One interesting fact about Finitevus I found by reading through archives of the official Archie Sonic blog is that Finitevus actually incited the Dark Legion Civil War as a way of testing whether Remington or Lien-Da was the stronger candidate for Enerjak. And then when he decided to just use Knuckles instead, he just left them to continue fighting themselves. I think stuff like that is what makes Finitevus such a great villain for Knuckles. He's primarily a manipulator, in contrast to Knuckles' initial gullibility.
He really was a fantastic character and I really think just such a good villain as he was only ever really in it for himself. It's a shame that he's stuck in Archie.
I think he owns him based on a technicality. He created evil sonic (sonic in a jacket with sun glasses) and sense scourge is technically the same character he claims ownership. Or maybe it’s just cause sega doesn’t care enough to argue with him
@@janderson6756 that’s the exact technicality he _doesn’t_ own him. Sega just also doesn’t want to deal with anymore lawsuits so are afraid to bring them back (and never will now that archie has cancelled)
@@shadamyandsonamylover whatever the case is, countless awesome characters are gone forever when they don’t have to be. What I would give to have scourge be the antagonist of a Sonic game. Or the antagonist of an idw story arc
@@janderson6756 true. Do you know about the fan revival? I havent checked it out in a minute but there were a group of fans continuing the mecha Sally arc pre SGW. It was good and the art was amazing. Think it was called “the real archie sonic” or something along those lines.
What if Fintievus is also the last of the echidna race, and has been searching for Knuckles as a vessel for Enerjak so he can eradicate the heroes or extinct mankind just like Majin Buu.
Heck yeah! I know a lot of people gravitated towards Scourge but the smug always one step ahead attitude that Finitevus had really made him a good villain. Plus he didn't look like a knuckles copy-paste which is a win for me lol
I do sincerely appreciate this video for giving a streamlined look at this really intriguing character, but can I just say how much I love the pronounciation of Lien-Da's name as "Linda"! I can totally picture Sonic using that as a joking nickname for her. Heck, he might have, I can't remember, it's been a while since I read Archie Sonic.
Dr. Finitevus reminds me of Dr. Starline, the Sonic IDW variation. Though Starline is supposedly no more, I wonder if he could come back like Finitevus. Just a thought.
I've also noticed the similarities and even pointed it out in my Mr. Tinker Video! I'd love to do a video on Starline as I'm dipping my toes into more IDW content
16:12 Dr.F may also be inspired by the Fleetway character dr. Zachary . Both are white Echidna . Both have relationship the knuckles . both are evil Tho Zachary has a unexplained reason for being evil since the comic ended however from what was stated he seemed to be abandoned by the Echidna Clan and that made him hate the world.
I do kind of remember reading something like that online before. I don't know much about the Fleetway comics so it seems to have slipped my mind but that would have been a good fun fact!
It's been on my list for a while but the more I chip away at it the more I think it'll take me a while longer than I plan lol. Right now I'm trying to build a bit of a cushion of extra videos to schedule so I can have uninterrupted time to work on it!
Seeing as you made a video on Scourge and Dr. Finitevus now, what about a video on Fiona or the Destructix? Since they're all connected to each other at this point.
Man I love listening to your videos. Sonic stuff (even if it’s from a writer I don’t really like) I find it interesting what happened during the comics back then. :b thanks for your hard work on researching these topics!
I would really enjoy a long term video series or essay on all of echidna history. I remember being confused on the lore when I read the comics and I think it’d be cool
@@trent7258 I appreciate it! Also lol yeah they do have some nest bits and bobs. I'm like 99% sure Enerjak is my next big project I have my eyes on and I'll be touching on a lot of echidnas for him 😅
If there's one talented Voice Actor who would be absolutely perfect for voicing Dr. Finitevus if he was the Main Villain in the next Mainline Sonic game then it would have to be Clancy Brown.
Shout out for this guy for looking even more edgy than the Archie Sonic standards. Also thank you RUclips for hiding this vide from my subscription lists.
Great video I think the next character should cover should be Espio as from what I remember he has a very interesting backstory in the comic. I also need someone to explain that panel with him walking away from an explosion like what is going on there
Thanks! I think Espio could be a lot of fun for the future, I'm in the process of making the next Sonic comic history video but I'll for sure keep Espio on my list of subjects for the future!
Man I sure do love when ken penders makes several hundred echidna and other species recolors, then pulls them from a good comic series right as it’s getting good, then acts like a little child and charges hundreds of thousands for them to be used, makes his own shitty comic series with them, and then turns them into NFTs. When he dies I hope the characters either go back to sega or become open rights
The fire ant is pronounced like ark-y, cuz it's short for Archimedes. One of his earliest appearances had an editor's box explaining the pronunciation of that nickname.
@@FantasticSamtastic OMG really 😂 But why is very small? We have naugus from satAM Ixis naugus before ken panders ruined archie comics and Walter naugus after the reboot
@@mestar_otaku9365 he plays a small part in the arc I was covering in that video(I don't wanna spoil too much about it because it's not out yet 😉) but yeah I'll have to cover him at one point. Maybe a few shorter videos where I can do each of his versions separate
15:00 I don't like making separate comments, but I just noticed that the mecha in the poster of FEET Sonic is a GM (pronounced Jim) from the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise. Specifically it looks like an early design of the GM Spartan from a Japanese magazine.
Not at all! I have one more Sonic video that I'm in the middle of editing and I have a shorter one that I might do after to give myself a break from characters with longer stories. But Enerjak is one I was considering doing in the future and if you're interested in him then I could look into it!
I believe female echidna names are just supposed to be pronounced normally without the - so Lien-Da would just be Lienda, Juli-Su would just be Julisu or Jani-Ca would just go Janica. The latter part is supposed to be some type of maiden name. Fun little thing here, if a female is hosting Enerjak, you could say their maiden name becomes Jak. So, Juli-Su would become Juli-Jak, Lien-Da becomes Lien-Jak and so on.
wait. wait wait wait. Is the Twilight Zone just... the Phantom Zone from Superman??? Is this another thing Penders plagiarized and then accused someone else of plagiarizing _him_ when they made something better out of it???
It does give real Phantom Zone vibes lol. Although tbh I have no idea if it was Penders who initially invented it. He does seem to be a DC and Marvel fan and has snuck in some little nods to them so it wouldn't surprise me
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm still not liking the MIC quality tbh, sounds like youre recording this in late 2010. still a good video but the mic just puts me off
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One interesting fact about Finitevus I found by reading through archives of the official Archie Sonic blog is that Finitevus actually incited the Dark Legion Civil War as a way of testing whether Remington or Lien-Da was the stronger candidate for Enerjak. And then when he decided to just use Knuckles instead, he just left them to continue fighting themselves. I think stuff like that is what makes Finitevus such a great villain for Knuckles. He's primarily a manipulator, in contrast to Knuckles' initial gullibility.
He really was a fantastic character and I really think just such a good villain as he was only ever really in it for himself. It's a shame that he's stuck in Archie.
Funny trivia: Ken might not own characters like scourge
huh interesting
I think he owns him based on a technicality. He created evil sonic (sonic in a jacket with sun glasses) and sense scourge is technically the same character he claims ownership. Or maybe it’s just cause sega doesn’t care enough to argue with him
@@janderson6756 that’s the exact technicality he _doesn’t_ own him. Sega just also doesn’t want to deal with anymore lawsuits so are afraid to bring them back (and never will now that archie has cancelled)
@@shadamyandsonamylover whatever the case is, countless awesome characters are gone forever when they don’t have to be. What I would give to have scourge be the antagonist of a Sonic game. Or the antagonist of an idw story arc
@@janderson6756 true. Do you know about the fan revival? I havent checked it out in a minute but there were a group of fans continuing the mecha Sally arc pre SGW. It was good and the art was amazing. Think it was called “the real archie sonic” or something along those lines.
What if Fintievus is also the last of the echidna race, and has been searching for Knuckles as a vessel for Enerjak so he can eradicate the heroes or extinct mankind just like Majin Buu.
That is very cool! I like the idea
Probably my favorite villain from the Archie comics. He reeked charisma and had a badass design too boot.
Heck yeah! I know a lot of people gravitated towards Scourge but the smug always one step ahead attitude that Finitevus had really made him a good villain. Plus he didn't look like a knuckles copy-paste which is a win for me lol
I do sincerely appreciate this video for giving a streamlined look at this really intriguing character, but can I just say how much I love the pronounciation of Lien-Da's name as "Linda"! I can totally picture Sonic using that as a joking nickname for her. Heck, he might have, I can't remember, it's been a while since I read Archie Sonic.
It was while recording that I realized I've just always called her Linda and had no idea how to say her name lol. Thanks for enjoying it all though!
@@FantasticSamtastic Lol. No problem!
Seriously this Channel is great at making summaries
Always love to hear it! I'm working on a decent one coming up!
@@FantasticSamtastic Yahoo
Dr. Finitevus reminds me of Dr. Starline, the Sonic IDW variation. Though Starline is supposedly no more, I wonder if he could come back like Finitevus. Just a thought.
I've also noticed the similarities and even pointed it out in my Mr. Tinker Video! I'd love to do a video on Starline as I'm dipping my toes into more IDW content
Love these Archie videos 👏
Thanks so much! I love making them!
Me too
16:12 Dr.F may also be inspired by the Fleetway character dr. Zachary
. Both are white Echidna
. Both have relationship the knuckles
. both are evil
Tho Zachary has a unexplained reason for being evil since the comic ended however from what was stated he seemed to be abandoned by the Echidna Clan and that made him hate the world.
I do kind of remember reading something like that online before. I don't know much about the Fleetway comics so it seems to have slipped my mind but that would have been a good fun fact!
I would love you to make a video on Enerjack!!
It's been on my list for a while but the more I chip away at it the more I think it'll take me a while longer than I plan lol. Right now I'm trying to build a bit of a cushion of extra videos to schedule so I can have uninterrupted time to work on it!
I see starline as more of a sniffly inspiration
Yeah I could see that, he's much more of a henchman but I find he's about as twisted as Finitevus lol
@@FantasticSamtasticStarline is a mixture of both tbh. Starline isn’t nearly as heinous or insane .
Dr.finitevus is my favorite Archie sonic character
Honestly he's probably the coolest villain to come from Archie Sonic
Seeing as you made a video on Scourge and Dr. Finitevus now, what about a video on Fiona or the Destructix? Since they're all connected to each other at this point.
I would really like to make a Fiona video! It's on my list once I am free
Man I love listening to your videos. Sonic stuff (even if it’s from a writer I don’t really like) I find it interesting what happened during the comics back then. :b thanks for your hard work on researching these topics!
Thanks I love to hear it! Not all the comics were fun to read but for the most part it's fun to reexplore old comics;
I would really enjoy a long term video series or essay on all of echidna history. I remember being confused on the lore when I read the comics and I think it’d be cool
There is a lot of echidnas to look at for sure. I have been kinda planning on tackling some of the bigger names though
I’d be happy with anything man. I love your content and I always thought echidnas were interesting. Only good thing ken penders made lmao
@@trent7258 I appreciate it! Also lol yeah they do have some nest bits and bobs. I'm like 99% sure Enerjak is my next big project I have my eyes on and I'll be touching on a lot of echidnas for him 😅
That’s great man. The enerjak arc where knuckles was him was one of my favorites. I look forward to it!
11:25
Pretty sure he's supposed to be yellowish-green as we see Finitevus's dark chaos energy flowing around Sonic as he transforms.
If there's one talented Voice Actor who would be absolutely perfect for voicing Dr. Finitevus if he was the Main Villain in the next Mainline Sonic game then it would have to be Clancy Brown.
I don't know, Clancy's voice wouldn't make for solid Finitevus. But, he would've been perfect role for Dingo from Sonic Underground
@@ashesGeek I think he should cause Clancy Brown is no stranger at playing the Villain.
next time Archie's Robotnik and Eggman (the pre-Super Genesis Wave versions)
Heck yeah! I have a video planned on that in the works actually!
Knuckles slaying fennetivis by dropping him off the island would have been a fitting fate
Undone by knuckles
It would have been so very cool
Shout out for this guy for looking even more edgy than the Archie Sonic standards.
Also thank you RUclips for hiding this vide from my subscription lists.
Classic RUclips 🙄. I swear I've been missing on most of the channels I'm subscribed to lately but getting recommend stuff I'm not interested in
The list of characters we want to return in sonic dr hard to spell his name is one of them
He would be very cool to see again! (You would not believe how often I misspell his name lol. I literally just write 'Dr.Fin' in my notes lol)
Great video I think the next character should cover should be Espio as from what I remember he has a very interesting backstory in the comic.
I also need someone to explain that panel with him walking away from an explosion like what is going on there
Thanks! I think Espio could be a lot of fun for the future, I'm in the process of making the next Sonic comic history video but I'll for sure keep Espio on my list of subjects for the future!
cool nightcrawler reference
He's a cool dude!
I wish I could get my hands on these comics
I don't think I can't really point you anywhere but there are places online you can find them
Man I sure do love when ken penders makes several hundred echidna and other species recolors, then pulls them from a good comic series right as it’s getting good, then acts like a little child and charges hundreds of thousands for them to be used, makes his own shitty comic series with them, and then turns them into NFTs. When he dies I hope the characters either go back to sega or become open rights
Gotta love how one man's greed led to the downfall of a whole comic universe
The fire ant is pronounced like ark-y, cuz it's short for Archimedes. One of his earliest appearances had an editor's box explaining the pronunciation of that nickname.
Can you please talking about naugus 🙏
Funny coincidence because he's a part of an upcoming video (but a very small part) and I was debating making a video on him
@@FantasticSamtastic OMG really 😂
But why is very small?
We have naugus from satAM
Ixis naugus before ken panders ruined archie comics and Walter naugus after the reboot
@@mestar_otaku9365 he plays a small part in the arc I was covering in that video(I don't wanna spoil too much about it because it's not out yet 😉) but yeah I'll have to cover him at one point. Maybe a few shorter videos where I can do each of his versions separate
Do more villains!
I've got a few planned for the future!
15:00 I don't like making separate comments, but I just noticed that the mecha in the poster of FEET Sonic is a GM (pronounced Jim) from the Mobile Suit Gundam franchise.
Specifically it looks like an early design of the GM Spartan from a Japanese magazine.
Well now that is a fun fact! I would have never known
11:11 did you predict Surge?
Is it much to ask an enerjak video to get the gist of the dude
Not at all! I have one more Sonic video that I'm in the middle of editing and I have a shorter one that I might do after to give myself a break from characters with longer stories. But Enerjak is one I was considering doing in the future and if you're interested in him then I could look into it!
@@FantasticSamtastic it'd be awesome to get one about enerjak
@@isauldron4337 I will do my best!
@@FantasticSamtastic with your track record I'm confident you'll do a good job
I believe female echidna names are just supposed to be pronounced normally without the - so Lien-Da would just be Lienda, Juli-Su would just be Julisu or Jani-Ca would just go Janica. The latter part is supposed to be some type of maiden name.
Fun little thing here, if a female is hosting Enerjak, you could say their maiden name becomes Jak. So, Juli-Su would become Juli-Jak, Lien-Da becomes Lien-Jak and so on.
Interesting! Seems like I just was overthinking things when it comes to the names!
I always pronounced it as lee-en-da. I also pronounced Finitevus differently, but I'm sure how to express that in text.
I wonder can if dr F can beat shadow or sonic 🤔 since he can use chaise control
wait. wait wait wait.
Is the Twilight Zone just... the Phantom Zone from Superman??? Is this another thing Penders plagiarized and then accused someone else of plagiarizing _him_ when they made something better out of it???
It does give real Phantom Zone vibes lol. Although tbh I have no idea if it was Penders who initially invented it. He does seem to be a DC and Marvel fan and has snuck in some little nods to them so it wouldn't surprise me
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm still not liking the MIC quality tbh, sounds like youre recording this in late 2010. still a good video but the mic just puts me off
Thanks for the input!
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