Also Jasmine's outfit is completely inaccurate to the climate. There is a reason why in hot dessert climates and even hot humid climates like those in India and the Arabian peninsula people wear loose clothing that covers a lot of their body. My girl jasmine would be extremely sunburnt.
I hate how disney made her (as well as other princesses ofc) have the perfect bodies. Because they made her waist very small with wide hips,while also being really slim(smh) they made me as well as countless other young girls feel a little self conscious of their already perfect and healthy bodies. I remember how I used to try and pinch my waist by tying a belt as best as I could or else I would'nt look like a princess. I realized just how bad disney is and how much of an impact it can have on little children. Its made more aware bcoz they basically showed a lot of skin in jasmine and ariel( and others too ig). Also, Jasmine's story was set in the arabian peninsula. This means that the weather is extremely hot and sunny, so you can get reallllly bad sunburn(I was brought up in an arabian country so Im telling yall coz kf experience). And also the fact that they made her clothes so "revealing" was disgusting bcoz in arab( and islamic culture), we are required to cover ourselves modestly, which means, we're supposed to wear loose and airy clothes. Basically, as much as they want their new princess to be a BIGHIT and get reallllly wealthy, they shoukd keep in mind abt how much they should consider the historical accuracy as well as the cultures of whatever new princess theyre making. Feel free to correct me politely if Im wrong anywhere and what yall can add to this as well
Right I live in England and a lot of Muslims live here and weark burkas etc and when its hot some people say how arent they sweating under there or when its cold why aren't they freezing under there? But whats amazing about those clothing is that when its hot you stay cool underneath and when its cold you stay warm. Its so fascinating
The only excuse I can think of for making Belle’s dress less historically accurate would be to make it simpler for the animators to draw. Rococo is a gorgeous style, but thinking about drawing each ruffle in each frame is already giving me a hand cramp, haha
Also, as the ballroom scene/dance was such a huge thing, I think they needed a dress with much more graceful 'twirl' in it than a gown with huge paniers could ever manage. Is there any little girl ever who didn't enjoy a dress with a good twirl? And they wisely left off the nasty curled and powdered wig that a noble of that era would have been wearing too. I was pleased to see, though, that in the 2017 remake of Beauty and the Beast, they did more of a nod to accuracy in the prince's original pre-curse outfit and wig...plus, it hid his appearance nicely, so when he was transformed back to human, his handsome looks were a nice surprise to the viewer.
Personally I think it had to do more with marketing. It would be a lot harder to make and sell a rococo style dress for little girls to wear/to put on dolls, than the dress that they actually ended up putting belle in.
As an indigenous canadian, I really appreciate the moment you took to explain the sexual violence against native woman. I really wasn't expecting it, but it was a nice surprise.
I’m an indigenous American and I have to agree with you it was amazing that she took the time to explain sexual violence against native women because it happens everyday on reservations but no one talks about it
Esmeraldas dress is also terrible. She is basically wearing her "underwear", I read the book and it was never written that she was wearing such revealing clothes.
@@nowhyisuck6666 I'm talking about the corset also the red dress as well which is to revealing. I don't understand why Esmeralda always got sexualized, she didn't worse such clothes in the book.
@@konanxhidan3202 Oh, I mean most of the princess had dresses like Esmeralda. I never found it sexual or anything. But the dress was meant to be like that for the story of the film bc Frollo supposed to lust.
@@nowhyisuck6666 I love Disney Esmeralda, she was always my favourite character and I also like her body type but she was too sexualized ! Her dresses were too revealing especially the red one (similar to Jasmines red slave outfit), she is to much portrayed as the *exotic sexy rebellious brown girl* but in the novell Esmeralda was actually a shy, virtuous and a very innocent girl. Just look at her dance, it was basically a pole dance. Frollo wasn't only interested on Esmeralda because she was hot, he was also fascinated by her innocent, pure and kind personality. Except for being nice Disney Esmeralda is NOT portrayed like that simply because to make her more "independent". The same problem is with Jasmine, instead of wearing graceful modest clothes, she is dressed like a prostitute. Remember the three prostitutes in Aladdin ? They were all dressed like Jasmine, a royal princess.
It is- and that’s why I hate and love it Love because it’s pretty just on its own and it fits Ariel as a character she becomes human Hate how it looks on her tho- that pink and that red ain’t working with each other
That's such an interesting take on it and I must agree! It highlights how out of place she was among the humans then. How is it possible that Disney's brilliant artists would make such a clash unintentionally? Her red hair went beautifully with her green eyes and tail as a complementary colour scheme. On the contrary, the pink dress made her almost monochromatic and less dynamic.
Green and red is so overdone and stale to me. The instinct is to dislike a pink & red color combo but it’s actually grown on me a lot throughout life and now I love it. Besides ariels dress is totally adorable
They didnt have to do jasmine like that - literally her dress is nothing like what it should have been and they combined so many different cultures into one and said yep that's what you're all getting. Like arabian and indian and other cultures are so so different, they're just too lazy to give us all some good representation.
They put an Arab princess in a belly dancer’s outfit. It was a show of disrespect, fetishizing and sexualizing Arab women who have always been known to be modest and conservative.
The problem with making the dresses historically accurate is that they have too many details, it would be hell to animate them by hand. But i do agree that there where some shapes and colours they could have changed (especially Jasmine's).
Yea definitely but at the same time, you can still do detailed animations eithout making them too detailed. Like simplifying thise details. Trims can just be one colour with some lines or beads can just be made into shapes or little textures.
I don't blame them for making the dresses simpler and more appealing, but sexualization of the cultural dresses and clothing is very irritating. And the fact they changed Bells dress. The concept art was gorgeous, and not much more detailed than the final product. The dresses are artistic expressions, not made to be accurate, but drive the visual story telling. As the said, accuracy isn't the top priority, considering theirs magic, witches, and other fantasy elements.
The problem is, keeping any detail consistent is a lot of work. Sure making some trim seems easy but you have to make it flow with the rest of the dress in a 3d space. Same with any small bead. You have to keep it consistent within a 3d space. Costs way too much money for something so insignificant
Bree W Animation student here to back this up. To give you an idea, I worked on a 30 second animation that was full coloured and included a more simplified version of a victorian coat. That alone took me about 4 weeks to finish. 3 seconds can take an animator anywhere between a few hours to an entire day depending on how fluid the movement it. Disney strives for very fluid animation where the characters move alot. To animate even really small details at disneys fluidity, on disneys budget at the time, with the amount if staff disney had at the time and the traditional disney framing techniques would be hell! I agree that sexualising a culture is wrong! That’s a given, and adding more fabric and layers in areas for accuracy would be fine. But as for decorative details, nah bro, even back in the 90’s it would be be complicated and it would probably result in staff being underpaid for extra work and unfair outsourcing (something I don’t doubt disney don’t already do oof)
I'm very sorry to hear about that. Whenever I watch true crime or things talking about history that hasn't been revised I'm shocked and disgusted how poorly treated y'all get. It's not fair, you guys are human beings, not some "weird savages" that history tries to paint every indigenous individual as. I don't mean to come off offensive in my wording, I apologize if I have. I don't even want to think about what it's like for indigenous folks who are a part of the LGBTQIA+ community... This is why I hate America. And I live here. It suuuuuuucks.
The reason for the pink vs. blue debate in Sleeping Beauty is because at the time blue was changing from a girl's color to a boy's color and pink visa versa. For Dorothy, Wendy, and Alice their dresses were blue because back then blue was still a girl's color because it was associated with the virgin Mary.
my understanding is that the switch from blue being a girl color and pink being a boy color etc is that it happened around WWII. has it happened multiple times in history?
@@stellarae8257 From my understanding, not really. But for most of history, pink wasn’t a super popular colour because it was just faded red dye and a rich blue colour was expensive to produce. (Until the invention of unique indigo dyes that led to the invention of the blue jean) That’s where the association of the Virgin Mary wearing blue comes from- and Jesus would often be depicted in pink. Pink paint is much more expensive then pink fabric because it’s not just a faded red, it has to be specifically mixed out of red and white paints. I think the use in renaissance and post-renaissance art allowed pink to become a colour in fashion, where it was used mainly for men because it was still highly associated with red and baby Jesus, but evidence of this is based on *paintings* so it’s kind of a self-contradicting topic. Anyways, no, it’s unlikely any switch between blue and pink’s gender-specific colour identity ever happened before the WWII era, because they didn’t really have those strong associations to most people. Just rich peoplez
Wow interesting, that's good to know because my favorite color is blue and I always thought it was mainly a boys color, I know it's a girls color too but I love your comment
I love this video! Jasmine and Pocahontas styles are basically the réflexion of how occidental men see "exotical" women. Thats was just them expressing their fantasies. They never had thé intention to make some historical/cultural accuracies. Definetly agree with the fact that Ariel's dress color was an awful choice. They could have chose turquoise or green it would work for her. And the glitter dress was Amazing i would love Disney to give it more lights, they could have work more on the structure détails of the dress (bottom and waist) it looks like the dress isnt finished yet. Also, I've been saying this forever but Aurora's dresses definetly needed to have more Shades of blue and/or pink in it. It would look way better. About belles dress i've just Always hated the whole style, not only talking about the dress but the hairstyle is... Meh
Okay about the dress color, ariel got her dress from Eric, it's most likely that they had a pink dress laying around rather than a mint green one, also in a lot of her artwork she's shown in a seafoam green dress
Well Disney was originally based on White European culture. PoC demanded to be included because "cultural appropriation" is a one way street steeped in double standards and hypocrisy. To be honest, I'd rather Disney had stayed White. It was better before PoC ruined it.
@@vikingsong2068 Was that supposed to be intentionally racist? Not being rude but just a general question because the last sentence makes the comment look bad in my opinion.
@@vikingsong2068 How about you educate yourself, and stop bombarding other cultures. Sorry that POC are upset about their culture being sexulized, fantasized and misrepresented. Not their fault diseny cant simply eduacte themselves, and be respectful. Sounds more like a you problem than anything.
As someone who is close to my native American ancestry, the movie Pocahontas makes me sick. They literally romanticized a sad story of a CHILD and left out all the icky things and made her older to be more "appealing" like wtf a story like hers shouldn't be changed just to be shared and spread misinformation about how Native Americans were REALLY treated.
i’m not a native american but i’ve always found the movie sick it felt like it was mocking of your culture and they were romanticizing a guy how came slaughtered people and stole land it’s disgusting
It's because of when the movies were made. Unfortunately, those movies, despite to a degree not seeming like it, are both sexist and racist. But back then it was the norm. I like The Princess And The Frog because it's not like that. Edit: I like The Princess And The Frog because it doesn't have a sexualised main female character. Also, frogs are god, don't diss the frog
@@maya4237 atleast they put in a tiny bit of effort, Hispanics don't have a legit disney princess. Sure we have disney tv shows but we don't have a real Disney movie princess which is stupid.
@@maya4237 oh yeah I'm not trying to argue about the amount of effort they put in. Although tiana is beautiful, they are doing women of color dirty. My five year old daughter loves Elena of avalor but there is no legit disney movie princess that she relates to (although Moana is her favorite out of all of them)
im pretty sure back in the day rich women had servants to carry their long trains so it was like a status/wealth thing but now trains seem dumb to have
Fun fact! Historically dresses with trains would have a "dust ruffle", a ruffled bit of sturdy, cheaper fabric under the train that kept the more expensive fabric off the floor and away from dirt. It would be just tacked into place, so that it could be easily removed and replaced for washing or once it got worn out.
They're also usually worn indoors, likely on costly rugs and well maintained floors. Mainly because women, especially of a higher status, tend to stay indoors which also gives preference to fair complexion as opposed to the tans you'd get from toiling under the sun in the fields. And even then, I believe that super long train weren't exactly worn 24/7 because those kinds of gowns were typically reserved for special occasions, like a wedding or ball.
As an artist who has dabbled in animation, it takes a lot of time to draw ruffles and little bits of detail in a dress. Most of the animation studios make the necessary decision to remove details that would take too much time and money to add.
Agreed. The princess dresses all have easy animation features in common. They have a limited color palette, have broad areas of color, simplified shapes and distinct silhouettes.
also i think that since the renaissance era there was set an ideal silouette for the commercialization of the dresses (colors, estructure/shape), so making these super elaborated details would have not been such a success in the eyes of little kids who judge what they want by just the visualization of it.
The whole point of Ariel’s pink dress is that it’s *NOT* hers. It was literally a borrowed dress that they had at the castle and put her in because she didn’t have anything to wear. She was a (literal) fish out of water and it showed that perfectly. It wasn’t really meant to look good on her. Pretty dress and pretty girl but they weren’t meant for each other.
Well it WAS meant to look good on her, this is Disney they'd never be so brave as to intentionally have one of their heroines look 'ugly' in something. But I do get your point and I agree, the dress wasn't made (in the movie) for her, but still would've been nice if the marketing team had caught on to that and put her toys in green sooner. But better late than never I suppose.
Furthermore, the pink color of her dress is a good way to show her love for Eric and the idealization of a life out of the water, something romantic for her.
Raisins and Capers thats why they changed it to the emerald color to compliment her red hair. now face chacters at disney that play her wear the emerald dress
As an Arab woman myself, Jasmine’s dress is very upsetting. They could have made her wear slightly loose drapes (wouldn’t be too upsetting if it is slightly cinched at the waste since they love that) with a sheer veil or something. It would still look veeery pretty. Most Disney princesses wore modestly and still looked nice. Arab women even prior to Islam wore very modestly even with veils.. so I don’t get why they had her dress like a belly dancer ?? No princess at that time would ever wear like that. You wouldn’t see a European princess wear something like that would you?? And what upsets me mostly is how they smashed two cultures together? Like both cultures are individually very rich and could have focused only on one and still had so much substance to work with. It is disrespectful to mix both. Do westerns see us and south asians all the same???
I'm pakistani (so south asian) and from what I've seen... yes, yes westerners seem to think our cultures are the same despite being very, very different.
@@eidolonicentipede I am wondering if you can tell the différences between the different regions of the « Western World » too ... It always seems more diversified in your own region, isn’t it ? 😉 And if you know that even among western european countries, the culture is very different... and even among a single country which can be 5 times smaller than India😅😅 I am French, not a very large country, and there is huge cultural, architectural, cooking differences between regions, and so I am perfectly aware that between the so large Asian continent, there are A LOT of cultural differences SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH but every westerner don’t speak the same language (≈ 40 dialects in France 3 generations ago... before the WW1, the majority of French people didn’t know how to speak French! The « westerners » cannot be seen as previous colonialists considering that 95% of the population (at least in France) was made of peasants ) So, well, speaking about how westerners think doesn’t make more sense than speaking about how « Asians » think, like if they were all thinking or knowing the same thing with such cultural and gerographical distance between them
@@clips_a_la_menthe Ah, sorry, I should havs said "americans" sorry for using the wrong word, english isnt my first language either. In any case, I'm sorry for offending you. I really just meant americans,, and again not all of them just a large percentage.
How is that disrespectful? that's just a fictional movie, i'm pretty sure if that movie was set in one country only people would still find a way to criticize.
The simple answer to why Disney didn't care about historical accuracy in many of their character designs: all those ruffles and folds and details and accessories would be a PAIN to animate.
The reason why the dresses aren’t more historically accurate is because they have to animate it all, if they put tons of ruffles on the dress they’d be drawing those ruffles about a million more times, slowing down the process. Also they are marketing to children so these dresses have to be made into toys and intricate dresses are more expensive to produce than simpler ones. No excuse for not having an accurate silhouette
@@jennas9033 I fail to see how she's sexualized... Maybe in the US, showing a little bit of belly is sexual but that sounds weird to me. I mean, Ariel is literally half-naked for most of the Little Mermaid.
I think she knows that, she’s probably just pointing out what they would actually look like but I think she knows it would be hard for Disney to do that
Let me just add that silhouettes are an incredibly important step of designing an animated character, so that should’ve been the first thing on their minds
@@_blank-_ Ariel is a mermaid, Jasmine is a human arab princess, and one of the most preserved ideology that we have in our culture is Modesty. No arab princess in history has ever wore that. Belly dance customes are made for belly dancers and it doesn’t show just a little belly..... her whole legs, chest n back . Its this the presentation that little arab girls r supposed to have bout our history n how the westerns view us.
I think it's funny how Disney took the German originals and just made everything so sparkly sparkly rainbow unicorn glitter sugary, when in the originals it was more bloody bloody bloodily bloody.
@@hemnamusunur6088 the originals were made for children too. We hear them as bedtime stories here, if we don't wanna hear about ppl whose thumbs get cut off, guys who starve bc they don't like soup or the girl who set herself on fire ofc.
@@confusedpotato5017 maybe kids back then we’re hard as nails or something. I know for the Inuit, storytelling was extremely beneficial for their children [it probably wasn’t bloody though]. For me, I like sparkles. I like the look of glamourised synthetic things.
Honestly thank you so much for speaking about Jasmine's outfit the way you did. As a muslim, Arab woman it really bugged me how inaccurate disney made Jasmine. They had no idea what they were doing, or maybe they just didn't care idk.. I love the line "westernization does not equate feminism". You summed it up perfectly.
Same. I’m Algerian, if you consider that Arab, and I remember being a little girl and being kinda disappointed at her outfit. I was so excited to see a movie depicting something similar to my culture, and possibly a Muslim princess. I was confused when I saw her cause I’d assumed she would be Muslim but her outfit was very wrong, I thought she would be wearing a hijab, or at least some kind of veil. Instead she came out looking more like a belly dancer than a princess.
@@someone-wk2wj EXACTLY!! THIS! She looks exactly like a belly dancer! Which is terrible they're basically sexualising and fetishising "exotic" people. The most sexualised princesses are Jasmine and Pocahontas, the first 2 colored "exotic" princesses... It seriously sucks, especially when our culture is the literal opposite of this.
I am Arab too and I do not mind Disney westernizing her to market to a more western audience, I mean we did have Fulla. However, them modelling her after a belly dancer and the scene where she seduces Jaafar did not sit well with me.
@@judesulieman2245 Nope. Westernisation = white washing = not okay. Representation matters. Whether that's african american, native americans, central asians, east asians, africans, latinas or arabs. Representation matters. Every race's beauty is unique, and they shouldn't have to westernise their features to say "this race is beautiful but their fearures are not; so we'll westernise them so they look more appealing to western people, because their features are not beautiful enough". They should either do it right, or not touch it at all. It is precisely this issue that caused terrible problems with beauty standards for african americans that they are facing to this day!!! The only ones people deem "pretty" and hype up are ones with Caucasian features (small upturned nose, curly but not kinky hair, light skin and colored eyes). This isn't representation, it's fetishising minorities to make them fit the western ideal. Fulla was made by arabs for arabs, Disney is Disney. Disney is something else, Disney is our childhood. It's unacceptable that an underage arabian princess is dressed like a belly dancer throughout the whole movie. It sends the wrong message. Jasmine was already a feminist in the way she thinks, that she isnt property, she isnt a prize to be won. She didn't have to be dressed like that.
@@hanit279 yeah. if ur skin is brown. Like i'm native american and i'm technically a person of colour but my skin is pretty light so i'm not really "brown."
I’m not Native American, but Native Brazilian, and growing up I had zero role models or representation of my people. Pocahontas was the closest thing I had. It sucks how she was designed with the white male gaze in mind, but at the time just seeing a girl who looked like me was so amazing. My feelings on are a lot more bittersweet now that I’ve grown older and learned more about the situation. I really love how you discuss these issues, it’s so important to being awareness to these things!
My take is not to beat ourselves too hard. These movies were products of their time with their shortcomings and problems. They also introduced millions of kids like you and me to characters that were not pasty-white. They told us that we could be heroes too. While it's important to be aware of their flaws and to look for authenticity, we shouldn't go all the way around and throw stones at them. It just means that it's time for us to write our own stories.
Me irrita muito que toda/qualquer representação de países sul americanos e centro americanos, é mostrado como algo mais amarelado e sujo (não só em filmes da disney, mas filmes americanos em geral) acho que pra mostrar pobreza??? E quando tem alguma representação (como em Rio ou Viva a vida é uma festa) é muito esteriotipado e não retratam a cultura direito, mudam e misturam coisas.
Sameee I grew up in a mostly white country and as a little child people would call me Pocahontas, I thought it was a compliment until I read the real story and was heartbroken. I get uncomfortable whenever I think about it now...
I’m from the Peruvian Amazon and I feel this exactly. As a little girl I loved Pocahontas but as I grew older and read the story (after moving to the US) it makes my stomach turn. It also doesn’t help that we (women from the Peruvian Amazon) are desired by het cis men for having “sangre caliente” (sexy/hot blood... as in “sexiness” is in our blood.)
The difference is the colour scheme. It's a nice dress, but it looked bad on Ariel because of her hair colour, while Mina found a way to match it correctly.
@@lpsfairylightz6468 not in the animation, in the animation they aged her so she's around 18...they're talking about the real Pocahontas, the one in the text books
Lilian Alves I know they are talking about textbook- I’m just saying that it’s disgusting that Disney would try to romanticize such things happening to a ten year old.
I don't like Pocahontas because it glorifies colonisation. Like how there was one bad guy and the rest just didn't understand each other. In the song savages thisis made perfectly clear. Disney tries to act like both parties are the same and both are at fault when historically speaking, this is furthest from the truth. They also tried to glance over the brutal treatment of natives in the second film
Also, let's talk about the fact that Jasmine and Pocahontas, two of Disney's most sexualized princesses, were the first Princesses of color and were 15 and 19 (though real life Pocahontas was freakin' 12 when the Jamestown settlers landed). The only good thing about Pocahontas is that Disney (probably, hopefully) won't make a live action adaptation of it. But seriously, thank you for bringing up the fact that these were made by Westerners, for Westerners and how that obscures the facts and skews the truths of these cultures and how they're perceived.
I agree with you, they were both one of the most sexualised princesses and if they DID make a live action pocohontas, i will RIOT. Here's what id want: 1)pocohontas better be twelve 2)she better be played by an indeginous actress 3) there will be an ACCURATE STORY 4) they mention her actual name (matoako, i believe) 5) imagine seeing a little girl DEFEND her enemy. idk kinda sounds badass but indigneous should judge on that scene or not edit: spelling and adding to the list :)
@@nemashan3701 exactly!! There's no way to live action the Disney fairy tale version without being offensive towards native Americans and life she actually had. I loved Pocahontas, Aladdin, and Mulan as a kid, but once I grew up I realized they totally sugar coated / altered stuff they didn't need to. Idk, I will say that those movies definitely made me interested in other cultures, I just wish they were more accurate. I think Disney is headed in a better direction now at least (like Moana was pretty cute. SHINY.) Also I didn't see them being sexualized as a child because I was innocent, but I can see that now. I love seeing more color and culture coming to cartoons though. I love animation. I'm forever a child lmaoooo
Yes pocohontas was the worst because it was based on a real person. Like at the very least they could have used different names since making it historically accurate would not have been child friendly. But the morals of the story were good. When it comes to Aladdin since the setting is fictional I don't think historical accuracy is as important
I recently watched Aladdin, and I noticed in the first bit with Aladdin running away from the guards, he jumps through a window into a room where there appears to be a h*rem. All the women there are dressed basically exactly like Jasmine. That confused me a bit, as that doesn't make sense in any way, shape, or form.
They were female entertainers (prostitutes) lol. You can see that they treated Aladdin badly because he had been there before and they knew he was poor. They were dressed like that because their job probably required them to belly dance and such to attract attention and costumers, though then again, considering the region and era I'm not sure how much open and revealing even prostitutes could have been back then. 🤷🏻♀️
@@zoarium4289 youtube censorship is more likely than the word being offensive, like how people on tiktok will say shit like “unalive” and “real life game over” when discussing s/uicide so their videos don’t get flagged.
as a history and fashion nerd, i feel this so, *so* hard. but as an animator, im getting carpal tunnel just imagining drawing Belle's panniers during the dance sequence ahejdisks
They definitely should have done a green,purple, or seafoam dress. I mean even a mermaid style dress would have helped with her character. If they had done it historically accurate & had put more work into her dress they could have embodied her character a lot better than the dress they chose. I feel like the pink dress was a major flop
Aurora's neckline is probably angular because the team deliberately made her general design (and that of most characters) more angular/"pointy", to recall the style of stained glass windows and tapestries. Funny enough, this actually made a lot of people see her as less attractive than previous princesses, because "dollface" was in back then.
@@caIyps0 It's funny, because it's a much more common aesthetic nowadays - we are very much overly celebratory of skinniness, if anything. That said, having an angular jaw does make it easier to headcanon her as trans. A girl with strong shoulders and jaw, raised in the woods by three sweet old lesbians, classically dressed in pink and blue, who also goes by a flower name and mostly avoids her parents? You think we didn't notice, Disney?
I totally get what ur saying about Jasmine, but as an Arab women myself, I can tell u I most certainly wore shiny baggy pants like she did in the movie. they were tight on the ankles, and baggy on the legs. I never watched Aladdin as a kid but I can see where they got a couple aspects of the fashion, although I totally agree it is way over sexualized, and modernized. I think they did ok on the earrings though. I'm not middle eastern so ik the fashion is different there but there r definitely overlaps, and I feel as though the pants r one of them. (I'm Algerian)
Yes! The pants are definitely the most “accurate” aspect. I guess what I meant was that women living in the Arabian Peninsula in the 9th century would look considerably different from Jasmine haha. Thank you for your perspective 💜
@@gremlita What do you think about Jasmine other clothing in the movie. like the one she was wearing, when they were announcing her fiance Aladdin to her people.
@@frannyc7248 it's still not that accurate 😂 but at least they covered her waist lol, even when I was a child I felt weird watching Aladdin because Jasmine looked like a stripper 😱 so I didn't even complete it, tbh even as a child I felt offended and like they were mocking us by making her a stripper.
I think the main reason why she found the dress ugly was mainly because it didn't suit Ariel at all. Simply changing the color would've made a big difference.
Getting angry about every thing is not well educated. This comment section is plaqued by social justice warriors, and people always seeing themselves as the victim.
"Westernization does not equate to feminism." YES. Also let's let it sink in that Mel Gibson a)voiced John Smith and b)said "she's a babe." About a teenaged cartoon character. In other news: great vid, and way to acknowledge your biases!
@@kioku119 You have a good point. I thought a bit more, and I guess my main issue with Gibson's comment wasn't the age gap. It was his reduction of the character to a sexual object and nothing else. It's a sum-up of the character... w/o acknowledging any actual CHARACTER traits her appearance may reveal. Sigh. At least, according to Mina, that means the animators achieved the "sexy" look they were going for :/ I also thought his role of John Smith, the Misogynistic Colonizer, was very on the nose. Mel Gibson's behavior towards anyone NOT just like him is painful. I'm kinda morbidly fascinated with which public figures get "cancelled," for how long, and which get "forgiven." Check out his history of crappy life choices and worldviews: variety.com/2020/film/news/mel-gibson-controversies-career-1234696080/#article-comments
I give Cinderella a weird fee pass for her dress never seeming like it makes place in the time of her movie I think most adaptations of Cinderella don’t do that because she’s supposed to stand out and the dress is crafted from magic (in most versions)
Wasn’t Pocahontas a little girl in reality though? Shouldn’t that be a factor? I may be wrong and I’m open to being corrected. But I do know there are confusing versions of her history. But if she was actually a child, I think it’s a little gross that they sexualized her character so much. Even as an adult, but Disney did also change the original story of Cinderella drastically. It was originally a gory story.
disney's cinderella is based on the charles perrault's retelling of the story which is moderately tame compared to earlier versions most of the western fairytales are originally gory lol
Yeah she was about 13. Don't want to get into details too much as it's a very tragic story that may upset some, but she was sexualized in real life too.
Camryn Gaines Her name was actually Matoaka, but Pocahontas was her nickname. She was 10 when the colonists arrived. The only reason they coexisted(loosely using that word) for a few years was because they made the Powhatan become their allies against the Spanish. She was about 15 or 16 when they kidnapped her. She had a husband and child at that this point from her village. They murdered her husband after letting them see each other one last time, and she never saw her child again. She was constantly raped. John Rolfe only married her for tribal alliance and tobacco curing techniques. He forced her to bare his child, then took both of them to England. She was a show pony for the elite, to show there was no hostility between the natives and colonist(HA). Once convinced the colonists continued to get their financial support. She was in good health supposed to be getting ready to head home. She died shortly after eating dinner with her husband John Rolfe and Captain John Argall(also the captain that kidnapped her and multiple people from her tribe). She was only 21.
My idea for a more accurate Jasmine outfit but still marketable as the classic "Disney princess silhouette" ... keep the loose pants, give her a tunic or a jacket that is flared at the waist with a fitted top half (somewhat resembles the bodice and skirts of the previous princess icons). Puffed sleeves that reach her wrists. The gold headband could have a light veil attached to it. And please, a nicer colour.
This makes me wonder about when people in the future are gonna be like,”In that time era, skater skirts were particularly popular, being worn regularly with...”
Yes the sleeves are reminiscent of older asian fashions so (if that's what you were going for) I appreciate the asian representation and how you incorporate it into out fits!
If I remember correctly, Irene Bedard, the voice of Pocahontas, had spoken up to Disney about her appearance but was unfortunately unsuccessful in changing their minds.
I've seen so much Pocahontas concept art where she was dressed differently. I wouldn't be surprised if Irene Bedard was cast before the character design was completely finalized, and it's tragic that Disney wouldn't listen to one of the only contributors who was a Native American woman working on their movie about a Native American woman.
I’ve always thought Pocahontas had one of the most beautiful faces , her dress is cute fashion wise but once I think about historical accuracy. It’s ridiculous and overly sexualized for no reason. I never cared for the movie when I was younger, I’d literally fall asleep as soon as John Smith showed up. Maybe one day we can get new stories that don’t white wash.
Can you imagine how amazing Jasmine would have looked if Disney had animated her in traditional, historically accurate clothing? It would have been beautiful!!
I still love the way Jasmine looks in the movie, but seriously guys. If you think what they did to Jasmine was bad you should’ve seen what the animators were doing to Aladdin. His character design was so hated throughout the studio by the people in charge that they were willing to cancel the movie over it because they saw Jasmine and I quote as too beautiful to be with a guy like him and that you need to make his character design more attractive in order for the story to make Senseor else we’re shutting down
I much prefer the blue dress Ariel wears when she goes into town I don’t know how historically accurate it is but the colors and design fit way more with her red hair and personality and not to mention her behavior cause she is quite naive, bubbly, excited and is always ready to explore and having this toned more civilian dress just suits a lot more.
Even though Ariel's pink dress is horrible, it accurately reflects her character because she doesn't fit into the "human world" as well as the fact that she only had a small amount of time to get ready.
i remember i loved the we are all the same message but the movie is problematic considering the history of pocahontas that i really can’t watch it the same.
i absolutely loathe the portrayal of history, especially the ending. the way it's just like "the murderous colonizers and native people protecting themselves are conveyed as equally bad, and ultimately it was just one really bad guy and then the other colonizers just went home and everyone lived happily ever after the end"
I'm Arab and a feminist but I've hated (Yasmine) Jasmin so much in my childhood and honestly till now, she was supposed to represent us middle eastern girls but they sexualized her and chose a belly dancer clothes that are the opposite of my culture.
Honestly it's not even the opposite of culture they literally took the most sexualized part of the culture then bastardized it to fit Western ideals/views of Arabs or brown people. Imo it's not just belly dancer clothes, it's an idealized harem outfit. It's like they wanted to do "French couture" and they literally went to the STREETS and modeled the clothes after prostitutes. The disrespect is so infuriating.
bruh not even women in harem would wear something like this,,, why they couldn’t give her pre-islamic persian/arab dress if they’re so scared to give her hijab/veil
@My name is Dannye i mean, if they had one particular culture and not a mix of three different cultures, then it would be easy to say how she supposed to look like. in persia, arab caliphate and during the muslim rule in india in one particular century and year all this three countries had their own fashion.
@My name is Dannye firstly, im hindu, have you ever seen a picture of a hindu goddess? Obviously not, they wear sarees. Not belly tops. We know she’s not Hindu because the sultan mentions Allah, so they’re Muslim. As for your second comment, do about 2 minutes of research. If Aladdin took place in the 9th century then she would most definitely not be wearing that. Search up ‘9th century Indian clothes’ or ‘9th century Persian clothes’ it’s not accurate. Besides no one is saying that dressing like a belly dancer is wrong, but most muslims don’t wear such revealing clothing for religious reasons. Please do your research.
Depends. If it's in an Arab country, you should totally embrace your culture. If it's in the West, you should accept the taboos/rules/laws of the country that hosts you.
@@_blank-_ i'll embrace my culture no matter where I am thanks very much, if my culture breaks your taboos then that sounds like racism and xenophobia to me. Wish the west had the same attitude when it comes to invading and destroying our home countries.
When you say "does it hurt the story to make it more historically accurate" referring to the dress Belle is wearing, I totally understand what you mean because you clearly know about fashion, etc. But the thing is that when you are designing a character you have to make it "animatable", It's incredible hard and you have to think that 1 second of animation are 24 frames, 24 drawings. Imagining having to animate every detail hundreds of times. So they make dresses and clothes that they can animate, and that means having to simplify them even If they dont want to. Also, the characters (skin tones and clothes) have to contrast with the backgrounds (settings), because If not its going to make the color pallete in general look really "similar" and nothing would stand out. That's why Snow white dress have those colors, to make her pop off the screen. I study animation so I just wanted to explain/tell these things. Everyone analyze something from their field of expertise.
Absolutely. 100%. Animation is extremely intensive. And I just have to tolerate the Disney Princess™️ brand dresses. It’s like most of them wore a similar dress in the film so it’s hard to market it.
Maybe they could at least make a good dress for like a short? Like a little dance short where belle wears a historical dress. They make the dress cool for the dolls at least
you really did your researches and put a lot of effort in the video, thank you for respecting the Arabic culture and the way we are dressed and not offending us the way other people do. "westernization do not equate to feminisms"
I remember in 1st-2nd grade I dressed up as Jasmine for Halloween and it was a two piece. My mom wanted me to wear a white shirt underneath, but I didn't want to because it would "ruin the costume" or something. Now that I'm 16, I understand why she wanted me to. I understand that for marketing or whatever, Jasmine was a popular character, but WHY would you sell two pieces to young children?
I mean really, who’s idea was it to put Ariel - this pale white girl with fire-engine red hair - in a blush pink dress? That combination doesn’t even sound good on paper, much less look good on screen.
There's a sort of short movie where Jasmine and Aladdin go to another kingdom, and the young prince is so spoiled he's not letting them out the palace and Jasmine keeps telling him stories while Aladdin tries to find a way out.
I have a goth non binary buddy that looks pretty sick nasty with their thin line brows/lighting ziggys/ random shapes lol!! They have a super cool aesthetic I could never pull off. Some people can pull of anything and I'm jelly 😂
True. But people often misuse this word: Jasmine was not westernized, not her features nor her clothes or the place she lives in. Same for Mulan. Actually, most Disney princesses were not westernized. I'm still waiting for an African princess (well, more sub-Saharan one, than Egyptian or Moroccan since both of these countries already have a huge worldwide exposure in pop culture). Because Princess & the Frog was more Black-Americans. Imagine a Kenyan princess.
0:00 Introduction & Disclaimers 1:10 Snow White & The Seven Dwarves (Snow White) 6:20 Cinderella 9:36 Sleeping Beauty (Aurora) 12:44 The Little Mermaid (Ariel) 15:41 Beauty and the Beast (Belle) 18:04 Aladdin (Jasmine) 22:34 Pocahontas 21:39 I call them “shalwar”
I hated Jasmine's clothing, honestly. As a muslim woman when I found out she was meant to be muslim it left a sour taste in my mouth.. not to mention her clothing didn't scream "princess" at all. Hell they didn't even do anything that showed arabian ties with the textiles which is a huge part or arabian clothing. No patterns, even the colour seemed off and they wouldn't even give her a little beaded see through veil? I also just don't like how sexualised she was
Yeah i agree, but i think the thing that got most on my nerves was the fact that Jasmine's clothing (and everyone else's clothing) looked more South Asian/Indian. The story takes place in the Middle East, yet their clothing look nothing Middle Eastern!??
Well when I was a kid, I just thought she was middle eastern so I identified with her (Maltese) and I loved she was sassy and a bit more sexy. I loved it,
As I kid I was like “Jasmines weird lol” or “wears tHe ClOtheS” Now I get what my ‘kid self’ meant- I think I tried to say revealing but course I didn’t know what that was, but ye that’s my story-
My mother's family is Eastern Band of Cherokee and my father's family is Persian and so I greatly appreciated the Jasmine and Pochahontas sections of this video so much. With the amount of vagueness in the Aladin story, I don't understand why they couldn't have copied some of the really fabulous Turkish and Persian clothing from the 16th to 18th century and had to revert to belly dancer tropes. Also if you're ever looking for information on Native American clothing check out the complete works of Edward S Curtiss, who was a 19th-century photographer that self-funded anthropological expeditions to document the traditional clothing and practice of Native Americans. They are quite spectacular.
not very. Aurora is wearing her corset, which wouldn't be a thing until the 1800s, on the outside. It's kind of like wearing a bra over a t shirt. Also they're both showing their ankles.
I completely agree with all of these, but I also think that the animators decided to make the designs more simple because the ruffles and the details would be too difficult to animate, and the historically accurate outfits wouldn't exactly appeal to children
Even cartoons or animation that take place in modern day are simplistic in the characters' clothing. Look at Phineas and Ferb. They wear the same outfits every episode. It's purely an animating issue. No one's going to watch Beauty and the Beast and think, "Aw, so that's what life was like before the French Revolution," because talking plates give it away. No one's looking to these movies for historical accuracy save Pocahontas and maybe Tiana and Mulan. For most of the princesses they aren't meant to be in a specific year or time period. They're in a made-up world where some can talk to animals or people can use magic.
I'd say it will appeal to children of the same culture (while educating others) cause kids love to relate and see themselves, it's normal, and seeing their culture worn by a princess or prince is exciting for them!
Why is it not appealing to children? Children love facts about history? And an iconic historically accurate fashion silhouette like that would be new to them but that's why it would be exciting. Adults tend to just assume children are boring and their feeble minds are incapable of finding appeal in a dress that's a different shape. It's arbitrary nonsense.
It’s 💯 true they’re the most sexualised, although I think some of Ariel’s ‘poses’ are too; Usually when she’s coming out of the water, tilting her head, looking up from under her lashes, thrusting herself chest first... typical of Disney to sexualise children’s content
@@hsonmari6665 I feel like theres very few selection of poses to do as a mermaid lol. It's kind of like a seal pose. I don't see the sexuality in her having lashes and sitting like that etc.
About the snow white girdle thing, we can actually look at the original fairytale for that. The stepmother actually made 3 attempts to kill snow, the first one with a "Schnürriemen" which seems to be basically a girdle or bodice. The stepmom laced it so tight that snow couldn't breathe and fainted. She was saved by the dwarves cutting it open
being middle eastern, Jasmine has always been my favorite Disney princess. however, her outfit is very inaccurate. it’s hella disrespectful that Disney thinks it’s okay to modify our culture/s to fit their westernized/sexually appealing fantasies about middle eastern women. :/
Actually outside of things such as Pocahontas Disney does a lot of extensive research about certain cultures and there were several character designs for Jasmine that were very modest and unique that they were choosing from. They decided to go with the one you see in the movie because like she mentioned in the video they wanted a more 90s look because they were trying to make Aladdin a modern retelling of the original 1001 Arabian nights and the reason why they combine multiple cultures is because they just like certain things about some cultures like certain things about others and want to make it. This unique mishmash artist do it all the time barring from other cultures to combine the main reason why ag had to become a thing rather than a specific countryis because something had happened during that time. Period and they didn’t want to offend Arab people by depicting an actual.place that was going through hardship so they decided that at that point they could just do whatever they want as long as they didn’t actually use anything too specific
Also, another reason for Jasmine‘s appearance is the animator who worked on her had worked on several Disney princesses, and overall he was sick of the designs he was doing and wanted to experiment and thought that Jasmine deserved something more modern and unique at least in his opinion and that he didn’t want to dress her like all the other Disney princesses because he thought it would be Boring and wanted her to be a new fresh type of princess the studio May be racist, but the actual people that put their blood sweat and tears into the movie or just ordinary people trying to do their best that make a lot of mistakes
Idk, I to me Cinderella’s dress looks a lot like a 1950s spin on 1850s fashion. Like the big poofy skirt and the poofy sleeves with a more open neckline seem very early-mid 1800s inspired to me. Even down to the fact that she is wearing gloves.
I love how you don’t just look at the style bc of style you explain why it is that style and how it affects people, society and cultures. This is the most well rounded, thought through princess review I have ever seen. You looked at each one through multiple perspectives. Love it! ❤️
In part 2 I will love to see you rant Anastasia's dress from the movie Anastasia from fox animation studios ( Disney bought fox animation studios so she's technically a Disney princess) btw this movie is supposed to take place in 1926 in Russia
i loved your segment on Pocahontas. i myself am native american (ojibwe) and have been told countless times "you look like Pocahontas" which has always rubbed me the wrong way. if you ever wanted to learn more about our clothing you should look into it! for me i personally love ribbon skirts and beading my own earrings ☺️
@@nimkii-d5d but many cultures deal with that type of image. When someone comes to germany (where I'm from.) Many americans expect us to wear lederhosen or dirndl. Or in now more modern days they thing most of us walk around in adidas suits. I got to hear "You don't look german" numerous times from americans. Those things are always images created by movies/social media and stuff.
fun fact you prob don't know: My piano teacher was the second choice for the voice of Pocahauntas.(sorry Idk how to spell it) Dawn Smith Jordan. She told me she's glad she turned it down because of the hate the movie received. Also as an indigenous woman it means a lot how you bring the sexual violence to the surface.
about the ariel dress: correct me if i’m wrong but wasn’t the point of the dress used to represent that ariel DOESN’T belong? idk i’ve always seen it as symbolic about how it’s not her natural environment, thus wearing conflicting colors/clothes.
There are so many comments on this, Ik that she probably didn’t research it but gosh- I’m pretty sure she’s gotten the hint- also some of you need to be more nice with what you’re putting out there-
•*PeachyxxJelly*• what? I mean I get your first point but what they said isn’t rude at all or not nice. They just stated simply what they thought. Or are you talking about something else?
Sleeping Beauty is however based on the French version by Perrault, so it would be France, I believe. Rapunzel is German. Not Italian, not French, not Polish, not Hungarian. I have seen many people say those. But this video is great anyway.
Rapunzel and Snow White are definitely german. Sleeping Beauty takes place at a castle that literally looks like Schloss Neuschwanstein in Bavaria Germany.
With stories this old it’s actually SO difficult to place exactly where they came from without very deep research! These stories have been passed around many cultures for many years! So to place them with any 100% certainty somewhere specific is a really difficult goal! Anyways all that to say, there’s much discourse about where these stories actually originate, so depending on which version you read it can really change ones opinion on historical accuracy. Nobody is technically wrong to say any of those things, so long as they are referencing a version congruent to what they are saying. ex. A rapunzel story recorded from Italy/France/Poland/Hungary. But that’s just my opinion and I know I tend to be less of a stickler for historical details, like so.
Loved you disclaimer that we shouldn’t necessarily be sticklers for historical accuracy at the beginning, I don’t get people who call the Disney princess dresses bad because they aren’t historically accurate, like that is very much not the point (although it is fun to talk about)
your videos may not cure my depression but they sure make it easier to deal with. you give me faith in humanity and i learn a lot more from you than i do in most of my classes (and i'm majoring in philosophy). the fact that you rate based on historical accuracy not only shows that you really care about what you're doing professionally (as in, you gathered and researched all the info you could) but you also educate yourself in the issues and implications of all of this and you make a point to mention them and give facts about it and i love that honestly it feels amazing to know someone cares enough to do the research and learning about opressed people through opresses people's voices is, in my opinion, the best way to do it. anyway i sound like a white girl trying to praise herself but truly this video made me so happy thanks
This was amazing. As a Diné woman, I truly and deeply appreciate you addressing the issues around Pocahontas and that indigenous womxn still face high rates of abuse and murder. ❣️
Cool video! I'm glad to see you bring up the fact that Jasmine and Pocahontas are both much more sexualized than their peers. They are both actually my favorite princesses but I can't deny the problematic issues with their designs and how they are portrayed in their films. Although Disney seemed to portray their women of color in a pretty sexualized manner in the 90's and early 2000's. See also Esmeralda, Kida and Nani.
Jeremy Jones bruh what are you onnnnn? I'm native we do have traditional clothing that use leather and animal fur and stuff every culture has clothes you understand right?
Nani wasn’t sexualized though? Like at all? Yeah she wears crop tops and has cleavage, but all the other Disney princesses in their dresses show cleavage too, and she lives in warm Hawaii. Even her swimsuit isn’t that revealing. The only time she was sexualized was when she was working in the luau restaurant, and the movie even calls out that it’s touristy and inaccurate. Disney definitely has sexualized it’s women of color (cough Esmeralda), but Nani isn’t sexualized.
Also Jasmine's outfit is completely inaccurate to the climate. There is a reason why in hot dessert climates and even hot humid climates like those in India and the Arabian peninsula people wear loose clothing that covers a lot of their body. My girl jasmine would be extremely sunburnt.
Exactly!!!
Also, thank you for mentioning how it is *loose*.
I hate how disney made her (as well as other princesses ofc) have the perfect bodies. Because they made her waist very small with wide hips,while also being really slim(smh) they made me as well as countless other young girls feel a little self conscious of their already perfect and healthy bodies. I remember how I used to try and pinch my waist by tying a belt as best as I could or else I would'nt look like a princess. I realized just how bad disney is and how much of an impact it can have on little children.
Its made more aware bcoz they basically showed a lot of skin in jasmine and ariel( and others too ig).
Also, Jasmine's story was set in the arabian peninsula. This means that the weather is extremely hot and sunny, so you can get reallllly bad sunburn(I was brought up in an arabian country so Im telling yall coz kf experience). And also the fact that they made her clothes so "revealing" was disgusting bcoz in arab( and islamic culture), we are required to cover ourselves modestly, which means, we're supposed to wear loose and airy clothes.
Basically, as much as they want their new princess to be a BIGHIT and get reallllly wealthy, they shoukd keep in mind abt how much they should consider the historical accuracy as well as the cultures of whatever new princess theyre making.
Feel free to correct me politely if Im wrong anywhere and what yall can add to this as well
You're right. Although in a lot of parts in India especially the south women mostly are free to show their waists and arms
Right I live in England and a lot of Muslims live here and weark burkas etc and when its hot some people say how arent they sweating under there or when its cold why aren't they freezing under there? But whats amazing about those clothing is that when its hot you stay cool underneath and when its cold you stay warm. Its so fascinating
YESS, I'm Persian and whenever I go to visit Iran and some of the desserts there everyone is covered bc of the sun.
The only excuse I can think of for making Belle’s dress less historically accurate would be to make it simpler for the animators to draw. Rococo is a gorgeous style, but thinking about drawing each ruffle in each frame is already giving me a hand cramp, haha
Also, as the ballroom scene/dance was such a huge thing, I think they needed a dress with much more graceful 'twirl' in it than a gown with huge paniers could ever manage. Is there any little girl ever who didn't enjoy a dress with a good twirl? And they wisely left off the nasty curled and powdered wig that a noble of that era would have been wearing too.
I was pleased to see, though, that in the 2017 remake of Beauty and the Beast, they did more of a nod to accuracy in the prince's original pre-curse outfit and wig...plus, it hid his appearance nicely, so when he was transformed back to human, his handsome looks were a nice surprise to the viewer.
@@j.d.e.7416 YEP literally me as a kid I loved wearing skirts that twirl (still do, theyr'e epic)
The version they went with might also be easier to produce for dolls than a rococco-dress.
Personally I think it had to do more with marketing. It would be a lot harder to make and sell a rococo style dress for little girls to wear/to put on dolls, than the dress that they actually ended up putting belle in.
eh yeah but then in the movie they failed
As an indigenous canadian, I really appreciate the moment you took to explain the sexual violence against native woman. I really wasn't expecting it, but it was a nice surprise.
same
I’m an indigenous American and I have to agree with you it was amazing that she took the time to explain sexual violence against native women because it happens everyday on reservations but no one talks about it
Nice?
Echo that!!! Seneca femme here, so grateful for the recognition to our sisterly plight.
Unrelated note, I love *your* huge, floofy pink sleeves! 🖤
@Kamryn Pierre 💜💜
Honestly, Jasmine is such a opportunity loss. Imagine her wearing the actual amazing costumes and ornaments.
Esmeraldas dress is also terrible.
She is basically wearing her "underwear", I read the book and it was never written that she was wearing such revealing clothes.
@@konanxhidan3202 wdym?she just has a dress.
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I'm talking about the corset also the red dress as well which is to revealing.
I don't understand why Esmeralda always got sexualized, she didn't worse such clothes in the book.
@@konanxhidan3202 Oh, I mean most of the princess had dresses like Esmeralda. I never found it sexual or anything. But the dress was meant to be like that for the story of the film bc Frollo supposed to lust.
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I love Disney Esmeralda, she was always my favourite character and I also like her body type but she was too sexualized !
Her dresses were too revealing especially the red one (similar to Jasmines red slave outfit), she is to much portrayed as the *exotic sexy rebellious brown girl* but in the novell Esmeralda was actually a shy, virtuous and a very innocent girl.
Just look at her dance, it was basically a pole dance.
Frollo wasn't only interested on Esmeralda because she was hot, he was also fascinated by her innocent, pure and kind personality. Except for being nice Disney Esmeralda is NOT portrayed like that simply because to make her more "independent".
The same problem is with Jasmine, instead of wearing graceful modest clothes, she is dressed like a prostitute. Remember the three prostitutes in Aladdin ? They were all dressed like Jasmine, a royal princess.
I always thought Ariel's pink dress symbolized her not fitting into human society and that's why it didn't suit her at all.
It is- and that’s why I hate and love it
Love because it’s pretty just on its own and it fits Ariel as a character she becomes human
Hate how it looks on her tho- that pink and that red ain’t working with each other
That's such an interesting take on it and I must agree! It highlights how out of place she was among the humans then.
How is it possible that Disney's brilliant artists would make such a clash unintentionally? Her red hair went beautifully with her green eyes and tail as a complementary colour scheme.
On the contrary, the pink dress made her almost monochromatic and less dynamic.
agree :D would also add that i personally thought her dress was pink to symbolize childlike purity of her love + her newness to the human world
Green and red is so overdone and stale to me. The instinct is to dislike a pink & red color combo but it’s actually grown on me a lot throughout life and now I love it. Besides ariels dress is totally adorable
HAHA YE THATS SO SMART ✨
They didnt have to do jasmine like that - literally her dress is nothing like what it should have been and they combined so many different cultures into one and said yep that's what you're all getting. Like arabian and indian and other cultures are so so different, they're just too lazy to give us all some good representation.
So true. They see all us all as homogenous, just combined south Asian and Middle Eastern... like her tiger being called Raja LOL
They put an Arab princess in a belly dancer’s outfit. It was a show of disrespect, fetishizing and sexualizing Arab women who have always been known to be modest and conservative.
@@fatoumfatoumeh absolutely, its awful. Adding to the sexualised stereotypes for ""exotic"" women.
Yupp orientalism it's gross and racist.
Does scenes have always made me uncomfortable, but you guys aren’t the only brown people. I’m brown and Hispanic.
The problem with making the dresses historically accurate is that they have too many details, it would be hell to animate them by hand. But i do agree that there where some shapes and colours they could have changed (especially Jasmine's).
Yea definitely but at the same time, you can still do detailed animations eithout making them too detailed. Like simplifying thise details. Trims can just be one colour with some lines or beads can just be made into shapes or little textures.
lol its not about details. the peasant clothes worn by jasmine is way way more accurate than her blue belly dancer costume
I don't blame them for making the dresses simpler and more appealing, but sexualization of the cultural dresses and clothing is very irritating. And the fact they changed Bells dress. The concept art was gorgeous, and not much more detailed than the final product. The dresses are artistic expressions, not made to be accurate, but drive the visual story telling. As the said, accuracy isn't the top priority, considering theirs magic, witches, and other fantasy elements.
The problem is, keeping any detail consistent is a lot of work. Sure making some trim seems easy but you have to make it flow with the rest of the dress in a 3d space. Same with any small bead. You have to keep it consistent within a 3d space. Costs way too much money for something so insignificant
Bree W Animation student here to back this up. To give you an idea, I worked on a 30 second animation that was full coloured and included a more simplified version of a victorian coat. That alone took me about 4 weeks to finish. 3 seconds can take an animator anywhere between a few hours to an entire day depending on how fluid the movement it. Disney strives for very fluid animation where the characters move alot. To animate even really small details at disneys fluidity, on disneys budget at the time, with the amount if staff disney had at the time and the traditional disney framing techniques would be hell!
I agree that sexualising a culture is wrong! That’s a given, and adding more fabric and layers in areas for accuracy would be fine. But as for decorative details, nah bro, even back in the 90’s it would be be complicated and it would probably result in staff being underpaid for extra work and unfair outsourcing (something I don’t doubt disney don’t already do oof)
As an indigenous woman Thankyou for talking about the sexual abuse rates that we suffer from. It’s not talked about as much as it should be
I'm very sorry to hear about that. Whenever I watch true crime or things talking about history that hasn't been revised I'm shocked and disgusted how poorly treated y'all get. It's not fair, you guys are human beings, not some "weird savages" that history tries to paint every indigenous individual as. I don't mean to come off offensive in my wording, I apologize if I have. I don't even want to think about what it's like for indigenous folks who are a part of the LGBTQIA+ community... This is why I hate America. And I live here. It suuuuuuucks.
Miss, i’ve never seen ANYBODY pull off those extremely thin (literally non-existent) pencil brows like you do and i’m shook 👁👄👁
ikr usually they fugly but something about her face.. maybe how they arent like dark black? anyways 10/10
I'm getting heavy 1920's vibes from them and I adore it!
I've seen lots of attractive ppl with them, I love seeing different types of eyebrows and it really goes with her aesthetic^-^
She's like.....otherworldly beauty lol 😂💞
Yeah I've only seen people with mono lids be able to pull it off ( I think that is what she has)
The reason for the pink vs. blue debate in Sleeping Beauty is because at the time blue was changing from a girl's color to a boy's color and pink visa versa. For Dorothy, Wendy, and Alice their dresses were blue because back then blue was still a girl's color because it was associated with the virgin Mary.
wow thats so interesting
I thought it was because Cinderella’s dress was blue so they had to change it. This makes sense too I guess
my understanding is that the switch from blue being a girl color and pink being a boy color etc is that it happened around WWII. has it happened multiple times in history?
@@stellarae8257 From my understanding, not really. But for most of history, pink wasn’t a super popular colour because it was just faded red dye and a rich blue colour was expensive to produce. (Until the invention of unique indigo dyes that led to the invention of the blue jean) That’s where the association of the Virgin Mary wearing blue comes from- and Jesus would often be depicted in pink. Pink paint is much more expensive then pink fabric because it’s not just a faded red, it has to be specifically mixed out of red and white paints. I think the use in renaissance and post-renaissance art allowed pink to become a colour in fashion, where it was used mainly for men because it was still highly associated with red and baby Jesus, but evidence of this is based on *paintings* so it’s kind of a self-contradicting topic. Anyways, no, it’s unlikely any switch between blue and pink’s gender-specific colour identity ever happened before the WWII era, because they didn’t really have those strong associations to most people. Just rich peoplez
Wow interesting, that's good to know because my favorite color is blue and I always thought it was mainly a boys color, I know it's a girls color too but I love your comment
*Mina* : “I can’t think of another animated character with a red blue and yellow color scheme”
*Donald Duck has left the Chat*
Donald being lefted in the colour scheme shadows behind snow white is a mood
Pinocchio too lol
Donald just put a big fat F in the chat😂😂
superman has also left
A lot of nintendo characters
I love this video!
Jasmine and Pocahontas styles are basically the réflexion of how occidental men see "exotical" women. Thats was just them expressing their fantasies. They never had thé intention to make some historical/cultural accuracies.
Definetly agree with the fact that Ariel's dress color was an awful choice. They could have chose turquoise or green it would work for her. And the glitter dress was Amazing i would love Disney to give it more lights, they could have work more on the structure détails of the dress (bottom and waist) it looks like the dress isnt finished yet.
Also, I've been saying this forever but Aurora's dresses definetly needed to have more Shades of blue and/or pink in it. It would look way better.
About belles dress i've just Always hated the whole style, not only talking about the dress but the hairstyle is... Meh
Okay about the dress color, ariel got her dress from Eric, it's most likely that they had a pink dress laying around rather than a mint green one, also in a lot of her artwork she's shown in a seafoam green dress
I saw a comment about the pink dress coming off as her being “a literal fish out of water”
Well Disney was originally based on White European culture. PoC demanded to be included because "cultural appropriation" is a one way street steeped in double standards and hypocrisy. To be honest, I'd rather Disney had stayed White. It was better before PoC ruined it.
@@vikingsong2068 Was that supposed to be intentionally racist? Not being rude but just a general question because the last sentence makes the comment look bad in my opinion.
@@vikingsong2068 How about you educate yourself, and stop bombarding other cultures. Sorry that POC are upset about their culture being sexulized, fantasized and misrepresented. Not their fault diseny cant simply eduacte themselves, and be respectful. Sounds more like a you problem than anything.
As someone who is close to my native American ancestry, the movie Pocahontas makes me sick. They literally romanticized a sad story of a CHILD and left out all the icky things and made her older to be more "appealing" like wtf a story like hers shouldn't be changed just to be shared and spread misinformation about how Native Americans were REALLY treated.
i’m not a native american but i’ve always found the movie sick it felt like it was mocking of your culture and they were romanticizing a guy how came slaughtered people and stole land it’s disgusting
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Blame the book its based off.
@@A_Strawberry doesn't mean they had to make a movie off of it..
They made a sequel which shows her with her husband that's just as gross
And! Notice how none of the “non exotic” outfits are super sexualized but jasmines and pocahontas’s are??
It's because of when the movies were made. Unfortunately, those movies, despite to a degree not seeming like it, are both sexist and racist. But back then it was the norm. I like The Princess And The Frog because it's not like that.
Edit: I like The Princess And The Frog because it doesn't have a sexualised main female character. Also, frogs are god, don't diss the frog
@@edwarddrake8992 yea, instead of a black princess, we get a frog :/
@@maya4237 atleast they put in a tiny bit of effort, Hispanics don't have a legit disney princess. Sure we have disney tv shows but we don't have a real Disney movie princess which is stupid.
jizzypuff we can argue the meaning of effort but fr we need a Latina queen no shade towards Elena and Sophia
@@maya4237 oh yeah I'm not trying to argue about the amount of effort they put in. Although tiana is beautiful, they are doing women of color dirty. My five year old daughter loves Elena of avalor but there is no legit disney movie princess that she relates to (although Moana is her favorite out of all of them)
alternative title: snow white drags every disney princess (including herself)
Ps: Also steals Ariels dress and proceeds to drag it too
I don't like Pocahontas because it is romanticizing a 10 year old girl who went through horrible stuff.
@@hyungeum2907 i didnt mention pocahontas
@@LUNARIANADeluxe I think they replied to the wrong comment. It happens to me all the time xD
@@hyungeum2907 She wasn't ten years old she was actually 15 but go off I guess .-.
I never understood dresses with trains (including modern ones). They just end up sweeping every place they go to and get really dirt really quick :/
im pretty sure back in the day rich women had servants to carry their long trains so it was like a status/wealth thing but now trains seem dumb to have
Fun fact! Historically dresses with trains would have a "dust ruffle", a ruffled bit of sturdy, cheaper fabric under the train that kept the more expensive fabric off the floor and away from dirt. It would be just tacked into place, so that it could be easily removed and replaced for washing or once it got worn out.
@@e.s.r5809 That's very interesting! I didn't know that, thanks you!
They're also usually worn indoors, likely on costly rugs and well maintained floors. Mainly because women, especially of a higher status, tend to stay indoors which also gives preference to fair complexion as opposed to the tans you'd get from toiling under the sun in the fields. And even then, I believe that super long train weren't exactly worn 24/7 because those kinds of gowns were typically reserved for special occasions, like a wedding or ball.
Depends where you wear it to
As an artist who has dabbled in animation, it takes a lot of time to draw ruffles and little bits of detail in a dress. Most of the animation studios make the necessary decision to remove details that would take too much time and money to add.
Finally someone said it!
Agreed. The princess dresses all have easy animation features in common. They have a limited color palette, have broad areas of color, simplified shapes and distinct silhouettes.
This is a very underrated comment!!!!
This!!!
also i think that since the renaissance era there was set an ideal silouette for the commercialization of the dresses (colors, estructure/shape), so making these super elaborated details would have not been such a success in the eyes of little kids who judge what they want by just the visualization of it.
The whole point of Ariel’s pink dress is that it’s *NOT* hers. It was literally a borrowed dress that they had at the castle and put her in because she didn’t have anything to wear. She was a (literal) fish out of water and it showed that perfectly. It wasn’t really meant to look good on her. Pretty dress and pretty girl but they weren’t meant for each other.
Yeah, this is why Disney shouldn't have used it for her marketing.
YESS thank you.
Well it WAS meant to look good on her, this is Disney they'd never be so brave as to intentionally have one of their heroines look 'ugly' in something. But I do get your point and I agree, the dress wasn't made (in the movie) for her, but still would've been nice if the marketing team had caught on to that and put her toys in green sooner. But better late than never I suppose.
Furthermore, the pink color of her dress is a good way to show her love for Eric and the idealization of a life out of the water, something romantic for her.
Raisins and Capers thats why they changed it to the emerald color to compliment her red hair. now face chacters at disney that play her wear the emerald dress
This was an awesome analysis! 🤩✨
Thanks so much Bernadette! ❤️
Right!!
The only problem is that she didn't realize that they would have to remove some elements to make the animation easier and more realistic
As an Arab woman myself, Jasmine’s dress is very upsetting. They could have made her wear slightly loose drapes (wouldn’t be too upsetting if it is slightly cinched at the waste since they love that) with a sheer veil or something. It would still look veeery pretty. Most Disney princesses wore modestly and still looked nice.
Arab women even prior to Islam wore very modestly even with veils.. so I don’t get why they had her dress like a belly dancer ?? No princess at that time would ever wear like that. You wouldn’t see a European princess wear something like that would you??
And what upsets me mostly is how they smashed two cultures together? Like both cultures are individually very rich and could have focused only on one and still had so much substance to work with. It is disrespectful to mix both. Do westerns see us and south asians all the same???
I'm pakistani (so south asian) and from what I've seen... yes, yes westerners seem to think our cultures are the same despite being very, very different.
@@eidolonicentipede I am wondering if you can tell the différences between the different regions of the « Western World » too
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It always seems more diversified in your own region, isn’t it ? 😉
And if you know that even among western european countries, the culture is very different... and even among a single country which can be 5 times smaller than India😅😅
I am French, not a very large country, and there is huge cultural, architectural, cooking differences between regions, and so I am perfectly aware that between the so large Asian continent, there are A LOT of cultural differences
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH but every westerner don’t speak the same language (≈ 40 dialects in France 3 generations ago... before the WW1, the majority of French people didn’t know how to speak French! The « westerners » cannot be seen as previous colonialists considering that 95% of the population (at least in France) was made of peasants )
So, well, speaking about how westerners think doesn’t make more sense than speaking about how « Asians » think, like if they were all thinking or knowing the same thing with such cultural and gerographical distance between them
@@clips_a_la_menthe Ah, sorry, I should havs said "americans"
sorry for using the wrong word, english isnt my first language either.
In any case, I'm sorry for offending you. I really just meant americans,, and again not all of them just a large percentage.
How is that disrespectful? that's just a fictional movie, i'm pretty sure if that movie was set in one country only people would still find a way to criticize.
I’m agree with you 100%
The simple answer to why Disney didn't care about historical accuracy in many of their character designs: all those ruffles and folds and details and accessories would be a PAIN to animate.
Not to mention its for children and they honestly couldn't give 5 shits
And less popular for modern audiences plus they would probably date as dresses for young girls.
Also marketing. They need to sell toys and shit
They should've put Ariel in lavender you can't change my mind
Well they give it to her in second movie
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Shes also wearing lavender coming out of the water at the end I think
Seafoam green. Would have completely her hair and eyes as well as pay homage to her connection to the ocean.
I would just take her tail/shell colors and make them a dress.
The reason why the dresses aren’t more historically accurate is because they have to animate it all, if they put tons of ruffles on the dress they’d be drawing those ruffles about a million more times, slowing down the process.
Also they are marketing to children so these dresses have to be made into toys and intricate dresses are more expensive to produce than simpler ones.
No excuse for not having an accurate silhouette
@@jennas9033 yup for jasmine, its probaly the worse one yet. I loved the idea but it was just sooooo inaccurate
@@jennas9033 I fail to see how she's sexualized... Maybe in the US, showing a little bit of belly is sexual but that sounds weird to me. I mean, Ariel is literally half-naked for most of the Little Mermaid.
I think she knows that, she’s probably just pointing out what they would actually look like but I think she knows it would be hard for Disney to do that
Let me just add that silhouettes are an incredibly important step of designing an animated character, so that should’ve been the first thing on their minds
@@_blank-_ Ariel is a mermaid, Jasmine is a human arab princess, and one of the most preserved ideology that we have in our culture is Modesty. No arab princess in history has ever wore that. Belly dance customes are made for belly dancers and it doesn’t show just a little belly..... her whole legs, chest n back . Its this the presentation that little arab girls r supposed to have bout our history n how the westerns view us.
I think it's funny how Disney took the German originals and just made everything so sparkly sparkly rainbow unicorn glitter sugary, when in the originals it was more bloody bloody bloodily bloody.
@@hemnamusunur6088 the originals were made for children too. We hear them as bedtime stories here, if we don't wanna hear about ppl whose thumbs get cut off, guys who starve bc they don't like soup or the girl who set herself on fire ofc.
@@hemnamusunur6088 yeah ik, it kinda has an educational value, at least it's supposed to. But i get your point
@@confusedpotato5017 maybe kids back then we’re hard as nails or something. I know for the Inuit, storytelling was extremely beneficial for their children [it probably wasn’t bloody though]. For me, I like sparkles. I like the look of glamourised synthetic things.
Yeah, I've read a few of the classics in my German classes, and let me tell you the brothers Grimm lived up to their names... yiikkes
In the german versions everyone got their eyes gauged out. Like every story had a person loose their eyes. Very bloody
Honestly thank you so much for speaking about Jasmine's outfit the way you did. As a muslim, Arab woman it really bugged me how inaccurate disney made Jasmine. They had no idea what they were doing, or maybe they just didn't care idk.. I love the line "westernization does not equate feminism". You summed it up perfectly.
Same. I’m Algerian, if you consider that Arab, and I remember being a little girl and being kinda disappointed at her outfit. I was so excited to see a movie depicting something similar to my culture, and possibly a Muslim princess. I was confused when I saw her cause I’d assumed she would be Muslim but her outfit was very wrong, I thought she would be wearing a hijab, or at least some kind of veil. Instead she came out looking more like a belly dancer than a princess.
@@someone-wk2wj EXACTLY!! THIS! She looks exactly like a belly dancer! Which is terrible they're basically sexualising and fetishising "exotic" people. The most sexualised princesses are Jasmine and Pocahontas, the first 2 colored "exotic" princesses... It seriously sucks, especially when our culture is the literal opposite of this.
I am Arab too and I do not mind Disney westernizing her to market to a more western audience, I mean we did have Fulla. However, them modelling her after a belly dancer and the scene where she seduces Jaafar did not sit well with me.
@@judesulieman2245 who’s Fulla?
@@judesulieman2245 Nope. Westernisation = white washing = not okay. Representation matters. Whether that's african american, native americans, central asians, east asians, africans, latinas or arabs. Representation matters. Every race's beauty is unique, and they shouldn't have to westernise their features to say "this race is beautiful but their fearures are not; so we'll westernise them so they look more appealing to western people, because their features are not beautiful enough". They should either do it right, or not touch it at all. It is precisely this issue that caused terrible problems with beauty standards for african americans that they are facing to this day!!! The only ones people deem "pretty" and hype up are ones with Caucasian features (small upturned nose, curly but not kinky hair, light skin and colored eyes). This isn't representation, it's fetishising minorities to make them fit the western ideal. Fulla was made by arabs for arabs, Disney is Disney. Disney is something else, Disney is our childhood. It's unacceptable that an underage arabian princess is dressed like a belly dancer throughout the whole movie. It sends the wrong message. Jasmine was already a feminist in the way she thinks, that she isnt property, she isnt a prize to be won. She didn't have to be dressed like that.
It was eye opening to see how much the two brown princesses' culture were distorted
@@hanit279 yeah. if ur skin is brown. Like i'm native american and i'm technically a person of colour but my skin is pretty light so i'm not really "brown."
I think a Moana was done better.
What does brown mean? Is it a new term to say swarthy or tanned ?
@@jennas9033 Thanks! We have no corresponding expression in French
@@clips_a_la_menthe The world isn't just black and white
I’m not Native American, but Native Brazilian, and growing up I had zero role models or representation of my people. Pocahontas was the closest thing I had. It sucks how she was designed with the white male gaze in mind, but at the time just seeing a girl who looked like me was so amazing. My feelings on are a lot more bittersweet now that I’ve grown older and learned more about the situation. I really love how you discuss these issues, it’s so important to being awareness to these things!
Pior que é bem isso. Ou o Brasil não é representado, ou é representado de maneira péssima.
My take is not to beat ourselves too hard.
These movies were products of their time with their shortcomings and problems.
They also introduced millions of kids like you and me to characters that were not pasty-white. They told us that we could be heroes too.
While it's important to be aware of their flaws and to look for authenticity, we shouldn't go all the way around and throw stones at them. It just means that it's time for us to write our own stories.
Me irrita muito que toda/qualquer representação de países sul americanos e centro americanos, é mostrado como algo mais amarelado e sujo (não só em filmes da disney, mas filmes americanos em geral) acho que pra mostrar pobreza??? E quando tem alguma representação (como em Rio ou Viva a vida é uma festa) é muito esteriotipado e não retratam a cultura direito, mudam e misturam coisas.
Sameee I grew up in a mostly white country and as a little child people would call me Pocahontas, I thought it was a compliment until I read the real story and was heartbroken. I get uncomfortable whenever I think about it now...
I’m from the Peruvian Amazon and I feel this exactly. As a little girl I loved Pocahontas but as I grew older and read the story (after moving to the US) it makes my stomach turn. It also doesn’t help that we (women from the Peruvian Amazon) are desired by het cis men for having “sangre caliente” (sexy/hot blood... as in “sexiness” is in our blood.)
*Mina:* “I can’t think of another animated character with a red blue and yellow color scheme”
*Sailor Moon has left the chat*
To be fair, I think she means outfit color scheme, not counting the hair.
Nintendo characters:
@@GoddoDoggo she does have a bit of yellow but it's mostly overpowered by the gold
I was scrolling through the comments and she said that exact part as I watched the video
lol, i think she was talking about disney ones though
Your blouse reminded me of Ariel’s dress and then you came for it. 💀
Lmao fr. I heard that and looked at her blouse and 🌝
Ariels dress is ugly and is her blouse so like she came for Ariel and herself
The difference is the colour scheme. It's a nice dress, but it looked bad on Ariel because of her hair colour, while Mina found a way to match it correctly.
@@NyxieLove22 nah, I really like it. To each their own or whatever, but I think it's cute
Thats exactly what I was thinking! Very funny touch and made me like her more
I don't like Pocahontas because it is romanticizing a 10 year old girl who went through horrible stuff.
She was 10?! Oh my god 🤮
@@lpsfairylightz6468 not in the animation, in the animation they aged her so she's around 18...they're talking about the real Pocahontas, the one in the text books
Lilian Alves I know they are talking about textbook- I’m just saying that it’s disgusting that Disney would try to romanticize such things happening to a ten year old.
I don't like Pocahontas because it glorifies colonisation. Like how there was one bad guy and the rest just didn't understand each other. In the song savages thisis made perfectly clear. Disney tries to act like both parties are the same and both are at fault when historically speaking, this is furthest from the truth. They also tried to glance over the brutal treatment of natives in the second film
@@juliameyer10313 ty!!!
Also, let's talk about the fact that Jasmine and Pocahontas, two of Disney's most sexualized princesses, were the first Princesses of color and were 15 and 19 (though real life Pocahontas was freakin' 12 when the Jamestown settlers landed).
The only good thing about Pocahontas is that Disney (probably, hopefully) won't make a live action adaptation of it.
But seriously, thank you for bringing up the fact that these were made by Westerners, for Westerners and how that obscures the facts and skews the truths of these cultures and how they're perceived.
I agree with you, they were both one of the most sexualised princesses and if they DID make a live action pocohontas, i will RIOT.
Here's what id want:
1)pocohontas better be twelve
2)she better be played by an indeginous actress
3) there will be an ACCURATE STORY
4) they mention her actual name (matoako, i believe)
5) imagine seeing a little girl DEFEND her enemy. idk kinda sounds badass but indigneous should judge on that scene or not
edit: spelling and adding to the list :)
@@nemashan3701 exactly!! There's no way to live action the Disney fairy tale version without being offensive towards native Americans and life she actually had. I loved Pocahontas, Aladdin, and Mulan as a kid, but once I grew up I realized they totally sugar coated / altered stuff they didn't need to. Idk, I will say that those movies definitely made me interested in other cultures, I just wish they were more accurate. I think Disney is headed in a better direction now at least (like Moana was pretty cute. SHINY.)
Also I didn't see them being sexualized as a child because I was innocent, but I can see that now.
I love seeing more color and culture coming to cartoons though. I love animation. I'm forever a child lmaoooo
@@doodoodoodle bahaha sameee.
how do you know jasmine's age?
Yes pocohontas was the worst because it was based on a real person. Like at the very least they could have used different names since making it historically accurate would not have been child friendly. But the morals of the story were good. When it comes to Aladdin since the setting is fictional I don't think historical accuracy is as important
ariel’s blue and white dress was so pretty! it’s simple and the bow is adorable (also as a redhead blue is the best)
I recently watched Aladdin, and I noticed in the first bit with Aladdin running away from the guards, he jumps through a window into a room where there appears to be a h*rem. All the women there are dressed basically exactly like Jasmine. That confused me a bit, as that doesn't make sense in any way, shape, or form.
They were female entertainers (prostitutes) lol. You can see that they treated Aladdin badly because he had been there before and they knew he was poor. They were dressed like that because their job probably required them to belly dance and such to attract attention and costumers, though then again, considering the region and era I'm not sure how much open and revealing even prostitutes could have been back then. 🤷🏻♀️
why censor harem?
They were more covered than jasmine
h a r e m. why censor words nobody gets triggered by?
@@zoarium4289 youtube censorship is more likely than the word being offensive, like how people on tiktok will say shit like “unalive” and “real life game over” when discussing s/uicide so their videos don’t get flagged.
as a history and fashion nerd, i feel this so, *so* hard. but as an animator, im getting carpal tunnel just imagining drawing Belle's panniers during the dance sequence ahejdisks
Fr I dropped animations like 5 months ago 😭💀
To me Ariel's dress is not iconic because she's a mermaid, I only see her with her tail and... "bra"
i think her dress should have been light purple to match the shells she wears as a mermaid
Actually i like her green dress i think its nice on her at least it fits well since shes a mermaid
The blue sparkling dress is way more iconic. Even though you see her in it for about 10 seconds
I like how Ariel looks in blue and seafoam green. Pink is a nice color but it doesn't fit Ariel.
They definitely should have done a green,purple, or seafoam dress. I mean even a mermaid style dress would have helped with her character. If they had done it historically accurate & had put more work into her dress they could have embodied her character a lot better than the dress they chose. I feel like the pink dress was a major flop
Aurora's neckline is probably angular because the team deliberately made her general design (and that of most characters) more angular/"pointy", to recall the style of stained glass windows and tapestries. Funny enough, this actually made a lot of people see her as less attractive than previous princesses, because "dollface" was in back then.
maybe unpopular opinion, but i actually love the Sleeping Beauty visuals and the aesthetic. the pointy look is iconic to me :'D
@@caIyps0 It's funny, because it's a much more common aesthetic nowadays - we are very much overly celebratory of skinniness, if anything.
That said, having an angular jaw does make it easier to headcanon her as trans. A girl with strong shoulders and jaw, raised in the woods by three sweet old lesbians, classically dressed in pink and blue, who also goes by a flower name and mostly avoids her parents? You think we didn't notice, Disney?
@@loreleiflare7388 aahgghh i was just digging the aesthetic, nothing deeper than that :''DD
but hey, that's a very nice interpretation✨✨
sleeping beauty aesthetic was definitely much prettier
I still think she's the most beautiful princess..
I totally get what ur saying about Jasmine, but as an Arab women myself, I can tell u I most certainly wore shiny baggy pants like she did in the movie. they were tight on the ankles, and baggy on the legs. I never watched Aladdin as a kid but I can see where they got a couple aspects of the fashion, although I totally agree it is way over sexualized, and modernized. I think they did ok on the earrings though. I'm not middle eastern so ik the fashion is different there but there r definitely overlaps, and I feel as though the pants r one of them. (I'm Algerian)
Yes! The pants are definitely the most “accurate” aspect. I guess what I meant was that women living in the Arabian Peninsula in the 9th century would look considerably different from Jasmine haha. Thank you for your perspective 💜
@@gremlita yes I totally agree, loved the video btw it was really well done
What do you think about Jasmine other clothing in the movie. like the one she was wearing, when they were announcing her fiance Aladdin to her people.
@@gremlita What do you think about Jasmine other clothing in the movie. like the one she was wearing, when they were announcing her fiance Aladdin to her people.
@@frannyc7248 it's still not that accurate 😂 but at least they covered her waist lol, even when I was a child I felt weird watching Aladdin because Jasmine looked like a stripper 😱 so I didn't even complete it, tbh even as a child I felt offended and like they were mocking us by making her a stripper.
The way Disney sexualizes women of color character is disgusting
I mean Tiana wasn't sexualized
Really? Go back and watch The little Mermaid along with Pinocchio to see how Ariel Md Tinkerbell wwre sexualized..
Except for tianna
@@jennas9033 yeah like Tiana was a FROG. ofc she's not as sexualized when she's not even human for over half of the movie
@@bonniehowell4259 you’re so pathetic just please shut the fuck up
Mina: idk how to put this nicely, but i just think Ariel’s dress is ugly
also Mina: is possibly wearing Ariel’s dress
I thought the same thing 🤣
She looks like Snow White with Ariel's dress on 😂
omg hahaha
Literally was gonna comment the same thing like, Idk how to put this nicely but I think ur wearing her so called ugly dress😂
I think the main reason why she found the dress ugly was mainly because it didn't suit Ariel at all. Simply changing the color would've made a big difference.
I love how educated this comment section is, I love it when people act maturely about a serious situation.😊
Getting angry about every thing is not well educated. This comment section is plaqued by social justice warriors, and people always seeing themselves as the victim.
Well educated in the matter of opression olympics
@@akashajones6079 who's angry?
@@akashajones6079 I can obviously see the type of person you are from this comment 😒. They’re serious issues but ok
@@akashajones6079 pretty ignorant but ok
P L E A S E do historical accuracy of historical american girl dolls
Brilliant
YES
YESSSSS
I feel like you could be a Disney princess tbh
A cross between Mulan and Snow White
EMMY d definitely snow white
Disney princesses have eyebrows
emily mulcahy have you seen Snow White?
emily mulcahy Disney princesses can have any eyebrows they want
"Westernization does not equate to feminism." YES. Also let's let it sink in that Mel Gibson a)voiced John Smith and b)said "she's a babe." About a teenaged cartoon character.
In other news: great vid, and way to acknowledge your biases!
In the movie she was 19 if that helps at all. I know historically she was younger.
@@kioku119 he was 38 at the time. thats still creepy to say that about a 19 year old.
@@kioku119 You have a good point. I thought a bit more, and I guess my main issue with Gibson's comment wasn't the age gap. It was his reduction of the character to a sexual object and nothing else. It's a sum-up of the character... w/o acknowledging any actual CHARACTER traits her appearance may reveal. Sigh. At least, according to Mina, that means the animators achieved the "sexy" look they were going for :/
I also thought his role of John Smith, the Misogynistic Colonizer, was very on the nose. Mel Gibson's behavior towards anyone NOT just like him is painful. I'm kinda morbidly fascinated with which public figures get "cancelled," for how long, and which get "forgiven." Check out his history of crappy life choices and worldviews: variety.com/2020/film/news/mel-gibson-controversies-career-1234696080/#article-comments
@@kioku119 *trigger warning* He's a creep period don't forget he wished someone to get sexually assaulted
J Do can you explain what you mean by ‘’woke buzzword crowd’’?
Literally everything else about all of disney's Pocahontas movies: 0/10
The songs from Pocahontas: 10/10
Art design that wasn't the of the natives and Pocahontas's awful outfits were stunning tbh, i loved the backgrounds
But I love Meeko and Flit😢
I give Cinderella a weird fee pass for her dress never seeming like it makes place in the time of her movie I think most adaptations of Cinderella don’t do that because she’s supposed to stand out and the dress is crafted from magic (in most versions)
Wasn’t Pocahontas a little girl in reality though? Shouldn’t that be a factor? I may be wrong and I’m open to being corrected. But I do know there are confusing versions of her history. But if she was actually a child, I think it’s a little gross that they sexualized her character so much. Even as an adult, but Disney did also change the original story of Cinderella drastically. It was originally a gory story.
disney's cinderella is based on the charles perrault's retelling of the story which is moderately tame compared to earlier versions
most of the western fairytales are originally gory lol
yan stein ah, I was thinking about The Brother’s Grimm version
Yeah she was about 13. Don't want to get into details too much as it's a very tragic story that may upset some, but she was sexualized in real life too.
Camryn Gaines Her name was actually Matoaka, but Pocahontas was her nickname. She was 10 when the colonists arrived. The only reason they coexisted(loosely using that word) for a few years was because they made the Powhatan become their allies against the Spanish. She was about 15 or 16 when they kidnapped her. She had a husband and child at that this point from her village. They murdered her husband after letting them see each other one last time, and she never saw her child again. She was constantly raped. John Rolfe only married her for tribal alliance and tobacco curing techniques. He forced her to bare his child, then took both of them to England. She was a show pony for the elite, to show there was no hostility between the natives and colonist(HA). Once convinced the colonists continued to get their financial support. She was in good health supposed to be getting ready to head home. She died shortly after eating dinner with her husband John Rolfe and Captain John Argall(also the captain that kidnapped her and multiple people from her tribe). She was only 21.
Ws X wow, I have read a few things on her, but I never got this much insight. Thanks!!
My idea for a more accurate Jasmine outfit but still marketable as the classic "Disney princess silhouette" ... keep the loose pants, give her a tunic or a jacket that is flared at the waist with a fitted top half (somewhat resembles the bodice and skirts of the previous princess icons). Puffed sleeves that reach her wrists. The gold headband could have a light veil attached to it. And please, a nicer colour.
Sounds nice.
Same. Her pants are too iconic. It's only her top that needs an upgrade.
her new design in the parks is similar... it’s not perfect, but it’s definitely a step up from the film’s.
This makes me wonder about when people in the future are gonna be like,”In that time era, skater skirts were particularly popular, being worn regularly with...”
ModernGurlz sent me. Love your sleeves and appreciate your research/opinions!
Same lol
you should rate a movie called the snow queen it looks pretty historically accurate to me
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Same
Yes the sleeves are reminiscent of older asian fashions so (if that's what you were going for) I appreciate the asian representation and how you incorporate it into out fits!
If I remember correctly, Irene Bedard, the voice of Pocahontas, had spoken up to Disney about her appearance but was unfortunately unsuccessful in changing their minds.
Wow. How low could the producers get
I've seen so much Pocahontas concept art where she was dressed differently. I wouldn't be surprised if Irene Bedard was cast before the character design was completely finalized, and it's tragic that Disney wouldn't listen to one of the only contributors who was a Native American woman working on their movie about a Native American woman.
I’ve always thought Pocahontas had one of the most beautiful faces , her dress is cute fashion wise but once I think about historical accuracy. It’s ridiculous and overly sexualized for no reason. I never cared for the movie when I was younger, I’d literally fall asleep as soon as John Smith showed up. Maybe one day we can get new stories that don’t white wash.
okay i am now obsessed with this channel there arent enough fashion analysis channels out there for real
I recommend Hautelemode!
Can you imagine how amazing Jasmine would have looked if Disney had animated her in traditional, historically accurate clothing? It would have been beautiful!!
The most beautiful princess dressed in her historical garments would have been gorgeous
I still love the way Jasmine looks in the movie, but seriously guys. If you think what they did to Jasmine was bad you should’ve seen what the animators were doing to Aladdin. His character design was so hated throughout the studio by the people in charge that they were willing to cancel the movie over it because they saw Jasmine and I quote as too beautiful to be with a guy like him and that you need to make his character design more attractive in order for the story to make Senseor else we’re shutting down
After reading the comments. I'm guessing I was the only girl who thought Ariel's pink dress looked cute on her.
the dress did look cute, but now that I think about it, it really didn't do much for her hair
No I loved the dress even if it’s not that memorable. She only wore it for a little n it looked really cute
I like the dress.
I love it too! I love the red and pink combo, it's very lovecore and Valentine's Day is my favorite holiday anyways
I love snow white dress is so beautiful cute and pretty !😇😊👸💖💖💛
I much prefer the blue dress Ariel wears when she goes into town I don’t know how historically accurate it is but the colors and design fit way more with her red hair and personality and not to mention her behavior cause she is quite naive, bubbly, excited and is always ready to explore and having this toned more civilian dress just suits a lot more.
Girl you are not alone I have always hated Ariel’s pink dress why her dress looks like that is beyond me 😬
Even as a preschooler I wanted her to be in the sparkly dress more! it's so much better
Even though Ariel's pink dress is horrible, it accurately reflects her character because she doesn't fit into the "human world" as well as the fact that she only had a small amount of time to get ready.
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The fact that everyone hates it is funny to me it has always been one of my favorites
@@julianabeesly8070 Same!! Its my favorite disney princess dress 😂 it feels so good to see another fan as well!!
Jasmine’s outfit when she left the palace to explore the markets was more accurate than her entire fit throughout the rest of the movie.
Me being a Native American I find Pocahontas kind of upsetting to history.
Right. I'm white and I hate how movies (especially old westerns) have native American people as savages and villains. Its terrible
Kelsey 23 it really is. Native Americans weren’t the bad guys.
i remember i loved the we are all the same message but the movie is problematic considering the history of pocahontas that i really can’t watch it the same.
I completely agree!
i absolutely loathe the portrayal of history, especially the ending. the way it's just like "the murderous colonizers and native people protecting themselves are conveyed as equally bad, and ultimately it was just one really bad guy and then the other colonizers just went home and everyone lived happily ever after the end"
I'm Arab and a feminist but I've hated (Yasmine) Jasmin so much in my childhood and honestly till now, she was supposed to represent us middle eastern girls but they sexualized her and chose a belly dancer clothes that are the opposite of my culture.
Honestly it's not even the opposite of culture they literally took the most sexualized part of the culture then bastardized it to fit Western ideals/views of Arabs or brown people. Imo it's not just belly dancer clothes, it's an idealized harem outfit. It's like they wanted to do "French couture" and they literally went to the STREETS and modeled the clothes after prostitutes. The disrespect is so infuriating.
bruh not even women in harem would wear something like this,,, why they couldn’t give her pre-islamic persian/arab dress if they’re so scared to give her hijab/veil
@@samaraisnt I mean, modern French haute couture is not far from achieving that style.
@My name is Dannye i mean, if they had one particular culture and not a mix of three different cultures, then it would be easy to say how she supposed to look like. in persia, arab caliphate and during the muslim rule in india in one particular century and year all this three countries had their own fashion.
@My name is Dannye firstly, im hindu, have you ever seen a picture of a hindu goddess? Obviously not, they wear sarees. Not belly tops. We know she’s not Hindu because the sultan mentions Allah, so they’re Muslim. As for your second comment, do about 2 minutes of research. If Aladdin took place in the 9th century then she would most definitely not be wearing that. Search up ‘9th century Indian clothes’ or ‘9th century Persian clothes’ it’s not accurate. Besides no one is saying that dressing like a belly dancer is wrong, but most muslims don’t wear such revealing clothing for religious reasons. Please do your research.
21:05 as a brown arab woman, that made me very happy
Being independent doesn't mean following the west and abandoning your culture
Depends. If it's in an Arab country, you should totally embrace your culture. If it's in the West, you should accept the taboos/rules/laws of the country that hosts you.
@@_blank-_ we do accept they’re ideologies but that doesn’t mean we have to be like them
@@_blank-_ i'll embrace my culture no matter where I am thanks very much, if my culture breaks your taboos then that sounds like racism and xenophobia to me. Wish the west had the same attitude when it comes to invading and destroying our home countries.
@@_blank-_ say you are racist and leave I see you everywhere
What does « brown » mean? (I am sorry idk)
When you say "does it hurt the story to make it more historically accurate" referring to the dress Belle is wearing, I totally understand what you mean because you clearly know about fashion, etc. But the thing is that when you are designing a character you have to make it "animatable", It's incredible hard and you have to think that 1 second of animation are 24 frames, 24 drawings. Imagining having to animate every detail hundreds of times. So they make dresses and clothes that they can animate, and that means having to simplify them even If they dont want to. Also, the characters (skin tones and clothes) have to contrast with the backgrounds (settings), because If not its going to make the color pallete in general look really "similar" and nothing would stand out. That's why Snow white dress have those colors, to make her pop off the screen. I study animation so I just wanted to explain/tell these things. Everyone analyze something from their field of expertise.
Absolutely. 100%. Animation is extremely intensive. And I just have to tolerate the Disney Princess™️ brand dresses. It’s like most of them wore a similar dress in the film so it’s hard to market it.
If you can’t animate a good dress, you shouldn’t be animating a dress at all
@@smwatertasteslikewaterif you don’t know anything about art don’t say stuff about it 😊
Maybe they could at least make a good dress for like a short? Like a little dance short where belle wears a historical dress. They make the dress cool for the dolls at least
you really did your researches and put a lot of effort in the video, thank you for respecting the Arabic culture and the way we are dressed and not offending us the way other people do.
"westernization do not equate to feminisms"
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I remember in 1st-2nd grade I dressed up as Jasmine for Halloween and it was a two piece. My mom wanted me to wear a white shirt underneath, but I didn't want to because it would "ruin the costume" or something. Now that I'm 16, I understand why she wanted me to.
I understand that for marketing or whatever, Jasmine was a popular character, but WHY would you sell two pieces to young children?
...Children wear two piece swimwear showing stomach. I'm not sure why a childs stomach should offend anyone.. wtf
@@akashajones6079 yes but this specific 2 piece is mimicing a highly sexualised character
@@akashajones6079 but that is *swim wear* we are talking about a costume marketed towards literal CHILDREN who may be 9 years old.
I mean really, who’s idea was it to put Ariel - this pale white girl with fire-engine red hair - in a blush pink dress? That combination doesn’t even sound good on paper, much less look good on screen.
A genius, because they knew it wouldn’t fit.
It was meant to show how she was new to the human world and didn't know how to dress well. That being said, its ugly as fuck
I personally never understood the hate the pink dress gets as I've always liked it on her
LadyDragonbane Same here
@@LadyDragonbane same here ive always thought it was nice
0:00 Intro
1:12 Snow White (1937)
6:21 Cinderella (1950)
9:36 Aurora (1959)
12:44 Ariel (1989)
15:41 Belle (1991)
18:03 Jasmine (1992)
22:34 Pocahontas (1995)
26:25 Outro
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Someone should make a completely new movie based on the actual “1001 nights”, that seems like a cool story
There's a sort of short movie where Jasmine and Aladdin go to another kingdom, and the young prince is so spoiled he's not letting them out the palace and Jasmine keeps telling him stories while Aladdin tries to find a way out.
Taniart 17 whats it called
There is actually a webtoon about them. It's called *The Wrath & The Dawn* it's a really good story you can read it on Line Webtoon.
Porcelain Pig I just started reading it! The art is great.
@@cacia247 It's actually based on a book with the same title
She is the only person I have ever seen pull of those thin eyebrows
no
I have a goth non binary buddy that looks pretty sick nasty with their thin line brows/lighting ziggys/ random shapes lol!! They have a super cool aesthetic I could never pull off. Some people can pull of anything and I'm jelly 😂
One Salty Beach o cool! And lol 🤣
mila yes❤️
Fact I didn't notice her eyebrows till now
The blue lighting in the ballroom scene became so iconic that everyone thought of the dress as blue 😭😂
disney marketed her dress as a pale blue not silver or white or even sky blue
@@Bella-du4vb they did that because they didnt want to make it seem like the marketing white wedding looking dresses to kids
"Westernization does not equate to feminism." Thank you!
True. But people often misuse this word: Jasmine was not westernized, not her features nor her clothes or the place she lives in. Same for Mulan. Actually, most Disney princesses were not westernized. I'm still waiting for an African princess (well, more sub-Saharan one, than Egyptian or Moroccan since both of these countries already have a huge worldwide exposure in pop culture). Because Princess & the Frog was more Black-Americans. Imagine a Kenyan princess.
@@comptgoogl4471 actually Aladdin and Jasmune speaking with American accent while Jafar speaking with Arab accent .
I once heard that animators made Ariel’s dress pink and awkward on purpose to show how out of place she was. A fish out of water if you will
0:00 Introduction & Disclaimers
1:10 Snow White & The Seven Dwarves (Snow White)
6:20 Cinderella
9:36 Sleeping Beauty (Aurora)
12:44 The Little Mermaid (Ariel)
15:41 Beauty and the Beast (Belle)
18:04 Aladdin (Jasmine)
22:34 Pocahontas
21:39 I call them “shalwar”
Thank you!
Thank you!!
You’re welcome 💕
I hated Jasmine's clothing, honestly. As a muslim woman when I found out she was meant to be muslim it left a sour taste in my mouth.. not to mention her clothing didn't scream "princess" at all. Hell they didn't even do anything that showed arabian ties with the textiles which is a huge part or arabian clothing. No patterns, even the colour seemed off and they wouldn't even give her a little beaded see through veil? I also just don't like how sexualised she was
Yeah i agree, but i think the thing that got most on my nerves was the fact that Jasmine's clothing (and everyone else's clothing) looked more South Asian/Indian. The story takes place in the Middle East, yet their clothing look nothing Middle Eastern!??
I so agree! I remember watching the movie as a kid and being soo confused.
Well when I was a kid, I just thought she was middle eastern so I identified with her (Maltese) and I loved she was sassy and a bit more sexy. I loved it,
As I kid I was like “Jasmines weird lol” or “wears tHe ClOtheS”
Now I get what my ‘kid self’ meant-
I think I tried to say revealing but course I didn’t know what that was, but ye that’s my story-
Hey it's a movie...
Calm the fuck down.
My mother's family is Eastern Band of Cherokee and my father's family is Persian and so I greatly appreciated the Jasmine and Pochahontas sections of this video so much. With the amount of vagueness in the Aladin story, I don't understand why they couldn't have copied some of the really fabulous Turkish and Persian clothing from the 16th to 18th century and had to revert to belly dancer tropes. Also if you're ever looking for information on Native American clothing check out the complete works of Edward S Curtiss, who was a 19th-century photographer that self-funded anthropological expeditions to document the traditional clothing and practice of Native Americans. They are quite spectacular.
It’s Arab not Persian
@@guesswhoshere8024 Aladdin is a terribly inaccurate movie, it mixed up Persian, Arab and Desi cultures
@@lo-fiaesthetic5382 v true
Question: how historically accurate is Aurora's peasant dress? Or Ariel's more casual, blue dress with the huge bow?
not very. Aurora is wearing her corset, which wouldn't be a thing until the 1800s, on the outside. It's kind of like wearing a bra over a t shirt. Also they're both showing their ankles.
@@whatalsaid Thanks!
@@whatalsaid and her corset lacing is in the front
Idk but as a lolita I adore that dress ((｡♡‿♡｡)
Princess dresses are based on the time the movie came out not accurate to the time in the movie
The fact that the real pocahontas was a literal 11 year old makes her dress design even worse lol
I completely agree with all of these, but I also think that the animators decided to make the designs more simple because the ruffles and the details would be too difficult to animate, and the historically accurate outfits wouldn't exactly appeal to children
Even cartoons or animation that take place in modern day are simplistic in the characters' clothing. Look at Phineas and Ferb. They wear the same outfits every episode. It's purely an animating issue. No one's going to watch Beauty and the Beast and think, "Aw, so that's what life was like before the French Revolution," because talking plates give it away. No one's looking to these movies for historical accuracy save Pocahontas and maybe Tiana and Mulan. For most of the princesses they aren't meant to be in a specific year or time period. They're in a made-up world where some can talk to animals or people can use magic.
I'd say it will appeal to children of the same culture (while educating others) cause kids love to relate and see themselves, it's normal, and seeing their culture worn by a princess or prince is exciting for them!
Definitely the animation thing. It’s just too labour intensive to hand draw that.
Why is it not appealing to children? Children love facts about history? And an iconic historically accurate fashion silhouette like that would be new to them but that's why it would be exciting. Adults tend to just assume children are boring and their feeble minds are incapable of finding appeal in a dress that's a different shape. It's arbitrary nonsense.
But they could've drown simple outfit for jasmine and pocahontas without being offensive and disrespectful
Let's pls not give then any excuses here
“I can’t think of any of character with a red blue and yellow color scheme”
Superman: 👁👄👁
She said disney
@@luv_strawberriez 5:50 "I can't think of any animated character that has the same scheme" did you even check ma'am
donald duck and sailormoon:👁👄👁
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Mina le: "Ariel's dress is ugly!"
Also Mina le: *is wearing Ariel's dress*
Right!! Before i even clicked the vid, the thumbnail to me looked uncanny to ariels dress
Ariel's dress IS ugly. Mina can just rock anything
@@sophia.aquino. period
i thought her dress was super pretty!!
idk i like the shiny
and she looks really nice in light pinkシ
@@sophia.aquino. fr
i really love how they only made the women of color so sexualized 🤦♀️ 🙄
It’s 💯 true they’re the most sexualised, although I think some of Ariel’s ‘poses’ are too; Usually when she’s coming out of the water, tilting her head, looking up from under her lashes, thrusting herself chest first... typical of Disney to sexualise children’s content
Hson Mari oh god-
@@hsonmari6665 ugh now that I look back on it, yes- 😐
@@hsonmari6665 I feel like theres very few selection of poses to do as a mermaid lol. It's kind of like a seal pose. I don't see the sexuality in her having lashes and sitting like that etc.
Tiffany N. I’d love to see the little mermaid doing some awkward seal flops coming out of the ocean 🤣. “Hey Eric 👋🏻”
About the snow white girdle thing, we can actually look at the original fairytale for that. The stepmother actually made 3 attempts to kill snow, the first one with a "Schnürriemen" which seems to be basically a girdle or bodice. The stepmom laced it so tight that snow couldn't breathe and fainted. She was saved by the dwarves cutting it open
being middle eastern, Jasmine has always been my favorite Disney princess. however, her outfit is very inaccurate. it’s hella disrespectful that Disney thinks it’s okay to modify our culture/s to fit their westernized/sexually appealing fantasies about middle eastern women. :/
its just a movie i always liked jasmines clothes
Actually outside of things such as Pocahontas Disney does a lot of extensive research about certain cultures and there were several character designs for Jasmine that were very modest and unique that they were choosing from. They decided to go with the one you see in the movie because like she mentioned in the video they wanted a more 90s look because they were trying to make Aladdin a modern retelling of the original 1001 Arabian nights and the reason why they combine multiple cultures is because they just like certain things about some cultures like certain things about others and want to make it. This unique mishmash artist do it all the time barring from other cultures to combine the main reason why ag had to become a thing rather than a specific countryis because something had happened during that time. Period and they didn’t want to offend Arab people by depicting an actual.place that was going through hardship so they decided that at that point they could just do whatever they want as long as they didn’t actually use anything too specific
Also, another reason for Jasmine‘s appearance is the animator who worked on her had worked on several Disney princesses, and overall he was sick of the designs he was doing and wanted to experiment and thought that Jasmine deserved something more modern and unique at least in his opinion and that he didn’t want to dress her like all the other Disney princesses because he thought it would be Boring and wanted her to be a new fresh type of princess the studio
May be racist, but the actual people that put their blood sweat and tears into the movie or just ordinary people trying to do their best that make a lot of mistakes
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@@rose-gl4iouh....?
I wish ariels main dress that she’s associated with would be that sparkly dress that she stepped out of the water in
Something in blue/and similar to Kim's met gala dress, but with different sillhoutee? maybe?
Same
but that's even more not historically accurate
Idk, I to me Cinderella’s dress looks a lot like a 1950s spin on 1850s fashion. Like the big poofy skirt and the poofy sleeves with a more open neckline seem very early-mid 1800s inspired to me. Even down to the fact that she is wearing gloves.
I'd actually go 1860s because of the shape of the skirt and crinoline. Especially since her childhood outfit is peak 1850s
Belle Époque very true as well, either way the silhouette screams big Victorina hoop skirt to me
@@susanalopez5052 my thoughts exactly.
I love how you don’t just look at the style bc of style you explain why it is that style and how it affects people, society and cultures. This is the most well rounded, thought through princess review I have ever seen. You looked at each one through multiple perspectives. Love it! ❤️
In part 2 I will love to see you rant Anastasia's dress from the movie Anastasia from fox animation studios ( Disney bought fox animation studios so she's technically a Disney princess) btw this movie is supposed to take place in 1926 in Russia
the franchise doesn’t consider her a princess tho :(.
omg yea !! also in the paris scenes she wears so many beautiful dresses :)
OMG THAT NAVY DRESS??? yes
I got to research Anastasia’s outfits and I loved how historically accurate they were! Man I just love Anastasia so much 😌💕🇷🇺
@@StarDust-th6fm they are INACCURATE lol unless you're trolling
I believe the reason the dresses aren’t as detailed/historically accurate is because it’s easier to animate :)) this is an amazing video btw
i loved your segment on Pocahontas. i myself am native american (ojibwe) and have been told countless times "you look like Pocahontas" which has always rubbed me the wrong way. if you ever wanted to learn more about our clothing you should look into it! for me i personally love ribbon skirts and beading my own earrings ☺️
Hunter Poitra omg same!!! every time a white boy finds out im indigenous first thing they say is “you look like pocahontas” lmfao boy BYE
Or I hate the "you don't look native" like pocahontas' cheekbones and big lips is what they're expecting every native girl to look like
Unrelated but I love your profile picture 💚
Ew I'm so sorry you have to hear that
@@nimkii-d5d but many cultures deal with that type of image. When someone comes to germany (where I'm from.) Many americans expect us to wear lederhosen or dirndl.
Or in now more modern days they thing most of us walk around in adidas suits. I got to hear "You don't look german" numerous times from americans.
Those things are always images created by movies/social media and stuff.
Im so glad you mentioned the crime that is cinderella’s blue dress. The silver was gorgeous! It didn’t have to be changed to blue!
fun fact you prob don't know:
My piano teacher was the second choice for the voice of Pocahauntas.(sorry Idk how to spell it) Dawn Smith Jordan. She told me she's glad she turned it down because of the hate the movie received. Also as an indigenous woman it means a lot how you bring the sexual violence to the surface.
about the ariel dress:
correct me if i’m wrong but wasn’t the point of the dress used to represent that ariel DOESN’T belong? idk i’ve always seen it as symbolic about how it’s not her natural environment, thus wearing conflicting colors/clothes.
I liked her blue more "peasant" clothing? Idk what to call it, her prince rendezvous get-up lmao
Yeah she probably didn't research it
There are so many comments on this, Ik that she probably didn’t research it but gosh- I’m pretty sure she’s gotten the hint- also some of you need to be more nice with what you’re putting out there-
•*PeachyxxJelly*• what? I mean I get your first point but what they said isn’t rude at all or not nice. They just stated simply what they thought. Or are you talking about something else?
Well, Disney marketed Ariel with her pink dress for a long time so i don't get suprised when people thinks it's her main dress 🤷♀️
Sleeping Beauty is however based on the French version by Perrault, so it would be France, I believe. Rapunzel is German. Not Italian, not French, not Polish, not Hungarian. I have seen many people say those.
But this video is great anyway.
Rapunzel and Snow White are definitely german. Sleeping Beauty takes place at a castle that literally looks like Schloss Neuschwanstein in Bavaria Germany.
I was always told sleeping beauty was in England
To be honest.... who cares?
@@bistli1566 People who care what the cultural details of the stories and films come from?
With stories this old it’s actually SO difficult to place exactly where they came from without very deep research! These stories have been passed around many cultures for many years! So to place them with any 100% certainty somewhere specific is a really difficult goal! Anyways all that to say, there’s much discourse about where these stories actually originate, so depending on which version you read it can really change ones opinion on historical accuracy. Nobody is technically wrong to say any of those things, so long as they are referencing a version congruent to what they are saying. ex. A rapunzel story recorded from Italy/France/Poland/Hungary. But that’s just my opinion and I know I tend to be less of a stickler for historical details, like so.
the fact that all the princesses were so young! snow white was only 14
Omg I love the sheer shirt thing she is wearing. I dont know what it is but its cute!
You mean wearing?
@@VALENSlO yes sorry 😅
www.depop.com/products/deepwatershop-champagne-sheer-organnza-pink-blouse/
This is what she was wearing.
@@Ooo-wv2ct 200 DOLLARSSSS ???? OMG
Why are you lying?
Loved you disclaimer that we shouldn’t necessarily be sticklers for historical accuracy at the beginning, I don’t get people who call the Disney princess dresses bad because they aren’t historically accurate, like that is very much not the point (although it is fun to talk about)
As a Native American woman, I really really appreciate your analysis on Pocahontas ❤️
your videos may not cure my depression but they sure make it easier to deal with. you give me faith in humanity and i learn a lot more from you than i do in most of my classes (and i'm majoring in philosophy). the fact that you rate based on historical accuracy not only shows that you really care about what you're doing professionally (as in, you gathered and researched all the info you could) but you also educate yourself in the issues and implications of all of this and you make a point to mention them and give facts about it and i love that honestly it feels amazing to know someone cares enough to do the research and learning about opressed people through opresses people's voices is, in my opinion, the best way to do it. anyway i sound like a white girl trying to praise herself but truly this video made me so happy thanks
mina: “i can’t think of any other animated character with that color scheme”
superman: *crying in the corner*
This was amazing.
As a Diné woman, I truly and deeply appreciate you addressing the issues around Pocahontas and that indigenous womxn still face high rates of abuse and murder. ❣️
Cool video! I'm glad to see you bring up the fact that Jasmine and Pocahontas are both much more sexualized than their peers. They are both actually my favorite princesses but I can't deny the problematic issues with their designs and how they are portrayed in their films. Although Disney seemed to portray their women of color in a pretty sexualized manner in the 90's and early 2000's. See also Esmeralda, Kida and Nani.
Jeremy Jones bruh what are you onnnnn? I'm native we do have traditional clothing that use leather and animal fur and stuff every culture has clothes you understand right?
@Jeremy JonesAs a doll collector, I'd love to have more historically accurate dolls, so I'd absolutely buy one!
@Jeremy Jones all the little girls who wear one and wanna see a princess that them?
le poisson-globe Can confirm, my tribes wore clothes (Lakota and Senica)... we would have froze to death in the winter without clothes!
Nani wasn’t sexualized though? Like at all? Yeah she wears crop tops and has cleavage, but all the other Disney princesses in their dresses show cleavage too, and she lives in warm Hawaii. Even her swimsuit isn’t that revealing.
The only time she was sexualized was when she was working in the luau restaurant, and the movie even calls out that it’s touristy and inaccurate. Disney definitely has sexualized it’s women of color (cough Esmeralda), but Nani isn’t sexualized.
really appreciate how you went into the exoticization of the poc princesses and the male gaze involved.