im getting and htc tilt 2 in a couple of days and im so excited!! im so happy it has good reviews because it makes me happy that i made that choice..:)
@chardog78, but like you stated you have the TP2. The tilt 2 has little specifically developed for it. From ppcgeeks, "Touch Pro2 Cleanup by GoodThings2Life. Available in Sprint, Telus, and Verizon Editions of the Touch Pro 2." NOT THE TILT 2.
good comparison. you helped me to decide on the tilt2. i wish you did the comparison away from a sunny window, hard to see the screens on much of your demo... thank you for the time do put this together though.
Im getting the Tilt2 soon and i like it better because i have an itouch and i like it but i just think the sliding keyboard and windows 6.5 would be easier to use. The only thing about the tilt is that it is slow and i dont like not having muti touch. It is also nice on the iphone because when its in your pocket it wont press buttons or do anything to the screen. altough you can lock both and it is hard to unlock with the slide in your pocket. these are probably AT&Ts best two phones though
I prefer the iPhone, but I like the fact that you can add... a wallpaper without a jailbreak, but I think that for the multi touch display, the iPhone and iPod Touch will be the future of portable video gaming. I have an iPod Touch, and there are loads of free games on the app store, but I have never tried to download a game on a Windows Mobile phone, so I don't know what's better, but I hear that the iPhone App Store is better than any other portable online game store.
Hell yeah finally some HTC ppl! I'm actually on the Tilt 2 right now and I love it, best phone I've ever had... but now with the iPhone 4G coming out I think its time for a Tilt 3!
The Tilt 2 is the exact same phone as the Touch Pro 2, ATT is calling it the Tilt 2instead of the Touch Pro 2 like everyone else. That's just ATT's way of marketing the phone.
tilt2 is a lot better for texting. my previous phone was touch screen only, and it really can be difficult to text if ur not entirely focused on ur message
You make it sound like you can't use your finger on resistives, which isn't the case. I've used a fair few phones in my job and I can tell you now that the response times aren't much of a difference between capacitive and resistive, as long as its a well made one of course (high end - N97/TP2 etc). HTC's screens are pretty good. Not that it matters anyway, as long as it responds in a quick enough time i'm happy.
having never loaded youtube/jon4lakers on my tilt 2, i loaded it in skyfire versus the phones in this video and was loaded and playing before the iphones progress bar was complete. although the iphone does render much faster, skyfire is handsdown the best mobile web browser barnone.
"I liked your comparison although I have to say you compared the features that a casual smartphone user uses. The tilt2 is really optimized for a business power user. The fusion of the contacts with text messaging, phone conferencing and emails alone makes it a superior business phone. Thats before you get into pocket office and, vpn networking and MS exchange.
I'm going to start by saying I might be a little biased. I've been a PDA owner since 2004 and therefore a, used to a lot of the "issues" and shortcomings with Windows Mobile. Having said that, I think the Tilt II is he better phone. There's multi-tasking, stability (WTF) and more freedom in software. On a WinMo phone, if I want something, I can google it, and I can get it. The iPhone is like a motorcycle with training wheels mounted on it and if you take them off, it might not start
i can't wait for the htc hd 2 to come out in the US market. the hd 2, in my opinion will be the iphone killer. BTW it has a 1ghz processor, compared to the iphone's 600mhz.
they set the standard by having video YEARS late. they set the standard by including GPS YEARS late. they set the standard by locking the battery inside so you can't replace it. I can do without "standards" like that
That's like saying every phone that has a web browser was copying the first phone that did it. Don't be daft. Just because you innovate something doesn't mean those who follow have "copied" you.
i like the tilt but i dont really like the whole touch/physical keyboard buttons hybrid style phones also the resistive screens r such a pain 2 type on w/ my iphone i can type so quickly and so efficently because of the capacitive touch screen i barely have 2 touch the screen and so i just type very very quickly, much much much much faster than on a resistive screen or a physical keyboard but thats my personal preference
I can understand why the majority of consumers would rather have an iphone or an Android OS phone because they are much easier to navigate out of the box. Honestly though, I have had my Touch Pro 2 for 2 months now and I wouldn't change a thing. Once you know how to work a Windows phone, they do everything the others do. It's all a matter of learning how to use what you have. Winmo takes learning at first
@trailor73 I have one tilt 2.. and in hardware, it appears 65536 colors :P .. but anyway I prefer my tilt 2 instead of a Iphone.. i got word, excel, power point, a lot of freeware, nice touch, perfect keyboard, nice cammera.. almost perfect design.. windows extremly compatible, also radio, gps, g sensor, stylus, I can modified whatever I want.. this is a real PERSONAL PHONE!!.. and when they talk me about "saphari explorer" I say, Opera 10 :D.. REALLY LOVE THIS PHONE!!.. It's professional size
im getting one of these phones next week but still not sure which to get. iphone is awsome but no keybroad cant customize it like tp2 and a flash would be good.tp2 tho camera for some reason is grainy and web is slower. but im leaning to tp2..
well im a kid and i have the first generation of the iphone. I find it way to easy to use... As a kid i like spending time with my devices so i might go for tilt 2. I just hope im making the right decision.
tilt2 isn't the "exact" same as the touch pro2. the hardware is except for no front camera. tp2 is still using wm6.1, easily flashable to 6.5 though, and htc also admits to using a different screen for the tilt2, supposedly next to each other there is a minor difference in quality, tilt2 being a little worse, no complaints here.
he was comparing the touch, using the iphone, but as he doesn't have a touch he just used the features minus the phone. Plus the touch Vs the PSP go is a good comparison, both have a online store with games on. people have even said the ipod has better than ps one graphics. he can only review and compare what he has just remember, only saying, jon is one of the best reviews for tech on youtube!
Okay, here's what I don't get. Why does everyone compare their new phone or one that was just released to the iPhone? Everyone knows the other phone has better signal & coverage than the iPhone.
tilt2 is fantastic. sure windows mobile needs a jumpstart with a few programs, but does a computer come with everything right out of the box, and you are getting a computer. there really isn't a comparison to the iphone. it is my torrent downloader,full web browser(skyfire), gps, dvd player, i even installed an app for using my tilt2 as a wifi hotspot so that my wii or computer can have internet connection if there is no other wifi, and that's just to name a few.
i initially got the tilt2 and it lags so bad. This video shows the tilt2 having very smooth scrolling and fast response. But the one i got was soo slow, texting was horrible, it does not respond well to my entries. i went back to exchange for the iphone 3gs. so much better
I like the tilt 2 keyboard but I like the iphone's os. The tilt 2 os is kind of laggy compared to the iphone and i prefer the iphones touch screen. Another the thing about the tilt 2 that i dont like is the size. Its way to big.
well there in the same price range i believe it is a fare comparision. A bmw to a ford wouldent be fair cuz the bmw is 15-25k more. But both phones are int he same price range
i love my iphone jus that i like that the tilt 2 can tilt the screen tats about it really but i love my iphone jus tat that the iphone needs longer battery
Nice, what torrent downloader are u using? Skyfire is the best and no1 knows about it. Are u using WMwifiRouter or whatever it's called? Cuz when I used it My PS3 wouldnt pick up the signal because it's an Ad-Hoc Connection. Thanks.
well on the scrool for the tilt u can scrool like the iphone by jus moving your finger acrooss the phone..
once again, an awesome video! gd review jon!
Great review. I have Sprint touch pro 2 and loving it.
ALSO text Opera Mobile does text wrapping, so you don't have to scroll to the side to read the rest of a line
im getting and htc tilt 2 in a couple of days and im so excited!! im so happy it has good reviews because it makes me happy that i made that choice..:)
Thanks for offering such a fair and open comparison. It was great.
Tom
@chardog78, but like you stated you have the TP2. The tilt 2 has little specifically developed for it. From ppcgeeks, "Touch Pro2 Cleanup by GoodThings2Life. Available in Sprint, Telus, and Verizon Editions of the Touch Pro 2." NOT THE TILT 2.
This may be my NEW iPhone Tilt 2 (Touch Pro 2)
Iphonee EH ,
I JUST GOT THE TILT 2 today, love the feeel
ALSO the Touch HD2 has multi-touch
good comparison. you helped me to decide on the tilt2. i wish you did the comparison away from a sunny window, hard to see the screens on much of your demo... thank you for the time do put this together though.
This comparison makes much more sense than the iPhone vs PSP Go videos
i get the feeling that the tilt 2 is more a phone in the traditional sense, and the iphone more like a portable computer
discounts dont apply to the iphone, and upgrades are based on monthly reaccuring charges.
John you should talk about the speaker phone for the tild vs. iphone. The best browser for speed isn't safari, it is skyfire!
this was a really nice comparison
I have an iPhone 3GS and I love it.
not always from my experience.
hey jon, try closing the blinds next time. the screen's hard to see with sunlight shining directly on the screen
Absolutely!!!
Im getting the Tilt2 soon and i like it better because i have an itouch and i like it but i just think the sliding keyboard and windows 6.5 would be easier to use. The only thing about the tilt is that it is slow and i dont like not having muti touch. It is also nice on the iphone because when its in your pocket it wont press buttons or do anything to the screen. altough you can lock both and it is hard to unlock with the slide in your pocket. these are probably AT&Ts best two phones though
exactly..the tilt 2 does have something like app store..its called windows market place..
$299.99 with contract and $499.99 without contract.
Nothing bites the iPhone
I prefer the iPhone, but I like the fact that you can add... a wallpaper without a jailbreak, but I think that for the multi touch display, the iPhone and iPod Touch will be the future of portable video gaming. I have an iPod Touch, and there are loads of free games on the app store, but I have never tried to download a game on a Windows Mobile phone, so I don't know what's better, but I hear that the iPhone App Store is better than any other portable online game store.
Skyfire looks really cool. You should run that vs iPhone 3GS. I love the iPhone but a flash capable browser is cool.
Hell yeah finally some HTC ppl! I'm actually on the Tilt 2 right now and I love it, best phone I've ever had... but now with the iPhone 4G coming out I think its time for a Tilt 3!
God. Nothing will ever beat the iPhone. Don't you all get it?
jon you have to raise the brightness on the Tilt 2 its hard to see whats on screen because of glare
@lstulzer the phones are missing the phone calls!
no this is the tilt 2...it has a few different things than the touch pro 2
iPhone PWNS the touch pro 2.
The Tilt II comes with Windows Media Player built in.
Great comparo, thanks!
The Tilt 2 is the exact same phone as the Touch Pro 2, ATT is calling it the Tilt 2instead of the Touch Pro 2 like everyone else. That's just ATT's way of marketing the phone.
hey thanks jon for the vid it really help me to descide. but i wish more ppl would post vids of wat they dont like about the tp2.
haha, i think you are right :P the one that is sticky...those suck
tilt2 is a lot better for texting. my previous phone was touch screen only, and it really can be difficult to text if ur not entirely focused on ur message
nvm you did..
omg thanks jon i love this video. i have one question, why does the tilt cost more than the iphone?
keep on the ps3 vs xbox wars....
I WANT THE HTC TILT 2! Since last year, I've been asking for it. I vote for HTC Tilt 2
You make it sound like you can't use your finger on resistives, which isn't the case. I've used a fair few phones in my job and I can tell you now that the response times aren't much of a difference between capacitive and resistive, as long as its a well made one of course (high end - N97/TP2 etc).
HTC's screens are pretty good.
Not that it matters anyway, as long as it responds in a quick enough time i'm happy.
having never loaded youtube/jon4lakers on my tilt 2, i loaded it in skyfire versus the phones in this video and was loaded and playing before the iphones progress bar was complete. although the iphone does render much faster, skyfire is handsdown the best mobile web browser barnone.
iPhone 3GS FTW
got a 16gb white one
"I liked your comparison although I have to say you compared the features that a casual smartphone user uses. The tilt2 is really optimized for a business power user. The fusion of the contacts with text messaging, phone conferencing and emails alone makes it a superior business phone. Thats before you get into pocket office and, vpn networking and MS exchange.
in the unboxing u said that opera is not a fortunate choice....!!!!.????
i got the tilt 2 i love it, amazing. i went from a flip phone to the tilt 2, so amazings.
You should get some blackout curtains for the glare. :)
I'm going to start by saying I might be a little biased. I've been a PDA owner since 2004 and therefore a, used to a lot of the "issues" and shortcomings with Windows Mobile. Having said that, I think the Tilt II is he better phone. There's multi-tasking, stability (WTF) and more freedom in software. On a WinMo phone, if I want something, I can google it, and I can get it.
The iPhone is like a motorcycle with training wheels mounted on it and if you take them off, it might not start
3GS ftw!
i have to agree...
i can't wait for the htc hd 2 to come out in the US market. the hd 2, in my opinion will be the iphone killer. BTW it has a 1ghz processor, compared to the iphone's 600mhz.
I was too, don't get offended.
I, and many others, would like to disagree...
skyfire works well
iphone owns
Nice video.
i cant see the screen at all of the tilt. make sure it's a bit darker next time jon! thx
Reviews/ comparisons should be done by the devs, not random people that "research" the phone for a couple hours if not minutes.
they set the standard by having video YEARS late.
they set the standard by including GPS YEARS late.
they set the standard by locking the battery inside so you can't replace it.
I can do without "standards" like that
TOUCH PRO 2 YAY!!!
The OS on the TP2 is pretty damn choppy.
That's like saying every phone that has a web browser was copying the first phone that did it. Don't be daft. Just because you innovate something doesn't mean those who follow have "copied" you.
bad lighting
good video with mostly good info
only comparing on iphones stronger abilitys..
camera quality? customization?
Well the reason phones aren't like that is because holding it would be a problem.
i like the tilt but i dont really like the whole touch/physical keyboard buttons hybrid style phones
also the resistive screens r such a pain 2 type on
w/ my iphone i can type so quickly and so efficently because of the capacitive touch screen i barely have 2 touch the screen and so i just type very very quickly, much much much much faster than on a resistive screen or a physical keyboard
but thats my personal preference
I guess.
without the app store, these kinds of phones would beat out the iPhone
I can understand why the majority of consumers would rather have an iphone or an Android OS phone because they are much easier to navigate out of the box. Honestly though, I have had my Touch Pro 2 for 2 months now and I wouldn't change a thing. Once you know how to work a Windows phone, they do everything the others do. It's all a matter of learning how to use what you have. Winmo takes learning at first
tilt 2 is a pretty good phone
jon......?do u think that if apple makes a new iphone which im sure they will.....
will have a physical keyboard?
how about using annotations to display the numbers you are reading off instead of just spamming other videos?
To me the only downside on the iphone is that it doesnt have a keyboard but it doesn't really bug me
@trailor73 I have one tilt 2.. and in hardware, it appears 65536 colors :P .. but anyway I prefer my tilt 2 instead of a Iphone.. i got word, excel, power point, a lot of freeware, nice touch, perfect keyboard, nice cammera.. almost perfect design.. windows extremly compatible, also radio, gps, g sensor, stylus, I can modified whatever I want.. this is a real PERSONAL PHONE!!.. and when they talk me about "saphari explorer" I say, Opera 10 :D.. REALLY LOVE THIS PHONE!!.. It's professional size
Oh, OK. I just think it's strange that so few phones are as smooth as the iPhone. And the iPhone has been out for like 2,5 years! :P
im getting one of these phones next week but still not sure which to get. iphone is awsome but no keybroad cant customize it like tp2 and a flash would be good.tp2 tho camera for some reason is grainy and web is slower. but im leaning to tp2..
well im a kid and i have the first generation of the iphone. I find it way to easy to use... As a kid i like spending time with my devices so i might go for tilt 2. I just hope im making the right decision.
what is the weight difference?
tilt2 isn't the "exact" same as the touch pro2. the hardware is except for no front camera. tp2 is still using wm6.1, easily flashable to 6.5 though, and htc also admits to using a different screen for the tilt2, supposedly next to each other there is a minor difference in quality, tilt2 being a little worse, no complaints here.
he was comparing the touch, using the iphone, but as he doesn't have a touch he just used the features minus the phone. Plus the touch Vs the PSP go is a good comparison, both have a online store with games on. people have even said the ipod has better than ps one graphics. he can only review and compare what he has just remember, only saying, jon is one of the best reviews for tech on youtube!
Okay, here's what I don't get. Why does everyone compare their new phone or one that was just released to the iPhone? Everyone knows the other phone has better signal & coverage than the iPhone.
I wish i hadnt trashed my tilt 2
why does every phone have to be compared to the iphone?
tilt2 is fantastic. sure windows mobile needs a jumpstart with a few programs, but does a computer come with everything right out of the box, and you are getting a computer. there really isn't a comparison to the iphone. it is my torrent downloader,full web browser(skyfire), gps, dvd player, i even installed an app for using my tilt2 as a wifi hotspot so that my wii or computer can have internet connection if there is no other wifi, and that's just to name a few.
ya lol when jon reviews all these phones i never thought for a second that they would be better then the iphone
That's not what I meant and apple doesn't control what you install on your iPhone
why dont you jailbreak?? do a review on jailbreaking and all that
@Alm2nd ...I'm trying to decide between the two...I don't want to buy the wrong one...so what is it that you hate about the Iphone?
i initially got the tilt2 and it lags so bad. This video shows the tilt2 having very smooth scrolling and fast response. But the one i got was soo slow, texting was horrible, it does not respond well to my entries. i went back to exchange for the iphone 3gs. so much better
I like the tilt 2 keyboard but I like the iphone's os. The tilt 2 os is kind of laggy compared to the iphone and i prefer the iphones touch screen. Another the thing about the tilt 2 that i dont like is the size. Its way to big.
well there in the same price range i believe it is a fare comparision. A bmw to a ford wouldent be fair cuz the bmw is 15-25k more. But both phones are int he same price range
Hey Jon, I recommend before you do these type of videos you disable autolock settings.
I received MY early gift..The Tilt 2 THE SMARTEST phone YET .
i love my iphone jus that i like that the tilt 2 can tilt the screen tats about it really but i love my iphone jus tat that the iphone needs longer battery
Nice, what torrent downloader are u using? Skyfire is the best and no1 knows about it. Are u using WMwifiRouter or whatever it's called? Cuz when I used it My PS3 wouldnt pick up the signal because it's an Ad-Hoc Connection. Thanks.
I really like the HTC tilt 2 but it keep freezing and I would have to keep resetting it. I had it for only 5 months,before I gave up got the Iphone 3G
iphone ftw
iphone will always win hands down, it unbeatable