Weta Workshop's Lord of the Rings Swords!
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Adam's been a longtime collector and maker of replicas of the swords seen in the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit trilogy, so he jumped at the opportunity to check out some originals made by Weta Workshop. Not only does he get to hold a Morgul blade, but Propstore has on hand the elven sword Orcrist! The craftsmanship on this massive goblin cleaver is just incredible, from its elegant shape to the etched runes on its blade and pommel. Swordmaker Peter Lyon's work at its finest!
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The hobbit films had a number of issues, but there were a few aspects of them that genuinely felt like LOTR ten years earlier. The design of Orcrist is definitely one of them!
things missing from the Hobbit films included:
A pre-production schedule.
A script.
Dont forget the practical effects and costumes. The over use of CGI fucked the movie pretty well@@datkinson1635
Rings of power made me appreciate the hobbit a lot more. I was very critical of it and I still think the elf-dwarf romance is cringe as all hell but other than that it’s much better than amazons attempt
@@matthewosterman9030if you look at the weapons in rings of power they are absolutely beautiful and stunning just like these. Someone who knew the material really put their heart and soul into the weapons.
The CGI of well known places in the legendarium is also beyond amazing. When I saw Numenor for the first time in the show it was incredible. The pages of the book brought to life.
Unfortunately it all gets overshadowed by the terrible story writing, awful dialogue and completely contradictory and non sensical characters.
I don’t know where these streaming companies are finding their writers these days but it’s ruining all the hard work of some real craftsmen.
@@datkinson1635 remember they had 3 months to do all that after toro left the project , , can you imagine being asked to do that.... have some respect for what they got right, not for what they didn't.
Viggo almost entirely used his "hero sword". Most of the others were not so proud and used the lighter version :).
He said he wanted to get tired as he used it, he wanted that authenticity. He also asked if he could take it with him when the finished.
@@HeHasGiven That’s so cool and brilliant! Really added a layer of realism to his fight with Lurtz at the end of Fellowship. You felt his fatigue, but also his drive to push forward!
id love that Orcrist, and a ballistic gel orc to try it out on
Still my favorite films of all time, as a life long LOTR fan, seeing what Peter Jackson did, though not perfect were amazing and weta crushed it with their designs and work in the films! A bucket list item is to tour weta and see some of these amazing works of art in person.
I have a foam rubber Orcrist I got from Spirit Halloween some years back (was just called an Elvish Sword on the packaging iirc). I knew I recognized it when I bought it, but couldn't place where from until this video. The real thing is absolutely stunning.
oh dang imma have to look for one next Halloween
Imagine Adam at the auction introducing and telling stories about each piece, that would raise millions
I’m sure these videos help a bunch
It would make absolutely zero difference to the value of the pieces.
More likely to be buying than selling
@@Patriotic_Eagle1995not if ive ever been to an auction before. it makes people understand the value, and the more people know, the more bid.
Those swords are so cool.
I have the United Cutlery versions of both The Morgul Blade and Orcrist.
As beautiful as they are, they can never compare to the real things! Amazing!
Imagine being Brandon. Every time you have an auction, Adam and Norm turn up to nerd over everything, and you have to say "Hi Adam!" and shake hands like you've only just met 30 times in the space of a few hours.
Brandon knows Adam has both 6 million subscribers, and an in-depth industry knowledge of many props and makers, he can fill in some blanks with certain props and as in this video Adam has some bits of esoteric knowledge that is very important like not keeping the sword in the box in case off-gassing discolours the metal.
Also Propstore probably gets a good percentage interest in their auction from people who watch these videos.
And thank them for the extra attention and everything cause, y'know, it's Adam f*cking Savage
They're probably paying Adam and tested for the advertising.
lol I think about that every time! Theyve met for the first time like 300 times now. haha!
You'd think he has it hard enough being Anthony Jeselnik's brother!
I absolutely love when Adam geeks out like a kid. I'd be giggling and grinning the same way if I were in his shoes! Such a fun guy!
THAT'S SO FREAKING COOL
Going here is like a dream come true! Amazing video
I love their stuff.....I would like to own an elvish sword from the opening scene of Fellowship..so elegant and lethal
A sword with a long handle. I love that sword too
i love Orcrist to me it's one of the top three best movie swords ever (along with Connor McCleod's Katana and Inigo Montoya's Rapier).
Connor/Ramirez's Kitana from Highlander is also an iconic blade
I personally am a fan of Theoden's and Eomer's swords, as well as Eowyn's. (Can you tell I'm a horse-girl?)
@@demonduck132I like Gimli's battle ax, doesn't make me a dwarf.
Bill's Hattori Hanzo?
Gandalf
"you could not wish for a finer blade"
Man at Arms Reforged channel has a pretty neat build of Orcrist they have on there. The size of this Orcrist is like a two handed falchion, but man does that thing gleam.
Yesterday's video had my curiosity, now you have my attention!
I have some Peter Lyon's originals - from before the LOTR films!
I did an interview with Peter Lyon and John Howe some 20 years ago about the design and manufacture of the LotR weapons. Two gentlemen who played a big part in getting the look right.
Oh, man, Shane was awesome. He was our receptionist when he wasn't on the set, introduced to me as a guy who wears a lot of latex which confused the hell out of me back then. :-D
The guy was on tenterhooks the whole time, worrying that Adam was going to ding that sword.
I saw one of the steel orchist blades at the Royal Armouries in Leeds. I wonder if that is the same one you are holding there, as the one at the Royal Armouries is no longer there. I love talking to Peter about them and when I saw it, I surprised at the size. Then I realized Peter had to make a few different size scale versions of the hero props as they had to scale actors and such depending on the shot. So I asked him, and the large one, like you are holding there, was made scaled up, so when they scale down the actor to dwarf height, the sword was correct. I hope we can get Peter on one of our Sword Talk podcasts soon. Thanks for doing this video!
I gotta say, the Morgul blade looks better here than it does in the movie.
Really shines without the filters and cleaned up
Especially when we only see it for a minute or two, total!
I had no idea that the Orcrist was so long with such a large profile it seems in the films such a smaller blade and a one handed at that but what Adam is holding is certainly a two handed blade, but the other aspect you don't see is the real beauty of this blade brovo to Weta Workshop!
one thing to remember is that this was scaled to the actor not to Adam so that could be part of it. I think it falls more under the category of a hand and a half sword as with many swords and other tools they were often made to accommodate glove/gauntleted hands as well so when so when held bear handed they feel a bit oversized (this is speaking more from the point of interacting with museum collections as a blacksmith not anything to do with movies)
@@wmose3694 it looks like a falchion design which was primarily one handed. they slightly oversize the heros to accent detail.
@@natemartin6488 if you look at it on screen it is still over sized it is a fantasy blade so there are few real rules followed as far as functionality goes as they are rarely used steel on screen so the weight and balance are different when a sword is made of rubber foam resin or aluminum (in some cases they are oversized so that they have a bit more heft and with act more realistically rather than look like a kid sword fighting with a hollow tube
@@wmose3694 Orcrist seems oversized because it's a sword meant for an Elf and supposed to be a single handed sword. In the hands of a dwarf it would be a fairly large sword, so they made two versions; this oversized version for Thorin, and a properly scaled version for when Legolas has it.
@@ExplosiveFetus if you read my first comment you will see that is what i said it was Scaled to the actor not to Adam as to dwarf vs elf dwarfs while shorter are far stouter and have larger hands even so if you look at the screen usage of the Orcrist when Legolas is holding it it is still a hand and a half hilt
those intricate details on the Orcrist, sheeeesh
I would give my left arm and probably one of testies to see this sword in a movie or tv show in the context and time it was made, during the days of Gondolin and the terrible battle that led to its doom.
Armies of Balrogs man... Gothmog!
That would be so awesome.
When I saw just the hilt & shards of Narsil in Fellowship, I said now That is a sword! I have the United Cutlery replicas of Narsil complete and Aragorn's Elven knife i my wall. I can still quote the Elvish inscription on the big blade.
I enjoyed getting to play with some of the LOTR prop swords at Weta Workshop in Wellington earlier this month
Weta's site says that sword is over 6 lbs. That's quite a bit heavier than you'd really want in a sword that short. The heaviest kinds of historical swords ballparked around 4.5-7, but they were also far longer and made for two hands.
SO COOL! I hope I get to meet you at a con some day! Stay safe and keep up the great videos!
Actually, I believe this sword would have been one of the large versions for one of the dwarf actors to handle, to make the ACTOR, e.g. Richard Armitage to look smaller. The smaller version, or normal version of the sword would be for human or elf actors, e.g. Orlando Bloom to handle.
I have the United Cutlery version of Orcrist and while it certainly isn't Weta quality it is still very good and is one of my favorite swords in my small collection. Love seeing Adam geek out over the real thing cuz I'd be the same way lol
love the skx on the wrist 😎
I have a foam cosplay replica of Orcrist, and I would absolutely love to have a "battle ready" live steel version. I just absolutely love this sword. It's like a cross between a tachi and a kukri, and it really brings out my combative imagination when I play with it. I can tell from seeing Adam handle this one that I would want my hypothetical smith to refine and slenderize the design though. The handle, for example, is clearly much larger than the one on my replica, which really fits my hands well. The blade also looks very thick and wide compared to what I imagine when I think of LOTR elven weaponry.
It’s to thick for weaponry in general, and the handle has ZERO grip: it has no wrap or grooving, it’s handle is waaaay too long even for a larp sword that wants to fit every possible hand size, and the hilt tapers AWAY from the blade and towards the pomel. ITS TOO SLIPPERY >:(
It does look kinda cool though :>
“….don’t touch the blade.” Adam commences to touching the blade…
Those are some wild swords! What process was used to spot etch the aluminum to create the pitting?
very cool stuff
Seeing Chuckie leering at me over the table is terrifying.
Adam Savage is my favorite Nerd in the world. Have followed his exelent work for more then 20 years. So happy that he still share his passion with the world.
Once you notice the Chucky doll peaking up from behind the table, you can't see anything else.
From the point at 4:25 I see ply wood used in the box as some types of ply uses phenol-formaldehyde in it's production, I see why they are concerned about off-gassing, formaldehyde is corrosive to metal, BUT, within months ply becomes pretty inert, 90 days and there is only trace off-gassing, so panic ye not in terms of keeping it in the box.
Fun fact I worked in a place that made particle and ply, the main presses were right next door to the tanks of formalin and other chemicals, there was a massive risk of dust explosion, you'd walk around in that environment and your eyes burn constantly, most of the workers looked like the cast of Das Boot, pale, unhealthy and red eyed.
That factory has caught fire almost once every year for ten years, one blaze took 24 hours to extinguish. One day it's going to go off big time.
Accuratize!?
Ack, my heart
Just gotta say, Love living in Wellington :-))
Peter HAS made sharp blades for export. I have two
Which two do you own?
@@matthewskarbek4564 they are custom one of a kind builds
Ah very cool!
Tbf if Adam feels like that weighs around 15lbs, that's pretty much twice the weight of the heaviest real, practical swords I'm aware of, while definitely not being as long as those examples lol. I wish Adam had tried to show if they've tapered the blade thickness from base to tip. I have a feeling it might be pretty uniform along it's length which would make it feel like an absolute brick (which could make it feel heavier than it is). Still though, that edge bevel looks damn nice
I was thinking the same thing. Most one-handed swords hover around the 2 pound mark, and great swords, which are functionally more like polearms, can go from 5 to 8 pounds. At 15 pounds, that Orchrist might be good for executions, but certainly not the battlefield.
I was astounded at how heavy Adam said that sword felt. There is no one who would be able to wield that sword effectively on the battlefield. As dracodis said, most medieval swords were 2-4 pounds. Scottish claymores were about 5.5 pounds, and those are quite large. The wielder would break their wrist trying to swing that thing around in battle. It is a beautiful sword, though, I just wish it was made to a more "historically accurate" weight.
That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.
@@MossTheBoss First, it's oversized version for a dwarf.
Second, the sword is not sharpened, so it is much thicker and heavier than real ones.
Finally, we don't know real weigh, only Adam's speculations.
Edit: Officially the sword weighs 2.92 kg (from weta site)
Officially the sword weighs 2.92 kg (from weta site)
I actually ordered a LARP version of Orcrist from Halloween website and I can't wait to get it in the mail. The real sword from United Cutlery would be awesome to own.😋
My preciousss
I have a soft spot for first age weapons. My Orcrist replica is not as nice but fun to have.
Adam is in nerdvana.
This is true.
Dragon tooth handle? That's Awesome.
I used to know Peter when he lived in Australia he makes some of the best swords and armour its hard to find his stuff anymore.
*Weta Workshop's The Hobbit Sword feat. LOTR Dagger.
I wish I had that sword
As a note - Adam comments that replicas are often too perfect. Matt Easton and Todd Cutler has an entire set of videos on just this subject.
How can I find this particular video series? They have so many videos together that I can't find the right ones.
Thumbnail cracked me up with Adam holding a sword from The Hobbit.
I just made a mini sword inspired by this. My first one
Amazing!
I think my fav two blades from lotr are Glamdring and Anduril
The Orcrist replica is impressive, it looks very similar to the one forged by the High Elves of Gondolin
LOTR blades are incredible
Orcrist handle is canonically a dragon tooth.
great
I like how harry potter's school uniform from chamber of secrets is in the background.
Nice video
During the filming of LotR Viggo Mortensen used a springsteel sword as much as possible, including in some fighting scenes. Aperently he bruised quite a few stuntmen who play Uruk Hai during the last fight in the Fellowship of the Ring
can you cut down the case and made it in to a scabbard for the sword?
Nice!
In the meantime, Rings of Power looks like they ordered everything off of Amazon.
I might be mistaken but I believe it was weta that worked on the show's armor and weapons as well
Does it glow blue?
Adam just casually dropping the fact that he was at Neal Stephenson's place...
Did you know Vigo Carried the real blade as much as possible so it would feel and look authentic :)
The police in Miramar didn't really like that 🤣
Yeah, Vigo is a chad! 😎
But why can’t you keep it in the wood box? What would happen? Does anyone know?
One of the things I liked about Lord of the rings was how the weapons actually looked like something that was used in real life. I mean the hilt on that dagger curves the wrong way, but the blade looks pretty practical. So many fantasy swords look downright silly with their overly wide blades and weird shapes. Compared to that, every weapon on LOTR looked deadly. Not so much for Orcrist , but its not so over the top that it looks silly.
lol When you realize Chucky was staring at you the whole time.
There’s no way that is “human” size. Orcrist never looked so massive when held by Elrond, or Legolas in the films. Compared when Thorin wielded it, being a dwarf is when the sword looked over sized, like it does here in the video with Adam.
The original LOTR trilogy is my favorite set of films ever. Everything was perfect and I don’t think it could be done better. Not sure what they hell they were thinking with the hobbit and god forbid the Amazon nightmare
Holy shit I might actually bust.
The pain of being a collector is always wanting more. Even with a massive collection of United Cutlery swords, I would give an arm to have these.
Wow i am early apparently haha
Seeing those swords, i wonder if any of the cheesy 80s ninja movies survived, or if they were taken home or were private 'toys' to begin with.
I'm always a fan of the Ninjato sword, the typical "ninja" sword, and i wonder if there's any famous movie ones around.
I hadn't thought about it, but Orcrist is kind of a falchion.
That's awesome, but I still want the 3 bladed sword from The Sword and the Sorcerer movie...
How tall is Adam? I am 6-4 and mine looks smaller
the sword from thorin is called the goblin cleaver
Pretty sure the Orcrist handle is supposed to have a dragon tooth for a handle, so you're right on the money there
These vids always feel like Adam and Brandon are continuously trying to one-up eachj other on lore and stories. lol
I think that’s the oversized orcrist for the dwarfs shots.
Looks like the Orcrist sold already!
Woow
I wonder what a lightsaber in the style of Lord of the Rings would look like.. Like a Dwarf style and a Elf style.
I'm in the wrong job...
I have hold a "cheap" replica of Anduril. Even that thing is highly impressive. I'm not sure if I could survive an 100% authentic replica :D
Posted a day after the auction...
15 lbs is crazy… but the goblin cleaver is a monster of a weapon
I was planning on bidding on those, but the 25% added propstore fees and high shipping costs killed anything I wanted to get.
Auction fees tend to hover around at 10-15% so they're really charging a premium. Don't want us peasants getting our hands on these, eh?
@@kutter_ttl6786 Heritage is 25%... VIP is 25%... Icons of Pop Culture is 26%... Julien’s is 27%... Bonhams is 28%...
Who are you comparing against?
BP % might as well be arbitrary from a bidder’s perspective. It matters for a consignor, because it impacts their cut. But any seasoned bidder factors the BP in when they bid. Whether it’s 5% or 50%, it merely changes the number you punch into a calculator when determining what you’re willing to bid.
@@Thomas_Esson The problem is "seasoned" bidders aren't always the ones bidding.
@@user-hx4br8to3q True; someone brand-new to how modern-day auctions work might neglect or forget the terms. I'll even grant that a seasoned bidder might have an occasional lapse. But while I haven’t seen research on this effect, I’m skeptical that it happens with sufficient frequency to justify a serious worry about losing any given item on that account. [Plus, as you suggest, it may turn bidders away.] I’d consider it more probable you’ll instead lose to someone who gets caught up in the moment and blows past their max voluntarily, or someone who just values the item higher for whatever reason - foolish or otherwise.
It may still occur enough in aggregate to constitute a small element of why premiums exist, but I can’t imagine it’s the driving factor; I expect it has a far greater impact facilitating a lower commission to entice consignors (more likely than bidders to be inexperienced, I’d say), while artificially inflating the perceived success of results relative to the estimates (again, targeting uninitiated consignors). Premiums are a psychological game, without a doubt. They’re inherently deceptive - I’d just argue mostly towards consignors.
Though for the record, I also hate premiums as a bidder; they invite misleading reporting, and they force everyone to do needless calculations. My disgust is just independent of the percentage, and I don’t understand what makes Propstore unique in your view, given that its percentage aligns with the competition.
Man at Arms Reforged made an amazing version of Orcrist.
"What do you guess it weighs?"
"15 pounds?"
"Yeah."
"Is that about right?"
"I don't know."
"I know that sword!"
Man looks like Ludwig
Adam seems ready to whip out a credit card, and purchase both.... Right now!
But we SAW the Witch King's blade dissolve!
(Sorry :D)
OH MY .........................
I would have hoped most of the swords went home with the actors.
@Tested that sword is sharp, I know the former owner of both Orcrist and the Witch King sword that were just sold in the latest PropStore Auction that’s still ongoing. Weta ships them sharp, I was getting nervous watching Adam get oh so close to touching that edge.