just amazing. so fun. when I seen this in the theatre, i literally threw my arms in the air when he bust through the barrel. so good! this scene is what animation is all about. entertainment, fun, and just kickin ass! for every 1 person who "rolls their eyes" at this scene, know that there are 10 behind him who are wide eyed, absoulety in love with it. weta digital is world class, cannot wait for the 3rd! keep up the awesome, awesome work!
I'm kinda shocked that this sequence was mo-capped. It shouldn't surprise me because almost every movie has mo-capped but actually doing the actions inside a barrel, that fascinated me.
A cool insight behind the scenes, animation is acting and it's great to see animators utilizing every tool at their disposal. Great to see graduate Craig Young 'in action'.
This makes me think of a Dr. Malcolm quote out of Jurassic Park -"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."
Always get the best digital effects out of Weta Digital! Want you guys to win the Oscar next year for The.Hobbit 3 or more so with Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.
1:50 from the youtube transcript: "We think it would be quite cool if I'm we come up with a better way for Obama to actually eject out of the water and Peter in some ideas about maybe a spear"
Honestly, I was fine with this scene until Bombur thrusted his arms through the sides of the barrel and began using his barrel as a mech suit, turning into some kind of killing machine... it was ridiculous. The barrel rolling down the rocks was still something plausible and not too farfetched, but the barrel mech suit thing... was too much.
***** This movie was made for kids? Hahahaha. No it wasn't, stop kidding yourself. A movie full of heads being chopped off and creatures mercilessly being slaughtered isn't for kids. PG-13.
***** So you're saying that The Lord of the Rings trilogy is for kids too, then? Those were rated PG-13 all the same. I don't ever see PG-13 Disney or Pixar films, and those films are generally known as movies initially created for kids. In pretty much all cases, PG-13 films aren't intended for young children. There's a difference of 7 years between a 6 year old and a 13 year old.
Only if the battles will be like they were in The Lord of the Rings, or similar to The Battle of Azanulbizar. If they keep it like that, it will be fine. But one more ridiculous, over-the-top action comedy sequence and it will be ruined. Things like Legolas surfing on an Uruk shield were okay, somewhere, somehow, those weren't too ridiculous, although I wouldn't see that happening in real life. But this obvious.. action comedy thing they've been doing with The Hobbit... ugh. Let film 3 be a proper transition from The Hobbit to LOTR without ridiculous bullcrap, please.
Dennis Feenstra "wannabe tolkien knowitalls" I'm not here to represent Tolkien. I even liked most of the changes that were made, the only deviation from the book I truly despise (besides most of the action scenes) is the Tauriel/Kili thing and that was the studio's doing. I am here to state my opinion about the over-the-top action sequences that have no place in Middle-Earth but would be more fit in a Transformers movie. Good for the people who enjoyed the silly action sequences, but for literally everything in the world, there's going to be a fanbase.. It should be known that the silliness displayed in The Hobbit films is way too much for a Middle-Earth film linked to a far more serious trilogy, and much of the consistency that it could've had with its follow-up trilogy (LOTR) is pretty much gone. And yeah, good to know you'd like to piss me off. You assume too much. I'm a bigger fan of the Hobbit films as it may seem, but I'm not a fanboy licking PJ's butt, going around saying that everything about these films is "amazing". I just wish PJ didn't go half-George Lucas on us (fair enough, what he did to The Hobbit was far, far better than the crap Lucas churned out with the SW prequels)
It was recommended to me not to watch this film because they said it was like a video game. I now know what they mean. I don't understand why Peter Jackson chose to use so much CGI. That said, I admire the animators talents and patience as they were able to create these pieces for the film.
That scene was - of course - ridiculous, but I definitely liked it: it was one of the high points of the movie. I think these guys did a great job - the problem with The Hobbit isn't the FX, it's the fact that the book makes it more into a kid's movie - so it's much harder to contrast the lighter vs darker themes - unlike with LOTR. I think you'll find, as the plot moves on, and the darker themes 'mature' and further reveal themselves, The Hobbit will improve quite a bit, ( not that it was bad to start with, just that topping LOTR is bloody hard to do ). Desolation was better than Unexpected - and 5 Armies, with Thorin going megalo, will probably be just about right.
Great video! Hopefully people will better understand the process! mocap still requires few hand made iterations, and should be used more as part of an Animator toolset , after all they are the ones pushing it to final! nice one!
I, personally, was wondering what was the software they were using, as well as the operating system. Is that a customized combination, or are either the animation software or the operating system up and available for public purchase?
David Cooltions Good question, it could be cost of licensing, support, anti-virus, anti-malware, protection which is expensive and slows down your workstations, etc. Also, linux has very mature scripting, batch, programming tools, all at no cost so it could be any or all of those.
just google Kubuntu and Weta and you will see articles that say that they use Kubuntu. In this video you can see they are using Maya and the desktop is KDE. i read an old article from about 2008-09 where they talk about the computers and servers and storage (Avatar needed 17 gb of storage per minute.) necessary to create Avatar and it was Kubuntu Linux then as well. When you are talking about computer use, there are two components: the artistic side where the CGI is created using 64 bit Linuxbased software for painting textures, 3D modeling, etc. There is also the techy side where WETA has one of the world's biggest Linux clusters (its ranked in the top 200 of the top 500 supercomputers) for film rendering. Some more info for you that Ill copypaste: "Weta Digital have modified their in-house software Massive and used their 10,000 square foot Data Center with more than 40,000 CPUs. The Data Center of Weta Digital was re-built in 2008 and consists of 34 racks and more than 4,000 Hewlett-Packard blade servers with a 104TB of RAM. Ubuntu is at the core of all of this, running on all of the rendering nodes, and 90% of the desktops at Weta Digital, according to Paul Gunn, the data center's systems administrator. Processing 7 to 8 gigabytes of data per second, running 24 hours a day and 17.28 gigabytes per minute of storage, the computing power and data management put the system in position 193 between top 500 most powerful supercomputers in the world." Paul Gunn has THE coolest job in the world !!!
That's kind of melodramatic, don't you think? It was a fun scene, executed really well. You can tell they had a ton of fun making it, too. Lighten up a little.
Dumb sequence that made me roll my eyes into my skull. Granted Legolas had some ridiculous sequences in the original trilogy, but it was believable at the very least because he was a light and agile elf. There's no way any kind of Earthly momentum could have kept Bombur's barrel moving like that, or that he could move that fast. Peter's new toys have distracted him too much.
10 лет назад
Wow that's athletic to animate a band of hobbit! :) Featured on WikiFX: wiki-fx.net/pages/the-hobbit-2/
I'm a huge fan of Tolkien and his books, was a big fan of the LOTR Movies but the Hobbit os a mess. This is another example of how cgi appears more important than the actual heart of the story. So disappointed.
Was I the only one who absolutely loved that scene?!?
No, I love it because it was a good time to relax from all the seriousness and just enjoy it.
just amazing. so fun. when I seen this in the theatre, i literally threw my arms in the air when he bust through the barrel. so good! this scene is what animation is all about. entertainment, fun, and just kickin ass! for every 1 person who "rolls their eyes" at this scene, know that there are 10 behind him who are wide eyed, absoulety in love with it. weta digital is world class, cannot wait for the 3rd! keep up the awesome, awesome work!
love this, how detailed you guys! good job, this scene is rawr and now i know how much efforts put in lol, keep up the awesome work!
I'm kinda shocked that this sequence was mo-capped. It shouldn't surprise me because almost every movie has mo-capped but actually doing the actions inside a barrel, that fascinated me.
A cool insight behind the scenes, animation is acting and it's great to see animators utilizing every tool at their disposal. Great to see graduate Craig Young 'in action'.
Impressionant immense boulot! Et derrière film de malade!
This makes me think of a Dr. Malcolm quote out of Jurassic Park -"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."
incredible! And looks like so much fun
Always get the best digital effects out of Weta Digital! Want you guys to win the Oscar next year for The.Hobbit 3 or more so with Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.
That looks like a fun day at the office great work Weta!
KDE Rules!!! :)
Yay! But I still want to see the Making of the Sauron sequence! I must see it!
I'm happy knowing that the Animators used Linux in one of my favorite movies :) Way to go, KDE!
Many visual effects companies use Linux.
KDE? what is that?
AWESOME!! Great little edit there guys! High five! (ptsschhh!) :)
This is amazing. Great work guys.
Because Weta is betta ;)
1:50 from the youtube transcript:
"We think it would be quite cool if I'm we come up with a better way for Obama to actually eject out of the water and Peter in some ideas about maybe a spear"
This was really fascinating. I would also love to see some footage of the Grey Goo development.
Honestly, I was fine with this scene until Bombur thrusted his arms through the sides of the barrel and began using his barrel as a mech suit, turning into some kind of killing machine... it was ridiculous. The barrel rolling down the rocks was still something plausible and not too farfetched, but the barrel mech suit thing... was too much.
that was the best part >_>
That was the best part for 6 year olds.
*****
This movie was made for kids? Hahahaha.
No it wasn't, stop kidding yourself. A movie full of heads being chopped off and creatures mercilessly being slaughtered isn't for kids.
PG-13.
*****
So you're saying that The Lord of the Rings trilogy is for kids too, then? Those were rated PG-13 all the same.
I don't ever see PG-13 Disney or Pixar films, and those films are generally known as movies initially created for kids. In pretty much all cases, PG-13 films aren't intended for young children. There's a difference of 7 years between a 6 year old and a 13 year old.
CaptainPlums I watched LotR when I was a kid.
can't wait to see Battle of the Five Armies, bet the action sequence going to be more intense and spectacular!
Only if the battles will be like they were in The Lord of the Rings,
or similar to The Battle of Azanulbizar. If they keep it like that, it will be fine. But one more ridiculous, over-the-top action comedy sequence and it will be ruined. Things like Legolas surfing on an Uruk shield were okay, somewhere, somehow, those weren't too ridiculous, although I wouldn't see that happening in real life. But this obvious.. action comedy thing they've been doing with The Hobbit... ugh. Let film 3 be a proper transition from The Hobbit to LOTR without ridiculous bullcrap, please.
Dennis Feenstra
"wannabe tolkien knowitalls"
I'm not here to represent Tolkien. I even liked most of the changes that were made, the only deviation from the book I truly despise (besides most of the action scenes) is the Tauriel/Kili thing and that was the studio's doing.
I am here to state my opinion about the over-the-top action sequences that have no place in Middle-Earth but would be more fit in a Transformers movie. Good for the people who enjoyed the silly action sequences, but for literally everything in the world, there's going to be a fanbase.. It should be known that the silliness displayed in The Hobbit films is way too much for a Middle-Earth film linked to a far more serious trilogy, and much of the consistency that it could've had with its follow-up trilogy (LOTR) is pretty much gone.
And yeah, good to know you'd like to piss me off. You assume too much. I'm a bigger fan of the Hobbit films as it may seem, but I'm not a fanboy licking PJ's butt, going around saying that everything about these films is "amazing". I just wish PJ didn't go half-George Lucas on us (fair enough, what he did to The Hobbit was far, far better than the crap Lucas churned out with the SW prequels)
These guys were really enjoying their work...
It was recommended to me not to watch this film because they said it was like a video game. I now know what they mean. I don't understand why Peter Jackson chose to use so much CGI.
That said, I admire the animators talents and patience as they were able to create these pieces for the film.
agreed :|
Digital effects =/= video game.
What editor is used there for animations and motion capture? One can spot KDE in there :)
WETA rocks!!!
Aspiring animator here! Just want to say I love what you guys do! Keep up the amazing work. Hopefully one day Ill be in your shoes :D
Amazing. You don't get to see this everyday.
Bravo!
yes but how did you guys animated the barrel, I would have like to have seen more of the dynamic system employed for the barrel
Standard keyframe, I presume?
KDE on Linux, nice!
That scene was - of course - ridiculous, but I definitely liked it: it was one of the high points of the movie. I think these guys did a great job - the problem with The Hobbit isn't the FX, it's the fact that the book makes it more into a kid's movie - so it's much harder to contrast the lighter vs darker themes - unlike with LOTR. I think you'll find, as the plot moves on, and the darker themes 'mature' and further reveal themselves, The Hobbit will improve quite a bit, ( not that it was bad to start with, just that topping LOTR is bloody hard to do ). Desolation was better than Unexpected - and 5 Armies, with Thorin going megalo, will probably be just about right.
Great video! Hopefully people will better understand the process! mocap still requires few hand made iterations, and should be used more as part of an Animator toolset , after all they are the ones pushing it to final! nice one!
This video refuses to load in HD for me.
Would love to work at Weta or for Peter Jackson someday :P
Amazing!! !!
I, personally, was wondering what was the software they were using, as well as the operating system. Is that a customized combination, or are either the animation software or the operating system up and available for public purchase?
+demonsreiche they are using Autodesk Maya for the animation
Do you guys need someone to make coffee for you over there? ;-)))
pleae +weta digital
I'm doing a school project. What Operating Systems do you use and why?
KDE plasma is present in their work stations so Maybe linux distro or bsd.
What makes them do so as opposed to say... Windows?
David Cooltions Good question, it could be cost of licensing, support, anti-virus, anti-malware, protection which is expensive and slows down your workstations, etc. Also, linux has very mature scripting, batch, programming tools, all at no cost so it could be any or all of those.
Though I'm a Windows dude, they run the same software anyway.
just google Kubuntu and Weta and you will see articles that say that they use Kubuntu. In this video you can see they are using Maya and the desktop is KDE.
i read an old article from about 2008-09 where they talk about the computers and servers and storage (Avatar needed 17 gb of storage per minute.) necessary to create Avatar and it was Kubuntu Linux then as well.
When you are talking about computer use, there are two components: the artistic side where the CGI is created using 64 bit Linuxbased software for painting textures, 3D modeling, etc.
There is also the techy side where WETA has one of the world's biggest Linux clusters (its ranked in the top 200 of the top 500 supercomputers) for film rendering.
Some more info for you that Ill copypaste:
"Weta Digital have modified their in-house software Massive and used their 10,000 square foot Data Center with more than 40,000 CPUs.
The Data Center of Weta Digital was re-built in 2008 and consists of 34 racks and more than 4,000 Hewlett-Packard blade servers with a 104TB of RAM. Ubuntu is at the core of all of this, running on all of the rendering nodes, and 90% of the desktops at Weta Digital, according to Paul Gunn, the data center's systems administrator.
Processing 7 to 8 gigabytes of data per second, running 24 hours a day and 17.28 gigabytes per minute of storage, the computing power and data management put the system in position 193 between top 500 most powerful supercomputers in the world."
Paul Gunn has THE coolest job in the world !!!
It would be awesome if Peter Jackson and Weta did an H.G. Wells story. Maybe The Island of Doctor Moreau.
worst scene in the Lord Of The Rings and Hobbit movies. it shows everything that is wrong with the new movies!
That's kind of melodramatic, don't you think? It was a fun scene, executed really well. You can tell they had a ton of fun making it, too. Lighten up a little.
'The Battle of the Five Armies' is going to be a massive soulless piece of CGI mess.
gordongecko1975 How do you know?
Might the wretched scene in a avengers Hulk vs. loki ugly there at the CGI children.
gordongecko1975
I hope not. PJ might just have come to his senses with that one and decided to do it more like The Battle of Azanulbizar.
wow is so cool
How can I get a job?
Dumb sequence that made me roll my eyes into my skull. Granted Legolas had some ridiculous sequences in the original trilogy, but it was believable at the very least because he was a light and agile elf. There's no way any kind of Earthly momentum could have kept Bombur's barrel moving like that, or that he could move that fast. Peter's new toys have distracted him too much.
Wow that's athletic to animate a band of hobbit! :)
Featured on WikiFX: wiki-fx.net/pages/the-hobbit-2/
Oh boy! A look inside the making of the cheesiest, most face-palm worthy scene in the entire film! Yippee!
KDE!!
This had be a nightmare to cleanup....
It looks like a kartoon !
It's a fucking Warner Brothers Cartoon.
I'm a huge fan of Tolkien and his books, was a big fan of the LOTR Movies but the Hobbit os a mess. This is another example of how cgi appears more important than the actual heart of the story. So disappointed.