Jocko Podcast 372: Figure Out The Framework, The Rules, and The Objectives... Then Play THE GAME
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
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The final episode of the "Life is a Game" series. The framework, the rules, the objectives. Answering more questions.
Join the conversation on Twitter/Instagram: @jockowillink @echocharles
i just finished med school. i was a drug addict for nearly the entirety of the last decade. i have no friends that are NOT addicted to drugs. i'm sober for 3 years now but staying home with my fiance and playing video games together are our only daily entertainment that does not involve drugs or drinking. she is also in med school. not to mention i've recently started working out thanks to inspiration i gained from jocko's words. video games have helped keep my wits about me, video games have kept my puzzle solving abilities sharp in every aspect of life, and my surgery professors have praised my hand-eye coordination which i attribute to video games. i love playing games. out of all the different types of podcasts i've listened to over the years only jocko's has put the "take action" mindset into me. i hope to meet jocko in person one day.
Video games can be a decent training tool. 👌
Any tool has to be accompanied by the right mindset to harvest anything from the exercise.
I always figure if I die in airsoft I probably died in reality haha 😄
However, most battles in life arnt won by skill or determination, but what people call luck...which I prefer to call grace.
Without God's grace we wouldn't have fertilized our mothers egg.
You keep up the good work my friend and don't be afraid of trying new things as well.
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Video games are actually an amazing way to distract from other vices.
Indoctrination by Jocko is battle proven. Normal American here. This is the culture I'm buying into. With a stomp of my origin main boot, and a hand on heart salute. God bless America.
Ok guys we just heard about Sir Echo Charles Superpower; Being nice to people. God how I love this man. Whish we were brothers. Respect Sir Charles, respect.
I love these episodes with Jocko and Echo. This was a great series! 🙏🏻❤
Aaaahhh, I'm still listening to 371! Just want to say thanks though. Much appreciated Mr. Willink.
Sometimes I literally say to myself "What would Jocko do?"
Ong
Same. "Shut up and do what you're supposed to do."
Me too.. 😂
Smart man
Me too
Very cool…very insightful…more of this is what we need as a society…level headed real talk
“Good Evening”, loving the these last 3 episodes, well actually, love them all, but really digging The Game episodes!
“There is fortitude in the multiple of councils “ Ecclesiastical proverb
Remember Echo gets his gains from muffins with Carrot shards🥕… we now need a Molk powder that mimics echos favorite carrot shard muffins.
Please somebody get a meme of Jocko crocheting blankets for his crochet business 😂
Another Game Episode? Awesome!
Great Podcast series on the game! Many life changing lessons to take on and implement each day! Thanks Jocko and Echo!
Now it’s done for the first time, but to be done was the beginning. I need to continue and this is to be in movement, to change the strategy. You know the aim … 👍👍🤞🤞🤩🤩🤩👍
1:52:43 Echo Charles putting his life in danger 😂
Fuckin buzzer beater hahaha
You guys are amazing, bless.
From now until I draw my last breath, teensy carrot pieces = “carrot shards”
I used video games to quit heroin, that is how addictive video games are, I had to chose which I loved more, video games may have saved my life, I play like an hour a day now but was playing 10 hours plus, hooked, online multi-player shooters, now it's just like watching TV, do for an hour to have some youthful fun
Wow that is interesting. I like elden ring
One of the things mentioned about having only so many chances at re-boot reminded me of 'takes 7 years to master something, you have 11 chances if you start at 11 and live to 88'. Now I won't claim if that is true or not, just something I heard somewhere, but I like the spirit of it.
Yes sir chase away that first impulse ego perceptions am learning to pay attention to that
EMPATHY N SYMPATHY. LIFT UP OR ENABLE always dissect it n digest situations
You may not win but don’t get choked out is advancement
The podcast series on the Game was what I needed to hear as I am looking to get lean an strong...
For game theory, best reference is Howard Raiffa, The Art and Science of Negotiation. Harvard press.
Instead of quitting your teaching/military job, why not stay within the company and switch positions? Like for a teacher, there are dozens of admin opportunities you can transition to and keep or get a higher salary.
Same with military, literally dozens of opportunities for you to make a change but not necessarily quit.
Plenty of ways to keep your retirement and satisfy that need for growth.
Tekken 1, damn. Nostalgia hitting hard.
Echo has the long game stories hahaha
This shit is GOLD thanks 🙏 fellas
All of Heaven rejoices with just one soul saved. Be careful to be nice to strangers, we never know when we are entertaining an angel. Or a devil. Sometimes we should be thankful for what didnt happen. There is a roaring lion looking for who he may devour. We are to be sober and vigilant
Bicepman reigns supreme with his overdeveloped XXXL Biceps and his eye-to-eye loving stare at a trained squared-jaw killer.
Agree . Everyone needs a break. To much to loss .
We alcohol numb that little voice our voice of reason n logic our consciousness yes sir
Great series, Jocko!
BTW, the new "spitballs" is Zoom Bombing and Kahoot Boting.
Dang. Today I learn that Echo Charles is a gangster. 😆
What is your BATNA? BEST ALTERNATIVE TO A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT?
There is darkness in all of us read JUNGS SHADOW. No shadow no light sir
Jocko is a real gamer
JOCKO evolving adjustments
When you help others it benefits everyone and if you, yourself ever needed help the people you helped may return that help to you in return and keep the chain going.
YOOOOOOO THANKS BIG FELLAS ✌️
what's the beneficial difference between the joint warfare, and super krill. don't they do the same thing?
Yes sir a team that competes in practice you want that human next to you GAME TIME !!!
Burning bridges is a tool I use frequently to maintain the peace in my life. There are some people I simply do not want around.
Finally I'm first.
I still have to go back and listen to the other ones in this series, but still. :))
Getting after it.
Respect from Romania 🇷🇴
Seems your second lol
@@dougmacneil6305 no way. First comment. I'm first. :)) seriously though, I'm following Jocko for 4 years now. And this is the first time I've seen the comment section empty.
@@legionarulsquad6676 A fella almost has to be beside him and wait for the upload lol
@@dougmacneil6305 I would very much like that.
@@legionarulsquad6676 CJ was before you by 2 minutes, it says it, refresh. yours is 2 minutes behind his. Also sorting by new reveals all the adult comments.... protips
Thanks… understood
Is there ever a time you have invested too much to make a change and it's butter to stick it out? Only if you don't believe that you are the key to any success you had. The moment you decide to stick it out in something you don't like is the moment you start wasting your life.
There is a point in the four part series that tried to explain the events that occured in sequence over 2007 and 2008. In which the financial crisis eventually played itself out, and catastrophes either happened or catastrophes were avoided. Depending on your point of view. A point in that in which a junior assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury Hank Paulson explained something that the Secretary had said at one point. Paulson said to him, when the situation changes, you have to be willing to change with the situation. It was one of those sentences in that documentary series I hadn't viewed since it came out a decade ago. Which echoes through all of those years, and it still rings some sort of bell. It describes what Paulson's view of the problem at that point was. Versus what his view changed to, not long after that.
Not long after that, Paulson came to the opinion. Either that, or someone else helped him to arrive at the opinion. That himself and his team could not continue to just fight these crises on a 'case by case' basis. At some point, they had to come up with some answer that wasn't customized or tailored to fit the needs of one. It would have to 'fit all'. That is what eventually happened. However, not before that team had attempted for several rounds in this battle, to try to address each situation as an individual entity. As a unique thing to be solved, before moving on to the next. When Victor Davis Hanson was talking about 'The Second World War' he explained. The 'First World War' had been known in those years between both wars, as not the 'First World War' (the second hadn't happened yet). The First World War had simply been called 'The Great War'. Sort of like 'The Great Depression'. There was no equal to it, and many hoped their never would be again. That was a phrase that crept into the documentary about the financial crisis numerous times. One economist raised the question, was Hank Paulson or one of those actors who were there, presiding over the begining of the 'Second Great Depression'? There was a point in it, in the same manner as Victor Davis Hanson explained. When all of the random, un-connected events that happened. The Polish conflict, the Czech conflict, the French invasion and so on. There was some point in all of that sequence (where people were trying to look at things on a 'case by case' basis). Where abruptly someone decided that it could not continue. They simply had to find a 'one size fits all' way in which to look at things. Dealing with it on a case by case basis, did not work any longer.
Growing up and listening to the chat in countries like Ireland (Ireland was another subject that came up in a documentary about America and it's financial crisis). Because literally at the same time as institutions that were massive in America were going to the wall. There were 'small countries' being taken down by the sequence of events at the same time, and in other parts of the globe. This crisis did not descriminate between what was an institution or a small country. It just said casually, we'll have whatever is going. It was the crisis that was 'all in' the game. It had put in all of it's chips, and there was no backing out. The blame in Ireland at that same time was being aimed at the Civil Servants believe it or not. A professional, job or occupation which never attracted any publicity or attention from media. There was simply no way to make the CIvil Service interesting enough, so that it became the subject of 'prime time' news and media. In 2008, that changed and in countries like Ireland. Things were said like, the problem with the Civil Service is that it's filled with talented generalists. People who entered the Service, instead of getting a qualification and a specialism. The Civil Servants were people who were trained within the job. The model used to construct the Irish Civil Service after the 'war of independence' in 1923, a hundred years ago. Was literally the model of the British armed services of that era in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century period. And by 2008, that had suddenly come into focus. That was suddenly and for some reason, the whole problem.
An hour and fifteen minutes into episode 372, Jocko and Echo Charles talk about competition. In another context and giving it another name, systems of competition (which in turn depend on systems of performance measurement that are accurate, repeatable and reliable), are called systems of accountability. In the crisis of 2008, that was the thing that people feared the most. Apart from the obvious thing, there might not indeed be any 'bottom' floor to this crisis. We just continued it seemed to lunge from one thing to the next, and realize there were entire new 'basement' levels to the depths it could plunge to. It is the main reason why eventually, the 'one size fits all' approach became favorable over any other. It seemed as though for every heroic feat of leadership and crisis resolution that Hank Paulson and his colleagues could perform. Something even worse came along, that made the last isolated crisis event seem like small change. This was a lot more than kicking the hornet's nest. This was the invasion of the killer bees. The diaster movie about local city politics in New Orleans, and the resistance of the Mayor of the city to grapple with the impeding doom that was about to fall on them. In some ways it was about killer bees, but the seventies movie might have predicted something that would happen to New Orleans for real. Not many years after that.
The text that I always like to refer to was Daniel Goleman and his published work about Leadership. In the early 2010's when I started to write my dissertation about the construction industry, I had hoped to develop on it. In the space afforded by a few ten thousand words. Only that, when I consulted the actual 'primary research' literature on psychology. I understood then, it wasn't as exciting as the paperback novel I had read by Goleman. What Goleman had actually done, was to extract the best things from decades of reading reports and conference procedings. That weren't that interesting or exciting at all. What they were was accurate research, that dealt with small aspects of the problem. And together, all of the research if one spent the time to become familiar with it. And that required a lot of time and work. It required endurance. One may be able to draw a few useful conclusions that were applicable in real life. I listened to Jordan Peterson on an extract piece of footage, speaking to Joe Rogan. One of the thorny aspects of leadership psychological training and study, is the aspect to do with 'visionary' leadership. And I thought in that five minutes piece of footage of Jordan Peterson talking about an absence of visionary leadership in conservative politics. He dealt with the subject as good as you could deal with it. Making the topic interesting for that five minutes. The reality though, is that anything that Daniel Goleman or Jordan Petersen talk about. Conceals the reality that both have invested lifetimes doing a lot of very laboriou and tedious work. There is just no way around that.
That is so to speak 'the bad news' about leadership psychology and it's study. There are no easy short cuts to the truth or to describing what happens in leadership situations in real life. The other aspect of leadership that Goleman described really well, was the need to 'benchmark' oneself (to set some target to achieve, and then measure one's progress in relationship to the destinated goal or end state that one hoped to arrive at). There is something very arbitrary about any of these goals or targets. There is a point beyond which, their usefulness to guide us along the right path, begins to diminish. And at a certain point in all of it, when taken to the extreme condition. The use of goal-setting in leadership becomes downright corrupt and counter-productive. It becomes the kind of game that Jocko and Echo Charles suggest, one has to be aware of. Am I in this game, and do I need to be? Is it serving me, or am I serving it? How do I feel about that? And even that, in my view (coming at it from the point of view of leadership studies, related to the construction industry). Having seen practically all of that landscape from the officer level, down to the foot soldier, and lots of levels in between those two extremes. The one that Jocko explains, he was guarded about. What Daniel Goleman describes as being 'the consensus builder' can be one of the worst mistakes of all. When taken too far.
YES SIR How I trained my daughter ASSISTS ASSISTS. FEED YOUR TEAMMATES go eat when it’s NEEDED ⚽️
I was told that there was a must see series ( I think it was called " Prison Break ) and that my neighbour had bought the dvd series, which she offered to me for my viewing. I thought Ok game on. Watched all the DVDs she lent to me, on one weekend. Sunday evening I went to give her the DVDs and she said I could take the 2nd series . I was shocked 😳😲...say what there is more? No, no no. That's it I'm done, never watched another series again. 😁
I expected Echo's anecdote was going to end with him having the nickname Curly.
I love how echo says he doesn’t understand why video games are popular and then waxes poetically for five minutes about his history of video games
video games are popular cause most dudes are losers now. I play video games, I feel like a loser the whole time.
Jocks Hoot mitts😂❤
Jockos Hot mitts hahah
Good evening
Basically enjoy the journey between the dashes..
Pros cons on all habits. Good or bad or what we perceive as good or bad I love organized chaos yes sir or NOTHING. 🤷♂️
"alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems " Homer Simpson
Nature n nurture. Depends how the child was programed. Why I guide my seed not program
As a parent do that with your kids. The stuff he made deployed. Use Barbies I did. We had a basketball team football army etc
I found out in NAVY i am A DEVILS ADVOCATE and every organization needs a few
2:05:57 I understand the point you’re making, but the Mac is an Apple product. Get it right, Jocko.
1:52:23 🤔
1:45:47 Bingo. Echo. The lesson…😏
Lol 😂. Great voice lol I did that voice all the time to officers then my guys Flight deck respected i had them
Zero accolades no promotion BUT I knew they knew I WON
I'm not sure if you heard him. All jokes aside, The mechanic just asked the cook; Who did your hair today? General Electric?
Seriously avoid soda make that your treat man what a buzz lol we do that. Once u get that treat it’s like baaam
New construction rough in’s are fun in row housing been there in jersey. I just walked on asking to learn. We got cash. I sux Ed at it I ask WHY TO MUCH DROVE EM NUTS all of em. Or my WHAT IF QUESTIONS also pissed em off I joined the NAVY LMAO
Cue Triple H’s classic Theme song
Jocko was definitely talking about TikTok when he said he didn’t want to work with the company
“ you can make mistakes, just try to not make the big ones” -pop
EChO here's an encyclopedia you should invest in if you didn't have an opportunity to hands on learn any and all household project and more
It's " The Family Handyman do it yourself Encyclopedia
🤙🏾🇺🇸🦅
Big up CJ 😎
“WHERES THAT WHEAT GRASS”
Yeees JESS POD CAST YOUR JOUNEY WOOO all of it get real on RUclips people need u kid
Best advice get out of others shadow or plural
Tim Tebow on you tube mad support virtual village JESS MUCH LOVE
Can we speak with jacko individually?
Imagine if all we knew about Jockman were two seconds 2:20:06 - 2:20:07 played in 0.5x speed. #jockman_has_jokes #jockmans_wife_rules_the_dinner_table
Yea I quit drinking I was NO GOOD AT IT
Rule of thumb is you need to be in the job you want to retire in by 50.
When I watch the podcast. "I make the screen even darker"
Only pisses people off if your CORRECT lol 😂. Sports teaches folks to lose or it should. Adversity is OPPORTUNITY. WHAT A CHANCE
Papa Johns suck ! Local shops always stomp !
When i was 14 i told to my dad life is just like a game. and my dad said that was dumb.
best pizza in San Diego is Bronx's pizza. its not even close. come on fellas.
On the portnoy scale anything about an 8 is top tier. None have been above a 9 I don’t believe and that’s after hundreds of pizzas shops.
Dealing with a completely useless boss, doesn’t take ownership and fobs his mistakes onto us, and his higher ups don’t see it, I get on with my work and try to help the team, but he just causes a negative atmosphere and brings the day down
Try to play the game, and gain influence on things to help everyone, but he listens to nobody, advice would be appreciated
better in gradients better pizza
The Path has a name, its Jesus
Gotta chew our food sir that is where it is digested the mouth enzymes digest food people eat like dogs n die as such sir meaning 7 years earlier at least
Imagine a navy lands n burns its ships that is pants pooping time lol if it’s your beach
Or you can be a MASTER debater . And play with ourselves. SORRY SIR SLIPS OUT sometimes
I call it "doing time" I have 13 years left
Is that GEEEK ?
I believe COVID. n Eike culture has a say in troops beating feet sir
Woke
I still in 2023 literally still say secretly to my self...what would, Xena Do?
((Big Breath!?))
-Omaha, Nebraska
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I realize I sound ignorant. That’s ok FOOKIN Make Yea think 🤔 some are no good at it the thinking stuff
Gotta go check on homework and am DUMB no clue but yet if she can’t teach me which I won’t pay attention anyway . But she knows when she is at school she got a big dumby to teach . She is in the HONOR ROLL my dumb helps sir. My GAME IS COMPLICATED SIR
I love you Jocko, but...
...you are wrong.
👎 ⛔
Life is not a game.
Life is a dance.💃
How's your rhythm?
☯️
Funny
Many hats t masks 🎭 to wear civilian life you gotta be a actor as I see. U gotta smell the shit and ignore it. I learned this the hard way
Glad I sux at video games
WWJD✌😎
This game is not for casuals bro.
Burn the ur ships never a bridge lol 😂