Trying to FIX an OIL TRADER'S Apple MacBook 17" - Common Fault
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Here we have a 17" Apple MacBook A1297 that I purchased faulty from eBay quite a while ago. It has a very common fault. Let's see if it can work once again.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince. 
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I am immediately setting my wallpaper to a crab smoking a joint. It should already be one of the stock wallpapers you can choose. 😁
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Did you manage to find this wallpaper? :D
Cheers for the shoutout, and good job on the fix, nice and clean finish 👌
Thanks for watching Graham👍 Your voltage injection video helped me out massively a while ago. Keep up the great work😎
Wholesome conversation between 2 of my fav channels love to see it
Another great fix Vince. Yes, we do still get people bringing these machines in for repair, and yes, it was an absolute goldmine initially when the fault was originally discovered ( I believe it was Louis Rossmann or one of his techs who stumbled on it by "accident" ).
There's a similar situation developing with A1990 / A2141 type machines where the design of the case is causing SSD VREG caps to get corroded and short, however, sadly, in 80% of the cases it's discovered too late and people are losing all their data when the corrosion causes the VREG to push a little more than 2V5 on to the storage NANDs, however, if caught early enough, it's a 1 (or 2) cap quick replacement and out of the shop it goes again, complete with a protective blob of neutral silicone or even hotglue to protect from further damage.
If anyone reading this does have the 16" Macbooks, please please PLEASE backup your data NOW because your data will be most likely lost by the time the machine stops working from this corrosion issue.
Thank you Paul, this for me was a very satisfying fix, obviously helped by the videos from your good self, Graham and Louis. Thanks for the info on the A1990 and A2141, hopefully this will help me and others in the future. Hope your head has fully healed 👍👍👍👍
I had one of these, loved it. Loved the big big screen. It developed the same fault and I paid something like £160 to get it repaired! So you're right, I think it was a lucrative little repair job back in the day.
Cheers Andy 👍
@Lucas Gawor not really
@Lucas Gawor not really but yes really, if you’re visually impaired a 17 inch laptop is so worth it !
@Lucas Gawor my laptop is 15.6" and it isn't big for me
@Lucas Gawor The largest is either 20 or 21 anyway the largest I got is an 18 inch (M18x R2).
Actually, it is still a very viable computer. Up the memory and put in an ssd and it is a great machine. I use a 2011 17" as my daily driver.
Would it handle Logic Pro?
2011 with AMD graphic sucks, the graphic chips die and must be replaced (not reball!)
Vince when you wanted to fit a bigger cap, the way to expand the pads there was to scrape away the solder mask a bit. Also, if you use a jumper to reposition a cap, you have to make sure it's a very thick one otherwise it defeats the purpose. Overall another great video, keep them coming!
He really didn't need to extend the pad at all. He could've just tinned the pads and new capacitor, and then used flux and heat to attach it.
So happy to hear the My Mate Vince Massive bugeler is back!
That background though.... 😂😂😂😂
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I would have never though id hear the words "A Crab smoking a Joint" from Vince haha
Liked the shout out to Adamant IT, I am a patreon supporter of his as he produces genuinely excellent content.
That's really generous of u Vince to give the person a chance at there laptop back..we'll do e fella I really enjoyed this video..
I thought it'd be drenched in oil and there'd be some washing oil off the components. That cap resoldering was really gripping. Great repair
Graham from Adamantit is a VERY knowledgeable guy. well, well worth subscribing too, and his repair back catalogue is worthy of a scroll.
A crab smoking a joint? Reef 'r' madness?? 😎
That second Nvidia chip is also a GPU. It has two GPUs and switches between the two depending on the graphics needed. One GPU is focused on battery economy, the other for performance.
Well done. You can use two soldering irons, especially in situations where hot air is likely to affect other components (electrolytic caps etc.)
There is a thing called hot tweezers
If the component is not too big you can just heat on side until the other also melts.
My first fix ever was a capacitor issue. My brothers Xbox 360 wouldnt boot. A simple capacitor just needed to be removed and voila working Xbox. I chase that thrill watching your videos.
Sounds like the wife was cooking up something nice in the kitchen Vince, what time do you want me round for tea 😁
You need to run a battery calibration on it so it can set upper and lower limits for your battery.
Isn't that full charge, empty it until 10% and repeat that cycle?
What a great repair! It's maddening to think that a system can be throttled by that chip through! Good on ya! I think it's quite nice you're trying to find the owner. 👌
Vince invest in a pencil style soldering iron (USB Charge Version) that has a thin end as this could help you in tight areas.aIn high ground areas; back it up with the hot air gun at the same time.
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What a nice fix. One really tiny component again. I think the battery is kinda dead.
Nice one Vince. Another excellent repair job. I haven't worked on much apple stuff myself, but isn't it crazy how such a tiny capacitor can stop a whole laptop from working.
Nice laptop... I have a 2009 one with the matte screen. The original costs were
Original price: £1949.00 / $2799
Upgrade to matte screen: US$50
Upgrade to 8GB - $1,000
Upgrade to 256GB SSD - $800
TOTAL: $3799
Copper tape came in handy for me fixing a Nintendo switch USB port. Half a dozen ripped pads. Just cut thin strips off the end to make suitable jumpers
The way to use the low melt to use such a part is to put some on both side of the cap, then keep swapping your iron from side to side melting each side until the part comes away.
Well done Vince. Great fix and a very useful laptop now. Good luck with the trade off with the previous owner. Cheers Graham
18:53 I've done bits like this a lot, definitely want some solder on your iron when you tap the sides - the flux will make it flow right down under, onto the pad.
Nice simple repair, Vince. Good job as always.
I just remembered, don't you have the tweezer soldering iron. But then it's probably too big to work on this board.
Looking forward to the next one.
Until next time. Take care!
Shouldn't be too hard to find him. Keep us posted!!
Great video Vince! Definitely enjoyed that board level repair!! ☺️☺️
Nice one Chase, hope you keeping well. Thanks for watching 👍👍👍
Upgrade the ram and to a SSD, that MacBook will work perfectly. Also, that paste was long past due for a change.
Vince moving up in life, sorry couldn't resist the joke, LoL!
love in the background to your vids it sounds like there's always someone washing the dishes hahaha..... nice way to avoid!
Defiantly worth fixing with a SSD har drive fitted it will be quick and good for surfing the net, youtube and VLC s well as work uses
Such an easy fix for you Vince ..loved it
Just imagine if George is watching this video, Great video again Vince, Look forward to watching your next video
Wasn't expecting the crab.. lol
So nice to see 787k ppl watching. Support you from the begin. :)
Brought a similar one for 40 pounds. One of the ic was getting hot. Removed 2 caps next to it and been working great.
I actually have a 2010 MacBook Pro I use, it smells a bit and the battery is knackered but I plan on buying a Mac Studio to replace it, have an iPad Pro for mobile computing now.
Would love this MacBook... even with the remaining problems... Well done on fixing it.
I have two 17" Core i7 MacBooks. One late 2011 and one early 2012. One I essentially got for free buy selling off another MacBook that I fixed and the other I got for $50NZD both faulty that I fixed. Initially I fixed them by heating the GPU but this never lasted very long then I came across Louis Rossman and dosdude. I used a combination of dosdude nvram GPU disabler and then using opencore to further disable the GPU as well as running the latest version of MacOS. Haven't had any issues and the MacBooks have lasted over a year without issues where as before I would need to heat gun the GPU once every 3 months if in constant use. Anyway. Good job.
Id like that desktop background. lol
I prefer your laptop repairs to your other works. There's just something with the way the screen turns on after a long hard work that's just so satisfying to watch. Keep up the great work mate.
And kids this was the day blackmail Vince was born. xD
Great result, just watched the ending. Now you and me are even on easy Macbook repairs 😂
where is my giveaway switch Phil it's been like 3 months?
@@DeltaCmndrElite can you DM me on Discord, my email hasn't worked properly for a long time. If you can send me your address I'll get it out to you in the next day or 2, it's been sat on my shelf for quite some time
😂 Cheers Phil
I love watching your videos and it was crazy to see something I have! I bought mine as a present for my first real job I ever got out of college and still have it, and use it, today; it is my iAccessory docking device so I don't have to put iTunes on my main PC lol. I will have to keep an eye out on mine for the capacitor death. Thank you so much for your video, this will absolutely help me in the future!!!
The Sattelite Pro A300 series was plagued with Tokin failure, i own one and somehow it still works.
What an interesting little fix Vince! Well executed :)
Great fix and research beforehand. You should invest a few pounds in a IPA dispenser. No more spillin those bottle caps. Look out for nail polish dispenser
I'd love to see another original wii repair you have so many nintendo repairs but only 1 wii video I could find.
Well that’s my new desktop wallpaper right there 😂
Swap an old HDD to SSD and put 16GB of ram, that will be a pretty good machine, I had one of these.
Nice to see you used some flux with that low melt solder there Vince!
Love the MacBook vids vince and watching you try to fix them
Got the same laptop with the same fault so will have to order the capacitor as i didn't fancy messing with the GPU which I originally thought
So pleased you shouted out @Adamant it Great channel, really helpful.
Hey Vince, can you go back to putting in the spoiler saver place holder comment? Not bashing anyone for making a comment but it takes all the fun out the video if I already know its fixed. :(
Nice one Vince great video and repair 👍
Luckily IPA is a non consumable what with all your accidental spillage and the need to replenish all that alcohol,🤣
APU I dropped yo a 👉👍👈
The GPU is the bottom nVidia chip. You can see the memory footprint next to it or you can notice from the GPU name/part number :)
Fantastic result =D
The capacitor actually powers the MCP on this model, not the GPU :)
There is however the same issue on the 15' 2010 MBPs, where the same kind of capacitor does fail which does cause GPU issues :)
i wish i could find a cheap mac that works or thats an easy fix since i never owned a mac and wanna try mac os plus your videos plus a few others makes me wanna try to repair things like this
i did get a friend/coworkers macbook air working by opening and cleaning the dreaded service port that loves to kill macbook airs
Has George the Oil Trader from London been in touch yet?
I always love watching the laptop repair videos. Maybe you could get a hold of an iPad or something similar to repair? Either that or some more mac/windows laptops would be cool. (More electronics in general) Love the channel as always
Inductors can be sensitive to the direction they are fitted especially in RF circuits. A dot on the schematic shows the direction of winding. 👍
Probably true for RF but for a switching power supply it's not an issue.
Great video Vince!! Back in the day before apple slowed the machine to force you to replace the battery.
Great fix well done Vince
Amazing video Vince!
Those ngreedia chipsets (LGA 775 and AM1/2 era) run hotter than hell on a good day never mind bake to death.
i havent watched vince in a while glad to come back to his videos
another great fix there, Vince. 👍
Congrats on another Mac Book success.
"It was rather expensive" for a macbook is like burger and buns, they go together hand in hand, but may not be the best every time :P
Great video Vince
If not claimed, wonder how much shipping would be
Nice fix Vince
But did George reach out in the end? need closure!!!!!
Actually it’s got dual GPU graphics… Nvidia 9400m and 9600m AFAIR. Awesome job!
So much for the graphics card because I always thought the old Macbooks would die because of the graphics card, but that's probably not the case as you can see, respect 100 euros and everything is still available, not bad, but you also need such accessories as you have To save the circuit board, just a question, what are you doing with all the MacBooks to sell again 🙂😎🤔
Vince why didn’t you just move one of the other caps that was the same rating to there and put the bigger one somewhere else, their was two in parallel right next to it with plenty of space around them.
yeah, I was also thinking the same
I think that device is still very usable, ssd and install windows 10 on it. Good working machine!
Trying. To. Fix an oil. Traders. APPLE. MacBook 17. - common. Fault
Soldering license revoked.
Nice one Vince! 👏
29:10 What you do there really is a bad habit. One shouldn't be touching the contacts of the system memmory because of the possibility of electostatic discharge. A RAM module on it's own is supposedly especially sensible to that and they might not simply end up clearly broken, but damage can also just result in an instable system.
Obviously you'll also leave skin grease behind, which surely won't be advantagious for the contacts either.
Much of the ESD danger can be mitigated by having proper climate in your work space. Humidification is required. Dropping humidity below 30% is not good. 45-50% and you will not build charges the usual ways. Your point is valid though.
@@TechGorilla1987 you can also use an antistatic wristband to prevent ESD from happening.
@@CautionusJay Agreed.
If you find the guy please make a vidoe when he get it back :)
Apple products suck I would never purchase one but I like seeing how to fix things so I'll watch it
Use flux before your solder always
I put an SSD into my laboriously slow HP Elitebook and pow it runs like the clappers, being a workstation laptop though it only has the nVidia Quadro Mobile graphics so it doesn't like games much but for video work it is superb and I have put about 100gb of emulation stuff and all my ebooks just in case I go into hospital. I paid £14 with free delivery for a 500gb 2.5" SSD with a legit copy of Windows 10 installed ready to activate, I think that is a brilliant bargain as a licence key for Win 10 is prob more.
good job mate.
I'm sitting hear in Liverpool watching this on exactly the same laptop I bought in the Florida Mall for $2.500 I fitted 16 gig of Ram and a 1 TB Drive from Crucial took less than half hour to fit them plus load the program easy it takes no more than three minutes to boot and I'm on the WEB in 4 mins you cannot do this on the modern day ones
Thanks for the great video as always! Out of curiosity have you checked on the Contacts app if there's a default profile with his details?
Thanks, I found an email address but he hasn't replied. I will try again in another week in case he thinks it is spam 👍👍
What is the heat pipe up near 27:20?
I honestly can't imagine who or why someone would need to carry around this goliath of a laptop and I already know that has to weigh as much as a car wheel
It's 3 Kg, Not the lightest laptop around, but probably the lightest 17" laptop in 2011. There might have been some plasticky PC laptop with a horrible screen and unusable trackpad, but to get some top quality you'd have to lug around something like a 5 Kg Alienware M17.
If you were a photographer or movie maker and you needed the real estate, this was the best, sturdiest, most reliable machine you could get.
very common....you forgot this apples to a 2009 model.....it was good easy money 3 yrs ago...no longer
I e-mailed the address in your profile but the person who replied said “you must have me mistaken for someone else”!
You’re still up for looking at my Game Boy Color, aren’t you?
Vince - if you know the owner's name, surely you can track him down directly? I agree, it would be great to give it back with all the photos - so many people DON'T back their stuff up, so there's a good chance the owner doesn't have them himself. Please update us if you find him. Cheers.