Sabbath: Jesus Or Day? (May 25-31, 2024, Q2L9)
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2025
- Commentary of "The Foundation of God's Government" (May 25-31, 2024)
Weekly Sabbath School Lesson Commentary and Adventist Fact Check with Colleen Tinker
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The devil has used you powerfully,
He his smiling while you mislead.
The Adventist family are keeping you in their prayers.
@@MathewJonathan-ur5wh I pray that the Holy Spirit will remove the veil over the hearts and minds of those who are snared in the false SDA counterfeit Christian organization. I pray they will understand that Jesus Christ came in a human body, not as a behavioral example, but to die and shed His blood in our place. That He was buried and rose 3 days later, defeating the penalty of death that should have been ours to pay, all according to scripture.
Sometimes I wish we were confident enough in Christ and his work in fulfilling the scripture that we can drop the denominationalism and know that Christ is Lord of the church not denominations
You misleading people who keep God's moral law which Jesus Christ depended very well and Jesus's death nailed the ceremonial laws. John 14:15...if you love me, keep my commandments......Mathew 5:17...Jesus said, He did not come to destroy the laws but to full fill....Your suggestion are misleading as a agent of Apostate Church....The only church that is ready for Jesus's second coming is SDA Church you like it or not....
AD 538 TO 1798 ( 42 MONTHS 0R 1260 YEAR PROPHECY - EXPLAIN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO KILL 50 TO 60 MILLIONS OF Sabbath Keepers ( Dark ages) ..... you are lost - SDA IS THE LAST END TIME CHURCH FULL FILLING GOD'S SPREADING THE GOSPEL.....ECHOES OF TRUTH MINISTRY.
You're misleading the people in your interpretation of the Bible.
You talking about the ceremonal laws which was nailed to the cross.. But the Moral law writen by God's own finger remains eternal
The Sabbath day by its definition is a ceremony. For something to be moral by definition whether written by God’s finger or spoken by God, has to be true 24 hours a day 7 days a week. It’s only when we are born again by accepting the gospel as defined in 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 that we have Sabbath rest. But this is the person Jesus Christ, when we believe we are placed in Christ, this is our position forever. It’s not a day (shadow) but it is our Lord and Savior and His finished work on our behalf.
@@jimlileyamen, sda's just dont get it and hiw decieved they really are
There is no temple, hence the ceremonial laws are not practiced. God has zero tolerance for human sacrifice.
Very well said
@@jimlileybrother how can you say the sabath day is a ceremonial law, to what this sabath day was showing? When we say it is a ceremonial law we reffer to a law that is from the sacriface of the lambs in the court of the tabernacle or in the court of the temple, those sacrifaces of the lamb showed to the real sacriface of Jesus Christ. To what was reffering a sabath day in a sacriface ceremony? It is a law, that God want to give to us, is a moral law between Him and us, He being the creator and we just the creation He could ask from us, everything that He wants to, it doesnt matter what He wants, if He says dont eat that forbiden fruit, we should do that, if He says rest in a particular day, the one which I say so, we should do it, and don t ask question, and If we love Him, we will obey His requests. So another point is, that the seventh sabath rest day was given at the creation, read Genesis, he said he made the seventh day He sanctified it and He rest it, if He rest in it He told Adam and Eve to do it, and also everyone whom accepted God. And also you said in another comment that the sabath of the seventh day it is not a sign of God but read Ezekiel 20:12: Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them" so, He made the seventh day, He rested, and He gave this sabath days to man as a sign between God and man, and whomsoever is obeying that is it sanctified. That is what Bible says not me, so if God has sign, and satan the dragon, is just a copycat of God, he has a sign to, which is another day, not the seventh day, but the first day. And I tell you soon very soon USA goverment will gave a national law about this day, and will compel through law every man, slave or free, rich or poor to accept this day, and they will do that ofcourse, except the truly repent SDA, and then the division will be clear as day, and as it is said in Revelation those who will accept this mark of the beast will persecute those who dont. And one thing is for sure, which you will need to look for to be sure which is the tru remenent church, is that they are a few, when you will see all the world against us, SDA, the people who obey all the law of the true God, just a few, you will remember this comment, but I pray to God for you that may not be to late😢, cuz this is the sad part 🥺🙏
Fulfilled doesn’t mean abolish or destroy. It means to establish.
"Fulfill" does not mean "establish". Fulfill means "To bring into actuality; effect or make real.
"fulfilled their promises; fulfilled her dream."
To do, perform, or obey (a task or order, for example); carry out.
To meet (a requirement or condition); satisfy. synonym: satisfy.
Similar: satisfy
To use Paul's example in Galatians, to fulfill a will or a trust, it requires the person's death. The trustee then distributes all the value held in the estate. When the estate is distributed to those appointed to receive it, the will or trust is "fulfilled" and is no longer binding. The assets have been distributed. The Old Covenant was fulfilled when the Lord Jesus died and broke the curse of the law by paying for sin and rising from death. Now He has inaugurated a NEW covenant IN his blood, and when we trust Him, we enter all the benefits of the new covenant. The old covenant is FULFILLED and is no longer binding. That is what Jesus meant when He said He came not to abolish but to fulfill the law. I did not abolish my mother's living trust when I managed the distribution of her assets upon her death. I fulfilled her trust. It is finished. The beneficiaries received their benefits, and the trust, or the covenant promising the distribution of her assets, is completed and is no longer binding.
THE TEXT CLEARLY TEACH BY FAITH I ESTABLISHED THE LAW
The law is a delight to serve god, not a burden. If you love me keep my commandments. Its to show you the character of god, and make you hate sin. And go after gods heart. Here are patients of the saints that keep the faith of jesus and his commandments. the prophets inthe bible loved gods law and thanked him.
Amen! Christ said in, John 14:15..."If you love me KEEP my commandments." We are told in Revelation 14:12 "HERE are the patience of the saints HERE are they that KEEP the commandments of God.. " Amen!
THE CHARACTER OF GOD R NOT MANMADE LAWS BUT JESUS
@@Trillproductions89GOD'S COMMANDEMENTS R NOT CONFINED TO THE DÉCALOGUE. THE DÉCALOGUE DOES NOT COMMAND U TO FORGIVE UR ENEMIES,
DO NOT SHOW PARTIALITY TO OTHERS,
SHOW THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT
I always ask my 7th days Adventist woman friend this; If you go for evangelism, what would be your message to those you're reaching out to, sabbath or salvation through Jesus Christ? She never answered this question till today.....I told her that she's suffering in VAIN, and that rewards are only for those who suffered because of Jesus Christ as they went about preaching him to the world and persecuted and even k!lled for that reason as the Apostles were. I keep telling her that none of the Apostles were h@ted and k!lled for preaching law or Sabbath, but for preaching Jesus Christ as the ONLY WAY TO SALVATION.
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They weren't persecuted for preaching the law because the early church still kept the commandments so there was no need to tell them they were in error, however many of the Old testament prophets were hated and killed for telling the Israelites to stop sinning and breaking the law of God, in many cases the Sabbath
Yehovah saved Israel and gave them rest to celebrate His mighty acts!! When you are saved by God’s grace , then sabbath comes easy. Unless you want to live life by your own terms and according to your will.
Why are you mixing up the ceremonial Law with the MORAL Law ?
It is written “ Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils, And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment “ Luke 23:56 We are saved through Jesus Christ but we keep the Sabbath because we Love Jesus. It is written “ If you love me you will keep my commandments “ John 14:15🙏 Jesus and Apostle Paul kept the Sabbath. It is written “ So he came to Nazareth were he had been brought up and as his custom he entered into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up to read “Luke 4:16 🙏 “ Then Paul as his custom was , went in to them for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the scriptures” Acts 17:2🙏
They kept the Sabbath before there was even a Jew and Joseph knew that adultery was a sin.
Bible verse?
What is interesting is that Jesus Christ clashed with the Pharisees who were schooled in the law of Moses about working on the Sabbath. Jesus Christ performed most of His healing miracles on the Sabbath and the Pharisees didn't like it one bit . Jesus even told them in Mark chapter 2 that HE IS THE LORD OF THE SABBATH . This he said because He wanted to clarify to the legalistic Pharisees that as God in the flesh , He was greater than the Law of Moses , which He as God wrote . The Lord of the Sabbath had come , and with His sacrificial death on the Cross and resurrection , He became the fulfilment of our "Sabbath rest." The salvation we have in Christ Jesus has made the Old Covenant which included the Law of Moses is no longer binding under the Covenant of Grace. When Jesus said in Mark 2 : 27 "THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN AND NOT THE MAN FOR SABBATH , "HE was attesting to the fact that , just as the Sabbath day , was originally instituted to give man rest from his labors .Jesus Christ came to provide us rest from laboring to achieve our own salvation by our own weeks . Because of His sacrifice on the Cross , we can now forever cease from labouring to attain God's favour and rest in His mercy and grace .
@@Ronriko1 The 7th day Sabbath was established at creation, Gen. 2:1-3. This, was THOUSANDS of years before the Jewish nation.
GALATIANS 4,4 FOR WHEN THE TIME HAD FULLY COME GOD SENT HIS SON BORN OF A WOMAN BORN UNDER THE LAW TO REDEEM THOSE UNDER THE LAW 😮
@@Trillproductions89NO IT WAS NOT IT WAS GOD'S REST NOT MANS REST
I was treated by my SDA friends like a second-class Christian because I said I would not celebrate the Sabbath. I asked my SDA friends - Are you doing EVERYTHING that God commanded you to do in Leviticus 23? Why not? He commanded them, but you ignore them because EGW did not tell you to keep them. So at the end of the day, you put the word of EGW above the word of God. This is what every cult does.
We do exactly what the fourth commandment says, we don't do all the extras because those were manmade extras out upon the people by men, not God. Jesus spoke on this when rebuking the Pharisees for actually accusing Christ of breaking the Sabbath, when he only broke their man made traditions of what to do and not do on that day. Amen
@@Perseverance4477 The Fourth Commandment is not part of the New Covenant and the Old Covenant won't Save you.
@@Perseverance4477what do you do on the sabbath?
The Ten Commandments are Gods moral Laws , not works of the Law . They are all don’t do laws., don’t steal, don’t covet, don’t commit adultery. No work involved.If you sinned broke Gods don’t do laws. Then you had to do works of law, sacrifices, attend festivals. Leviticus 23 . It is written “ For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law” Romans 3:28 We no longer have to do Works of the Law.
@@Perseverance4477I’m asking what do specifically to keep the sabbath, tell me your do’s and do nots
If the scripture is the word of God, whoever trying to modify those words means (OVERRIDE THE LORD'S OWN MESSAGE).
It is wrong to add human speculation to what God has said... No one can improve on GOD'S WORD, it does not need to be amended, it should be believed and obeyed.
PROVERBS 30:6
To make a final decision on the Sabbath, One: we should physically experience Jesus in ourselves, two: consider all the books of the Bible to make a final conclusion.
Who blame Jesus of breaking the sabbath? Dis the disciples blame Him so? On which side are you madam?
We all can justify almost anything if we depend on our own thought process. In fact, Hosea 8:7 puts it this way, "They sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind.”
False teachers have been sowing lies on social media and have been reaping blind followers. I pray that they will realize the impact of what they’re doing before it’s too late. This is a serious matter because it will affect the eternal destiny of others. May that ray of truth shine in your darkened understanding. God loves you.
THIS REMINDS ME OF FALSE PROPHET ELLEN
The Lord said, " Let them make me a Sanctuary that I may dwell among them. Ex. 25:8. Then th we Lord commanded Moses hiw to build that Sanctuary. Ex. 25:9- 27:21
Why not preach your theory rather than trying to check and refute others' teaching.
She just did bubba,but Adventist love to hear egw fables instead...
@@waynecharles7346 As a Former SDA she is trying to help. Other sdas to come to know the truth. She is doing very fine. Because sdas are known for accusing other denomination and can't accept others faith and teachings. It is rightfully and a good idea for a former SDA to advice and help others that still hanging on these three angels.lies.
@@waynecharles7346 You know, I learned the TRUTH about the 7th day Sabbath and MANY other truths that SDA's have by reading the BIBLE for myself. I didn't even know about EGW until about 6-7 months after being an SDA. This lady, in this video, I can't BELIEVE the twisting of the Scriptures and of EGW she is doing. Very laughable. And those that know what is going on in the world we are living, and they KNOW the Bible and SOP they will saved. This lady is leading folks down the wrong path. WOW!
Traditional demands...was under it for a long time... Heard the gospel message and left...really enjoyed this message 👍
The Almighty God is sufficient through Jesus Christ our messiah.
Those who fight for religion regardless of which are lost.
Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you in doing the will of God.
There is confusion in this presentation so madam how do you explain Gen 2:2-3 , John 14: 15 , Heb7: 25 and Jesus said He is the Lord of the Sabbath
All is carefully examined in the video, which you apparently didn’t watch.
Matt. 5:17-19 tells us that the way of God (the 10 commandments) continues. Paul says "should we then do away with the law, he says God forbid". If you remove the 4th commandment could you live with that? The Sabbath commandment tells who it is that made the earth and laws of eternity. They help us find God's true church. You are the one making so much of the Sabbath. Can you discuss the lesson without bring the Sabbath up?
Romans 13:8-9
[8]Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
[9]For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
Matthew 19:17-19
[17]So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
[18]He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’
[19]‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
@@kelvinmakanta3720
Do you think we should ignore the commandments not mentioned? It goes without saying that Jesus was referring to all 10 commandments. Are you thinking the others are no longer? Surely you wouldn't drop so many, but you may think that the fourth is what Jesus was trying to remove. Jesus would have just come out and been specifically clear. And surely Jesus would not say, "pray that your flight be NOT on the Sabbath."
You are trying too hard to get rid of Sabbath. How would it be to have a day in 7 just to focus on God and family. I would take it so I could be resting in Him. But lazy people rest every day, but I don't think that is what God had in mind.
How many commandments did Israel's law have?
@@douganthes6250 and according to Jesus, what must I do in order to have eternal life?
If you are reading the sabbath school lesson, why should you tell us not to read? We should read and use our own reasoning.. it seems you enjoy the lesson every week even though your motive is to criticize.God is the only judge who can read people hearts! You are taking the position of God when you say that SDA don’t believe in Jesus. Are you Jesus?
Colleen is using Scripture to expose the errors of Adventist theology. She knows firsthand the warped view of Christ that is taught. It is not usurping God’s role in warning others. Much of the letters of the apostle John are warnings against heretical teaching.
She is doing you a favour because cultic thinking needs to be exposed. Those under it are always victims.
Pay attention to what she is saying. There is so much truth in what she is saying.🙏
@@jandelavega No, she's twisting the Scriptures as well as EGW. I've shared a ton of Scriptures on this thread that debunks everything she is saying.
@@MorganKaiulo Not at all truth.
1 John 3:4. "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." Please explain this if the law does not define sin.
Amen
Saturday didn’t die for me
No, Christ did. And, He kept the Sabbath Luke 4:16. They kept the Sabbath even AFTER Christ had died.. Luke 23:56.
Repent and obey God's SABBATH.
Colossians 2:16-17 Jesus said I am the way the truth and life no one goes to the Father except by me.
@@tasiaflynn3549 Colossians 2:16-17, are speaking about the YEARLY sabbaths. Not the 7th day WEEKLY Sabbath that is in the Ten Commandments. You are also quoting John 14:6, but yet, have Colossians 2:16,17 here.
@@Trillproductions89REALLY? SO SABBATHS MEAN ONLY THE YEARLY?
WERE U A SLAVE IN EYGPT
@@Trillproductions89NO IT IS NOT THE FEASTS WERE ALREADY MENTIONED IN THE VERY TEXT
How is the heavenly sanctuary not a Biblical thing? It's written all about in Hebrews.
The 1984 version is a sham.
The message being driven here is that you cannot institute a doctrine on a scriptural matter that is vague and not specifically instructed - the sanctuary in Hebrews is symbolic.
Remember the Sabbath day to Keep it Holy that is (GODS) REQUIREMENTS
A-men! His remnant people.
Ive been a seventh day adventist for 12 yrs now. Its the only church that I have found that keeps the whole truth according to the bible. This is what I personally have found. We worship Jesus in our church. We dont worship Ellen G White. Im sorry if you feel that your previous sda church did. That is not right and should have been addressedand corrected before you left. We believe she was a prophet just like all the other prophets that God chose. The prophets have to line up with the bible 100% to be prophets of God.They are just people that truly love God and obey His word. They are not to be lifted above Jesus.
My question is why do you bash the SDA church instead of preaching the Word of God?
Also, why do you ignore scriptures like Matthew 19:17 and Rev. 22:14?
I was a Seventh-day Adventist for over 40 years. If you knew that a bridge had been washed out, would you feel any need to warn those who were heading towards that now fallen bridge? We care about and love those with whom we used to go to Adventist meetings, were our fellow work mates, our former bosses and employees, and former family and friends. But the Adventist bridge is not there. Here's a start for your research: Ellen White contradicts the Bible over fifty times: www.truthorfables.com/EGW_Contradicts.htm
God chose Ellen White as a prophet? Where can we read that in the Bible? Is that what SDA believe?
What whole truth do speak about? Is allowing women to speak in church meetings truth?
Is preaching tithing truth? Is angel Michael Jesus? Are women in the church supposed to cover their heads?
Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath. The fouth commandment is a reminder to keep the Sabbath which was there immediately after the creation. Do we now rest on any day because man has decided so?
The original Ark of the covenant is in the heavenly sanctuary and within it are the Ten commandments which includes the Sabbath day. They were written by God's hand.
Dear YOU NEVER read this in the Bible "Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath. The fouth commandment is a reminder to keep the Sabbath which was there immediately after the creation"
HERESY if not BLASPHEMY. I'd run and hide and REPENT SINNER!
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WHAT ADVENTISM TEACHES: (HERESY)
The Sabbath is eternally binding upon men from creation.
Seventh-day Adventism says the Sabbath was made for mankind in general and was given to Adam in the Garden of Eden. Sabbath-keeping, therefore, is a sign of loyalty to God, the Creator.
God instituted the Sabbath in Eden; and so long as the fact that He is our Creator continues to be a reason why we should worship Him, so long the Sabbath will continue as its sign and memorial. ...The keeping of the Sabbath is a sign of loyalty to the true God. The Great Controversy, p. 386).
The Sabbath was kept by Adam in his innocence in holy Eden; by Adam, fallen yet repentant, when he was driven from his happy estate. It was kept by all the patriarchs, from Abel to righteous Noah, to Abraham, to Jacob. GC p. 398.
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What the Bible teaches:
1. The seventh day, though mentioned in Gen. 2:2-3, We find no command to keep a Sabbath. The Sabbath was first mentioned in Exodus 16 and was not given to anyone until it was given to Israel in the wilderness (Ne. 9:13-14).
2. The sabbath was given, not to mankind in general, but to Israel alone as a special covenant sign between her and God (Ex. 31:13,17).
3. Ellen White added to Scripture in teaching that Adam and the patriarchs kept the sabbath. The Bible says absolutely nothing about this. In fact, it cannot be true. If the sabbath had been kept by mankind in general from the creation, it could not have been given as a special sign to Israel.
For further understanding, get yourself a book from Ebay (its cheaper that way be a good Stewart with your funds in your pocket). It is called Biblical Literacy by Rabbi Joseph Telushkin. Highly recommend this book.
You said "The original Ark of the covenant blah blah blah" Heresy alert.
First: The law wasn't placed inside the ark of the covenant. The law was the Torah: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. And it was not placed in the ark.
Second: Only the Ten Commandments were placed inside the ark. But the New Testament attaches absolutely NO significance whatsoever to this fact.
Third: The most important commandments -- (1) love the Lord with all your heart and (2) love your neighbor as yourself -- were not placed inside the ark.
Fourth: Therefore, the commandments that were placed inside the ark were of LESS importance and LESS significance than those placed outside.
Fifth: When Jesus said, a NEW commandment give I unto you, he was giving NEW commandments because the OLD commandments were being done away with. Therefore, the need for the new.
Sixth: Nine of the Ten Commandments were RENEWED in the New Testament in improved form. The only one that wasn't was the Fourth. You will not find the Fourth Commandment, the Seventh-day Sabbath Commandment, in the New Testament.
Seventh: The Fourth Commandment's DAY-LONG rest was fulfilled in the New Testament in the New Covenant's ETERNITY-LONG rest in Jesus Christ.
Eighth: Nowhere in the New Testament will you find the idea that only the Ten Commandments are now written on the fleshy tablets of our hearts. The whole law (Genesis through Deuteronomy) is written there. But in a different and improved form: And that form is the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ. And the objective reality we look to for guidance in how we conduct our lives must be, first and foremost, the words and acts of Jesus Christ as recorded in the New Testament. This informs the rest of the New Testament, such as Paul's letters. And the whole New Testament, in turn, informs the Old Testament. Not the other way around.
BIBLICAL TRUTHS.
Hebrews 9:22 NIV
22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Romans 5:8 NIV
8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
1 John 1:9 NIV
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 3:4 NIV
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
1 John 2:4 KJV
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Matthew 5:17-19 KJV
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Revelation 12:17 KJV
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
SUMMARY:
The ten commandments do not save us but show us what sin is. Sin is lawlessness.
Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. Jesus shed his blood for us.
The bible is clear about these requirements.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
1 Peter 2:24 NIV
24 “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”
Romans 8:1NIV
Life Through the Spirit
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
Revelation 11:19 NIV
19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.
1 John 2:1NIV
2 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
@@terrygreenman1540 BIBLICAL TRUTHS.
Hebrews 9:22 NIV
22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Romans 5:8 NIV
8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
1 John 1:9 NIV
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 3:4 NIV
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
1 John 2:4 KJV
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Matthew 5:17-19 KJV
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Revelation 12:17 KJV
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
SUMMARY:
The ten commandments do not save us but show us what sin is. Sin is lawlessness.
Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. Jesus shed his blood for us.
The bible is clear about these requirements.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
1 Peter 2:24 NIV
24 “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”
Romans 8:1NIV
Life Through the Spirit
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
Revelation 11:19 NIV
19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.
1 John 2:1NIV
2 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
@@terrygreenman1540 Genesis 2:1-2
New International Version
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.
Romans 3:31
New International Version
31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
So where is your fellowship now that you left adventism. Just curious.
Catholic Church???? LOL.
Dosnt the 7th day harken back to the creation week, where God rested on the 7th day from all His work ?
You believe GOD get tired my friend? You know who you talking about? He spoke creation into existence. Why you have been taught to refer to creation rest as an argument like see GOD rest or sabbath.
I suggest you first get the Hebrew translation of GOD rest in Genesis mean CEASE it means Completed.
Since then if you say you follows scripture you won't find one person keeping that rest of Genesis from Adam until Moses when God gave them sabbath.
In the last days commandments keepers including sabbath commandment are Satan's special target. Revelation 12:17
Sabbath Keepers stoned Stephen for worshipping on The Lord's Day.
Stephen kept the sabbath.
@@dontfeedthepirates Nope
Bible says the law was a shadow of things to come. This means there's an original. So can the shadow of an image be different from its original?
The law was a shadow of things TO COME, not of things that already existed. The lambs were shadows of Jesus. The sabbath was a shadow of Jesus (Col 2:16 17). The whole law was a shadow of the "good things TO COME" (Heb. 10:1). It was not a shadow of literal things in heaven...but Hebrews says it was a pattern after the likeness of heavenly things. Those heavenly things were the actual reality of God's provision for humanity: the incarnate Lord Jesus. The law was a shadow and a "witness" (Romans 3:21) of the righteousness that was APART FROM THE LAW that was going to be realized in Jesus' shed blood, His burial and resurrection. The law is said to be a shadow of things TO COME, not of pre-existing furniture and heavenly tables of stone!
With respect you are the most confused person I have ever listened to
Can you please show me where the Bible said what you just explained about the 3 angels messages .
@@FormerAdventist
@@angel-lasmart7911 Amen!
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I think the presenter is trully is very confuse, she didn't even understand the lesson n the text of the bible
You are yourself confused friend!
Romans 7:16 Paul says the law is Good: "If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good."
To be clear that which Paul was speaking to on Colossian 2:14,15 was the ceremonial law of types which were pointing to the cross and all it involves.
James 1:25 does not speak of the 10 commandments as hostile to us Note: "But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed." Why would he or any other person who loves God and his or her fellow man or woman think the a law that a low tht prohibits murder to encourages obedience to parent or prohibits adultry to be hostile to them?
Now I really understood.. Could advise me of which day will I worship. please assist me
There are no "holy days" designated in the new covenant. Romans 14:5, 6 says that some people keep one day, others keep another. Each person is to be convinced in his own mind. Acts 15 said no commands of the law were to be mandated for gentile believers; they were receiving the Holy Spirit as they believed the good news of Jesus' finished atonement WITHOUT knowing or coming under the law. When we are in Christ, we enter His rest-an eternal rest that is ours through faith by His grace given to us in Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection. Christians meet together on Sunday not because Sabbath was changed; Sabbath was never changed. Rather, the Lord Jesus FULFILLED it. We now worship Him, and we meet together on the first day because that is the day He rose from death; that is the day the church was formed!
@@ColleenTinker Roman 14:1 sets the tone for that passage. You are taking it out of context. This passage is speaking on FAST DAYS. The issue revolved around fast days not Sabbath days. They kept the 7th day Sabbath even after Christ had died, Luke 23:56. God refers to His end time people as commandment keeping people, Revelation 14:12 and Revelation 22:14.. And we need to remember that the law is at a whole James 2:8-12. So, is stealing ok? etc, etc? NO!
Pray for this sister oneday she will realize who make her confuse and blind her that is Satan.
[Rom 8:26-27 LSB] 26 And in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness, for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for [us] with groanings too deep for words; 27 and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to [the will of] God.
@@FormerAdventist You need prayer badly! All you did is twist the Scriptures and what EGW meant.
If one loves Jesus Christ one would like to please Him by keeping His Commandments including the fourth one.
As a Christian, I want to please the Lord Jesus by trusting Him and believing that He has paid for all my sins by His death. No where in the letters to the churches, or in Jesus' teachings is a command or even a mention that we Christians must worship on the seventh day. In fact, just the opposite is stated (Romans 14:5,6).
My Jesus keep the Sabbath. You people are attacking Jesus,not the SDA church. Repent and obey
My Sabbath is Sunday. That is the day I choose to worship on. Romans 14 5-7.
@@trainsdawgz read Hebrews 4 4-8 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Sabbath is a day blessed, hallowed and sanctified by the creator God's word. To treat or attempt to observe any other day as if it were declared holy by the Creator of time is to make no difference between the holy and the profane or ordinary.
The Adventist's reasoning is Jesus and his disciples were Jewish and So all Christians are required to be Jewish., TO BE SAVED. FALSE. That's already been tried before and judged heresy by the Apostles.
• Preaching that Christians and Gentile nations are obligated to keep the Sabbath is heresy and a MORTAL SIN. The matter was formerly addressed in the Council of Jerusalem in Acts15-16:4. A decree of the Catholic Church by the Apostles was sent out to the Churches to leave the Gentiles alone, and *"The Holy Spirit"* , ie, God Almighty confirmed the Apostolic Decree and the matter was forever settled leaving anyone who objects and preaches others, *"Anathema"* All the Sabbath keepers are doing is *"Troubling them which believe among the Gentiles" and subverting the faith of the that set forth by the Apostles*. You are officially condemned by Apostolic decree, do matter what you or the SDA or your countless splinter groups TRY to justify by the scriptures. The Sabbath keepers would do well and "Shut up" Rom. 3:19
• *Those who preach heresy will be cast out of the kingdom of God and thrown into everlasting torment!*
• *The matter is CLOSED, PERIOD,* the Apostles and Bishops put and END to the discussion by their own authority of the Church,* no matter what the SDA or anyone else says! The Sabbath keepers would be better off biting off their tongues and fingers, than to keep preaching their heresy
AND CHRIST NEVER SAID, CLAIMED OR IMPLIED THE 10 COMMANDMENTS WERE *"HIS COMMANDMENTS"*
Question - Did Jesus have to keep the Torah perfectly to be Gods perfect sacrifice?
Jesus is God, therefore He is perfect.
@@FormerAdventist Please reread my question, because I do not believe that was part of his mission, to keep the Torah perfectly.
@@FormerAdventist Because he is God, not because He kept the Torah perfectly?
@@davidmarham9272 But God is perfect. His law is perfect converting the soul.. Psalm 19:7.
Psalm 19:7
Since you say the other 9 commandments are good and you must not keep Sabbath, your at 90%. "If you break 1 you break all." Keeping the Sabbath is not that painful, but it's a full day with Christ and peace and rest. Keeping the law is the same, it's blessed. I'm imerfect, no but it's heaven's recipe for peace and harmony for eternity.
Romans 14 5-7. "One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind".
@@trainsdawgzbrother, please read the whole chapter, don t read it out of context...in that chapter the it is reffering about days of fasting, days of ceremonial rest etc, it doesnt say nothing about a the sabath, the seventh day sabath, thats holy. It is law!
@@trainsdawgz
This not referring to the moral law. Matthew 5:17-19.
Revelation.: " here are they that keep the commandments of God and way Christ"
@douganthes6250 We all are sinners. I do not think these charges are valid.
@@trainsdawgz
If you want to do your own thing, and you want to have a gospel according to you by not regarding all scriptures interpretation you can force a belief that is not Bible based.
What is sin?
Sin is breaking God's law, 1 John 3:4. Romans 7:7 Paul tells us he would not even have known what sin was if it wasn't for the law.
I really appreciate your critiques. i need some clarfication...1stly, you are avoiding the fact that Sabath was part of the creation..doesnt it says REMEMBER the Sabath in the 10 Commandment after 2 thousand years later.. 2ndly..after Jesus died and rose, why were the disciples keeping and preaching on the Sabath ?? Explain..3rdly, when the Antichrist declares a day of rest and worship called " Earth Sabath " with a death decree....I still worship on the Earth Sabath and go to heaven. Explain please..
I defer to Colleen’s explanation, but I will share how I would answer the questions you asked.
1. There was a Sabbath rest (the cessation of creating) but this was not a 24 hour period of time, it was a never ending Sabbath. No more creating needed to be done.
When reading the bible we have to ask who, when and why it was written. Is it a descriptive or prescriptive passage? For the Christian it would be a descriptive passage when God said to remember, understanding that ‘remember’ can apply for past instruction as well as future application. There is an element of creation rest(cessation) also God had given the Israelites an example when providing the manna 6 days and not on the 7th day. The Sabbath for the Christian is a type for the finished work of Christ the anti-type. We as Christian’s enter into the never ending Sabbath rest when we are born again. The person of Christ is our Sabbath, not a day given to Israel when in the desert.
2. That the disciples kept and preached on the Sabbath for more than a relatively short time, is at best an assumption. As Jews they would want to share the gospel with their people. We know however they already had rejected the messiah by crucifying Christ. The disciples were rejected rather quickly by the Pharisees and history shows that the Christian believers were meeting regularly on the first day as the norm, by the end of the first century.
3. The 3rd part of your question comes primarily from Ellen G Whites writings and not the scriptures. The three angels messages as defined and taught by the SDA counterfeit Christian denomination are heresy.
@@jimliley Jim, YES!
All of your answers are opinions. Answer with the Bible please.
@@gracesmythe3133 , did you listen to the whole video? Everything is based on Scripture. I suggest that you read through Galatians every day for a month, and ask the Lord Jesus to teach you what He knows He wants you to understand.
There are points that you dont understand
It's ludicris to believe that setting aside work to spend time with God, the Creator on His Holy Sabbath day is a death sentince. Imagine a husband telling his wife that to spend time with her on their anniversery is a death sentence.
Read Galatians every day for a month, from start to finish. It's only six chapters. The death sentence was the heart of the law: "If you break one law, you broke it all, and breaking a law demands death." Everyone deserves death. No one has ever kept the law perfectly. Jesus showed that He was LORD of the Sabbath: He was Over it, not under it, and He used the sabbath to reveal that He was God. He did "break" the terms of the law: He touched dead people and lepers without doing ritual cleansing. He did these things because He could not be defiled by them. He brought healing and cleansing to the unclean. He systematically did what the law said a Jew could NOT do-because He Was God. He was showing Israel that He was the Messiah-God Himself. He was the LORD of the law, the LORD of the Sabbath. Touching lepers, commanding the paralytic to carry a load on Sabbath which the law forbade...these were not sin because Jesus had authority over the shadows of the law. Colossians 2:16-17.
The Bible said that the most viscous attacks usually come from those whom you once walked with
The devil has his minions all over to try and discredit the advent 3 angels message
Something important than sabbath is here who ever eat my flesh and drink my blood has life everlasting.
I think I just had an epiphany. Keeping the SDA Sabbath vs the Hebrew Shabat is like leaving the Catholic church but putting Catholic statues, candles, holywater, etc in a closet so you can still visit them as needed.
I don’t do well at keeping Shabat and I recoil at the thought of going to church on a specific day of the week.
So what did Jesus add to the law. You cannot change the truth. Just look at the metal on your ear show why you left the church,that is if you were not sent for a mission
Ur speaking liké a modern day phariseee open Ur mind
@@charnelallan7159 You are the one the one that is speaking like the modern day Pharisee not knowing the scriptures but having a hype as one full of knowledge. The woman in this video is Babylon and a worker of the dragon ( Rev 12:17)
Its clearly Ur ignorant of thé définition of thé word pharisee.
@@angel-lasmart791140:15 LOOK AT THE MONSTER BEHEMOTH, * I CREATED HIM AND I CREATED YOU. HE ESTS GRASS LIKE A COW,
@@tasiaflynn3549 very uncoordinated like the 😈. You need Christ Jesus to be coordinated
You are out of your mind. Jesus broke the laws that the Pharisees made. Jesus never sinned. If He did, He wouldn’t be our savior. Jesus didn’t die to justify sin . You are advocating sin.
Jesus warned His disciples of false prophets. The earthly sanctuary patterned the one in heaven. If you do not believe in it that is your problem. Sister you are playing with sematic. The law defines or points out sin is similar or the same thing. People run to Paul in Col 2:14 to justify their false interpretations of the law. In Matthew 5:17,18 Jesus did not come to destroy the law or the prophets but to fulfill it.
Jeffrey, CONTEXT, please. "Fulfill" does not mean to make the law our rule of faith and practice. It means He filled its purpose full of its intended meaning. Everything it required-He did. As a last will and testament is fulfilled when a person dies and the executor distributes the assets to the intended beneficiaries, so Jesus fulfilled the law's shadows, and when we believe and trust His finished atonement, the benefits of God's forgiveness, eternal life, and blessings are imputed to the believer. The law is now obsolete, as a fulfilled will or trust is obsolete after it has been fulfilled. Paul uses this argument in Galatians. I suggest that your read Galatians every day for a month and ask the Lord to teach you what He knows He wants you to learn!
@@ColleenTinker You and I know that the scriptures cannot contradict themselves. Paul cannot contradict Jesus' spoken words and so forth. Jesus made it clear in Matt5: 17,18 that as long as the heaven and earth remain one jot or one tittle of the law will not be removed till all will be fulfilled or accomplished. Jesus came to exalt not end the moral law-the decalogue which some scholars saw fit to remove the 4th and still called it the decalogue. Context reading indicates that Jesus is referring to 10 C (v21 Jesus quoted the 6th Commandment) The sabbath days referred to in Col2: 16,17 was not the weekly 7th day Sabbath in Ex20:8 which points backward to creation and those in Col 2:16,17 points forward to Jesus' first advent. These came to an end at the cross. Fine I will take your advice and read the book of Galatians. But if Paul is saying the law is obsolete because it has been fulfilled then clearly this is a contradiction and one of us must be wrong in our interpretation. In my brief reading of the book of Galatians it mentioned a lot about Jesus and the law and how we are justified or made right with God. I noted a passage which stated that Jesus redeemed us not from the law but from its curse or penalty of the law which is death. If Jesus saved us from curse of the law how then is the law becomes obsolete? If a husband divorces his wife it does not make the law of divorce obsolete. Likewise, Jesus saves us from the penalty of the law-death-but the law still exists to play its function of pointing out sin in man and their need of a Saviour. In my observation many scholars taught the abolition of God's 10 Commandments simply to get rid of the Sabbath Commandment. To accept 9/10 of it is unscriptural.
@@jefferywilfred1678 All Ten of the Decalogue are fulfilled in Jesus and are no longer for the church (see Hebrews 8:13; they are obsolete because they are fulfilled). We do not get our morality from the law but from the Author, God. Now we have a NEW law, as Hebrews 7:11, 12 say we must because we have a new priesthood. Paul says he was not under the law but under the law of Christ. (1 Cor 9:20-22). When we trust in Jesus' FINISHED work (the completion of the law's requirements including the death penalty), we are now under a NEW law, the Law of Christ. It contains all the same moral requirements as the Decalogue plus many more: do not lust, do not hate, do not slander, do not indulge in idle talk, to not indulge greed which is idolatry. We are under a MUCH higher standard than Israel was under when the Law was their authority. Further, we cannot divorce the Ten from the entire law: do not mix linen and wool; do not boil a kid in its mother's milk, etc. The Law was a unit; break one and thus break them all. Now we are under the Law of Christ. He is our righteousness, gives us His resurrection life, and when we believe, we pass from death to life (John 5:24). He imputes His personal righteousness to us when we believe (Phil. 3:9). Read Galatians, the whole book every day, for a month, and ask the Lord to show you what He wants you to know!
@@ColleenTinker You say that decalogue or 10 C is being made obsolete by Jesus' death at the cross. Questions-1) What does the term fulfil mean in Matt 5:17 mean and fulfilled in v 18? 2) When the Priesthood changed from the order of Aron to that of Melchizedek which law was changed or came to an end? 3) When did Jesus die? 4) Did any of Jesus' disciple taught or quoted the 10 C after the death of Jesus? 5)And why did he quote it after it came to an end at the cross?. 6) Did Paul taught or quoted the 10 C after the death of Jesus if he wrote that they were nailed to the cross? 7) Is 10 C the same as Old Covenant? 8) So what is the New Covenant and to whom was it given? Pls be specific in your response to questions here being posed. Thank you.
@@jefferywilfred1678 The burden of proof is not on me. I have used Scripture to support what I have said. You need to read the New Testament IN CONTEXT. Proof-texting does not support reality; it is a way of using Scripture's words (parts of them) to support a pre-existing idea. That is illegitimate. Please read all of Galatians every day for a month. Get a notebook and literally begin copying the book of Hebrews, a few verses every day, into the notebook. When you finish with Galatians and Hebrews, move on to Colossians and Ephesians, to Philippians and Romans. Read the Gospel of John from beginning to end IN CONTEXT, a few verses or a chapter a day. Ask God to show you what He knows He wants to teach you. Arguing will not accomplish a thing, Only God's word IN CONTEXT reveals reality. Ask Him to show you what is true and real and to give you a heart open to knowing Him.
Could we make void the Law ,was James speaking to you if you break one you break all , is not the Law in Heaven Revelation 11,:19 Revelation 15;5 explain these
There are so many comments like yours that show that you and they did not watch the video--you just reacted to the title. Please watch the video completely before writing. Thanks!
She cannot explain anything because Jesus is her rest which mean you can commit adultery,steal,have graven image. Just see how she has other models of keeping the law, because she doesn't want to keep the Sabbath
@@angel-lasmart7911 She says the Sabbath was fulfilled in Christ.
Nine of the ten commandments are mentioned in the New Testament and are part of the new covenant so no you can't commit adultery, steal, or have a graven image.
@@johngreene8332 when you study your Bible in the way she has taught you then you make comments like what you just said. Matt 5:17-19 said Jesus fulfilled the law not just the Sabbath,sin is the transgression of the law( 1 John 3:4), Sabbath will be kept in heaven and the new earth ( Isa 66:22-23)
What has really kept me in this very track is Rev 12:17,14:12
Making war with the remnant of her seed is exactly what this woman is doing in all her series
@@angel-lasmart7911 As an ex-Adventist, the Sabbath was the hardest doctrine for me to renounce. I thought their other teachings were wrong, but I thought they had a point regarding the Sabbath as there are no verses in the Bible indicating that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday. Then I read thoroughly Hebrews chapters 3 and 4 which states that a believer’s sabbath rest is in Christ. I realized then that the seventh-day Sabbath had been fulfilled in Christ--that He is my Sabbath rest. This occurred years before I heard of Colleen Tinker and the Former Adventist group.
Although I arrived at this conclusion independently through studying Hebrews verse by verse, subsequently I have heard the pastor of my church preach the same thing when he did a verse-by-verse sermon series on Hebrews. Moreover, others have this same conclusion including Vine’s Complete Expository Dictionary. Here is what they say regarding this subject:
Sabbatisomos (a sabbath keeping) “is used in Hbr 4:9 ‘a sabbath rest’ [note that the NASB translates “rest” in HBR 4:9 as ‘sabbath rest’ as do some other translations] “(akin to sabbatizo, “to keep the Sabbath”, used e.g. in EXD 16:30 but not in the N.T.); here the sabbath keeping is the perpetual sabbath ‘rest’ to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Law. Because this sabbath ‘rest’ is the ‘rest’ of God Himself, HBR 4:10, its full fruition is yet future, though believers now enter into it. In whatever way they enter into Divine ‘rest’, that which they enjoy is involved in an indissoluble relation with God.” Vines Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, Thomas Nelson, Nashville, TN, page 529.
This is what is meant when Paul said that the Sabbath was the shadow of what was to come, and that Jesus is the substance.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NKJV): So let no judge in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
There are problems with your understanding of Isaiah 66:22-23. Here are these verses (from the NKJV):
“And it shall come to pass that from NEW MOON to another and from one Sabbath to another all flesh shall come to worship before Me”, says the Lord.
If the Sabbath is going to be kept every week in the new heavens and earth, then so will be the New Moons. Are you keeping the New Moons, or have they already been fulfilled in Christ?
According to Revelation 21:23-25 and 22:5 there will not be a moon and or a sun in the eternal state. Neither will there be night. As this is the case, how can the Sabbath be observed when it starts at sundown?
What these verses are saying is that every day of the month and every day of the week, all flesh will worship the Lord. In other words, there will be continuous worshipping of the Lord.
As far as the two verses you mentioned about keeping the commandments, all believers keep the Sabbath has they have a permanent Sabbath rest in Christ. Paul and the writer of Hebrews have made it clear that seventh day Sabbath was a shadow of the permanent rest in Christ. So, Christians who do not “keep” the seventh day Sabbath are keeping the commandments of God.
Here is what Paul said about the Galatians who were being influenced by the Judaizers and the pagans:
Galatians 4:9-13 (NKJV): But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements to which you desire again to be in bondage. You observe days, and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you lest I have labored for you in vain.
If you love God and want to devote 1 full day to Him, for which there is overwhelming precedent and was given at creation and will be present on the earth made new, who could object to that? I admit it's kind of a romantic idea, especially the sunset to sunset part, but I really don't think He would object....
A relationship with Jesus Christ is #1 priority to the road to salvation. When the mark of the beast is force throughout the world, then the 7th day Sabbath will be the test of allegiance and loyality to God.
Yes!
Verse?
@@ZaakiConcept"worship Him who made the heavens and the earth the sea and springs of water" Rev 14:7
Direct quote from the 4th commandment. Ex 20:11
Just a Minute , What are the hand handwriting of ordinances? are they the same as the ten commandments? Explain this to everyone !
They are Law. Entire law including 10 commandments
I understand them to be the penalties that were required to be applied when “the law” (not just the 10) was broken. Christ paid our debt in full, so we would have eternal life with Him when we believe.
@@jimliley Yes there is NO question about that , we don't look to the law to save us, we look to Christ and what he done .
2nd Corinthians 3:7-8
SDAs with some (many protestants) basically failed to grasp that "the written ordinances that are against us" - Colossians 2:14 - was NEVER initiated in Exodus. Rather it was initiated in Genesis, in the garden of Eden where God finished creation created Adam (& madam) and then COMMANDED ADAM, "You shall not eat nor touch..., lest you die". Die/death/deceasing is the NEGATIVE consequence given by God, it was the clear edit and verdict.... THIS WAS THE SUM, THE TOTALLITY of the general heavenly view of humanity and earth life since day one! The curse of the Law which is the ever-present REPROACH, the consequence of sin in mankind since creation and really not just in Exodus, this very curse uttered by God in Eden was EVENTUALLY!, FINALLY! and EFFECTIVELY dealt with by Jesus Christ. He took the curse upon himself as it were a clothing, a covering garment, a coat of human sin and worn it through his crucifixion where - upon the cursed CROSS on Calvary Jesus nailed "the ordinances that were against us" as stated in, among other scriptural passages, Colossians 2:14. Jesus nailed the edict/verdict against Adam and mankind onto the Cross! Now who dares to "un-nailed" it to again reinforce, implement and enslave mankind all over again? How dare anyone!? May God bless and enlighten more SDAs, in order to be ex-Seventh Day Adventists, not merely forsaking but clearly seeing the Way and the Truth, and the Life; translated "JESUS THE CHRIST". Peace.
Who's the Lord, Sabbath or Jesus?
Jesus Christ the Lord?
Humm Jesus said not to patch an old garment with new cloth like the new testement and old testement.
If you read the context of the parable it’s about fasting often. Mathew 9:14. Israel was required to fast only once a year only on the day of atonement Lev 23. Fasting often was a tradition of men. Jesus rebuked the Pharisee’s for their traditions. It is written “Why do your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread. He answered and said to them Why do you transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition. Mathew 15:2-3 🙏No room for traditions of men in New Testament. Sola Scriptura🙏
This is the day Thatceas Santified and Bless
The upper room discourse totally upholds this. Jesus is driving home the point to abide in Him (and not a day) without ceasing.
Some thoughts on the changing of the law in Daniel: the whole world is trying to change what it means to love your neighbor biblically (for to love your neighbor biblically fulfills the law). We see this in America as our culture gets darker and darker. True biblical love is considered evil and the sensual, wicked, demonic acts are called good and loving (I won't go into detail, but we all know what's going on in our country). I'm not saying this is exactly what's happening in the book of Daniel, but these are things I've been thinking on.
Can someone explain Isaiah 66:22-23
The Sabbath is kept here, and the 7th day Sabbath will be kept even in heaven. Amen!
Sis your teaching will hit you back.
Adventism put the sabbath and the law before Jesus, the Lord and Saviour.
So therefore Jesus died for nothing!
Why Jesus keep the sabbath if the all ?
KirzathWaro, would you please point out how the SDA church put the Sabbath and the Law before Jesus, the Lord, and the Savior?
Jesus said, I did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.
Jesus had to die because man sinned. We choose obedience to His commandments because of this fact. Sin will not persist into the new heaven and new earth. Sin ends here. Those who are really in Jesus have forsaken sin which is defined as transgression of the law and that law are the ten. The royal law is the abbreviated version of the ten, love to God, love to neighbor.
@@dontfeedthepiratesSo you never sin?
Law of Christ is living in the Spirit and law of Moses is living in the flesh. Very simple being born again by the Holy Spirit.
1 John 2:4 try to take this out of context. The Bible is clear. If you don’t keep His commandments , there is no truth in you.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Romans 13:10
O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day. Psalms 119:97
Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. Psalms 119:165
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. Psalms 1:1,2
Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD. Psalms 119:1
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. Psalms 19:7
Hello Colleen... you are teaching falsely. You sound like someone did something to make you bitter while you were in the SDA Church. There are the good, bad, and the ugly in all denominations. So I pray you didn't let someone or more than one person run you out. It seems you want to take vengeance on the whole movement of people who believe in the (4th) Sabbath Commandment, and in the 1844 understanding that God entered the Most Holy Place in Heaven... which started the Judgement before He returns with His "reward".
So I ask you...
1. Do you believe in the 70 week interpretation of Daniel as understood by the SDA Church? If not, what does this mean?
2. If the "cleansing of the Sanctuary was 2,300 days in Daniel's prophecy, what does it mean to you???
I would really appreciate an answer that makes sense. I want to know the Truth.
If God entered thé most holy place in 1844 and not AT his ascension into heaven how did believers in thé 1st Century had direct Access to God?
As a former Adventist I can answer your questions:
1. I no longer believe the 70-week interpretation of Daniel as understood by the SDA Church. This prophecy starts in 444 BC when the command to rebuild the walls and city was made. At the end of the 69th week (483 years) Jesus was crucified. The clock stops until the Antichrist makes a covenant with many for a week (7 years). In the middle of the week, he breaks the covenant. There will be wars and desolation occurring until God destroys the Antichrist. Note that some Christians will not agree with this interpretation, but many do.
2. The cleansing of the sanctuary is what occurred after Antiochus Epiphanes IV desecrated the temple by sacrificing pigs on the altar, placing an idol in the temple, forbidding the Jews access to it, removing all of the vessels and vail, and many other abominations. Most Christians believe this as well as some Jews. Hannukah is the Jewish holiday that celebrates the cleansing of the temple.
A-men!
I think you are really deceiving people here. Are you trying to say that with Jesus death on the cross there is no more sin in the world? What does Paul mean in Roman 4:15? If there was no sin in this world then we would be living very peaceful, trouble free life here on earth. In my opinion you really don’t understand these scriptures and thus your post is misleading many who are young in faith.
Why did he remind the children of Israel to remember the sabbath day in exodus 20;8?
We honor Jesus because he said if you love me then keep my commandments- and that’s what Adventist endeavor to do.
Did you watch the whole video? I explain the relationship of the old and the new covenants. Never do I hint that there is no more sin in the world! I encourage you to watch (or to re-watch) the entire video.
Please explain Roman 6:14 on RUclips
The Law is Grace. Continue reading on the whole chapter until the end of Chapter 9. You cannot believe in Jesus without the Law. He is the Law.
@@ManoaRagogoMaiwaqa The law typically means either the Torah or the Old Testament depending on the usage. So are you saying that we are under the complete law?
@@ManoaRagogoMaiwaqa Amen. Its His character.
You said that the 7th day does not have evening & morning. In that case, Pls, how many days are there in a week at your place?
Your teaching is against even the calendar system and history in general.
The hatred of Satan is always against the law of God. May God help us!!!
What was said was on the seventh day of creation there was no evening and morning stated for that day. God ceased His creating because it was complete. This was an unending Sabbath (ceasing ) since no more creating was needed. This is a type of Sabbath rest that those who are born again enter into because of the finished work that Christ accomplished at the cross and rising from the dead. We can now rest in this antitypical Sabbath 24/7.
U a misleading people
@@jimliley I would add that the seventh day Sabbath given to the Jews was to remind them of God's permanent rest from creation and of the future eternal rest in the Messiah. It is prophetic in a sense.
I was an Ardent Seventh day Adventist. But now I understand that Adventists are legalist. For them Sabbath is everything. I pray for my Adventist Brethren who have been brainwashed with a lie to come out and start New Covenant Sabbath of Jesus.
So true everything revolves around the Sabbath not jesus Acts 17 :28 In him(Jesus) we live and move and have our being not a day...
The Sabbath as God stated in the Old Testament, was suppose to be a celebration and a day of rest. However, it's like work within SDA.
If you 'were' an ardent SDA, celebrating the Sabbath with joy instead of 'duty', you would still be in the Church. It is a delight, Holy, and welcomed by us each week. God said it would be a "sign" between Him and His people, and attached a blessing to anyone that "keeps His Commandment".
You should also know it is His "Seal". Will you be marked with the Mark of The Beast, or will you be "Sealed with the Seal of God".
You don't keep God's Sabbath to check off the boxes. That won't save you...only your relationship and subsequent obedience to Christ and His Commandments. 🎉
@@kcjoseph2838That's what you and others let it become. It is a joy and relief to us!
@@kcjoseph2838 it’s a joy and a delight if it’s kept correctly.
I was in the Adventist Church and the holy spirit lead me to study the sanctuary service only to realize that their was no movement of Christ at 1844 to the most holy place its unbiblical Heaven is the most holy and Christ after returning to heaven entered into the most holy and took the position at the right hand of God from where he will judge the saints untill he makes the enemy thy footstool.
This woman is so confused, Jesus worshiped on the Sabbath and we should also. Let's follow Jesus, Jesus will not mislead us. Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths , to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them. Mark 2:27 The Sabbath was made for man......
Jésus kept all thé other feasts . Do u?
@@charnelallan7159 The Ceremonial laws were abolished at the cross. Not the Ten Commandment law. Two different laws. Revelation 14:12.
This presentation is A lot of crap and blatant lies, steeped and sauteed in conjectures. The eternality of the law is manifested in Rev. 11:19 and God though his law in 1 John 3:4 biblically defines sin not Ellen White, Mark Findlay nor The Great Controversy
Well done , thank you for the video.
Jesus Christ went to church on Saturday the 7th Day more than 150 countries in the world they all have 7 days in a week in a week every country in the world in honor of the creator creator
Galatians 4 4
But when thé Time had fully Come God sent his son born of a woman under thé Law To redeem those under thé Law.
While Ur AT it look UP thé définition of redeem ❤
@@charnelallan7159 Revelation 14:12.
Jesus on His Holy Day. Apostasy is called former
I have seen Adventist criticizing the Holy Spirit so that means all are defaulted to hell according to Mt 12:32. Those that said something bad to Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, it is an everlasting sin.
Your leaving the SDA church is one thing.
But why do you keep coming back? What about the judgement described in James 2 ?
May Christ have mercy on you lady!
all are God’s , days and Jesus Christ what is the fuss?
When you surrounder your life to Jesus Christ as your lord and saviour .what do you do next ?
Repent EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST he died for your sins
So are you saying today I dont have to keep the 4th commandment, to remember the 7th day Sabbath and to keep it holy? That is what the Bible says for the 4th commandment. If you are saying that, that means I dont have to obey any of the 10 commandments? So then I can murder, steal, covet, have other gods, bow down to statues, and dishonor too? Then why did Jesus and the apostles keep the 7th day sabbath? And why does Jesus in the book of Revelations say, If you love me...keep my commandments?
Watch the whole video--all your questions are answered!
@beckyhorse4560 That is a tired assertion. Jesus said love God and love your neighbor, these two commandments the whole law is hung on. How can you love your neighbor if you kill them??? Don’t be so naive.
By the way if you are Sda, Ellen White her self tells you SDAs that you are no longer under the Ten Commandments. These are Ellen’s own words:
I am asked concerning the law in Galatians. What law is the schoolmaster to bring us to Christ? I answer: Both the ceremonial and the moral code of ten commandments. 1SM 233.1
Now let’s read Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
So Galatians 3 says we are no longer under the schoolmaster and well Ellen said the school master was the Ten Commandments.
@@Jesus-alonethis is where you allow people like this woman to deceive you away from the kingdom. God's church have to identifying mark Rev12:17,Rev 14:12
@@angel-lasmart7911 Well, I gave a quote from Ellen White saying we are no longer under the Ten Commandments, would you like to address that or are you just going to deflect it and continue to not think for yourself? The truth of the matter is Ellen contradicts the Bible and herself so many times, there is no way she was a prophet from God, but instead of digging into it y’all just get spoon fed the same talking points and doctrines without questioning it.
So read my above comment in its entirety and address the issue. No it is not out of context, yes I understand clearly what she wrote. Don’t try to use those excuses. Think for yourself, read it for yourself and prove what I put forth wrong.
My SDA church has never once claimed we are "saved" by keeping Gods commandments. We live by them because we love Jesus and it's His will, clearly stated throughout the Scriptures. I have never heard the SDA church teach that we are "saved" by keeping the 10 commandments. We are saved by the faith of Jesus, alone. We live by the commandments of God because it's the laws of Gods kingdom on earth AND in heaven. Only 10 laws yet you are unwilling to obey them? Yet I'm sure you keep the thousands and thousands of man's laws on earth.
As far as your beef with Ellen White being a prophet, we're any of the prophets perfect people? Name one. Jesus was the only perfect human. I will leave Jesus to pick His prophets and judge them. That's not my job.
Jesus object of my Sunday worship
God bless all those who accept JESUS CHRIST as the true substance (colossians 2;16).we know that (HE IS THE PROVIDER OF THE SABBATH (MATTHEW 11;28).WHEN HE DWELLS IN ANY ONE 'S HEART (THAT HEART ENJOYS THE REA TRUE SABBATH).
Do you really believe that God had to rest? If you honor the sabbath you are under the law and you will be judge by the law!
What did Jesus meant when he said “they will never enter my rest”! You look it up!
l watched Walter V's ''Total Onslaught'' series a few years ago, and MAN ....was it hard to get that stuff out of my head. l almost became an Adventist, but l could never keep the whole law like that. l think thats the point of Jesus. Thanks to Myles Christian's 'Answering Adventism' channel, he pointed out the ''Gospel Desert' of this doctrine. l was SO GLAD to know that we dont live on Sinai anymore. Thank you Colleen.
What happened to Myles Munroe? I hope that he will repent and seek to please God wholly and truly. 9:53
Psalm 19:7-11 The Law of the LORD is perfect CONVERTING the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple...
This woman is such a coward. She has been in the Adventist church for decades. She respected her SS teacher so much that she couldn't ask a question about something she was not sure about.
Decades later, she is coming out with so much misunderstanding
When Proverbs says" Kiss the son less he become angry.. that was not Jesus the Son.
This woman has missed so much being in Adventism. I agree with her. She may as well leave.. She has not learnt anything...
She had not throughly revealed the confusion in the 4th Commandment. That is the only commandment that speaks of the authority of the Creator. His sign, His seal, and His Sovereignty.
She is reading from someone else's notes. She herself has no true understanding of what she believes. Besides her red lipstick and her jewelry tells me that she is a Catholic spy.
God bless you sis Colleen. Rightly dividing the Word of Truth. We are no longer under the supervision of the law (Gal 3:25), Anyone trying to be justified by the law has been alienated from Christ (who is our Sabbath); and has fallen away from grace (Gal 5:4).
PRAY for her.
you have convinced me. Im pulling out of sabath day worship...what day will I worship now.. Please tell..
You are free to worship on any day including the Sabbath. But Sabbath observance for the Christian is not mandatory nor is it required for salvation.
@@johngreene8332 The law, is at a WHOLE. You cannot have one with out the other, James 2:8-12. So, if God refers to His end time people as commandment keeping people, Revelation 14:12.. what day would you keep? He tells us in John14:15... "If you love me keep my commandments." So, what day? His true, still kept it even AFTER He died, Luke 23:56. So what day?
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Sabbath : Jesus or Day???
Here is my answer:
It is quality time spent with Jesus Christ by appointment. It is an appointed time in our busy schedule for a holy convocation.
Is there a problem with this?? Hope to hear from you
What you stated is not a problem. The problem is when a false counterfeit Christian organization says that the appointment is correct only at the time they believe it is. When a person is born again they have the freedom to worship whenever and how often they are prompted by the Holy Spirit.
@@jimliley I appreciate your faithfulness to the cross of Christ. I believe , and I assume you believe too, that keeping the sabbath is inspired by the Holy Ghost.- an appointed time for a holy convocation with our Loving God. Am I right??
@@Creationist432 I do not believe that the church was ever subject to or commanded to observe a 24 hour period of time as defined and given in the Old Covenant to the nation of Israel alone. The church (born again believers ) are part of the New Covenant which is not the Old Covenant rewritten. Our Sabbath rest is found 100% in Christ and what He accomplished for us so we wouldn’t have to. We now Sabbath (rest) in Christ.
@@jimliley I believe you are correct. It is not what we believe based on our own terms and rules. We must be guided by the Holy Ghost to ascertain that the (appointed times) are from the father above for holy purposes. Let us say, I chose any time of day to worship the Father. Is there anything wrong with that??! Absolutely not
But if our Father asks me to remember to come home at a certain time because he wants me to fellowship with Him, then I would not be appreciative of his purpose if I fail to hear his voice.
@@jimliley It looks like you have taken the bait!!
If I follow your logic, I will reach the same conclusion. That I was not under the foothills of mount Sinai to receive the commands
But, if you humble yourself, you would appreciate the creators calendar. No calendar time, given to Israel was arbitrary!! All appointed times are made for your good , given by the wisdom of our creator God.
Things God made for man from the creation of the World, like the sabbath and marriage, are good gifts from the father of light.
If you conclude that sabbath is not commanded for Christian, then you should support same-sex marriage.
Amen indeed 🙏, For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death 🙏
And which is law of sin?
What is the Law spirit is ?
Jesus said if you love me keep my commenment John 15: 10
This is not referring to the 10 commandments of the Old Covenant.
@@jimliley Exactly--this is referring to the commandments that Jesus gave like going out into the world and make disciples of the nations.
John 14:15..."If you love me keep my commandments."
It is too sad that you are building a ministry totally on being anti Adventists to the point that you take their ss lesson study books not to highlight areas of agreement, but areas of disagreement. Why not build your ministry on what you believe rather than on what you don't believe?
The SDA denomination is a false counterfeit Christian organization.
Glory to God
Going with Jesus Final Answer
One thing I dont understand, if SDA are so wrong, if Ellen White writtings are so wrong, and if seventh day sabath doesnt matter anymore, if actually most of you guys say that none of these day matter anymore, neither one, no saturday, no monday, no friday, that we should rest in Jesus Christ on every day, WHHHHY, WHHY, just WHHY there is so much peer pressure and efforts from the other side of the table, from the sunday part, why there is so much talk and rush from the congress, from the ,,PROJECT 2025" agenda, from the the ,,2030 Agenda", from the climate change agenda, to instituite a national day of rest, and thay day is actually sunday, WHY NOT MONDAY, WHY NOT WENSDAY, WHY, WHY SHOULD IT BE SUNDAY....if Ellen White writtings are wrong, if SDA is wrong why then everything they support it is actually happening, and everywere you look it shows the exactly direction that they support? Why? I am just asking? Can anyone give me an answer?
Those in the SDA counterfeit Christian denomination can’t seem to ignore a conspiracy whenever one comes along. Reminds me of the children’s story “Henny Penny” running around screaming the sky is falling, the sky is falling. Just be patient, another conspiracy will come around when this one fades away.
@@jimliley hmm ok, so you are saying that every step that the elites take to make sunday a international common day of rest is just conspiracy, ok? If it is like this and everything is just a conspiracy ok good to you, the world will continue and everything will be like nothing is going to happend, everybody will be free to rest in which day they want, you in sunday, SDAs in saturday, muslims friday, the atheist in none, and so one...but if it will happend what you will say? If actually everything is going to happend like SDAs and Ellen White writings says, and the battle of worship will be given over a rest day, and the mark of the beast will be worship on sunday, and they will give a LAW, that everybody should pray and worship on just one day, and if SDAs wouldn t want to, what you will say then? Well we will wait and see, time will tell😉
@@robertfloreaKineticHR What I am saying is the day one worships the one true God of the bible isn’t an issue and has no connection whatsoever with the ‘mark of the beast.’ The ‘mark of the beast’ will most likely be a symbol or some kind of identification issued by the antichrist world government that acknowledges the person has sworn allegiance to the antichrist which then allows them to buy and sell. This happens midway through the 7yr tribulation time frame. People are persecuted on who they worship, not about the day of worship. The SDA denomination is not and will never be the remnant. To think that God waited 1800 years to raise up this Christian counterfeit church is just a delusion of Satan.
I go to a large Christian church. There is no talk of Sunday laws or persecuting Sabbath observers amongst any of our members.
@@johngreene8332 maybe, not right now...but watch what pope is claiming from the usa goverment, read agenda 2025, and what trump will do if he will be elected, see what WorldEconomicForum and ONU has in the agenda 2030...this thing will not come suddenly, will come ligthly with good intention like a rest day for time for family, for earth/climate change and things like that exactly what revelation says, a beast with horns like lamb but soon enough will speak like a dragon, thats bcz behind the good intention are some bad one, very bad ones, and once they will mandate them as a law, they will not back down, and then you will see, you maybe say it is impossible to be a law to restrain a man to keep just one day as a day of rest, like a sabath day rest, but the same think we said when it was the covid pandemy, we everybody, we said it is impossible to make a law to put us and stay just in our homes and we did not belive that they actually restrain us in our homes in those 2-3 months of lookdown, but they did it, and we could do nothing...time will tell, but till then every man is free to observe whatever he choses, to preach his side of view of the Biblie and time will tell who says the truth and who dont...till then Peace and God be with us all...
We will all be judged by the law at the end of everything.
And if you break one commandment you're guilty of breaking the other nine
James 2 10:26.
That's what I know and that's why I'm keeping the Sabbath.
Stop avoiding the obvious and mislead people.
Read from the beginning of that chapter in james... we are all guilty of breaking the law. That's the point of the cross and the finished work christ HAS completed.. he says in revelation he holds the keys to death and hades. That statement is huge and points to the complete gracious work of jesus christ alone. Which I am forever greatful cause my works are of filthy rags and I'm in need of the one and only savior. God bless everyone and may we come together in christ and bring more people to the kingdom.
Nope, we are not saved or lost based on the law. The law was given to define what sin is so we would recognize our need of a savior and to remove all our excuses in thinking we could ever be good enough to be in the presence of God by our own behaviors.
God's law is as a mirror, if we go wrong we look at it and make effort to get ourselves back together with the Holy spirit's help. We can keep breaking his law especially the sabbath and say we are not saved by the law no. Our actions will be judged against the law because we know the law and whether we decide to follow and refuse to follow is up Jesus to judge us. Let's not take God's Grace for granted, we have to be servants of the master and abide by the law.
The Adventist Gospel is the "Bad News"
Telling the church to obey God is bad news? Telling them they FORGOT the Sabbath of The Lord when God says REMEMBER is bad news?
The serpent in the garden told Eve to disobey the law of God saying "you shall not surely die". .he's repeating the same through you all to this day. So sad .
Repent and obey God. God requires obedience. Do you steal?, lie? If you say no then you're fulfilling the bad news of the Adventists gospel. Such a ridiculous line of reasoning. Obey all ten, not just 9. And don't change any, that's all we preach.
@@Perseverance4477 it also had 4 other Sabbaths in Leviticus 23 that you dont keep but let's not talk about it right?
@@Perseverance4477 you vastly misunderstand the biblical covenants. No one forgot a Sabbath. The Old covenant vanished (Hebrews 8). It was anulled because it perfected nothing (Hebrews 7). The new covenant replaced the old and instead of being written on tablets of stone it is placed in our minds and written in our hearts (Jeremiah 33 and Hebrews 8 again.) A day of Sabbath rest does remain and instead of the seventh day, it is TODAY (every day) (Hebrews 3 and 4.) why? Because as Hebrews 4 says we enter into God's rest through our belief and thus rest from our works as God did from his. Jesus is our rest. He is our Sabbath. If you honor a day over Christ you are literally committing spiritual adultery against Christ, not to mention blatant idolatry.
Miss your theology is bad, why did you leave the church and gone to work for Satan, come all dressed up like the woman in revelation 17.
@@Perseverance4477 please read this.... and read it with an open mind.
What an amazing plan God had to redeem us unto himself!
In Hebrews 8, the author quotes from Jeremiah 33 where God said he would establish a new covenant that was NOT like the old covenant, and that he would place His law in our minds and write it on our hearts. Is that a reference to the Law of Moses (ten commandments)? No, it is the Law of Christ as described by Paul in Galatians 6 and 1 Corinthians 9. In fact the author of Hebrews closes chapter 8 with, "In speaking of a new covenant (Law of Christ), he (God) makes the first covenant (Law of Moses / 10 commandments) obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." Realize that the old covenant literally WAS the ten commandments. See Exodus 34:27-28 for reference.
Many would say well if we're not under the 10 commandments then we're free to sin! No, far from it for two reasons. First, Paul in Romans 6:9-13 lays out quite clearly that new covenant believers are not to sin willfully. (This is also confirmed by the apostle John in his first letter--1 John 3:9--and by the author Hebrews in Chapter 10). But second--and even more importantly--Christ himself RAISED the moral standard of the law, so as we pass from the Law of Moses to the Law of Christ, our new commandment is one that is greater: LOVE.
In the sermon on the mount in Matthew 5, Jesus says he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. He goes further to say that it will not pass away UNTIL ALL THINGS WERE ACCOMPLISHED. He then says that we need to SURPASS the righteousness of the pharisees to see the kingdom of heaven. Now, the apostle John in the 19th chapter of his gospel specifically says that Jesus, saw that ALL THINGS WERE ACCOMPLISHED just before he died. But even beyond that let's keep reading further in Matthew to see where Jesus goes next in the sermon on the mount...
Jesus has just said that we need to surpass the righteousness of the Pharisees to see the kingdom of heaven. He then goes on not once, not twice, not three or four, but SIX times to quote the old covenant law / 10 commandments (You have heard that it was said.) And each time he RAISES the standard of righteousness (But I say to you).
An example: “YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID to those of old, ‘You shall not murder (6th Commandment); and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ BUT I SAY TO YOU that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment." Matthew 5:21-22 ESV
Another example: “YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID, ‘You shall not commit adultery (7th commandment).’ BUT I SAY TO YOU that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
Matthew 5:27-28 ESV
Last example, but feel free to read the others in Matthew 5: “YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ BUT I SAY TO YOU, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
Matthew 5:43-44 ESV
Time and time again Christ RAISED the standard ABOVE the old covenant commandments. In the 12th chapter of Mark's gospel a scribe asks Jesus, "What is the greatest commandment?" Did Jesus say it was to not covet? To honor your father and mother? To keep the Sabbath? Did he even list a single one of the ten commandments? No. He said, "The greatest commandment is to LOVE the LORD your GOD with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: You shall LOVE your neighbor as yourself. There is NO other COMMANDMENT greater than these.” The scribe then said that Jesus had spoken wisely and that these two were FAR GREATER than all the burnt sacrifices and offerings (the old covenant law). Did Christ reprimand him and point him back to the law? No. He said the scribe was close to the kingdom of heaven!
Paul says the Law of Christ is to LOVE one another and to carry each other's burdens. Jesus Christ himself stated that loving the Lord with all of our being and loving one another are the greatest commandments. And you know what? If we truly have that amount of love for God we will naturally have no other Gods or idols before him (Commandments 1&2). If we love the Lord our God with all of our being, we will honor his name (Commandment 3). We will honor the Sabbath which is no longer a day of the week as the author of Hebrews tells us in chapter 4. It says through our belief in Christ that we enter into God's rest and rest from our works as God did from his. Hebrews 4 says a day of Sabbath rest remains, and that it isn't a particular day of the week, it is TODAY (every day). Why? Because our Sabbath rest is in Christ, and if our greatest creed is love for God and love for our fellow man then of course we love and honor his son who is BOTH God and man.
If the Law of Christ is love for one another, we will always honor our father and mother (Commandment 5). If the Law of Christ is love, we will not murder (Commandment 6). If the Law of Christ is love, we will not commit adultery (Commandment 7). If the Law of Christ is love, we will be honest toward one another and not steal or lie (Commandments 8 and 10). If the Law of Christ is love, we will love God for what he has blessed us with, and we will love our brother and be happy if he is blessed of God. Accordingly we will not cover what is not ours (Commandment 9).
Paul wrtes in Romans 13:8-10, "Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,' and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
Under the Law of Christ, we honor the principles of the old covenant while fully recognizing that we are above it, because Christ is the mediator of a better covenant. In 70 AD when the temple was destroyed by the Romans, all existing manifestations of the old covenant vanished away, just like the author of Hebrews says in chapter 8. Christ does not point us back to the law, but the law pointed us forward to Christ. He is the center of it all and it's unquestionable fulfillment. The old covenant has vanished, which as Exodus 34:27-28 tells us IS the ten commandments. (The law of Moses, the old covenant, and the ten commandments are all one and the same.) Now we are under the law of Christ!
Think of the transfiguration. Jesus, with his closest inner circle, is on the mountain and here appears Elijah and Moses. Peter--being awestruck--offers to build three shelters, one for Christ, one for Moses, and one for Elijah, ignorantly equating them with one another. Suddenly, God's presence in the form of a cloud covers the mountain and the voice of God thunders out "THIS is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased. Listen to HIM." The disciples being struck with fear fall to the ground, covering their heads from the awesomeness of God's power. When Christ tells them not to be afraid, they raise their heads and you know what? Only Jesus was left standing there. Moses (symbol of the law) and Elijah (symbol of the prophets) had vanished. Only Jesus Christ our blessed savior remained!
How free and liberating it is to know the new covenant has assured us of salvation and spiritual rest in Christ, not due to our own merit but due to his. Not due to our own current works, but due to his completed work on the cross. He is our rest. He is our hope. He is the only way we have to the father. Believe him. Trust him. See the law of Christ as our ultimate authority as Christians. Jesus told his disciples on the way down from the mountain to keep what they'd seen a secret until he'd died and been resurrected. Why? Because his death and resurrection fully established our blessed new covenant... a covenant that is not written on tablets of stone, but is written with the Holy Spirit of God onto our very hearts.
Satan is then correct that the law of God is faulty
Are you sure
Where does the Bible say that Satan says the law is faulty? That is EGW. The Bible tells us we are born dead in sin and must be made alive. We must be born again. (Ephesians 2:1-4; John 3:3-6).. Further, the Lord Jesus is our judge, not the law. (John 5).
And who's law do you think he's going to judge us by?
By Ellen’s own teachings Satan was correct about the Law. In her teachings she says:
After the fall of man, Satan declared that human beings were proved to be incapable of keeping the law of God, and he sought to carry the universe with him in this belief. Satan's words appeared to be true, and Christ came to unmask the deceiver.. 1SM 252.1
Now think about this, in the SDA theology Satan was correct and was telling the truth, because Ellen says we can keep the Law WITH the help of Jesus.
In her teachings, Satan didn’t say humans couldn’t keep the law with the help of Jesus, he said humans couldn’t keep the laws. So if the only way we can keep the law is with the help of Jesus, that means Satan was correct is saying we were unable to keep the law.
So in the SDA theology, Satan was telling the truth 😂
SDAs if you disagree, ask yourself, can I keep the law by myself, no help from Jesus? If the answer is no then you just proved my point.
Turn from this heresy, read the word of God without EGW writings and worldview.
I don't understand why people think keeping the 10 commandments is so hard. I've been keeping the 10 commandments since I was born again 35 yrs ago. If I slip and break a commandment, I go to Jesus, repent of my error, turn from my sin, and keep living according to God's will. This is what the Bible teaches us to do. How is it that those who claim to follow Jesus can live by 9 of His commandments but not all 10 of them? I started living by all 10 commandments when I read the Bible the first time, many years before I ever walked into any church.
Does Gods kingdom have no laws? How can you have a kingdom with no laws? It's clear according to the bible that there are laws or there would be no order to it. Just caos. Sounds like something Satan would enjoy being king of. That's not the way my Jesus runs His kingdom. Lawless! No way!
Trust Jesus when He said, harlots, tax collectors and all hordes of sinners get to heaven before the legalists (Pharisees, Sadducees, etc.). Why was that? And why did Jesus specifically appear to "work" on the sabbath while the legalists gnashed the teeth at him, waiting to take him to the cross, even earlier? Jesus is the fulfillment of the law...he is the finished work of the law. So from his death on, the believer is to look at Jesus as the author and finisher of our faith...this is the new testament. That does not make the law irrelevant, but by abiding in the Lord and the Lord abiding in you, you will have more than fulfilled the law because your soul is now enmeshed with the Lord and sin no longer rules in our members. We have the mind of Christ and nature of the life giving spirit. Legalism really misses the point of salvation BIG TIME. But the sad part, is folks who have just sworn to themselves that would not take Jesus' death as enough. When you are bent on keeping the law, you are just a modern day pharisee...essentially, you don't need Jesus because you imagine within yourself that you can keep the whole law...of which not even the Jews could do so! What of you? Remember what Paul stood up and confronted Peter, "why do you, living after the freedom of gentiles (that they now have through Christ), now burden the gentiles to live after the Jews (i.e., the law in which you have been rescued from?). HARD HEARTS still exist, unfortunately. Doctrine and religionism is the modern-day liven of the pharisees.
Top marks
Good too hear your views. Keep it for you own.
Right? I'll stick to following the Bible.
Miss youtuber there is a difference between the Law of Sin and Death and the Law of the Spirit. The Law of the spirit came from God and the scriptures said it is Holy and the commandments are Holy. And I ain't not 7th day Adventist to know this. You need to unlearn the lies.
Read the book of Galatians carefully every day for a month. I pray that your eyes will be opened!
At least we were never forced to be Adventists. History disagrees with you Madam. Nice try
This teaching is straight forward and trying to put the fallacy right! But i know, when the error is exposed people try to defend a dying doctrine..more of this is good for Christ Centred message.
My the Lord have mercy on you. You denied the sanctuary doctrine which the books Hebrews teaches, but at you refer us to the same book. To learn what? You have a lot to do if you can ever convince any Bible-reading christian.
I pray, the Lord open your eyes to see the truth.
24 Christ went into the Most Holy Place. But it was not the man-made one, which is only a copy of the real one. He went into heaven, and he is there now before God to help us.
Hebrews was written before 1844