Beautiful screen, but NI saying they won’t update this to integrate with Maschine sucks. I am pondering buying a Maschine and would love this keyboard. But the fact it’ll just be a generic midi controller and that screen will go to waste sucks. Also no pads on a $750+ keyboard is kinda crazy
What integration do you need. Maschine usually plays well with their keyboards. I have Maschine mk3 and an A61 and I can trigger Maschine notes from my A61. Pretty sure you could do the converse if you setup the Midi correctly. I use logic too but usually just Maschine s/w when working in the NI framework.
So can you use the knobs to control a logic stick plug in? Like have it control a filter knob or oscillators or something like that? Or are all the controls strictly for native instruments
Any VST that supports NKS2 can be controlled via the keyboard’s knobs without having to map (Arturia for example). Unfortunately, Logic stock instruments require mapping. However, NI seems to have strong developer relations with Apple so who knows what could happen in the future?
This is a MIDI controller which cannot yet make custom templates. You are stuck with just the one 'default' template. You also cannot send MIDI from the MIDI out socket when the USB is connected to a computer. Not only that, but you cannot change the MIDI channel from the hardware. None of the helper scale, chord arp function operate outside Komplete Kontrol. Nearly all functionality is locked to the NI software.
Thank you for your insight. I am considering this keyboard to start producing music. Would you recommend anything else I look at that would offer a better user experience if using primarily Ableton and a mix of built in and third party instruments?
Maschine is not going away. It is still being developed and supported. NI is taking a new direction with these keyboards. Right now, if you want Maschine integration you need to get the MK2 which will still be supported indefinitely@@JayBee6801
Yeah - just grab a Maschine Micro Mk3 and you get the best of both worlds - Pads and a capable keyboard. No need to go fully fledged with Maschine Mk3 unless you are a beat producer - per say and you like the Maschine software environment. I would assume one can do similar slicing etc with the keyboard with the controls given and the screen it has.
Besides everything related to NI vsts, can i control anything like samples or sound banks from other vsts using the keys? or assign different effects like external reverb etc to the knobs?
Just got my s61 today, it seems that whenever I load a new instance of Kontakt I have to go to file> and then select the S61 to display it on the board Is there a way to do this without having to click each time?
pretty good outlook BUT we can't play marvels what if with companies trying to make money off us but if this thing will take up some work load away from my pc then that alone sounds great i got the mk2 yet to even have opneed it so might just trade it and pay a little more for this
@@sentienceinfluxthis idiot keeps calling everyone who likes or has any praise whatsoever for NI a shill. If we use his logic he comes across as an AKAI shill.
@@sentienceinflux Yea you are. Lol “get an MPK” at least they map to daws, have pads, faders and other controls to, oh I dunno, actually control your daw? I started with NI, over a decade ago, I’ve been making music for a long time. You sound new, or you’re a shill. Because every comment you make is an insult to people who actually know what they are talking about.
I'm sure the keyboard is independent of the MAC, so your MAC simply needs to be compatible with whatever DAW and Komplete Kontrol software, etc you would normally use. It means the keyboard is now a CONTROLLER for NKS instruments and plug-ins.
How to download Logic Pro I find it interesting to watch your videos making music I am in south africa 🇿🇦 Can you please tell me instructions of how to get it
Why is aftertouch such a big deal. I used to use the Cheetah MS6 controlled by an entry-level Kawai K1.The keyboard looks nice, but is not moving music forward.
It's one of those things where some love it and some don't really care. It adds an extra layer to a performance but some just like to automate in their DAW. Really up to the artist
My bro can you please give me instructions on how to get logic pro because I have been trying to download it on my Meccer brand pc/laptop but I find it difficult Please share an easiest way to download it I am in south africa 🇿🇦 I felt nice to see this guy making music I know on that app studio
Komplete Kontrol is absolute piece of trash. I paid $600 for the upgrade and still get the same piece of SHT ! I cannot read the screen, fonts super tiny, dar on darker bgnd. This interface was really buit by some idiot ! THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMPLAING OBOUT NI PRODUCTS READABILITY - Espeially Kontakt and Komplete Kontrol. Kontakt finally got the zoom but KK does not and it drives me nuts !
Help me understand. This thing costs $749 and still requires a computer in order to do anything? The Yamaha MX49, which can still be connected to a computer for MIDI, is now selling for $519 at Sweetwater and can operate on its own. (You would need an amp, headphones, or external speakers, but you won't need a computer.) The Roland Go: Keys 5 is $499 and even has built-in speakers to go with its fantastic built-in sounds. And, guess what -- it can be connected to a computer as well. It has an additional octave of keys and can be operated on batteries if necessary if you want to perform in a place with no place to plug in. I know this thing looks kind of slick, but it doesn't seem like a great value. If I am buying something that is just a MIDI controller, I would expect it to be cheap as chips. There are 49-key MIDI controllers for $150 or so.
you know what? I'm living that dilemma right now, I am saving up to buy one of those, than I see all those synths that are midi controllers and stand alone. I really don't know what to do, as I am a native instruments user and I have most of their plug-ins and it would be amazing to be able to control them that easily other than be able to tweak my DAW mixer and transport controls!!! other than having the guiding lights to help me out with scales etc.. on top of that it looks sexy! I am suffering! ahahah HELP!
None of the Yamaha or Roland keys you mention have DAW Kontrol (Logic, Ableton, etc). Only basic midi - sending notes. No control over NI Komplete instruments, sounds or FX. No other keyboards have polyphonic aftertouch. Now….if none of that matters to you, no worries. As a composer I need all those controls and integration in my studio to be effective. Hope that helps.
Horrible ergonomics. Why would they put the next page button that high up, it should be below the 8 knobs. When you have thousands of patches, you're gonna spend a lot of time going navigating them i.e. prev and next.
Got to love that after touch controlling the filter. Kraftwerk inspired perhaps?
Beautiful screen, but NI saying they won’t update this to integrate with Maschine sucks. I am pondering buying a Maschine and would love this keyboard. But the fact it’ll just be a generic midi controller and that screen will go to waste sucks. Also no pads on a $750+ keyboard is kinda crazy
What integration do you need. Maschine usually plays well with their keyboards. I have Maschine mk3 and an A61 and I can trigger Maschine notes from my A61. Pretty sure you could do the converse if you setup the Midi correctly. I use logic too but usually just Maschine s/w when working in the NI framework.
I like that keyboard without any drum pads. The clean, minimal look is super cool.
One bonus of that no-pads layout is it gives you some real estate to place your mouse; otherwise you have to put it somewhere way out wide.
Add Maschine to your setup and you have everything. Maschine is a great instrument but it is deep and you really need to take time to learn it!
So can you use the knobs to control a logic stick plug in? Like have it control a filter knob or oscillators or something like that? Or are all the controls strictly for native instruments
This man asking the important questions
You can use it the button and encoders to control anything in MIDI mode and map out things quickly that way.
Any VST that supports NKS2 can be controlled via the keyboard’s knobs without having to map (Arturia for example). Unfortunately, Logic stock instruments require mapping. However, NI seems to have strong developer relations with Apple so who knows what could happen in the future?
Seems that they’ve integrated a lot of Maschine Mk3 into this. Nice.
What it can be.. Been hearing a lot of that lately. I will wait. Until it becomes what it could be someday.
This is a MIDI controller which cannot yet make custom templates. You are stuck with just the one 'default' template. You also cannot send MIDI from the MIDI out socket when the USB is connected to a computer. Not only that, but you cannot change the MIDI channel from the hardware.
None of the helper scale, chord arp function operate outside Komplete Kontrol. Nearly all functionality is locked to the NI software.
Thank you for your insight. I am considering this keyboard to start producing music. Would you recommend anything else I look at that would offer a better user experience if using primarily Ableton and a mix of built in and third party instruments?
@@quantum_m3chan1c Neither. Try rephrasing your questions to be less leading.
@@r0tekz Thank you, i re-wrote my original comment. cheers
@@quantum_m3chan1c I only have this controller, and cannot comment on any others, sorry. Try asking on Gearspace forums.
Unfortunately, NI have confirmed that Maschine support is not planned for the Kontrol series keyboards.
Are they planning to do away with Maschine software? If not why not have support on keyboards.
Maschine is not going away. It is still being developed and supported. NI is taking a new direction with these keyboards. Right now, if you want Maschine integration you need to get the MK2 which will still be supported indefinitely@@JayBee6801
@@JayBee6801according to them nobody used it
and they were right lol @@nsp932
gained a follow...need a short vid explainin how to use it...n you delivered
Is there a video that truly teaches people who might be, say, old and fairly stupid?
No chance of pads in the future. NI sells Maschine as a separate device, and are not likely to abandon that sales strategy and revenue.
Yeah - just grab a Maschine Micro Mk3 and you get the best of both worlds - Pads and a capable keyboard. No need to go fully fledged with Maschine Mk3 unless you are a beat producer - per say and you like the Maschine software environment. I would assume one can do similar slicing etc with the keyboard with the controls given and the screen it has.
Where’s the 8 months later review? Interested in the thoughts of all the RUclipsrs. Thanks…
Daaaaamn looks really dope
dud e I need some help I just bought this thing and when I open Kontakt on my computer it doesn't show up on my keyboards screen. any ideas?
i want this keyboard baddd
I wish they would make 37 key version of them. It be too smooth! It be one of their most out brought controller.
Can this keyboard be used as a standalone DAWless ?
I want this bad boy! 🙏
Besides everything related to NI vsts, can i control anything like samples or sound banks from other vsts using the keys? or assign different effects like external reverb etc to the knobs?
A Logic controller would be nice😉
My bro can you give me instructions on how can I download Logic Pro 🤔
Just got my s61 today, it seems that whenever I load a new instance of Kontakt I have to go to file> and then select the S61 to display it on the board Is there a way to do this without having to click each time?
pretty good outlook BUT we can't play marvels what if with companies trying to make money off us but if this thing will take up some work load away from my pc then that alone sounds great i got the mk2 yet to even have opneed it so might just trade it and pay a little more for this
I would've loved to see some pads as well.
They probably got another maschine coming down the pipeline soon for pads, hombre.
@@sentienceinfluxThat’s not the point. Every other company including akai has pads on their controller. Why are you shilling for ni?
@@MyNameJeff.. I’m not shilling for NI. If you don’t like the controller don’t buy it. Get an MPK or something.
@@sentienceinfluxthis idiot keeps calling everyone who likes or has any praise whatsoever for NI a shill. If we use his logic he comes across as an AKAI shill.
@@sentienceinflux Yea you are. Lol “get an MPK” at least they map to daws, have pads, faders and other controls to, oh I dunno, actually control your daw? I started with NI, over a decade ago, I’ve been making music for a long time. You sound new, or you’re a shill. Because every comment you make is an insult to people who actually know what they are talking about.
This wpould actualy slow down my work flow as far as Kontakt Goes
What year Mac do u need to be compatible with this keyboard?!
I'm sure the keyboard is independent of the MAC, so your MAC simply needs to be compatible with whatever DAW and Komplete Kontrol software, etc you would normally use. It means the keyboard is now a CONTROLLER for NKS instruments and plug-ins.
Eight drum pads would've been ideal. Looks great, but this isn't enough.
Eight pads would have been perfect and it least gives you the flexibility to play with some pads
no! get urself an mpc
@@vor946We need MPC to have standalone 3rd party plugin access like a version of Komplete, Imagine that?
How to download Logic Pro
I find it interesting to watch your videos making music I am in south africa 🇿🇦
Can you please tell me instructions of how to get it
It’s in the App Store if you haven’t figured it out yet. Or Apple site
🤘🏼🤍🤍🤍 keep going.
Why is aftertouch such a big deal. I used to use the Cheetah MS6 controlled by an entry-level Kawai K1.The keyboard looks nice, but is not moving music forward.
It's one of those things where some love it and some don't really care. It adds an extra layer to a performance but some just like to automate in their DAW. Really up to the artist
Is this machine compatible with Ableton ?
yes
It would be nice if they had DSP for all NKS ready plugins.. But I seriously doubt they’ll do that.
My bro can you please give me instructions on how to get logic pro because I have been trying to download it on my Meccer brand pc/laptop but I find it difficult
Please share an easiest way to download it I am in south africa 🇿🇦 I felt nice to see this guy making music I know on that app studio
@@QinisoSonqoba logic only works on Apple computers
@keithwalter506
Thanks my bro I will try to purchase one
Hopefully that will be the direction this keyboard is taking. Pull up any NKS plugin and have full control on your Kontrol keyboard.
@@imamusicmogul as long as that alleviates CPU usage by processing all NKS ready plugins on the controller UAD style.. If not, hard pass!
I skipped through this vid. Did Native Instruments give you this for free ?
How do you get early access? I don't mind paying.
It’s called free and shilling
Is it possible to use the (Komplete kontrol S) Play Assist feature with other VST plug-ins???
no not at the moment. It only works in Komplete Kontrol as it did before. Hoping that becomes a global feature with a firmware update
NI has confirmed that this is indeed planned for a future update near the end of the year.@@imamusicmogul
@@imamusicmogul Is there any other Midi's do have this feature ??
Komplete Kontrol is absolute piece of trash. I paid $600 for the upgrade and still get the same piece of SHT ! I cannot read the screen, fonts super tiny, dar on darker bgnd. This interface was really buit by some idiot !
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMPLAING OBOUT NI PRODUCTS READABILITY - Espeially Kontakt and Komplete Kontrol. Kontakt finally got the zoom but KK does not and it drives me nuts !
Help me understand. This thing costs $749 and still requires a computer in order to do anything?
The Yamaha MX49, which can still be connected to a computer for MIDI, is now selling for $519 at Sweetwater and can operate on its own. (You would need an amp, headphones, or external speakers, but you won't need a computer.)
The Roland Go: Keys 5 is $499 and even has built-in speakers to go with its fantastic built-in sounds. And, guess what -- it can be connected to a computer as well. It has an additional octave of keys and can be operated on batteries if necessary if you want to perform in a place with no place to plug in.
I know this thing looks kind of slick, but it doesn't seem like a great value.
If I am buying something that is just a MIDI controller, I would expect it to be cheap as chips. There are 49-key MIDI controllers for $150 or so.
you know what? I'm living that dilemma right now, I am saving up to buy one of those, than I see all those synths that are midi controllers and stand alone. I really don't know what to do, as I am a native instruments user and I have most of their plug-ins and it would be amazing to be able to control them that easily other than be able to tweak my DAW mixer and transport controls!!! other than having the guiding lights to help me out with scales etc.. on top of that it looks sexy! I am suffering! ahahah HELP!
None of the Yamaha or Roland keys you mention have DAW Kontrol (Logic, Ableton, etc). Only basic midi - sending notes. No control over NI Komplete instruments, sounds or FX. No other keyboards have polyphonic aftertouch. Now….if none of that matters to you, no worries. As a composer I need all those controls and integration in my studio to be effective. Hope that helps.
Horrible ergonomics. Why would they put the next page button that high up, it should be below the 8 knobs. When you have thousands of patches, you're gonna spend a lot of time going navigating them i.e. prev and next.
I really miss you when you don't upload videos. ♾️🤘🏼🤍