There won’t be a Nioh 3, sadly. Mainstream only talks about Call Of Trashy and dumb BS like that. I’m grateful for this series. It fills in where none others do.
Nioh 2 is a story about inherited hate and ambition. The hate that started with Otakemaru, carried on through Yokai for many years. And that hate became so strong it took form as a spirit that possessed and destroyed many people. It took advantage of their dreams and ambitions and turned them to darkness. Tokichiro just wanted to be taken seriously and respected. He wanted to achieve his dream. The hardships of that road turned him to hatred and Otakemaru's influence took him over. How does that star wars thing go? Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred. Hatred leads to despair.
@@SlavicWhiteWolf so yeah fearing that otakemaru might kill them for doing meaningles shit is wrong sure. While that thief surely needed punishment, killing that thief is what made people fear him.
"Just like old times... Remember, how I brought you around when we first met... I dreamed of reaching the top... Those very stones granted me my wish. I stood, at the very pinnacle... But I wanted too much. I didn't know it was the darkness that devoured dreams. The nightmare that gripped me grew and grew... I thought it would last forever... until finally you woke me." "My life, Came like dew, disappears like dew. All of Naniwa, Is dream after dream."
Honestly, this song is amazing. I also like the little aspect of how if you yokai shift against him, he comments on it and ask why you're using that power against him.
I genuinely choked up at that. Made me feel guilty, even after what had happened. Tokichiro had the best intentions at heart, and it sucks that it was corrupted the way it was.
I was not expecting to be so gripped by the story. This track made me tear up a bit while fighting him. When you think about how hideyoshi has been together for nearly 20 years at this point. And then tochikiro’s ambition takes over and destroys their wonderful friendship. It’s just heart wrenching when you sit back and really analyze it.
My sister and I were not expecting the emotional rollercoaster this game gave us. The personal journey between Hide and Tokichiro is some of the best I've seen.
"Then all I got to offer you is death!" Tokichiro set has the buff called "Multitude of Hopes" which sounds like he is carrying the hopes of everyone in the land. Through the level a lot of samurai fight you stating things like "Lord Tokichiro is the only hope this land has left/ he is the only one who can guide us!" Which means despite his cruelty, people still see him for the great man he is. You cannot win a war by being nice. Legendary, a true Hideyoshi.
It's a same deal like with Nobunaga. When people from a wartorn country see a single man who has a will and power to stop wars, many would be inclined to follow him.
@@johnnyboy3410 I think the fact that he went through the trouble of terraforming an enormous amount of his own land just to bury us by the most beautiful place possible would suggest otherwise
One of the things that I think made Nioh 2’s boss music so incredible was the voice acting and commentary from the bosses mod fight. Hitting the brute yokai-shift counter right as the song crescendos and hearing that furious shout with the rising strings is such an intense feeling. Especially with the game’s difficulty, it really feels like your character is fighting for their life, and is full of life (contrasting, say, the near-lifelessness or thematic fatigue in the Souls series). Love it.
What made this fight even more tragic for me was that I used Dual Swords all the way through the game, and so it was painful to see my character and Tokichiro fight both with Dual Swords. Like Obi-Wan and Anakin going at it but without the safety of the memes.
Do you have any idea how accurately you two just described that dude... yep dude is the best I got at the moment. Ghost of Tsushima is taking up most of my head space right now.
This song brought out some heavy emotions. I went into this fight HATING him, but that sad song spoke volumes this storyline wasn't meant to be taken that way. Or so I see it.
I went in sad to the first fight. When he killed my Remilia, THEN I stormed Daigoji temple steaming. But the music there and the things he said when you destroy the crystals had me questioning shizz. Then after I beat Yokai Tokichiro I just felt like a colossal douche bag.
The best theme for Hideyoshi in any portrayal I've heard. Ambitious, truly majestic but also with a tragic undertone. Perfectly encapsulates what we know of him as a historical figure.
Despite all things he did I'll forever despise him for the invasion of Korea and the execution of poor Komahime...blood of that innocent 14 year old girl will forever be on his hands.
Friends make for the best antagonists. As you go through the story with them, you already know their motivation, their ambitions and their dreams. Two people walking the same path that now stand at a crossroad. It's a ''So it has to be this way'' moment. After the deed is done, there's no hate, they already understand one another. Although Tokichiro was already possessed by that point, it was still an amazing boss fight. He's a great character all the way through.
I think this song is so good at conveying the feeling that we're not only fighting a video game character called Tokichiro; that We're actually fighting , and we also are Toyotomi Hideyoshi, the second great unifier. We're living history itself. It feels so larger than life. The song feels half tragic and sad that it has come to this between Tokichiro and Hide, but also heroic and triumphant 4:11 as, despite the circumstances, this is closest Japan has been united in the last 100 years.
Finished the main game yesterday and I literally cried after beating him, thinking about the inevitable throughout the entire last level and the events that brought us to this. I hated him for what happens to Oichi but ultimately after he told his story I understood how tragic of a character he was. For me the story ends there, with my friend finally at ease. Fuck... I cry again xD
@@likessox92 They indirectly say at the beginning that they've taken a vow of silence which is never gone into at all and was honestly a pretty flimsy justification for having them not talk.
@@memeg8076 Wouldn't that also mean that the characters' battle grunts should either not come out at all or come out whispy due to the fact that he's got a damaged windpipe? At the same time that wouldn't make any sense considering our guy is an immortal yokai that can come back from death so wouldn't the damaged windpipe be healed?
@@megasoniczxx I think the throat wound theory is the closest we will get to a canon explanation. The loud in-game grunts and screams are an inconsistency, but they're there for dramatic effect more than anything. It's possible that Hide CAN speak, but was simply never taught or trained how to, since they possibly lost their mother while they were still too young before growing up alone in the wilds. Then again, Hide can still read Tokichiro's letter in the beginning just fine, so if their mother had time to teach them that, but not actual speech, then I've no clue.
Tokichiro is the 1st boss I didn't even think about summoning friends or yokai shift (except burst counter). I felt like we need to finish this one on one only. And the theme completely got me in the vibe. First I expected the battle music to be ominous or evil. It turned out to be rather sad. It was so good. It was an honorable fight.
I Yokai shifted on him. I felt it’s what my character would’ve done. All who stand before him will fall, and he must make an example of would-be tyrants. But when the English VA for tochikirio proclaimed in a desperate or sad voice “you’re using that power on me?!” It just broke my heart and I regretted it. Neat little story that adds character to a playthrough.
Can you imagine? 3rd dlc, Otakemaru 2nd phase. You're about to die when tokichiro spirit comes to the rescue. You both draw your blades, manifest your spirits, and shout together: *"We are Hideyoshi !!!"* 0:20
@@Twisted_Tempest And then the final optional mission comes around, and you get to do JUST that. You get to kill Nightmare Bringer with him as many times as you want. I legit cried. He even has unique dialogue for it.
The protagonist and tokichiro is like best friend to each other and they've been through alot of thing until this and when both of them fighting with each other this music suit perfectly lol
Hope you don’t mind me copying my comment from another upload of this song: One of the things I absolutely loved this fight for, alongside the story behind it, is the call forwards in his moveset towards the Toyotomi Hodeyori fight in Nioh 1’s Bloodshed’s End dlc, specifically his occasional use of fire and lightning embedded into his swords.
I still think Nioh 1 has better story, characters, boss and character designs, level beauty, etc. but damn does Nioh 2 triumph in gameplay and music over Nioh 1 without a doubt. No competition there.
I really wish i could have hugged him in the end, i feel like he deserved a little more love after being possessed for 80% of the game. Also more backstory, i know he had it tough since the start
I've always felt that the story in Nioh assumes a level of innate knowledge about Japanese history that falls flat for audiences outside Japan. In Nioh 2, the biggest issue with the story is that Tokichiro goes from being your bestie to a mad dog that must be put down in like one mission, you're just totally blindsided by this plot twist that comes out of nowhere. That's probably because the game assumes you know the history of Toyotomi Hideyoshi already, so you know why and how he turned into a villain.
If you read the Character Directory and take into account the amount of time the story spans, you can reasonably fill in the gaps with next to no prior knowledge.
sadly enough, as good at it was, your character not speaking ruins the emotion because Toki's talking all emotional and your characters just does stupid faces in every emotional cutscene XD
This game achieved the rare thing of making you really feel like you are fighting a friend rather than a villain.
I'm surprised how good this game's soundtrack is. I love it so much.
And imagine this Sound in a hard one on one boss fight. Gives me goosebumps everytime
Both games have some of the best soundtracks you can hear
There won’t be a Nioh 3, sadly. Mainstream only talks about Call Of Trashy and dumb BS like that. I’m grateful for this series. It fills in where none others do.
@@kikibarrios1231 wo long
@@kikibarrios1231 wo long is basically Chinese nioh with more sekiro like combat which is a VERY good thing because sekiro's combat is peak.
Nioh 2 is a story about inherited hate and ambition. The hate that started with Otakemaru, carried on through Yokai for many years. And that hate became so strong it took form as a spirit that possessed and destroyed many people. It took advantage of their dreams and ambitions and turned them to darkness. Tokichiro just wanted to be taken seriously and respected. He wanted to achieve his dream. The hardships of that road turned him to hatred and Otakemaru's influence took him over. How does that star wars thing go? Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred. Hatred leads to despair.
Hatred lead to suffering not despair if i can recall
Otake-chan had a dream of living peacefully with people - and that dream was tainted - not by him but by people ...
@@SlavicWhiteWolf so yeah fearing that otakemaru might kill them for doing meaningles shit is wrong sure. While that thief surely needed punishment, killing that thief is what made people fear him.
This is a very good write up Pieter and 100% true.
And despair leads to destruction.
To destroy others and destroy ourselves.
"You're really leaving?.."
Hit hard as truck🥺🥺🥺
"Just like old times... Remember, how I brought you around when we first met...
I dreamed of reaching the top... Those very stones granted me my wish. I stood, at the very pinnacle...
But I wanted too much. I didn't know it was the darkness that devoured dreams.
The nightmare that gripped me grew and grew... I thought it would last forever... until finally you woke me."
"My life,
Came like dew, disappears like dew.
All of Naniwa,
Is dream after dream."
Honestly, this song is amazing. I also like the little aspect of how if you yokai shift against him, he comments on it and ask why you're using that power against him.
I genuinely choked up at that. Made me feel guilty, even after what had happened. Tokichiro had the best intentions at heart, and it sucks that it was corrupted the way it was.
But meanwhile, he uses the power of the spirit stones without any hesitation for killing you without thinking twice during the fight.
He actually said why won't you use that power for his sake in japanese. Not sure why the translator changed it
I honestly didn't even think about using Yokai Shift in the fight. I just fought him head on.
I was not expecting to be so gripped by the story. This track made me tear up a bit while fighting him.
When you think about how hideyoshi has been together for nearly 20 years at this point. And then tochikiro’s ambition takes over and destroys their wonderful friendship. It’s just heart wrenching when you sit back and really analyze it.
Tokichiro: "and what is it you want hm?"
Protagonist: "I want my friend back."
My sister and I were not expecting the emotional rollercoaster this game gave us. The personal journey between Hide and Tokichiro is some of the best I've seen.
"You are using that power...on me? WHY!?"
1:52 The leitmotif from the epic opening theme. Absolutely beautiful. What an underrated soundtrack.
It really ties the whole track together. This was some incredibly competent composing.
"Then all I got to offer you is death!"
Tokichiro set has the buff called "Multitude of Hopes" which sounds like he is carrying the hopes of everyone in the land. Through the level a lot of samurai fight you stating things like "Lord Tokichiro is the only hope this land has left/ he is the only one who can guide us!" Which means despite his cruelty, people still see him for the great man he is. You cannot win a war by being nice.
Legendary, a true Hideyoshi.
It's a same deal like with Nobunaga. When people from a wartorn country see a single man who has a will and power to stop wars, many would be inclined to follow him.
''YOU'RE GONNA USE THAT POWER ON ME?''
If you're making use of the stones, yeah.
Homie was spawning his Monkey friend over and over too
Even possessed by a demon he still clings on to try and be friends with you again. We don't deserve Tokichiro, what an amazing antagonist
no he tries to get you to his side he was still planning on attacking Tokugawa but he stopped because you defeat him here
@@johnnyboy3410 I think the fact that he went through the trouble of terraforming an enormous amount of his own land just to bury us by the most beautiful place possible would suggest otherwise
IRL, he is known as Toyotomi Hideyoshi.
One of the things that I think made Nioh 2’s boss music so incredible was the voice acting and commentary from the bosses mod fight. Hitting the brute yokai-shift counter right as the song crescendos and hearing that furious shout with the rising strings is such an intense feeling. Especially with the game’s difficulty, it really feels like your character is fighting for their life, and is full of life (contrasting, say, the near-lifelessness or thematic fatigue in the Souls series). Love it.
And when you Yokai shift against him in this fight he says in a angry but sad tone "you're really turning that power against me?"
goosebumps everytime
This was the hardest fight, he really meant for us to triumph with him, side by side even when he is possessed by the red eyed man
What made this fight even more tragic for me was that I used Dual Swords all the way through the game, and so it was painful to see my character and Tokichiro fight both with Dual Swords. Like Obi-Wan and Anakin going at it but without the safety of the memes.
I honestly had those vibes and never expected anyone else to XD
SAME HERE and it was painful as hell, i run switchglaive as 2nd so i used that…
Literally a WAY better antagonist than that Kelley edgelord.
Antagonist, former hero, somewhat antivillain, redempted at the end... I like he is not just an antagonist or a hero.
Do you have any idea how accurately you two just described that dude... yep dude is the best I got at the moment. Ghost of Tsushima is taking up most of my head space right now.
Ma hart may soul
Yes! Possesed friend > mean pos with spare bodies
He isn’t the antagonist, Otakemaru is...
This song brought out some heavy emotions. I went into this fight HATING him, but that sad song spoke volumes this storyline wasn't meant to be taken that way. Or so I see it.
I went in sad to the first fight. When he killed my Remilia, THEN I stormed Daigoji temple steaming. But the music there and the things he said when you destroy the crystals had me questioning shizz. Then after I beat Yokai Tokichiro I just felt like a colossal douche bag.
This and fighting shibata katsuie
The best theme for Hideyoshi in any portrayal I've heard. Ambitious, truly majestic but also with a tragic undertone. Perfectly encapsulates what we know of him as a historical figure.
Despite all things he did I'll forever despise him for the invasion of Korea and the execution of poor Komahime...blood of that innocent 14 year old girl will forever be on his hands.
Friends make for the best antagonists. As you go through the story with them, you already know their motivation, their ambitions and their dreams. Two people walking the same path that now stand at a crossroad. It's a ''So it has to be this way'' moment. After the deed is done, there's no hate, they already understand one another.
Although Tokichiro was already possessed by that point, it was still an amazing boss fight. He's a great character all the way through.
This OST hits really hard
The entire franchise is "try not to cry" over and over
I think this song is so good at conveying the feeling that we're not only fighting a video game character called Tokichiro; that We're actually fighting , and we also are Toyotomi Hideyoshi, the second great unifier. We're living history itself. It feels so larger than life. The song feels half tragic and sad that it has come to this between Tokichiro and Hide, but also heroic and triumphant 4:11 as, despite the circumstances, this is closest Japan has been united in the last 100 years.
The soundtrack alone is reason enough to buy this game in my opinion
Suddenly listening to this and got the urge to replay the game all over again.
Finished the main game yesterday and I literally cried after beating him, thinking about the inevitable throughout the entire last level and the events that brought us to this. I hated him for what happens to Oichi but ultimately after he told his story I understood how tragic of a character he was. For me the story ends there, with my friend finally at ease. Fuck... I cry again xD
Really love this track, and the Mujina soulcore against our old buddy works wonders :p
Victoryfraud very interesting....🤔🤔🤔🤔
My favorite soundtrack from the game, then its the interim, Nagasama, and the Sohaya soundtracks.
Don’t forget katsuie shibata ost. It’s great 😊
@@shuten2904 shuten doji theme is amazing too
@@lulu-pd4ps I could just play this on repeat haha
@@lulu-pd4ps shuten doji my favorite boss design
This fight lowkey broke my heart a little and then at the end had a great payoff, i like how human the story is midst all its supernatural themes
I wish i could've warned you about Otakemaru trying to possess you, but... I have MPS.
*Mute*
*Protagonist*
*Syndrom*
I think the protag is actually mute in universe. They never say anything nor is it implied they ever say anything.
@@likessox92 They indirectly say at the beginning that they've taken a vow of silence which is never gone into at all and was honestly a pretty flimsy justification for having them not talk.
The protagonist was stabbed in the throat by Otakemaru as a kid.
@@memeg8076 Wouldn't that also mean that the characters' battle grunts should either not come out at all or come out whispy due to the fact that he's got a damaged windpipe? At the same time that wouldn't make any sense considering our guy is an immortal yokai that can come back from death so wouldn't the damaged windpipe be healed?
@@megasoniczxx I think the throat wound theory is the closest we will get to a canon explanation. The loud in-game grunts and screams are an inconsistency, but they're there for dramatic effect more than anything. It's possible that Hide CAN speak, but was simply never taught or trained how to, since they possibly lost their mother while they were still too young before growing up alone in the wilds. Then again, Hide can still read Tokichiro's letter in the beginning just fine, so if their mother had time to teach them that, but not actual speech, then I've no clue.
Omg this game! And the soundtrack!
Tokichiro AKA Toyotomi Hideyoshi has a sick boss theme. Shame he went mad.
Screw Kashin Koji for taking away my friend, and brother in arms.
I was legit sad when I had to kill him
"So this is it, then? You're really leaving?"
ahhh I love his face when he says that is so sad ):
Tokichiro T_T
the best part of this boss is that he reacts if you use yokai shift
a lot of characters and bosses do, it's pretty cool.
Amazing OST to fight your former friend with. Story is not what I look for in Nioh, but this was certainly a high point in the narrative.
This is perfect!!! Been looking for an extension of his theme!! Thank you!
Awesome music, awesome bossfight
Tokichiro is the 1st boss I didn't even think about summoning friends or yokai shift (except burst counter). I felt like we need to finish this one on one only. And the theme completely got me in the vibe. First I expected the battle music to be ominous or evil. It turned out to be rather sad. It was so good. It was an honorable fight.
I Yokai shifted on him. I felt it’s what my character would’ve done. All who stand before him will fall, and he must make an example of would-be tyrants.
But when the English VA for tochikirio proclaimed in a desperate or sad voice “you’re using that power on me?!” It just broke my heart and I regretted it.
Neat little story that adds character to a playthrough.
Can you imagine?
3rd dlc, Otakemaru 2nd phase.
You're about to die when tokichiro spirit comes to the rescue.
You both draw your blades, manifest your spirits, and shout together:
*"We are Hideyoshi !!!"*
0:20
Would have been great to see Hideyoshi United just one more time.
@@Twisted_Tempest And then the final optional mission comes around, and you get to do JUST that.
You get to kill Nightmare Bringer with him as many times as you want.
I legit cried. He even has unique dialogue for it.
@@ariannadravis3934 I just started the 3rd dlc, so now I'm extra hyped.
@@Twisted_Tempest Oh, pc or ps4? Cuz i'd love to help!
@@ariannadravis3934 PS4 :)
The protagonist and tokichiro is like best friend to each other and they've been through alot of thing until this and when both of them fighting with each other this music suit perfectly lol
Magnifique musique, l'une des plus belle du jeu à mon sense 🤩
Best action game ever made
I can feel Tokichiro's ambition in this BGM.
Tokichiro: You are as strong as before, hiddey... but I cannot lose here!
Hands down the best one
Well great, now I'm sad
Nioh 2 beats wo long 9 times outta 10 imo ....I still play nioh 2 ...I beat wo long once and stopped after
It's hard to top this game. Even Team Ninja themselves can't do it, lol
I miss my stipid monkey friend
Hope you don’t mind me copying my comment from another upload of this song:
One of the things I absolutely loved this fight for, alongside the story behind it, is the call forwards in his moveset towards the Toyotomi Hodeyori fight in Nioh 1’s Bloodshed’s End dlc, specifically his occasional use of fire and lightning embedded into his swords.
Not at all.
2:13 badass
Yeah he was way better than mr.edward edge from Nioh 1 lol.
"There is only a limited ammount of Amrita you can extract from THIS country, Kelley."
Thanks for the uploads, man!
awesome intro for an epic OST!
Hmmm, so many people played as female protaginist
2:12 Epic
I still think Nioh 1 has better story, characters, boss and character designs, level beauty, etc. but damn does Nioh 2 triumph in gameplay and music over Nioh 1 without a doubt. No competition there.
Myself yelling "Tokichiro! You were my greatest friend!"
I really wish i could have hugged him in the end, i feel like he deserved a little more love after being possessed for 80% of the game. Also more backstory, i know he had it tough since the start
amazing dude
when i fought tokichiro i pretty use the same weapon setup: he use one katana i also use one katana.
he use dual swords, i also used dual swords XD
❤️
anybody know what song plays in cherry blossom viewing in daigo. Would love to get that song
Daigoji Temple. I've uploaded it previously.
@@mortalkombatfan786 thank you for you reply
what song when tokichiro meet nobunaga ,oichi and lady no in owari plz?
I've always felt that the story in Nioh assumes a level of innate knowledge about Japanese history that falls flat for audiences outside Japan. In Nioh 2, the biggest issue with the story is that Tokichiro goes from being your bestie to a mad dog that must be put down in like one mission, you're just totally blindsided by this plot twist that comes out of nowhere. That's probably because the game assumes you know the history of Toyotomi Hideyoshi already, so you know why and how he turned into a villain.
If you read the Character Directory and take into account the amount of time the story spans, you can reasonably fill in the gaps with next to no prior knowledge.
Someone didn’t read the character directory
:(
this game has at least SOME good songs.
When you and your best friend fight over the same girl
sadly enough, as good at it was, your character not speaking ruins the emotion because Toki's talking all emotional and your characters just does stupid faces in every emotional cutscene XD