I've never met Jocko before but apparently he knows what happens to me when i drink. He's right again. 100% 15 days sober now. This is gonna be a battle.
You got this brother, don’t let the devil’s substance take over your life, I was the same way and I lost everything but now life is so much better without it
Try kratom " if legal I'm your state " it completely eliminated my desire to drink. Not even a cold beer after work. Been 5 years. There are some consequences to daily kratom use so you gotta decide what level of damage control you are committing too.
I drank through high school, all through college. After graduating at age 22 to age 30, I hit the gym every single day, for years and years. In high-school and college I could recover from the hangovers and still lift weights the following day. After college graduation those recoveries became harsher and harsher, until at age 30....i quit drinking alcohol totally, and never looked back. I'm 50 now and am so grateful that I had the foresight to remove that poison from my life, before the long term health issues that alcohol brings with it, had a chance to negatively affect me. Alcohol is by far the most destructive drug mankind has ever known.
I drank for a while when I got to Germany back in '89, realized how much money I was wasting on it, and stopped. I was 20 when the idea occurred to me I could be building a cool car with that money instead of literally pissing it away... Then the Gulf War started and I barely had time to sleep and eat, so it was REAL easy to not spend money then. I didn't drink in high school, didn't really get drunk very often, just a beer or two while lifting in my room. Got a buzz and stopped, it made me sleep better but also gave me a belly.
Amen. Opiates, and meth is right there with it, if not worse in many ways. But, I digress…. Keep it all out of your life, and your life will be INFINITELY better off….no matter who you are. 👍
I'm 76yrs old. Former military, Viet Nam Vet, ex hard core biker and all around BTDT. In experience and opinion, alcohol has ruined so many lives, families, marriages and careers that it staggers my mind it's still legal. I quit in 1981 and changed my life. Your opinion may vary.
Knowing that I have an addictive personality is what kept me from ever trying heroin and meth. Was not a humble brag for me, it was a fact that kept me away from many bad situations.
It’s beautiful podcast and incredible individuals ( human beings) and definitely they are telling just as like 🥰 I was actually smiling 🙂 and laughing throughout this conversation! More beautiful individuals like these two are needed more in the world and humanity today! Stay peace and blessings everyone S-The Free
The grocery shopping on an empty stomach segment was freaking hilarious, particularly when Echocharles made the comment as soon as you eat something you question why did I buy all this crap and if Jocko simply drank a Molk he would have been good to go for a sensible grocery run as we've all been there. Never thought a podcast would be one of only a few things in life that make me smile. Jocko and Echocharles provide the perfect balance of wisdom and entertaining humor.
Jocko is speaking the truth. I'm 53 and loved a drink, I was good at it and a happy drunk. I dont regret my party years, but now it isn't fun any more. I haven't had a drink for 5 years now, I'm eating clean and working out. I feel great. However I'm going back to the UK( my home) in a month and I'm dreading it, some of my friends are alcoholics now, or drug users. Some aren't here anymore, and the ones who are, are sick and depressed. I don't want to get sucked back into that life, just to be 'One of the lads' . There comes a point when it stops being fun and becomes something you cant live without.
Bro, you got this!. Stay strong. If it takes you drinking to be one of the lads, do you really want to be with lads that think of it that way? I remember when I told my bros who were also my drinking buddies, I was nervous on how they would react. Without failure, all of them understood and supported me. Those are true friends who are willing to support you in your decisions to be a better person. My two cents my man. Best wishes Stephen!
To thine own self be true! Stay true to what you have accomplish and most genuine people will be happy for you. I got sober through AA over 5 years ago and I LOVE attending meetings every place I travel!
Just plain truth. You are so ground floor real and speak my military language. Your experiences elevate you in the minds of military vets because we all joined to be you but very few reached your accomplishments. What makes your insight impactful to me is you have compassion but demand personal responsibility. Your advice is there and your encouragement but clearly your message is own your shit. Hard truth but I can receive it as you put it. Thanks man.
Before I finished my 6 years in the military, I just decided to essentially stop drinking. Now, I may have 6 beers in the course of a year. I’m not sure why, but I just didn’t feel like doing it anymore. I feel very lucky that that I could do that. I know many can’t.
Resisting peer pressure is also a great way to find out who your real friends are and who has your back. Your friends will give you some good natured ribbing, but will ultimately knock it off and respect your decision. Your "friends" who really don't have your back will actually get upset when you don't do what they want or give in to the pressure. Observe and remove those people from your life.
I quit drinking about 2 and some change years ago and it's been the best thing that's ever happened to me. It cost me an engagement to someone who loved me and gave me everything. She did everything I wanted and I loved her back. Alcohol made me someone I'm not. Losing her is what I think about every time I think about drinking and it makes me not want to that much more. I try to tell people about how much my life improved when I stopped drinking. If you have to drink, don't drink alot. It changes you. Thank you for the podcast yall.
After basic... I had the mentality of, "I'm now government property and I will do what is needed", combined with a 'work hard, play hard' attitude. Drinking was a major part of it to the point, when I got to my tech school, I got an Arty 15 before graduating. That set the precedence for the rest of my time in service. I was overlooked for every recognition of my performance, regardless if I graduated phase two of my training as an honor student. Even after receiving numerous letters of recognition during my service. The result was every medal I was nominated for, the Arty 15 kept those from happening... all because I did some dumb shit.
I’m coming up on 4 years of sobriety. I did a lot of dumb sh*t along the way. My first 12 step meeting was when I was 17 years old after rehab. I continued to eventually Drink my way out of the Marine Corps unfortunately. I’ll tell you what I’ve learned as it pertains to your podcast and the principles you promote. Aa gave me a chance to not die. It gave me a chance to play the game again. The principles I’ve decided to use to outline of how I live,found primarily in extreme ownership, teach me how to win. Sobriety is life or death. It’s no joke. It’s a million good decisions destroyed by one bad one. It’s a constant battle and the enemy, my disease, is off in the corner doing push-ups waiting for me to slip. Then it will take everything in my life away first, isolate me and kill me slow. It’s for keeps. Every single day. Let’s say sobriety is the UFC. Aa was like taekwondo. I’m for sure as shit not getting into that cage with just that. The principles you teach are the rest of the martial arts I need to compete in that arena and not die. I can’t begin to tell you what has happened in my life since trying to take my life 7 years ago while drinking. I am forever in your debt for giving me an outline that keeps me alive. I live an amazing life today and I grind every single to stay in the fight. Thank you. Thank you for continuing to give me a place to listen and to hear what I need to to stay alive. Mr Charles…thank you. Thank you for giving me an example of how to handle it last year when I tore my bicep. You gentlemen have no idea how important what you’re doing is. Sincerely Thank you
I like when they talk like each other every once in a while. Or when a guests words are borrowed. Eg. “Get that hitter.” This team is one of the podcast GOATs fo sho…. ~Jocko 3 stripe white
Same thing I used to say to people I trained . "Don't be shit, if you find yourself in a shit situation take a step back, have a juice box and make less shitty decisions"
This was me 100% I'd get pissed drunk every weekend and fight everything that moved. I thought maybe it was just a proponent of just being in the military but it happened even after getting out. Been sober for 3 years now after having this realization that I cannot consume in moderation.
I'm with you on the moderation, bro having one drink at a social dinner or something is like diffusing a bomb. could be innocent could be the gates of hell opening. soda water for me
@jocko, This LITERALLY my platoon motto when I went to Iraq on my last tour in ‘08-09. These wise words were the last ones spoken at EVERY leaders meeting with SFC Richard Moore. And guess what happened, it became such a mantra engrained across the platoon that we as a whole would make smarter decisions both on the battlefield and back on the FOB.
I literally fucked up last night. I'm on probation and I can't drink beer. I decided to drink some beer last night and drive to go TRY to meet some girls. And got pulled over and my car impounded and sat in jail and spent all my money to bail out .I'm dead in the game Jocko. Or at least beat up
So make better choices beginning right this second. Don’t throw the good that’s left in the future out with the bad in the past. Even if it’s 5 minutes ago, it might as well be a thousand years ago because the past is already history. The great thing is that applies to the good choices too, once you’ve accomplished them. Once they’re carried out, no one can take them away from you.
I was on drugs for 10 years got on a treatment program for 3 years so far and I've became addicted to fitness just like you mentioned. I definitely have an addictive personality I would say
As one of my higher ups told me once: "One 'oh shit' will take away a thousand 'atta-boys." True, to some extent, but not so much when speaking spirituality: doing the right thing is mighty powerful despite "the financial path" ~ fact
I think in regards to smoking or doing "negative" things in general, people tend to take things to excess. When others are in the moment, they don't always have the best judgment. In some regards to the use of things such as cigarettes, I think some people use it as a means of escape for a short amount of time to be able to deal with life in general. I think if there were more honest conversations on what brings others to choose various methods of "escape", we might have a better indicator of how to better prevent people from doing "dumb things"
As a Southerner, all the west coast lingo is hilarious. Echo - "....yeah, but is that your jammy -jam?" In reference to Jockos love for a cool Kit Jat was pretty funny.
Awesome as always, deeply appreciated. Would love to see you guys bring on Brian Alsruhe - I believe his incredibly difficult life journey, counter-terrorist background, his "suffer beatifully" mentality and also, training intensity mindset would go along beatifully with the nature of this podcast.
If you have an addictive personality, you know it… And trust me, there are many people who truly do. When you get hooked on every little thing that you like, even a LITTLE BIT, you have a problem. That is an addictive personality - A person who does everything to excess.
I used to do bad shit cus I literally wanted to be bad, wanted to do "fun" drugs, I was so stupid I WANTED to go to jail when I was young, wanted a life of crime, well I got my wish, 20 years ruined, took 20 years to recover, 40 and figuring out life now like Im starting from scratch...
As a prior heroin addict (a decade) and now clean (half a decade) I think Jocko is wrong here but not in the way he’d think I’m saying he is wrong. You do have an addictive personality. A rich life full of healthy addictions. And they DO run your life..The trajectory? Upwards, toward success. You’ve mastered your “addictions” and focused the knife in the right direction, to the point you don’t even realize that’s what it is. Which, if you think about it, is a beautiful thing. Doesn’t mean you sacrifice other areas of life (because the addictions are healthy!)
Recently quit a 5 year addiction to cigarettes. Pretty damn hard but possible. It all started with peer pressure into doing dumb shit. Thanks Jocko and Echo. Love you guys
Impulsive can be strategic. My grandfather got up one day to get a box of doughnuts and a part from Lowes. He came back and my grandmother asked him for the receipt so she could deduct it from the checkbook. He put the receipt and the change he had in his pocket on the kitchen table. He left went to all his banks took everyone's names off HIS accounts, closed them, cancelled the credit cards and came back with a New Lincoln Town Car. Soonly after that his son in law and daughter tried to commit him to the Park unit. That was the first time they tried to overthrow the King. STILL the BEST WARNING isn't in acts, it's in Proof. Man I would have loved to been there that day and see the look on people's face when he came up the driveway 😅 but I was enjoying the sand and the sun out West.
Switch to vaping and slowly lower the nicotine content. When you hit 0% nicotine it just tastes gross and stopping will be easy. Made me quit very easily after smoking for 11 years.
Yes sir... I turn to alcohol, and now an alcoholic... Had to go to rehab to sort out that shit....... And it maid me loos everything... Like everything... On the spot sir
Bros, this may be one of my favorite podcast from you guys. It's a simple but sometimes not easy task and this message is on point. The air of this podcast has a sense of accountability for the listeners, which I think is important. There hasn't been a lot of conversation on the pod with regards to alcohol. I am a 50 year old dude and quit drinking alcohol almost 4 years ago and now I love not drinking. It also came by accident and my story is a little long but essentially, I pro and con'd it out and I found only two pros of drinking... It tastes good and it can be pretty fun. Then, laundry list of cons was like 20+ deep. And believe me, I loved drinking. When you are pragmatic about it, the decision is clear. Drinking is dumb because noy only does it make us do dumb shit, but it doesn't improve anything in your life. Being is a sober dude has helped me in so many facets in life, and my bros that care about me, understand and support me. Understand that is just my story and no lost love for anyone who drinks, it's just not my jam. For me, it's simply not worth it. Aside from the effect of drinking, thank you for the other reasons that we do dumb shit. Thank you for hitting this straight on. I have the opinion that if you are in any position of leadership, and we all are, we need someone in our back pocket to call us out that we are doing dumb shit. Thank you for helping us to be aware of when the forces that are against us, are on the attack. The attack of us wanting to the core, to be awesome and do mostly good shit.
Been outta the army for 7 months now hell you gave me the balls to finally join on got off the path hardcore while in this my first full listen to a pod for like 2 years safe to say back to the path I go mf get some y'all forreal
So crazy that when I was in the Marine Corps, the structured life (and death runs each morning) made me have zero craving for drugs or alcohol, then when I was on my own able to do what I wanted, I lost my way. I’m a lover not a fighter when I drink, but that too is an issue when you’re in a relationship! Especially when it ends it then you have no reason not to then you Tru other shit and just feel there’s no reason to stop or care a d ne t thing you know you’ve lost everything you gave it all to earn and still don’t care and THEN your life is 2/3 gone! So fucked. It’s having goals and a structure and others ti compete against do I can pound my chest bragging.. humans, me specifically, are crazy beings.
I'm 18 so young as hell but I've had some experience. When I was 11 ish I started smoking weed. And I took Adderall. After a couple years when I turned 14 my friend steered me out of the hole I was in. The funny thing though was what he did to get me out of the cycle he just said like hey you know how bad that junk is for your brain. I mean he was a terrible ocd and a pessimistic guy at time but I'll tell you it was what I needed. Unfortunately he himself as a friend i looked up to decided hed finish where i left off smoking nic and drinking. 4 years later I'm doing great less problems less anger issues the whole thing. But man you just gotta start somewhere. For me though it was just the cold truth... anyways yall can get over it!
Drinking from my late teens until the age of 39. Drinking was so normalized in my family and friend circles and I used it to escape from the person I didn’t like being. Late teens and 20’s I did ALOT of dumb things, despite losing my license for a short period and paying the price financially for that I’m very lucky and honestly surprised that nothing more serious happened. I’m surprised that I didn’t die during one of those dumb decisions. Drinking was fun for a while, it was a way to socialize and meet new people,,,, until it became a problem and negatively affected the ones I loved most. Early on in my recovery I found jiu jitsu and joined a gym 5 minutes from my house. Jiu jitsu gave me a place to direct my energy & socialize with positive people that were into fitness and persevering through difficult things. I’m 5 years sober and my life couldn’t be better.
Like everything else in life the smoking issue is way more layered and complex, despite the ease and simplicity of "just quit" recommendations. TBH I'm a smoker, pack to 1.5 packs a day, have been over 20-years and I'd be the first to agree it's not good for me, I'd be less winded if I quit, I'd breathe better, food might taste better too. Moreover, my health and physical well-being would improve no question about it, and I don't have a wish for death and I hope I live to be 110-years-old. However, I enjoy smoking, I love the coffee and cigg combo first thing in the morning and after I eat, I enjoy lighting one up for it's own sake, I love my family and they love me and wished I'd stop, but it's something I enjoy and haven't a desire to quit; for now at least:) I could say, "well, we all die from something" or "I've smoked too long no way I could quit now" etc, etc, etc..., but I don't life's a chance and I roll with it if that makes me a bad person in this modern era then so be it, I don't know man, I don't know man, I just don't know:)
Great podcast! Talk about the Reese’s sticks and Kit Kats, hilarious! Love this channel in general for LIFE skills. I’m female & work with at risk youth in the city. Your podcasts have had positive impacts on some of my more challenging days. For this episode, my takeaways: moderation, mindfulness, and don’t do (“dumb sh!t”) things to disrespect yourself… I’ve seen a few people over the years who I lost a whole rack of respect for after seeing them (not even drunk),but after a few drinks. Perhaps because I don’t drink and never have. So I notice the slightest bit of weird behavior beyond their baseline/norm. We all have our vices but let self awareness /dignity guide your choice of vices. Peace & thanks for a great podcast.
I don't have an addictive personality, I'm highly susceptible to addiction. That sounds more honest in tone, to me. It's no fun, but can be counteracted with regular, occasionally constant, mindfulness.
The "addictive personality" thing is a cope for people too weak to control themselves... coming from a former drug addict who comes from a family of drug addicts and alcoholics
We need a non probiotic non enzyme version of Molk. I suffer in battle against an autoimmune disease that causes chronic infections from bacteria that are part of the digestive system. When I take probiotics it worsen symptoms and causes inflammation and makes me feel completely sick. MOLk is the absolute best whey protein powder I've ever had it is so tasty and effective but I wish it didn't have the probiotics and the extra stuff it does not need. Thank guys you have taught me so much and I'm a better person because of you.
Great episode. I used to think I had an addictive personality. Now I know I have one. Before the gyms closed down I was lifting 6 days a week. Thought I’d go crazy if I couldn’t workout, seemed impossible. Well, I stopped lifting and started drinking more than I ever had. I quit now and I’m back lifting nearly every day. Working on quitting kratom now. People say it’s a miracle leaf, but be careful. It’s definitely addictive.
Impulse buying things online when I'm drunk. I have had things just show up weeks later. I had to make a decision to just not go on gunbroker when I'm out, uninstalled the amazon app, and working to just not drink. I type this as I placed a bid on an auction item completely sober (I already have 2 similar models of this item)
I've never met Jocko before but apparently he knows what happens to me when i drink.
He's right again.
100%
15 days sober now.
This is gonna be a battle.
You got this brother, don’t let the devil’s substance take over your life, I was the same way and I lost everything but now life is so much better without it
If you're being disrespected, maybe it's because you haven't established yourself as being worthy of respect
Try kratom " if legal I'm your state " it completely eliminated my desire to drink. Not even a cold beer after work. Been 5 years. There are some consequences to daily kratom use so you gotta decide what level of damage control you are committing too.
I drank through high school, all through college. After graduating at age 22 to age 30, I hit the gym every single day, for years and years. In high-school and college I could recover from the hangovers and still lift weights the following day. After college graduation those recoveries became harsher and harsher, until at age 30....i quit drinking alcohol totally, and never looked back. I'm 50 now and am so grateful that I had the foresight to remove that poison from my life, before the long term health issues that alcohol brings with it, had a chance to negatively affect me. Alcohol is by far the most destructive drug mankind has ever known.
I drank for a while when I got to Germany back in '89, realized how much money I was wasting on it, and stopped. I was 20 when the idea occurred to me I could be building a cool car with that money instead of literally pissing it away... Then the Gulf War started and I barely had time to sleep and eat, so it was REAL easy to not spend money then. I didn't drink in high school, didn't really get drunk very often, just a beer or two while lifting in my room. Got a buzz and stopped, it made me sleep better but also gave me a belly.
And now here you are! Carrying on about yourself in the comment section. Narcissist.
Amen. Opiates, and meth is right there with it, if not worse in many ways. But, I digress…. Keep it all out of your life, and your life will be INFINITELY better off….no matter who you are. 👍
Not true. Research sugar.
Well put. 🤘
I'm 76yrs old. Former military, Viet Nam Vet, ex hard core biker and all around BTDT. In experience and opinion, alcohol has ruined so many lives, families, marriages and careers that it staggers my mind it's still legal. I quit in 1981 and changed my life. Your opinion may vary.
Knowing that I have an addictive personality is what kept me from ever trying heroin and meth.
Was not a humble brag for me, it was a fact that kept me away from many bad situations.
Telling it straight to our face as the mentor we’ve never had. Pure gold🙏🏼
Stop felating
@@sirelliott3753
I see you're a recovering addict from, "the devil's candy".
It’s beautiful podcast and incredible individuals ( human beings) and definitely they are telling just as like 🥰 I was actually smiling 🙂 and laughing throughout this conversation! More beautiful individuals like these two are needed more in the world and humanity today! Stay peace and blessings everyone
S-The Free
@@CHINESE_PRIDE how do you mean?
I'd like to hear for my own egotistical reasons.
@@sirelliott3753
Hey, man.... that's between you and God.
But whenever someone is pointing a finger, there's 3 more pointing right back at them.
The grocery shopping on an empty stomach segment was freaking hilarious, particularly when Echocharles made the comment as soon as you eat something you question why did I buy all this crap and if Jocko simply drank a Molk he would have been good to go for a sensible grocery run as we've all been there. Never thought a podcast would be one of only a few things in life that make me smile. Jocko and Echocharles provide the perfect balance of wisdom and entertaining humor.
Yes I listened to this on the way to Idaho for camping. Don’t do dumb shit!!
Jocko is speaking the truth. I'm 53 and loved a drink, I was good at it and a happy drunk. I dont regret my party years, but now it isn't fun any more. I haven't had a drink for 5 years now, I'm eating clean and working out. I feel great. However I'm going back to the UK( my home) in a month and I'm dreading it, some of my friends are alcoholics now, or drug users. Some aren't here anymore, and the ones who are, are sick and depressed. I don't want to get sucked back into that life, just to be 'One of the lads' . There comes a point when it stops being fun and becomes something you cant live without.
Bro, you got this!. Stay strong. If it takes you drinking to be one of the lads, do you really want to be with lads that think of it that way? I remember when I told my bros who were also my drinking buddies, I was nervous on how they would react. Without failure, all of them understood and supported me. Those are true friends who are willing to support you in your decisions to be a better person. My two cents my man. Best wishes Stephen!
@Bob Silverthorne Let's hope your right! Drinking is a big part of UK culture, and not drinking is seen as weird by most people. Thanks mate!
To thine own self be true! Stay true to what you have accomplish and most genuine people will be happy for you. I got sober through AA over 5 years ago and I LOVE attending meetings every place I travel!
Just plain truth. You are so ground floor real and speak my military language. Your experiences elevate you in the minds of military vets because we all joined to be you but very few reached your accomplishments. What makes your insight impactful to me is you have compassion but demand personal responsibility. Your advice is there and your encouragement but clearly your message is own your shit. Hard truth but I can receive it as you put it. Thanks man.
Before I finished my 6 years in the military, I just decided to essentially stop drinking. Now, I may have 6 beers in the course of a year. I’m not sure why, but I just didn’t feel like doing it anymore. I feel very lucky that that I could do that. I know many can’t.
Resisting peer pressure is also a great way to find out who your real friends are and who has your back. Your friends will give you some good natured ribbing, but will ultimately knock it off and respect your decision. Your "friends" who really don't have your back will actually get upset when you don't do what they want or give in to the pressure. Observe and remove those people from your life.
I quit drinking about 2 and some change years ago and it's been the best thing that's ever happened to me. It cost me an engagement to someone who loved me and gave me everything. She did everything I wanted and I loved her back. Alcohol made me someone I'm not. Losing her is what I think about every time I think about drinking and it makes me not want to that much more. I try to tell people about how much my life improved when I stopped drinking. If you have to drink, don't drink alot. It changes you. Thank you for the podcast yall.
Have you found a girl since
After basic... I had the mentality of, "I'm now government property and I will do what is needed", combined with a 'work hard, play hard' attitude. Drinking was a major part of it to the point, when I got to my tech school, I got an Arty 15 before graduating. That set the precedence for the rest of my time in service. I was overlooked for every recognition of my performance, regardless if I graduated phase two of my training as an honor student. Even after receiving numerous letters of recognition during my service. The result was every medal I was nominated for, the Arty 15 kept those from happening... all because I did some dumb shit.
I’m coming up on 4 years of sobriety. I did a lot of dumb sh*t along the way. My first 12 step meeting was when I was 17 years old after rehab. I continued to eventually Drink my way out of the Marine Corps unfortunately. I’ll tell you what I’ve learned as it pertains to your podcast and the principles you promote. Aa gave me a chance to not die. It gave me a chance to play the game again. The principles I’ve decided to use to outline of how I live,found primarily in extreme ownership, teach me how to win. Sobriety is life or death. It’s no joke. It’s a million good decisions destroyed by one bad one. It’s a constant battle and the enemy, my disease, is off in the corner doing push-ups waiting for me to slip. Then it will take everything in my life away first, isolate me and kill me slow. It’s for keeps. Every single day. Let’s say sobriety is the UFC. Aa was like taekwondo. I’m for sure as shit not getting into that cage with just that. The principles you teach are the rest of the martial arts I need to compete in that arena and not die.
I can’t begin to tell you what has happened in my life since trying to take my life 7 years ago while drinking. I am forever in your debt for giving me an outline that keeps me alive. I live an amazing life today and I grind every single to stay in the fight. Thank you. Thank you for continuing to give me a place to listen and to hear what I need to to stay alive. Mr Charles…thank you. Thank you for giving me an example of how to handle it last year when I tore my bicep. You gentlemen have no idea how important what you’re doing is. Sincerely Thank you
Semper Fi Brother. One day at a time. 42yrs sober.
One Day At A Time {forver}
Congrats on 4 years. I'm coming up on 5. Us alcoholics in AA insist on enjoying life...we are not a glum lot. Here's to being happy, joyous and free.
Echo, I agree with your smoking example, too! Smoking a cigarette is the worst thing I've ever done, and I've done a lotta dumb shit!
Best thing I have ever done was quite drinking! My wife has never seen me have a drink. I told her if she ever sees me drink, run!!
Great advice!
young folks should be shown these podcast
Jocko, Echo, thank you. Specifically for this video.
Headin to PT. Marine Corps DEP. 4:30 right now. Go get some!
I like when they talk like each other every once in a while. Or when a guests words are borrowed. Eg. “Get that hitter.” This team is one of the podcast GOATs fo sho….
~Jocko 3 stripe white
I didn’t know it was dumb before I did it😅
Man.... LOL.
"WRONG" (in trumps voice).... YOU ALWAYS SAY YOU WERE DRUNK; AS YOUR EXCUSE.........
Same thing I used to say to people I trained . "Don't be shit, if you find yourself in a shit situation take a step back, have a juice box and make less shitty decisions"
This is exactly the topic I needed to guide my in my current life scenario. Thank you for the podcast
Your carcs9unds like facts coward
I know you Breen me
It's called "spirits" for a reason.
41:00 Respond to your emotions. Do not react to them! I have to tell myself this all the time! Thank you both so much for all that you do.
This was me 100% I'd get pissed drunk every weekend and fight everything that moved. I thought maybe it was just a proponent of just being in the military but it happened even after getting out. Been sober for 3 years now after having this realization that I cannot consume in moderation.
I'm with you on the moderation, bro having one drink at a social dinner or something is like diffusing a bomb. could be innocent could be the gates of hell opening. soda water for me
Done lots of dumb shit in hindsight. Dodged a lot of bullets but caught a few too..............lessons learned.
Thank God.
Most relatable episode ever. I needed to hear this.
Every time I went against my Gut Instinct
....it turned out to be Dumb S***
Tony?😳👽us 1 north. Omfg ily
@jocko, This LITERALLY my platoon motto when I went to Iraq on my last tour in ‘08-09. These wise words were the last ones spoken at EVERY leaders meeting with SFC Richard Moore. And guess what happened, it became such a mantra engrained across the platoon that we as a whole would make smarter decisions both on the battlefield and back on the FOB.
I literally fucked up last night. I'm on probation and I can't drink beer. I decided to drink some beer last night and drive to go TRY to meet some girls. And got pulled over and my car impounded and sat in jail and spent all my money to bail out .I'm dead in the game Jocko. Or at least beat up
So make better choices beginning right this second. Don’t throw the good that’s left in the future out with the bad in the past. Even if it’s 5 minutes ago, it might as well be a thousand years ago because the past is already history. The great thing is that applies to the good choices too, once you’ve accomplished them. Once they’re carried out, no one can take them away from you.
It’s okay if everyone was disciplined it wouldn’t be admired, keep being a moron. Only hurts you.
I really needed to hear this
I find a lot of times my greatest enemy can be myself
I started reading your book Jocko. It's so direct! Just like what you say today. It's good advice.
This made my day...thank you both for your work!
I was on drugs for 10 years got on a treatment program for 3 years so far and I've became addicted to fitness just like you mentioned. I definitely have an addictive personality I would say
As one of my higher ups told me once: "One 'oh shit' will take away a thousand 'atta-boys." True, to some extent, but not so much when speaking spirituality: doing the right thing is mighty powerful despite "the financial path" ~ fact
*Jocko Willink is the Reluctant Leader we need.*
.....We know you've done enough, but your Nation needs you.
🇺🇸 *2024* 🦅
Just imagine how many wars wouldn't have been started if the leaders responsible for it would have followed the advice in this video.
Maximum respect! 🫡
I think in regards to smoking or doing "negative" things in general, people tend to take things to excess. When others are in the moment, they don't always have the best judgment. In some regards to the use of things such as cigarettes, I think some people use it as a means of escape for a short amount of time to be able to deal with life in general. I think if there were more honest conversations on what brings others to choose various methods of "escape", we might have a better indicator of how to better prevent people from doing "dumb things"
We don’t need better indicators how to better stop people from doing shit. We all just need to get better at stopping ourselves from doing dumb shit.
"If there was no such thing as alcohol, alcoholics would rule the world"
Rolf dobelli's "The art of thinking clearly" does a great job at explaining the various biases.
Jocko NEVER let's echo finish a story 😅
Almost a 100% mission interruption rate 😅
If your gonna be stupid , be smart about it.
Control that ego lads. Well done jocko and echo on the podcast. Keep um coming.
As an unemployed 21 year old, a 40,000$ impulse buy seems absolutely completely fucking insane.
Quit Drinking and Start Thinking...
I am guilty of all this. Alcohol definitely was a main factor in a lot of dumb decisions I made when I was younger alcohol and ego etc. etc.
As a Southerner, all the west coast lingo is hilarious.
Echo - "....yeah, but is that your jammy -jam?" In reference to Jockos love for a cool Kit Jat was pretty funny.
This has been a public service message, don't drink and live life.😂
I'm surprised he didn't mention love. Love will make people do the dumbest sh*t.
Actually it's on the emotion subject
More so infatuation HUGE difference in my experience lol
Lust is the problem, love is the answer.
Awesome as always, deeply appreciated. Would love to see you guys bring on Brian Alsruhe - I believe his incredibly difficult life journey, counter-terrorist background, his "suffer beatifully" mentality and also, training intensity mindset would go along beatifully with the nature of this podcast.
If you have an addictive personality, you know it… And trust me, there are many people who truly do. When you get hooked on every little thing that you like, even a LITTLE BIT, you have a problem. That is an addictive personality - A person who does everything to excess.
I don’t smoke anymore because I use in excess but to condone alcohol and condemn weekend weed use is fucking stupid
I used to do bad shit cus I literally wanted to be bad, wanted to do "fun" drugs, I was so stupid I WANTED to go to jail when I was young, wanted a life of crime, well I got my wish, 20 years ruined, took 20 years to recover, 40 and figuring out life now like Im starting from scratch...
Your best days are in front of you then. You did dumb shit, I am confident that you'll do smart shit now. Good luck
But you recovered, that’s what matters.
its 3:33am
the universe is sending me sign to tell me to dont do dumb shit -(like mindlessly scrolling at 3am..)
lol 😆🤣👍
As a prior heroin addict (a decade) and now clean (half a decade) I think Jocko is wrong here but not in the way he’d think I’m saying he is wrong.
You do have an addictive personality. A rich life full of healthy addictions. And they DO run your life..The trajectory? Upwards, toward success. You’ve mastered your “addictions” and focused the knife in the right direction, to the point you don’t even realize that’s what it is.
Which, if you think about it, is a beautiful thing. Doesn’t mean you sacrifice other areas of life (because the addictions are healthy!)
thanks Jocko
Echo still trips me out. He has a 13 year old voice in a bjj heavyweights black belt body.
Jocko ‘24 💪🏼🇺🇸
Recently quit a 5 year addiction to cigarettes. Pretty damn hard but possible. It all started with peer pressure into doing dumb shit. Thanks Jocko and Echo. Love you guys
Echo chareles and jocko willink you guys are so great 💪 👏 you have helped me so #great men
"hey man, if you don't leave, I'm gonna let him go" 😂😂
Kingpin-“how’s life? Taking forever!”
Hey uncle Dwayne ya wanna do it
Like the Bible says” you can’t smack the stupidity out of the stupid “
I'm going to need that passage 😂
@@Matt_Maverick it’s somewhere in Ecclesiastes
@@Matt_Maverick maybe not word for word
Damn Jocko, why weren't you around when I was in my early twenties!
There's nothing worse than being the only sober, non-drinking guy in a bar or when you're younger, the club....
Yep.
Best off not going out to places like that.
Need to find new interests.
Impulsive can be strategic. My grandfather got up one day to get a box of doughnuts and a part from Lowes. He came back and my grandmother asked him for the receipt so she could deduct it from the checkbook. He put the receipt and the change he had in his pocket on the kitchen table. He left went to all his banks took everyone's names off HIS accounts, closed them, cancelled the credit cards and came back with a New Lincoln Town Car. Soonly after that his son in law and daughter tried to commit him to the Park unit. That was the first time they tried to overthrow the King.
STILL the BEST WARNING isn't in acts, it's in Proof.
Man I would have loved to been there that day and see the look on people's face when he came up the driveway 😅 but I was enjoying the sand and the sun out West.
Sometimes Stupid is just calling my name
It's not always just the alcohol, it's the personal struggles going on mixed with it. 🪙
I smoke cigarettes. I've cut back alot. But that doesn't really matter. Quitting does
Switch to vaping and slowly lower the nicotine content. When you hit 0% nicotine it just tastes gross and stopping will be easy. Made me quit very easily after smoking for 11 years.
Yes sir... I turn to alcohol, and now an alcoholic... Had to go to rehab to sort out that shit....... And it maid me loos everything... Like everything... On the spot sir
100% agree, nobody should start smoking cigarettes! Of all the dumb shit I've ever done, that's probably the worst one
Uncle sink is the beer drinker. He cracks me up too
Bros, this may be one of my favorite podcast from you guys. It's a simple but sometimes not easy task and this message is on point. The air of this podcast has a sense of accountability for the listeners, which I think is important. There hasn't been a lot of conversation on the pod with regards to alcohol. I am a 50 year old dude and quit drinking alcohol almost 4 years ago and now I love not drinking. It also came by accident and my story is a little long but essentially, I pro and con'd it out and I found only two pros of drinking... It tastes good and it can be pretty fun. Then, laundry list of cons was like 20+ deep. And believe me, I loved drinking. When you are pragmatic about it, the decision is clear. Drinking is dumb because noy only does it make us do dumb shit, but it doesn't improve anything in your life. Being is a sober dude has helped me in so many facets in life, and my bros that care about me, understand and support me. Understand that is just my story and no lost love for anyone who drinks, it's just not my jam. For me, it's simply not worth it.
Aside from the effect of drinking, thank you for the other reasons that we do dumb shit. Thank you for hitting this straight on. I have the opinion that if you are in any position of leadership, and we all are, we need someone in our back pocket to call us out that we are doing dumb shit. Thank you for helping us to be aware of when the forces that are against us, are on the attack. The attack of us wanting to the core, to be awesome and do mostly good shit.
Some of the greatest turning points in my life was when I DIDN'T do something.
Been outta the army for 7 months now hell you gave me the balls to finally join on got off the path hardcore while in this my first full listen to a pod for like 2 years safe to say back to the path I go mf get some y'all forreal
5 days in.. you still getting after it?
Congrats and welcome back. Hope all goes well ☘️
@@amaroo5717 hell yea it will
Never been good a riding waves. So I built myself a boat.
EC is the unsung hero of these podcats bro much love guys
So crazy that when I was in the Marine Corps, the structured life (and death runs each morning) made me have zero craving for drugs or alcohol, then when I was on my own able to do what I wanted, I lost my way. I’m a lover not a fighter when I drink, but that too is an issue when you’re in a relationship! Especially when it ends it then you have no reason not to then you Tru other shit and just feel there’s no reason to stop or care a d ne t thing you know you’ve lost everything you gave it all to earn and still don’t care and THEN your life is 2/3 gone! So fucked. It’s having goals and a structure and others ti compete against do I can pound my chest bragging.. humans, me specifically, are crazy beings.
I'm 18 so young as hell but I've had some experience. When I was 11 ish I started smoking weed. And I took Adderall. After a couple years when I turned 14 my friend steered me out of the hole I was in. The funny thing though was what he did to get me out of the cycle he just said like hey you know how bad that junk is for your brain. I mean he was a terrible ocd and a pessimistic guy at time but I'll tell you it was what I needed. Unfortunately he himself as a friend i looked up to decided hed finish where i left off smoking nic and drinking. 4 years later I'm doing great less problems less anger issues the whole thing. But man you just gotta start somewhere. For me though it was just the cold truth... anyways yall can get over it!
Excellent Sir 👏👏👏Ove done all that crazy shit “a few times “ 👏👏👏👏😂
Drinking from my late teens until the age of 39. Drinking was so normalized in my family and friend circles and I used it to escape from the person I didn’t like being. Late teens and 20’s I did ALOT of dumb things, despite losing my license for a short period and paying the price financially for that I’m very lucky and honestly surprised that nothing more serious happened. I’m surprised that I didn’t die during one of those dumb decisions. Drinking was fun for a while, it was a way to socialize and meet new people,,,, until it became a problem and negatively affected the ones I loved most.
Early on in my recovery I found jiu jitsu and joined a gym 5 minutes from my house. Jiu jitsu gave me a place to direct my energy & socialize with positive people that were into fitness and persevering through difficult things. I’m 5 years sober and my life couldn’t be better.
Manage your emotions.
@@MasteryOrder are you F ing serious
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@Mastery Order where you live china traitir
"What did he do!?" lol.
Thank you for your service and i love your work
Like everything else in life the smoking issue is way more layered and complex, despite the ease and simplicity of "just quit" recommendations. TBH I'm a smoker, pack to 1.5 packs a day, have been over 20-years and I'd be the first to agree it's not good for me, I'd be less winded if I quit, I'd breathe better, food might taste better too. Moreover, my health and physical well-being would improve no question about it, and I don't have a wish for death and I hope I live to be 110-years-old.
However, I enjoy smoking, I love the coffee and cigg combo first thing in the morning and after I eat, I enjoy lighting one up for it's own sake, I love my family and they love me and wished I'd stop, but it's something I enjoy and haven't a desire to quit; for now at least:) I could say, "well, we all die from something" or "I've smoked too long no way I could quit now" etc, etc, etc..., but I don't life's a chance and I roll with it if that makes me a bad person in this modern era then so be it, I don't know man, I don't know man, I just don't know:)
Great podcast! Talk about the Reese’s sticks and Kit Kats, hilarious! Love this channel in general for LIFE skills. I’m female & work with at risk youth in the city. Your podcasts have had positive impacts on some of my more challenging days. For this episode, my takeaways: moderation, mindfulness, and don’t do (“dumb sh!t”) things to disrespect yourself… I’ve seen a few people over the years who I lost a whole rack of respect for after seeing them (not even drunk),but after a few drinks. Perhaps because I don’t drink and never have. So I notice the slightest bit of weird behavior beyond their baseline/norm. We all have our vices but let self awareness /dignity guide your choice of vices. Peace & thanks for a great podcast.
"Don't do dumb shit"
This needs to go on a t shirt or hoodie.
Everyone knows it but we all do it so it needs to be on a hoodie & in our face
I don't have an addictive personality, I'm highly susceptible to addiction. That sounds more honest in tone, to me. It's no fun, but can be counteracted with regular, occasionally constant, mindfulness.
The "addictive personality" thing is a cope for people too weak to control themselves... coming from a former drug addict who comes from a family of drug addicts and alcoholics
Great show.
We need a non probiotic non enzyme version of Molk. I suffer in battle against an autoimmune disease that causes chronic infections from bacteria that are part of the digestive system. When I take probiotics it worsen symptoms and causes inflammation and makes me feel completely sick. MOLk is the absolute best whey protein powder I've ever had it is so tasty and effective but I wish it didn't have the probiotics and the extra stuff it does not need. Thank guys you have taught me so much and I'm a better person because of you.
Saying that one has an addictive personality is not a humble brag, it's a warning
Echo: HeHeeeeeeeeeeē 😂
Alcohol and cigarettes are your enemy.
Until September 1, 1994, at age 31, I was in that class of people who - when they got into trouble - alcohol was involved 99% of the time.
So true and that was helpful
Theyvalways run unless they are plenty yw😊
Great episode. I used to think I had an addictive personality. Now I know I have one. Before the gyms closed down I was lifting 6 days a week. Thought I’d go crazy if I couldn’t workout, seemed impossible. Well, I stopped lifting and started drinking more than I ever had. I quit now and I’m back lifting nearly every day. Working on quitting kratom now. People say it’s a miracle leaf, but be careful. It’s definitely addictive.
Impulse buying things online when I'm drunk. I have had things just show up weeks later. I had to make a decision to just not go on gunbroker when I'm out, uninstalled the amazon app, and working to just not drink. I type this as I placed a bid on an auction item completely sober (I already have 2 similar models of this item)