I really want refines to not only have unique icons back, but just have wacky stuff that reflects the character regardless if it's meta-breaking or not, that's what the game is missing to be honest like look at Quan weapon good against everything except flyers. I need shit like that.
@@gamemasterxtreme I dont think FEH is PvP focused at all. People keep making it as a pvp focused but its clear that FEH is ultimately all about appealing to people that just want to make strong units with big numbers and fanservice. thats why balance is so crazy.
@@LazyRittz i find it hard to believe when IS just released a counter to pre damage combat, something players have complained about since the top meta threats like VLyon have used
Not all that gimmicky, but Legenday Lyn had a pretty strange kit on launch. She had a somewhat offensive statline, but her weapon granted +3 Res and heavily relied on being close to allies. Her A skill only triggered on enemy phase, but she also had Desperation 3 for player phase. Like they had no idea what they wanted to do with her.
Leila and Lucia are worth mentioning here, I think. Leila is still the only unit in the game with the built-in after-combat swap with her support partner (didn't even get it on her Thief alt), while Lucia hasn't shared her Special proc denial with anyone so far.
Also, I don't know if anyones mentioned it, but the fact that they randomly dropped canto control on mikotos refine is so tragic. She was finally maybe useable..and then medeus happened lol
Because of the effects of Kempf’s weapon, I have a bit of a weird set-up on him: the usual Savage Blow and Poison Strike (the latter as an S seal), but his B-skill is WindSweep so he can actually survive against whoever he’s attacking. I know his best strength is the chip damage so I pretty much never rely on him for a knockout. Also I don’t know if she’s considered a gimmick, but I like Orochi’s weapon with the built-in Panic. Hopefully her refine comes in soon and gives guaranteed follow up, she’s a good green demote mage.
Oooh boi, I totally hope Halloween Xane gets a refine sometime soon. What kind of cool stuff could he get in there to make him relevant? "If Pestblem Ike is on enemy team, grants -win- to player" would be nice
Today I upgraded Thea to 5 stars, looked at her prf and got dumbfounded - grant bonuses based on number of dragonflowers given to a unit is the stupidest condition one could come up with. I eagerly await for a weapon that says "Grant bonuses based on amount of dollars you've spent on the game. If the currency you used is not dollars, calculate bonuses based on current exchange rate". That would at least be funny and in line with any damage calculations being impossible these days.
She's not the only unit with this gimmick, either. Farina, Malice, Hugh, and bride Anna all have it, too, and I was only willing to give the flowers to Anna because I like her.
@@Gracereza I don't have any of them, besides bride Anna, but she's a modern unit, so I didn't read the text. At least for the others, it kinda makes sense, since you recruit all of them (minus Anna) at least once using money, which is their main motivation, but why Thea?
@@tommynguyen5450 Sure, but she's a mercenary to provide for her people, money is just a means to an end for her. My point is - out of all mercenaries in FE you could pick to have that effect, Thea makes one of the least sense to have it. Shanna, Noah and Zelot are also Illian mercenaries, and they don't have anything like that. And yeah, for Anna it makes sense - certainly more than her working for free in all of her mainline appearances.
Maybe, but archetypes are usually used to denote that a selection of different characters fit into a similar mold. Like how we have Jeigans, Christmas Cavs, Ests, etc.
Now I want an Oliver alt whose perf would give him global spectrum saviour for those units. Any other effects to make him broken when saviour occurs as well. Best thing, you could use him with brave Soren to have a broken far save. And he doesn't need to be armour.
21:56 She’s designed to be a warp beacon. Share Spoils was just a nice bonus if you somehow couldn’t ORKO with today’s power level (for example, E!Ike)
Petrine went absolutely insane when fallen edelgard wrecked the meta on release since she was one of the easier units to build in order to counter her, i remember people building her specifically for that reason (since the only other beast effective unit was petra)
Nemesis' OG DCS would have fit here. %DR based on ally HP, got it once per phase and otherwise got just A/D +2 for each ally with the conditions. But now it's huge %DR once per phase and good %DR the rest of the time, A/S/D/R +3 per ally, with +4 to that if the condition was met at all, +4 for greater than 25% HP on himself, Special Fighter and post-combat healing. Still dies to anything with %DR shredding. Could have used guaranteed follow-up and follow-up denial too, but we can't have everything. Now to wait for him to get an alt, maybe his Dark Emblem.
21:36 I mean, he's supposed to be the royal guard for Tana (who's Rearmed was on the same banner), so it makes sense for him to have an effect that protects fliers.
Iago's weapon especially pre refine fit his personality perfectly. He sits in the back and makes his allies do all the fighting while using cheap tricks to mess with the opponents. But once you get pass all his dirty tactics he's a sniveling coward that kind of sucks in a fight. So you'll probably beat him easily.
Lapis’ condition is actually really strong IMO. The idea is that she’s a galeforce beacon, and so her kit is mostly built around being able to initiate once and survive, and also debuff and chip damage. There’s no guarantee she’d be able to get the first kill (which is always hard for beacons ever since near saves were a thing) and so if she fails to kill, you still have the same action economy. It’s basically a backup effect rather than something you intentionally want to trigger.
My pride and joy is my +10 fallen Muarim. A/S Finish 4, Special Spiral 4, TP4, Astra with Emblem Marth and support with Bridal Rafiel with Inf Pulse. If he's able to get his special off, he hits like a nuke. I just need some way to bypass effects like Lucia. You can make gimmicks work sometimes.
It may not be AS gimmicky as the ones listed here, but I feel like an honorable mention should be given to Limstella. Since to my knowledge, they're the only unit with the gimmick of damaging their own allies
Petrine was my golden ticket against Fallen Edelgard during her reign of terror. Only reason I made her +10. Thank God Fallen Edelgard isn't in true meta anymore (still annoying to see from time to time)
Not _that_ gimmicky but I like how original Loki's weapon gives a bunch of nerfs based on HP rather than Res or something. Whether it gives [Stall] or [Gravity] (as well as which stats it affects) is based on weapon range which is really weird. Obviously [Gravity] is better but [Stall] is still useful since there are so many units that give themselves extra movement for free, like Seliph and Bridal Sharena and certain Edelgards. For that I think she's the best-aged unit of her era, and definitely one of the better gimmicky ones.
So many of these GF support units would be better if they had a Fury effect or a Fury Status support. It's such a simple thing but IS refuses to give it away. I guess they want to keep GF a certain difficulty threshhold to sell units that make it easier (Edelgard, B!Sharena)
While I can say that your gimmick has some merits here and there, one thing I like to point out is the Subscribe Flaw here. Like, I get that you want viewers to stick around and watch your videos, heck even I stick around to watch your take on the meta of the day or some wacly topic such as this, but when your audience has so many RUclipsrs they subscribed to, their subscription feeds kind of gets cluttered and someday, they have to do a little "Spring Cleaning" here. And with RUclips loving you enough to recommend you to folks who haven't subscribe to you, your meta isn't exactly foolproof here. And other folks can talk too, especially to this 'Mike' fellow you brought up, so you're not really offering anything new to the table aside from a new joke or two every once in a while. And while your jokes work now, as with all units in the past run of Fire Emblem Heroes, it will fall out soon and become irrelevant without some major love and care put into it. And while it does have it's flaws, I can safely say that you're still doing rather well in the meta, shortcomings and all. And if you keep putting the love and care into your meta to help survive in the current, overwhelming meta nowadays, I see no reason to change it. _(This is all a joke, please don't send the newest meta unit of the day my way. I will never survive a single strike from them...! DX)_
Og Leo's refine though. Like wtf was that even supposed to be? What a nonsensical and useless gimmick that was. I have this man and refined his weapon but more for the memes than anything. To the point where it's a surprise when it actually does anything for him.
Video is good, but you took almost two minutes to even really start- thats a point where undecided people or those who are new to your channel or videos are prone to leave
I really want refines to not only have unique icons back, but just have wacky stuff that reflects the character regardless if it's meta-breaking or not, that's what the game is missing to be honest like look at Quan weapon good against everything except flyers. I need shit like that.
the problem is with a pvp focus game, those gimmicks end up not being good against the shit they give us cause that's just what works
@@gamemasterxtreme I dont think FEH is PvP focused at all. People keep making it as a pvp focused but its clear that FEH is ultimately all about appealing to people that just want to make strong units with big numbers and fanservice. thats why balance is so crazy.
@@LazyRittz i find it hard to believe when IS just released a counter to pre damage combat, something players have complained about since the top meta threats like VLyon have used
Oliver's refine is perfect. A meme refine for a meme character. I so hope he gets an alt one day.
If he's a meme his alt needs to be a meme, I suggest an Easter Alt where he is just dressed as a giant egg
@@baxterbruce9827Halloween alt where he dresses as a heron
He should get an alt skin or however you call it based on Peony's realm
@@redead8513 skins based off of FEH's worlds are Resplendent attire.
Not all that gimmicky, but Legenday Lyn had a pretty strange kit on launch. She had a somewhat offensive statline, but her weapon granted +3 Res and heavily relied on being close to allies. Her A skill only triggered on enemy phase, but she also had Desperation 3 for player phase. Like they had no idea what they wanted to do with her.
Leila and Lucia are worth mentioning here, I think. Leila is still the only unit in the game with the built-in after-combat swap with her support partner (didn't even get it on her Thief alt), while Lucia hasn't shared her Special proc denial with anyone so far.
LNanna can deny defensive specials (ie pavise, ice mirror) but not other regular attacking specials
lucias gimick will get shared when nihil inevitably makes it in
I really like the QOL update that lets you see what effects are currently active on a unit, makes keeping track of gimmick unit stuff way easier
Also, I don't know if anyones mentioned it, but the fact that they randomly dropped canto control on mikotos refine is so tragic. She was finally maybe useable..and then medeus happened lol
velds refine is going to be wild trust me 😭🙏
Veld refine waiting room. Praying it'll change from just gravity to Formorttis/V-Lyon 'endturn'
@@TNTColonelhoping so too, hopefully solon can get the gravity gimmick and veld gets the end of turn but we will have to see in october
I hope that Xane is getting a great refine.
Halloween Xane time baby
Because of the effects of Kempf’s weapon, I have a bit of a weird set-up on him: the usual Savage Blow and Poison Strike (the latter as an S seal), but his B-skill is WindSweep so he can actually survive against whoever he’s attacking. I know his best strength is the chip damage so I pretty much never rely on him for a knockout.
Also I don’t know if she’s considered a gimmick, but I like Orochi’s weapon with the built-in Panic. Hopefully her refine comes in soon and gives guaranteed follow up, she’s a good green demote mage.
Oooh boi, I totally hope Halloween Xane gets a refine sometime soon.
What kind of cool stuff could he get in there to make him relevant?
"If Pestblem Ike is on enemy team, grants -win- to player" would be nice
4:51 HE WAS GONNA WHAT
Today I upgraded Thea to 5 stars, looked at her prf and got dumbfounded - grant bonuses based on number of dragonflowers given to a unit is the stupidest condition one could come up with. I eagerly await for a weapon that says "Grant bonuses based on amount of dollars you've spent on the game. If the currency you used is not dollars, calculate bonuses based on current exchange rate". That would at least be funny and in line with any damage calculations being impossible these days.
She's not the only unit with this gimmick, either. Farina, Malice, Hugh, and bride Anna all have it, too, and I was only willing to give the flowers to Anna because I like her.
@@Gracereza I don't have any of them, besides bride Anna, but she's a modern unit, so I didn't read the text. At least for the others, it kinda makes sense, since you recruit all of them (minus Anna) at least once using money, which is their main motivation, but why Thea?
@@Xertaron.she’s a mercenary from Illia so it makes sense you’ll have to pay for her services. Anna is also constantly scheming to make money.
@@tommynguyen5450 Sure, but she's a mercenary to provide for her people, money is just a means to an end for her. My point is - out of all mercenaries in FE you could pick to have that effect, Thea makes one of the least sense to have it. Shanna, Noah and Zelot are also Illian mercenaries, and they don't have anything like that.
And yeah, for Anna it makes sense - certainly more than her working for free in all of her mainline appearances.
@@Gracereza I only got Farina
For the old video, I feel like “unit archetypes” is what you’re trying to get at
Maybe, but archetypes are usually used to denote that a selection of different characters fit into a similar mold. Like how we have Jeigans, Christmas Cavs, Ests, etc.
Now I want an Oliver alt whose perf would give him global spectrum saviour for those units. Any other effects to make him broken when saviour occurs as well.
Best thing, you could use him with brave Soren to have a broken far save. And he doesn't need to be armour.
21:56 She’s designed to be a warp beacon. Share Spoils was just a nice bonus if you somehow couldn’t ORKO with today’s power level (for example, E!Ike)
I hope Veld's refine will give the end turn effect. That would make his Petrify tome actually worth something. Lmao
Petrine went absolutely insane when fallen edelgard wrecked the meta on release since she was one of the easier units to build in order to counter her, i remember people building her specifically for that reason (since the only other beast effective unit was petra)
Nemesis' OG DCS would have fit here. %DR based on ally HP, got it once per phase and otherwise got just A/D +2 for each ally with the conditions. But now it's huge %DR once per phase and good %DR the rest of the time, A/S/D/R +3 per ally, with +4 to that if the condition was met at all, +4 for greater than 25% HP on himself, Special Fighter and post-combat healing.
Still dies to anything with %DR shredding. Could have used guaranteed follow-up and follow-up denial too, but we can't have everything. Now to wait for him to get an alt, maybe his Dark Emblem.
As a max Nemesis investor, hopefully his alt could be a mythic 😢 it could be him before he was zombie nemesis or like you said his dark emblem
Gotta love our Red Tome Infantry Villian Greil Units and their silly gimmicks.
21:36 I mean, he's supposed to be the royal guard for Tana (who's Rearmed was on the same banner), so it makes sense for him to have an effect that protects fliers.
Iago's weapon especially pre refine fit his personality perfectly. He sits in the back and makes his allies do all the fighting while using cheap tricks to mess with the opponents. But once you get pass all his dirty tactics he's a sniveling coward that kind of sucks in a fight. So you'll probably beat him easily.
My favorite part about this series is the thumbnail images being taken from the "a day in the life" series
Lapis’ condition is actually really strong IMO. The idea is that she’s a galeforce beacon, and so her kit is mostly built around being able to initiate once and survive, and also debuff and chip damage. There’s no guarantee she’d be able to get the first kill (which is always hard for beacons ever since near saves were a thing) and so if she fails to kill, you still have the same action economy. It’s basically a backup effect rather than something you intentionally want to trigger.
My pride and joy is my +10 fallen Muarim. A/S Finish 4, Special Spiral 4, TP4, Astra with Emblem Marth and support with Bridal Rafiel with Inf Pulse. If he's able to get his special off, he hits like a nuke. I just need some way to bypass effects like Lucia. You can make gimmicks work sometimes.
It may not be AS gimmicky as the ones listed here, but I feel like an honorable mention should be given to Limstella. Since to my knowledge, they're the only unit with the gimmick of damaging their own allies
Sadly, they're not, Lif, Thrasir and F!Berkut have them beat
Base Lif does the same thing. It’s hard to keep track of all these heroes though.
Petrine was my golden ticket against Fallen Edelgard during her reign of terror. Only reason I made her +10. Thank God Fallen Edelgard isn't in true meta anymore (still annoying to see from time to time)
Not _that_ gimmicky but I like how original Loki's weapon gives a bunch of nerfs based on HP rather than Res or something.
Whether it gives [Stall] or [Gravity] (as well as which stats it affects) is based on weapon range which is really weird.
Obviously [Gravity] is better but [Stall] is still useful since there are so many units that give themselves extra movement for free, like Seliph and Bridal Sharena and certain Edelgards.
For that I think she's the best-aged unit of her era, and definitely one of the better gimmicky ones.
Nyx with Laguz Friend and hardy bearing 😘👌🏻
i cant wait for olivers resp
Riev still usable during turmoil season imo
So many of these GF support units would be better if they had a Fury effect or a Fury Status support. It's such a simple thing but IS refuses to give it away. I guess they want to keep GF a certain difficulty threshhold to sell units that make it easier (Edelgard, B!Sharena)
Julius wasn't THAT bad when he came out. He was the o tl red unit who could shrug off Reinhardt, so that was something at least.
...Is this the start of realizing that feh is dying out
THEY CALL HIM THE GREGOAAAAAAT
Oliver sweep 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Man. . . What even is this game anymore I should probably drop feh, i hope that fe4 remake is real I want to spend the next 4 yrs in that game
I don’t care if it’s not viable the loptyr tome has been the only cool thing about feh ever
How'd you talk about gimmick units without mentioning the Bernadettas and Limstella's amazing Vantage enabling shenanigans?
While I can say that your gimmick has some merits here and there, one thing I like to point out is the Subscribe Flaw here. Like, I get that you want viewers to stick around and watch your videos, heck even I stick around to watch your take on the meta of the day or some wacly topic such as this, but when your audience has so many RUclipsrs they subscribed to, their subscription feeds kind of gets cluttered and someday, they have to do a little "Spring Cleaning" here.
And with RUclips loving you enough to recommend you to folks who haven't subscribe to you, your meta isn't exactly foolproof here. And other folks can talk too, especially to this 'Mike' fellow you brought up, so you're not really offering anything new to the table aside from a new joke or two every once in a while. And while your jokes work now, as with all units in the past run of Fire Emblem Heroes, it will fall out soon and become irrelevant without some major love and care put into it.
And while it does have it's flaws, I can safely say that you're still doing rather well in the meta, shortcomings and all. And if you keep putting the love and care into your meta to help survive in the current, overwhelming meta nowadays, I see no reason to change it.
_(This is all a joke, please don't send the newest meta unit of the day my way. I will never survive a single strike from them...! DX)_
Og Leo's refine though. Like wtf was that even supposed to be? What a nonsensical and useless gimmick that was.
I have this man and refined his weapon but more for the memes than anything. To the point where it's a surprise when it actually does anything for him.
Video is good, but you took almost two minutes to even really start- thats a point where undecided people or those who are new to your channel or videos are prone to leave
No views in 6 mins bro fell off
3 likes in 1 month? Pathetic. Try zero likes in 2 years next time, then I'll be impressed.
104 views in 7 minutes bro fell off smh