Back on Fixing (Ruining) the Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit - PART 51
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2024
- Part 51 - Back on the 1988 Silver Spirit. As always loads of stuff to work through. I'm trying my best to fix, but some people think I am ruining it, so for those special people, here I am ruining an already ruined car! For the rest of you viewers in the real world that appreciate £100k cannot be spend on a car of this worth, I hope you enjoy the attempted fixes.
My biggest challenge yet! Can I FIX a 1988 Rolls Royce Silver Spirit with too many faults to list, there is more wrong with it than right. Will I end up crying into my Connolly leather seats or will this beast live on.
This is the cheapest Rolls Royce in the UK so I wasn't expecting much, hopefully bit by bit with sheer determination and zero skill I will attempt to fix each fault one by one.
This is PART 51 of this series. Every part will be filmed, and I hope to discover the craftmanship that has gone into this 34 year old moving piece of art.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince. 
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Vince only a suggestion leave the handbrake off if it’s being stored up for a time, as they may stick on, if it’s in park and bricked up it will be fine… excellent update, and I hope your dad gets back on his feet soon 😊
Vince, instead of the cosmetic work put the car in for an MOT to find out if there is anything serious that needs fixing.
Absolutely - it seems a good idea to get it 'nice' for the MOT, but it really just needs a list of advisories to work on and then crack on with the cosmetics once you know what the score is.
I'd also get the car painted - and then glue the trims on
@@timprice5yep hes going about it the wrong way
I'm with you davidjeffries, no need to worry about the MOT put it in for it's MOT and no guessing anymore, Vince will then have a proper list of things needing to be fixed instead of doing everything he can think of which may not even be necessary, and he can stop wasting time fixing stuff that doesn't require doing. Yep a great idea to tell the truth.
Some garage will do pre MOT check for you
The sound of 23k viewers screaming,
...'Don't use the white adhesive Vince!'
Great video Vince 👍🇬🇧😎
I've been subscribed up for just about three months now, and the references to the Rolls-Royce have always just sounded so SILLY, like they were some kind of inside joke. What a fool I am!!
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I have an idea Vince, get the spray paint your spraying the car with and spray it into a container like a plastic paint spray top and get yourself a cheap small artists paintbrush and paint the white bits around the edges to match the car. I know, a bit more work but it will then not show up as white. We all make mistakes Vince and in retrospect think we should have done things differently, but you have done excellent work on this car far and above your initial skill levels and no need to berate yourself over a small, no, very small error. Think of all the skills you have acquired fixing this car, no need to spend any time putting yourself down over a small mistake. This car is plainly beautiful since you started work on it. I love these videos Vince. They show what a non expert can learn to do to repair faults, it's the same with your electronic fixes you have gone ahead in leaps and bounds learning new skills, for example you remove and change ic's without even thinking about it now, your skills have improved so much over the time of your videos and its the same with the Rolls Royce.
One last comment when you have finished using the spray cans turn them upside down and press the button a bit of solvent and propellant will spray out and clean the tiny nozzle so it doesn't ruin the whole can next time you use it, it will unblock the tiny spray nozzle.
Just get the car in for an MOT, been following this from day one, think you’ll be surprised I recon it will pass, if not, shouldn’t be that bad and at least you will have a failure list to work from ! Don’t worry about interior lights, they are not a test item. If you’re thinking about a respray why would you stick the rear arch protectors on at this stage ?
A masterclass in bodgery
Reminds me of me old dad, doing the bodywork on the car, even after sanding, the surface is like the moon, and painted with a rattle can where the colour does not quite match, great fun and memories R.I.P😊
Terrible old bodging on this channel
One of the many charms that makes me love Vince's videos even more. Spraying paint like he's putting on hairspray *chefs kiss*. Love ya Vince!
Great to see you back on the Roller Vince always enjoy watching
Vince, based on the gauge, it looks like it’s time for some petrol! I must say, I love this series! It’s been your absolute best in my opinion! Absolutely brilliant!
Thank you Nicholas 👍👍👍
Anyone else get the distinct feeling throughout this video that Vince just did not want to be there...
30:09 - "Thing is, that's the only good thing on the car". Vince always comes out with a funny quip. Also, You could probably have saved that battery by using a pulse/trickle charger for it. The battery on my wife's car failed as it hadn't been started much for months, but I got a repair/pulse charger off of Am-a-son for just over £20, and after about a day or so of trickle/pulse charging, it was repaired and back to like new. I started it the other day after a month of no use, and it turned over and started immediately. Before I 'repaired' it with the new charger, I would fully charge it and by the next day it was as flat as a pancake again, so the repair charger worked a treat.
Yup: lead acid batteries can be restored this way, but don't do it with NiMH or similar!
Nice to see the Roller again. I patched up some leather bolsters using an off cut of leather and some shoe repair glue (contact adhesive). It stuck so well my repair outlasted the car!😃😃
I would pump the tyres up to 50psi when your storing it vince. That's what we do at the dealership I work at. You will get flat spots if not.
50 is too high and wont prevent flat spots.
@Brianck1971 every car that's brand new have there tyres set to 50 psi. Then when we pdi them we set them to the correct pressure. If they are being stored we then have to either put them back to 50psi if we haven't set them to the correct pressure. That's the same with every car.
@Brianck1971 You should take note of you last comment "people with the least knowledge give the most advice" 😉 I'm a vehicle technician. 👍
Agreed, I work in PDI as well , they all come in at 50-60 psi to prevent flat sports in storage. We change them down to the placard just before delivery.
@@excaliber32 Someone who works at a dealership is called a sales person, not a vehicle technician. Someone who recommends inflating your tires to 50 PSI when hand book recommends 24 PSI is an idiot.
Good to see more of the Rolls repairs this a great series to have on your amazing channel Vince 👍
Love how the RUclips auto captions classify the sound of the sander as music and applause. Great to see the car progressing 🙂
Seems like I been waiting ages for an update, I was about to ask how it was coming along the last video you just dropped. Love seeing this project come to life!
Keep it up bud
Nice progress on the Rolls restoration :) Perhaps some soapy water on the tyre valve would reveal if that's the one causing the leak. Might be also slightly corroded rim, so the tyre wouldn't sit perfectly air tight against the rim. Nice to see new battery fixed the starting issue.
My latest fix is replacing the battery inside PS3 Slim console a week ago. Luckily my console is the easier one, no need the take it completely apart, but top cover, PSU and Blu-Ray disc drive had to come off regardless. Oh and needed to find TR8 "tamper torx" bit first before I could take even the top cover off.
Can't say I'm a fan of the protectors and like you say there just gonna trap moisture and hide any emerging rust.
Also why did you install them when you plan on getting a respray?
Not sure why that leather repair kit came with guaze to backfill? Usually you get a little piece of leatherette so it has the same strength and flexibility as the surrounding leather. And it's flatter so takes less filler and will be more flexible. Oh well.
I think it's time to get rid of the Aylesbury duck, the front wing looks good.
Looking forward to the next episode, always a nice watch
I was thinking the exact same about the respray. It seems like they're going to have to be pulled off soon, which will be a waste/ may cause damage.
Yeah I was thinking the same about respray too.
Nice to see your body work skills are improving. I cringed last year when you sanded the bonnet with coarse sandpaper. Keep up the good work and am looking forward when you get it DOT approved. 👍👍
I‘d like to be there for the first test drive, but I don‘t think I‘ll live long enough.😂
Hi Vince. Thanks for another absorbing episode. You now also have a perfect opportunity to test battery rejuvenators!
When you remove the arch protectors for paint, I would consider replacing them with clear paint protection film
Vince, this whole series has given me flashbacks of when I restored my W126 Daily Driver Mercedes. So many similar situations encountered (and so many similar remedial plans lain.) Rest assured: you will conquer this beast!
Love to see these back . Love this series Vince .....buy a boat next 😅😅😅😅
You always sound so despondent when you do a RR video but it is now so much better than when you bought the car
Back on the Rolls.. I love it!
Love this series! Keep up the great content
Been waiting for this for what felt like forever. Binging the whole series in December was not so great of an idea in hindsight. Oh well. Good job Vince, keep the videos coming!
Been waiting for this for what feels like years
Great tip: you can hold the phone with your LEFT hand and operate the knobs with your RIGHT hnd.
why did you put the rubber things, if you have to paint the car latter on.
i remember doing most of this to a few cars around 30yrs ago, i'd only buy dirt cheap cars from my local car scrapyard to fix up, my first car at 18yrs old was an almost mint con. 1970'ish met orangy bronze opel kadett c 1.2s, i loved spending hours just fillering/sanding/stripping bits off to fix or clean, i really miss those days and wish my kids had been born earlier to share my lack of bodywork knowledge or had them read the haynes manual out while i bodged it, i'd love to come and help you out if i could vince looks like fun lol keep it up m8 it'll be golden again one day.
I would of glued on those pieces last after respraying the paint work.
My god Vince nearly finished me off when you thought of getting rid of the duck its the best bit lol , another great video on the RR soon be MOTd and back on the road cant wait.
Sound job Vince can’t wait for the next video 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😎
Been looking forward to this 😀
The correct adhesive for the rubber spats would more likely be 3M VHB double sided tape. Much easier to work with, no mess, instant bond. If you take care to work it around the shape of the part no water will get in at all. Maybe look to that instead after the car is painted. Also, chrome wheels will often get a touch of internal corrosion, especially if the car sits a bit. Might need to have the tire removed, the wheel cleaned inside, an the tire re-mounted.
You're bang on around 19:30, the rubber bits trap water and make a right mess of the arches. When I had them done on my Turbo R we didn't replace them for this reason.
Probably should have left the rear arch guards off the car until after the respray
Those rubbers you put on (starting at 13:00), wasn't it better to wait till after re-painting the car? Now you have to take them off again if you want to re-paint the back panels...
I have the greatest respect for your courage in tackling such an extensive project. At the same time, I don't understand many of your work steps. Why putty when the bumper is installed or these rubbers on the wheel arch?
Love your videos!
Why would you put the ugly wheel well pieces on if your gonna paint the car
Rubbish bin makes a perfect helper for testing lights.
Low beam, high beam, indicators, and tail lights are all easy to check on your own, reverse and brake lights you just need to put the vehicle against a wall where you can see them, or a rubbish bin, or do it at night time and look for the glow.
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We call that a 20/20 paint job in the States. Looks good from 20ft or above 20mph.
Great to see you back to work on the Rolls, and I hope that your dad gets to feeling better soon.
Also, just wanted to add that I think that once you have it all painted up, you should do something to keep the duck/goose head on the car. Like a decal or something. I remember you saying that it reminds you of your mother, and I think it's a cool little conversation starter.
Can't wait for part 52!
How interesting Vince, this morning I thought that you had not made a video on the Rolls-Royce for a while and now I see your video... (I'm not kidding)
Fascinating and as enthralling as ever! I think because your not an expert your repairs are all the more interesting....
The black plastic trims I wouldn't have put them on yet until it came back from the paint shop.
great to see you back on the car vince
I'm surprised you didn't use black adhesive on the seat!!
My dad just had his hip done. After rehab he’s walking better than ever. Knees are a bit more tricky, hope your dad heals up good!
Thanks Adam Mech!
Yay, Rolls is back and MOT nigh! This is the year of the Rolls.
Love the videos Vince👍👍helped me a lot brought 2 Zeppelins did you’re fix work beautifully now. Liked the videos on the B&O stuff.
Have you ever worked Bob a Samsung PS50Q97HD Tv. A V large and heavy Plasma. Quiet complex,had it working ,but now have exploding transistors(NOT GOOD) replaced The Y Sustain and buffer boards,worked on the PWR Supply. Fires up no picture or sound.can’t hear the high pitched frequencies from Y sustain or X sustain.
Think I will get a good S/H PWR Supply board and X main. If that doesn’t fix it it’s being salvaged for parts. Pitty as when it briefly worked the picture was excellent.
Any advice welcomed.
Keep up the great videos,really informative 👍👍👍👍
Another fantastic episode. I did see a comment about someone suggesting about getting the mot sorted before cosmetics I defo think that would be a good idea however the cosmetic work needs to be done anyway so may as well sort it now 😂
Anyway fantastic episode Vince !
yessssss! TY been waiting for this!!
I want to start by saying ‘I love ya Vince’ I’ve enjoyed every video you’ve done especially the Rolls-Royce series.
up until this video. Nothing has triggered me…but why my friend did you use white adhesive! You should’ve just taken it back buddy, or coughed for another tube of black.…. still love you though xx
When you finish painting with the can, hold it upside down and spray a bit like that, to clear the internal "hose" of the paint. Next time it will spray as new.
mask off your chrome trim bits and black plastics, a couple of pence of tape can save some expensive and time consuming woes! (voice of expensive experience), is great to see somebody tackle this ,good luck 🖖
1,000 out of 10 for determination Vince.
Ohhhh, Vince, get those rear wheel arch rubbers off as soon as possible. Horrible mistake! Too much adhesive, wrong color, and as you said they'll likely be a place for rust to actually start due to water infiltration! Who cares if they were OEM! If you really wanted some protection back there, you should have just applied some spray type rocker panel shield or even undercoat. They make such stuff in clear or even black would have looked similar to the original stuff.
I care,they should be on,look great when on correct.they really should have bin put on after the cars repainted,fitted correctly they dont trap water and stop the paint getting grit blasted by the front wheels.i cant wait to see it finished.
@@ivanfernyhough3851yes, I like OEM stuff too....but only when done correctly! My god he made a mess. Worse yet, his latest vid #52 shows him making an even bigger mess with those rubbers by smearing paint over the excess sealant!? I like Vince's vids, especially when they show good troubleshooting, analysis, and fix, but my god he's making some truly awful bodge fixes on the car. Just get it running, topping, and functioning well! Forget about how it looks for the moment!
The ongoing trials and tribulations of Our Mate Vince, The Artful Bodger.😁😁😁
Tyre valves, we would always change the valves if yours are a wider spec we may just change the cores only, TPS we change the the bit you see and refit the transmitter bolted to the valve inside of the wheel. as for MOT google "register a MOT test" you get to a Gov UK page that has a button Start Now, click it and you are presented with a log on screen, scroll down to the bottom of the page and you have the MOT manuals listed (you need class 4). we are only interested in the minimum standard on the road.
Minimum : so seat belts can be helped back and must be able to retract themself against the seat without someone sat in them and can have a little help to do so! DO NOT PULL AND SNACH A BELT ! that will dent and make it difficult to put on. As a tester we DO NOT yank test the belt, we tension the belt against its lock in clasp and check it can be released under tension (I have know idea why you guys think you need knives to get out of a seatbelt when your car is upside down just press the button... Try it plug your belt in kneel on the seat and pull as hard as you can on the belt and press the button...you will end up on the floor outside the car! )
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System, TP?S 😂
Vince why wouod you install those rubber protectors before painting? Seems completely pointless as you're just going to have to rip them off remove all traces of the sealant?
I enjoy this series. Keep up the good work. Have you checked the alternator with regards the battery?
Going well Vince
5:13 Hello Mr. Dad :)
First thing I thought when I saw those bits of plastic trim was, 'water trap.'
You need to keep the duck where it is, it will be unhappy elsewhere, and you don't want an unhappy duck, do you?
White wall bleed , you can get black tyre paint that will freshen up the black .
Try a spray bottle of soapy water to see where the leak is coming from
As far as I am aware the MOT doesn't require a light for the gear selector, but I would replace it anyway then you can be sure it isn't something it fails for, main reason why I think that is because you wouldn't have a gear selector on a manual car,
but if there is one thing that drives my OCD is seeing a light not working that should be working, and one thing I do when buying a new used car is replace all the lights on the dash, but with modern cars being led back lights then impossible to do as easily.
that way I know the lights all work until I get rid of the car a few years down the line, aim to replace the car every 3-4 years type of thing.
as for batteries for the car I tend to also go with the larger sized battery, mainly because of the amount of electronics in our lives, and with the old cars it was also the "heavy duty" type, mainly because it kicked the engine over a lot quicker even when the battery was running low on power ie. close to flat battery, so easier to bump start at super slow speed, ie. friends pushing up hill in the snow type of speed.
but most MOT checks are obvious to those that think about the items checked which is all basically safety systems, hazards, lights, warning lights, windscreen wipers work and not damaged ie. split at the ends, windscreen is clean and clear from cracks stone chips etc in the line of view especially, windscreen washers work, and set for about eye level on the windscreen, seats are locking in position and don't move without user input, and secure, seat belts, seat belt buckles, brakes, number of handbrake clicks 4 to 8 is normal, exterior no sharp objects, no bodywork damage that can cause injury, nothing loose that can cause injury. number plates aren't cracked and readable without smear marks/septeration deformities, at a decent distance ie. more than 100 feet is what I would class as minimum. then I would book the car in for the MOT, and tyre tread depth isn't below minimum markers or close to minimum tead depth markers inside the grooves, as most else you cannot check so easily.
I’ll point you in the direction of Flying Spares, Sherburn in Elmer, N. Yorks. They are a specialist RR dismantler should you need any parts. Might even get a good drivers seat back to fettle that bolster.
He allready uses them,alot lol.
The car is only running on 7 cylinders. You can hear it clearly in the beginning of the video, a distinct "thudding" that is not the same for every cylinder but repeats regularly. It's been quite a while since you worked on the ignition and I don't recall if you even did valve clearance, but I would (re)visit those if I were you. Not sure about the MOT requirements for this age of car, but it might fail on emissions if you don't and obviously it's not good for an engine to have a misfire.
Oh nice a new rolls video 🥰
Worth getting it MOT'd for £40 or so. Even if it fails you then know what needs working on. Get it done it might just pass.
Vince, you are not ‘ruining’ this car. You are saving it. Another great video. Keep up the amazing work. Best wishes for the USA!
The white sealant is going to give you some trouble, should have popped out and brought some black
Great series ignore the Rolls trolls.
Rolls Trolls! 😂😂
Vince those rubber spat things will have to come off for the respray
Please buy a DA sander and some wet and dry
And don’t use a chisel
I cant believe your painting over the duck I am heartbroken :) nice to see the rolls coming along.
He should take a photo and have a T-Shirt made out of it.
@@dlewis9760 He has pictures and will make stickers, he stated so towards the end of the video after I made the comment, Made me giggle when he said its the best thing on the car.
Just get rid of the damn ''duck'', it just looks silly, IMO! Surely it going anyway, if you're thinking about a full respray!
I would think the white wall leak on only the one tire is because it's the only one to be out in the elements. You have the fence and hedge on the left side of the car and the back right tire is sheltered by the house :)
Good to have you back Vince, i know how hard it is with our weather! For us Rolls Royce enthusiasts, you are doing a fantastic job, all the best and keep at it...
Am so glad to see the car again lol
@4:47 - You can, indeed, replace TPMS sensors. Furthermore, good tire/tyre shops will offer to replace the sealing orings in the existing sensors to prevent that kind of slow leak.
Finally I can relax, knowing that mr Vince had uploaded
It's about fixing time you got to the car!
I'm from the future. It's April 2045 and he is still fixing it.
The flat maybe the seal on the side of the tyre I had the same problem last year
While your son may say he’s not interested, I said the same thing to my dad when I was a kid. I regret it. I wish I would have watched him and learned and be taught things. Get him outside while you still can.
I would have left those wheel arch trims off until it had been resprayed .
Appears leaking whitewall on drivers side .. due to filler dust when you sanding it ??
I had a lot of fun watching this! Please keep up the good work!
you can always screw a new valve core in. no matter the type :) keep the battery over 12.6v 0.1v under takes 10% off lifetime :):)
MOT just is so insane to me. Being from the US, I bring in my 1976 Lincoln they throw a sticker on for $13 and say have fun!
you can easily call furniture clinic for more gauze material
Why didn't you do the paint and filler near head light while doing the other parts of gard ? That seat repair won't last you should have removed seat and cover an upholsterer could have sewn in a new piece .😊
I was starting to think you'd given up. Sometimes I hook my battery up to a trickle charger if it's really cold and sitting a while.
Tyre losing pressure is most probably either the Schrader valve leaking because its loose in the valve stem, if you have a Schrader valve removal tool (some iFixit kits have them) then check they are all tight.
Or it's leaking at the base of the valve stem between the wheel and the valve stem due to internal corrosion on the wheel where the valve stem seals to the wheel, not much you can do here without removing the tyre.
They look like standard valves to me so no reason they should not have changed them, you change the valves when changing the tyres as its just not worth the hassle for how cheap they are to replace.
I don't know when you had the tyres fitted if they cleaned the bead mating surfaces on the wheels and used bead sealer? Very common on such old wheels that the bead mating surfaces rust causing a leak especially on old steel wheels.
Pumping up the tyres to 40 / 45 psi won't do any harm as she is standing and will help a little with flat spotting. Leaving the parking brake off is also a thing to do to prevent it sticking on with her sitting. Just chock all the wheels.
The battery vents plugs that you removed, normally you only need to remove one plug and the car manufacturer provides a little drain tube that fits into the vent hole routed to the outside of the vehicle and allows any off gassing to vent externally. That pipe is probably long gone as people usually throw them away as they don't know what they are for.
With the spray nozzles on the paint cans blocking up, straight after you have used a nozzle to paint invert the can and spray it for a couple of seconds. The helps to blow out some of of the paint left in the nozzle.
If you have some acetone, paint thinner or brake cleaner in a pinch fill one of the can lids and let the nozzles soak. After a few minutes I take then out and blow them out with compressed air and scrub the nozzle with the brush to remove any paint. Important to keep them clean if you want a good finish.
You are too kind with the shout out Vince, I look forward to seeing her pass an M.O.T and back on the road.
As always Adam thanks for the advice and for once you weren't banished to the spam section. What is going on with the world!!!! 😂
@@MymatevinceRight I am off to buy my lottery ticket then 😁
@@APSuk2 😂😂 Don't forget your ole mate Vince if your numbers come in!!