The Daniel Defense H9 - Formerly the Hudson 9
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Daniel Defense has release their new H9 pistol. They bought the rights to the original Hudson 9 but have completely redesigned it into a more streamlined handgun.
#danieldefense #h9 #hudson 
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Mine experience has been similar with a couple differences. Should be dropping my review shortly 🇺🇸
Larry Vickers is a legend, I trust his perspective. How do you feel about the business maneuver by Daniel Defense adopting the H9?
Can't wait!
Please Mike, don’t make us wait long for your review.
How is Accuracy?
Cha Ching!
James Reeves did a good breakdown about how different the guns are internally. He said only a single part survived from the original to the DD release.
He's my go to. Always interested in what mac says though.
James reeves is a professional fraudster and his company is a rip off
I like that you can use it to shoot new keyholes in a door installation. Very useful tool.
The best looking part to me was that dust cover being in line with the trigger guard.
Honestly just happy to see a reimagining of the H9 come back. If DD hadn't bought the rights to it, I doubt we'd ever see another take on the H9 ever again.
MAC, feel free to send me the original pistol and I will sign it for you.
I hope you are doing well. I hate how things turned out with the parts supplier stuff. Glad to see your design got a second chance. Hopefully you made some money off of it. Cheers 🍻
For the record the original is more aesthetically pleasing IMO. I'm a very happy owner of an original.
Great idea! Commenting for visibility.
Very cool reply!
I don't own one unfortunately, but while youre at it, can you send me a signed one too???? Lmao
Thanks for all the years of content MAC. You answered my question on the L85 when I was like 13. Im 25 with a family and left the army a few years ago.
I'm glad the H9 is back, and it seems that Daniel Defense did an excellent job with it. I do think that the original Hudson model looks much nicer from an aesthetic point of view though. Those smooth lines and the way the trigger guard lines up perfectly with that recoil assembly in the front gives it such a nice cyberpunk-esque look. The DD model can't quite capture that since it's trigger guard extends below the front of the gun - even with something mounted on the rail it doesn't look quite as nice.
Great video though!
It's kind of funny how people find different things good looking. I much prefer the lines of the DD and I really like the shape of the trigger guard on the DD gun. I liked the Hudson too, but I think DD improved it's appearance and functionality. Thanks for watching.
@@Militaryarmschannelhow does the recoil compare against the original Hudson? Original Hudson looks smoother almost.
I agree the original Hudson looks much better. DD tried to keep the look of the original and make it more conventional in operation and construction so why even buy it when there is nothing unique about it? The cyberpunk vibe is what was interesting about the Hudson and DD failed to retain this.
I agree with you the original looks way better than the DD model.
Does it come in FDE or ODG?
"It's not metal, it's all aluminum "
😅
Nice review, love the content Tim 👍
Ikr
I wish they kept the super low rail. I loved the space gun look. I know it’s not as functional but neither is a Lamborghini countach.
A Lamborghini gun would be like the alien, not a 1000 dollar striker fired gun..
@@micahdunleavy9227 you don’t know the countach.
Best H9 review that I have seen thus far. Also, that little blue hand is very helpful and hilarious at the same time.
It's good for identifying the dingus 😂
Excellent and thorough review. Very detailed. Loved it. Thanks !!!
MAC‼️ You know everyone & you'd be a great voice for a retro sub-gun.
All us guys at the range are talking about a M-3 (Grease Gun).
Keep it like the original but with a close bolt & a folding "arm brace." Simple, cheap and NO tacticool stuff on it.
Thanks for the great videos.
There was a company in Washington State years ago that made a semi replica of the M3 and it died… I think sales were poor.
@@Militaryarmschannel yeah I looked into those Valkyrie arms guns but at $1,200-1,500 in 2015 they were doomed from the jump. The whole point of the grease gun is to be cheap to make you can't expect to sell enough to stay afloat at a premium price. Still wish they were around though love to have one.
I knew this review was coming sooner or later. Glad to hear mostly positive stuff.
Useful information. AS ALWAYS. Thanks Tim
I love the original, but I think DD also did a great job it seems. This is an outstanding premium all metal gun. I’m so glad to see it make a comeback!
And it cost more than a CZ shadow 2. You gonna get this over a Shadow 2? They are out of their minds with a unproven gun at that price point. Damn thing almost cost as much as my V7 from them.
@@shawnsanders9450 what if I already have a Shadow 2 and want this also? The more options we have, the more everyone wins. You don’t like it then don’t get one.
@@ArmoredCore5000 its not a question of like. Sorry but that's just stupid expensive for what it is and whats already proven on the market . Just saying my opinion.
Great videos! I love the channel!
Absolutely fantastic thank you for your review
Will we see a vid of your new Garmin Chronograph? 😎
I like the looks of the OG H9 better. It’s nice DD has kept it going, but it kinda looks Stoeger’esque to me with that trigger guard.
I always enjoy your reviews. I wish though you would have briefly talked about its accuracy as you never mentioned it once.
Great review, man.
Don’t see why they bothered to buy the rights to the H9 when they fundamentally changed it. It would be nice if DD offers replacement parts to get broken H9’s back in working order.
If I had to guess the original had significant reliability issues within the original design that warranted the redesign. It probably would’ve cost DD too much to replace parts and/or pistols to make it worthwhile.
Wont happen, they are completely moved to the new version (version that works)
They purchased the rights so they didn’t get sued lol
The Daniel H9 is the next evolution of the H9, it's not a completely different gun. They couldn't have made this without the rights to the original.
Great weapon great video thanks Tim
I was very excited when i saw H9 in the title, then i got disappointed when i saw Daniel Defense, then i got re-excited when i saw it in your hand
Daniel defense is top shelf bud
@@dmre0
They've done some politically controversial things in the 2A community. I can't remember what it was off the top of my head right now. It was a few years back. Might have been related to lockdowns, masking, or products they made or made statements about being law enforcement exclusive.
with the DD price premium though, its not that exciting
weird that his hands excite you
@@MaxiimTribethere are tons and tons of guns at the $1200-$1300 price point. Don’t see how it would be considered “expensive”. No doubt it’s a good chunk of money, but it seems pretty right on for what the gun is. 🤷♂️
Great video. Of course the new one is better its internals have been changed to the perfection that Gaston Glock accomplished decades ago. Thanks for all that you do for the gun community.
great review with good information. This gun is really well built and i've been enjoying it. Happy you discussed the cost in more detail, seeing too many comments complaining that it should be the price of a glock lol
I bought mine about few weeks ago. I love the idea of a metal Glock 1911 hybrid.
I rounded the corner on the grip because it was gouging me as well. That’s my only complaint of the pistol. It’ll be my new carry when my crossbreed holster arrives.
Got one and I love it. 400 rounds and no issues yet. Still waiting for my optics mounting plate though.
Wish the kept the original lower dust cover. I don’t understand compromising recoil impulse for lights. Its what made tge H9 different
Adding a light will probably equal out any tiny increase in felt recoil
Can't wait to see how it performs at the range
Just bought this last week, soooo excited. Was dry firing to try to smooth out the trigger because it was so stiff and heard something fly out of the muzzle and bounce around. Lubed it up and went to the range to break it in, pull the trigger… and nothing. No primer strike… turns out the firing pin broke off the tip, I’ve got less than 100 rounds through this pistol. Very disappointing to say the least.
I love mine! Great gun, first pistol thats actually done anything different in a long time
Mac, between the lighter frame and changes to the recoil system, did you notice any changes in the recoil impulse? Apologies if you mentioned it; I missed it if you did. Interesting video as always.
Same question here.
I've put probably put 3k rounds through my hudson h9 with no problems about 1k of rounds in one sitting. After I heard the horror stories I bought extra parts thinking any day it'll break but it hasn't yet. It's my favorite gun still wish that company would have succeeded. Great review 👏
I have the original H9. I bought an extra slide with an optics cut. A great gun.
Ke arms has a sale on the aluminum frame also
I held one at PSA in Charleston a couple days ago and was very surprised by the trigger reset. Very light reset. Felt good though.
They should have kept the dustcover the same as the original now It just looks like everything else out there
form follows function. Tons of people run lights on their HD or CC pistol nowadays.
I am sure that the "pin" that is located on the beavertail is a plug for where a manual safety can be installed. Would need to dig out the manual for mine to verify what they call that piece but I am pretty sure there was also supposed to be a Manual Safety Kit that you could get separately.
I don’t see that on the website. If so I’d love to put a grip safety on mine. No such thing as too safe
I'm sold, I plan to call "Dan De" before the weekend. If their H9 comes with a MANUAL THUMB SAFETY ? I will buy it or get on the waiting list !!!
Man the original is aesthetically better looking. The checkering vs the serrations on the grip, the slide serrations. The way the rear sight interfaces with the rear of the slide. The finish. The way the butt of the grip rounds and of course the dust cover.
It looks great!
I can’t wait to get mine. I love my Hudson H9. One thing I wish DD would do is to offer replacement part kits for the original parts that were breaking on the original so us shooters could enjoy both firearms for years to come. I would buy a couple parts packs. Just a thought
Great Review and Amazingly flat shooting. Love to see category comparison with new CZ S2 Compact and Walther PDP aluminum compact.
Disappointed by the change in recoil system and action back to a simple browning action. Seems to me those changes make the lowered guide not much but a gimmick since its linked to the barrel rather than recoiling off the base of the frame. Seems like a fine gun and I’ll give it a chance, but I was more excited before I saw under the hood.
I agree with you in principle, but everybody who’s put rounds down range with one of the new ones says it shoots as flat & smooth as the original design so who knows
Yeah, they do. You really can't tell them apart, at least I can't, with regards to recoil. I don't know how much difference the super low recoil spring made. I do think the newer design is superior.
@@garrettstiles7808who? I’ve been watching quite a few reviews and it seems like all the marketing bros given review guns don’t even mention how the recoil stacks up to the original. They just say it shoots well, like Mac over here. They all say the same points too,like who tf was actually complaining about the light being too low.
@@thalesofmiletus6162 About half the comments on the originals back then were complaining about the light being too low, which is a valid complaint because it was a pain in the ass to reach the controls the way it’s mounted.
The original gun was also a Browning tilting barrel... sooo.... there's that.
I've heard the trigger is disappointing, at least for the price point. I'll probably wait on this one, or at least try to rent it at a range first and run a box or two through one before buying a gun that's basically the same price as a CZ Shadow 2.
Missed opportunity "The artist formerly known as the Hudson H9"
NIG 211
Review When?
Well... it is February.
Pretty sure that's a radio call for an armed robbery 🤷♂️
i like the looks of the original myself.
Great video 👍 I wouldn't mind having one..🇺🇸👊
Buy a great new design and then change it back to a regular Browning action pistol seems like a waste of money for DD..
Love the gun ... But I can't stop staring at that M65 Field Jacket...
Another Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Thanks 💯
love the hudson h9
Maybe, you should bring back the torture test for this one.
I would love to see a comparison of the DD H9 with the Sig P365 X Macro-either one with an aluminum grip (e.g., Icarus Precision) or the P365 Legion AXG.
I put p320 truglos on mine. They fit flawlessly.
I was super happy to see this video. Before viewing it, i was actively searching for one of the new DDH9's for purchase. *after* viewing the video, I am 100% uninterested in buying one. DD has changed what was a unique design, into just another M&P/glock clone wearing a 1911 grip pattern. this video saved me $1200.
same here
Agreed
I’ve been trying waiting for a comparison review! My original was also a great shooter.
So DD has changed it from being a fairly unique side arm to one where it is a Steyr with an optics cut on top and a 9mm 1911 on the bottom.
How is it anything like a Steyr?
@@borkwoof696 Super low bore axis, narrow slide, striker fired.
@@acarrillo8277 the bore axis isn’t any lower than a Glock, nor is the slide particularly slim. What do you mean?
@@borkwoof696 Steyr has a 1.15 inch bore axis and the Glock has 1.26 inch so yes there is a significant difference in bore axis. I will concede that the slide is not any slimer than a Glock as they are both about an inch wide at the slide; however that is the same for the DD H9 so it's not doing anything special there either.
the buy a Steyr 😂
How did you “pick up” that holster from txc? Is not even available in their page
Also want to add they use a FCU type system. So hopefully they come out with new lowers.
aluminum is metal, its just not magnetic
Love the Pointer Finger 😂
I want one but I want that crook Cy Hudson to buy it for me since he took my took my H9. But glad Daniel fixed the issues and made a solid contender.
Hearing about a lot of teething issues for the DD H9. Keyholing. Battery issues on full mags. Also a somewhat strange issue when trying to clear the chamber of a loaded round. Apparently catching on the bbl extension. Seems like DD is doing some in-the-field testing and the field testers are definitely finding things wrong!
I rented one of these last week and was very excited after all great reviews. It shot fine with zero malfunctions. However, it tore up my hand with terrible slide bite. When turned it in I had to tell them it would need a good cleaning to get the blood off it. That rental saved me a bunch of money, I’ll pass for now, hope they redesign the beaver tail at some point.
The orginal Hudson has such a wobbly trigger.
I'm definitely interested.
I've never even heard of or about the original Hudson 9 until Daniel defense talked and their version of it. So with that said I'd definitely be interested in just getting too shoot the DD H9. maybe after its been out for a while about gets more aftermarket support and more holster options it would be hard to pass it up in my opinion.
Would like to see a video comparing the H9, Archon type B 2nd gen and the Shadow 2 compact since they are very close in size and price, well sort of price.
I have the original h9 I like it . Need to look at the new one . Eyes getting old and an optics would be nice.
This is an interesting firearm with features that I like. The ones that I’ve seen so far seem to all have heavy trigger pull. That’s definitely a hang up for me esp considering it has a 1911 style trigger. Looking at it makes me think the trigger would be great then it disappoints. If they fix that it would likely be a home run in my opinion.
I'd like to see some long-term reviews of this and a gauntlet test.
Please review the new Rost Martin 9mm made in Dallas! Is it really a reworked Arex?
GAUNTLET !
Is everyone just gunna ignore the fact that just “moving the dust cover up” is not that at all it completely changed the working of the original design. The reason the dust cover was so low was because the recoil spring was that low, and in turn was supposed to make the gun drive more into your hand then want to “flip”. Watch the forgotten weapons series on this it’s all explained in great detail. But don’t be fooled this is just a metal glock now.
Different can be cool but man there are so many killer pistols in this price range. It’s kind of hard to adopt something like this. I could have this or a CZ shadow 2 compact 🤔
Interesting. Nice presentation. Think I'll stick with my Sigs & Glocks for now.
Do you notice any difference in recoil impulse between the two (sorry if I missed anything in the video. Trying to watch at work)?
I can't really tell much difference at all. If there is a difference, you REALLY have to feel for it.
With DD history of really doing their research and development as well as in my experience awesome customer service I think this gun is worth every bit that much money and is likely going to give some of the competitor metal frame pistols Particularly Walther, Sig, and HK a solid run for their money in the American market given it is a primarily American company. Also competes directly with the new S&W and Springfield all metal offerings that go for a similar price.
Sick chain bracelet! lol
I wanted one of the originals. Now there's no excuse for me not getting one
So does the DD have a serialized chassis like the original? I was able to purchase a K&E arms aluminum lower and swap it in to my original steel frame one, which probably compares closer in weight to the DD. Also would be nice if DD would make extended maga you can use in the original.
It has a fire control insert that is serialized. Its made from a forging. The slide is also a forging.
Now it just needs the VIS from Springfield armory's Echelon
Are the grips replaceable for future aftermarket different colors and design?
Gauntlet Time for this pistol!😁
My experience is limited with this firearm, but the reset on the trigger I have a vastly different opinion on. It sucks. Just straight sucks. The trigger felt like it reset, but it doesn't and leads to a dead trigger. You have to go a bit further THEN the gun resets.
Otherwise everything else seems decent enough, but I think with the cost and that meh trigger I'd just get a Shadow 2 Compact.
Seeing some QC issues and key holing on some other reviews
Correction seeing a lot of problems from reviewers who bought it off the shelf
My H9 trigger pull is at about 7.2 lb, to the point where I'm thinking about selling it. Daniel defense has told me this is within their range.
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Well, MAC is definitely shilling big time with the DD hat. His example had right at a 6 lb trigger pull, 'but it's crisp', isn't that what they always say?
I shot the H9 at my local range, I was unimpressed to say the least. My S&W M&P9 M2.0 feels better, shoots better and costs less. My SAR 9 is also much better.
The original Hudson one?
I love it and got it immediately, of course all the reddit dudes are hating on it because they believe its way overpriced. Glad to hear you believe it is worth the price. Been really excited to finally have mine
Lol that was my experience on reddit as well. I'm at 500 rounds with zero issues and love it. Waiting on my Crossbreed holster and to put 500 more downrange. As long as there are no issues, I'll start carrying it. I shoot my H9 so much better than the G19 I carry now.
I wish we could standardize pistol dots and not need plates.
Gauntlet!
The original was a chassis gun . Is the DD a chassis gun to and if so are they actually going to produce other grip modules???
I would be very curious as to how the trigger feels and how the shooting feels compared to a Hi-Power
A comparison with the P365 Legion would be great 👍🏻🍻
Interesting handgun.
Saw a video of stove pipe issues. This concerns me at a $1,300 price point
I'm very curious to see how this would hold up to your torture testing.
14:10 I never knew aluminum was not a metal /s
Just kidding, he probably meant to say "Ferrous"
I meant to say "steel", or "not steel".