Pokemon Stadium 2 is THE MOST Difficult Pokemon GAME
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- Pokemon Stadium 2 is THE MOST Difficult Pokemon GAME that Gamefreak and Nintendo have made due to Gen 1 and 2 time period mechanics, rental teams, and unfair RNG. Pokemon on the N64 is such a crazy series, Pokemon Snap, Pokemon Stadium, Hey You Pikachu, and Pokemon Stadium 2, what a ride!
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Game was balanced around using Pokémon from your GB cartridge, but if you use rental Pokemon its a real challenge even for veteran Pokemon players
He said that literally 2 min in the video. Also, how well does that work on the Nintendo Switch Online version? Exactly!
@@BlackKoiRecords emulation works
Exactly
Go ahead, use a rental Pokemon, MAKE MY DAY!
ProtoMario Oh no!
I did as a kid (didn't have the transfer pack, did have Silver and Crystal)
I never was able to beat Claire's "dragon" pokemon, most of them wheren't even dragon
ProtoMario Do you still need to be very careful with team selection if importing from a gb?
kh123 sqsft They may have artist's block because of designing several monsters over the years, so that may be the reason, and for the years, it takes to design the iconic monsters, it would take around 2-3 years, depending on the development time of the game and the monsters produced, GSC was made, 3 years after RGBY in 1999, with RS, being made 3 years again in 2002, not counting Emerald or Fire Red/Leaf Green, and then another 3 years when the DS came in 2004, the generation 4 games were probably developed around the time, the DS released, Diamond and Pearl in 2006, again, not counting Platnium and Heartgold/Soulsilver, there seems to be a pattern, here. But I'll say the pattern is 2-3 years but mostly 3, since new generation games come after that number.
Of course its difficult when you're using a rental Pokemon Proto. This is a no brainer. I have the Transfer Pak that allow me to transfer my Pokemon into Stadium 2 to make the battle less frustrating (It's still a bit challenging though).
Beat it... 100%, like 3 times, with GB Pokémon it's easy, with rentals... yeah it's hard.
Given that I used my own pokémon, I never had any problem overcoming this game.
Well that's because you actually had a brain instead of using the stupid rental pokemon.
Cool
Thank you, Proto! I have said this for years, and my friends have only made fun of me for saying it. The difficulty of these two games is BS! Kind of wish this grueling style would come to the main line of games, tbh. Still, it's ridiculous. If the rental pokémon were just a little better it would be fun, but the sheer stupidity of making all the babies and lower evolutions of pokémon have amazing moves and giving big boys like Tyranitar mud-slap is insulting.
Your patience is commendable, Proto.
You have earned this like a couple times over. +1
Although the main games are much too easy, I wouldn't want them to be THIS hard either. I've had the game for almost 2 decades and I still haven't completed it.
Technically I could say the same thing. I've only gotten as far as Proto has, Round 1. I'm not nearly masochistic enough to play through that.
I've known it ever since I played either Stadium game.
Erika having Vaporeon was done so you couldn’t just spam fire types against her and make her more challenging. It’s why a lot of the gym leaders in both Stadiums have Pokémon that weren’t on their team.
An interesting fact: R-1 Erika is the only Gym Leader in Stadium 2 who has two aces that are always selected: Bellossom and Vaporeon. This means that her other four pokemon all fight for the third spot.
Glitch misses with Thunder
Proto: Glitch please! PLEEAASE!
Glitch misses with Thunder again
Proto: "Glitch!!! Glitch!b!!
Glitch misses with Thunder again
Proto: "Gliiiiiiitch!!!!"
Enemy Pidgeot uses Thumder on Glitch and hits on the first try
Proto: *NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!B!"
😂😂😂 Bro, that clip was short but I felt hours of anguish compressed into it!
What i always thought was unfair was that when the CP always have more chance of paralyzing , freezing , Crittical striking. And when My pokemon get confused then IT attacks himself for 4 Turns in a row
itsef/themselves
@@eb.3764 pokemon don't have pronouns gtfo here
That is untrue
@@despicableone4495 oke try playing pokemon stadium 1 , When the enemy uses Body slam its like 90% chance of paralyzing ur poke and when u use it it only has 30% chance
Sunlight, sandstorm, or rain hangs around until it's in my favor...
"So unbalanced, so unfair"
Melee in a nutshell.
Villager of SmashVille *FOX SITS ON A CHAIR OF GOLD*
Who would win in a fight Melee fox, Brawl Meta Knight or pre-patch Bayonetta?
StarTheAngel Bayomneta requires the least amount of practice to abuse put od the three.
StarTheAngel ACES Bowser Jr
Meta Knight
I love the Pokemon Colosseum games! With the first game, I loved having a protagonist who used to be a part of the bad team, and his character design was great. I wish it was more of a full-fledged game and you could explore more, but I had so much fun with what they were. I really wish they would come out with a third one.
4 years late but that vaporeon battle was miserable. Lots of the gym leaders were miserable. Took WAY too long. They give like every gym leader a move that’s a weakness to their weakness. So if they use electric. You use ground. But somehow they’ll have water moves. Just to piss you off and make team selection harder. I beat it, but with great strife and anger lol
Oh, wait, I wasn't imagining it? I recall me and my girlfriend trying to play this again recently since she had her N64 sitting around, and getting beaten up pretty hard using rentals. I figured it was just a stroke of bad luck or me being worse than I remember...
But oh, it's actually hard. Mind blown.
Pokémon Stadium 2... the ninja gaiden of mega man of darksouls
Of Pokémon
I remember this game ruining my childhood but i loved it at the time
And people say that every Pokemon game was for kids and is "too" easy.
If you use save scumming on an emulator, you can see that the battle system in stadium 2 doesn't work the same way as the game boy games, it's like it's rigged to give the computer a better chance or something. If you make a save state before selecting a move and try to use it to cheat against the RNG after your move fails or the like, you will just fail that move over and over again when loading that save state and selecting the move, as if the result is predetermined for each possibility before you've even selected anything :/
yep those games are rigged bs
I've also read that someone used gameshark codes to make all 4 enemy attacks Splash, and sometimes they would use a 5th move.
Not rigged at all, just get good.
@@doomswell Where did you read that?
Stadium 2 is basically the precursor to the Battle Frontiers from Gen 3 onward. They are just as insanely hard to beat.
I remember crying rage quitting this game so many times as a kid… Never managed to beat the whole masterball cup despite hundreds of hours
Fantastic game. The challenge made it so satisfying to finish.
As hard as Stadium 1 and 2 were, I had fun!
I actually loved coliseum, looking forward to that. Tried and beat stadium 1 on my n64 first try as a challenge with rental and when I beat it they gave me a Charmander that I could not pick up >_
All I remember from this game is getting cheesed by the computer in ways I had never imagined as a child.
can't wait for battle revolution.. that will be horrifying.
Pokemon Stadium 2 cemented my love for the first and second Generation of Pokemon.
After that, nothing was the same anymore with the new EV system.
Pokemon battles became faster as a result, due of them all becoming frail.
But the bulky Metagame by the Stat EXP atleast allowed us players more mistakes and room to breath, as well making the battle longer and meaningful.
But Protooooooo you can bring in your sweeper dunsparce
Oh hell yeah.
Need a Transfer Pak if he's playing on the original console.
Coliseum is actually good, it feels like a genuine 3D Pokémon game.
colluseum sucks compared to stadium 1 and 2
Kingdra is my fave pokemon i freaked out when the move freeze dry was announced.
Colosseum is better than the Stadium games, it can not be worse than this.
I prefer stadium 2 more but colleseuem(or however you spell it) is still good
Nobody would have blamed you for looking up how to spell colosseum.
E4est Yeah the word is tough as hell to spell
The game spelled it wrong so if you're looking for it being spelled correctly don't refer to the game's box lol
*Sees Pokemon stadium 2* *clicks right away*
We are simple people right here
Pokemon Stadium 2 is a gem. Of all of the Pokemon games, none is more interactive with the GameBoy games or contains as many functions between the N64 and Gen I and Gen II games. My own is loaded with Pokemon that I have caught and items that I have collected over decades. I've essentially caught them all and saved them in Prof Oaks Lab.
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WHO IS THIS MADMAN?!
I seriously dont remember these games being hard and all i used was rentals
Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2 run pretty perfectly with a newer N64 plugin I tried to inform you of during your Stadium 1 video. I'm sorry if this sounds snobby or anything; not my intention. Btw you can use that same plugin for pretty much any N64 game, so I'd still recommend looking into it.
I was 8 when I first played Pokémon Stadium and I don't think that it was *that* hard for me...
Tbh I ended up getting used to the rentals and learned how to work with them effectively. Wasn’t a very easy task with some of them. I’ll admit.
But it did help a LOT.
Colosseum is fun though... anyway it is a story based game.
I loved that game! The story was amazing and the fact you have all double battles was what Ruby and Sapphire should have done with their double battles, by of course I mean HAVE MORE OF THEM. Yes Emerald did that but considering that was all they talked about in the commercials that it did not in fact have, Ruby/Sapphire was not a disappointment, but was like "Really? Not many double battles...?"
kuramayoko23 The only gen 3 double battles outside of Battle Frontier matches that I can recall is the first or second sets of twins you fight early in the game....
and then mt battle makes you cry afterwards
@@anthonywestover5326 there are also the reoccurring tv reporter's
Colosseum is totally different, you'll live. Still no wild Pokemon though.
Did you know, that in terms of male human and female Pokemon breeding, Vaporeon is the most compatible Pokemon for humans?
I have a lot of fun playing Stadium with pokemon from the transfer pak, but Stadium 2 is practically impossible for me without using the glitch to get infinite continues, whether I use the transfer pak or not. Its just absurdly difficult, and youre right about the RNG feeling like the game is out to screw you over and help out the opponent however they can. While Stadium is difficult, its very enjoyable, but 2 is just a nightmare. I would have loved to see your commentary on the Challenge Cup in 2 where you arent allowed to pick your team. I got sweeped by a fucking Beedrill last night and just ragequit lol.
This and stadium one are the ONLY pokemon games that ever really made me appreciate pokemon for how they are built helping me understand better what to choose going forward to the battle frontier
Pokemon Gale of Darkness is awesome. 😍
Random pokémon in Stadium 2 are literally 💩.
Playing this on project 64. I just gave my crystal team a few gamesharks😅i wanna beat this game with my fav pokemon. Not a perfect Dv elektrode or jynx etc. So i gave heracross cross chop and did a soft reset to catch a nearly perfect Dv/Iv snorlax. Oh Yeah and i did copy some tms that i already got like, psychic, eartquake, toxic, icebeam, fireblast etc. its nearly not cheating... 🙈 but its a must for this game!
They weren't palying when they named the Challenge Cup 'Challenge'. It's so fucking hard
My god, this game was so fucking hard! What's even more disappointing is when you beat the story mode, you don't get Lugia or Ho-ho as rental pokemon :(
Gotta say I love the vids for both PS 1 and 2, the sounds used and you always saying rental Pokemon sucked!!!!! But you also forgot to mentioned that status changes really become OP in both than it would be in the GB game
This bird trainer will not stand a chance vs my electric mons.
Oh.. they all have mudslap?
This was my first Pokémon console game. It was the game that trained me on how to battle at a decent enough level.
F😉CKING AMAZING CONTENT
It’s Pokémon Stadium 3 in Japan, while for the West its Pokémon Stadium 2.
PINKYCULTURE it’s Pokémon Stadium 1 for the West
Thunder Man then what's 1 for them
epic Alex bros 😂😂😂
EagleZtoTheGrave 😂
epic Alex bros 1 is Japan-only, but you are not missing much. It only has about 50 of the 150 (not counting Mew for obvious reasons.) Pokemon in the Kanto Dex, and not many game modes. There was a plan to deliver additional content via the 64DD, but that was delayed, and when it DID come out, it flopped HARD. They just made a sequel instead.
Pokemon Stadium 2 was made for you to use the Gameboy Color games ALL the time. The "git gud" to 1000x making sure you use your own Pokemon
Ah but Coliseum and XD Gale of Darkness are such good games! I can’t wait to watch you beat em
What was your favorite fainting, and knocked back and walking back animation(s) from Pokemon Stadium and Pokemon Stadium 2? Mine are Slowbro fainting, Magnemite fainting, I mean he literally falls to pieces, Jigglypuff goes flat and floats down. Kadabra throws his spoon and hits him in the head, Alakazam walks back on two fingers. Those never get old! Tell me yours in the comments :)
Jynx fades from existence and becomes a wig LMAO.
ProtoMario I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU RESPONDED! I forgot that! Omg that was funny! Yes!!
RIP rival fight, Mewtwo, and Round 2.
omg that Vaporeon must've been a nightmare lmao.
2 years later... Nintendo suprise announces a stadium 3
Golden a stadium 3 with the adventure
Golden I means there’s already colosseum, XD, and battle revolution
the challenge cup was a nightmare. hate rental pokemon? how about not even getting the liberty to pick them yourself and battle with randomized teams? good luck, son! lol!
This was my first Pokemon game I have played! I'm thankful for that cause now it just means I can take on bs difficulty with a "smart" rental team of 6.
work on your “Noooo!” not enthusiastic enough. lol
I mean the rentals being trash was kinda of the game encouraging you to buy the transfer pack
This video aged like fine wine! Only exception is we do need a Pokémon Stadium 3. The reason I say this is because it's on the NSO. Let's see how trainers fair 😆 🤣!
This is the best 28 dollars I spent on a game, also spent over 100 hours building my Pokemon Gold teams for this game. Worth every freaking penny!!!
Was it really? I'm pretty sure there are better ways to spend that 100 hours than playing games with dying batteries/save loss in future, just to transfer those pokemon to a stadium games with no modern day relevance. Let's all admit, these two games ages really poorly.
@@Elmex_1 let me play you a sad song with the world's smallest violin 🎻
@@Samurai-Inferno assuming you don't have all gear, you might have to buy portable console (60-100usd) and game cartridges for it, just so you can get most out of a n64 pokemon game. Yeah there are better ways to spend time and money.
Jolteon (Holding an item that): Bite, Thunder Wave, Thunder Bolt, anything else
Touros (Holding a Bow, or that item that increases ground attacks ): Earthquake, Headbutt, Strength, Hyperbeam
Feraligator (Holding a miracle seed) : Surf, Bite, Attract, Headbutt
Archinine Holding. an item that increases fire attacks): Flamethrower, Dig, Dragon Breathe, anything else
Eggxecutor Holding a confused berry) : Stun Spore, Mega Drain, Psychic, Sun Light
Golem (Holding that item that makes you strike first 20% or 30% of the time) : Earthquake, Exposion, Rollout, anything else
These were my pokemons that I used to beat the game the easiest. I forgot the fourth attack on most of them, but with the attacks I listed, I was good enough to win a lot of times. I miss this game.😔
Rain dance + thunder is 100% accurate
I LOVED Colloseum! I never %100 finished it, but its story was amazing. Start with an Espeon and Umbreon and all were double battles, it did what I expected Ruby and Sapphire to do with the double battles. XD was good too but, in my opinion the story wasn't as good. But the numerous Shadow Moves and their mechanics (super-effective against normal, not ver effective against other Shadow Pokemon) made up for that.
The most stupid part was that a Rental NFE Pokemon had better attacks than a full evolved rental Pokemon
Round 2 Mode in Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2 are the true Hell.
I remember beating boltbeaming Mewtwo in Stadium 1 with a rental team; Thunder Wave, Flash, and every Pokémon that knows Horn Drill or Fissure. Eventually that move will hit.
Dont lower Mewtwo's HP because apart from Psychic, Thunderbolt and Ice Beam, he knows Rest.
Proto it's even more unfair and unbalanced if you use the rent pokemon their terrible move sets cause the pokegods to weep
If its as hard as people say it is then I'll say this...
Bring it on!
Yaay Pokemon Colloseums, also don't forget about Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness and Pokemon Battle Revolution.
I was born the year the 64 came out, and as a kid in the early 2000s, i knew that even then, this damn game was unbalanced haha
Yeah, Stadium mode is required to beat the game, it's not just extra content because in both games, you unlock the games' final boss for clearing both Gym Leader Castle and Stadium Mode and the credits play only after defeating the final boss. Round 2 is extra content.
You're also definitely not expected to rely on rentals. They're there to make the game playable if you don't own the GB games, but the game came bundled with the transfer pack and was designed for fans of Pokemon who would more than likely already have completed save files of these games. Most of the games' features are locked behind requiring the transfer pack for a reason.
The choice not to use Thunder is a biig oof. Under normal circumstances, I would agree that Thunderbolt is much, much better than Thunder because of its accuracy. However, not only is Thunderbolt only available as a TM in gen 1, meaning you're more likely to rely on Thunderpunch which isn't nearly as powerful, your rentals suffer in the stat department. They really *need* that extra power. Otherwise you may be turning a two-hit kill into a three- or even four-hit kill relying on Thunderpunch instead.
The Kanto gym leaders actually aren't nearly as bad as anything in the Johto tower because you only have to battle the gym leaders with no trainers leading up. If you lose, you can just try again right away. Inconsistent strategies are actually a lot more viable here.
That said, in spite of your decisions, I have to commend you for being able to clear the Gym Leader Castle with only rentals. That is a huge feat as it's difficult even to do it with a party of GB pokemon!
This game is still amazing
What I remember when I played Stadium 2 was going through the Academy, playing the minigames, beating round 1 and then never touching the game ever again.
Proto you are the best!
omg i remember this comment! I hope we play destiny together again some day!
rentals in pokemon stadium 2 were just horrendous and underpowered. Venosaur with tackle??
Pokémon with thunderbolt but none exist
Pikachu "am I a joke too you?!"
I only played Stadium 1 so, it may be different with Stadium 2 but in Stadium 1. The final boss is Mewtwo and you have to beat the Stadium mode, and the Gym castle in order to face him. After when you beat Mewtwo, the credits will come up. The Stadium is a thing you have to do to beat the fucking game, that's why the game so hard (At least for 1 and it's probably for 2 as well).
I never got past team rocket on the bridge when I was a kid for like years lol lol
This game is meant to be post game content for gold and sliver. Which was much better than the post game content in future games that was just randomly generated for the most part.
I find this hilarious XD. As a 7 year old kid I beat Pokemon stadium all the time with rentals. I never had a gameboy pokemon game to transfer pokemon didn't even know that was a thing.
I REMEMBER ERIKA'S VAPOREON WAS IMBALANCE ITSELF
Hi Proto! I like your vids and your style and humour. Sadly but I couldn't watch your streams in time because of my time zone (UTC +5, Russia), but I watch them after. Thank you for your letsplays, you make me smile. Wish you luck! And waiting for Gen 3 games! ;)
Hahaha this was great. Really dig this new direction your taking some of your content. Keep up the great work man!
People only played it for the mini games. If you didn't then I feel bad for you
Imagine beating round 1 of gym leader castle only and thinking you've beaten Pokémon Stadium 1 or 2. lol. No.
Congrats on your Conquest of Pokemon Stadium 2 Proto!! & Good Luck with Colosseum! Oh! I think your scream was better than Darth Vader's.
Am I the only one who read the thumbnail as “This Pokémon Came is soul crushing cruel “ ?
I think a gold card on Pokemon Emerald minus the Pokedex is harder.
I can't wait for you to review Pokemon Colosseum, Proto! I loved that game when I got it on Gamecube after saving up for it when I was a kid
Battle Revolution? That's basically Stadium but with worse limited rental Pokemon lol.
Lance is not a true Dragon Master but a Flying Master
Colosseum is a legendary game its nothing like stadium although it has a similar game mode where you battle with rentals you will love that 🤣 I still say they need to make a modern day stadium 3 with all 1000+ Pokémon available though
Last video: Dude, winning round 1 with rentals is no biggie.
This video: agree... I won't even try to disagree, I pulled 1000 hours (not counting time spent in the minigames) easy in this game as a child and never finished Round 1.
That's another thing, stop saying the gym castle is how you complete the game, it's not! The tournaments are the main game and the gym castle the extra.
EDIT: .......there's...... a Kanto gym castle too?........... I thought the elite 4 I couldn't beat was the actual end of the game............
Hey Proto! 🔥🔥New theory or video idea for you! Remember doing the jynx’s clothes and similar theory’s.. you should do one on what Sythers syth’s are made out of... idk sounds interesting if you really think about it 🤔
Considering the Stadium games were my first experience of Pokemon..... consider myself a badass. I treasure my experiences, yes even the rage inducing ones.
6:09 Glitch please he is gonna use Sky Attack Glitch please!!😂
I've played Pokemon Stadium 2 and I've even made a Longplay of it. I completely agree with the Gym Leaders have Pokemon that make no sense like Morty in Round 2 having an Exeggutor, a psychic type in a ghost gym. He gave me so much hell.
Also even trained Pokemon will have a hard time against battles. I spent 30 minutes on Brock in round 2 because he'd keep using Fissure and it would almost always strike my Pokemon despite the 30% accuracy. That's not realistically possible, even in the handheld games. I'll be so happy to finally finish all of round 2. I just have the Challenge Cup, but even that has given me a crazy amount of hell
I feel like the HAX Rate of Stadium 2 is even more increased when you use Transfer Pak Teams. I have been using Rentals and let's just say Voltorb is your best friend;D
Self Destruct (most likely one hit KO after Thunder or Mirror Coat Kill), Mirror Coat to deal with Special Attackers, and Thunder can 2 Hit KO most Pokémon. Rain Dance helps Thunder never miss but against Fire Types is the most useful
I beat it as a kid. Oh I just did the tournaments. I never beat the castle.
Now for Colisseum, Battle Revolution and XD, oh and there's Poke Park 1 and 2 on Wii.
Pokemon Colosseum is one of the best games in the franchise fr