Thank you all for watching! This was a really fun video to make! I do apologize if you hear any background noise, I live in a house with 5 other college age boys... Only so much I can do to mitigate noise while I'm recording.
you remain an enigma. Two years ago when your channel began, you mentioned a vacation, which likely puts you in N America, perhaps Commonwealth whose accented spoken delivery has no definite handle. A college boy with more years of study ahead. I had the same fascination for big warships as a pre-teen and onwards. Great work and always interesting viewing. Thanks
Thank you for doing what you do Buddy. I wasn’t bothered by any background noise, so you’re managing it well, and we do both appreciate and understand that predicament. You’re good with your regular viewers. Warspite!! What a legend. She, from Britain and the Enterprise from the USA, of all the wonderful museum and memorial ships that have been preserved…. are two that I will never understand why our government and society did not save!!!!!! 😭 Thanks for the video, I am a subscriber and have watched many of your videos. You do great work man. S_B
@hazchemel Bismark lovely tough as people who saw her in RN powerful menacing lovely lines I think you like old ugly ww1 outdated old tubs.🛳🛳🛳🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇬🇧🇩🇪
This was the Warspite Battleship that got me hooked on naval warships. I read about this episode at the battle of Jutland when I was still in primary school. She became my favorite battleship bar none. By the time I was old enough to join the military, I had built 3 models of Warspite. I am so gutted that she was not preserved as a museum ship. If any ship in the Royal Navy deserved that honor, it was Warspite. What career she had over two world wars. And she held the men and boys serving aboard her steel bosom, protecting them from harm. What an ignoble end for a great ship, to be broken up for scrap.
A really splendid, in depth account of HMS Warspite and her heroics at the Battle of Jutland. The amount of research you have done is so commendable. Why this great ship was scrapped at the end of her career and not kept as a museum ship is an absolute disgrace and and beyond belief.
Toronto Trivia: After the second war, 'Warspite' ran aground on the way to the breakers yard when the armed Empire classTugboat assigned to deliver her, lost her towline. That tug was later converted to a sailing ship and runs charters out of Toronto under the name 'Empire Sandy'.
I’m so looking forward to seeing this. I’ve been reading a lot up on the Warspite and time in service from what I’ve read, she earned 15 Battle honours the first one being at the Battle of Jutland and it is also said that the Warspite received a hit in the engine room that caused the rudder to jam which caused the ship to circle and apparently even though the problem was sorted, out it was never fully repaired. The ship kept the battle wound for the rest of her career.
I really enjoy how you capture the essence of the history. This is the clearest explanation of the battle ive heard. Thank you for explaining such a complex situation.
Warspite actually looks better than Hood, not as long and skinny..... more compact............. WOW what a hero ship, utterly brilliant.... I loved this video, very well done.
Warspite was a real lady! She was a warrior to that could scrap, and take punishment like a prize fighter!! She even absorbed a hit from cruse missile!! It’s very fitting that she left this world on her own terms!!
In the 2nd U-boat attack, Warspite tried to ram the U-boat, SM U-63, but the steering proved difficult because it was being done below decks using the reserve steering, and the guns couldn't depress low enough to shoot at them. After the battle, King George V chose Warspite to address the veterans, and also spent 2 hours looking at the repairs while being hurried by Beatty to finish and to get back to his flagship Lion for lunch. The King told Beatty, "I didn’t come here to have lunch with you. Let it wait!" The shielding of Warrior made national news, and the survivors were keen to reward Warspite's crew. "Take ‘em mates, you saved our lives. Take ‘em back, we didn’t save you. We couldn’t help chasing our tail. The helm was jammed!"
Who needs a rudder, Warspite crew would have preferred one. But Warspite was made of stern stuff and she absorbed the damage and brought her crew safely home, time and time again. Excellent video on a grand ship who served he country until the end of her career.
Thanks for another excellent video on the Battle of Jutland and HMS Warspite in particular. The possibilities for so many different outcomes for both navies to have come and gone in such a brief engagement I still find hard to comprehend competently. Looking forward to more on the fallout, both tactical and political, from this major engagement.
@@ImportantNavalHistory I agree wholeheartedly that an "aftermath of Jutland" video would be a logical next step. I'd love to hear your own observations as well as the strictly historical on overall battle. A little bit of "if I was in charge..." It's amazing how hindsight can always have 20/20 vision.
I know people will say she was worn out, beyond saving, the country was broke and the rest but of all British ships that should have been saved HMS Warspite would have been the one for me. Her history through both wars and the honours she received during her career should have saved her from the scrappers. Like HMS Victory I would have certainly visited her had she been made a museum ship and it saddens me that the country known for it's navy has no battleships left to visit in this country. I envy America in that respect, though I'm sure many of them would agree that like Warspite the scrapping of Enterprise should have been stopped. On the note that Warspite would have been too difficult to save because of her condition after WW2 I can somewhat understand, I can't forgive them scrapping Vanguard though when it was our last remaining battleship and having come too late for WW2 was still in good enough condition to be saved.
Totally agree with you. I do think had there been the political will, Warspite could have been saved. If they had the foresight, this could have been done. As far as the cost argument, how much money was being spent on developing Britains A bomb and continuing to maintain the empire? Cost became an excuse as so often post war in British politics. HMS Vanguard was very nearly saved but again, politics got in the way. No Royal Navy ship, not even HMS Victory, has had so much history and prestige than the Warspite. It should have been saved as a historical testament to Britains Navy in both world wars.
Interestingly, the gunnery practice seems to have worked, as Invincible's gunnery at Jutland was better than that of Beatty's ships, excluding Evan-Thomas' Queen Elizabeths. As for Warspite, the steering problems were never completely cured and continued to plague her for the rest of her career. At one point at the height of the war against Italy in WW2 she drifted out of control through the narrow strait Between Sicily and The Italian mainland!
The steering problems were a design issue, that's why it was never fixed, and the entire class were banned from turning sharply at high speed. Valiant and Malaya had their share of rudder troubles.
Naval signalling was still unreliable and confusing at this time, reliant on the wind to fly signal pennants sideways to the viewing ships, which was far from an exact science. There was even a misconception as to what the Nelson Touch was, which ended up 180 degrees from true, having it that strict obedience to the Flagship was paramount. To add to this, Beatty was a flash womaniser and snob who disliked Jellicoe and wanted his command, eventually undermining him post Jutland.
Two insignificant observations: #1). Based on Beatty's well-known tendency to throw caution to the wind and sail headlong into battle at the first sign of an enemy force(like a certain American WW2 admiral), maybe "Bull Beatty" would've been the optimal nickname for him(?) #2(Of even less significance):. I'm kinda questioning a claim made by the author of the book mentioned just after 1:51. What are the odds that sailors of 100+ years ago would use "giant robots chewing crow bars" to describe the sound of the crash? That sounds more like a 1950's - 2024 analogy.
I’ll look more into it, but I suspect the quote is from long after the incident. Massie is an excellent writer and I doubt he would use an unauthentic quote. Great pickup by you though!
Beatty is one of those officers like MacArthur where whenever you hear about him, he sounds like an overrated idiot. Evan Thomas sounds like an Imperial officer from Star Wars, meanwhile. A brainless robot.
2:06 this looks alot like like the rear of HSwMS gustaf v i dont know how i recongized it, but its not gustaf with that 3rd turret upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/HMS_Gustav_V.jpg
Thank you all for watching! This was a really fun video to make! I do apologize if you hear any background noise, I live in a house with 5 other college age boys... Only so much I can do to mitigate noise while I'm recording.
you remain an enigma. Two years ago when your channel began, you mentioned a vacation, which likely puts you in N America, perhaps Commonwealth whose accented spoken delivery has no definite handle. A college boy with more years of study ahead. I had the same fascination for big warships as a pre-teen and onwards. Great work and always interesting viewing. Thanks
Thank you for doing what you do Buddy. I wasn’t bothered by any background noise, so you’re managing it well, and we do both appreciate and understand that predicament. You’re good with your regular viewers.
Warspite!! What a legend. She, from Britain and the Enterprise from the USA, of all the wonderful museum and memorial ships that have been preserved…. are two that I will never understand why our government and society did not save!!!!!! 😭
Thanks for the video, I am a subscriber and have watched many of your videos. You do great work man.
S_B
You've done us a great service, thank you.
Some of us suspect that HMS Warspite may have been sentient, with her own will and destiny lol.
Rather look at bismark than that warspite just ugly.
@@thecurlew7403I think your spectacles are smudged.
@hazchemel Bismark lovely tough as people who saw her in RN powerful menacing lovely lines I think you like old ugly ww1 outdated old tubs.🛳🛳🛳🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇬🇧🇩🇪
@@thecurlew7403 I think you like goats 🐐
@@hazchemel And you tubs 😄😄🛥
This was the Warspite Battleship that got me hooked on naval warships. I read about this episode at the battle of Jutland when I was still in primary school. She became my favorite battleship bar none. By the time I was old enough to join the military, I had built 3 models of Warspite. I am so gutted that she was not preserved as a museum ship. If any ship in the Royal Navy deserved that honor, it was Warspite. What career she had over two world wars. And she held the men and boys serving aboard her steel bosom, protecting them from harm. What an ignoble end for a great ship, to be broken up for scrap.
The USS Enterprise (CV-6) sends her sympathies.
You two are spot on… these two ships were no-brainiers to be preserved…. It’s heartbreaking ❤️🩹
such a shame she wasn't made a museum ship, she'd have been a really outstanding example, having fought for 30 years., and fought HARD in WWI and WWII
A really splendid, in depth account of HMS Warspite and her heroics at the Battle of Jutland. The amount of research you have done is so commendable. Why this great ship was scrapped at the end of her career and not kept as a museum ship is an absolute disgrace and and beyond belief.
HMS Warspite should never have been scrapped. What a history she had, should have been saved for the nation.
yes exactly
Toronto Trivia: After the second war, 'Warspite' ran aground on the way to the breakers yard when the armed Empire classTugboat assigned to deliver her, lost her towline. That tug was later converted to a sailing ship and runs charters out of Toronto under the name 'Empire Sandy'.
I’m so looking forward to seeing this. I’ve been reading a lot up on the Warspite and time in service from what I’ve read, she earned 15 Battle honours the first one being at the Battle of Jutland and it is also said that the Warspite received a hit in the engine room that caused the rudder to jam which caused the ship to circle and apparently even though the problem was sorted, out it was never fully repaired. The ship kept the battle wound for the rest of her career.
Im glad you’re looking forward to it! It’s one of my favorite subjects I’ve covered so far, and yes, we will cover her battle scars :)
My dad served on her for a time during WW2.early 41 till mid 43. He said she was a lucky ship and knew what she was doing.
God bless Warspite and god save the King
Another superb upload Sir and I can’t thank you enough and look forward to seeing your future uploads. Best wishes 🇬🇧☘️🙏
I really enjoy how you capture the essence of the history. This is the clearest explanation of the battle ive heard. Thank you for explaining such a complex situation.
She should never have been scrapped. Great vid!
Warspite actually looks better than Hood, not as long and skinny..... more compact............. WOW what a hero ship, utterly brilliant.... I loved this video, very well done.
Warspite was a real lady! She was a warrior to that could scrap, and take punishment like a prize fighter!!
She even absorbed a hit from cruse missile!!
It’s very fitting that she left this world on her own terms!!
Fritz Xs were not Cruise Missiles though...they were simply rather primitive guided bombs
Legends, seemingly, just are built better! Long live this lady's life!
In the 2nd U-boat attack, Warspite tried to ram the U-boat, SM U-63, but the steering proved difficult because it was being done below decks using the reserve steering, and the guns couldn't depress low enough to shoot at them.
After the battle, King George V chose Warspite to address the veterans, and also spent 2 hours looking at the repairs while being hurried by Beatty to finish and to get back to his flagship Lion for lunch. The King told Beatty, "I didn’t come here to have lunch with you. Let it wait!"
The shielding of Warrior made national news, and the survivors were keen to reward Warspite's crew.
"Take ‘em mates, you saved our lives.
Take ‘em back, we didn’t save you.
We couldn’t help chasing our tail. The helm was jammed!"
Who needs a rudder, Warspite crew would have preferred one. But
Warspite was made of stern stuff and she absorbed the damage and brought her crew safely home, time and time again. Excellent video on a grand ship who served he country until the end of her career.
Thanks for another excellent video on the Battle of Jutland and HMS Warspite in particular. The possibilities for so many different outcomes for both navies to have come and gone in such a brief engagement I still find hard to comprehend competently. Looking forward to more on the fallout, both tactical and political, from this major engagement.
Thank you! I think an aftermath of Jutland video is probably the next step in my videos on Jutland. Maybe some more on Defence, Pommern, or Lützow?🤔
@@ImportantNavalHistory I agree wholeheartedly that an "aftermath of Jutland" video would be a logical next step. I'd love to hear your own observations as well as the strictly historical on overall battle. A little bit of "if I was in charge..." It's amazing how hindsight can always have 20/20 vision.
I know people will say she was worn out, beyond saving, the country was broke and the rest but of all British ships that should have been saved HMS Warspite would have been the one for me. Her history through both wars and the honours she received during her career should have saved her from the scrappers.
Like HMS Victory I would have certainly visited her had she been made a museum ship and it saddens me that the country known for it's navy has no battleships left to visit in this country. I envy America in that respect, though I'm sure many of them would agree that like Warspite the scrapping of Enterprise should have been stopped.
On the note that Warspite would have been too difficult to save because of her condition after WW2 I can somewhat understand, I can't forgive them scrapping Vanguard though when it was our last remaining battleship and having come too late for WW2 was still in good enough condition to be saved.
Totally agree with you. I do think had there been the political will, Warspite could have been saved. If they had the foresight, this could have been done. As far as the cost argument, how much money was being spent on developing Britains A bomb and continuing to maintain the empire? Cost became an excuse as so often post war in British politics.
HMS Vanguard was very nearly saved but again, politics got in the way. No Royal Navy ship, not even HMS Victory, has had so much history and prestige than the Warspite. It should have been saved as a historical testament to Britains Navy in both world wars.
this wouldn't be the only time that Warspite brought her crews home safely.
The War Corgi really took a beating while steaming in circles like a kitten chasing her tail.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Great video.
Fantastic indeed
Really informative and 'nail biting'. Many thanks.
Built a Airfix model of HMS Warspite back in the 70s. Your videos are up there with Drachinifel good work.
Brilliantly done.
Interestingly, the gunnery practice seems to have worked, as Invincible's gunnery at Jutland was better than that of Beatty's ships, excluding Evan-Thomas' Queen Elizabeths.
As for Warspite, the steering problems were never completely cured and continued to plague her for the rest of her career. At one point at the height of the war against Italy in WW2 she drifted out of control through the narrow strait Between Sicily and The Italian mainland!
The steering problems were a design issue, that's why it was never fixed, and the entire class were banned from turning sharply at high speed. Valiant and Malaya had their share of rudder troubles.
The idea that Evan-Thomas should have disregarded naval signalling protocol is ridiculous. He would have been court-martialled.
Sorry sir, but the message was misread. 😉
Tell that to Nelson!
Yes! Incredible.
Very well done!
I still think it was a crime that Warspite was scrapped, she should have been kept as a museum ship,, so sad.
Naval signalling was still unreliable and confusing at this time, reliant on the wind to fly signal pennants sideways to the viewing ships, which was far from an exact science. There was even a misconception as to what the Nelson Touch was, which ended up 180 degrees from true, having it that strict obedience to the Flagship was paramount. To add to this, Beatty was a flash womaniser and snob who disliked Jellicoe and wanted his command, eventually undermining him post Jutland.
looks great
nice one la 👍🏻🔥💯💪🏻
Two insignificant observations:
#1). Based on Beatty's well-known tendency to throw caution to the wind and sail headlong into battle at the first sign of an enemy force(like a certain American WW2 admiral), maybe "Bull Beatty" would've been the optimal nickname for him(?)
#2(Of even less significance):. I'm kinda questioning a claim made by the author of the book mentioned just after 1:51. What are the odds that sailors of 100+ years ago would use "giant robots chewing crow bars" to describe the sound of the crash? That sounds more like a 1950's - 2024 analogy.
Correct. The word robot was coined in 1920 from the slavonic word robota.
I’ll look more into it, but I suspect the quote is from long after the incident. Massie is an excellent writer and I doubt he would use an unauthentic quote. Great pickup by you though!
Hardly insignificant and appreciate your input my friend
Excellent
At Jutland, the HMS indefatigable was defatigablated.
" The battle cruiser formation was formidable."
No I don't think Formidable was there.
Sorry couldn't help myself.
manoeuvre.
Beatty is one of those officers like MacArthur where whenever you hear about him, he sounds like an overrated idiot. Evan Thomas sounds like an Imperial officer from Star Wars, meanwhile. A brainless robot.
Battle Cruiser = Boozer/Pub.
Rub a dub dub is pub
statt Plastik
2:06 this looks alot like like the rear of HSwMS gustaf v i dont know how i recongized it, but its not gustaf with that 3rd turret upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/HMS_Gustav_V.jpg
It's either KGV (1910), Orion Class, or possibly an Iron Duke class.