@Jim Dandy He is also a victim, she preyed on him, molested him and used him. He was a child she was a full adult who shows no remorse at least he was remorseful
Jim Dandy no you thought you knew let somebody had preyed on you and gotten in your head you could have been in the same boat. I’m 22 and if it wasn’t for my daughter I could have easily snapped and did the unthinkable, that’s how the mind works and it’s life.
@@pennythpmas5787 Yup! Every wife coming home to her husband lying dead talks about speakers being taken rather than the very obvious of him being dead.
What I hate more than a murderer? A murderer who thinks they’re smarter than everyone else. She thinks the longer she maintains her innocence that we will believe her lies.
@@TruckieLooks4Aliens She picked the troubled boys with records to be her hit men thinking they would never be believed. She planned totally to get away with it. Surprise!
I agree. Jackie looked stricken and she was terrified for her children. She said, they're killing Kennedys' and I want to protect my children. Her face looked so shocked. Let's face it, Jackie did NOT plot the murder of her husband.
@@dorishousand3122 I couldn't believe that she compared herself to Jackie! She didn't have anyone kill the president to carry on an affair. What an extremely dumb and tone deaf thing to say. 🤦♀️
Omg I was waiting for the interviewer to say just that... Like ummm wow. People will say or do anything to put themselves in an innocent light apparently lol
She wasn’t comparing herself. She was using her as an example of not showing expression during grief. She’s right though. I knew someone whose dad died and she did not cry at all. She was cold for weeks...until one day she broke down randomly while cooking.
I saw her say that “they can forgive the boys. But they won’t forgive me”. She continues to say she’s innocent. Then why does she need forgiveness? She’s also upset the boys got out earlier. And it’s not fair. Well, it is fair. She was the adult. A young adult. But an adult nonetheless. She seduced the boy. In my eyes. Her husband is dead directly because of her actions.
Great point: if she would admit she was involved, as "Slim to None" as her chances are to be released, it possible the Parole board would be more receptive to pardon her, especially if she had taken responsibility early on; though it was & still is a high-profile case, by now if she wasn't out, she'd be closer to it, but her ego won't allow it; real sad all the way around
Ooh good for you. You probably don't care about anyone involved, you're just trying to look noble with your virtue-signalling "I only care about the dead guy" gg shut up
She got what she deserves. Make no mistake, she was the teacher, the adult who was supposed to be responsible for the students; they were high school teenagers who went head over heels for this hot female teacher. I remember when I was a teenager I did all sorts of things I normally wouldn't do, only for the sake of my crush. Basically she knew how their raging hormones would work in her favor and got herself a bunch of underage hitmen.
@@denisenoe7746 Don't get it twisted. She was 22 and he was 15 when she first had statutory r#pe with him. She was also required to hold a special certificate to work within the school system, finger printed, and held by the same standards that any person does that works within the school system you knob. There are 22 year old teachers as well. Time to log off Pamela Notsosmart lol.
To drive 36 miles from Seabrook to Derry and do the deed the boys had to know 2 things. That the door to the house would be unlocked and fairly precisely what time Greg would arrive home. They did know.
I think she used the making of the commercial to lure these kids into her plan. I've watched her interviews every time she did one. She never shed a tear for Greg, and even the last interview, still worried about herself and not what this has done to everyone involved.
If u have tv access u can click view full story in the description on here... I don't so I guess I don't get to see the rest! That makes me so.mad. I watched all this to not be able to see it all!
The tapes are all you need to listen to. 'If you tell the truth you'll be sending JR, Billy, Pete and me to the effing slammer for the rest of our entire lives'. Pam feels she should be free without owning all of her behavior. Then she whines 'it's just not fair'.
I understand that. My father died when I was 13 and I didn't cry for decades. I think looking back it was so unbelievable so stunning so unreal and I didn't want to accept it. And that's why I didn't cry
@ It also doesn't mean, especially by itself, that she's guilty. LE, and especially the media and general public, persistently and automatically begin judging someone as being "shady" at best, or down-right "guilty" at worst, based almost solely on observed behavior or outward emotion that is observed-- just minute snap-shots in a person's life. It is just wrong when people, _anyone,_ begins to judge someone who does not behave in a certain preconceived way, and/or if the outward emotional (or non-emotional) responses do not fit what is considered "normal". Exactly *_what is_* normal in very abnormal circumstances? Making behavior and emotion a "cookie-cutter", one-size-fits-all narrative, is simply an ignorant and extraordinarily fallible method of determining deception or truth-- or guilt or innocence. Such methodology will *_absolutely_* cloud judgments, and bias opinions with regard to any other supposed evidence or facts. I, personally, need so much more to make up my own mind about a situation, and I *_will not_* allow the media, or LE, to sway or determine my own opinions with what *_they_* choose for me to observe. I *_refuse_* to be swept into a frenzy of herd-mentality, which is just a despicable and deceptive method used by media and LE to force judgment and condemnation against someone. We all need to be independent thinkers who look at the absolute whole, and not just at what is chosen by others to be presented to us, if we choose to determine our own opinions regarding what is true and what is fiction. Let's not be used in that way. Someday, some of us could find ourselves in similar circumstances. No? You don't think so? What would make any of us so special that it _couldn't_ happen to us? Innocence? You would be wrong in assuming that being a good person, an innocent person, would make it impossible for you to be in the same situation if the worst was to slam into your own life. It's definitely something to think about more rationally and in-depth, especially if you tend to be someone who bases your opinions only on what is _chosen_ to be shown to you-- shown to you in a way that is purposely meant to sway your opinions in a certain direction-- causing you to forget that there is often so much more to a story. Specifically, ignoring what _is not_ being shown to you, and/or what _is_ shown to you in a way to appear to be insignificant. I always ask myself, _"What am I _*_not_*_ being shown, and what is intentionally being made to appear minor or irrelevant?"_ Just my own opinions on this subject. ~Peace!
As I stated, my comment is about the subject of using the behaviors, or what emotions are expressed, or not expressed by someone, against them in public opinion-- which _could_ affect the minds of a jury tasked with determining guilt or innocence. My comment is *_not_* about the subject of the guilt or innocence of Pam Smart. She was found guilty by a jury of her peers, meaning that the jury had access to so much more than what the media or LE had released to the public previous to the trial, and was presented to that jury by two conflicting viewpoints. One can only hope that the jury had open minds when judging the Smart case. There certainly *_have_* been a lot of cases where the juries were ultimately found to be wrong-- everyone involved was found to be wrong-- thereby convicting an innocent person... oftentimes the tainted media coverage can be blamed, right along with questionable LE work. Sometimes, advancing technology brings to light evidence that was not previously known. Even one wrong verdict is one too many for me to accept. I hate that the system can be affected by prior media, LE, and public manipulation of a case that determines the fate of a human being. The system is not perfect, certainly, yet it is all that we have for now. Case by case, it should be explored if injustices were served, instead of justice. This is important for any potentially innocent persons, *_and_* for the victims involved. There are a lot of cases that are misjudged by some sort of bias. If something new comes up in a previous conviction, it absolutely should be explored... at least in my own opinion. I have not heard anything in the Smart case that is new. I also don't believe that Pam Smart was found guilty solely on her behaviors and emotions, although I *_do_* believe that those factors were used against her publicly from the very beginning, making one able to question if that potentially _could_ have clouded the other evidence and testimonies at trial. If even one or two members of any jury went in with any biases, one way or another, then true justice _could_ be affected. There does not seem to be any evidence that this is what happened in the Smart case-- at least not definitively, from my point of view. ~Peace!
It bothers me when a person kills someone then still uses their last name. Give that man & his family what is rightfully theirs. Did she use Jackie O as a reference? Everyone saw where Jackie O was while her husband was being assassinated & she appeared quite hysterical. Mrs. Kennedy also made many appearances thereafter. Don't ever use the iconic Mrs. Jackie Onassis Kennedy in your excuses.
Yes, Jackie was stoic. But, dear, Jackie didn’t orchestrate her husband’s murder but you did. You were ice. Jackie wasn’t. Don’t ever compare your self to Jackie Kennedy Onassis.
Shes so obviously guilty... like are you kidding me.. she might've had a fighting chance had she not completely blown her cover while cecelia was on the wire....
True: if she had admitted during the Trial, or come to her senses in prison, particularly early on, she could possibly have been or be in a position to be released; that honesty & humility would give the 2 degrees she's earned while locked up that much more merit; but her ego is in the way
You feel sorry for the young boys who mercilessly murdered Greg as he begged for his life, served lenient prison sentences, and are now free to live their lives? Yeah, that makes sense.
I'm watching this story on REELZ, and I can't believe Pamela still insists on being seen as an innocent party. Billy Flynn is a free man now but he lost his youth in prison. I do feel sorry for him but not more than poor Gregg. I hope Billy has truly traded his sin for a more honorable life. He might not ever have real inner peace.
Oh, I'd wager my life that Billy Flynn lives with this tragedy EVERY minute of his life. It's a shame that this stupid self centered girl ruined so many lives. She's where she belongs. I saw Bill on the stand during the trial. He was VERY remorseful. We humans, especially when we're his age have a way of turning away from negative things. The prosecutor went to Flynn's parole hearings and stuck up for him. He said, verbatim...at his age, his hormones were probably running wild, here she is throwing herself at Flynn, now she's threatening to stop it all unless he does this awful deed. There would have been nothing he would not have done for her to keep that relationship going. She had her hooks into this kid's psych so bad. I saw the interview with Flynn and the prosecutor and Flynn told it all. He did serve 25 years. That's a LONG time. So did the other boy. The getaway car boy served, I think ten. I sincerely believe that Flynn, after it happened and before the trial felt remorse. I mean, Pam actually had to ask those boys how she should react to finding Gregg???? Wow, that tells me she never had a bad day. She should have came to me. I could have given her a serious run down of how.
Ive seen them. All I can think of how much trouble would go on in a place like that back when rent was cheap and any old trashy people nonchalantly lived there. Cheating, gossip etc. Now those places are expensive and its a more closed off community..I dont think theres much shenanigans these days.
So, if you don't make $10k a month like everybody else, and can't afford cable, they don't let you watch the end of the story. Again and again and again PUNISHED for being broke. Thanks ABC, for reminding me that without money, I don't deserve any semblance of happiness...
I hope the person responsible for uploading videos will see this. What is wrong with you that your not able to upload the conclusion to segments. This story is not the only one you've done this with. If your going to upload stories please upload entire story. Geez!
I think they do it deliberately. First they generate revenue for ads on each segment, then they try to force people to pay to watch the last part of the “series” through the ABC app.
I watched the entire episode... they were all young and foolish. She can yell her innocence from the rooftops for years but she is most definitely guilty of orchestrating the entire thing. She doesn’t deserve to get out on parole... especially because she has yet to take accountability and admit her guilt.
Comparing her self to Jackie Kennedy..what a joke..Anyone could see that Jackie was distraught and had been crying her heart out,you could se it on her face..That's what kind of psycho, Pam is. Then to say it couldn't have happened at a better time...the death of Greg..OMG..she's out of her mind.
16 or not. Raging hormones or not. They are/were old enough to know better and are {or should be} responsible for their OWN Actions'. She got life as deserved. So should they. It's disgusting to have any of them be released.
Pam have a relationship with Billy who was a minor do you what a pedo out on the street. The reason why the boys got out is because they make a deal to put pam in prison
I have tried to hard to find that episode with diane Sawyer and Billy flynn as a teenager and it's literally no where can someone point me in the right direction?
She's had years to come up with an answer to every scenario that comes up. Who would say in an interview that "there was never a better time for this to happen." My God, what kind of person would say that. She can walk out of prison when Greg Smart walks out of his grave.
Did she really describe the crime scene in Explicit details? Or just a Presumptive statement., like: I bet everything in my house is messed up? or was there a Specific object described that she could'nt see? These are Critical questions for Discovery
She confessed so hard on the recording... like every last little bit of info that she would need to confess to and make her 100 percent guilty. I dont get why it's still a discussion. With that tape. She knew details she couldn't know, separated herself completely from the murder talking about what's been stolen and having zero emotion
Too me at 15-16 years old we all knew what is good and bad,we can decide which way to go.Therefore they all deserve life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
He was charming?????? for gods sake he was a 15 year old kid who looked scared of his own shadow then the interviewer says and your were vulnerable !!!! The ONLY person vulnerable here is this poor 15 year old being seduced by this adult who uses him and manipulates him into believing she was being beaten and ended to be saved ,she's. laying physcopath
Nicole Kidman and Joaquin Phoenix in "To Die For." Has no one seen that movie and know that movie was based on this?? Everyone keeps talking about the Lifetime movie. Even dumb@$$ ABC.
She should be in prison, she coerced a young man to kill her husband with the idea that they could be together. She is ultimately responsible for the murder. Billy was the poor kid that was groomed into doing it.
I’ve seen/read a lot on this case, including the nearly 2+ hour docu-series on Investigation Discovery. Why was this special made ABC? You had nothing to add to the story. This story has been beat to death. Don’t get me wrong, if this is your first time hearing about Pam Smart, this is an interesting case. But there’s just nothing new here.
Something is up with the interviewer too. When he claims that the call came to him, he looks down and acts as if he knows he’s lying. I’m not saying she’s innocent but the media tends to attack who they want to be the murderer and guilty party. For once there needs to be a show just based on facts. No music to try and persuade you, no interviewers trying to persuade. Just talking with facts to allow the viewer to decide.
She may have gitten what she desrevd its indefensible ok? But why didnt buttafcko get prison ? He actually married amy for a while later . If he had not know what she was going to do, he wiuld have feared her . And he did not... give pam a ahit at parole afte 30 years or gi change him. The misogyny is sickening. ( so was her crime btw ) . Its been over thirty years and she was snot much older than they were either . She s had over thorty years and dgottend egrees . Its time to parole her and also to arrest buttafcuko
William Flynn was a victim I know people don't like to use this word lightly but come on guys she was the adult who had the first and final word ! You remember being young and looking up to adults and wanting to be and act cool to fit in because you didn't want to be talked to like a child believe that you understand more than you really did. This was Billy's first sexual experience and he thought that she loved him and he loved her, all Billy wanted to be is liked and that made him an easy target. He was used as a tool to take out her hatred because of her cheating husband it's pretty clear to see that and she found a dumb kid to manipulate! 😥😱💯👈
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only person I feel sorry for is Greg Smart.
Marie Diana and his family.
Me too...Pam Dumbass
I don't. I was in love at 16 and I never would've murdered someone in cold blood. He is not an innocent victim.
Reyna I think you might be getting Greg & Billy mixed up. Greg is Pam’s husband (who was murdered). Billy is the teen who killed Greg.
@@homegirl44 that’s billy. We are talking about greg
She took advantage of those boys' raging hormones.
Jim Dandy I agree ☝️
@Jim Dandy He is also a victim, she preyed on him, molested him and used him. He was a child she was a full adult who shows no remorse at least he was remorseful
Jim Dandy If rolls was reversed everybody would be crying for the girl. He served his time get tf over it
Jim Dandy no you thought you knew let somebody had preyed on you and gotten in your head you could have been in the same boat. I’m 22 and if it wasn’t for my daughter I could have easily snapped and did the unthinkable, that’s how the mind works and it’s life.
Yes she did....
Husband laying face down on floor in front of speaker stand dead.
Wife: Where'd the speakers go? I think I've been robbed.
She's guilty. And stupid.
So stupid
@@pennythpmas5787 Yup! Every wife coming home to her husband lying dead talks about speakers being taken rather than the very obvious of him being dead.
😭
What I hate more than a murderer? A murderer who thinks they’re smarter than everyone else. She thinks the longer she maintains her innocence that we will believe her lies.
@@TruckieLooks4Aliens She picked the troubled boys with records to be her hit men thinking they would never be believed. She planned totally to get away with it. Surprise!
Poor Gregg, his poor parents, his poor friends. Oh my goodness.
Hell hath no fury…
Yeah poor him, but because he cheated she snapped 🤔🙄
Like what happened to Lynette Dawson?
His parents are both dead now too
Jackie’s eyes were swollen from days of crying.
That liar isn't near Jackie's class.
I threw up on that one.
I agree. Jackie looked stricken and she was terrified for her children. She said, they're killing Kennedys' and I want to protect my children. Her face looked so shocked. Let's face it, Jackie did NOT plot the murder of her husband.
@@dorishousand3122 I couldn't believe that she compared herself to Jackie! She didn't have anyone kill the president to carry on an affair. What an extremely dumb and tone deaf thing to say. 🤦♀️
Pam Smart didn’t just compare herself to Jackie Kennedy, did she?
OMG... hahahahah, I just got to that point in the video and was going to post... hahaha
Yes she did.
Omg I was waiting for the interviewer to say just that... Like ummm wow. People will say or do anything to put themselves in an innocent light apparently lol
She just said that Jackie was unemotional too.
She wasn’t comparing herself. She was using her as an example of not showing expression during grief. She’s right though. I knew someone whose dad died and she did not cry at all. She was cold for weeks...until one day she broke down randomly while cooking.
I saw her say that “they can forgive the boys. But they won’t forgive me”. She continues to say she’s innocent. Then why does she need forgiveness? She’s also upset the boys got out earlier. And it’s not fair.
Well, it is fair. She was the adult. A young adult. But an adult nonetheless. She seduced the boy. In my eyes. Her husband is dead directly because of her actions.
Great point: if she would admit she was involved, as "Slim to None" as her chances are to be released, it possible the Parole board would be more receptive to pardon her, especially if she had taken responsibility early on; though it was & still is a high-profile case, by now if she wasn't out, she'd be closer to it, but her ego won't allow it; real sad all the way around
Good catch.
Thank you .
@@jillhamster246 thank nothing they'll never let that bitch out
She wasn't very Smart.
Lol
@Vivian Stimpson 😆😆😆
You said that right...lol 😆 🤣 😂
Who is at 22...much less now?
Well it was her husband's sirname afterall not hers she was never a "smart" to begin with 😅
I feel so sorry for Gregg and his family. I also feel sorry for the boys. She stole their youth. She planned it all. She should never get out.
They ultimately stole their own yourh with their stupidity following after what she told them
I don't feel sorry for any of them only for Greg and his family😢
Ooh good for you. You probably don't care about anyone involved, you're just trying to look noble with your virtue-signalling "I only care about the dead guy" gg shut up
If you are looking for part 6? Pam has more luck at getting parole than you finding a part six, and she will never get parole so.....
Lmao damn it!! Ive been searching for it🤣😭😭
I was just scrolling looking for part 6 too. Your comment made me lol! Guess I'll stop looking now.
She got what she deserves. Make no mistake, she was the teacher, the adult who was supposed to be responsible for the students; they were high school teenagers who went head over heels for this hot female teacher. I remember when I was a teenager I did all sorts of things I normally wouldn't do, only for the sake of my crush. Basically she knew how their raging hormones would work in her favor and got herself a bunch of underage hitmen.
She was not a teacher. She was 2 years out of her own teen years and immature for 21.
She made 2 kids waste their lives
Wasn't a teacher. Wasn't even a parapro!
@@Taylor-zc7mm she worked at a school anyway so the obligation wouldn't be much different.
@@denisenoe7746 Don't get it twisted. She was 22 and he was 15 when she first had statutory r#pe with him. She was also required to hold a special certificate to work within the school system, finger printed, and held by the same standards that any person does that works within the school system you knob. There are 22 year old teachers as well. Time to log off Pamela Notsosmart lol.
@6:40 His mullet game is strong AF!
Billy Flynn's the name 💪🏾
Nobody's ever ever going to think she's innocent
To drive 36 miles from Seabrook to Derry and do the deed the boys had to know 2 things. That the door to the house would be unlocked and fairly precisely what time Greg would arrive home. They did know.
Agreed. They also had to know that Pam would not be home that night.
Damn…..I lived there and I didn’t know that was 36 miles😵💫
Bill Flynn was to young to be “ charming”, more like adorable. Like a kid.
Husband Is murdered.
Wife: “This couldn’t happen at a better time” …..
😳😳😳
😂. I know!
I think she used the making of the commercial to lure these kids into her plan. I've watched her interviews every time she did one. She never shed a tear for Greg, and even the last interview, still worried about herself and not what this has done to everyone involved.
But she said
"Oh, I don't cry because I'm very strong, like Jackie Kennedy"
Ja, ja, ja....
WHERES PART 6!?!?!?!
In the description u can view the whole story. I hate how they do this!!
If u have tv access u can click view full story in the description on here... I don't so I guess I don't get to see the rest! That makes me so.mad. I watched all this to not be able to see it all!
Full version is on HULU ya I hate when they do this🙄
Why do they play such games with these stories? What's the point?
Heather Whittern is it under 20/20 ? Or under Pamala Smart
She's guilty as heck. She promised High School boys money the killer husband. In the interview she did really gives her away
WizzardOfPaws she also had sex with one of them
The tapes are all you need to listen to. 'If you tell the truth you'll be sending JR, Billy, Pete and me to the effing slammer for the rest of our entire lives'. Pam feels she should be free without owning all of her behavior. Then she whines 'it's just not fair'.
Everybody emotions are different when my sister died I didn’t cry 😭 until a year later cried for a half year I still get emotionally tired crying 😭
I understand that. My father died when I was 13 and I didn't cry for decades. I think looking back it was so unbelievable so stunning so unreal and I didn't want to accept it. And that's why I didn't cry
My mother died almost 9 years ago. I've been suppressing those tears, and it almost destroyed me. But, she's guilty af.
Right. I loved my father deeply but I didn't cry when he died. People express emotions in different ways.
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It also doesn't mean, especially by itself, that she's guilty. LE, and especially the media and general public, persistently and automatically begin judging someone as being "shady" at best, or down-right "guilty" at worst, based almost solely on observed behavior or outward emotion that is observed-- just minute snap-shots in a person's life. It is just wrong when people, _anyone,_ begins to judge someone who does not behave in a certain preconceived way, and/or if the outward emotional (or non-emotional) responses do not fit what is considered "normal". Exactly *_what is_* normal in very abnormal circumstances?
Making behavior and emotion a "cookie-cutter", one-size-fits-all narrative, is simply an ignorant and extraordinarily fallible method of determining deception or truth-- or guilt or innocence. Such methodology will *_absolutely_* cloud judgments, and bias opinions with regard to any other supposed evidence or facts. I, personally, need so much more to make up my own mind about a situation, and I *_will not_* allow the media, or LE, to sway or determine my own opinions with what *_they_* choose for me to observe. I *_refuse_* to be swept into a frenzy of herd-mentality, which is just a despicable and deceptive method used by media and LE to force judgment and condemnation against someone.
We all need to be independent thinkers who look at the absolute whole, and not just at what is chosen by others to be presented to us, if we choose to determine our own opinions regarding what is true and what is fiction. Let's not be used in that way. Someday, some of us could find ourselves in similar circumstances. No? You don't think so? What would make any of us so special that it _couldn't_ happen to us? Innocence? You would be wrong in assuming that being a good person, an innocent person, would make it impossible for you to be in the same situation if the worst was to slam into your own life.
It's definitely something to think about more rationally and in-depth, especially if you tend to be someone who bases your opinions only on what is _chosen_ to be shown to you-- shown to you in a way that is purposely meant to sway your opinions in a certain direction-- causing you to forget that there is often so much more to a story. Specifically, ignoring what _is not_ being shown to you, and/or what _is_ shown to you in a way to appear to be insignificant. I always ask myself, _"What am I _*_not_*_ being shown, and what is intentionally being made to appear minor or irrelevant?"_ Just my own opinions on this subject. ~Peace!
As I stated, my comment is about the subject of using the behaviors, or what emotions are expressed, or not expressed by someone, against them in public opinion-- which _could_ affect the minds of a jury tasked with determining guilt or innocence.
My comment is *_not_* about the subject of the guilt or innocence of Pam Smart. She was found guilty by a jury of her peers, meaning that the jury had access to so much more than what the media or LE had released to the public previous to the trial, and was presented to that jury by two conflicting viewpoints. One can only hope that the jury had open minds when judging the Smart case.
There certainly *_have_* been a lot of cases where the juries were ultimately found to be wrong-- everyone involved was found to be wrong-- thereby convicting an innocent person... oftentimes the tainted media coverage can be blamed, right along with questionable LE work. Sometimes, advancing technology brings to light evidence that was not previously known. Even one wrong verdict is one too many for me to accept. I hate that the system can be affected by prior media, LE, and public manipulation of a case that determines the fate of a human being.
The system is not perfect, certainly, yet it is all that we have for now. Case by case, it should be explored if injustices were served, instead of justice. This is important for any potentially innocent persons, *_and_* for the victims involved. There are a lot of cases that are misjudged by some sort of bias. If something new comes up in a previous conviction, it absolutely should be explored... at least in my own opinion.
I have not heard anything in the Smart case that is new. I also don't believe that Pam Smart was found guilty solely on her behaviors and emotions, although I *_do_* believe that those factors were used against her publicly from the very beginning, making one able to question if that potentially _could_ have clouded the other evidence and testimonies at trial. If even one or two members of any jury went in with any biases, one way or another, then true justice _could_ be affected. There does not seem to be any evidence that this is what happened in the Smart case-- at least not definitively, from my point of view. ~Peace!
It bothers me when a person kills someone then still uses their last name. Give that man & his family what is rightfully theirs. Did she use Jackie O as a reference? Everyone saw where Jackie O was while her husband was being assassinated & she appeared quite hysterical. Mrs. Kennedy also made many appearances thereafter. Don't ever use the iconic Mrs. Jackie Onassis Kennedy in your excuses.
Not being condescending or correcting but it’s Jackie Kennedy Onassis. I agree with your comment
Yes, Jackie was stoic. But, dear, Jackie didn’t orchestrate her husband’s murder but you did. You were ice. Jackie wasn’t. Don’t ever compare your self to Jackie Kennedy Onassis.
Looking for part 6? If u want more videos on this search Pam Smart remembers husband's murder.... it's by ABC as well
The movie “To Die For” was taken from this......a greattttt movie
That movie was ass lmao the made for tv movie was way better then that lol
Shes so obviously guilty... like are you kidding me.. she might've had a fighting chance had she not completely blown her cover while cecelia was on the wire....
Exactly
True: if she had admitted during the Trial, or come to her senses in prison, particularly early on, she could possibly have been or be in a position to be released; that honesty & humility would give the 2 degrees she's earned while locked up that much more merit; but her ego is in the way
Obviously I feel bad mostly for Gregg smart and his family but I also feel sorry for those young boys.
You feel sorry for the young boys who mercilessly murdered Greg as he begged for his life, served lenient prison sentences, and are now free to live their lives? Yeah, that makes sense.
@@michaelcaballero1937 People seem to talk about them as if they were innocent 6 year olds who didnt know what they were doing or something
Wow youd feel sorry for punks whoed kill a man for 500 bucks??
If she doesn’t know who killed her husband, how does she not know someone from Atlantic City killed him? 🤔 💭
Good point! Pam's little comments she makes like this isn't the flex she thinks it is.
Should have rolled with that story.
I'm watching this story on REELZ, and I can't believe Pamela still insists on being seen as an innocent party. Billy Flynn is a free man now but he lost his youth in prison. I do feel sorry for him but not more than poor Gregg. I hope Billy has truly traded his sin for a more honorable life. He might not ever have real inner peace.
Oh, I'd wager my life that Billy Flynn lives with this tragedy EVERY minute of his life. It's a shame that this stupid self centered girl ruined so many lives. She's where she belongs. I saw Bill on the stand during the trial. He was VERY remorseful. We humans, especially when we're his age have a way of turning away from negative things. The prosecutor went to Flynn's parole hearings and stuck up for him. He said, verbatim...at his age, his hormones were probably running wild, here she is throwing herself at Flynn, now she's threatening to stop it all unless he does this awful deed. There would have been nothing he would not have done for her to keep that relationship going. She had her hooks into this kid's psych so bad. I saw the interview with Flynn and the prosecutor and Flynn told it all. He did serve 25 years. That's a LONG time. So did the other boy. The getaway car boy served, I think ten. I sincerely believe that Flynn, after it happened and before the trial felt remorse. I mean, Pam actually had to ask those boys how she should react to finding Gregg???? Wow, that tells me she never had a bad day. She should have came to me. I could have given her a serious run down of how.
He has to live with it. I don't know how he sleeps at night.
It's weird seeing the condos still. I grocery shopped across the street(where they parked) every week. It was eerie each time.
Ive seen them. All I can think of how much trouble would go on in a place like that back when rent was cheap and any old trashy people nonchalantly lived there. Cheating, gossip etc. Now those places are expensive and its a more closed off community..I dont think theres much shenanigans these days.
I don’t get why if a woman takes advantage of a young man it’s “an affair,” if it’s the other way around the narrative would be much different.
Exactly!
Yeah he d walk free like buttafucco.
Did you notice she s still in prison while buttafucco has married and divorced his wife's shooter?
Yep they call it rape when it’s the other way around
@@shuyuantang5331 ugh it's called tape this way too genius
So, if you don't make $10k a month like everybody else, and can't afford cable, they don't let you watch the end of the story. Again and again and again PUNISHED for being broke. Thanks ABC, for reminding me that without money, I don't deserve any semblance of happiness...
Ur not the only one...unfortunately I don't hv much $ either..i don't hv cable
AND it’s free there is however ads
life is what you make of it...
I want to know what Pam did when she found out Eddie Van Halen died...she probably cried more for him then she did her own husband.....
Full version on Hulu....
I hope the person responsible for uploading videos will see this. What is wrong with you that your not able to upload the conclusion to segments. This story is not the only one you've done this with. If your going to upload stories please upload entire story. Geez!
YEAH!! What she said!
I think they do it deliberately. First they generate revenue for ads on each segment, then they try to force people to pay to watch the last part of the “series” through the ABC app.
@@lauranorwar I am do dumb I buy into watching these part 1 things only to get duped!
Um I think you forgot to add part 6 I know this old case well but what a waste of time ,missing parts and all. Thanks a lot ABC.
Click the link in the description
God it's so annoying 20/20 doesn't post these in order!😡
ABC News this is soooo not cool! Give us part 6!
I don't understand why ABC is giving this murderer a platform? She's never getting out of prison.
SoCal Indi True, but they know a lot of us are...stuck watching her train wreck of a life on repeat.
And yet your here watching it
murderess
Watch the full thing on Hulu... somehow I always fall for this trap. Thanks ABC! 👀
He looks like George Harrison in his interview.
He sort of does
I watched the entire episode... they were all young and foolish. She can yell her innocence from the rooftops for years but she is most definitely guilty of orchestrating the entire thing. She doesn’t deserve to get out on parole... especially because she has yet to take accountability and admit her guilt.
And that's exactly when she isn't getting out.
@@margaretstechly7144 lol even if she did her sentence was without possibility of parole to begin with
so where is the last episode
She ruined those kids lives she deserves a lot more!
Atop watching these after i notice they never upload the whole story
Ya I know. I'm so mad right now!
Full version is on HULU, ya I hate when they do this 🙄
@@aleutianisland thanks I thought I found it but nope
Yup, they do it every time and I still fall for it every damn time!
She compares herself to Mrs. Kennedy??!! The effrontery!!! Sheer lunacy!!!
Sad story 😢
Both of them are just as bad. Husband and wife should have never married.
Just as bad? Greg didn’t murder Pam, did he?? So....no. They’re not just as bad as each other.
wheres part 6?
How do I get episode 6?
This was so sensationalized that the truth was buried.
“And I’m gonna be busted”…yet she says she’s innocent! 😡
where is part 6? why not just show it!
Comparing her self to Jackie Kennedy..what a joke..Anyone could see that Jackie was distraught and had been crying her heart out,you could se it on her face..That's what kind of psycho, Pam is. Then to say it couldn't have happened at a better time...the death of Greg..OMG..she's out of her mind.
16 or not. Raging hormones or not. They are/were old enough to know better and are {or should be} responsible for their OWN Actions'. She got life as deserved. So should they. It's disgusting to have any of them be released.
They were brainwashed
Pam have a relationship with Billy who was a minor do you what a pedo out on the street. The reason why the boys got out is because they make a deal to put pam in prison
I have tried to hard to find that episode with diane Sawyer and Billy flynn as a teenager and it's literally no where can someone point me in the right direction?
Is it just me or does Pam Smart's husband look like the guy from News Radio?
Hate listening to sociopaths.
She's had years to come up with an answer to every scenario that comes up. Who would say in an interview that "there was never a better time for this to happen." My God, what kind of person would say that. She can walk out of prison when Greg Smart walks out of his grave.
The full episode is on Hulu.
I don't see anything critical of that by itself - pointing out speakers off the stands , that's something additional her eyes focused on.
Does anyone know what song plays at 5:27 ?
No ep 6
Before you bite my head off, I can't help thinking how much Billy sounds and looks like Timothee Chalamet. I could easily see him playing him.
I thought the exact same thing! seriously uncanny
who?
I'm pretty sure Jackie Kennedy cried.....
Jackie did shed a tear Pam. She wept.Find the footage. You got the time.
No wonder she is still in jail. No remorse whatsoever and still lying. She is still all about, me me me.
Did she really describe the crime scene in Explicit details? Or just a Presumptive statement., like: I bet everything in my house is messed up? or was there a Specific object described that she could'nt see? These are Critical questions for Discovery
Everybody takes grief in a different way
She confessed so hard on the recording... like every last little bit of info that she would need to confess to and make her 100 percent guilty. I dont get why it's still a discussion. With that tape. She knew details she couldn't know, separated herself completely from the murder talking about what's been stolen and having zero emotion
now there is an understatement
Too me at 15-16 years old we all knew what is good and bad,we can decide which way to go.Therefore they all deserve life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
Billy Flynn something about him is not right either.
She's just pure 😈
He was charming?????? for gods sake he was a 15 year old kid who looked scared of his own shadow then the interviewer says and your were vulnerable !!!! The ONLY person vulnerable here is this poor 15 year old being seduced by this adult who uses him and manipulates him into believing she was being beaten and ended to be saved ,she's. laying physcopath
Don't waste your time watching this they purposely left out PART 6 thanks ABC...
Nicole Kidman and Joaquin Phoenix in "To Die For." Has no one seen that movie and know that movie was based on this?? Everyone keeps talking about the Lifetime movie. Even dumb@$$ ABC.
That movie is fantastic. Buck Henry wrote it, I believe, and did Gus van Sant direct?
Part 6
Bad blood! I’ve watched the whole story last year
She should be in prison, she coerced a young man to kill her husband with the idea that they could be together. She is ultimately responsible for the murder. Billy was the poor kid that was groomed into doing it.
Guilty then, guilty now.
anyone else thinks Billy' s gorgeous??
Ummm no..
@@stepcollazo8134 umm you a dude?
@@julie4evert490 no i guess hes not my taste..at all..
@@valeriewise9903 Kinda feel weird about it though..lol
don't see it
I’ve seen/read a lot on this case, including the nearly 2+ hour docu-series on Investigation Discovery. Why was this special made ABC? You had nothing to add to the story.
This story has been beat to death. Don’t get me wrong, if this is your first time hearing about Pam Smart, this is an interesting case. But there’s just nothing new here.
Where's part 6? Please stop making us search for all the parts. Just let it play. Add commercials every 10 minutes if you must
Something is up with the interviewer too. When he claims that the call came to him, he looks down and acts as if he knows he’s lying.
I’m not saying she’s innocent but the media tends to attack who they want to be the murderer and guilty party. For once there needs to be a show just based on facts. No music to try and persuade you, no interviewers trying to persuade. Just talking with facts to allow the viewer to decide.
Where is part 6 ?
I think shes denied it so much that she now believes it and expects us too
She may have gitten what she desrevd its indefensible ok? But why didnt buttafcko get prison ? He actually married amy for a while later . If he had not know what she was going to do, he wiuld have feared her . And he did not... give pam a ahit at parole afte 30 years or gi change him. The misogyny is sickening. ( so was her crime btw ) . Its been over thirty years and she was snot much older than they were either . She s had over thorty years and dgottend egrees . Its time to parole her and also to arrest buttafcuko
shes saying it couldnt have happened at a “better” time cuz there is no better time for someone to die
To Die For starring Nicole Kidman and Joaquin Phoenix was based on this story
Bill Flynn... clapping his hands on the way into court.....Most people would be like a statue... frozen in remorse
Jackie O probably cried when her husband was killed but at the funeral she just held a straight face.
I'm going to unsubscribe because you don't upload the entire thing.
they will survive
what happened then? Why don't you finish the story and give a closure?
William Flynn was a victim I know people don't like to use this word lightly but come on guys she was the adult who had the first and final word ! You remember being young and looking up to adults and wanting to be and act cool to fit in because you didn't want to be talked to like a child believe that you understand more than you really did. This was Billy's first sexual experience and he thought that she loved him and he loved her, all Billy wanted to be is liked and that made him an easy target. He was used as a tool to take out her hatred because of her cheating husband it's pretty clear to see that and she found a dumb kid to manipulate! 😥😱💯👈
She also told him Greg abused her
WE ALL KNOW JACKIE NEVER SHOT HER HUSBAND
OR DID SHE???
😮😮😮😮
Part 6??!?
Search Pam smart. Abc put more on it under diff description
The channel Dreading played the whole orange juice commercial and I will never forgive them 😅
5:27 song name plzzzz
She compared herself to Jackie Kennedy ??? Omg
Where's the next episode
They never upload full 20/20 episodes. Kind of a dick move on their part.
Lol I came here for this comment. This is why I stopped watching these videos. There is never an ending... They getting them views up
Our OCD angst gives them great pleasure.
It's on hulu. I hate that they give little parts.
@@toshathebeautiful8389 ❤👀👀
She actually didn’t do it. Check this out : ruclips.net/video/1tvMp9_N2Aw/видео.html
ABC, yall a bunch of misers holding out the last eight minutes of a series. You get ad money, give us our closure.