Significant new evidence of Plasmoid/Ball lightening like phenomena occurring in the TSG from MFMP being covered in tomorrows video. Re-upload of the build guide with fixed audio also on it's way!
I’ve watched 100% of your videos on this subject and follow the subject with intense passion. I’m an independent researcher like you. As this testing unfolds I encourage you to pay close attention to fuel efficiency gains under 100% full engine load (e.g. if you modify a generator, have it power the biggest electric heater it can support and measure the runtime of the heater with and without the device, powered by a 100cc syringe of fuel). One key feature of this design is that it ends up injecting some moisture into the combustion chamber. At idle merely injecting water will dramatically lower emissions and increase efficiency. This effect disappears under load. Since this secondary effect is well known and can confound interpretations of the results I encourage running all tests at full load to disambiguate this well-known water injector effect from the much more interesting effects of the geometry and plasmoids.
@@user-lu1pn6to9e I hope this comment gets seen. I’m so excited by the potential of what this could be I badly want to see it tested by someone who will have at least my level of rigor. To date the claims and measurements are ambiguous and that sucks because it would be very easy to do the testing in a way that eliminates 90% of the uncertainty. If this device can add even 10% to the runtime of a generator at full load that’s worth billions in the short-term. I wish I had more space so I could do the testing myself. In lieu of that, I hope someone who does reproduce this tests will rule out the known confounders.
Great observation @BobWidlefish I'm wondering if we can develop a simple timing circuit that switches Water VS. fuel at a rate that compensates and could actually forcefully predict the outcome of the rate of combustion based on the switching ratio of water initial at v=50m/s VS v=150m/s at full valve opening
Robert Murray Smith made a video saying that he was skeptical of the project a few days ago. He was quite polite, but dismissive. It's worth a watch basically he said: "The generator may be more efficient because of the moist air entering the intake, but as far as plasmoids and all go it seems fishy and I don't trust it." Only slightly annoying thing he said was that paul pantone and Malcom Bendall have both had trouble with the law. Which is true when the law is corrupt. He reads his comment and is a genuine fellow though.
…”You won’t see anything if you don’t look”… pretty sure I paraphrased that quote to death. Will find it highly amusing if when viewed under an SEM samples of that TSG that’s been tested on/off for 8 years shows structure like diamond and transmuted elements such as titanium appearing… you know matter that doesn’t usually make up Perkins Engines 😂
@@craigs.handle those from the “mainstream science community” are protecting their position. The best thing to come out of all this will be someone like BG saying to the community “I don’t care what your opinion on xyz is..There is titanium in this sample, how do you like them apples” 🤣🤣🤣
You're trying to reinvent the GEET. Typically a small, single cylinder engine, will have an Exhaust Emission of: Normal Carburettor CO2 = 12 - 14 % CO = 3- 5 % HC = 200 - 300 ppm O2 = 0 - 3 % Vaporising Carburettor CO2 = +14% CO = 0.0x % HC = 0 - 50 ppm O2 = 0 - 6% if its very lean GEET System CO2 = 0 - 1% CO = 0 - 0.0x% HC = 0 - 10 ppm O2 = 18 - 20%
To those who are doing an experiment to omit the spheres, three considerations: - If it doesn't work as desired, perhaps add a third tube as the sealed core, similar to the core spheres. - Does a much longer tubed section help? - Has anyone ever tested inlet and exhaust traveling in the same direction? Hugely different particle interaction, I'd venture a guess. Individual carbonoxides and nitrogen oxides and incoming ionized air flow would be like people walking together with only glass in between. It could be tuned to have identical flow speed Should we find out other configurations that offer complete removal of the carbons that plantlife cannot live without but drives billionaires and their minions berserk, then we can find ways to make it more compact. I suspect reactor inner surface divided by flow rate will be a key parameter. A 3D printed reactor could have a tremendous surface area for little volume. The outside of the outer tube being exposed to ambient air MAY be a factor, and this could of course be relatively eaqsily be tested by adding yet another tube on the outside and pulling it to a vacume, or filling it with various gasses such as argon, nitrogenoxide, etc, at various pressures. A vacuum there might actually help prevent the undesired tube/sphere implosion effects seen?
Surely GEET's problems were not due to the lack of spheres? Key difference: GEET bubbled the fuel, THOR ionizes and bubbles the inlet air. I don't remember what exhaust gasses were measured at the time? All that sonic tuning of the spheres and these unwanted behaviours might be giving us hints as to how the ancient Peruvian style walls were buiilt. Do minerals soften?
Yeah, you're right. That is a far a greater issue. I should have said an issue of optimization as opposed to using no spheres, it just tailed into the GEET discussion.
Maybe they soften like hutchison samples. GEET made similar exhaust from what I remember. I believe but cannot confirm that the geet through off more radiation, not sure about that.
I see no difference between Geet, in fact i have seen better emission results published with it approaching 20% oxygen output, I was not aware of any safety concerns either, perhaps you care to elaborate on that? they also shares the same magnetic anomalies, in my opinion its exactly the same thing, it seems the working principle is the counter rotating vortex with opposed inlet and exhaust direction. Can this be improved by instead of using spheres you can use a hyperbolic shaped funnel for inlet or exhaust, that would accelerate the vortex as would a pinch point in the center, Geet always used a shaped rod, with a narrow restriction which was the point of the highest magnetic anomaly.
Seriously though.. @felixaudet5860 your suggestion sparked an idea - What if we could take a glass version of a bicycle reflector to achieve total internal reflection? I say glass in place of plastic due to the extremely high melting point, we may be able to even "gimble" the heat, similar to a variable turbo where we can dissipate the heat in a manner to not let it build up and become an issue.
So the spheres are 304, and the tubing, the line feed on the welder is tungsten. Is there anything in choice of the material used to weld the spheres and tube to the spheres other than tungsten? I recall it being one of the preferred materials? Just want to confirm.
“The line feed on the welder is tungsten” ? Not sure what you meant by that. This task, it looks to me would require a TIG welder. The filler would be fed by hand. The electrode tip would be tungsten but there are a few ss304 - 18/8 filler choices that would keep the weld ss304
@raycar1165 I'm not a welder. My friend has a laser welder. I asked him what would be fused into my spheres. He said tungsten so I was trying to make sure it's not something that would mess me up later.
censorship in the land of the free?! Wake up people, there’s no one at the wheel! 3rd comment removed for suggesting a real website on the internet, remember the real internet?!… @chrisprysok7634 Material Welding is a good place to start. No space. I can’t tell you exactly where, that could reduce yt’s eyeball hours, you’ll have to find it on your own.
G’day mate it’s a no brainer to use stainless for everything but keep up the good work I’m interested in building one at some point and your channel is helping greatly. Just a pointer when you’re showing pictures and diagrams put them up as full screen we don’t always need to see your ugly mug on one side.
Significant new evidence of Plasmoid/Ball lightening like phenomena occurring in the TSG from MFMP being covered in tomorrows video. Re-upload of the build guide with fixed audio also on it's way!
in all honesty, this is paul pantones final geet product. it is good to see that someone is representing this under a different light. 👍😁👍
I’ve watched 100% of your videos on this subject and follow the subject with intense passion. I’m an independent researcher like you. As this testing unfolds I encourage you to pay close attention to fuel efficiency gains under 100% full engine load (e.g. if you modify a generator, have it power the biggest electric heater it can support and measure the runtime of the heater with and without the device, powered by a 100cc syringe of fuel).
One key feature of this design is that it ends up injecting some moisture into the combustion chamber. At idle merely injecting water will dramatically lower emissions and increase efficiency. This effect disappears under load. Since this secondary effect is well known and can confound interpretations of the results I encourage running all tests at full load to disambiguate this well-known water injector effect from the much more interesting effects of the geometry and plasmoids.
Yes sir you are absolutely correct
@@user-lu1pn6to9e I hope this comment gets seen. I’m so excited by the potential of what this could be I badly want to see it tested by someone who will have at least my level of rigor. To date the claims and measurements are ambiguous and that sucks because it would be very easy to do the testing in a way that eliminates 90% of the uncertainty. If this device can add even 10% to the runtime of a generator at full load that’s worth billions in the short-term. I wish I had more space so I could do the testing myself. In lieu of that, I hope someone who does reproduce this tests will rule out the known confounders.
Great observation @BobWidlefish
I'm wondering if we can develop a simple timing circuit that switches Water VS. fuel at a rate that compensates and could actually forcefully predict the outcome of the rate of combustion based on the switching ratio of water initial at v=50m/s VS v=150m/s at full valve opening
Much more sophisticated then the Geet but Paul pioneered the understanding of the it and nestled the pipes and flows
Dude... you're killing it on the posts. Sincere cheers
This might serve to be a nice rebuttal to RMS.
Rms?
Robert Murray Smith made a video saying that he was skeptical of the project a few days ago. He was quite polite, but dismissive.
It's worth a watch basically he said:
"The generator may be more efficient because of the moist air entering the intake, but as far as plasmoids and all go it seems fishy and I don't trust it."
Only slightly annoying thing he said was that paul pantone and Malcom Bendall have both had trouble with the law. Which is true when the law is corrupt.
He reads his comment and is a genuine fellow though.
…”You won’t see anything if you don’t look”… pretty sure I paraphrased that quote to death. Will find it highly amusing if when viewed under an SEM samples of that TSG that’s been tested on/off for 8 years shows structure like diamond and transmuted elements such as titanium appearing… you know matter that doesn’t usually make up Perkins Engines 😂
@@nicnoknoo Start with one thing and end up with something else. G, I wonder if there's any applications to that?
@@craigs.handle those from the “mainstream science community” are protecting their position. The best thing to come out of all this will be someone like BG saying to the community “I don’t care what your opinion on xyz is..There is titanium in this sample, how do you like them apples” 🤣🤣🤣
Polish the metal on the intake side of the sphere and see what happens. It's an optical phenomenon, not just thermal/magnetic.
using tungsten or titanium would be very interesting
You're trying to reinvent the GEET.
Typically a small, single cylinder engine, will have an Exhaust Emission of:
Normal Carburettor
CO2 = 12 - 14 %
CO = 3- 5 %
HC = 200 - 300 ppm
O2 = 0 - 3 %
Vaporising Carburettor
CO2 = +14%
CO = 0.0x %
HC = 0 - 50 ppm
O2 = 0 - 6% if its very lean
GEET System
CO2 = 0 - 1%
CO = 0 - 0.0x%
HC = 0 - 10 ppm
O2 = 18 - 20%
Has this something in common with the technology involved in orgonites/electronites? (resin×quartz×aluminum)
I want to build!
why not running an electric motor with the pressure that comes out?
To those who are doing an experiment to omit the spheres, three considerations:
- If it doesn't work as desired, perhaps add a third tube as the sealed core, similar to the core spheres.
- Does a much longer tubed section help?
- Has anyone ever tested inlet and exhaust traveling in the same direction? Hugely different particle interaction, I'd venture a guess. Individual carbonoxides and nitrogen oxides and incoming ionized air flow would be like people walking together with only glass in between. It could be tuned to have identical flow speed
Should we find out other configurations that offer complete removal of the carbons that plantlife cannot live without but drives billionaires and their minions berserk, then we can find ways to make it more compact. I suspect reactor inner surface divided by flow rate will be a key parameter. A 3D printed reactor could have a tremendous surface area for little volume. The outside of the outer tube being exposed to ambient air MAY be a factor, and this could of course be relatively eaqsily be tested by adding yet another tube on the outside and pulling it to a vacume, or filling it with various gasses such as argon, nitrogenoxide, etc, at various pressures. A vacuum there might actually help prevent the undesired tube/sphere implosion effects seen?
Surely GEET's problems were not due to the lack of spheres? Key difference: GEET bubbled the fuel, THOR ionizes and bubbles the inlet air. I don't remember what exhaust gasses were measured at the time?
All that sonic tuning of the spheres and these unwanted behaviours might be giving us hints as to how the ancient Peruvian style walls were buiilt. Do minerals soften?
exactly,👈
Yeah, you're right. That is a far a greater issue. I should have said an issue of optimization as opposed to using no spheres, it just tailed into the GEET discussion.
Maybe they soften like hutchison samples.
GEET made similar exhaust from what I remember.
I believe but cannot confirm that the geet through off more radiation, not sure about that.
I see no difference between Geet, in fact i have seen better emission results published with it approaching 20% oxygen output, I was not aware of any safety concerns either, perhaps you care to elaborate on that? they also shares the same magnetic anomalies, in my opinion its exactly the same thing, it seems the working principle is the counter rotating vortex with opposed inlet and exhaust direction. Can this be improved by instead of using spheres you can use a hyperbolic shaped funnel for inlet or exhaust, that would accelerate the vortex as would a pinch point in the center, Geet always used a shaped rod, with a narrow restriction which was the point of the highest magnetic anomaly.
Seriously though.. @felixaudet5860 your suggestion sparked an idea -
What if we could take a glass version of a bicycle reflector to achieve total internal reflection?
I say glass in place of plastic due to the extremely high melting point, we may be able to even "gimble" the heat, similar to a variable turbo where we can dissipate the heat in a manner to not let it build up and become an issue.
So the spheres are 304, and the tubing, the line feed on the welder is tungsten. Is there anything in choice of the material used to weld the spheres and tube to the spheres other than tungsten? I recall it being one of the preferred materials? Just want to confirm.
“The line feed on the welder is tungsten”
?
Not sure what you meant by that.
This task, it looks to me would require a TIG welder. The filler would be fed by hand.
The electrode tip would be tungsten but there are a few ss304 - 18/8 filler choices that would keep the weld ss304
@raycar1165 I'm not a welder. My friend has a laser welder. I asked him what would be fused into my spheres. He said tungsten so I was trying to make sure it's not something that would mess me up later.
censorship in the land of the free?! Wake up people, there’s no one at the wheel!
3rd comment removed for suggesting a real website on the internet, remember the real internet?!…
@chrisprysok7634
Material Welding is a good place to start.
No space.
I can’t tell you exactly where, that could reduce yt’s eyeball hours, you’ll have to find it on your own.
Thanks!
curious on how titanium will work
Is there a diference between the choice of Matérial
Stainless Steel 304L or 316L ?
Any ideas....just want an answer
G’day mate it’s a no brainer to use stainless for everything but keep up the good work I’m interested in building one at some point and your channel is helping greatly. Just a pointer when you’re showing pictures and diagrams put them up as full screen we don’t always need to see your ugly mug on one side.
Has anyone made it independently yet?
Stainless moves with heat A LOT!
..I've watched a vid about UV light and it doe's'n't say that air can be ionized by UV but the opposite so methinks this could be more bollocks
All kinds of different wavelenghts cause all kinds of ionization effects to particles. That's more or less how neon light works.
I see no evidence. Just talk.