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  • @dcastro5551
    @dcastro5551 4 года назад +8

    Thank you for just pronouncing Griots correctly

  • @pmdoit
    @pmdoit 3 года назад +7

    Absolutely love my G8 & G9. I am relatively new to paint correcting. I played around with it 20+ years ago and within the past couple of years (retired with more time) I've gotten back into it. The craft has changed allot from the equipment to the chemicals. This video has opened my eyes to additional uses for my G8. I really like the idea of trying my hand at polishing chrome with it. Thanks for another great video!

  • @kenlucius7504
    @kenlucius7504 3 года назад

    Outstanding review! I had read quite a few negative reviews of the original Griots 3" polisher and was disappointed that they didn't have a better option. Now they answered every issue and included new innovation as well! I'm ordering one now.

  • @MyGuyKirby
    @MyGuyKirby 4 года назад +1

    A top notch review of this new version. I bought a set of the new models and really excited more now to put into use soon! GG creams are excellent performers and a good price point. Thanks for doing a complete review. FYI, I really love that blue on the GT, glad you went with that color.

  • @jpmavichana
    @jpmavichana 3 года назад

    Thanks for the review.
    Just bought this for the 2 inch polishing. I have a Adams SK Mini with 3.5" pads.

  • @royaltyautodetailing
    @royaltyautodetailing 3 года назад

    Just found your channel and I can't believe this is the first I'm seeing it! Love the content, keep up the great work! Earned my Sub!!

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  3 года назад

      Welcome aboard! You will find lots of detailing and product reviews on this channel if you search,

  • @72mstoney
    @72mstoney 4 года назад +2

    Great review, I think this is going to be my next machine

  • @brandonbuenorivera4396
    @brandonbuenorivera4396 4 года назад

    Fantastically Informative Phil. Thank you as always. B

  • @jasonhannsz
    @jasonhannsz 3 года назад

    I absolutely love the cord coming out of the machine. I can hang them on my cart and then when I want to switch to the machine I just unplug the cord and switch the machine without running back to the wall or having 2 cords running over to the work area.

  • @TripleGAutoDetailing
    @TripleGAutoDetailing 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video. If Griots doesn't sponsor you they are crazy. This is definitely going in my shopping cart. Turning into a Fanatic!! 😉
    Love your professionalism, content & presentation. 👍

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      i love this G8 and they are now coming out with new G15 and G21 units next month.

  • @bradc5633
    @bradc5633 4 года назад +4

    Great review and comparison thanks! Ordered the G8 to replace my original Griots 3” that I just wasn’t all that happy with... appreciate the compound and pad info. Great job as always.

    • @craig.encinitas
      @craig.encinitas 3 года назад +1

      I polished 90% of my GT350 with this G8 3” polisher. It’s a precise machine that doesn’t feel fatiguing.
      It handled all the angles on the car no problem.

  • @AdversaryNemesis1124
    @AdversaryNemesis1124 3 года назад

    Bro excellent video!! You just got a new subscriber and I just ordered one after your demonstration. Great job!

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  3 года назад +1

      thanks your really going to love this machine because i do and use it so much since ive had it.

  • @zacharycifers5016
    @zacharycifers5016 4 года назад

    I love this polisher, I’ve heard some bad things about it though, probably just new and they have to work the bugs out, definitely will be picking this up in the future

  • @stvcrgy55
    @stvcrgy55 4 года назад

    I have the G8 and G9. I like them both. I have used them both on my Focus ST and my Roush Mustang. Have used them with 3D1 and uro fiber 50/50 pads and Lake Cou try orange CCS pads.

  • @masterspin7796
    @masterspin7796 3 года назад +1

    Solid review...I'm buying a G3 I like using the rotary .

  • @CanadianCruisin
    @CanadianCruisin 4 года назад

    Nice machine. I'm going to attempt to correct my mustang paint and ceramic coat it in the next few weeks. I might have to find a smaller polisher like this before I start

  • @steves.922
    @steves.922 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for the review, Phil. I use my 3" more than my new G9. I had been wondering about the G8, but no more. I will order one when they are back in stock on the 18th.

  • @johnsavignano2339
    @johnsavignano2339 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video wish I had one

  • @billlewis8257
    @billlewis8257 4 года назад +1

    I have been deliberating about buying a G8.... After your video I am convinced! Thanks

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      yeah its a sweet machine i used it last night on polishing a set of wheel spokes its perfect

  • @jonathanblanco8090
    @jonathanblanco8090 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for this man! i just bought the G8 and G9 orbital Kit
    hopefully, they will last me a while, really looking forward to learning all about paint correction

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 месяца назад

      Hope you enjoy it! Both excellent machines youll really like them

  • @carlloftin2850
    @carlloftin2850 3 года назад

    Great review - just the comparison between the flex, g9 and g8 I was looking for..

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  3 года назад

      Glad I could help I absolutely love the G8 and use it often.

  • @williamcarter1381
    @williamcarter1381 Год назад

    Thanks for an informative video. I was on the fence, however this video convinced me. Just ordered G8 and G9. Griots had them as a combo deal. Got both for $269! This special also includes few pads and microfiber towels.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  Год назад

      Hope you enjoy it! killer deal the G8 is an absolute favorite.

  • @elithegreat6463
    @elithegreat6463 4 года назад

    This looks great for my Harley & BMW Bikes 👍

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +2

      yeah i polished my neighbors pipes and it came out awesome, i plan to do a video on that bike when it warms up this spring/

  • @bbdetailing9123
    @bbdetailing9123 2 года назад

    Excellent review.

  • @Spectrum_Auto_Spa
    @Spectrum_Auto_Spa 3 года назад

    Fast correcting cream with orange pad then collinite? Or was there a step after the fast correcting cream?

  • @daledahlman4073
    @daledahlman4073 4 года назад

    Love this with about 15 hrs in.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      yeah the G8 is one of my favorite machines I have had in a very long time

  • @chasegoodrich5250
    @chasegoodrich5250 2 года назад

    I got a question where did you get those containers of pads for the 2 inch?

  • @johnryan1386
    @johnryan1386 4 года назад

    Really wish we had brands like this in Australia

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      surprised they do not have AU representation but even for our brand its very hard to establish that for some reason i think due to the AU regulations on trade.

  • @loganformaggioni5883
    @loganformaggioni5883 2 года назад

    Is the back of the 3in orange pad white or is it black?

  • @toyonation827
    @toyonation827 4 года назад

    ♠️♠️♠️Griots winning from day 1!!!🤙

  • @UaeDelta
    @UaeDelta 4 года назад

    Not sure if this will work overseas.. but thanks for the video!

  • @luisvazquez3224
    @luisvazquez3224 4 года назад +1

    Picked up the G8 and G9; both worked flawlessly to correct the paint on my wife's 2012 Subaru Legacy. G9 was used on larger sections (hood, roof, trunk lid, upper doors, etc.) while the G8 was used on the lower part of the doors, door pillars, bumpers, and smaller areas throughout. I have the Adam's Nano polisher, but that has a ton of gear noise and it gets extremely warm after using it to frame out the area around door handles and tight contours where the G8 couldn't fit; I didn't try the 2" adapter. I used BOSS orange and yellow pads with Fast Correcting and Perfecting creams as a 2 step. My G9 has a louder jet engine whine to it; my G8 sounds similar to yours. For the price, I think these two are hard to beat... however, the jury is still out on the Adam's.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      Adams did not create any polisher from the ground up, nothing innovative or different just slapped their name on an existing unit like most companies do., big difference and glad you like your G8 and G9 units there a total bargain for the quality and performance. best nano is the Rupes Nano using it with the plug in module i use it almost every day.

    • @luisvazquez3224
      @luisvazquez3224 4 года назад

      @@autofanaticcars Exactly right and spot on comments with the Griots; completely redesigned their older models. I think Adam's rushed their micro by only rebranding; it's obviously just a color change with an Adam's sticker around the neck. Fingers crossed that Griot's comes out with a nano as I can't justify the cost of the Rupes Nano; I'm just a weekend warrior that will only use it a few times throughout the year. Thanks for the videos... keep 'em coming, especially those about your Alfa's.

    • @c6z061
      @c6z061 4 года назад

      @@luisvazquez3224 the Adam's Micro polisher is just fine for the money. Works well.

    • @calvinwong365
      @calvinwong365 4 года назад

      @@autofanaticcars don't griots garage have some sort ™️ against Adams copying their product line?

  • @jeffc6832
    @jeffc6832 4 года назад

    I'm going to pick up a G8 soon, but trying to figure out if I should get a G15 or G21 to go with it. I'm new to polishing/correction and will be doing 1-2 cars per year at the most. Also, any thoughts on the Adam's SK Micro as a budget alternative to Rupes Nano?

  • @rbljackson
    @rbljackson 9 месяцев назад

    Ive been looking a lot at polishers and have no experience, but need to start paint correcting my motorcycles, and want to start working towards Ceramic coatings and getting away from Carnauba wax. This unit appeals to me for the bikes (for paint correction prior to Ceramic coatings) because it came with both 3 and 2 inch backing plates. They also have a pro kit that includes a 1" pad. Do you think this would be a great way to go for a DIY guy doing bikes and trim work on other vehicles?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  9 месяцев назад +1

      This machine is absolutely perfect 👍

  • @tundrawhisperer4821
    @tundrawhisperer4821 4 года назад

    Noticed when you were polishing your A pillar, there’s no masking tape on the trim, no concern about marring the trim? Thx.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      not at all with this machine there is no real trim just the weather strip that barely gets touched.

  • @Sphoxros
    @Sphoxros 4 года назад

    I might just have to get one of these for my 2019 WRX :D. At $130 that's a steal when compared to other company's.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      yeah total bargain and lifetime warranty is a win win for anyone. Go for it I use mine several times a week and LOVE IT

    • @nabaddame5726
      @nabaddame5726 4 года назад

      Looking at either the g9 or g8 for my wrx as well. How do you like it? My understanding is if I get the g9 I can run a smaller pad with a different backing plate. Can I do a 3" pad on the g9? And vise versa can I get the g8 and put a larger backing plate and pad like a 5"? The wrx definitely has some angles that would benefit from a smaller pad but I just can't get both the g8 and g9.

  • @tundrawhisperer4821
    @tundrawhisperer4821 4 года назад

    What if your just a weekend detail warrior and don’t want to have to own multiple polishers, could you just get a polisher that offers a 5” pad initially and then can be swapped out for a 3” or even a 2” backing plate, such as the Maxshine m15 pro series ll ? Any thoughts on pros vs cons on this idea? Thx Phil.

    • @kevinduran6517
      @kevinduran6517 4 года назад

      I personally think swapping out a machine that's meant to have a 5 inch plate with the 15mm throw to a 3 inch plate is not a good idea. That throw would be too much for such a small plate and making the machine really unbalanced. I'm new to the paint correction world and to the DA Polishers but that's just what I think. I'm not s professional by any means.

  • @Amolavelocicoaster_363-23.
    @Amolavelocicoaster_363-23. 3 года назад

    Hello, I ask you from Argentina, can this g8 use a 3-inch baking plate with the same thread that the porter cable 7424 uses? thanks

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  3 года назад

      that I am not sure because I do not own the Porter Cable tools,

  • @ismaeluribe2787
    @ismaeluribe2787 3 года назад

    What’s the company for the pads that you used?

  • @seattlecam1
    @seattlecam1 4 года назад

    What about the thicker Opti Pads? Any demo videos or suggestions where to buy them?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      Optipads are sold on Amazon check out my Black Friday video posted in November i also have the listings posted in that video. there awesome pads i love them.

  • @larrydavisj
    @larrydavisj 4 года назад

    It should have included a spring for the trigger lock button for the G9. I guess after around 25 hours or so, the the lock button and tension spring popped out and I had to unplug the thing to shut it off. Couldn't find the spring anywhere. Kinda pisses a man off even if the thing is only priced at $150.00. However I must mention it was made in China. Next one will be German made.

  • @deregulationIC
    @deregulationIC 4 года назад +1

    For someone who just basically washes their own car, would you recommend just picking up this or a g9? Like, I would probably use this 2 or 3 times a year, for paint correcting and maybe the rest of use to spread wax?
    Also, keep up the great work love your honest reviews.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      depends how complex your car is, both machines are great and i have actually corrected full blown panels with the G8 during my testing of this unit.

  • @chrome3720
    @chrome3720 2 года назад

    What's the dimensions from back plate to top of head ?

  • @viran101
    @viran101 2 года назад

    Great informative video thanks! Does the G9 have a variable trigger like the G8?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  2 года назад +1

      Yes it does their entire new lineup of polishers are really great I primarily use the G8, G13 and GR3 the most and i still use the first gen G15 and G21

    • @viran101
      @viran101 2 года назад

      @@autofanaticcars for years now I’ve been using a porter cable polisher and really don’t like using it. I want to upgrade now and I’m torn between the G9 and G15. I use it like twice a year for my personal cars and want something more enjoyable to use. Any tips for helping me make a decision? Appreciate the help :)

  • @ghc7910
    @ghc7910 3 года назад +1

    May be a crazy question but can you get away polishing a suv with this ? Just thought I’d ask because I really don’t use it enough to buy two of them a 6 inch and 3 inch so trying to get away with buying just one I figured it’s better using a 3 inch buffer than polishing by hand ? Thoughts ?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  3 года назад +1

      yes i have polished complete cars with this machine including my Ferrari F355 with single stage 26 year old paint

  • @kimjung2442
    @kimjung2442 Год назад

    Nice of review of the g8. Have you tried the new g13? It supposedly cuts better and smoother than the g8

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  Год назад +3

      I have the G13 and was using it this afternoon, ,love that machine but unless your experienced the G8 is the better machine for most avid users since you can change aggressiveness with just pads and compounds and still be safe the G13 in the hands of the wrong user can burn edges. both awesome machines and use them regularly.

  • @MIKEYSREVIEWS
    @MIKEYSREVIEWS 4 года назад +2

    Great review did you mention that it also has a 2". So it has a 3" and a 2". Is that correct?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      yes it comes with the smaller backing pad but i never use that on this machine i would just use the Rupes Ibrid for smaller stuff

  • @TechCrazy
    @TechCrazy Год назад +1

    The G9 turned out to be a disaster for me due to unbearable vibration. Bought two units in a span of 8 months and both were like that. However the G8, I am very happy with.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  Год назад

      Griots has lifetime warranty hope they took care of this

  • @chrisryan8894
    @chrisryan8894 Год назад

    Nice video. Have you ever used the Adam’s Sk pro. 12mm? How would you say it compares the the g8?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  Год назад +1

      g8 is a professional grade machine. that all that matters the Adams is toy that they just put their name on Griots engineered their machines specifically and they are not knocked off by other companies at the moment

    • @SDuser-en9pb
      @SDuser-en9pb 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@autofanaticcars I have the g8, g13 and the 12mm SK pro and tend to grab more often the SK pro, it is smaller and found more easier to use on vertical surfaces, I qould say that is on par if not better than griots, I also have and lover their GR3, I just ordered a 5/8 adapter to he able to use the GR3 extensions on the orbital poloshers, especially on the G8 due to lower throw

  • @Amolavelocicoaster_363-23.
    @Amolavelocicoaster_363-23. 3 года назад

    Hello, I bought it the g9 and the g8 and bought two machines of each one and both you press it, it stagnates and slows the rotation of the baking plate, I am talking about the g8, in speed 6, you have to take it very straight so that it does not slow down , on the other hand porter cable 7424 (only 450w) but with excellent torque and being so old I climb on top of the machine with a lot of pressure and force and the avocado never stops turning or orbits it, which achieves a better cut, the weird thing is that this g8 has a lot of power (700w) (but no torque) but why does something new have little torque ??? On the other hand, the mini 3-inch rupes with only 500w of power, never stop by pressing hard to cut, this is rare, what is your opinion about it? Greetings from Argentina, greetings

  • @toyonation827
    @toyonation827 4 года назад

    In a perfect world , they’d make ONE polisher that can covert to ALL backing plates lol 2,3,5 etc lol I wish !

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      I 100% agree i hope in the future they make 1 unit that can simply do it all even it the darn thing is priced at $699 it would be worth it.

    • @swm122758
      @swm122758 3 года назад

      @@autofanaticcars you would think that some ambitious entrepreneur would create a 'flexi-wand' attachment that fits most buffer spindles...possibly via adapters. The wand could be used for 3" down to micro pads.
      Sounds like a crowd-source project for you 🤔

  • @elonmusk8667
    @elonmusk8667 4 года назад

    Have you ever tried the Rupes polisher?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +2

      owned and tried them all this is my favorite 3 inch machine so far as i explained why by the design

  • @robgerety
    @robgerety 3 года назад

    Can this machine be used to wet sand headlights?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  3 года назад

      yes i have used it with 3M Trizact discs works awesome

  • @71gmonet
    @71gmonet 4 года назад

    Totally agree on all you have pointed out. I would have put even more emphasis on the variable trigger as you can feather it to spread and then ramp it to full to work your product. Also, at the current price I feel it is a steal.
    The 3M Pefect-it compound is a body shop safe, what you see is what you get compound. No fillers to temporarily mask actual result. When used with a rotary as intended the results are as good as anything. The biggest difference is time to results. This line is meant to knock out vehicles fast in the body shop. Don’t use the 3M white on molded plastics because it cuts too much too fast. In general the clear on today’s molded plastics is too thin. Nice way to say cheap 🤣. Just wanted to throw some caution and some perspective on where 3M Pefect-it comes from. Nice to see an old school body shop product get some attention.

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      yeah the 3M products are awesome i have been using them for 30 years and the new line up is great for speed and execution. i was shocked how awesome it worked with this small machine, small orbit for sanding scratches, perfection in seconds. One thing i also like about the 3M stuff is they are not greasy after you do a panel like most of the other products which makes it tough to see your work.

  • @jerryclleung
    @jerryclleung 4 года назад

    I shouldn't be watching this with the COVID19 running rampant... it's gonna cost me $$$'s when I don't even know if I'll still have a job.... 😳
    God bless those who's life has been taken by it.

  • @functionaldoc5054
    @functionaldoc5054 4 года назад

    How does this compare to the new FLEX PXE 80 ?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      watch the video i show my Flex Mini

    • @functionaldoc5054
      @functionaldoc5054 4 года назад

      The new cordless model PXE 80 but it $399 with 2 battery's that does both DA and Random orbital. @@autofanaticcars

  • @Hot.Tamale714
    @Hot.Tamale714 3 года назад

    Can you give me some advice @auto fanatic should I go with the g8 or the new gr3? I already own a g9. I need to get into tighter spots around headlights. Thanks!

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  3 года назад +1

      the G8 is the more versatile tool the Gr3 i also have but that is a rotary tool i got the GR3 to replace my Flex Pe8 which i absolute HATE the lack of a real trigger on any smaller machine. The G8 with the microfiber pads and right polishes you can do it all from headlights, wet sanding etc.

    • @Hot.Tamale714
      @Hot.Tamale714 3 года назад +1

      @@autofanaticcars Appreciate the quick response! I'll probably have to change my preorder then haha. When do you think it's necessary to own a rotary? what situations would I benefit from having one over a DA?.

  • @davidrisser5391
    @davidrisser5391 4 года назад

    Are the power cords for g8 and go interchangeable?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      yes the same cord is used between both machines which is great, I have one 25ft and one 10ft in my drawer and can chose whatever i need.

    • @davidrisser5391
      @davidrisser5391 4 года назад

      That's great. Thanks

  • @jayzayas3425
    @jayzayas3425 4 года назад

    Did u drop the video of correcting the mustang

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад +1

      go to my Instagram i had posted many short videos on the R correction and I may piece together something short for YT this week to show everyone

    • @jayzayas3425
      @jayzayas3425 4 года назад

      Ok thanks

  • @functionaldoc5054
    @functionaldoc5054 4 года назад

    #AutoFanatic Phil any other source for 3 inch Optipad since there is none listed on Amazon I did Google search them and no luck. Going with G8 and want the best pads . I might have settle for Griot's pads .

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      they must be sold out but you can use the 4 inch Optipads since they taper on to the 3 inch backing pad. the Griots microfiber pads are great on this machine as well.

  • @masterspin7796
    @masterspin7796 3 года назад

    It works 10 times better than the ZOTA I bought from Amazon...waste of money.

  • @robertmunguia250
    @robertmunguia250 3 года назад

    Can you put a bigger backing plate on the G8?

  • @GoebelsDetailshop78
    @GoebelsDetailshop78 4 года назад

    Wish they would had made them brushless

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      that will for sure be the future my Mirka tools are all brushless but also very expensive

    • @ortizdrz
      @ortizdrz 4 года назад

      I believe to recall seeing a video where Griots mentions not having had made them brushless in order to keep their pricing down

  • @MrTurbobuick87
    @MrTurbobuick87 4 года назад

    When do we get to meet the Beast?

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      soon it's just too cold now to be doing a pressure washer video outside. I have shot many clips already but i need to finish the video. its coming soon very soon

    • @MrTurbobuick87
      @MrTurbobuick87 4 года назад

      I take for granted I’m in California where we are still in the high 60’s and low 70’s.

    • @bbdetailing9123
      @bbdetailing9123 4 года назад

      @@MrTurbobuick87 showers expected Sun and Monday :) in So Cal

  • @tombeck2792
    @tombeck2792 4 дня назад

    I think it's pronounced " graz-its"

  • @GoebelsDetailshop78
    @GoebelsDetailshop78 4 года назад +2

    I’ll stick with my rupes 3 inch

  • @SWAGURA
    @SWAGURA 4 года назад

    Its.............
    Not junk🤣🤣🤣

    • @autofanaticcars
      @autofanaticcars  4 года назад

      these are nice units and for the money its such a great value. nothing about them feels or looks cheap which is impressive.