that reacts exactly how I would want a product to behave. I swear, it's like EverSolo read my mind when designing and developing the A8. If it was a full-width product and came in slightly different finishes, it would be absolutely perfect for me!
At 4:57 we see the selection for using both XLR and RCA outputs at the same time. If you select both you lose most of the low bass from the XLRs. I thought there was a crossover doing this or something in the DSP/EQ doing it but there wasn't. Turned down the vol on my subs and the mains had no bass using both outputs. I switched back and forth for 2 days and somehow the little SMSL D6S budget DAC sounds a little better driving amps directly via XLR than the A8.
I have been waiting for the NAD M66 to come available. This review has me thinking twice about that now. At half the price this might be my next component purchase. Thanks for the great review!
Love my A8 I received 2 months ago. Good break in was about 100 hours. Agree with Andrew on his review. Last firmware update did not make it Roon Ready, I emailed with Eversolo customer support and Roon won't get to the A8 for another several weeks. If you use Roon it will only play airplay at AC3 format. I use Tidal connect and the DMP A8 rocks the sound. A8 I2S is compatible with Pontus II 12th Ann edition. This box is incredible value, just buy it.
The last firmware update has broken the embedded Tidal player in my A8. Now it struggles to play tracks that have high bitrate because of insufficient buffering even when connected to a gigabit Ethernet. But the Tidal Connect still works fine
Thank you Andrew. I completely agree on the comparisons between products with significant delta's in price point. At the end, as an audiophile in a on-going journey I am building my system to my specific budget and I cannot help to wonder what if saving for the next tier would actually be rewarding. Of course value is a completely subjetive variable but ultimately it serves a lot that although you may have subjective taste's, you do have experience enough to discern between a wide range of products that we usually do not have the budget, availabily or time to do audition or experience. Thanks again, Regards from Mexico!
Very enthusiastic review, thanks Andrew. I just ordered one for my secondary system. I am excited to compare it to the ~$6,800USD Cary Audio DMS-700 DAC/Streamer/Preamp that I use in my reference system.
I have a feeling you'll likely find the A8 provides a sensation of greater detail at the "expense" of artificial warmth or added mid-bass and softer treble voicing. Please check back in and let me know how it goes!
In the follow up can you do a bit more on the preamp functionality? Balance control, switching left right channels , mono mode and ‘old fashioned’ tone control?
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless. I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects. Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
I've had the A8 for a couple of days and I'm very happy I returned it. It's a great build and I like all the possibilities. But I don't like the sound it produces at all. It sounds flat, thin and harsh. It made me lose the fun of listening to my music. Firstly I swapped the A8 with my current dac. Later I connected my dac to the Xlr input of the A8. So I have also tested the pre amp of the A8. It hardly added or changed anything positive compared to when my dac is directly connected to my power amp.
Some folks don't like a transparent or colorless sound, and that's okay. You need to invest in the product that is going to bring you the most joy. Appreciate you sharing your experience.
If "coloration" leeds to far more seperation, depth and letting the speakers disappear, then I can't have coloration enough. Listening to the Eversolo Dmp-a8 made me just sit there waiting for the music to start playing. It's a pity because I liked everything else about it beside the choppy and hard clicking volume adjustment. But you can live with that.
Yep, my A6 sounds clear but it's flat (2D wall of sound) compared to my r2r Denafrips Ares II 12th which sounds 3D. I liked the Ares so much that I moved it to my living room 2ndary system and upgraded to the Denafrips Pontus II 12th-1 in my primary system.
If you forget to set the audio to PCM and attempt to watch a Dolby Digital movie, you will have the full pleasure of hearing full bandwidth digital noise. I wonder why Eversolo simply didn't put a fully surround capable chipset in the A8 since the marketing implies streaming as well as video usage. Nobody cares about PCM surround any longer. I own the A6-Master version. I agree with Andrew regarding the sound quality. The A8 will be even better.
I loved 'trash talk' and the idea of a different follow-up format - but - you might want to consider that old format on the reviews was actually what differentiated your channel. I valued Kristi's views on the product from the perspective of how my partner would feel about 'living' with it just as much as Andrew's product evaluation and comparisons. Putting that section in was genius, makes what you do unique and added some welcome unscripted opinion and humour (see recent rants on NAD, Diamond Series style bypass and Kristi's take on power amps or the universal remotes in the 21st century). As entertaining as these moments are, they also publicly underline your independence and credibility in the space. Keep the old format and get trash talk? Pretty please 🤣
Hi Andrew and thanks for the review. Just one thing that's been bothering me. Simon from "13th Note Reviews" was offered a free A8 unit from Eversolo in exchange for a review. Simon could have kept the unit for himself afterwards but he declined the offer and did not review the sample for obvious moral reasons. I was wondering if Eversolo had approached you with any such offer? You mentioned in the review that you bought the unit with your own money...
Hei Andrew. Love your reviews and I did learn a lot from them.I’m a person who likes to enjoy good music without have to sell a kidney to do that😂😂I’m watching you from Oslo,Norway. Today I was to an hi-fi show ,to see, to hear and maybe to buy Yamaha R N2000A😊 but …l saw and heard Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition paired with Eversolo AMP-F2 amplifier and it sound absolutely amazing. Now I really don’t know what to do…I have a pair of old Klipsch rf82 and Klipsch 112 s subwoofer . Help 😅
Love the A8. I had the A6, then got the A8 when it first came out. The sound quality is definitely better on the A8, at least with my Klipsch Heresy IV speakers. The A6 was brighter & harsh when doing the ab comparison between the two. Sold the A6
Great timing! Been looking at this in my search for a steamer for Apple Music mainly. This is at the top of my list so far in that regard. Looking forward to any follow up vids!
Thanks, and yes, that is a way better product than last week's offering. lol I am always up against the pervasive high end stereo vs. A/V but have chosen A/V and just soldier on as my wife and I truly are a 50/50 music/ movie family. lol
I always ask this question and never get an answer. How are these dedicated music streamers any better than, say, a Shield TV running Plex or JellyFin with full bandwidth into a traditional AVR? Don't have to worry about onboard DACs since the connection is straight digital. And you can't really ask for better than your actual TV in terms of displaying metadata and high-res artwork (plus you're already using a decent remote to control everything). I mean, I look at these devices -- they're definitely nice-looking and I can easily see them in my EC but I feel like I already have this functionality in a potentially better and simpler incarnation.
God bless if you are happy with this. Many of us would have to spend a lot more to be satisfied, and, at the end, satisfaction only lasts so much till we chase the next best thing
I really enjoy your guys channel. So you mentioned an issue with the new ChiFi products in a recent discussion about the problems with the Wiim Amp. I really like the features of the A8, but am a bit concerned about $1980. And only a one year warranty. Doesn't instill much confidence for me to purchase. What is your opinion of Eversolo's quality. Does it really sound that great, or is everybody in on hyping it up? Thank you.
As someone who owns the classe delta pre and stereo amp, I can say it’s a very fussy duo to setup. First, you have to run in xlr. RCA only gives you about 50% of the capability. Secondly, you have to have the rca plugs in rca inputs. Next, in order to get the true capability of the pre you have to change settings so there is only one input and output on at a time. Then you have to make sure the pre is in bypass mode. If it’s not in bypass then the dsp will be engaged and it will sound like digital trash Lastly, the dac in it sucks. Add a dedicated dac to it and you will see how truly expansive and wrap around soundstage it is capable of
@@andrewrobinsonreviews It is no problem for me as I was just curious about the price, which I don't believe you mentioned in your video. But if you're getting affiliate commissions I thought I'd let you know.
Thank you for the review. I was planning to buy the Marantz CD50n because I also wanted a new CD player but now I am leaning more towards the A8 and an extra CD player 😂 Different question: where can I buy the concrete looking furniture? I like it a lot!
Eversolo came and mopped the floor with the competition, especially in it's price range. I've had the A6 and got the A8 for the i2s output and analog preamp capabilities. NAD isn't comparable because they're always built with trash parts the folks at the factory have found laying around - always somewhere C-tier capacitors that guarantee a short lifespan, conveniently placed close to hot heatsinks to amplify the effect. NAD, Cambridge Audio and Audiolab are notorious for this. I've seen a dead Audiolab 8200CD with about 20-30% of the cheap chinese PSU caps already blown open at the top, it's nuts. I've opened and thoroughly inspected the A8 and it's a league above in terms of build quality, 'worst' parts I've seen in an Eversolo are Samyoung electrolytics which are robust and been used by SoTM for example for many years while NAD is mostly stuffed with C-Tier stuff like Lelon and the likes.
Great review, thanks. It’s great you’re committed to good value hifi. Based on the last vid, “We’ve actually been working on stuff…” only adds to the marital speculation. 😂❤
I lived with the A8 for several weeks as I awaited service on my Modwright tube stage moded CXN. For the first week I used it as an all-in-one and I was left there quite unimpressed, but then when I disengaged the preamp/volume control, in favor of the passive volume stage of my Van Alstine SET 120 control, the performance improved quite substantially, leading me to conclude the preamp/volume control of the A8 significantly lowers the ceiling of its DAC/Streamer performance. I'd give it an A as a DAC/Streamer in its price class, but a C as an all-in-one front end, so just consider that depending on how you plan on using it.
The volume output varies based on how you configure the outputs. If you isolate RCA or XLR versus leave them both on. Did you try that? Also, applying or turning on the DSP functionality lowers the output by 5dB in order to preserve headroom as some may choose to boost certain frequencies versus cut them.
@@delvalle9256 The moded CXN is far superior across the audio spectrum, either with the preamp engaged or bypassed vs the A8, but it's a significant modification with a world class tube stage, and the modification isn't being done anymore... So it's not really a fair fight. There's only something like 35 Modwright moded CXNs out there.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews yes, I isolated the outputs and never had the DSP engaged. The presentation was much more vivid when the volume/preamp was bypassed. It was not subtle in my system.
@@matthewjoy1864 I have a modded one myself, hopefully it won’t break. You can’t deny as a streamer the CXN software although vastly improved from where it started is really not on par with the eversolo software especially outside of Spotify, Tidal , Qobuz .
I would really love to have something like this, but the problem is, there is no headphone connection. That is the only problem I have with this device. But it really looks stunning!
I added a Aune S17 to my system. At $700 it still keeps the cost well below competing preamps. Generally the installed headphone amps aren’t the best anyway.
Great review. Imagine this having dirac included for bass management. Since you brought up NAD, what about the 658 and or 399 you reviewed? You classified those as sterile sounding. What is eversolo doing that doesnt make it sound sterile to you? Also, when paired with amps you tried, is sound quality better than the rotel ras5000 you just reviewed and loved?
The Eversolo doesn't have an internal amp, so the character of the amps I have in-house shines through when I use the A8. The NAD gear uses types of Class D (or hybrid amps) that I just don't like --but that's just me and my opinion. When paired with the 8300XP, I get Levinson vibes. When paired with the A35.2 from Primare, it was more reminiscent of my Krell or Rotel amps back in the day.
As with all heavily software-defined things, it can be discarded after 2-3 years, considering it already runs an outdated Android OS. At this moment in time, though, it's awesome.
@Jose How is WiiM any different when it comes to products that can be discarded? Buying something $200 at a time will end up being even more expensive in the long term.
@@KristiWright the software/ ui isn't android based, that's why. All of these units are heavily software dependent. I want to see what happens to these units when android gets updated. What do you mean "buy something $200 at a time"? Haven't heard of major problems with wiim or bluesound products. Both are well known for their software quality and constant updates. Even still, would be less pissed off to discard a few hundred dollars product rather than one costing almost 10 times as much, wouldn't you? A bit sad as i've heard the upcoming wiim will have a screen though. Even less future proof i guess.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Yes, exactly. Also, adding a screen is a really bad idea, considering how much display tech is developing now. I can bet Eversolo will not support this thing in three years. With WiiM-style devices, for the same amount spent, I can be on the latest SW tech for 10 years. Things will change a lot during that time :)
I'm not in the habit of burning money, even $100 at a time, but I'm not surprised at your thinking. Some brands (and channels) have done a fantastic job convincing you that spending a little at a time to chase the latest update is entirely reasonable and acceptable. Meanwhile, all those other products are sitting on a shelf collecting dust. In my experience, Bluesound makes pretty reliable products, so I don't include them in the same category. The WiiM (WiiM amp), on the other hand, is one we found multiple issues with. @@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
I have an Denafrips Ares II dac. Would you get the A8 and use its internal dac or use an A6 connected to the Ares II? Yes I would need to buy the A6. Really looking forward to the new Kristi's Komments..........😀
I have the Ares 12th, and actually like the A8's internal DAC better (connected through USB or I2S with good cables). I usually prefer R2R DACs, but the chips in the A8 are really good!
Hello Andrew I'm sorry, but you made a mistake. At minute 1:43, that is not an HDMI port but an IIS port even though the connector is identical. You should make a correction ASAP because if some unfortunate person follows you and connects the TV to that port, you can have both devices on your conscience :) Otherwise an excellent review as always Thank you
Boaty Mcboatface here, I'm not sure if you are still answering questions on this video/device. I missed out on your live chat. My place of employment was ransacked by a tornado a week and a half ago and we've been busy picking up the pieces. In any case, I just ordered the DMP-A8, I have a few questions. 1) in general, does DSP PEQ affect soundstage and imaging. 2) l've look through the manual and I didn't see much about setting up high pass, low pass filtering. I'm assuming that one set of outputs (RCA or Balanced) can be set up for high pass and the other for low pass) is that a correct assumption. 3) Does the DSP feature work on analog inputs?
Hello Mr. Robinson. I'm new to this audiophile hobby, I currently have a 5.1 system (Marantz receiver, Triangle Speakers, Martin Logan Sub, U-Turn Orbit vinyl player with built-in phono) a lot of my stuff I bought after watching your videos and now I wanna add a streamer. I like ALL of the EverSolos but if I get any of them should I add a separa amp and not go thorough the Marantz receiver? Any recommendations? Thanks. Love your videos.
In regards to the HDMI, does it have a 2.1 pass through that allows for PS5 features like 120hz/ VRR etc? Does it stream bit perfect hi res Qobuz services? Thanks & great review
is the sound quality way apart or small, comparing the MiniDSP SHD to DMP A8? only focussing on the DAC conversion and analog preamp output section. ? thanks.
Hey Andrew and Kristi. I’ve heard the DMP-A8 DAC is warmer than the A6. Do you feel that way? Is it better, or just a different sound signature? Thanks!
hahaha .. 70% of the questions in here would be answered if they wrote it in google instead ...or looked it up on the webpage. Yikes. That's an easy help to your algorithm statistic. =)
I would have loved more exploration of how this brings Apple Music High Res into a Hi Fi system. Also you described the I2S output as a HDMI output - does this mean it can fulfil both I2S and HDMI functions and is this configurable? PS: missing Kristi’s reaction part more than I thought I would to be honest!
I appreciate your kind remarks. Check back later this week for our second episode of "Unplugged!" RE: HDMI - This does not transmit video but it has all the other functions for ARC/eARC.
@@E4xtream I know exactly how you feel. When they roll out the follow up video we will get 3 to 4 times our usual Kristi fix. The way they were doing it her comments were averaging 5 minutes and last Friday we got over 20 minutes of their conversation/commentary. I hope this makes you feel better.
Hi Andrew. Can you make playlists for the internal storage such as CD rips? Also can you play music from a network NAS? It sounds like a pretty great component for the money.
I just got mine and it has a high output preamp. These types of products always start out too bright for my taste and I haven't broken it in enough yet (3 days).
I am fully convinced by the A8 it wins out in so many ways but I am really only looking for the best streamer of this quality. At £500 less (Approx.) there is the Volumio Rivo that as a streamer is supposed to be in the same league. I would love to hear your opinion in a comparison video. thanks. PS follow up sessions sounds good.
Hans Beekhausen reviewed the RIVO. he liked it. He also likes the Magna Mano streamer. I'm using Magna Mano. It's excellent sound quality. (going into a Holo Audio DAC via I2S)
Hi Andrew and Kristi, what’s your choice between the DMP-A8 and the Technics SU-GX70 that you have also reviewed? I’m more interested in the pre amp and streaming features on the Technics. Does one dac, streamer and sound win over the other?
I have to politely disagree with one major part of this review. The part where you say this replaces a true preamp. I own the A8 and I made that mistake. I sold my musical fidelity M8Xi for a Parasound jc5 and thought my eversolo a8 would be fine on its own. I was COMPLETELY incorrect. The music was flat, dull and lifeless. I had been aware before I did this I could end up going backwards in sound quality but hoped it was just paranoia from giving up a very good preamp. I then purchased a Prima Luna evo400 preamp and the sound is better than ever. Eversolo A8 to the preamp- to the amp is the right combination. The A8 is an amazing streamer and incredible DAC but please do not use this as a preamp if you have a revealing system. Plug it into a preamp and let the preamp smooth out that beautiful sound the A8 can make. FWIW almost all my speakers are based on andrew’s recommendations. BW 805 D4 signatures and also bought Martin logan xtf 100 and matching surrounds for home theater. So I do take his opinions incredibly seriously, however I can say for a fact owning this device will be amazing so long as you don’t pretend it can act as a true hifi preamp. It will not be good enough. Trust me as I learned an extremely expensive lesson on this issue. Not critiquing the overall review, just the point about the preamp, as that will without question harm people if they do this without testing before they sell their gear.
It's difficult for me to try and diagnose what you are responding to when using the A8 as a pre. My immediate thought is that you may be responding to the change in your amplifier. Another possibility is that you may have discovered that you don't prefer a more neutral sound- which is fine. Regarding the lifeless, dull, and flat remarks -- the A8 is a more neutral preamp and based on your preference for the Prima Luna, a tube-based preamp, it seems like you prefer a preamp with more tone or color. Additionally, there may be an output gain mismatch with your current amplifier. In that case, you may find that you have to increase the volume on the A8 compared to what you are used to on the M8xi. I know if you engage the A8's DSP functionality, it will automatically curb the EverSolo's dynamic range by 5 dB. This can be disengaged or adjusted. All that said, the speakers you own are more revealing, and it's possible that you just got a little too much of a good thing, and the Prima Luna helps soften things up. Again, hard to fully access without being in your room but those are my initial thoughts. In the end, I'm glad to know you found something that works for you.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Perhaps there's something wrong with your system instead? It bothers me that you just assume it's the poster's problem, and make assumptions that they like colored sound. FYI... I experienced the same issue with my A-8. In my highly revealing system the preamp sounds dull and veiled. Using the A-8 as a DAC-only with a Topping Pre90 as the preamp, there was a dramatic difference. Much more detail and clarity and a lifelike presence compared to the A-8 alone. My system is highly revealing, and i've moved on from the A8. However it is a fantastic value product for systems with components in a similar price point.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews well I don’t have all the terms down so pardon my ignorance as I attempt to describe haha. I feel that the sound collapses with the A8 straight to an amp. It has dramatically less to no depth or soundstage, the details are gone and the liveliness of the music is gone. There’s no DAC in the Prima Luna preamp, but I think a great experiment for your channel (who am I to say, lol) is if a true preamp added to the chain can improve the sound. That Classe preamp must really suck if the a8 straight to an amp sounds better than running the A8 into the Classe preamp then into an amp. If you’re ever in Saratoga, NY you’re welcome to listen to mine directly but since you already have the 805D4’s and the A8 I would highly recommend giving the primaluna a try in the signal chain because the sound improvement will be dramatic. I run basic Mogami XLR from the A8 to the Primaluna to the Parasound. But I’m telling you there’s a massive difference, like not a small difference. And while I have your attention temporarily thank you for pointing me in the direction of the XTF100’s and matching surrounds, as well as the 805D4’s because I wouldn’t be enjoying the gear I have without your sharing of them. So thank you, sincerely.
Parametric EQ downsampling. How does it affect the sound quality? Thinking of using it to connect a sub via unbalanced outputs, sending the balanced outputs to a power amplifier.
I have the Hi Fi Rose RS/150 B, and the streamer and DAC are very good. However, using it as a pre amp using E Arc or the optical in my two channel system, the voice never matches the mouth on the TV for home theater. I need a real pre amp now.
That's unfortunate but not surprising. We experienced lip-sync issues with the RS and the 250, not to mention operating system, touch screen, and CEC issues, plus we went through multiple units in an attempt to solve them.
Suppose I have a Naim Uniti Atom that I use purely as a streaming DAC pre-amp. I could sell it and get the DMP-A8 instead to do the same job. Should I? I only care about the overall sound quality, not about any differences in features (e.g. touchscreen, outputs, etc). I know you don't have an Atom anymore, but do you think the DMP-A8 have a leg up over the Atom in sound quality as a streamer/DAC/preamp?
First and foremost: I follow your channel since Columbus "discovered" America. Your content is amazing. Also, your reviews have become a detriment to my wallet and my marriage but I like living on the edge. I sometimes come home late with boxes avoiding my wife and telling my dogs to hush. Here I am again: I have an Ifi Zen Streamer into a Stellar Gold DAC and a Stellar Gold Preamp (both PS Audio) feeding a Parasound JC5 amp. Have you heard the Ifi Zen Streamer? If so, do you think I would benefit from upgrading to the A8? Thank you Andrew. I love your channel. Please help this neophyte! 🙂
Hi Andrew. Thanks for the review. I’m trying to decide what speakers to get next for music. What are your thoughts on the focal aria evo x 4 I like the look of them or the dynaudio evoke 50s
Thanks for the great review, Andrew. Given the quality of this DAC in your opinion would adding a secondary quality R2R DAC get one into a diminishing returns situation? Wonder if it would be worth it or just stick with the built-in Eversolo DAC
My DMP-A6 sounds clear but it's a flat 2d wall of sound, whereas my r2r Denafrips Ares II 12th sounds 3D more realistic. I liked the Ares so much that I moved it to my living room 2ndary system and upgraded to the Denafrips Pontus II 12th-1 in my primary system.
I own the A8, and a network player at x6 the price, the A8 offers way more bang for your relative buck esp in terms of functionality , for casual listening even the sound quality is a close run thing. In short you have to pay significant multiples to improve on the A8 sound. Not enough is made of the CD playing function, add a remote $25 external CD drive, and A8 sound , esp if required, comfortably beats a $1k CD player. Great video , thankyou, mirrors my hands on experience .
The M33 is an integrated amplifier, and its transparent preamp/DAC mixed with the lifeless amplifier section also made it an impressive product but a no-go for me. The A8 allows me to add any amp I want, and because its a window to the amplifier, I can now experience the amps' different signatures better.
I guess that streamer would work really good with a Rega Brio. You need to try it, even with another streamers and give us your feedback! Hugs from Switzerland!
This preamp does not have a built-in phono preamp, so the sound of your vinyl records will be most impacted by your choice of third-party preamp and the turntable you're using. The A8 doesn't color the sound anymore (or less), so that's good.
No, it doesn't make it easier. Separating the conversation allows us to include more of it. So much was ending up on the cutting room floor that we felt it would be better to create a separate video -- which we hope makes everyone happy. Those who never watch past Andrew's review get what they want, and those who like the back-and-forth get even more!
I think I need to clarify two things about the Eversolo BEFORE our follow-up video later in the week. First, while the A8 has what appear to be 2 HDMI ports, one in and one out, it is NOT a multi-channel or home theater device. The Eversolo will not pass through nor send a video signal to your TV. It is also a stereo-only product, meaning you cannot send a native multi-channel or surround sound signal to its HDMI ARC/eARC input and get surround sound. If you connect this to your TV (like I did), you must make sure your TV is outputting PCM Stereo via its HDMI ARC/eARC port to work with the A8. Many TVs do this automatically, so there's no need to worry, but if yours doesn't, that's the setting to check for.
The HDMI port found with the A8's digital outputs is known as an IIS (or i2S) connection. While it uses a form of an HDMI-style termination, it is NOT an HDMI connection in the traditional sense. Apologies if I was unclear about this or simply glossed over it without further explanation. This is a relatively new way to connect digital components, such as a streamer or transport, to an outboard DAC, but it is not yet standardized*. (*source: Wikipedia) PS Audio and a few other companies use this digital connection method on their devices rather than the older-school method, which was RJ-45 or similar. The A8 supports DSD and PCM output through this IIS/i2S HDMI-looking port. Like the HDMI input, though, the HDMI-looking IIS/i2S port DOES NOT support video and is NOT INTENDED for home theater use. Hope this clears up any and all confusion, and I apologize for any misunderstandings. We will no doubt discuss this topic and more in greater detail in our follow-up video.
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless.
I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects.
Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
What's the $10,000 preamp/streamer?
One is actually an IIS output, just a different digital output option.
Real test is again the Auralic Altair g1.1.
Other British reviewer stated the g1.1 sounds better
@robinsonbrand : This might have been mentioned elsewhere, but since I deem it important: The DMP-A6 outputs MultiChannel 5.1 via it‘s HDMI out. This is for multi-layer SACD‘s , which I play vie SMB from either PC or NAS. It also outputs DTS ( CD ). For the SACD, you can select the 2.0 or 5.1 stream on the DMP-A6‘s touch screen. As far as I can see, the A8 does not offer this.
I bought the A8 a couple months ago and I have it running into the Schitt Tyr monoblocks to my Magnipan LRS+’s. I use the rca out into a svs PB2000. I love the simplicity of the setup compared to previous separate setups I have had. The sound quality is excellent. The total set up was 6500$ for a great midfi system. So far the Eversolo A8 is my favorite hifi component I have owned in 20 years in this hobby. Hopefully it remains reliable.
Do you crossover on the subwoofer itself or do you make use of the internal DSP ?
I love Kristi's new idea!!!! This way we get more videos of the best channel on you tube!!
THANK YOU.
You are a good husband, I can tell , Kristi is truly your queen!
Appreciate that!
He's the best!
Thanks for the review Andrew! :) I heard Eversolo DMP A6 as a transport paired with Gustard R26 R2R DAC at a friend's house. It was very impressive. The Gustard R26 is an incredibly good DAC, airy, musical, analog, smooth, but at the same time fast and very dynamic, with a huge sound stage. I hope I managed to do a test with my friend comparing Eversolo A6+ Gustard vs Eversolo A8.
It is night & day difference adding the gustard to A6 or just little improvements ?
@@valentinpetrita9335 Not night and day, but definitely better. The A6's own DAC sounds a bit sharper and the sound image extends into the high range, while the Gustard is smoother and more balanced.
I don't need and can't really afford kit like this. I'm just compelled to listen anyway - I still learn something about kit in my budget, and your logical non-drama approach really stands out from the pack - and tbh I just really enjoy listening. Thank you!
Hi Kristi and Andrew! I purchased the DMP-A8 when it first hit the US market last year. So far, it has been fantastic. I took the leap and spent the extra money based on some early reviews. I now use it as my dedicated media hub and utilize it's internal DAC. It's that good. I use the XLR outputs directly to a pair of monoblock amplifiers and a powered subwoofer via the RCA outputs. It has superb sound quality (dare I say audiophile high-end level sound?), super flexible in it's usability with a myriad of inputs and outputs. It is so good, I removed my separate Denafrips Ares II DAC and Denafrips Hades preamplifer and use the Eversolo as a unified source/preamp instead. The screen and it's multitude of options and VU meters are great. The internal DSP and PEQ has been a life saver with my difficult-to-control room acoustics. The A8 is built exceptionally well and feels and sounds like the asking price. In general, the internal streamer is quite good, but I have just a few nits to pick. It is a little sluggish scrubbing or switching through tracks. The drill down in streaming menus and accessing existing playlists and favorites can be a little clunky. I previously had the Bluesound Node, while the A8 sounds better, the Node's menu format may be just a little bit easier to operate. All in all though, this thing rocks...highly recommended.
Really appreciate you sharing your experience! It's a great piece, for sure!
Just wanted to pop in and say this video looks amazing. In my humble opinion, your sense for aesthetics and design is on another level compared the other 99% on youtube. Looking forward to seeing the next one. No pressure ;)
Thank you!
I have been running my A8 for about a month as a replacement for my Cambridge CXNV2. The upgrade was not incremental, but enormous. The dac alone is worth the asking price.
What amp are you using?
@@ivandragicevic6786 Pair of Schiit Aegir, Class A monoblocks.
I did exactly the same - the upgrade to the EverSolo DMP A8 is huge in comparison
@@TheKeldman Amp or powered speakers? I have CXA81 integrated amp, wonder if it would be a good combo with A8.
Great review Andrew. I have enjoyed my A8 now for 4 months. This well done unit is the best bargain I have ever owned in 50 years of audiophilia. The A8 feeds a Parasound Halo driving Cornwall 4s. Fills my listening room with beautiful music.
I think the fact that you voted for it with your wallet says it all. Especially when someone like you guys does it. You get tons of access to products for review well beyond what a person just searching for that one thing does. So it has to be one damn good product and it seems to be. Glad to see more and more competition in this segment.
Love the review and all the points!
Can’t wait to see more conversation episodes.
Hope everyone has an awesome day!
Full disclosure, I don't care how Eversolo's marketing team or people conduct themselves, as they (at least in my experience) are a little heavy-handed with their wants/needs, which is a shame because their products CAN and DO stand on their own. I bought the A8 at retail instead of putting up with them. Had it not performed I would've returned it, but seeing as how it did (and then some) I paid the credit card bill and this baby is MINE! Glad I did, too, as it's harder to get your hands on than unobtainium.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I totally get it. I think everyone should do exactly that. Buy it, try it yourself, and return/find something else if it didn’t fit. Instead of chasing the hype. I’m glad the product is actually worth buying and I do agree that their marketing should take a chill pill… as do others as well! Enjoy your new baby! 💪
Happy Sunday morning Andrew and Kristi. Great review. Andrew you're absolutely glowing over this one. Keep the good stuff coming.
I rarely come across a product that reacts exactly how I would want a product to behave. I swear, it's like EverSolo read my mind when designing and developing the A8. If it was a full-width product and came in slightly different finishes, it would be absolutely perfect for me!
Damn. I'm impressed. I'm keeping this on the short list if I get a streamer/pre-amp. Thanks guys.
At 4:57 we see the selection for using both XLR and RCA outputs at the same time. If you select both you lose most of the low bass from the XLRs. I thought there was a crossover doing this or something in the DSP/EQ doing it but there wasn't. Turned down the vol on my subs and the mains had no bass using both outputs. I switched back and forth for 2 days and somehow the little SMSL D6S budget DAC sounds a little better driving amps directly via XLR than the A8.
I have been waiting for the NAD M66 to come available. This review has me thinking twice about that now. At half the price this might be my next component purchase. Thanks for the great review!
We requested to review the NAD but I'm not sure if we'll be given the opportunity.
NAD can't play native Apple Music lossless and hi-res lossless. NAD can't rip CDs or store 4TB music locally.
@@mrpmj00 Good info and all the more reason to go with the Eversolo. Thanks!
If only the eversolo was as gorgeous as the Classé 😂
Great review, thank you!
The Classé is pretty!
I’ve been waiting for this one
Hope it was worth the wait!
Love my A8 I received 2 months ago. Good break in was about 100 hours. Agree with Andrew on his review. Last firmware update did not make it Roon Ready, I emailed with Eversolo customer support and Roon won't get to the A8 for another several weeks. If you use Roon it will only play airplay at AC3 format. I use Tidal connect and the DMP A8 rocks the sound. A8 I2S is compatible with Pontus II 12th Ann edition. This box is incredible value, just buy it.
How can electronics break in? My PC didn't get faster after 100 hours :(
The last firmware update has broken the embedded Tidal player in my A8. Now it struggles to play tracks that have high bitrate because of insufficient buffering even when connected to a gigabit Ethernet. But the Tidal Connect still works fine
Thank you Andrew. I completely agree on the comparisons between products with significant delta's in price point. At the end, as an audiophile in a on-going journey I am building my system to my specific budget and I cannot help to wonder what if saving for the next tier would actually be rewarding. Of course value is a completely subjetive variable but ultimately it serves a lot that although you may have subjective taste's, you do have experience enough to discern between a wide range of products that we usually do not have the budget, availabily or time to do audition or experience. Thanks again, Regards from Mexico!
Wow that looks nice with the 8300. And your space is looking great too. Have a great week.
Thanks, you too!
Very enthusiastic review, thanks Andrew. I just ordered one for my secondary system. I am excited to compare it to the ~$6,800USD Cary Audio DMS-700 DAC/Streamer/Preamp that I use in my reference system.
I have a feeling you'll likely find the A8 provides a sensation of greater detail at the "expense" of artificial warmth or added mid-bass and softer treble voicing. Please check back in and let me know how it goes!
Good morning Andrew and Krist. Thanks for the review. This seems to be a kickass unit across the board.
Absolutely kick-ass! Thanks for watching!
In the follow up can you do a bit more on the preamp functionality? Balance control, switching left right channels , mono mode and ‘old fashioned’ tone control?
Noted.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews apologies, I’m an old school guy- it’s probably in all the dsp functionality you discussed but I get lost😀
This unit looks very promising, modern Hifi I would say. Also, I like your guises approach on after the review segments.
Of course I gave it a thumbs up but ....I need that KAF (Kristi Approval Factor) . Will be tuning into the follow up.
😃
You'll find that here: ruclips.net/p/PL0M9xqvUDwdxMlk6xa68W7kf0YA0Xn43u&feature=shared
Yep, I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 with the LPS upgrade as just a streamer. It plays native Apple Music lossles, hi-res lossless.
I use an external r2r Denafrips Pontus II 12th dac and Denafrips Iris 12th (ddc) and Cardas Parsec RCA interconnects.
Parasound 2100 preamp for the home theater bypass and L/R balance to my Arcam AVR5 7.4.4 setup. As good as the Eversolo DMP-A6's volume knob sounded, the Parasound's volume knob sounds better.
I've had the A8 for a couple of days and I'm very happy I returned it. It's a great build and I like all the possibilities. But I don't like the sound it produces at all. It sounds flat, thin and harsh. It made me lose the fun of listening to my music. Firstly I swapped the A8 with my current dac. Later I connected my dac to the Xlr input of the A8. So I have also tested the pre amp of the A8. It hardly added or changed anything positive compared to when my dac is directly connected to my power amp.
Some folks don't like a transparent or colorless sound, and that's okay. You need to invest in the product that is going to bring you the most joy. Appreciate you sharing your experience.
If "coloration" leeds to far more seperation, depth and letting the speakers disappear, then I can't have coloration enough. Listening to the Eversolo Dmp-a8 made me just sit there waiting for the music to start playing.
It's a pity because I liked everything else about it beside the choppy and hard clicking volume adjustment. But you can live with that.
Yep, my A6 sounds clear but it's flat (2D wall of sound) compared to my r2r Denafrips Ares II 12th which sounds 3D.
I liked the Ares so much that I moved it to my living room 2ndary system and upgraded to the Denafrips Pontus II 12th-1 in my primary system.
I have had the A6 and the Ares and now the A8. For me the soundstage on the A8 is deeper than either.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews There you go again, telling people their ears and personal experience is wrong.
Really like the glasses look! Hope y'all are doing well!
If you forget to set the audio to PCM and attempt to watch a Dolby Digital movie, you will have the full pleasure of hearing full bandwidth digital noise. I wonder why Eversolo simply didn't put a fully surround capable chipset in the A8 since the marketing implies streaming as well as video usage. Nobody cares about PCM surround any longer.
I own the A6-Master version. I agree with Andrew regarding the sound quality. The A8 will be even better.
I loved 'trash talk' and the idea of a different follow-up format - but - you might want to consider that old format on the reviews was actually what differentiated your channel. I valued Kristi's views on the product from the perspective of how my partner would feel about 'living' with it just as much as Andrew's product evaluation and comparisons. Putting that section in was genius, makes what you do unique and added some welcome unscripted opinion and humour (see recent rants on NAD, Diamond Series style bypass and Kristi's take on power amps or the universal remotes in the 21st century). As entertaining as these moments are, they also publicly underline your independence and credibility in the space. Keep the old format and get trash talk? Pretty please 🤣
Hi Andrew and thanks for the review.
Just one thing that's been bothering me. Simon from "13th Note Reviews" was offered a free A8 unit from Eversolo in exchange for a review. Simon could have kept the unit for himself afterwards but he declined the offer and did not review the sample for obvious moral reasons. I was wondering if Eversolo had approached you with any such offer? You mentioned in the review that you bought the unit with your own money...
Coffee at the ready once again. Here we go!
Hello Max!
Really proud of this review and am in love with the product!
@@KristiWrightHello there!
So happy when Eversolo recently updated online the A6 software to include the EQ feature. Yeah 👏👍
Great Sunday Andrew & Kristi.
Thanks! Appreciate you joining us!
Hei Andrew. Love your reviews and I did learn a lot from them.I’m a person who likes to enjoy good music without have to sell a kidney to do that😂😂I’m watching you from Oslo,Norway. Today I was to an hi-fi show ,to see, to hear and maybe to buy Yamaha R N2000A😊 but …l saw and heard Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition paired with Eversolo AMP-F2 amplifier and it sound absolutely amazing. Now I really don’t know what to do…I have a pair of old Klipsch rf82 and Klipsch 112 s subwoofer . Help 😅
New FW allow Apple Music native now…. Very nicely done!
Awesome review, thanks guys!
How would you compare the EverSolo vs the Moon Ace?
I feel that both have a similar sound quality.
Love the A8. I had the A6, then got the A8 when it first came out. The sound quality is definitely better on the A8, at least with my Klipsch Heresy IV speakers. The A6 was brighter & harsh when doing the ab comparison between the two. Sold the A6
Great timing! Been looking at this in my search for a steamer for Apple Music mainly. This is at the top of my list so far in that regard.
Looking forward to any follow up vids!
Thanks, and yes, that is a way better product than last week's offering. lol I am always up against the pervasive high end stereo vs. A/V but have chosen A/V and just soldier on as my wife and I truly are a 50/50 music/ movie family. lol
I always ask this question and never get an answer. How are these dedicated music streamers any better than, say, a Shield TV running Plex or JellyFin with full bandwidth into a traditional AVR? Don't have to worry about onboard DACs since the connection is straight digital. And you can't really ask for better than your actual TV in terms of displaying metadata and high-res artwork (plus you're already using a decent remote to control everything). I mean, I look at these devices -- they're definitely nice-looking and I can easily see them in my EC but I feel like I already have this functionality in a potentially better and simpler incarnation.
Those sources are noisy (EMI and RF), and don't have good clocks. They're fine for starter systems or background music.
I have the DMP-A8 and I love it. Great review Andrew. Dead on.
How would you compare
the Eversolo DMP-A8 to
the DMP-A6 Master Edition?
And does the DMP-A6 have
the same CD rip function?
The Cambridge sound quality as being described as “analogue sounding”, is very attractive
God bless if you are happy with this. Many of us would have to spend a lot more to be satisfied, and, at the end, satisfaction only lasts so much till we chase the next best thing
While I'll continue to review new preamps as they're released (it's my job, after all), the Eversolo is what I bought for myself.
I really enjoy your guys channel. So you mentioned an issue with the new ChiFi products in a recent discussion about the problems with the Wiim Amp. I really like the features of the A8, but am a bit concerned about $1980. And only a one year warranty. Doesn't instill much confidence for me to purchase. What is your opinion of Eversolo's quality. Does it really sound that great, or is everybody in on hyping it up?
Thank you.
As someone who owns the classe delta pre and stereo amp, I can say it’s a very fussy duo to setup. First, you have to run in xlr. RCA only gives you about 50% of the capability. Secondly, you have to have the rca plugs in rca inputs.
Next, in order to get the true capability of the pre you have to change settings so there is only one input and output on at a time. Then you have to make sure the pre is in bypass mode. If it’s not in bypass then the dsp will be engaged and it will sound like digital trash
Lastly, the dac in it sucks. Add a dedicated dac to it and you will see how truly expansive and wrap around soundstage it is capable of
Your link to Amazon for the eversolo dmp-a8 gets a bunch of A6 products. Ooops.
Because Amazon isn’t selling it atm apparently
The link we created originally went to the A8 and now appears to be redirecting. I have no explanation as to why.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews It is no problem for me as I was just curious about the price, which I don't believe you mentioned in your video. But if you're getting affiliate commissions I thought I'd let you know.
Thank you for the review. I was planning to buy the Marantz CD50n because I also wanted a new CD player but now I am leaning more towards the A8 and an extra CD player 😂
Different question: where can I buy the concrete looking furniture? I like it a lot!
Eversolo came and mopped the floor with the competition, especially in it's price range. I've had the A6 and got the A8 for the i2s output and analog preamp capabilities.
NAD isn't comparable because they're always built with trash parts the folks at the factory have found laying around - always somewhere C-tier capacitors that guarantee a short lifespan, conveniently placed close to hot heatsinks to amplify the effect. NAD, Cambridge Audio and Audiolab are notorious for this. I've seen a dead Audiolab 8200CD with about 20-30% of the cheap chinese PSU caps already blown open at the top, it's nuts.
I've opened and thoroughly inspected the A8 and it's a league above in terms of build quality, 'worst' parts I've seen in an Eversolo are Samyoung electrolytics which are robust and been used by SoTM for example for many years while NAD is mostly stuffed with C-Tier stuff like Lelon and the likes.
These are nothing more than SMSL rebadged lmao
How does it compare to Hifi Rose?
Great review, thanks. It’s great you’re committed to good value hifi. Based on the last vid, “We’ve actually been working on stuff…” only adds to the marital speculation. 😂❤
Was considering buying it, now with your affirmation I feel ready to purchase
I think it's worth it. I'm not returning mine.
I lived with the A8 for several weeks as I awaited service on my Modwright tube stage moded CXN. For the first week I used it as an all-in-one and I was left there quite unimpressed, but then when I disengaged the preamp/volume control, in favor of the passive volume stage of my Van Alstine SET 120 control, the performance improved quite substantially, leading me to conclude the preamp/volume control of the A8 significantly lowers the ceiling of its DAC/Streamer performance. I'd give it an A as a DAC/Streamer in its price class, but a C as an all-in-one front end, so just consider that depending on how you plan on using it.
How does it compare with your modded CXN ? Do you turn on digital pre amp on the cxn for digital volume control at least?
The volume output varies based on how you configure the outputs. If you isolate RCA or XLR versus leave them both on. Did you try that? Also, applying or turning on the DSP functionality lowers the output by 5dB in order to preserve headroom as some may choose to boost certain frequencies versus cut them.
@@delvalle9256 The moded CXN is far superior across the audio spectrum, either with the preamp engaged or bypassed vs the A8, but it's a significant modification with a world class tube stage, and the modification isn't being done anymore... So it's not really a fair fight. There's only something like 35 Modwright moded CXNs out there.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews yes, I isolated the outputs and never had the DSP engaged. The presentation was much more vivid when the volume/preamp was bypassed. It was not subtle in my system.
@@matthewjoy1864 I have a modded one myself, hopefully it won’t break. You can’t deny as a streamer the CXN software although vastly improved from where it started is really not on par with the eversolo software especially outside of Spotify, Tidal , Qobuz .
Im late but better late than never!!!! Eversolo has been a beast!
So far, every one of my Eversolo products has exceeded my expectations.
I would really love to have something like this, but the problem is, there is no headphone connection. That is the only problem I have with this device. But it really looks stunning!
I added a Aune S17 to my system. At $700 it still keeps the cost well below competing preamps. Generally the installed headphone amps aren’t the best anyway.
Great review. Imagine this having dirac included for bass management. Since you brought up NAD, what about the 658 and or 399 you reviewed? You classified those as sterile sounding. What is eversolo doing that doesnt make it sound sterile to you? Also, when paired with amps you tried, is sound quality better than the rotel ras5000 you just reviewed and loved?
The Eversolo doesn't have an internal amp, so the character of the amps I have in-house shines through when I use the A8. The NAD gear uses types of Class D (or hybrid amps) that I just don't like --but that's just me and my opinion. When paired with the 8300XP, I get Levinson vibes. When paired with the A35.2 from Primare, it was more reminiscent of my Krell or Rotel amps back in the day.
As with all heavily software-defined things, it can be discarded after 2-3 years, considering it already runs an outdated Android OS. At this moment in time, though, it's awesome.
Yes. I'm looking forward the the upcoming wiim ultra to fix that. (Not android based) Bluesound node also seems like a good option but no peq.
@Jose How is WiiM any different when it comes to products that can be discarded? Buying something $200 at a time will end up being even more expensive in the long term.
@@KristiWright the software/ ui isn't android based, that's why. All of these units are heavily software dependent. I want to see what happens to these units when android gets updated. What do you mean "buy something $200 at a time"? Haven't heard of major problems with wiim or bluesound products. Both are well known for their software quality and constant updates. Even still, would be less pissed off to discard a few hundred dollars product rather than one costing almost 10 times as much, wouldn't you? A bit sad as i've heard the upcoming wiim will have a screen though. Even less future proof i guess.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Yes, exactly. Also, adding a screen is a really bad idea, considering how much display tech is developing now. I can bet Eversolo will not support this thing in three years. With WiiM-style devices, for the same amount spent, I can be on the latest SW tech for 10 years. Things will change a lot during that time :)
I'm not in the habit of burning money, even $100 at a time, but I'm not surprised at your thinking. Some brands (and channels) have done a fantastic job convincing you that spending a little at a time to chase the latest update is entirely reasonable and acceptable. Meanwhile, all those other products are sitting on a shelf collecting dust.
In my experience, Bluesound makes pretty reliable products, so I don't include them in the same category. The WiiM (WiiM amp), on the other hand, is one we found multiple issues with.
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
Looks amazingly cool!
I have an Denafrips Ares II dac. Would you get the A8 and use its internal dac or use an A6 connected to the Ares II? Yes I would need to buy the A6. Really looking forward to the new Kristi's Komments..........😀
I have the Ares 12th, and actually like the A8's internal DAC better (connected through USB or I2S with good cables). I usually prefer R2R DACs, but the chips in the A8 are really good!
Hello Andrew
I'm sorry, but you made a mistake. At minute 1:43, that is not an HDMI port but an IIS port even though the connector is identical. You should make a correction ASAP because if some unfortunate person follows you and connects the TV to that port, you can have both devices on your conscience :)
Otherwise an excellent review as always
Thank you
Why is there not a universal wiring configuration standard for i2s yet?? 😩
Boaty Mcboatface here, I'm not sure if you are still answering questions on this video/device. I missed out on your live chat. My place of employment was ransacked by a tornado a week and a half ago and we've been busy picking up the pieces. In any case, I just ordered the DMP-A8, I have a few questions. 1) in general, does DSP PEQ affect soundstage and imaging. 2) l've look through the manual and I didn't see much about setting up high pass, low pass filtering. I'm assuming that one set of outputs (RCA or Balanced) can be set up for high pass and the other for low pass) is that a correct assumption. 3) Does the DSP feature work on analog inputs?
Hello Mr. Robinson. I'm new to this audiophile hobby, I currently have a 5.1 system (Marantz receiver, Triangle Speakers, Martin Logan Sub, U-Turn Orbit vinyl player with built-in phono) a lot of my stuff I bought after watching your videos and now I wanna add a streamer. I like ALL of the EverSolos but if I get any of them should I add a separa amp and not go thorough the Marantz receiver? Any recommendations? Thanks. Love your videos.
In regards to the HDMI, does it have a 2.1 pass through that allows for PS5 features like 120hz/ VRR etc? Does it stream bit perfect hi res Qobuz services? Thanks & great review
Tune in for our follow up video later in the week, we're going to address a couple of questions having to do with HDMI.
Hi, can you also explore a subwoofer addition you mentioned (DSP settings, HPF/LPF etc), thanks !@@andrewrobinsonreviews
Edits were so clean in this video
Thanks!
curious how this would compare with Lumin
is the sound quality way apart or small, comparing the MiniDSP SHD to DMP A8?
only focussing on the DAC conversion and analog preamp output section.
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thanks.
Afternoon Andrew and Kristi
Hello!
Morning KJ! Thanks for joining us!
Great review, I would love to get your thoughts/comparison of the Hifi Rose 150B ?
More than happy to talk about it if they send one!
Hey Andrew and Kristi. I’ve heard the DMP-A8 DAC is warmer than the A6. Do you feel that way? Is it better, or just a different sound signature? Thanks!
Yes - I love this thing too .. Hands down some of the best out there.
hahaha .. 70% of the questions in here would be answered if they wrote it in google instead ...or looked it up on the webpage. Yikes. That's an easy help to your algorithm statistic. =)
Hello Andrew, I would like to see a review with Eversolo DMP-A8 with Nakamichi 11.4.6 speakers. Your reviews on both are outstanding. Thanks.
I would have loved more exploration of how this brings Apple Music High Res into a Hi Fi system. Also you described the I2S output as a HDMI output - does this mean it can fulfil both I2S and HDMI functions and is this configurable?
PS: missing Kristi’s reaction part more than I thought I would to be honest!
I appreciate your kind remarks. Check back later this week for our second episode of "Unplugged!"
RE: HDMI - This does not transmit video but it has all the other functions for ARC/eARC.
You'll find here here going forward: ruclips.net/p/PL0M9xqvUDwdxMlk6xa68W7kf0YA0Xn43u&feature=shared
I miss Kristi's immediate thoughts.. 💭💭💭
I appreciate that.
I miss them too but it sounds like we get more of it in a second video. Good things come to those who wait.
@@stephenbrockway5899 That's the right way to look at it! Thanks for watching!
It's not even a complete review without her. I think Andrew just wants to show off his new glasses.
@@E4xtream I know exactly how you feel. When they roll out the follow up video we will get 3 to 4 times our usual Kristi fix. The way they were doing it her comments were averaging 5 minutes and last Friday we got over 20 minutes of their conversation/commentary. I hope this makes you feel better.
Hi Andrew. Can you make playlists for the internal storage such as CD rips? Also can you play music from a network NAS? It sounds like a pretty great component for the money.
Great review! I’d really like to give this guy a shot.
FYI. The link in your description to the A8 actually links to the A6.
It's the correct link. I believe it's being redirected by ES. Sorry for the confusion.
Cast of Apple Music is hi res losless v Airplay2 , so it is for me a better streamer period
I just got mine and it has a high output preamp. These types of products always start out too bright for my taste and I haven't broken it in enough yet (3 days).
I am fully convinced by the A8 it wins out in so many ways but I am really only looking for the best streamer of this quality. At £500 less (Approx.) there is the Volumio Rivo that as a streamer is supposed to be in the same league.
I would love to hear your opinion in a comparison video. thanks.
PS follow up sessions sounds good.
You can watch the first one here :) ruclips.net/video/UU_mjRIrvlk/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Volumio can't play native Apple Music lossless and hi-res lossless. Volumio can't rip CDs or store 4TB music locally.
Hans Beekhausen reviewed the RIVO. he liked it. He also likes the Magna Mano streamer. I'm using Magna Mano. It's excellent sound quality. (going into a Holo Audio DAC via I2S)
What is the best 2ch amp you'd match with this for under $7,500?
My favorite pairing in our house was this bit.ly/3FnlrWs
Okay so do you think the d8 would be a good pairing with the rotel 1592 m2 or should I just get a d8 and use a power amp?
Hi Andrew and Kristi, what’s your choice between the DMP-A8 and the Technics SU-GX70 that you have also reviewed? I’m more interested in the pre amp and streaming features on the Technics. Does one dac, streamer and sound win over the other?
I have to politely disagree with one major part of this review. The part where you say this replaces a true preamp. I own the A8 and I made that mistake. I sold my musical fidelity M8Xi for a Parasound jc5 and thought my eversolo a8 would be fine on its own. I was COMPLETELY incorrect. The music was flat, dull and lifeless. I had been aware before I did this I could end up going backwards in sound quality but hoped it was just paranoia from giving up a very good preamp. I then purchased a Prima Luna evo400 preamp and the sound is better than ever. Eversolo A8 to the preamp- to the amp is the right combination. The A8 is an amazing streamer and incredible DAC but please do not use this as a preamp if you have a revealing system. Plug it into a preamp and let the preamp smooth out that beautiful sound the A8 can make. FWIW almost all my speakers are based on andrew’s recommendations. BW 805 D4 signatures and also bought Martin logan xtf 100 and matching surrounds for home theater. So I do take his opinions incredibly seriously, however I can say for a fact owning this device will be amazing so long as you don’t pretend it can act as a true hifi preamp. It will not be good enough. Trust me as I learned an extremely expensive lesson on this issue. Not critiquing the overall review, just the point about the preamp, as that will without question harm people if they do this without testing before they sell their gear.
It's difficult for me to try and diagnose what you are responding to when using the A8 as a pre. My immediate thought is that you may be responding to the change in your amplifier. Another possibility is that you may have discovered that you don't prefer a more neutral sound- which is fine. Regarding the lifeless, dull, and flat remarks -- the A8 is a more neutral preamp and based on your preference for the Prima Luna, a tube-based preamp, it seems like you prefer a preamp with more tone or color. Additionally, there may be an output gain mismatch with your current amplifier. In that case, you may find that you have to increase the volume on the A8 compared to what you are used to on the M8xi. I know if you engage the A8's DSP functionality, it will automatically curb the EverSolo's dynamic range by 5 dB. This can be disengaged or adjusted. All that said, the speakers you own are more revealing, and it's possible that you just got a little too much of a good thing, and the Prima Luna helps soften things up.
Again, hard to fully access without being in your room but those are my initial thoughts. In the end, I'm glad to know you found something that works for you.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Perhaps there's something wrong with your system instead? It bothers me that you just assume it's the poster's problem, and make assumptions that they like colored sound.
FYI... I experienced the same issue with my A-8. In my highly revealing system the preamp sounds dull and veiled. Using the A-8 as a DAC-only with a Topping Pre90 as the preamp, there was a dramatic difference. Much more detail and clarity and a lifelike presence compared to the A-8 alone.
My system is highly revealing, and i've moved on from the A8. However it is a fantastic value product for systems with components in a similar price point.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews well I don’t have all the terms down so pardon my ignorance as I attempt to describe haha. I feel that the sound collapses with the A8 straight to an amp. It has dramatically less to no depth or soundstage, the details are gone and the liveliness of the music is gone. There’s no DAC in the Prima Luna preamp, but I think a great experiment for your channel (who am I to say, lol) is if a true preamp added to the chain can improve the sound. That Classe preamp must really suck if the a8 straight to an amp sounds better than running the A8 into the Classe preamp then into an amp. If you’re ever in Saratoga, NY you’re welcome to listen to mine directly but since you already have the 805D4’s and the A8 I would highly recommend giving the primaluna a try in the signal chain because the sound improvement will be dramatic. I run basic Mogami XLR from the A8 to the Primaluna to the Parasound. But I’m telling you there’s a massive difference, like not a small difference. And while I have your attention temporarily thank you for pointing me in the direction of the XTF100’s and matching surrounds, as well as the 805D4’s because I wouldn’t be enjoying the gear I have without your sharing of them. So thank you, sincerely.
MiniDSP has Dirac, so not only FIR but also IIR filters, what about this possibilities in the A8? Could be a solution for many people….
Parametric EQ downsampling. How does it affect the sound quality? Thinking of using it to connect a sub via unbalanced outputs, sending the balanced outputs to a power amplifier.
I have the Hi Fi Rose RS/150 B, and the streamer and DAC are very good. However, using it as a pre amp using E Arc or the optical in my two channel system, the voice never matches the mouth on the TV for home theater.
I need a real pre amp now.
That's unfortunate but not surprising. We experienced lip-sync issues with the RS and the 250, not to mention operating system, touch screen, and CEC issues, plus we went through multiple units in an attempt to solve them.
Suppose I have a Naim Uniti Atom that I use purely as a streaming DAC pre-amp. I could sell it and get the DMP-A8 instead to do the same job. Should I? I only care about the overall sound quality, not about any differences in features (e.g. touchscreen, outputs, etc). I know you don't have an Atom anymore, but do you think the DMP-A8 have a leg up over the Atom in sound quality as a streamer/DAC/preamp?
First and foremost: I follow your channel since Columbus "discovered" America. Your content is amazing. Also, your reviews have become a detriment to my wallet and my marriage but I like living on the edge. I sometimes come home late with boxes avoiding my wife and telling my dogs to hush.
Here I am again: I have an Ifi Zen Streamer into a Stellar Gold DAC and a Stellar Gold Preamp (both PS Audio) feeding a Parasound JC5 amp. Have you heard the Ifi Zen Streamer? If so, do you think I would benefit from upgrading to the A8?
Thank you Andrew. I love your channel. Please help this neophyte! 🙂
Hi Andrew. Thanks for the review. I’m trying to decide what speakers to get next for music. What are your thoughts on the focal aria evo x 4 I like the look of them or the dynaudio evoke 50s
About time!
Thanks for the great review, Andrew. Given the quality of this DAC in your opinion would adding a secondary quality R2R DAC get one into a diminishing returns situation? Wonder if it would be worth it or just stick with the built-in Eversolo DAC
I see no reason to add a DAC on top of this, but that's just me.
My DMP-A6 sounds clear but it's a flat 2d wall of sound, whereas my r2r Denafrips Ares II 12th sounds 3D more realistic. I liked the Ares so much that I moved it to my living room 2ndary system and upgraded to the Denafrips Pontus II 12th-1 in my primary system.
@@mrpmj00 interesting. How do you like the Pontus compared to the Ares?
Curious, which did you like better between the Audiolab 8300XP and the Cambridge Audio Edge W?
Hey!! How does it compare to the new Denafrips Pontus 12-1 DAC
Hi! We have not had the opportunity to test the Denafrips. I would be happy to take a look at their products if they are interested.
I own the A8, and a network player at x6 the price, the A8 offers way more bang for your relative buck esp in terms of functionality , for casual listening even the sound quality is a close run thing. In short you have to pay significant multiples to improve on the A8 sound. Not enough is made of the CD playing function, add a remote $25 external CD drive, and A8 sound , esp if required, comfortably beats a $1k CD player. Great video , thankyou, mirrors my hands on experience .
Wow. Sounds like a beast...
Love your review - but isn’t the ability to provide unvarnished response the problem you raised with the NAD M33?
The M33 is an integrated amplifier, and its transparent preamp/DAC mixed with the lifeless amplifier section also made it an impressive product but a no-go for me. The A8 allows me to add any amp I want, and because its a window to the amplifier, I can now experience the amps' different signatures better.
definitely gonna be a front runner, even this early, for your product of the year
oh, totally.
I guess that streamer would work really good with a Rega Brio. You need to try it, even with another streamers and give us your feedback! Hugs from Switzerland!
Do you think the DMP-A6 or DMP-A8 would pair well with an Atessa, 6000a or 7000a?
hello, good review thanks! how to connect my speakers with analog plugs left and right on the receiver
Will having two videos per product make your workload easier?
If it does, do it.
Could I get a little more on how vinyl sounded through the preamp.
This preamp does not have a built-in phono preamp, so the sound of your vinyl records will be most impacted by your choice of third-party preamp and the turntable you're using. The A8 doesn't color the sound anymore (or less), so that's good.
No, it doesn't make it easier. Separating the conversation allows us to include more of it. So much was ending up on the cutting room floor that we felt it would be better to create a separate video -- which we hope makes everyone happy. Those who never watch past Andrew's review get what they want, and those who like the back-and-forth get even more!