Yes. I also believe that the current outbreak of legal and regulatory obstacles being thrown in front of SpaceX have a lot lot more behind them than merely worries about marine bird habitats or amphibian nesting grounds.
NASA wants Space X to succeed, otherwise they wouldn't give them so many contracts, likewise the military. The FAA just follows the laws Congress makes, and of course the Congress is controlled by the gop now. Congress could make Space Xs problems go away in a week by changing the laws. But a lot of Republicans own stock in ULA and Boeing.
@@joeker1013well they don't have much choice they got stuff that needs to go up and the other guys just aren't launching, not to mention very expensive
Don’t forget Boeing! They will bend over backwards to certify Starliner but hamstring SpaceX anyway they can and this nonsense with MSNBC is a perfect example.
Unbelievable!! IT'S amazing that people think they can continue to screw with SpaceX with no reprocessing. What happens when SpaceX packs up and moves to a country with little or no restrictions? We loise!
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Cool that they are recovering components. I have no inside information but it looks like the the side and bottom of the engine ring were melting after a rapid unscheduled disassembly of an outer engine or two. I never saw any footage after the landing when the booster started to fall over. Maybe the booster exploded when it hit the ocean. Has anyone seen it hit the water? Obviously, once it started sinking it would fall bottom first pretty fast because of the heavy engines and hit the ocean floor hard causing tons of damage as shown by all the mud caked up and bent engine bells. Another possiblility is it sank for a while and a tank inside blew apart from the pressure. Lastly, I could picture it laying on it's side at the bottom mostly intact but fell apart during recovery due to all the extra water weight. I sure hope they tell us what happened!!!
B11 recovery is likely little more than an ITAR requirement. A lot of the Gulf of Mexico is pretty shallow. The manifest you showed indicates they used divers in the recovery. If B11 was in shallow enough water it was accessible by divers it's likely leaving it there would violate ITAR. So the recovery was likely more about securing sensitive technology than it was about finding out what happened.
11 - Yes, just as with commercial jet operations, wreckage from crashes (or planned rapid disassembly) must be studied. This is vastly different from the fire, crash, forget of the past.
Yeah, there's plenty of human haters out there that will fawn all over that company. Hopefully the case doesn't get an activist judge and this gets settled quickly.
The FAA just opened up a new mishap investigation on why SpaceX took so long to recover Booster 4 from the bottom of the ocean and what to why it was not fully intact, fines to follow.
@tomhoskins4913 Has there been an investigation into debacle of Artemis -10 years past due, issue after issue, capsules are junk and it costs $4 BILLION TO LAUNCH ONE OF THE 1980 TECHNOLOGY MACHINES. AND THERE NEVER WILL BE.
@@bruceatkinson5357 Or Orion. if thrusters misfiring on a manned mission does not trigger a mishap investigation but a Falcon Booster not sticking 1 landing out of 350 does, then their is corruption at he highest levels at the FAA.
11! Also: Cards Against Humanity, you are dead to me. Will never spend another dime on any of your products. We're done. "A party game for horrible people" could only be contrived by horrible people.
This image looks like the booster struck the bottom of the ocean and that caused all of the damage that is visible here. You can see the sand in the engine nozzles.
Flight termination system engaged. That’s why they end the video as it touches the water. If they didn’t, then the booster would have stayed floating and China or someone else could have recovered it.
@@rogerphelps9939 yes it did land in a pre determined area, but space x can’t risk their technology getting into foreign hands so they are required to sink it. All the other boosters were also going to be sunk if they didn’t come apart on their own.
@@daveyshmavey They had no requirement to do anything of the sort. The landing was in an exclusion zone. Are you so naive as to believe tthat the US authorities and SpaceXdid not know the identity of all of the ships within 100 miles? You sound like some sort of conspiracy theorist.
It is no coincidence that they give it a date for after the Presidential Elections. Given the link between Musk and Trump, any success for Musk is a blow for KA-Mala
@@freonpeon472 Thanks for the correction (you don't need to apologize, it's always good to learn something) although it was a play on words taking advantage of the Spanish meaning of the word "mala", which means "evil".
about this latest lawsuit against spaceX, it reminds me of an old case, lost in time. around 1500 BC (yes, it was that long ago), the "King of Kings and Emperor of the Hittites" (a great empire in present-day Turkey) announced to his Egyptian "counterpart"; namely Pharaoh Ramesses II the Great (himself); that he was disturbed by the noise, more than excessive, that the hippos were making in the Nile!!! So much so that he could no longer sleep in his palace, in his capital ~2600 km away. . . . The "King of Kings and Emperor Hittites" would have demanded, obviously, financial compensation for his lost sleep!!!! which shows that financial demands, a little bit execive, and for reasons ......, are as old as the world
I hope recovered starships and boosters are examined, and then used in some cool way….like portioned for mementos, maybe small kitchen knives. How cool..that steel blasted into space, and back again. Imagine a set from every booster and starship that is recovered. Soon they will all be launching and landing safely, and intact. The parts from RUDs are interesting, and part of history. Better than a t shirt.
an empty booster stage is filled with helium ( backfilling gas used to avoid crupmling ) and knowing the mass and volume of the booster, it is probably lighter than water at impact, so i think significant damage was caused at water impact, enough to rupture the tanks and allow water in, mabe thats what they are studying, but i get that impact with the sea floor also caused probable damage to sensitive equipment ( ie engine bells )
Spacex are tight with the info with the booster so FAA doesn’t put on more breaks and delays, so they can understand how it all works and more excuses.
The engine section looks like it sunk pretty much upright, gravity and degradation over 3 months damaging that section. It's not a submarine so the fact it held up under pressure as well as it did goes to show it's a solid piece of equipment. I don't believe (personally) that any of that damage was because of reentry nor splashdown, rather hitting the seafloor and spending months there Edit: emphasis on "pretty much upright". A degree or 2 off and that along with anything that stops the seafloor from being flat would cause damage and to tip over. Even currents can do that too so I'm damn impressed by what they pulled out
The Democrats? How so? Why suggest conspiratal myths without evidence? It doesn't help improve the process, it just gets people angry when it's likely baseless. The FAA are holding up issuing a license for flight 5 because SpaceX didn't apply for one until only a few weeks ago and a new license was necessary because SpaceX made major changes to the flight plan for flight 5 making the previous issued licenses invalid. But they don't tell you that when they make their claims that the govt is intentionally putting obstacles in Elon's way...
@@johnhawkins2105 No it's because the Democrats have their fingers in every agency in America and are attacking Elon because he endorsed MAGA and is promoting free speech
@@colonbina1it was reported that it landed on the water than fell sideways. At the same time the catch arms on launch tower went into catch mode. They sunk it.
11! As SpaceX stands poised to make humanity multiplanetary, an accomplishment sure to extend and strengthen biodiversity in the long term, who stands against them? "Cards against Humanity". Ah, the irony... You can't make this stuff up! YES!
Why didn't SpaceX plan on a recovery of flight 4 hardware right after it got back to earth? If there are forces on the engine bay that's causing a problem, it may be too early to risk a mechazilla landing.
Learning from failure is progress, space X proved and developed this concept.
Yes, this is how they can be successful with Falcon
Yes. I also believe that the current outbreak of legal and regulatory obstacles being thrown in front of SpaceX have a lot lot more behind them than merely worries about marine bird habitats or amphibian nesting grounds.
Great perspective shot of the 2 crew zodiac and the upper stage (which looks like the Red October submarine).
I never thought that I would live long enough to see what SpaceX is doing. 😮
Yeah, I hope you will always be healthy to accompany and see them achieve new feats
hmm metal with high heat, then cooling down fast in ocean, causes the metal to shrink rapidly, usually. Look up old blacksmithing guides
11 I have said it before and will say it again, both FAA and NASA will protect ULA ! This is there baby and they will protect ULA!
NASA wants Space X to succeed, otherwise they wouldn't give them so many contracts, likewise the military. The FAA just follows the laws Congress makes, and of course the Congress is controlled by the gop now. Congress could make Space Xs problems go away in a week by changing the laws. But a lot of Republicans own stock in ULA and Boeing.
@@joeker1013well they don't have much choice they got stuff that needs to go up and the other guys just aren't launching, not to mention very expensive
@@Vinlaell That is my point. Everybody wants their money to go farther. You always want the people saving you money to succeed.
Don’t forget Boeing! They will bend over backwards to certify Starliner but hamstring SpaceX anyway they can and this nonsense with MSNBC is a perfect example.
@@Andi845 union
Unbelievable!! IT'S amazing that people think they can continue to screw with SpaceX with no reprocessing. What happens when SpaceX packs up and moves to a country with little or no restrictions? We loise!
Great unexpected SpaceX! Unbelievable Booster came back. Incredible Inspirations
Yeah, that is very important
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If I was SpaceX, I would drop the next Booster on top of the FAA and say "oops, we miss"!
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Which would get Space X shut down for at least 6 years.
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Elon with his kid hanging off his side is priceless. Getting behind this company and program is so easy ❤
Very good video, TY for including the Chinese rocket test as well.
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Cool that they are recovering components. I have no inside information but it looks like the the side and bottom of the engine ring were melting after a rapid unscheduled disassembly of an outer engine or two. I never saw any footage after the landing when the booster started to fall over. Maybe the booster exploded when it hit the ocean. Has anyone seen it hit the water? Obviously, once it started sinking it would fall bottom first pretty fast because of the heavy engines and hit the ocean floor hard causing tons of damage as shown by all the mud caked up and bent engine bells. Another possiblility is it sank for a while and a tank inside blew apart from the pressure. Lastly, I could picture it laying on it's side at the bottom mostly intact but fell apart during recovery due to all the extra water weight. I sure hope they tell us what happened!!!
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B11 recovery is likely little more than an ITAR requirement. A lot of the Gulf of Mexico is pretty shallow. The manifest you showed indicates they used divers in the recovery. If B11 was in shallow enough water it was accessible by divers it's likely leaving it there would violate ITAR. So the recovery was likely more about securing sensitive technology than it was about finding out what happened.
11 - Yes, just as with commercial jet operations, wreckage from crashes (or planned rapid disassembly) must be studied. This is vastly different from the fire, crash, forget of the past.
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its still nice of China to share the there progress😊
11. Thanks for all the efforts.
Vertical landing rockets.. China is "Copy Cat" but Blue Origin's New Shepard is not ? haha
New Shepard was first but they are still stuck repeating the same trick 9 years later. No obital class rocket. Doesn't make sense to me...
Anyone can tell that the bells on the engins were damaged hitting the gulf sea floor. More than likely that is why the other engines are missing.
11 , YES
11! Saw you take off, wish I'd been there to see ya come home!
11 there you go...and YES
It's called a Cash Grab. Any excuse to sue Space X to make a buck. Not to mention free advertising.
Yeah, there's plenty of human haters out there that will fawn all over that company. Hopefully the case doesn't get an activist judge and this gets settled quickly.
Welcome back 11
11!
Great work getting the pictures
11! Welcome Back. Also YES
Hot engines, cold water, equals deformation.
Exactly
11! YES! Back in 1984, I worked for a Japanese company and their idea of R&R looks to be the same as China's "research and duplicate"!
3:42 I think that the engine bells are deformed because of how it impacted the ocean floor
The FAA just opened up a new mishap investigation on why SpaceX took so long to recover Booster 4 from the bottom of the ocean and what to why it was not fully intact, fines to follow.
@tomhoskins4913 Has there been an investigation into debacle of Artemis -10 years past due, issue after issue, capsules are junk and it costs $4 BILLION TO LAUNCH ONE OF THE 1980 TECHNOLOGY MACHINES. AND THERE NEVER WILL BE.
@@tomhoskins4913 FAA Sounds like a nagging wife you want to divorce!
@@bruceatkinson5357 Or Orion. if thrusters misfiring on a manned mission does not trigger a mishap investigation but a Falcon Booster not sticking 1 landing out of 350 does, then their is corruption at he highest levels at the FAA.
11!
Also: Cards Against Humanity, you are dead to me. Will never spend another dime on any of your products. We're done.
"A party game for horrible people" could only be contrived by horrible people.
Well, tbh they did state they weren't for humanity.
So if space x tore up your property you'd be okay with it?
Funny I didn't know that SpaceX destroyed any property but it own.
@@billhenchen3392 It said in the video that was what the lawsuit was about.
The ocean floor might have something to do with damage we see.
Yes go spacex
Well going from extremely hot to being quenched instantly in water can deform metal.
11, and very much yes. SpaceX is the only chance the US has of being a player in space for the rest of the century.
This image looks like the booster struck the bottom of the ocean and that caused all of the damage that is visible here. You can see the sand in the engine nozzles.
Card Against Humanity is truly against humanity....
YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets encourage ALL other space systems dev companies we should all share the goal of making humanity a multi planetary species
How bout hello.
Thanks for the updates. 😊
11! YES
yes!
Okey
The FAA needs to be totally retooled. All their outdated old regulations need to be canned and 1/2 of their personal fired!
I agree. There’s far to many “TOOLS” working there now.
Just half?
@@JamesStripling 😂🤣 I was being optimistic!
All true but these new regulations that ground them for any little thing just came out a couple of years ago. B!den strikes again...
Great video, Kevin.
My honor , thanks
FAA will be fining Elon Musk for inadvertently removing a future reef from the ocean.
On orders of the White House. Next launch is AFTER the Nov. 5th election and the bureaucracy knows who their masters will be.
@@briantetreault1875 😜
😂 you know it 😂
can't wait until used starships for sale are common
YES
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YES
Yeah
Excellent video
Yes 11!
Flight termination system engaged. That’s why they end the video as it touches the water. If they didn’t, then the booster would have stayed floating and China or someone else could have recovered it.
Nonsense. It landed in a predetermined target area and if it was floating SpaceX could have had a ship standing by to pick it up very rapidly.
@@rogerphelps9939 yes it did land in a pre determined area, but space x can’t risk their technology getting into foreign hands so they are required to sink it. All the other boosters were also going to be sunk if they didn’t come apart on their own.
@@daveyshmavey They had no requirement to do anything of the sort. The landing was in an exclusion zone. Are you so naive as to believe tthat the US authorities and SpaceXdid not know the identity of all of the ships within 100 miles? You sound like some sort of conspiracy theorist.
Yes
It is no coincidence that they give it a date for after the Presidential Elections. Given the link between Musk and Trump, any success for Musk is a blow for KA-Mala
Not trying to be pedantic but feel I must correct your spelling in the interest of factual truth.
Her name is spelled Kommie-la.
@@freonpeon472 Thanks for the correction (you don't need to apologize, it's always good to learn something) although it was a play on words taking advantage of the Spanish meaning of the word "mala", which means "evil".
Not really.
Elon browser like you two tds cultists are a bore. Also utter tools.
about this latest lawsuit against spaceX, it reminds me of an old case, lost in time.
around 1500 BC (yes, it was that long ago), the "King of Kings and Emperor of the Hittites" (a great empire in present-day Turkey) announced to his Egyptian "counterpart"; namely Pharaoh Ramesses II the Great (himself); that he was disturbed by the noise, more than excessive, that the hippos were making in the Nile!!!
So much so that he could no longer sleep in his palace, in his capital ~2600 km away. . . .
The "King of Kings and Emperor Hittites" would have demanded, obviously, financial compensation for his lost sleep!!!!
which shows that financial demands, a little bit execive, and for reasons ......, are as old as the world
Great comment 👍
11! Yes!
Cards against humanity, against humanity 😂
Bro, I’m not a rocket scientist but what happens when you suddenly douse a peace of hot steel into cold water lol?
11!
I wondered if and when we would see 11 and 29. I wonder if they could have landed them in a shallow area of the ocean.
Yeah
I hope recovered starships and boosters are examined, and then used in some cool way….like portioned for mementos, maybe small kitchen knives. How cool..that steel blasted into space, and back again. Imagine a set from every booster and starship that is recovered. Soon they will all be launching and landing safely, and intact. The parts from RUDs are interesting, and part of history. Better than a t shirt.
Me too
How does a channel titled GREAT SPACEX get so much information wrong?
YES!
Damage is from IMPACT with the SEA FLOOR nimrod... Acceleration of gravity doesn't stop at the sea surface.
an empty booster stage is filled with helium ( backfilling gas used to avoid crupmling ) and knowing the mass and volume of the booster, it is probably lighter than water at impact, so i think significant damage was caused at water impact, enough to rupture the tanks and allow water in, mabe thats what they are studying, but i get that impact with the sea floor also caused probable damage to sensitive equipment ( ie engine bells )
Yes Yes Yes Yes
Spacex are tight with the info with the booster so FAA doesn’t put on more breaks and delays, so they can understand how it all works and more excuses.
11! Yes.
11
YES
0:16
Exec."Do you think the damage will buff out?"
Engineer "errr....nope."
11! Go Rocky Jones.
Thank you for your hilarious dangling modifier at 0:06
11 Yes
The engine section looks like it sunk pretty much upright, gravity and degradation over 3 months damaging that section. It's not a submarine so the fact it held up under pressure as well as it did goes to show it's a solid piece of equipment. I don't believe (personally) that any of that damage was because of reentry nor splashdown, rather hitting the seafloor and spending months there
Edit: emphasis on "pretty much upright". A degree or 2 off and that along with anything that stops the seafloor from being flat would cause damage and to tip over. Even currents can do that too so I'm damn impressed by what they pulled out
11 and YES
Politics. The democrats are playing hardball with Elon because he won't bow to them. YES
The Democrats? How so? Why suggest conspiratal myths without evidence? It doesn't help improve the process, it just gets people angry when it's likely baseless. The FAA are holding up issuing a license for flight 5 because SpaceX didn't apply for one until only a few weeks ago and a new license was necessary because SpaceX made major changes to the flight plan for flight 5 making the previous issued licenses invalid. But they don't tell you that when they make their claims that the govt is intentionally putting obstacles in Elon's way...
@@johnhawkins2105 No it's because the Democrats have their fingers in every agency in America and are attacking Elon because he endorsed MAGA and is promoting free speech
Damage to the booster is from impacting to the bottom of the ocean
So it didn’t explode, right?
@@colonbina1it was reported that it landed on the water than fell sideways.
At the same time the catch arms on launch tower went into catch mode.
They sunk it.
Concerning the problem of CO2 and H2O ice in Boosters
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11🚀
"Deep Blue" looks more like a copy of "Blue Origin" which is a copy of SpaceX...
Thank you to let me watch the video🎉🎉🎉.
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11 🚀
11!
YES!!
Noticing right? Truth.
11 and Yes, ask the FAA if they know what the letters F.O. Mean?
Yah
YESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes.
HOPEFULLY, CHINA WILL NOT RECOVER ANY OF THIS HARDWARE !!!!!!!!!!!!
that was my biggest concern for them landing in the middle of the ocean too, it would advance their program significantly
Of course there is!
11! As SpaceX stands poised to make humanity multiplanetary, an accomplishment sure to extend and strengthen biodiversity in the long term, who stands against them? "Cards against Humanity". Ah, the irony... You can't make this stuff up! YES!
Yesss.....
Yesss
FAA personnel giving hard time to space X...
That way
CHINESE COMPANIES
rise up
23-09-2024.
11, Yes, did you see the slit inside the rockets motors. Good idea about the museum donation.latter.😊
11! 🎉🎉
Yes, go get them
Yeah
"YES"
Why didn't SpaceX plan on a recovery of flight 4 hardware right after it got back to earth? If there are forces on the engine bay that's causing a problem, it may be too early to risk a mechazilla landing.
The FAA is terrified of large rockets
Just settle that land issue in a friendly manner..
Hell yes
Okey
11!
likely deformed because the booster is heavy ASF and it hit the ocean floor hard.