What Is The Absolute Most Overpowered You Can Get In Final Fantasy IX?
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Stat Maxing is nothing new to RPGs, Especially Final Fantasy, but in order to REALLY stat max you have to play in a very specific way, the only question though is, Is it actually worth doing and just how strong can you really get? lets find out.
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Do magic stones increase with this technique? Just curious as it was mentioned at the beginning but not the end.
Legends of Dragoon content when?
Okay, gotta ask as I have been pondering about for some time. What is up with the HP difference between your level 1-99 Max and Maxing after level 40 playthrough? Have been looking at the equations for HP of the characters and can't make sense of it, do you have any skills equipped that alters the HP? Nice vid, appreciate the time and effort you spend on this :)
I really enjoyed the FF7 Remake, but just imagening getting a FF9 Remake, my favorite game of all time, would be so awesome. Don‘t have a word for that. :D
That would be cool!
There kinda IS an FF9 remake, or at least a significant upres from even the PS4/PC version. It's called Moguri Mod. And tbh after seeing how butchered FF7's remake was, I kinda don't want FF9 to be touched. Imagine seeing the "Whispers" in FF9? No thanks.
@@SirJoelsuf1 ok ok I definitly don‘t want any changes in the story! :D
But all in all I had really much fun with FF7R.
For me it would be absolutely enough getting the same great battle system (FF9) with badass graphics and some optimizations, for example: a more hardcore secret boss or dungeon.
@@levinanders1852 You'll never get that with Nomura in a position of power at SE. Every remake he'll ever make will end up as convoluted as everything he's ever done. At this point, after the nightmare that was the FF7 remake, the last thing we need is more remakes.
@@SirJoelsuf1 Well if the Whispers DON'T appear, Seifer will show up to recruit Vivi into the disciplinary committee and bring us undeniable proof that he owned us lamers.
"Vivi isn't that good endgame, though."
Me spamming Doomsday with all party members absorbing shadow damage: "Are you sure about that?"
melee all the way here thought, look at speed runs
Nope, as much as I love Vivi, he is overshadowed late by all melee teams.
@@ubermaster1 Except for the fact that the only way to one turn Ozma is to use Vivi (and Amarant) and hope Ozma uses Doomsday.
@@joeydehaeck419 Since when is a speedrun the only way to judge effectiveness?
@@CrashSable what? U can OTK Ozma for real?
I always imagined Steiner fighting an infinite number of female soldiers was his payback for being relegated to lesser status as a commander. He's the only person to ever beat Beatrix so I like him having similar feats as her. Gotta kill at least 100 soldiers as Steiner to develop his character properly.
Still my favorite game of all time after all these years.
It's my favorite too
Same! :)
Second favorite FF .
6 will always have a special place in my heart . And I still defend Cyan till this day .
For me:
1. Tactics
2. 6
3. 7
4. 9
5. 11
Mine too!
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"Vivi isn't that good endgame, though."
How dare you speak such travesty!
In my playthroughs Vivi is my immortal tank due to fact that I have 3 elements that he heals from in the endgame
My favorite game of all times, and the one that started everything for me in rpg games.
Holy molly. FF9 is my favorite FF and ever since I learned how to max stats I've had problems leveling up normally in the game because I feel like I'm "missing out". I did a perfect level 1 run and it was very enjoyable (and painful), but now when I want to just enjoy the game I feel I can't because of the stats.
You showing it really doesn't matter (and lets face it: Getting max stats makes a joke of the game anyways) is such a relief it makes me want to play it again in new ways!!
yea i think alot of people really overestimate just how big the difference is
Just finished my PEII following Atomos199 guide two months ago, it was grueling but fulfilling; Next up the line is randomized run just for the laughs.
You could play it like I did once: getting excalibur 2... But without doing any tricks. Ive seen people speerun the game, and they were doing like 3000 damage to Lich I was doing less than 1,000 per hit. I never bothered looking up a guide before trying. My PSP broke before I could finish it, but eventualy i was able to get to the finla dungeon on disc 4 this way, in less than 12 hours.
Mt Gulug oh my god.The first boss in there.. the only way to win, the ONLY WAY when playing like this, is to pray that you get lucky when casting Stop.
My lvl 1 Excalibur 2 run is still the most fun I have had in this game. So challenging though so rewarding
@@etherraichu I never bothered getting Excalibur 2, and probably never will.
I always pause to collect frogs / choco hot and cold for a few dozen hours before heading into the grotto.
Primalliquid: *spends blood, sweat and tears to be overpowered as early as possible*
Me: *edits savedata in aint nobody got time for that and guilt*
Me: Uses an emulator to reload save states and do x4 speed up.
to be fair, i dont think i have any more blood sweat and tears to lose after all the other grinds ive done
@@Primalliquid92 You probably shouldn't be out of blood.
Great work glad to be part of such a massive community for the series I love the most
Thanks for putting all the time into this series my dude, I dont always watch them all but still appreciate all the time put in.
Steiner doesn't need to get op anyways his sword is broken enough to carry him xD
Except Thunder Sword
He needs to be OP against Ozma
@@jaredmartin7040 Even without maxing him out he can easily deal 9999 with Schock so yeah, the dude is already OP enough as it is XD
I spent soooo much time deciding which stats to optimise on my playthrough after learning about the gear stat boosts. Glad to see that was time well spent :')
Appreciate the work you put in these. Would love to see 4 or 6!
More to come!
Keep it up my guy. All the Final Fantasy game videos you post are amazing!
Thanks for doing this! Something I always wondered but now I can actually see it for myself.
Thanks for your time and effort in creating the video.
The Eiko Marcus glitch still works, the Stat Gain is only nerfed, I did the horrendous task of grinding Marcus to 99
huh interesting, the official patch notes say its fixed and other users have commented online that it is aswell. When did you last do it?
It was around December last year. I read of a a fix for this and some people stated it still works. So I played the usual Level 1 Challenge up until I to the Point where I play Steine, Garnet and Marcus. I made 2 Saves there. The first save was grinding Marcus up to 99 and the second was standard until I got Eiko. After I got Eiko on both Savegames, I saw that the Marcus Trick still gave her mor HP, Atk, Magic Stones and all, but not as crazy as on the PSX version
@@UrgentForce I did the same thing but stopped around lvl 60 because it was tedious, can confirm eiko gets extra stats compared to her normal ones
edit: i did it on the steam version
RIP Excalibur 2
Glad to see another upload, appreciate all the time that goes into this crazy stuff!
More to come!
@@Primalliquid92 Next challenge - How can you totally overpower FFX?
@@ExKreations he'll just abuse the monster arena in that case because of how easy it is.
Man, you're sick! Loved your content!
I've always just grinded out the new skills whenever a new piece of gear becomes available and not worried too much about maxing stats
Dang I was thinking we would see some insane differences with this much into the setup. You really put blood sweat and tears for almost no difference in stats. That's dedication.
Absolutely love the videos!!
Glad you like them!
I don't sub to many people, but after watching a couple of your vids, you got a sub. Great videos and I love positive content.
insane, so much dedication, nice work mr Primal
I had actually wondered about this for a long time, happy to see the differences aren't that huge in the end (outside of HP).
but hp is quite important, actually, maybe even the post important since they are tons of attack that deals damage regardless of your other stats. Just get a good psy stat cause it makes your auto regen better among other hidden effects (watch out, psy is caped at 50, like speed)
Hp is very important. With a spirit stat of 50 and high hp. I stand there like kirito laughing at the monsters, my wounds heal faster then you can make them 🤣🤣
Very interesting, wasn't aware @ Marcus as I always killed him near the cages for a little Steiner training so he isn't so far behind when you reunite.
Generally I'll finish the game with Zidane, Steiner, Freya and Eiko but I always end up super OP!
Respect the grind
Love how he did this on FF9's 20th anniversary!
A very interesting spin-off idea and one that I'd love to see more of. I do think it was a little weird though to make this kind of video in a game where it make little-to-no difference how much work you put into stat maxing, seeing the "Absolute Most Overpowered You Can Get" in 6, 7, 8 or 10 would have been a lot more interesting as they let you increase your stats a whole lot more and it makes a far more noticeable difference.
the reason i chose 9 to do first is because the vast majority of people over emphasize doing a level 1 run to stat max instead of just playing as you want, basically actually showing how insignificant the gains really are
Love this game, absolute favourite, a timeless classic, great vid Primal
Glad you enjoyed it
prima: how strong we can get?
chat: all of it.
Love these videos.
I’m just excited to see I don’t know I never played a final fantasy but this looks interesting to me
My man, keep getting it! Love these videos.
Glad you like them!
Leaving a comment to help with the algorithm, also subbed and liked. Excellent videos, man.
This is one of those strange moments where maxing out your character through cheese methods doesn't actually give you much of a benefit. I honestly like that about the game, even though it's obviously not as crazy. Sometimes an actually balanced game is a good thing.
Well with this method it's actually possible to get 9999 hp for amarant.
Started game again so refreshing my memory
Another great video! Appreciate the amount of time you spend for our entertainment! And your bragging rights of course!
Glad you like them!
Great channel, you deserve more subscribers!
Didnt know you made one like this for FF9. Need one for FF6!!!!
Love these!
Thanks for putting the work into this
My pleasure!
Interesting as always. This is one of the ~5ish games I have in rotation atm, don't think I will be trying this.
FF9 was my fav game in 2000 and still is today. ❤️
Great video as usual. I love these. Keep 'em coming man :)
Thanks! Will do!
I did a No Level-Up run of FF8 once upon a time, using Seifer and Edea to level up GFs. Once the 4 stat bonuses were learned, I grinded everyone using Mad Rush on Hell Island.
Doing that allowed for min-maxing junctions and creating virtually immortal characters. They took little physical damage and absorbed everything. It was fun for a one-off.
Great video! I also have an addiction to being as overpowered as possible.
Yes!!
It would be great to see some fights with this maxed out Stats
My favorite FF chapter is X but next comes IX.
You are a genius of FF so much that I didn't understand a word of what you said. I am such a beginner XD
Love your videos, got a ton of good tips from your FF8 ones.
Glad to help!
Vivi and Steiner were my main lads towards the end of the game, EXP/AP system rocks in FF9
clicked soon as i seen the video ! love these overpowered videos , legend of dragoon disc 1 ?? now thats interesting :P keep up the good work man !
never played legend of dragoon so i wouldnt really be able to make a video like this for it anytime soon
@@Primalliquid92 you wanna talk about a grind lol. One of the greatest games ever but the exp system needs a rework, good luck hitting max lvl withing 200 hours
@@Atom-yb5dy LOL oh man, how many hours hunting piggy for sachets, so we could hunt yellow birds for cash. That game was grind-tastic. Fun though, and the more mature themes felt satisfyingly dark.
Make more of these. I'll look for you on twitch. Dragonquest 11 would be a great OP video.
I am shocked how fast this came out after the last one. You amaze me with the dedication it must take to do these.
i actually work on them at the same time, so instead of putting all my effort into 1 ill be working on 2-3 videos at once, for example monday i could focus all day on the 10-2 OP video and then tuesday i could do all day on FF9 for example, keeps things from getting tedious
Would love to see a FFV world 1 video. I maxed out my jobs but couldn’t find the patience to max my level
I love your vids my dude!
Love these videos can you do the star ocean series?
I've watched your videos for a while now, and realized I was not subscribed. ??? Well here is your new subscription. Great work! 👍🏻
Welcome aboard!
Cool I was looking into more 9 lore this past week. It's very nice.
Guess you will do this with the other games.
i havnt really considered the others yet
@@Primalliquid92 well it's a fun exercise if you need some more video ideas. I like to see how strong I can get in games I play and get all the best equipment. Some games aren't fair in that way too.
This makes me love ff8 card modding
Your video are always fun to watch
glad you like it :)
My gripe with most guide out there tends to ignore speed, but with Zidane, speed is really important for Thievery's damage, and I do see a noticeable impact of speed especially with haste (in one run, I focused everyone on magic or strength after spirit, except Zidane whom I focused on speed after spirit), and he was getting 1.5x turn compared to others, but I think this is mainly because I play on Wait instead of Active battle mode, and use menu to pause the game during lengthy summon animations.
For Freya and Quina, I do tend to focus on magic, as that gives them more MP.
Speed becomes less important if you successfully steal enough times, since the formula for Thievery is (successful steals * Speed)/2. You can max out Thievery without an optimal Speed stat easily, especially if you steal from everything while normally playing through to Disc 4.
Here for that grind!
good man!
Ever since first reading the guide you mentioned, I was chafed by how late Eiko and especially Amarant join. Since they don't join until late-ish Disc 2/Disc 3 respectively, you're liable to have an APL (average party level) over 20, and they've missed out on a lot as a result. Or at least appeared to, in my mind. Seeing the argument that it fails to matter actually puts my mind at ease a bit.
yea Stat maxing is nice for the spirit boost, but honestly thats about it. this is why in my 100% run (and albiet when ever i play this game) i never bother staying level 1 to min max
Huh, that's really surprising how minor the difference between the two files was in the end. Neat info though, thanks Primal!
yea, alot of people really overestimate the difference in 9 but honestly its not major
I finished this game recently for the first time. Although i didn't grow up with,it became my favourite final fantasy from all the final fantasy games
ff9 just has that kinda charm :)
@@Primalliquid92 more than charm , because i thought that my favourite will be the first one i've played or the one i grow up with because that how it usually happens and this the only game in my life where i made it To the half of it and then i realised i want to forget about it to experience it all over again.
love your videos
Top work as always!
Appreciate that
doing me best to help u algorithm, amazing vids men
Much appreciated!
Loving the overpowered series mate.
glad you like it :)
Wow, that's a huge difference in HP for both Zidane and Freya. Otherwise the other stats don't seem too big of a difference. @(_@
The only real request that I can think of for you to do in FFT, that might be a good challenge, is... just HOW overpowered can you get Delita before losing him after Chapter 1. Especially since you can't do the Level Down/Up exploit with him.
Sweet. Keep going brother
I’m interested in what you’re gonna do.
Good sir, once again thank you !
My pleasure!
Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
I love this game and I love it so much
Great work as always...
Thanks a lot 😊
I was a little bit too young to enjoy ff7... ff8 was my real first introduction to FF series and first FF game I beat. Then I got FF9.... I vividly remember GRINDING HOURS on my psONE every school night and weekends. FF9 holds a special place in my heart right next to Ocarina of Time. FF8 is also one of my favorite FF games... but ff9 perfected the formula of, character stories... the actual ART Design was amazing.. and the grind felt rewarding enough to keep pushing on.
Worth mentioning that only Eiko really care about stats in that set-up since Zidane, Freya and Quina have fixed damage spells that factor in their stats, so this is more for fluff than anything else. Still fun though.
Id love to see more like this.
you shall, dont worry haha
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I remember stumbling upon this and thinking “all those hours of grinding wasted when this is all i had to do this entire time !!”. I maxed Steiner in a heartbeat that night
You should do a play through picking up after everything from the overpowered vids
great job
!
I'd actually encourage everyone saying that FF9 is too easy, to try playing through the game on level 1 with your entire party (up until Pandemonium at least). I never did it for the Stat maxing, it's just a fun (and time consuming) challenge :)
The Iifa tree forced encounters might be the worst in the game except maybe the nova dragons.
@@kevincrist9753 I actually hated the Cleyra and Alexandria forced encounter sections even more. Up until Cleyra everything is relatively tame and a breeze. Then it hits you. And shortly after Alexandria hits you again.
Iifa Tree and Nova Dragon are indeed painful as well, but if you've pushed through with the challenge up until that point, you're probably committed enough to just roll with it...
@@LiverOfADuckOfficial maybe cleyra just escapes my mind because I'm just happy to have Stop by that point and don't have to deal with Needle Fork rng lmao.
I have the same obsession, In FF7 I would grind Cloud and Barrett to lvl 20 in the first reactor, and steal 99 Ethers from the enemies in the train graveyard to sell and be rich early on.
There are much more efficient ways to grind. In disc one, get the enemy skill materia, learn the Beta skill from the midgar zolom, go to Junon, in the middle between the two streets where there are guards doing drills, there is a switch on the wall that activates a siren and turns on random encounters in that area. The random encounters spawn enemies you normally wouldn’t fight until disc 2. They give a ton of exp, ap, and gil, and you can one shot them with Beta. You will go from level 20 to level 50 in around an hour. No need to grind anywhere before or after this unless you want to become all powerful like this guy. Grinding in the first reactor is really odd though, like it’s just super inefficient, not just for characters but for Materia especially.
I got 99% save where I did no exp run + all key items/equipment and all quests except that one where you have to return to lindblum after each event in Memmoria. Ozma was a joke after maxing levels and abilities :D
This type of content is why I’m a subscriber
:) maybe check out some of the other stuff, who knows might find something else you like instead of just the grinds haha
@@Primalliquid92 Will do 👍
This is awesome!!
glad you like it :)
Vivi is a precious baby who I will never stop caring about. 🖤
I would love to see you do this with 8. It will take a long time, with all the draws and min maxxing then devouring.... But I'd like to see someone that isn't me do it 🤣 I'm working on that run right now, mainly because I want the final battle to be easy no matter which 3 are fighting, but also because I've never done it despite playing it for 20+ years. Yes you can max out with junctions, but in that final battle run, you can lose your junctioned magic at random.... So I'd like to see a max out, without relying on full-lifes and ultima like most people do.
"Super long time to make" is an understatement
My favorite streamer and my favorite game. So much winning
glad you like it :)
How did I not know this about FFIX leveling all this time? 🤯
Had no idea the amount of of overpowered you could get in this game, truly incredible.
Oof. WTH?! Marcus is already Lv 70 on my Steam game... Ooops... But thank you. Those last 20 levels take FOREVER and I'm doing them manually with no scripts or turbo controller or whatnot. You set me free!
Would love to see you overpower in VI.
Loce this game can't wait to see what you have to say.