Thanks for watching everyone! I hope you enjoyed this odd little video, I plan on doing some more like it, not only for the Royal Navy but for other navies as well! Edit: The thumbnail is a photo of HMS Erebus in 1938, serving as a turret drill ship. The building under her 15 inch guns is a gym/recreation facility.
I love this channel, I could listen to stuff about warships for hours upon end, the Royal navy I think still makes some odd duck ships. Ships such as the t45 look wacko
Hahaha that explains the shed aft. Thanks for the video. I heard a little, about interesting submersibles constructed by the Regia Marina between the two wars, including a kind of sea bed crawling tank with tools on arms.
Not a bad video at all, though you are mistaken on the monitors with 18" guns. They weren't "testing" them, the 18" guns were moved to the monitors when taken off HMS Furious during her build and subsequent conversion to aircraft carrier.
@@tidaljunk I don't think I was very clear when I said that. I am fully aware of Furious's conversion and her gunnery trials with her aft 18 inch gun. The monitors tested the guns in actual combat, something that Furious never did. Again, I should have been more clear.
Fun fact: the Italian Navy had Regina Elena-class battleships which were the fastest pre-dreadnought battleships (actually faster than the Dreadnought), carried two main guns in single turrets and a large secondary battery. They were designed by Cuniberti, who was quite an influence of Fisher.
I was a junior seaman doing sea training in 1964 and remember seeing H.M.S. Roberts in the distance and being told it was a monitor. I wish I could have got a closer look at this bit of history. I am now knocking on for 77 years of age but I think she was in Devonport dockyard.
@@grahamwalker5693 Originally for Brazil and the RN was glad to have it - its 12 inch guns were the same size as 9 British battleships and 6 battlecruisers
Another interesting topic imo are the planned battleships of smaller/poorer nations like the Greek Vasilefs Konstantinos or the Spanish Reina Victoria Eugenia
"I have just been having a long talk with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He has agreed to our building light craft to any extent we can up to a light cruiser. The Chancellor did not say how big the light cruisers could be, so we will build two whoppers, with 15-inch guns, and speed enough to run any German light cruiser off the face of the ocean." They were also known as the Outrageous Class with individual ships known as Outrageous (Courageous), Spurious (Furious), and Curious (Glorious).
My father was on Erebus latter part of war. Took part in D-Day of Utah beach, in charge of a pom pom, stood down because of proximity to main armament use.
Much appreciated young man once again, I am watching this after England just beat Holland to reach the Final of the Euro 24 this Sunday vs Spain 🇪🇸 which is a wonderful way of rounding off this evening. Best wishes. 👏⚽️🏴🇪🇸
A great video on some of the lesser known RN vessels. I can't help but feel that Churchill was quite the scoundrel in his dealings with other nations in all of his capacities as a RN officer and as a politician. I've often wondered what monstrous battleships the Queen Elizabeth class battleships had they been armed with 18 inch guns. Thanks for another interesting video!
Odd ships -- US Atlanta-class AA cruisers, amphibious command-and-control ships of WWII, and Japanese amphibious assault ships of the same war. Japanese Army transport carriers, too.
Atalantas not odd, compare to Britissh Dido's. Both were the product of 2nd Naval London Treaty limiting cruiser size. US AGC's not odd, compare to British LSH's
With all the research you must have too do its a wonder you can manage 1 video a week let alone more especially with college as well... so thank you. 👍 Its always interesting when its something a little more unusual. Do you only cover up until the end of WW2? I only ask because i was thinking about a couple of ships post WW2. HMS Valiant or the carrier HMS Hermes of Falklands fame. Cheers 👍
I can definitely go beyond WW2, I think the farthest I've gone outside of WW2 is the Novorossiysk disaster. Also, thanks for the kind words! I've really got to stop making these videos so long, it's getting hard to produce them!
@@ImportantNavalHistory but the information you put together is amazing. Short or long video hum. But you're also reminding us of past history that had a major influence on navel ship designs for all countries.
The14 inch guns were from Bethlehem Steel in US and were supposed to be for a Greek battlecruiser being built in Germany. That was obviously not going to happen so the guns and mountings were sold to Britain. Because of the gun's origin, the four ships were originally given names of famous American Civil War officers, but the US protested this violated its neutrality so they were renamed
fast-forward decades later and the US names ships after a Brit(though legally under US constitution an American too) and an Australian ship…so they changed their minds 🤣
What was the name of that coastal monitor who had mock cottages on its decks with artillery hidden in it ? The idea being that the enemy would think that this was an innocent island, like many in the Irish Sea.
The monitors were not used to test the 18in 40cal guns, that was HMS Furious, they were used to allow the guns to be used after removal of the aft one from Furious, the forward turret was never fitted. Furious did fire this once.
the monitors are odd as they’re meant for bombardment yet named after a ship meant for ship-to-ship fighting…the namesake was never intended for anything but battling other ships
When it comes to odd battleships USS Mississippi rates mention if only because she was the only WW-I era dreadnought ever to have been armed with surface-to-air guided missiles.
Hi, an excellent, well researched, and contextual presentation of specialist ships. It is so irritating to see ill-considered criticism by armchair warriors of anything British, such as criticising the lack of armour protection of battlecruisers, or comparing ships to others built 30 years later. Thank you very much
My father told me a story a long time ago. Saying he served on a ship that he could walk around, which I thought was far fetched. He told me it was called HMS Roberts. After a bit of research this was the bulge in the hull he could walk on. This would be flooded to lower the ship so it was a stable platform to fire the guns.
Well, if you would like I have this video. HMS Roberts: The Last Big Gun Royal Navy Ship ruclips.net/video/fm0uRN3VoKA/видео.html I also have some books in the description in which you can read about your father’s ship. She truly was an amazing ship.
I have three ships for suggestions you already covered Furious because I was one of my top five so the three ships that are my favorite is USS S1 submarine HMS Dreadnought if you haven't done it And USS Cruiser Pennsylvania
@ImportantHistory thank you for replying. This was a hail Mary post! So these are all cold war vessels from 70' - 93' The ones I know little of in regards to dad, or the namesake. Torquay Londonderry Russell The more personally familiar to me, and some definite repeat offenders over 600 years or so. Avenger Intrepid Juno Scylla Achilles Devonshire Diomede You've earned a sub regardless, thanks for taking the time to look :)
Although not touched on here, I’ve read that Churchill’s rough handing of the Turks over the Agincourt, along with Germany opportunistically gifting the Turks the Goeben and Breslau, helped tipped the Ottomans into throwing their lot in with the central powers rather than the allies. If true it made retaining them a strategic blunder, and very expensive acquisitions for ships that ended up doing very little.
It feels rather to find an American who is 'fair' when it comes to the Royal Navy. I take it you are not a relative of Admiral King, who in my opinion should have been shot. He delayed the introduction of the convoy system because the Brits invented it. This cost the lives of many American, British and many others. Gawd we had some idiots (Mountbatten - Dieppe) but as usual you lot like to be the best.
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Thanks for watching everyone! I hope you enjoyed this odd little video, I plan on doing some more like it, not only for the Royal Navy but for other navies as well!
Edit: The thumbnail is a photo of HMS Erebus in 1938, serving as a turret drill ship. The building under her 15 inch guns is a gym/recreation facility.
I love this channel, I could listen to stuff about warships for hours upon end, the Royal navy I think still makes some odd duck ships. Ships such as the t45 look wacko
Hahaha that explains the shed aft. Thanks for the video.
I heard a little, about interesting submersibles constructed by the Regia Marina between the two wars, including a kind of sea bed crawling tank with tools on arms.
Not a bad video at all, though you are mistaken on the monitors with 18" guns. They weren't "testing" them, the 18" guns were moved to the monitors when taken off HMS Furious during her build and subsequent conversion to aircraft carrier.
@@tidaljunk I don't think I was very clear when I said that. I am fully aware of Furious's conversion and her gunnery trials with her aft 18 inch gun. The monitors tested the guns in actual combat, something that Furious never did. Again, I should have been more clear.
Great Video!!
Fun fact: the Italian Navy had Regina Elena-class battleships which were the fastest pre-dreadnought battleships (actually faster than the Dreadnought), carried two main guns in single turrets and a large secondary battery. They were designed by Cuniberti, who was quite an influence of Fisher.
Check out the Italian Faa di Bruno, a monitor and incredibly ugly
I was a junior seaman doing sea training in 1964 and remember seeing H.M.S. Roberts in the distance and being told it was a monitor. I wish I could have got a closer look at this bit of history. I am now knocking on for 77 years of age but I think she was in Devonport dockyard.
she was at Devonport and retired the next year
she was based in Devonport and retired the next year
1. Big gun Monitors.
2. "Courageous" class battle cruisers.
3. HMS Agincourt.
HMS Agincourt was being built for Turkey but it was taken by the gov for the RN who did not really want it due to the size of it guns
@@grahamwalker5693 Originally for Brazil and the RN was glad to have it - its 12 inch guns were the same size as 9 British battleships and 6 battlecruisers
For all their limitations, the Courageous sclass were handsome ships with a well-balanced appearance.
And a waste of money as until they were converted to carriers no ne could figure out what to do with them.
I have a video suggestion: hybrid battleships. Doesn't matter really which country but I'd prefer talking all of them at least on mention-level
Enjoy these videos. Well presented good info and quality narration. Thank you I'm glad I subbed!
Another interesting topic imo are the planned battleships of smaller/poorer nations like the Greek Vasilefs Konstantinos or the Spanish Reina Victoria Eugenia
And Brazil and Argentina who bought dreadnought too 😊
Great video, one of your best
"I have just been having a long talk with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He has agreed to our building light craft to any extent we can up to a light cruiser. The Chancellor did not say how big the light cruisers could be, so we will build two whoppers, with 15-inch guns, and speed enough to run any German light cruiser off the face of the ocean."
They were also known as the Outrageous Class with individual ships known as Outrageous (Courageous), Spurious (Furious), and Curious (Glorious).
@SennaAugustus Curious ( Glorious ) this ship wasn't later know as HMS Glorious the aircraft carrier in WW2. Sunk by the Germans.
My dad served on Erebus in Operations Neptune and Infatuate. Thanks for posting this video.
Well if you’re around for this Saturday, I’m posting a full video on Erebus!
My father was on Erebus latter part of war. Took part in D-Day of Utah beach, in charge of a pom pom, stood down because of proximity to main armament use.
Much appreciated young man once again, I am watching this after England just beat Holland to reach the Final of the Euro 24 this Sunday vs Spain 🇪🇸 which is a wonderful way of rounding off this evening. Best wishes. 👏⚽️🏴🇪🇸
It's coming home!
A great video on some of the lesser known RN vessels. I can't help but feel that Churchill was quite the scoundrel in his dealings with other nations in all of his capacities as a RN officer and as a politician. I've often wondered what monstrous battleships the Queen Elizabeth class battleships had they been armed with 18 inch guns. Thanks for another interesting video!
Odd ships -- US Atlanta-class AA cruisers, amphibious command-and-control ships of WWII, and Japanese amphibious assault ships of the same war. Japanese Army transport carriers, too.
Atalantas not odd, compare to Britissh Dido's. Both were the product of 2nd Naval London Treaty limiting cruiser size. US AGC's not odd, compare to British LSH's
The HMS CAPSIZED 🙈🙉
Loved it
8-15 One of the 3 ships modified to mount a 18 inch gun in a limited traverse mounting pointing to starboard.
With all the research you must have too do its a wonder you can manage 1 video a week let alone more especially with college as well... so thank you. 👍 Its always interesting when its something a little more unusual. Do you only cover up until the end of WW2? I only ask because i was thinking about a couple of ships post WW2. HMS Valiant or the carrier HMS Hermes of Falklands fame. Cheers 👍
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I can definitely go beyond WW2, I think the farthest I've gone outside of WW2 is the Novorossiysk disaster. Also, thanks for the kind words! I've really got to stop making these videos so long, it's getting hard to produce them!
@@ImportantNavalHistory but the information you put together is amazing. Short or long video hum.
But you're also reminding us of past history that had a major influence on navel ship designs for all countries.
The14 inch guns were from Bethlehem Steel in US and were supposed to be for a Greek battlecruiser being built in Germany. That was obviously not going to happen so the guns and mountings were sold to Britain. Because of the gun's origin, the four ships were originally given names of famous American Civil War officers, but the US protested this violated its neutrality so they were renamed
fast-forward decades later and the US names ships after a Brit(though legally under US constitution an American too) and an Australian ship…so they changed their minds 🤣
@@bostonrailfan2427 The US was at ear by then - big difference
@@ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il learn to type before spouting gibberish
@@bostonrailfan2427 FOAD
What was the name of that coastal monitor who had mock cottages on its decks with artillery hidden in it ?
The idea being that the enemy would think that this was an innocent island, like many in the Irish Sea.
Oohhhh, could you do a video on the Brazilian Monitor Parnaíba?
Also US Alaska class Large Cruiser
The monitors were not used to test the 18in 40cal guns, that was HMS Furious, they were used to allow the guns to be used after removal of the aft one from Furious, the forward turret was never fitted. Furious did fire this once.
the monitors are odd as they’re meant for bombardment yet named after a ship meant for ship-to-ship fighting…the namesake was never intended for anything but battling other ships
When it comes to odd battleships USS Mississippi rates mention if only because she was the only WW-I era dreadnought ever to have been armed with surface-to-air guided missiles.
Boom! This is what I'm talking about! Perfect recommendation, thank you!
But NOT as a battewagon, she had been modified as a gunnery trials and training ship
@@ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5ilbut was originally a battleship
@@bostonrailfan2427 So what?
@@ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il so you’re trying to evade the point because you shot your mouth off but got refuted by facts
Good film. TY. Ideas... How about HMS ZUBIAN (WW1). The joining of two WW! Tribals?? One bow section and one stern?
HMS Argus, the merchant aircraft carriers and the CAM ships.
Hi, an excellent, well researched, and contextual presentation of specialist ships. It is so irritating to see ill-considered criticism by armchair warriors of anything British, such as criticising the lack of armour protection of battlecruisers, or comparing ships to others built 30 years later. Thank you very much
I always thought the Courageous class had similar requirments to a high speed double monitor using a large cruiser hull optimized for shallow draft.
My father told me a story a long time ago. Saying he served on a ship that he could walk around, which I thought was far fetched. He told me it was called HMS Roberts. After a bit of research this was the bulge in the hull he could walk on. This would be flooded to lower the ship so it was a stable platform to fire the guns.
Well, if you would like I have this video. HMS Roberts: The Last Big Gun Royal Navy Ship
ruclips.net/video/fm0uRN3VoKA/видео.html
I also have some books in the description in which you can read about your father’s ship. She truly was an amazing ship.
I have three ships for suggestions
you already covered Furious because I was one of my top five
so the three ships that are my favorite is USS S1 submarine
HMS Dreadnought if you haven't done it
And USS Cruiser Pennsylvania
How about a full video on every historical namesake of the RN vessels my dad served on.
It's worth a shot.
Well, if you could provide a list, I can see what I can do!
@ImportantHistory thank you for replying. This was a hail Mary post!
So these are all cold war vessels from 70' - 93'
The ones I know little of in regards to dad, or the namesake.
Torquay
Londonderry
Russell
The more personally familiar to me, and some definite repeat offenders over 600 years or so.
Avenger
Intrepid
Juno
Scylla
Achilles
Devonshire
Diomede
You've earned a sub regardless, thanks for taking the time to look :)
How about USS Vesuvius?
Sounds quite interesting..👍👏📚
I can't imagine the French naming a ship the Agincourt.
How about h.n.a.s.albatross. That was a strange ship
Although not touched on here, I’ve read that Churchill’s rough handing of the Turks over the Agincourt, along with Germany opportunistically gifting the Turks the Goeben and Breslau, helped tipped the Ottomans into throwing their lot in with the central powers rather than the allies. If true it made retaining them a strategic blunder, and very expensive acquisitions for ships that ended up doing very little.
It feels rather to find an American who is 'fair' when it comes to the Royal Navy. I take it you are not a relative of Admiral King, who in my opinion should have been shot. He delayed the introduction of the convoy system because the Brits invented it. This cost the lives of many American, British and many others. Gawd we had some idiots (Mountbatten - Dieppe) but as usual you lot like to be the best.
spoken like a bitter, angry, ignorant kid.