The funniest thing is that I'm pretty sure 1 in 65k is the lowest RNG odds of _anything_ in the entire franchise. Even full odds shinies in older generations are 1 in 8192. If you miss an attack in stadium, you're simultaneously the most and least lucky Pokémon player ever
@ShermTank Well, not quite. Rarest thing in battle, yes, but the actual single rarest thing would be catching Identical Spinda. See, there's nearly 4 billion possible spot patterns for Spinda, so the chances of catching the same pattern *twice* is so incredibly rare that it's realistically never going to happen to you. As far as singular calculations, it's the rarest thing in Pokemon. That's not even getting into doing that with Shiny Spinda, or what is the rarest possible event in Pokemon, which would be a swarm encounter with 5 Shiny Identical Spinda, same gender, same nature, perfect IVs, hidden abilities, all with Pokerus. Which is a possibility so remote and unlikely that the number has nearly as many digits as there were Pokemon in RBY.
@@shiftfire4511 Kinda, but those examples are all "land two things in a row", which is different to just missing a move in gen 1 stadium. Of course, the chance is that low because it runs the check two times and that squares the already low chance, but for the player it's only a single event
@@shiftfire4511 I could be mistaken, but aren't Spinda's spot patterns determined by IVs? So a horde of Spinda that all have perfect IVs would necessarily be identical pattern?
Stadium is an absolute godsend for anyone with a special place in their heart for middle evolutions. A lot of them strike the balance of having halfway decent movesets on passable stat totals. Baby cup also deserves a mention for being specifically created so that the most adorable mons could pummel eachother to pulp for my amusement.
I have not finished this yet and I screamed. I distinctly remember missing surf on an Alakazam as a child in stadium. I remember the entire arena filled with water and it just standing there with, "Oh! It missed". Years later I found out about the 256 glitch and though, yeah that makes sense. You have just taught me this was incorrect. Thank you for giving me retroactive closure and anger over an event that happened 2 decades ago because I was unlucky.
I remember seeing Misty's Gyarados use flamethrower in the anime so I made mine learn the move because that looked awesome, lets say I was dissapointed
love the way that rentals clumsily tries to squeeze together all base stat totals via stats and movepools, and also seems eager to make sure that you, a 10 year old, have better pokemon than the rentals. that way you are still a cool genius for running surf on water pokemon rather than like, bubble. i was really hoping to see you do a deep dive on this because i remembered that much but the nitty gritty of it is so neat and silly, thank you!!
I was just playing Stadium for the first time in decades and thinking “I wish one of those poke-tubers would do a video to explain all these dumb rental Pokémon”. So I don’t know why you made this video, but I feel like you made it for me, and I appreciate that.
Big Yellow made a 45 minute video discussing dozens of different RBY Pokémon, and managed to avoid saying the word Pinsir even once. This is character development.
I was kinda hoping Pinsir would be viable, but the good mons here rely on having at least 2 decent moves, and Pinsir needs its whole arsenal to actually do stuff
Okay I forgot this in my first comment but I wanna say I’m very strongly looking forward to Big Yellow nicknames with the “your nickname affects your Pokemon’s colour palette” mechanic from Stadium
Jynx's feet is a very peculiar topic. She appears to not have feet normally, instead she just materializes feet out of nowhere, which are also disconnected from her body. To make this even weirder, Jynx's footprints are totally absent from any Pokédex that supports footprints. The only thing holding all this mystery together is Jynx's Stadium faint animation, where Jynx's body disintegrates except for her hair.
You know who was surprisingly decent? Weezing/Muk. When there are less Psychics and Earthquakes running around and you've got a decent movepool and stats with Selfdestruct, you can actually put in work. Everything being so frail means not much actually wants to switch in.
"Zapdos is the most pretty solid Pokemon of all time" - Reverend I was absolutely not expecting this quote to apply to Rentals, guess it really is true
A game where you just design your Pokémon showdown-style sounds great. They could have you battle through the cups to unlock better moves or more stat experience/EV's to distribute or better held items or better Pokémon, stuff like that.
For what it's worth, Electrode has the niche of being the fastest Thunder Wave user in the game. It can't do anything else other than that, but hey, getting a nearly-guarantied paralysis on Mewtwo on his Versus match is still pretty valuable at least.
yeah I always beat Mewtwo as a kid by paralyzing it with Electrode and then spamming OHKO moves. which only work if you're faster. and Mewtwo can't use Rest if you just leave it at full HP.
I never knew about the Hyper Beam reset being removed from Stadium until very recently, which is crazy because it's such a significant move in RBY. However, the fact you don't take recoil damage on knockout is something I NEVER knew until now.
I find it so interesting how they attempted to balance every single pokemon in the game via DVs and movepools. Giving early stage evos better movesets than the full evos and slightly bringing their stat totals closer together.
I just love the way you edit your videos, but if there’s one thing I’ve noticed about the way you construct your videos, it is that you somehow always manage to find the most nostalgia-enhancing music ever. Crash Bash was everything to me as a child and hearing that music for the first time in nearly a decade was great.
Paras having a funny little niche is EXACTLY the kind of weird goofy bullshit that I love about these obscure metas. It's almost inspiring, really. If Paras can make something work in a silly way, surely I can make it work too.
Due to the fact that the AI almost never switches, I actually didn't know that partial trapping was nerfed in Stadium. Still curious what sort of speed tier they gave Rapidash because there is definitely enough Thunder Wave floating around to have a bit of fun with Fire Spin
I remember playing Stadium as a kid who didn't understand that special moves didn't use the attack stat, and think Rhydon was amazing because Surf was a sick move in casual RBY (I also didnt know about stab lol)
@@glitchedoom I always love that passage in a Fire Red Leaf Green hack where Blaine ask you if Rhydon can learn Surf and laugh at you if you answer yes ... until he find out that's the correct answer and plunge into disbelief.
A couple of years ago during a “party”, some friends dusted off their Pokemon Stadium cartridge, and we played this exact metagame. We were choosing teams on the fly, and the winner had to change his team every time. Well, I wasn’t aware I was so deep into this metagame during my childhood, until I swept my adult friends so hard. I haven’t even thought about that game in almost two decades! This video is for me! ❤
This might be one of my favorite youtube channels. There are no flaws in each video. Perfect length, great quality, great audio, great pacing, and he covers topics no one else talks about in astounding detail. Coincidentially, things I am interested in. I can't even hate on the upload times because the videos are just SO GOOD! I also don't know how difficult it is to put out this content so I can't have a true opinion on that anyways.
This was great! I didn't have a way to transfer my gameboy Pokemon over to my N64, so I could only play with rental Pokemon. Seeing the differences between rentals and OU now that I'm not 7 and know what a good Pokemon moveset looks like was interesting, as well as finding out which Pokemon are some of the best in the format. Though I have to say, I'm pained that you mentioned Kabutops by name in a video about stadium rentals without drawing any attention to the fact that he gets Mega Kick in rentals and performs it in the most over the top way possible.
That slow sleep from Paras is funny and reminds me of the new Toedscruel in Gen 9. It has the same stats as Tentacruel but is a grass/ground type with Spore. Gamefreak obviously looked at this and realised a 100 base speed spore user sounded terrifying so they intentionally gave it a new ability that makes all it's non damaging moved have -1 priority and go last but with the upside of being able to ignore other Pokémon abilities that would otherwise be immune to the status (basically to counter the new Gholdengo and Garganacl). Because it always goes last using spore it's gauranteed at least 1 free sleep turn
Also, on a note unrelated to the video but just occurred to me after hearing "Cloyster" and "Exeggutor" in the same sentence, R[G]BY has basically always had a sort of alternative Fire/Grass/Water trio when it comes to things like Blue's Champion team or the unused Oak team; a trio of Arcanine, Exeggutor, and Gyarados, with one of them being swapped out by the starter of the respective type as needed But I'm only now realizing that Gyarados is a bit of a weird pick for the Water filler, considering Arcanine and Exeggutor both require their respective evolution stones while Gyarados is a level evolution I dunno, I guess now that I'm actually thinking about it, I feel like Cloyster would've been a more "fitting" Water filler over Gyarados
Have had Stadium since 2000 and have never been able to beat everything so I'm ready TO LEARN. The rental random runs on Twitch have been a blast to watch.
I barely play RBY (more of an ADV/VGC kinda guy right now), but the capacity you have to suck me in and make me want to hear about all the little nuances of this tiny sub-metagame is incredible. I expressed audible shock and disbelief when you got to the crit mechanics
I unironically like the idea of more pokemon formats where people are more restricted, but in interesting ways. Stadium 1 without RBY carts was actually one of my favorite things, ESPECIALLY the random battles; because as you mention, make do with what you have. I think thats a real challenge of someones understanding of the game! It's neat. :3
Love the video :3 I also wanted to share my love for rental Rhyhorn, which I prefer over graveler, and I wish was talked more. Their bulk are pretty similar and yes, the 10 less speed, atk, and lack of selfdestruct hurts Rhyhorn when comparing the two, his access to Rock Slide is really what makes him my favorite of the two. His MU becomes positive against Zapdos and Aerodactyl and, most importantly, the opponent cannot easily switch in a flying type such as Articuno or Moltres to avoid an earthquake in fear of the Rock Slide read. All of this without losing a MU that Graveler would win, but losing the ability to remove a treat with selfdestruct really puts the two on that grey zone of who's the best. Overall really happy to see my favorite game's metagame being covered and I can't wait to test out Paras :D
I find it funny that Articuno and Zapdos both have Sky Attack (which neither learns naturally), but Moltres (who does learn Sky Attack naturally), doesn't get it in Stadium.
Wow! Pokemon Stadium was my first game ever, and being born in 2001 meant that the original Gameboy + games were basically unobtainable for a lad as young and broke as myself. Seeing this video brings back sooooo many memories of being cheesed the fuck out by those stupid fucking gamblers and super nerds! Love the video as usual
Might I add that the tournament format and strict rules the game operated under, and even the limited "team builder" are probably the reason my enjoyment of Pokemon has always been more competitively focused than gameplay oriented. Pokemon Showdown/Smogon for life!
The Gameboy games were "unattainable" back in 2001? I could've sworn that they literally didn't stop production of RBY til at least 2003 or 2004. Shouldnt have been that hard to find. Nowadays they're quite expensive though
God, don’t even get me started on rental sets in Stadium. Massive shout out to Stadium 2’s Machamp rental. Machamp has like one thing going for it in GSC, and that’s a terrifying Cross Chop. Rental Machamp gets Submission. Need I say more?
Charizard gets Fire Punch, too, which is definitely a downgrade from Stadium's Fire Blast. Stadium 2's move sets are... Interesting, to say the least. 😅
There's something both funny and neat about both members of the Meowth line being among the best in two different side-metagames [even if 7U is a bit more on the "imaginary" side]
This video is fantastic dear, thank you. As a poor kid non-us and everything considered buying stuff was out of my reach so when I played pokemon stadium i had no way to train my own pokemons, i went through the game with rentals only in all cups. It was harsh to say the least, specially as a kid who didn't know much english -I always remember a lvl 15 tentacruel in one of the little cups being super fast, strong, having thunderbolt, nightmarish
"raticate has the potential to be very rewarding and, more importantly, very funny" please keep doing this, i love your content! it satisfies a spot in my brain that no other youtuber does :)
I played ALOT of of pokemon stadium rentals as a kid or teen. Story time my local video game store would host tournaments of pokemon stadium rentals. I want a couple of the tournaments back in the day and usually got top 4 if I didn't. I love seeing the resurgent in this format now that it's been many moons since those tournaments at game over video games. The only two Pokemon on my regular team you did not cover is Dragonair which is a good honest special beat stick and more importantly dewgong. Which functions as a pretty fantastic stall Pokemon and check to pokemon that give my main Jolteon a hard time. With rest, Aurora beam, surf and headbutt. If you don't have a super effective move your likely to not be able to knock it out before it wakes up from rest. My winning team if I recall right was: Abra, Jolteon, dewdoug, dragonair, Jynx, and Gengar. This video was a blast from the past and a delight to watch. If they ever go back to hosting tournaments in the year 2023. Then I might play around with adding Persian. Never thought about that mon.
Really big fan of some of the sight gags here, like Starmie going shopping at the big physical attack clearance sale. I liked seeing all the old sprites and classic Sugimori illustrations, too. It was very fun to learn about this crazy, limited metagame. Thanks for the great video!
I love simplified metagames like these, and stadium is one my favorite pokemon games of all time. It's all about battling, the best part of the series! (and minigames)
I feel like Metronome is buffed in Stadium. It rolls super effective damaging moves way more than should be probable. I enjoyed the video, I hope you do one when Stadium 2 drops on NSO!
This overall was incredibly fascinating. I usually put your videos on when I am just casually playing Pokemon myself anyway, but this one was absorbing, I didn't realize I knew so little about a game I've casually played since 2000. I think I kinda just assumed it worked the same as RBY and just never payed attention when Double Edge or whatever didn't act the same. Great vid.
I have to say I LOVE your content. Over the last nine days, I have listened this video four or five times already while just doing busywork or playing videogames. I know what to expect but I am always entertained!!
I saw the title and immediately thought of Skull Bash Alakazam from one of the poke cups😂 Also, I never saw this channel intersecting timewise with the Ray Narvaez extended universe
Someone understands the investment I’ve done in rentals multiplayer. Actually had multiple small tournaments last summer and various small battles. It taught me a lot about what Pokémon rule in free for all. Still figuring out what’s good in stadium 2.
Me and another r/Stunfisk user had the idea of Dynamax Adventures Rentals. Not particularly well balanced though with Speed Boost Close Combat Blaziken vs Physical Politoed (Not even the preferred Rain Setter in the format since Pelipper with Weather Ball exists)
as a kid, i didn't even know it was possible to transfer your own pokemon into Stadium, and i only used rentals. i literally had no idea they were bad!
Amazing video mate, it was very interesting to watch ,thanks. Edit: stadium 2 when? I remember they gave charizard fire punch with swords dance in a gen without physical/special split..😐
I've been binging many of your older videos over the last couple days - they're very rewatchable thanks to your humor! Very happy to see new stuff from you.
I'd say the move that stands out the most on snorlax is metronome, because metronome is funny. Also I would like to say I recently started watching your pokemon content and I love both your content and your look. You have encouraged me to put on nail polish again and I'm thinking of restyling myself to look more androgynous, so, thankyou :)
Wait... Dig is allowed in an RBY meta?!?! FINALLY!! That one person who wanted to use their ingame team is validated!! ...Oh, right. Rentals only. Good luck next time, I guess.
Yay, another Stadium video on YT by one of my favourite creators! Love the shoutout to PvK too 😍Nonetheless I was kind of disappointed by the fact you only covered the Rentals following a more "traditional" RBY OU's setting instead of focusing into the actual Stadium only Cups. I assume that there is the perception that the majority of your audience has had some kind of Smogon competitive background prior to watching this video, but for all the casual users that might enjoy a more accesible meta like Stadium Rentals then a more generalistic approach would have been a more enjoyable introduction to the meta. Aside from that, I got really fascinated by your final thoughts regarding the potential for this kind of meta to be "completly solved" in the short term because of its pretty "fixed" nature, and that's why the "bring 6, pick 3" format gives it it's unique charm! Sure, you have access to ALL the relevant information regarding both your and your opponent's team, but if you are forced to choose a team composition before every battle then the meta gets a little more dynamic and unpredictable (barring hax of course 😋). I guess that the "standard" 6v6 Rentals could eventually evolve into "glorified chess", while the original "bring 6, pick 3" one could turn into a "retro VGC" game, just like in the good'ol days of hardware tournaments. Finally, shoutouts to KAZAMISH, the infamous Lv. 20 R2 Pika Cup Alakazam! (Would love to know your take on Pika Cup someday!). Best regards and thanks a lot for 00:30 🥰
New 40+ minute long video on a niche competitive meta for a game I don’t play this video is about to go CRAZY
This is exactly the content I'm here for
Agreed
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"fixing" a bug by just running the same bugged calculation again instead of actually fixing it is legendary game design philosophy
The funniest thing is that I'm pretty sure 1 in 65k is the lowest RNG odds of _anything_ in the entire franchise. Even full odds shinies in older generations are 1 in 8192. If you miss an attack in stadium, you're simultaneously the most and least lucky Pokémon player ever
@ShermTank Well, not quite. Rarest thing in battle, yes, but the actual single rarest thing would be catching Identical Spinda.
See, there's nearly 4 billion possible spot patterns for Spinda, so the chances of catching the same pattern *twice* is so incredibly rare that it's realistically never going to happen to you. As far as singular calculations, it's the rarest thing in Pokemon.
That's not even getting into doing that with Shiny Spinda, or what is the rarest possible event in Pokemon, which would be a swarm encounter with 5 Shiny Identical Spinda, same gender, same nature, perfect IVs, hidden abilities, all with Pokerus. Which is a possibility so remote and unlikely that the number has nearly as many digits as there were Pokemon in RBY.
@@shiftfire4511 Kinda, but those examples are all "land two things in a row", which is different to just missing a move in gen 1 stadium. Of course, the chance is that low because it runs the check two times and that squares the already low chance, but for the player it's only a single event
@@shiftfire4511 I could be mistaken, but aren't Spinda's spot patterns determined by IVs? So a horde of Spinda that all have perfect IVs would necessarily be identical pattern?
@@LordTonzilla no it's a specific value tied to spinda. You can have two spinda with the same IVs and it's spots will be different
I want to thank you, and by extension Stadium Rentals, for giving us the phrase "only beaten out by Raticate's Hyper Beam".
Stadium is an absolute godsend for anyone with a special place in their heart for middle evolutions. A lot of them strike the balance of having halfway decent movesets on passable stat totals. Baby cup also deserves a mention for being specifically created so that the most adorable mons could pummel eachother to pulp for my amusement.
I brought Farfetch'd to the Petit Cup and it was an absolute menace with Swords Dance. MVP
@@fernando98322 Farfetch'd in Petit Cup and G-Farfetch'd in pre-DLC Little Cup both terrorizing a baby metagame
Dratini in Little Cup can screw all the way off, however.
@@fernando98322 I did too Farfetch'd is a menace!!!!
Stadium baby cup is what cemented my love for baby mons. I've carried on as a baby mon apologist for 25 years and I show no signs of stopping.
I have not finished this yet and I screamed. I distinctly remember missing surf on an Alakazam as a child in stadium. I remember the entire arena filled with water and it just standing there with, "Oh! It missed". Years later I found out about the 256 glitch and though, yeah that makes sense. You have just taught me this was incorrect.
Thank you for giving me retroactive closure and anger over an event that happened 2 decades ago because I was unlucky.
I had one happen while recording for this and I was caught so off guard, it's such an insane thing to just exist in a game
I'm pretty sure they fixed the 256 glitch in Stadium (in fact, I think now every move has an additional 1 in 256 chance to hit).
Hey, it's even rarer than meeting a Shiny Pokemon!
It's very lucky in a way
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 this unshakable optimism is commendable
Wtf I remember missing surf as well, dam. I'm gonna put the lottery on tonight haha
Having both team preview and knowledge of the movesets make Pokémon almost into a fighting game, hey right at home on this channel
This is my pipeline into making more fighting game vids again
Fighting Game Gold: Kliff Undersn is one I think might be fun
Like chess but you have to flip a coin to move your Queen or something.
This feels like the kind of meta that would go well with a ban-pick draft style of game
Beware the pipeline
Pokemon > final fantasy > yomi hustle > smash > fighting games
Those Rhydon and Golem movesets (Rhydon's especially) have big 8 year old "strong coverage move go brrrr" energy to them
Rhydon especially is some shit 7 y/o me would've been stuck with for sure
Pretty sure Rhydon can fire blast a _Parasect_ and it'd still live
@@brunop.8745 Yeah, Rhydon has a pitiful special stat (gen 1) and why use a Rhydon with a special attacking move
And that little kid is named Palmer and will later uses a Special Rhyperior in the Battle Tower.
I remember seeing Misty's Gyarados use flamethrower in the anime so I made mine learn the move because that looked awesome, lets say I was dissapointed
love the way that rentals clumsily tries to squeeze together all base stat totals via stats and movepools, and also seems eager to make sure that you, a 10 year old, have better pokemon than the rentals. that way you are still a cool genius for running surf on water pokemon rather than like, bubble.
i was really hoping to see you do a deep dive on this because i remembered that much but the nitty gritty of it is so neat and silly, thank you!!
It also gives Unevolved Pokémon some potential utility for people who like to root for the underdog. Much like the Surge Battle in the anime.
Gotta love the "I talk about random bullshit for over half an hour because I can" channels. They always make the most rewatchable videos
Especially ones that minimally change over the years, continuing to talk about random bullshit because they can
@@Scutezo and keep their personallity largely the same as how they started out, and stay chill throughout.
@@Scutezo sounds like penguinz0
I'm already on my 4th rewatch of this video
@@MishKoz don't even ask me how many times i've seen the Glitchmon vids. I lost track...
I was just playing Stadium for the first time in decades and thinking “I wish one of those poke-tubers would do a video to explain all these dumb rental Pokémon”.
So I don’t know why you made this video, but I feel like you made it for me, and I appreciate that.
Mate it's only been out 2 decades...
Big Yellow made a 45 minute video discussing dozens of different RBY Pokémon, and managed to avoid saying the word Pinsir even once. This is character development.
Lol I was expecting Pinsir at the end instead of Paras
Rental Pinsir is as bad as a RBY Mon can get.
Yikes.
I was kinda hoping Pinsir would be viable, but the good mons here rely on having at least 2 decent moves, and Pinsir needs its whole arsenal to actually do stuff
They fumbled Pinsir bad in rentals I just kinda blocked it out the best I could
Time to dub the name of every other Pokémon with Pinsir
Seeing a tree get drop kicked by a Snorlax certainly puts the fear of god into a person
It’s now Wokelax
Okay I forgot this in my first comment but I wanna say I’m very strongly looking forward to Big Yellow nicknames with the “your nickname affects your Pokemon’s colour palette” mechanic from Stadium
Oh so that's what that was lmao
It *what*
no shot
@@Holidoll
Green electabuzz is iconic, I forgot it’s shiny for years because of that one
@@BigYellowSillyow did you not know about stadium's most iconic mechanic?
Jynx's feet is a very peculiar topic.
She appears to not have feet normally, instead she just materializes feet out of nowhere, which are also disconnected from her body. To make this even weirder, Jynx's footprints are totally absent from any Pokédex that supports footprints.
The only thing holding all this mystery together is Jynx's Stadium faint animation, where Jynx's body disintegrates except for her hair.
One of the best fainting animations
My headcanon is that her "body" is actually a sort of "hard light" projection from her hair. I didn't steal this concept from anything embarrassing.
@@novameowww theres no way adventure zone is any more embarrassing than playing niche competitive pokemon formats
@@jacksonstein8866 It's steven universe unfortunately. but you're still right
I always just assumed that Jynx just flat out died in Stadium. Like oh shit I killed her.
29:01 I really love this art of Gengar. Bro is absolutely DEVIOUS, he is PLOTTING something.
Gengar looks like his signature move is submachine gun
Something malicious is brewing.
*blows up on Alakazam*
@@Roddy-g2d bro has the Hidden Ability: Tax Evasion
that's the face of someone who's up to no good and I'm all for it
@@FancyMcSchmancynah you mean Kadabra, right?
You know who was surprisingly decent? Weezing/Muk. When there are less Psychics and Earthquakes running around and you've got a decent movepool and stats with Selfdestruct, you can actually put in work. Everything being so frail means not much actually wants to switch in.
I totally see it honestly, I haven't seen them talked about a ton but I can easily see both putting in work
Weezing also has that goated base defense to switch into Double Edge Spam
Love to see my poison boys being useful for once.
"Zapdos is the most pretty solid Pokemon of all time" - Reverend
I was absolutely not expecting this quote to apply to Rentals, guess it really is true
BDSP (and Gen 5 ig) are the only times it doesn’t apply
"In pokemon stadium rentals, Zapdos will be Pretty Solid" ~Reverend, probably
@@carucath97 I've heard people argue the he's almost as good as Snorlax in Gen 2 OU, so there's that too
@@victorhundred8621 iirc in the tournaments where snorlax was banned for the funnies zapdos was overwhelming. So yeah, zapdos is pretty solid
A game where you just design your Pokémon showdown-style sounds great. They could have you battle through the cups to unlock better moves or more stat experience/EV's to distribute or better held items or better Pokémon, stuff like that.
If game freak made a pokemon game like that I'd buy a switch.
Given the popularity of Showdown, I'm genuinely kind of surprised Nintendo hasn't tried to capitalise on the niche yet
9:10 so innovative for them to be using gen9 VGC team sheets this early
For what it's worth, Electrode has the niche of being the fastest Thunder Wave user in the game. It can't do anything else other than that, but hey, getting a nearly-guarantied paralysis on Mewtwo on his Versus match is still pretty valuable at least.
yeah I always beat Mewtwo as a kid by paralyzing it with Electrode and then spamming OHKO moves. which only work if you're faster. and Mewtwo can't use Rest if you just leave it at full HP.
I never knew about the Hyper Beam reset being removed from Stadium until very recently, which is crazy because it's such a significant move in RBY. However, the fact you don't take recoil damage on knockout is something I NEVER knew until now.
It's a change I personally kinda hate but works just fine in rentals cause like 3 ok-ish mons get it so it's all good
@@BigYellowSilly I'm surprised you were less celebratory about Slowbro being ass considering how much you hate it.
I learned about it the hard way :(
was playing the poke cup, when I used hyper beam to finish off a pokemon, I ended up getting stalled for a turn oof
With how… unique many of Pokémon Stadium’s rental movesets are, this should be interesting… or at the very least, really goofy.
it's both lol
I remember fuking destroying enemy dragonites with female nidoran and blizzard while dragonite keep missing slam
Holy hell the animations in this game are still fire. Also haunter is HUGE
Snorlax lumbering up to do a goddamn DROPKICK for Mega Kick rules
thats the haunt man's real size. gengar is 5 feet tall. there's a fair number of adults shorter than gengar. let that sink in
Puts modern Pokemon animations to shame.
Haunter is like 5'11
@@frozenfeet4534Got nothing on Black Fog.
This right here is the peak of the entire franchise
It's the only meta where Diglett can do a full team sweep
goated
Diglett sealed the deal on Arena Trap getting banned in later Generations.
“You don’t want to run bide on Tauros?”
Bold of you to assume I wasn’t already
RBY: 1/256
Stadium & Protect: i have no weaknesse- "I didnt modify the _protect_ odds, you just hit the 1 in 65k"
Not even a minute in and that gag of the mom saying "that Tauros better not be running Stomp young man" just absolutely destroyed me
As a big Funny Rat fan, im glad my boy can do something in this format. I'm so proud of him.
I find it so interesting how they attempted to balance every single pokemon in the game via DVs and movepools. Giving early stage evos better movesets than the full evos and slightly bringing their stat totals closer together.
I just love the way you edit your videos, but if there’s one thing I’ve noticed about the way you construct your videos, it is that you somehow always manage to find the most nostalgia-enhancing music ever. Crash Bash was everything to me as a child and hearing that music for the first time in nearly a decade was great.
Paras having a funny little niche is EXACTLY the kind of weird goofy bullshit that I love about these obscure metas.
It's almost inspiring, really. If Paras can make something work in a silly way, surely I can make it work too.
Its funny how often they got things right for some of the unevolved mons movesets. Abra and slowpoke both having exactly what they need, for example
Due to the fact that the AI almost never switches, I actually didn't know that partial trapping was nerfed in Stadium. Still curious what sort of speed tier they gave Rapidash because there is definitely enough Thunder Wave floating around to have a bit of fun with Fire Spin
They (almost) always switch of you use a partial trapping move
Articuno's sub+ sky attack reminds me of Gen3 sub+ focus punch. Imo Articuno has some nice potential with that
its just breloom on ice!
I remember playing Stadium as a kid who didn't understand that special moves didn't use the attack stat, and think Rhydon was amazing because Surf was a sick move in casual RBY (I also didnt know about stab lol)
The Pokemon that is 4x weak to Water being able to learn Surf will never not be funny to me.
@@glitchedoom I always love that passage in a Fire Red Leaf Green hack where Blaine ask you if Rhydon can learn Surf and laugh at you if you answer yes ... until he find out that's the correct answer and plunge into disbelief.
the arrangement of substitute users at 4:49 goes hard
Any metagame with Paras is an automatically amazing one. Great watch!
A couple of years ago during a “party”, some friends dusted off their Pokemon Stadium cartridge, and we played this exact metagame. We were choosing teams on the fly, and the winner had to change his team every time.
Well, I wasn’t aware I was so deep into this metagame during my childhood, until I swept my adult friends so hard. I haven’t even thought about that game in almost two decades!
This video is for me! ❤
This might be one of my favorite youtube channels. There are no flaws in each video. Perfect length, great quality, great audio, great pacing, and he covers topics no one else talks about in astounding detail. Coincidentially, things I am interested in. I can't even hate on the upload times because the videos are just SO GOOD! I also don't know how difficult it is to put out this content so I can't have a true opinion on that anyways.
This was great! I didn't have a way to transfer my gameboy Pokemon over to my N64, so I could only play with rental Pokemon. Seeing the differences between rentals and OU now that I'm not 7 and know what a good Pokemon moveset looks like was interesting, as well as finding out which Pokemon are some of the best in the format.
Though I have to say, I'm pained that you mentioned Kabutops by name in a video about stadium rentals without drawing any attention to the fact that he gets Mega Kick in rentals and performs it in the most over the top way possible.
I had no idea there was a Pokémon battle mode in this mini game collection!
I laughed at the “what are you scared?” At the Tauros bide part way harder than I thought I was. Yellow is the joke delivery beast
That slow sleep from Paras is funny and reminds me of the new Toedscruel in Gen 9. It has the same stats as Tentacruel but is a grass/ground type with Spore. Gamefreak obviously looked at this and realised a 100 base speed spore user sounded terrifying so they intentionally gave it a new ability that makes all it's non damaging moved have -1 priority and go last but with the upside of being able to ignore other Pokémon abilities that would otherwise be immune to the status (basically to counter the new Gholdengo and Garganacl). Because it always goes last using spore it's gauranteed at least 1 free sleep turn
Also, on a note unrelated to the video but just occurred to me after hearing "Cloyster" and "Exeggutor" in the same sentence,
R[G]BY has basically always had a sort of alternative Fire/Grass/Water trio when it comes to things like Blue's Champion team or the unused Oak team; a trio of Arcanine, Exeggutor, and Gyarados, with one of them being swapped out by the starter of the respective type as needed
But I'm only now realizing that Gyarados is a bit of a weird pick for the Water filler, considering Arcanine and Exeggutor both require their respective evolution stones while Gyarados is a level evolution
I dunno, I guess now that I'm actually thinking about it, I feel like Cloyster would've been a more "fitting" Water filler over Gyarados
Have had Stadium since 2000 and have never been able to beat everything so I'm ready TO LEARN. The rental random runs on Twitch have been a blast to watch.
For cups or leader castle: Jynx Dugtrio and Jolteon
@@canaldecasta I've beaten R1, but not R2. R2 is where the game actually gets hard.
@@Nephritesword My team was those three + Hitmonlee, Victreebell andFlareon for the most part of R2 and Mewtwo.
the sprite edits make me laugh way too much , im just "hehe funny chansey face" please don't ever stop with those
I had forgotten just how clean the original Sugimori artwork was.
Paras being legitimately usable is really funny
Thank you for analyzing how funny certain Pokémon are, that’s a really important and overlooked aspect of Pokémon
I barely play RBY (more of an ADV/VGC kinda guy right now), but the capacity you have to suck me in and make me want to hear about all the little nuances of this tiny sub-metagame is incredible. I expressed audible shock and disbelief when you got to the crit mechanics
Waking up to May’s edition of “niche RBY metas and how they’re some genuinely cool stuff” is the best thing that has happened to me today
I feel like gengar would definitely wear a shirt with a picture of his face on it
I unironically like the idea of more pokemon formats where people are more restricted, but in interesting ways. Stadium 1 without RBY carts was actually one of my favorite things, ESPECIALLY the random battles; because as you mention, make do with what you have.
I think thats a real challenge of someones understanding of the game! It's neat. :3
Love the video :3
I also wanted to share my love for rental Rhyhorn, which I prefer over graveler, and I wish was talked more. Their bulk are pretty similar and yes, the 10 less speed, atk, and lack of selfdestruct hurts Rhyhorn when comparing the two, his access to Rock Slide is really what makes him my favorite of the two.
His MU becomes positive against Zapdos and Aerodactyl and, most importantly, the opponent cannot easily switch in a flying type such as Articuno or Moltres to avoid an earthquake in fear of the Rock Slide read. All of this without losing a MU that Graveler would win, but losing the ability to remove a treat with selfdestruct really puts the two on that grey zone of who's the best.
Overall really happy to see my favorite game's metagame being covered and I can't wait to test out Paras :D
I find it funny that Articuno and Zapdos both have Sky Attack (which neither learns naturally), but Moltres (who does learn Sky Attack naturally), doesn't get it in Stadium.
holy shint yellow that jazz jackrabbit music at the start unlocked a deep memory in me
Wow! Pokemon Stadium was my first game ever, and being born in 2001 meant that the original Gameboy + games were basically unobtainable for a lad as young and broke as myself. Seeing this video brings back sooooo many memories of being cheesed the fuck out by those stupid fucking gamblers and super nerds!
Love the video as usual
Might I add that the tournament format and strict rules the game operated under, and even the limited "team builder" are probably the reason my enjoyment of Pokemon has always been more competitively focused than gameplay oriented. Pokemon Showdown/Smogon for life!
The Gameboy games were "unattainable" back in 2001? I could've sworn that they literally didn't stop production of RBY til at least 2003 or 2004. Shouldnt have been that hard to find.
Nowadays they're quite expensive though
@@DUKEHadToDoItToEm right but in 2003 this person was 2 years old lol. How would they have acquired it?
God, don’t even get me started on rental sets in Stadium. Massive shout out to Stadium 2’s Machamp rental.
Machamp has like one thing going for it in GSC, and that’s a terrifying Cross Chop. Rental Machamp gets Submission.
Need I say more?
Charizard gets Fire Punch, too, which is definitely a downgrade from Stadium's Fire Blast.
Stadium 2's move sets are... Interesting, to say the least. 😅
Coming back to this video again and this is honestly one of my favorite videos on this site period
i admire your ability to just talk about something that you OBVUOUSLY care about. its super fun to watch and i love your editing
There's something both funny and neat about both members of the Meowth line being among the best in two different side-metagames [even if 7U is a bit more on the "imaginary" side]
The Tauros Doesn't Run Earthquake edit is probably my favorite joke you've done so far it's really good
I hope that the next Pokemon game can have a world and story like S/V, with battle animations like Stadium. That would be a truly glorious game.
No way, me and my boyfriend played this on NSO, I’m totally using your advice to pwn him, thanks (:
This video is fantastic dear, thank you. As a poor kid non-us and everything considered buying stuff was out of my reach so when I played pokemon stadium i had no way to train my own pokemons, i went through the game with rentals only in all cups. It was harsh to say the least, specially as a kid who didn't know much english -I always remember a lvl 15 tentacruel in one of the little cups being super fast, strong, having thunderbolt, nightmarish
"raticate has the potential to be very rewarding and, more importantly, very funny" please keep doing this, i love your content! it satisfies a spot in my brain that no other youtuber does :)
I played ALOT of of pokemon stadium rentals as a kid or teen. Story time my local video game store would host tournaments of pokemon stadium rentals. I want a couple of the tournaments back in the day and usually got top 4 if I didn't.
I love seeing the resurgent in this format now that it's been many moons since those tournaments at game over video games.
The only two Pokemon on my regular team you did not cover is Dragonair which is a good honest special beat stick and more importantly dewgong.
Which functions as a pretty fantastic stall Pokemon and check to pokemon that give my main Jolteon a hard time. With rest, Aurora beam, surf and headbutt.
If you don't have a super effective move your likely to not be able to knock it out before it wakes up from rest.
My winning team if I recall right was: Abra, Jolteon, dewdoug, dragonair, Jynx, and Gengar.
This video was a blast from the past and a delight to watch.
If they ever go back to hosting tournaments in the year 2023. Then I might play around with adding Persian. Never thought about that mon.
Really big fan of some of the sight gags here, like Starmie going shopping at the big physical attack clearance sale. I liked seeing all the old sprites and classic Sugimori illustrations, too. It was very fun to learn about this crazy, limited metagame. Thanks for the great video!
I love simplified metagames like these, and stadium is one my favorite pokemon games of all time. It's all about battling, the best part of the series! (and minigames)
I know this video stressed you out in production, but I will say that you absolutely killed it, and I find myself coming back here alot 💖✨️💖
I feel like Metronome is buffed in Stadium. It rolls super effective damaging moves way more than should be probable.
I enjoyed the video, I hope you do one when Stadium 2 drops on NSO!
The way I was just playing this with a friend and said "Big yellow should make a video about this meta"
As somebody who grew up with his first Pokemon game being Stadium 2, I'd love to see a similar video on it at some point!
I have never felt so attacked and insignificant in my life until Big Yellow called me out for not wanting to use a Bide Tauros 😔
RBY and Stadium show that „its not a bug, its a feature“ can be very true sometimes
This overall was incredibly fascinating. I usually put your videos on when I am just casually playing Pokemon myself anyway, but this one was absorbing, I didn't realize I knew so little about a game I've casually played since 2000. I think I kinda just assumed it worked the same as RBY and just never payed attention when Double Edge or whatever didn't act the same. Great vid.
I have to say I LOVE your content. Over the last nine days, I have listened this video four or five times already while just doing busywork or playing videogames. I know what to expect but I am always entertained!!
Please do a rental metagame video for Stadium 2. This was a great topic for an in-depth video and now Stadium 2 needs the same attention.
I saw the title and immediately thought of Skull Bash Alakazam from one of the poke cups😂
Also, I never saw this channel intersecting timewise with the Ray Narvaez extended universe
very enamored by chansey sprite with little glasses... looks great on her
Someone understands the investment I’ve done in rentals multiplayer. Actually had multiple small tournaments last summer and various small battles. It taught me a lot about what Pokémon rule in free for all. Still figuring out what’s good in stadium 2.
the best part of the stadium meta is definitely the announcer. they should just add that guy's voice clips to showdown they make my day
In this short form tik tok based world, im glad there are people still making big ass videos, thank you big yellow, keep it up you lovely individual
That Jynx Mega Kick animation was worth it alone to watch this
I had no idea that stadium was gonna have online play. So happy I clicked this video! Always wanted to play stadium online
Starmie shopping clearance moves while RoA music plays on the overhead is such a great image/scene. XD
I lost your channel for a second but I’m glad I found you again. Entertaining, informative, and actually what I want in terms of content.
Thank you
can not describe how hype this five word video title made me feel.
I never knew I wanted this content, from this creator, THIS BADLY.
This makes me wish there was a community effort to make wacky rental styled formats for newer games
Me and another r/Stunfisk user had the idea of Dynamax Adventures Rentals. Not particularly well balanced though with Speed Boost Close Combat Blaziken vs Physical Politoed (Not even the preferred Rain Setter in the format since Pelipper with Weather Ball exists)
as a kid, i didn't even know it was possible to transfer your own pokemon into Stadium, and i only used rentals. i literally had no idea they were bad!
Amazing video mate, it was very interesting to watch ,thanks.
Edit: stadium 2 when? I remember they gave charizard fire punch with swords dance in a gen without physical/special split..😐
I've been binging many of your older videos over the last couple days - they're very rewatchable thanks to your humor! Very happy to see new stuff from you.
I'd say the move that stands out the most on snorlax is metronome, because metronome is funny.
Also I would like to say I recently started watching your pokemon content and I love both your content and your look. You have encouraged me to put on nail polish again and I'm thinking of restyling myself to look more androgynous, so, thankyou :)
40+ minute video from my homie that is neither Big nor Yellow for my birthday? It's official year has been made
"this dig is fucked up bruh" made me laugh so hard i had to pause the video. fantastic, thank you
The idea for this video is genius, I grinded the gyms with a friend a few years back and had to struggle with this
Wait... Dig is allowed in an RBY meta?!?! FINALLY!! That one person who wanted to use their ingame team is validated!! ...Oh, right. Rentals only. Good luck next time, I guess.
I felt my heart lurch when I saw that NetBattle setup wizard at the beginning, good god
i love that they had the hindsight to debug so much for stadium but still didn't fix the ghost/psychic immunity
Yay, another Stadium video on YT by one of my favourite creators! Love the shoutout to PvK too 😍Nonetheless I was kind of disappointed by the fact you only covered the Rentals following a more "traditional" RBY OU's setting instead of focusing into the actual Stadium only Cups. I assume that there is the perception that the majority of your audience has had some kind of Smogon competitive background prior to watching this video, but for all the casual users that might enjoy a more accesible meta like Stadium Rentals then a more generalistic approach would have been a more enjoyable introduction to the meta. Aside from that, I got really fascinated by your final thoughts regarding the potential for this kind of meta to be "completly solved" in the short term because of its pretty "fixed" nature, and that's why the "bring 6, pick 3" format gives it it's unique charm! Sure, you have access to ALL the relevant information regarding both your and your opponent's team, but if you are forced to choose a team composition before every battle then the meta gets a little more dynamic and unpredictable (barring hax of course 😋). I guess that the "standard" 6v6 Rentals could eventually evolve into "glorified chess", while the original "bring 6, pick 3" one could turn into a "retro VGC" game, just like in the good'ol days of hardware tournaments. Finally, shoutouts to KAZAMISH, the infamous Lv. 20 R2 Pika Cup Alakazam! (Would love to know your take on Pika Cup someday!). Best regards and thanks a lot for 00:30 🥰