Claiming to be wise, they became fools,and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. - Romans 1:22-32
There are many evidences that lead to the Bible being true and Gods creation. Like historical evidemces like eyewitneses (12 Apostles). The Ashely Beds Phosophate that has many different kind of animal bones including Dinosaurs with human bones.
I know a lot of atheists who refuse to look at evidence. When they unleashed the experimental agent known as the Covid vaccine, the fda website said that they didn’t know if the efficacy would last longer than two months… yet people were coerced (a Nuremberg violation) by threat of job loss, for something that turned out not to work, and yet it’s still being pushed and few atheists I’ve presented to, are interested in evidence… they claim to have faith in the medical system. And refuse to look at any evidence contrary to the lies they’ve been told. They get triggered if their faith in pharmaceutical products is diminished. My entire in law family got their shots and got Covid… oh but it decreases the severity… is there evidence for that statement? No. Do they ask for evidence? No. Yeah, just Christians are the idiots who don’t require proof. Im not buying that BS.
What caused the universe? And was the cause an uncaused cause? If you were to give that a name, what would you call it? *Something that caused intelligible life* Ill let you come to your own conclusion
@@joe5959??? you are ignorant. There is something called science and the scientific process. That uses rational and then experiment the validity of the hypothesis. Religions are nothing more than a very poorly thought hypothesis that you were indoctrinated to believe in since you were a child. If you were born in a different family with a different religion, you would believe in that religion instead, but guess what, reality does not care in what culture you were raised. Your comment shows and proves how mentally lazy you really are.
@@joe5959You people always say such stupid shit instead of actually engaging with what was said. You're ignorant, and instead of denying that you started asking fucking moronic questions. The universe may be eternal, or may have come about from some natural cause, or sure it may have even been created, but of those options only the natural answer has evidence to support it. You used the word "cause" because you think it makes your god claim stronger, but it doesn't. If I drown in a lake, the cause of my death was water entering my lungs and making it impossible for me to breathe, and yet the water isn't intelligent, now is it? Your argument was pathetic, no one would come to the conclusion that a god exists just by reading your argument, and the best part is that even if you people could prove an intelligent mind created the universe, you'd be one tiny little fraction of a step closer to proving it was a god, or your specific god, or universe hopping pixies. Your argument wouldn't even prove the conclusion you're drawing.
@@Logiconfire??? the crusades, hitler was a devoted christian, israel and hamas, all the terrorists attacks. what nonsense are you talking about? I guess that is your belief.
@@lb7625He was. Is just that christians distanced themselves because of the backlash, and are trying to change history. But he was christian, oh well as christian as any politician can be 😂.
There is the morality without god if you can't admit that then your The fool without knowledge Fools take no pleasure in learning or understanding Just there emotions views Proverbs 18:2
I could not agree more! Religion has no place in government institutions, especially our schools, poisoning the minds of the upcoming generations with nonesense
He believes God doesn't exist even though it's not possible to prove that God doesn't exist & never will be. Therefore, it's an unscientific, faith based belief, but he'll mock those who take the opposite position. There's a better chance of finding evidence of existence of God than there ever will be of finding evidence of absence. Dawkins is in a belief/faith based state of mind too , he just doesn't refer to it as a religion. I think the only approach thats in line with scientific inquiry & the spirit of science would be to be agnostic, otherwise its belief & faith regardless of what side you fall on.
@@EastwoodFPS I agree. I have personal evidence of gods existence. Therefore I believe. One thing is certain aiming my thoughts and actions towards the principals of the Bible have improved my life in many ways.
@@IbadassI I didnt? Thank you for incorrectly assuming. Lets, for arguments sake, say I havent though. Please furnish some context that would make this IN ANY WAY ACCEPTABLE to a modern educated man? You have the floor...
@@IbadassI Who created God? And if your answer is God is eternal, youre just inserting a middle man. If God can be eternal, why cant the conditions which created the universe be? Oh, who created those conditions? Well who created god? Oh God is eternal? Well the conditions which created the universe are eternal. Your argument is easily falsifiable.
@@jknowstheway1462 My, my, what a wonderful conundrum it seems you have woven. Unfortunately any other condition/particle/thing, if it can be defined, means it has limits. Limited "things" cannot be around forever in the past if we exist. Because infinitely regressing backwards would mean nothing now would happen, like you discussing this thread for example, because the primordial past would be infinitely long. Therefore there has to be an undefinable "something" that has no limits would be a necessary being.
Is actually the opposite. Religion creates culture. And culture creates the environment that makes organised thought possible. Every city in the beginning was built around a church or holy place. University in Europe has its beginnings in monks. Those monks are the reason why we even have aristoteles. Because they transcriped his teachings in tomes. And he is the father of logic and systematic scientific thought in the west. Sorry but a dismissive white and black thinking is just the opposite of critical thinking. It's hypocritical.
@@biekgiek religion is a human universal that binds people together. It creates narrative structure which binds community's and create value structures. So yes it creates culture. One component of religion is the create of rituals. Rituals are habits of community that establish order in the community. By being believed to reflect a pattern that is outside of the community and reflect the very way reality is structured. Even in your worldview not people as such create religion. But is something that emerges in community through distrubuted cognition.
Exactly, this reminds me of what Voltaire reportedly once said, "Those who can convince you with absurdities, can convince you to commit atrocities." This applies to faith perfectly.
Don’t blame the material. Literally taking such expressions as true rather than as metaphor is due to the developmental stage that many humans are currently operating from. Spirituality begins when belief including the atheistic belief is dropped and one goes beyond thought and self to the depths.
@@ivanvincent7534 There's no such thing as an Atheistic belief, as Atheism stems from disbelief and skepticism more often than whatever else motivated the individual personally. And excuses wouldn't be needed if these religious texts didn't get so much wrong consistently. Even if believers were to all follow one religion, it still wouldn't work to show how that one is the truth as supported by verified credible good evidence. So, what is spirituality? On the surface, if there's any depth atall, it's a blanket term that covers over the unknown with a concept that's equally invalid. No different than a person who seen a UFO claims it was aliens from someplace else. The U in UFO means unidentified, as it isn't known and therefore cannot lead to, it's aliens as the first or best explanation for the sightings. As that would mean it's actually identified and confirmed as alien which has not been the case. 🤷🏼 How can you be so confident and comfortable being so wrong?
And yet Christians we’re the first to create a hospital Christians all around the world help people I see more Christian’s helping than atheists sure we’ve done some bad things but hasn’t everyone Stalin was an atheist does that mean every atheist is a communistic murdering maniac no
@@alexsass6539 rwanda, the most catholic nation on earth. Church instrumental in genocide.stalin trained as a priest and used his skills to slaughter 20 million people. Religion poisons everything
@@amishbhat3560 what is the name of the space it's exploding in to and how did it get there. And what non godly power created the universe that it was a ball that exploded. To me, there's two choices...either god created the universe or the universe created itself. Which would make it God, having required being sentient.
Every belief system, including atheism, has an unprovable epistemological axiom: something which when you boil down, can only be believed by faith. There were no witnesses at the origin of the universe, meaning you either need to believe by faith one of two things: matter has always existed, or matter spontaneously came into existence. Both theories violate laws of thermodynamics. If matter and energy has always existed, it would return to a state of chaos due to entropy. Since in this theory matter exists for an infinite amount of time, it has an infinite amount of time to unravel through entropy, meaning no order should exist. Additionally, nothing ever goes from chaos to order, always the other way around. The only exception being if an outside force, say, a God, arranged it into some form of order. If it came into existence spontaneously, it would need some outside force, say, a God, to initiate it, since matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Atheists take by faith the infinitesimally small chance that order can exist from chaos. Theists take by faith the words of God. Neither at their core are grounded by science. Both require some form of faith.
I am a staunch Christian and I agree with him. Blind, unexamined faith can lead to terribly destructive things. If you have no reason to believe something yet do, you are going to be much more likely to lash out at the challenge instead of think through it logically. This can be seen whenever you try to argue with a dumb person.
Same here devout Catholic and I absolutely agree with this statement. My only problem with Dawkins here is that he wrongly defines faith as believing in something without evidence. That is not at all the definition of faith especially in the Christian sense. Faith came from the Greek word pistus which meant trust. Believing in something with good reason.
Let me put this straight. Do you believe a human can be born without sperm being involved? If the answer is yes, it's called faith, and it is ignorance.
@@samuelblack4792 There is only good reason to have faith if you wrongly define reasoning though. Reason requires logic, and logic requires evidence. If you don't want to use proper logic and reason, that's okay, but don't claim reason or logic The faulty logic path for faith based thinking is circular. God is real therefore x reason for belief is true. Then x reason for belief is true therefore it proves God is real. The fault lies in using an illogical poorly reasoned conclusion of "God is real = true" with no evidence/premises and using that to fill out the rest of the logical premises and conclusions truth values of your faith without ever proving it is true, then using those truth values as the premises for the argument "God is real is true" when the only reason the premises can be true is if you already determined God is real If you really think you have good reason to believe in a God you are showing an incredible lack of logic and reasoning skills. NO IDEA can be sacred if you are using reason. This means that if you cannot back up your idea with any valid evidence, it should be discarded as not supported. And affirmative claims bear the burden of proof
Dawkins is not changing anybody. It’s just a debate. Somebody who truly believes in their faith will not be moved by the musings of a mortal who believes he’s qualified to talk about a matter he has no real understanding of.
Agreed.The blind evil perpetrated in the name of Islam has been a curse on the world. How many innocent people have been lost in the last 30 years alone?
@@joealyjim3029 as well as in the name of "Patria". M. Dawkins is the first I've heard mentioning patriotism together with religious faith. About time someone did.
Love how you select Islam but dont mentioned the hundred of millions colonised and murdered by European Christendom from Europe to Africa to the America’s. Millions upon millions Murdered and robbed but let me guess your historical knowledge goes as far back as 9:11 Muppet
@@Programm4r Calling atheists 'religious' is a trite argument. Right up there with telling ex christian atheists they were 'never really saved'. Whatever
That's why it must be forbidden to teach religion to little kids at school. They'll believe whatever comes out of the mouth of an adult they respect. And most of them will still believe it as adults
@@orlandocarrillo7132 Quite the opposite; all religions should be taught, without preference or favor. The trick isn’t to tell young people what to think, or what not to think, but rather HOW to think. Teach young people how to exercise skepticism, how to critically discern truth from fiction, and then present them with ALL forms of religious material. Unreasonable beliefs will lose their hold.
quite the opposite, no religion should be taught. What could be taught is the history of religions and that is something different. There the kids will learn among other things how for example the catholic church was always a tool and worked together with the rulers as a mafia in a pursuit of power and money. They would learn why people in the former european colonies (south america, africa) believe in god. Mainly because their ancestors were threatened to death if they didn't convert. That's different than teaching religion.
@@orlandocarrillo7132 they shouldn’t teach evolution theory either because it’s based off speculation and can never be proven however they teach it like it’s a fact and also with out religion u don’t have objective morality. Atheistic beliefs will lead to more crimes because there is nothing wrong with murder rape and other things religion has said and tought objectively as evil
@@briley2177 by doing that you'll prep them readily to embrace Islam. ;) you do not want to teach your kids how to think, and how to discern truth from fiction, this is a recipe for them embracing Islam.
Many years ago, a pastor tried to convert me and said have faith. I told him to sell his house and bet it on a horse. He said that he doesn't know anything about the horse and then I smiled.
Or its either the greatest story ever told OR its the truth. The beautiful thing is you get to decide. Just because someone is an intellectual doesn't make them right.
@@tabithawhitaker9273 take a serious look at history, and you'll see that no matter how "beautiful" the story told by religious representatives, the truth about any religious organisation is ugly. And part of it is how the faith is used to force people into set moulds, and to define a "us"+"them" dichotomy that not only tolerates, but actively promotes hate and discrimination.
@@agnesmetanomski6730 You are mistaken God for the problems of "man" and I completely identify with that. Listen its up to you to decide but you don't get to decide for others. In my opinion God is alive and well but you obviously feel differently. Its up to you! And because its popular or trendy to hate God i expect nothing less. ✌❤🙏
@@tabithawhitaker9273 Oh,, I have no problem letting others decide whether they want to believe in some God or not. But by your own words, ie. a person does not get to decide for others what they believe in, children should not have ANY contact with any form of religion until they're 18 and can decide for themselves. And the ones usually trying to shove their opinions down the throat of others are not the ones who do not adhere to any faith, but rather the ones that do.
Richard Dawkins is the person who coined the term "meme" to describe concepts that reproduce by transmission from one mind to another. The concept of faith is one which is pathogenic but successfully reproduces despite the harm it causes to its host organism.
We use faith everyday in our lives: using medicine because someone told us it'll heal us, eating food we didn't prepare etc all because we have faith in the person that told us to. Having faith is not only a Christian thing, it's a human thing
Actually from what I hear (not coming sure though) logos was one of the first words used for God. In other words, God is the logos that started the universe. Everyone seems to forget that sometimes religion and science can go hand in hand with each other.
King: Do what I say, I own you and everything in the kingdom, and I can do whatever I want! Subject: Why? King: Special dispensation of divine right. Religious person: I don’t have to use logic or pay you what we agreed upon. Rational person: Why not? Religious person: Special dispensation of divine right. Don’t expect others to tiptoe around you and your imaginary friend. That’s your thing. He doesn’t exist outside of you and your buddies’ heads.
@@deidara_8598 Indeed, watch the part where Dawkins explains how a closed mind cannot be rationalised with or course corrected. When people believe without doubt that God is with them they can commit evils without contrition.
Yeah but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a creator. I think John Lenex said something about God acting as a sort of "logos" that set the universe in motion.
It would not be evil if they keep it to themselves. The evil comes from using your faith to justify violent acts against others. People are free to wallow in their ignorance as long as they stay in their own sty.
Why is it.... that whenever I watch videos discussing or debating about religion, the non-believer is always the sincere and genuine one while the believer seems not. Could just be a coincidence but... That's how it appears to me. Like the Christopher Hitchens and William Lane Craig debate.
One person who guided me to leave my faith is this prophet Richard Dawkins in 2008. I am an ex-Muslim and leaving Islam is the best decision I ever made.
You don't have to accept my personal faith, but I also don't have to accept your denial of my personal faith. It is why these conversations really need never happen in the first place. What I do in private with my faith is my own biz and what you do in private with your atheism is yours.
It has more evidence than any other scientific field, mountains of it. Where did you go to school....Mars? The Theory of Evolution is based on nothing BUT evidence. That's how Theories are born...evidence.
Fools, if you buy this premise. We put faith in a hundred things every day without evidence, but these assumptions allow you to traverse your daily decision making and survive the world.
That's the thing - every day! We put faith in things that happen all the time, meaning it's very reasonable to believe they will continue to happen. Religions are not the same. They are founded on religious books which claim extraordinary events that allegedly happened once in the past and were written down. Are we supposed to believe those stories the same way we believe repetitive things of mundane life?
Exactly. Throughout history religion (especially Christianity) has been about blind faith. They only focused on what the Bible said and completely forgot about what Jesus said.
I think we need to change the word “faith” into “source: trust me bro”. I think people will catch on sooner why faith isn’t such a noble thing after all. I’d rather not know an answer to a question than to not being able to question an answer.
I totally agree with this man faith without evidence is blind faith and there is no such thing and if you do have blind faith then you are deluding yourself and those who follow you or living in a delusion State
The wrong thing you said was the word blind faith…blind faith is simply faith. Having faith is already being blind. Having faith is a delusion that was forcefully demanded and inspired by our ancient leaders in order to gain influence and power over its populations.
I think he is aware that everything associated with your religion is not evil. I imply that regard to the subject of faith in general too. He is making a logical arguement. Imagine having faith so great you force your kids into it. You could say it is evil. For example, if you get a kid to avoid all ungodly influences they will lack life experience. So much so they are more likely to make Earth, Hell. They will lack human bonds, life experience, they will have unhealthy sexual urges because they will lose their entire childhood to a god that you have faith in. I have watched it happen. Everything has consequences. Being willfully ignorant and ignoring the fact that faith is illogical can be evil and dangerous.
Based on the comments here, very few of you are capable of processing basic logic and have just completely proven Dawkins point by twisting it to fit you're own particular narratives. SMH How many comments here do not even fit with what he actually said. 😒
Dawkins left open the discussion concerning the nature of the "evidence" needed to support a theistic claim, dawkins is no philosopher, he attributes the words evil and good outside of their ontological sphere and there's no way an atheist can have a basic anchorage for morality, let alone a practical procedure in which we can prove the existence or non-existence of a supernatural being
Morality is most likely a mix of genetics and learned behavior with or without an explicit believe in gods. Morality is a form of sophisticated altruism, and altruism has evolved many many times in the animal kingdom. The world in which you live, where morality must come from religion, exists only between your ears.
@@09patrick22barnes95 primal consciousness is exhaustive of reality, not right or wrong, we could have solved excessive population rates if your version of impulse based morality was highly applied, we can just go back to my comment and see that i was only discussing the simple fact an atheist cannot objectively judge a moral value in hindsight, your definition of "genetics and learned behavior" morality is truely beneath my notice as it has no bases and no intrinsic purpose for all that matters, let me ask you a question you will most likely give the worst take on -what was the driving force (conceptual or impirical) that shaped human behavior and morality into the thing it is now? In other words why is it good to punish jack when he steals from john?
There is no way theists can anchor morality in God in any coherent or compelling way. Least of your problems on that front is that you can't actually demonstrate your god exits.
@@CyeOutsideri feel sorry that you got the two concepts of legitimacy and anchorage mixed up in your head, simply put, metaphysical truths are different to conceptual truths, conceptual truths are the product of talking several distinct elements into a unified whole, a metaphysical truth stands on it's own autonomously, so for you to suggest that the inability to demonstrate God (which is not true btw) can affect the sense of moral anchorage towards deity is plain pathetic
@@Philrc The way my church defines it is: "Trust that God is who He says He is, has done all that He's promised to do, and will do all that He's promised to do." My church vehemently argues against "blind faith", which is how the term faith is often used in typical speech. "My team is losing 50-0!" "Oh, just have faith!" This usage has grossly misinterpreted the meaning of it. The first definition I gave has two parts. 1) You must know who God says He is, and determine for yourself, given your life experiences, if God's character truly sounds accurate and real in the universe we live in. 2) You must know God's promises and determine if they have truly been upheld. For example, God promised Abraham to make him a father of all the nations, going so far as to say that his descendants would outnumber thr stars in the sky and the sand on the Earth. Look at today where we now have nearly 8 billion people alive, and that doesn't even include all the other people that have lived through history. If you know His character, and you find Him to be true to His promises, then you can have faith that He will do what He says He'll do. Like when a good, faithful friend says "I'll be there", you can count on them to show up. It's not a coin toss as to whether they will or not.
@@oddatsea9398 your church's definition is blind faith. What they are saying to you is believe in a god without any evidence of his existence. That is the only position that a religious person can have. none of you have any proof or have ever had any proof that there is a God at all. If you trust that there is a God on the basis of faith alone with no evidence which is your church's definition that is exactly the same as Dawkins definition and indeed of anybody's definition because it is the standard definition of religious faith. It's no good you going on at me or other people about what God Said and what he promised to us and what Abraham is going to do because all of those things and your belief in them come after the fact that you have blind faith in god's existence. You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever for any of the things that you believe. A person's belief that their football team may finally win is quite possibly based on far more evidence than you have for the existence of God. There may be all kinds of statistics and facts about the players and their stamina, style of playing etc etc which might lead a person to think that the team will eventually score more points.
@@Philrc Except, no, it's literally not blind faith. Here's the checklist detailed in case you missed it. 1) Read about His promises 2) Determine if those promises have been fulfilled, based off of your own life experiences. 3) Read about His character and actions 4) Determine if those characteristics and actions are evident in your life experiences. Even science follows a similar ruleset. 1) Hypothesize 2) Test and determine if results accurately reflect what was expected. Who drops a ball and expects it to go up? No one, because based on previous life experiences, we expect a dropped ball to fall down. I can logically prove God exists with a thought experiment. If I were a drawing in a flipbook, how would my 3D version interact with my universe (the flipbook)? Then I extrapolate that up so my 2D version becomes 3D and my 3D version becomes 4D. From this thought experiment, the fundamental, inmutable characteristics of God can be described. He would be omnipresent since He can span the entirety of the "flipbook". He would be omnipotent since He would essentially be the artist, able to draw and conjure up anything at His will. He would be omniscient since He would know the entire story of the flipbook from front the back since He drew it. He would be eternal since He exists out of our dimension of time. As stated previously, He knows the front and the back of the flipbook, the Creation and the Extinction of that universe. It'd be foolish from the artist's perspective for the drawing to deny the artist's existence. The artist created it, yet has no way of directly interjecting expect to add himself to the flipbook, like what God did when He took on flesh in the form of Jesus Christ. Other than a direct interjection like that, which still did not convince many of the people of his day, the artist would only be able to act, and from those actions, we can determine the artist's character. If the artist smites all blonde people, then we can determine the artist loathes blondes.
@@oddatsea9398 I don't need to read it you are kidding yourself . Your faith is entirely a matter of belief without evidence. And no science does not proceed in the same way at all it's actually becoming rather tiresome hearing you God botherer types constantly say this. The only reason you have some checklist that you think makes any sense at all is because you have blind faith that there is a God that the checklist applies to you have no evidence to think that, you just have faith that he exists.
He is wrong, evil is the indifference of those that know better. Faith and religion are built into the very aspect of what we are. Remove God, and you will simply fill it with something else; atheism, crossfit, veganism, etc.
Most people already do that with new movements but they are still wrong and its still the closest thing to what humans call evil. Which in itself does not actually exist either. Humans like to jump from one fictional hole and just fall into another.
You have only demonstrated that people have viewpoints. Faith is not built into me, it was taught to me. Now I reject faith, as it is not a consistent way to the truth. Multiple religions are a demonstration of that.
@@PersistentDissenter faith is something you believe It doesn't inherently mean you believe in the right thing What do you have faith in should be the question
@@ghosttheprogram6973 noun: faith 1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something. 2. strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. We are discussing theological faith. But with that in mind, I do not have complete trust or confidence in anything. I am a skeptic.
There is an obvious hole in his argument, or maybe he’s just wording it incorrectly, because most people who have faith and are religious are not believing in something without evidence. They deem the miraculous experiences they’ve had and their relationship with a higher being to be evidence. So it’s not that they believe in something without evidence, they believe they have seen more than enough evidence to believe in/have faith in it.
What miraculous experiences? There are zero miraculous occurrences. Finding your car keys isn't one, no. What "relationship with 'god'"?. A relationship with no communication? 'god' never speaks, never appears, never answers. No-one can tell you what 'god' looks like, sounds like, what gender, can't ask a direct question, can't get any direct answers, no-one purports to have any actual communication with 'god'. It's always some random, mundane occurrence that people suddenly espouse is a 'sign from 'god''. You are exactly the same as the people who identify as quad-gender, non-binary antelopes.
@@philscott3759 Hey Phil! I’d love to discuss this with you! Miraculous doesn’t always mean walking on water or coming back from death, it can be a multitude of things but finding your car keys is quite a weak argument to oppose. I completely understand why you’d be skeptical, and I don’t blame you at all! Why would anyone believe in God? It’s seems impossible for someone like that to exist so I completely understand where you’re coming from and I’m not trying to argue with you at all. When I said miraculous, I did not mean finding your car keys, I would say that is a straw man argument. What about the real life stories of people that actually exist who have been healed from disease when doctors said they had weeks to live? I personally know people who have experienced a multitude of happenings that I would deem as miraculous, and I myself have as well. They’re not always so obvious like being saved from a car crash or something but they are much more profound than that, they are not always a single instance but rather, a constant connection. Have you thought about the fact that maybe people can’t describe what God sounds like or looks like because someone as great as God would not be communicating in such human and earthly ways? That maybe the reason that science can’t explain God and that science can’t prove God exists is because if He could be proved by science then what would be so great about Him? I know you might say that there are many great and astounding things that can be proved by science but personally I think that if God was subject to science He would not be ‘God’. God must be greater than science and exists outside the laws and dimensions that we humans perceive. I know this might sound crazy and I don’t blame you if you think that. I do however feel that if you truly open yourself to God, and I mean truly genuinely and 100% open yourself to the possibility that God exists then it is impossible to not be confronted by Him. I believe that if you are willing, and really genuinely open your heart and mind and soul to God, and I mean genuinely, not in a way that you’re doing it just to prove that there isn’t a God, but if you genuinely open your heart to God, it is impossible to not feel and hear Him in ways that you feel and understand so deep in your soul that are profound beyond belief. I believe that Jesus is God and you’re free to say you disagree but personally I feel that I’ve experienced too many things to say otherwise. I’ve had periods where I didn’t believe there was a God at all and tried to live that way, but God always found me and spoke to me on a level that I can’t really articulate. If He wasn’t real, then I would have no problem saying that, and I have believed that at times and struggled with the illogical and unscientific nature of God but God is greater than Logic and Science. If He was bound by science and logic He would not be ‘God’. I personally have experienced too many ‘miraculous’ things in my life to say that He does not exist and by ‘miraculous’ I don’t only mean someone being healed from a disease or saved from a car crash but I mean the profound connection that goes right to my very soul and essence and being. Jesus, God, speaks to everyone in a different way. I’m glad to continue this discussion with you Phil, please feel free to say whatever you want. I pray that God speaks to you soon, in a way that only you can understand. Have a great day Phil!
The problem is that religious people have a different definition/standard of what constitutes evidence..and their gullible/indoctrinated selves think that scriptural dogma & faith suffice as evidence. You cannot reason with the vast majority of people of faith.
The universe is so organized and has so much pattern, there’s definitely more evidence *for* A higher power than against it. Atheism requires *way* more faith.
@@toughenupfluffy7294 you mean the natural state of elements that works against organization, aka: further evidence that an intelligence had to organize everything? 😂
@@Decadent_Descent I've realized with your comment that it is a glass half empty, glass half full view of the world. I can't make you see the billions of coincidences for Earth to be where and for it is.
The devil is an admirable figure he is like prometheus who was cursed for rebelling against the tyrannical god zeus who like yahweh was a rapist and murderer
Brainwashing. Religious people can’t quite grasp the fact that they’ve been brainwashed. Religious people are the perfect example of how brainwashing works. Brainwashing is not just about tricking the mind its about making you desire to believe what you’ve been taught is correct no matter what, no matter what logic says, no matter what the truth is, they’ve branded it under the disguise of having faith. Religions are proven to be ancient brainwashing tools used by past leaders to provide them influence and power over its population. “If you don’t do this in a certain way you will go to hell”, “If you don’t this do this in a certain way it’s a sin and god will find you punishment”. “If you do this in a certain way god will reward you”, “If you do this in a certain way god will save you”. its an almost perfect scheme. Today humans still create this brainwashing techniques but we don’t call it religion any longer and we don’t based it upon the fictional and the spiritual any longer. I know what you religion folks are thinking right now god will send people in your life to test your faith and you shall not cede to it you must keep believing, you must keep believing, you must keep believing always no matter what or god will find you punishment. Thats is one of the most impressive principles of brainwashing at its finest the people who created religion knew precisely what they were doing. Always prepare them for the inevitable confrontation with people who will speak truth to them that is one of the most important rules of brainwashing. It’s astonishing and terrifying at the same time. I know that the grand majority of religious people will chose to ignore and not take this statement to heart as it takes a ridiculous amount of mental strength, suffering and determination to undo brainwashing. Most individuals as an innate defense mechanism will never allow themselves to be subjugated to such process they will chose to ignore it like a kid would ignore a warning from their teacher. Because the truth of human kind is that as long as they feel happy and safe they will most of the time chose to ignore the truth. And thats why usually the ignorants are also the happiest but bottom line you are still living under a lie a safe delusion. But then you also understand why modern nations such as western countries, China, Russia and Japan and every country and society that doesn’t have its political and educational system attached to a fictional and old minded brainwashing scheme of centuries ago is so much more developed than countries whose education and politics is bound to religion such as most Muslim countries for example…Modern societies of today in the west, China, Russia, Japan and others of the sort its about innovation of ideas while others such as in the middle east it’s about preservation of ancient ideas. Muslim countries will always be far below the rest of the world in science, societal development and general quality of life as long as they don’t realize that religion was made to be appreciated and not followed blindly like a cult. You are only gonna push yourself down as long as you keep preserving ideas of centuries ago completely outdated for todays reality and needs. Innovation is the birth of new information and information is the source of power and there is barely to almost none of it in Muslim middle eastern countries pushed by their enforcement of religion in both politics and education.
Dawkins wakes up and he doesn't know that he will get to his job, because he could be hit by a car in the process, but he has faith that he will be there...
I don’t think that’s true. He defined faith as belief without evidence, but he certainly has evidence that he has successfully gotten to work safely many times. He knows enough about cars to know that there’s a chance he could be in an accident, but he also knows that the success rate of his current method of getting to work has a high chance of getting him there safely. He doesn’t have faith he will be there, he has evidence to support that it’s likely he will.
Are you saying that god’s will, more than your brain, is getting you to work? …OK, but God’s will also made you watch a Dawkins video establishing that faith is BS… Don’t you see a clear message here?
You can believe in something without evidence, but when you judge others and tell them you are wrong based on certain rules and codes of conduct and dress then we have a problem.
The problem with this is that sometimes you don't have enough information and the next fact could change your tune. That means that you could be wrong even if you choose the most apparently consistent heap of facts. Sometimes life demands a decision based on sub-optimal information, and that means you have to take a risk even if you don't have evidence. Navigating life isn't just about facts, it's about payoffs and avoiding scenarios or searching for specific scenarios and all of these require that you see past the facts and make decisions. And results matter a lot. Often more than the process to arive there. Life may not wait for you to weigh the facts for and against.
Dawkins makes a tremendous assumption that faith is "Belief without Evidence." He declares it to be evil, which is a judgement based on his faith in his own prejudices. Dawkins ignores all of the great advances born of the sciences born if the Catholic Church which taught that the world is a logical, understandable place that we can study and come closer to the Creator. He more sinisterly ignores that religion is not the source of horror he makes it out to be; but atheistic politics such as Naziism and, even worse, Marxisms' children: Communism and Socialism have racked up a far darker record in 105 years than religion has in the entire history of humanity on this globe.
Let him find out that we can't know it all. "The conscient observer" problem demonstrates that we can't reason everything in this world. So faith might be slightly more necessary than we think.
None of the scientific discoveries or theories facilitated by the Catholic Church relied on faith or God as a premise. Also, Nazim wasn't atheistic. It's well documented that Hitler, who may have been an atheist himself, nevertheless relied heavily on references to God and "the creator", both in his book and in his speeches. Also he tried to propagate a brand of Christianity that removed its reliance on Judaism and Jesus who was a Jew. Not to mention that all of the men and women who carried out the atrocities of the Holocaust were CHRISTIAN, not atheist. Do your reseach. While your at it, research how the murder of 6 million Jews by Hitler was the natural culmination of the atrocious treatment of jews in Christendom from the 12th Century onwards. The relentless murdering and raping of the Jewish people by Christians is a ghastly legacy the Christians today pretend doesn't exist. The extermination of the Jews by the Nazis was called "the Final Solution" for a reason. Also, if you racked up thr body count of religion in all human history you would get a figure that dwarfs any body count that would be attributed to athriesm. Fron the ghastly human sacrifices of the Ancient Aztec societies to the religious wars in Europe, the Crusades, Holocaust, and the death of thousands upon thousands in Africa from AIDS due to Catholic Doctrine, etc. That figure would shame every thiest trying to claim you need god to be moral.
Religion in itself is not bad; it's the way it goes through people's heads. Jesus taught love and forgiveness, and had no enemies, divine or not he was still the greatest human being to have ever lived.
The problem with Mr. Dawkins argument is that he has it totally backwards. The absence of faith in God is what allows men to do anything that comes to their imagination. Faith in God recognizes the creator and his influence over mankind that recognize him as their Savior and Lord.
@@stipe9k well many of the regimes that did the most horrific things in the 20th century were ether hostile or out right waged war against the religious in there nations. The soviets destroyed thousands of churches and mosques forbid open worship and encouraged its subjects to rat on anyone suspected of harbouring faith. The nazis made an attempt essentially towards the end to revitalise a new “pagan” religion specific to German people. Because they know that a strong Christian population would be a force they’d have to eventually come up against. Am I saying atheism is the course of all these evils , the 100s of millions killed. NO what I am saying is people , especially with power will always enforce there beliefs on its subjects.
@@satellitecannon9463: Trying to equate Christianity and Judaism with Islam will get you nowhere philosophically, and is entirely and 100% in accurate. If you read the Quran and other of the Islamic “holy“ books you will find out that the god that Islam is centered around is the polar opposite of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and all biblical teaching. And if you do not want to believe in the God of the Bible, that’s your choice. But don’t come crying to me when you’re standing in front of God trying to explain to him why you did not believe his word over the word of a false and fake profit.
Sheep are in the many, if you would follow religion then you're already going against your God by using internet, technology and medicine. Please stop using these if you're religious and follow your faith for healing and not the devil.
@@hatoftricks7132 I don't what religion are you talking about, but I am confident its not mine. All the current science you are currently studying were invented by my religion follower in their golden age. Lol, even the numbers you are currently writing 1234567890 were invented by a Muslim Scientiest. Its okay to be ignorant, but its a huge mistake for an ignorant person to think he is all knowing :)
Yes, most people know religion is bollox. So many unfortunate people surrounded by nonsense and see no way out of it, especially when getting out of it is dangerous for your well-being. Religion poisons everything.
As he doesn’t provide any evidences for most of his cases, yet, he often tries to rationalise Islam to render him evidence as though that’s all are miraculous essence of the Quran!
The issue with Richard Dawkins' statement about faith as belief without evidence is that it presents a simplistic and incomplete understanding of the concept of faith and how it operates within religious traditions. Here are some specific points of critique: 1. Mischaracterization of faith: Dawkins defines faith solely as belief without evidence, implying that religious individuals and communities base their beliefs on blind acceptance or ignorance. However, this overlooks the nuanced and multifaceted nature of faith, which can involve a range of factors including personal experiences, philosophical reasoning, historical evidence, and the interpretation of sacred texts. Faith is not solely about disregarding evidence but can involve a broader spectrum of intellectual and experiential considerations. 2. Ignoring different forms of evidence: Dawkins' statement implies that faith exists in opposition to evidence and rational argumentation. However, religious individuals often interpret their religious experiences, philosophical reasoning, and community traditions as forms of evidence supporting their beliefs. While this may not align with empirical or scientific evidence, it does not mean that religious believers are devoid of all evidential considerations in forming their faith. 3. Disregard for philosophical and theological debates: Dawkins' statement dismisses the rich history of philosophical and theological engagement that has shaped religious traditions. Many religious believers have engaged in extensive debates and intellectual discourse to examine and defend their beliefs. Faith, in this context, is not an abandonment of reason but an active participation in ongoing discussions and interpretations within religious communities. 4. Oversimplification of religious discourse: Dawkins suggests that belief without evidence shuts down the possibility of argumentation and critical engagement. However, religious individuals and scholars engage in rigorous debates, apologetics, and theological discussions that involve reasoning, interpretation, and reflection. Dismissing faith as inherently non-argumentative overlooks the diversity of perspectives and the rich intellectual tradition within religious communities. 5. Neglecting personal and subjective aspects of faith: Faith is often a deeply personal and subjective experience for individuals, and it goes beyond purely intellectual reasoning. It can encompass emotional, existential, and transcendent dimensions that may not be fully captured by an evidence-based approach. Dawkins' focus on empirical evidence fails to account for the deeply personal and transformative nature of religious faith for many individuals. In summary, Dawkins' characterization of faith as belief without evidence oversimplifies the concept and fails to acknowledge the range of intellectual, experiential, and philosophical considerations that can inform religious belief. It overlooks the diversity of religious perspectives and disregards the personal, subjective, and philosophical aspects of faith that play a significant role in the lives of religious individuals and communities.
What a baseless and utterly false opinion. People do things for all reasons. If one did not have religion to justify their evil then they’d find another justification. The problem isn’t religion. It’s people. Smh.
@@philscott3759 and? Your point is moronic because it still proves my point, PEOPLE are the problem. So blaming religion like Dawkins here is what’s called a CONFLATION. Lol SMFH 🤦♂️
The problem is people, but religion makes that problem worse. It clearly is the case that religious people routinely commit atrocities thinking they're doing gods work. One example is the Catholic Chuch banning condoms in the context of third world countries experiencing AIDS epidemics. How many have people died needless, cruel, painful deaths because of that preachment? That's a crime only religion could commit.
@@Kevin-pv6px He... Does... NOT... BELIEVE in evolution. He THINKS evolution is an accurate description of the origin of species on planet Earth based on the evidence we've found thus far. Guess what, if new, unequivocal evidence were to be found in the future disproving evolution, then, scientists would immediately drop that hypothesis with no hard feelings. There are scientists who have spent DECADES trying to figure out a scientific theory and have failed. Guess what, they don't kill themselves. They just discovered a dead-end in science and that's just as good as any other discovery.
He explicitly did not say that. He clearly stated that theists are neither intellectually inferior to him or bad people. You just heard what you wanted to hear.
He would never say believe without evidence and his beliefs are rooted in evidence which upon new information can be updated to have a better idea of truth having faith in religion and gods is simply being ignorant middle ages sheep
Well… seeing how calm, collected, articulate dude is, I would have to agree. Religion has done so many evils in the world. IF IT IS PERSONAL, PRIVATE, YOURS, THEN LET’S LEAVE IT THAT WAY. End of discussion.
No matter what is taught and believed, there will always be evil men doing evil things. But in order for good men to do evil things you need faith. This is a paraphrase of someone else's quote
People with faith are triggered. He is speaking the true.
Claiming to be wise, they became fools,and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. - Romans 1:22-32
There are many evidences that lead to the Bible being true and Gods creation. Like historical evidemces like eyewitneses (12 Apostles). The Ashely Beds Phosophate that has many different kind of animal bones including Dinosaurs with human bones.
Triggered? He asked a question, most with faith have the evidence in their daily lives, the evidence does exist:)
I know a lot of atheists who refuse to look at evidence. When they unleashed the experimental agent known as the Covid vaccine, the fda website said that they didn’t know if the efficacy would last longer than two months… yet people were coerced (a Nuremberg violation) by threat of job loss, for something that turned out not to work, and yet it’s still being pushed and few atheists I’ve presented to, are interested in evidence… they claim to have faith in the medical system. And refuse to look at any evidence contrary to the lies they’ve been told. They get triggered if their faith in pharmaceutical products is diminished. My entire in law family got their shots and got Covid… oh but it decreases the severity… is there evidence for that statement? No. Do they ask for evidence? No. Yeah, just Christians are the idiots who don’t require proof. Im not buying that BS.
No, he isn't.
Believing in something without evidence is called "Ignorance". Plain and simple
What caused the universe? And was the cause an uncaused cause?
If you were to give that a name, what would you call it? *Something that caused intelligible life*
Ill let you come to your own conclusion
@@joe5959??? you are ignorant. There is something called science and the scientific process. That uses rational and then experiment the validity of the hypothesis.
Religions are nothing more than a very poorly thought hypothesis that you were indoctrinated to believe in since you were a child. If you were born in a different family with a different religion, you would believe in that religion instead, but guess what, reality does not care in what culture you were raised.
Your comment shows and proves how mentally lazy you really are.
@@joe5959You people always say such stupid shit instead of actually engaging with what was said. You're ignorant, and instead of denying that you started asking fucking moronic questions. The universe may be eternal, or may have come about from some natural cause, or sure it may have even been created, but of those options only the natural answer has evidence to support it. You used the word "cause" because you think it makes your god claim stronger, but it doesn't. If I drown in a lake, the cause of my death was water entering my lungs and making it impossible for me to breathe, and yet the water isn't intelligent, now is it? Your argument was pathetic, no one would come to the conclusion that a god exists just by reading your argument, and the best part is that even if you people could prove an intelligent mind created the universe, you'd be one tiny little fraction of a step closer to proving it was a god, or your specific god, or universe hopping pixies. Your argument wouldn't even prove the conclusion you're drawing.
I have no idea what caused the universe, just like all the other people in the world. So giving it names would be foolish.@@joe5959
Good thing that’s not how the Christian faith works
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
The majority of atrocities are committed by atheist totalitarians.
@@Logiconfire??? the crusades, hitler was a devoted christian, israel and hamas, all the terrorists attacks. what nonsense are you talking about? I guess that is your belief.
@janparchanski9242No one cares. Voltaire is constantly quoted by atheists. What's pathetic is that you think anyone gives a shit what you think.
@@ngpb17hitler was absolutely not a devoted christian
@@lb7625He was. Is just that christians distanced themselves because of the backlash, and are trying to change history. But he was christian, oh well as christian as any politician can be 😂.
This is why we must keep religion out of government and public schools.
we should also keep you out of public schools too nonsayyyyy
Ya replace it with LGBTQ right fuck up our kids minds allow abortions also I say you would agree
There is the morality without god if you can't admit that then your
The fool without knowledge
Fools take no pleasure in learning or understanding
Just there emotions views
Proverbs 18:2
I could not agree more! Religion has no place in government institutions, especially our schools, poisoning the minds of the upcoming generations with nonesense
Start with secular humanism.
He never said religion, he said “belief without evidence.” Meaning Ignorance.
I believe Socrates is quoted to say ignorance is the only evil.
He believes God doesn't exist even though it's not possible to prove that God doesn't exist & never will be. Therefore, it's an unscientific, faith based belief, but he'll mock those who take the opposite position. There's a better chance of finding evidence of existence of God than there ever will be of finding evidence of absence. Dawkins is in a belief/faith based state of mind too , he just doesn't refer to it as a religion. I think the only approach thats in line with scientific inquiry & the spirit of science would be to be agnostic, otherwise its belief & faith regardless of what side you fall on.
@@EastwoodFPS I agree. I have personal evidence of gods existence. Therefore I believe. One thing is certain aiming my thoughts and actions towards the principals of the Bible have improved my life in many ways.
@@coachcoty6806 what is you personal evidence ?
@@bahaahussein6450 I guess we'll never know.
@@bahaahussein6450 What is Islam's evidence that Allah exists?
There is no evidence only stories.
Same in the Bible.
You get the point
The problem with Mr. Dawkins is that he does not realize most people are not nearly as smart as he is
There no evidence to back up most of his claims
Exactly he is very smart.
@@jjjjj2220 Name one
@@brandonn6099
That something is "evil".
@@abhmd4481 Elaborate
How Medhi Hasan has had a career post this is stunning.
It's because you only saw one side, not the whole interview.
@@IbadassI I didnt? Thank you for incorrectly assuming. Lets, for arguments sake, say I havent though. Please furnish some context that would make this IN ANY WAY ACCEPTABLE to a modern educated man? You have the floor...
@@jknowstheway1462 Wait until you realise there can be only one ultimate uncreated cause, otherwise nothing would have ever happened.
@@IbadassI Who created God?
And if your answer is God is eternal, youre just inserting a middle man. If God can be eternal, why cant the conditions which created the universe be?
Oh, who created those conditions? Well who created god? Oh God is eternal? Well the conditions which created the universe are eternal.
Your argument is easily falsifiable.
@@jknowstheway1462 My, my, what a wonderful conundrum it seems you have woven. Unfortunately any other condition/particle/thing, if it can be defined, means it has limits.
Limited "things" cannot be around forever in the past if we exist. Because infinitely regressing backwards would mean nothing now would happen, like you discussing this thread for example, because the primordial past would be infinitely long. Therefore there has to be an undefinable "something" that has no limits would be a necessary being.
Organized religion is for people who, unlike mister Dawkins can't think for themselves.
So true.
Is actually the opposite. Religion creates culture. And culture creates the environment that makes organised thought possible. Every city in the beginning was built around a church or holy place. University in Europe has its beginnings in monks. Those monks are the reason why we even have aristoteles. Because they transcriped his teachings in tomes. And he is the father of logic and systematic scientific thought in the west. Sorry but a dismissive white and black thinking is just the opposite of critical thinking. It's hypocritical.
@@simbabwe2907 Religion does not create culture, people create culture. Religion is a component of culture, but it is still human created.
It’s the easy way out. No work, no thought, just a happy warm cloak of delusion.
@@biekgiek religion is a human universal that binds people together. It creates narrative structure which binds community's and create value structures. So yes it creates culture. One component of religion is the create of rituals. Rituals are habits of community that establish order in the community. By being believed to reflect a pattern that is outside of the community and reflect the very way reality is structured. Even in your worldview not people as such create religion. But is something that emerges in community through distrubuted cognition.
Exactly, this reminds me of what Voltaire reportedly once said, "Those who can convince you with absurdities, can convince you to commit atrocities." This applies to faith perfectly.
Total non sequitur. Totally incoherent. Much like Dick Dawkins.
@@nomadforchrist4337 You know, it might do you good to approach such difficult matters excluding contempt and prejudice.
@@nomadforchrist4337 sounds a lot like ‚I don’t believe in logic so I’m just gonna deny it‘ 😂
@@IrakleiosTheGreat that's neither contempt not prejudice. Simply truth. That was easy.
@@nomadforchrist4337 So name-calling and tantrums are part of the truth now? Fascinating!
I'm surprised Dawkins stayed for the interview despite the host claiming that muhammed split the moon into two
Why would he leave instead of arguing such a stupid claim?
Its not like it'll ever be followed by, "And let's go investigate it to show it's factually accurate information"..😅
Not to any degree ever.
Don’t blame the material. Literally taking such expressions as true rather than as metaphor is due to the developmental stage that many humans are currently operating from. Spirituality begins when belief including the atheistic belief is dropped and one goes beyond thought and self to the depths.
@@ivanvincent7534
There's no such thing as an Atheistic belief, as Atheism stems from disbelief and skepticism more often than whatever else motivated the individual personally.
And excuses wouldn't be needed if these religious texts didn't get so much wrong consistently. Even if believers were to all follow one religion, it still wouldn't work to show how that one is the truth as supported by verified credible good evidence.
So, what is spirituality?
On the surface, if there's any depth atall, it's a blanket term that covers over the unknown with a concept that's equally invalid.
No different than a person who seen a UFO claims it was aliens from someplace else.
The U in UFO means unidentified, as it isn't known and therefore cannot lead to, it's aliens as the first or best explanation for the sightings. As that would mean it's actually identified and confirmed as alien which has not been the case. 🤷🏼
How can you be so confident and comfortable being so wrong?
Hezoyam@ when you are just hater you open your mouth like that who said and believe Mohamed did that what liare u r😂😂😂😂
Spot on. Religion poisons everything
And yet Christians we’re the first to create a hospital Christians all around the world help people I see more Christian’s helping than atheists sure we’ve done some bad things but hasn’t everyone Stalin was an atheist does that mean every atheist is a communistic murdering maniac no
@@alexsass6539 rwanda, the most catholic nation on earth. Church instrumental in genocide.stalin trained as a priest and used his skills to slaughter 20 million people. Religion poisons everything
No it doesn't
Economy and Power does
@@c.arawak1017 sure, and when religion is involved, good mend and women easily do wicked things to further pwer and greed
Extremely well put and So True Richard Dawkins..!
Atheists believe the universe created itself. That takes faith.
There is overwhelming evidence for the big bang theory. You don't wanna read that, your choice
No, not really, we don't believe that.
@@amishbhat3560 what is the name of the space it's exploding in to and how did it get there.
And what non godly power created the universe that it was a ball that exploded.
To me, there's two choices...either god created the universe or the universe created itself. Which would make it God, having required being sentient.
No it doesn't theres actually maths that proves it 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Every belief system, including atheism, has an unprovable epistemological axiom: something which when you boil down, can only be believed by faith.
There were no witnesses at the origin of the universe, meaning you either need to believe by faith one of two things: matter has always existed, or matter spontaneously came into existence. Both theories violate laws of thermodynamics.
If matter and energy has always existed, it would return to a state of chaos due to entropy. Since in this theory matter exists for an infinite amount of time, it has an infinite amount of time to unravel through entropy, meaning no order should exist. Additionally, nothing ever goes from chaos to order, always the other way around. The only exception being if an outside force, say, a God, arranged it into some form of order.
If it came into existence spontaneously, it would need some outside force, say, a God, to initiate it, since matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
Atheists take by faith the infinitesimally small chance that order can exist from chaos. Theists take by faith the words of God. Neither at their core are grounded by science. Both require some form of faith.
The interviewer thinks a man on a winged horse rose to heaven! Don't waste time with idiots, they may pull you down.
Exactly
I bet you believe the earth is a spinning ball !!
@@kamjoe380ah a Flat Earther... are you a Creationist as well?
@@kamjoe380it is
Exactly, fuck ‘em.
I am a staunch Christian and I agree with him. Blind, unexamined faith can lead to terribly destructive things. If you have no reason to believe something yet do, you are going to be much more likely to lash out at the challenge instead of think through it logically. This can be seen whenever you try to argue with a dumb person.
Same here devout Catholic and I absolutely agree with this statement. My only problem with Dawkins here is that he wrongly defines faith as believing in something without evidence. That is not at all the definition of faith especially in the Christian sense. Faith came from the Greek word pistus which meant trust. Believing in something with good reason.
@@petermuneme25 Yep, agreed. Many atheists seem to wrongly define faith.
Let me put this straight. Do you believe a human can be born without sperm being involved? If the answer is yes, it's called faith, and it is ignorance.
@@samuelblack4792 There is only good reason to have faith if you wrongly define reasoning though. Reason requires logic, and logic requires evidence. If you don't want to use proper logic and reason, that's okay, but don't claim reason or logic
The faulty logic path for faith based thinking is circular.
God is real therefore x reason for belief is true.
Then x reason for belief is true therefore it proves God is real.
The fault lies in using an illogical poorly reasoned conclusion of "God is real = true" with no evidence/premises and using that to fill out the rest of the logical premises and conclusions truth values of your faith without ever proving it is true, then using those truth values as the premises for the argument "God is real is true" when the only reason the premises can be true is if you already determined God is real
If you really think you have good reason to believe in a God you are showing an incredible lack of logic and reasoning skills. NO IDEA can be sacred if you are using reason. This means that if you cannot back up your idea with any valid evidence, it should be discarded as not supported. And affirmative claims bear the burden of proof
@@dxfifa Leftists and socialists operate without reason or logic to support their desired policies all the time.
Dawkin 💪 love from India 🇮🇳 💝 . Keep going uncle you changing many people
Only the no brainers
@@thewellwishers1266 Theists are No-Brainers
@@thewellwishers1266your statement quite funny
@@thewellwishers1266 You mean the religious? Why, yes!
Dawkins is not changing anybody. It’s just a debate. Somebody who truly believes in their faith will not be moved by the musings of a mortal who believes he’s qualified to talk about a matter he has no real understanding of.
Agreed.The blind evil perpetrated in the name of Islam has been a curse on the world. How many innocent people have been lost in the last 30 years alone?
Not to mention the evils perpetrated in the name of christianity, judaism, facism, socialism, social progressivism etc.
@@joealyjim3029 as well as in the name of "Patria". M. Dawkins is the first I've heard mentioning patriotism together with religious faith. About time someone did.
Love how you select Islam but dont mentioned the hundred of millions colonised and murdered by European Christendom from Europe to Africa to the America’s.
Millions upon millions
Murdered and robbed but let me guess your historical knowledge goes as far back as 9:11
Muppet
@@agnesmetanomski6730 You haven't studied much, have you?
@@lealvazquezosvaldo8431 Oh? How do you come to this conclusion?
Religion is the worst thing to happen to humanity
Well said. Basically faith becomes anti criticism. Without criticism there can be no way to improve.
He just described any given cult of political personality.
Especially when religious 'faith' fuels it.
The mix is toxic beyond belief
Nothing is more toxic than New Atheism.
@@Programm4r Toxic to the nonsense of religious dogma? Absolutely correct.
@@outermarker5801 religious atheist toxic to those of other religions. Ironic.
@@Programm4r Calling atheists 'religious' is a trite argument. Right up there with telling ex christian atheists they were 'never really saved'.
Whatever
@@Programm4r Dunce.
The sad thing I see on this debate is that a even a great thinker and scholar as Mehdi Hasan can fall prey to early indoctrination
That's why it must be forbidden to teach religion to little kids at school. They'll believe whatever comes out of the mouth of an adult they respect. And most of them will still believe it as adults
@@orlandocarrillo7132
Quite the opposite; all religions should be taught, without preference or favor. The trick isn’t to tell young people what to think, or what not to think, but rather HOW to think. Teach young people how to exercise skepticism, how to critically discern truth from fiction, and then present them with ALL forms of religious material. Unreasonable beliefs will lose their hold.
quite the opposite, no religion should be taught. What could be taught is the history of religions and that is something different. There the kids will learn among other things how for example the catholic church was always a tool and worked together with the rulers as a mafia in a pursuit of power and money. They would learn why people in the former european colonies (south america, africa) believe in god. Mainly because their ancestors were threatened to death if they didn't convert. That's different than teaching religion.
@@orlandocarrillo7132 they shouldn’t teach evolution theory either because it’s based off speculation and can never be proven however they teach it like it’s a fact and also with out religion u don’t have objective morality. Atheistic beliefs will lead to more crimes because there is nothing wrong with murder rape and other things religion has said and tought objectively as evil
@@briley2177 by doing that you'll prep them readily to embrace Islam. ;) you do not want to teach your kids how to think, and how to discern truth from fiction, this is a recipe for them embracing Islam.
Great thinker and he's absolutely right.
Many years ago, a pastor tried to convert me and said have faith. I told him to sell his house and bet it on a horse. He said that he doesn't know anything about the horse and then I smiled.
That’s brilliant
r/ThatHappened
Proud of yourself?
Nice hehe
Oh but shouldn’t we instinctively trust religious people even though they have all sinned and been forgiven? Evil.
Every Middle Eastern should watch this interview. Respect to Richard from Persia/Iran.
"Faith is comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate" 💚I have to steal that one!
Or its either the greatest story ever told OR its the truth. The beautiful thing is you get to decide. Just because someone is an intellectual doesn't make them right.
@@tabithawhitaker9273 take a serious look at history, and you'll see that no matter how "beautiful" the story told by religious representatives, the truth about any religious organisation is ugly. And part of it is how the faith is used to force people into set moulds, and to define a "us"+"them" dichotomy that not only tolerates, but actively promotes hate and discrimination.
@@agnesmetanomski6730 You are mistaken God for the problems of "man" and I completely identify with that. Listen its up to you to decide but you don't get to decide for others. In my opinion God is alive and well but you obviously feel differently. Its up to you! And because its popular or trendy to hate God i expect nothing less. ✌❤🙏
@@tabithawhitaker9273 Oh,, I have no problem letting others decide whether they want to believe in some God or not. But by your own words, ie. a person does not get to decide for others what they believe in, children should not have ANY contact with any form of religion until they're 18 and can decide for themselves.
And the ones usually trying to shove their opinions down the throat of others are not the ones who do not adhere to any faith, but rather the ones that do.
Richard Dawkins is the person who coined the term "meme" to describe concepts that reproduce by transmission from one mind to another. The concept of faith is one which is pathogenic but successfully reproduces despite the harm it causes to its host organism.
I like this man more and more every time I see a video of him
Mahdi is brilliant right?
Ikr, Dawkins isn’t great for no reason.
people actually get triggered by dawkins
People get triggered when they call out that the "belief" that something can come from nothing. 🤷🏾♂️
@@ghulamsarwar687 exactly, the interviewer got caught red handed lol.
This man has successfully escaped the major matrix of humanity
AGREED!!!
Yeah but what if the matrix is our home ?
Except he hasn't.
@Awoken777If the matrix were a thing literally fucking everything is part of the matrix
...by joining an even bigger one?
We use faith everyday in our lives: using medicine because someone told us it'll heal us, eating food we didn't prepare etc all because we have faith in the person that told us to. Having faith is not only a Christian thing, it's a human thing
He's speaking facts, the generations ahead shall wonder how religion was ever a thing.
I'm glad Dawkins always gets them.
every generation has predicted this from the beginning of recorded history. ironically, there is no evidence that this can or would happen.
Yeah, but remember what John Lenox said.
It's a complicated world and people want simple answers.
No, people want ultimate answers.
@@nathanrobbins7668 If an "ultimate" answer was very complicated they would reject it for a simple answer.
Actually from what I hear (not coming sure though) logos was one of the first words used for God. In other words, God is the logos that started the universe. Everyone seems to forget that sometimes religion and science can go hand in hand with each other.
King: Do what I say, I own you and everything in the kingdom, and I can do whatever I want!
Subject: Why?
King: Special dispensation of divine right.
Religious person: I don’t have to use logic or pay you what we agreed upon.
Rational person: Why not?
Religious person: Special dispensation of divine right.
Don’t expect others to tiptoe around you and your imaginary friend. That’s your thing. He doesn’t exist outside of you and your buddies’ heads.
Religion is based on faith
Science is based on evidence
ignorance is bad but the true evil on earth are the ones running the show! and they are not ignorant.
EXACTLY!!
It's _evil_ to believe something without evidence? That's absurd.
I believe my god has tasked me to eradicate you.
Did you watch the video?
@@TurinTuramber Yes, and that's exactly what he says in the video
@@deidara_8598 Indeed, watch the part where Dawkins explains how a closed mind cannot be rationalised with or course corrected. When people believe without doubt that God is with them they can commit evils without contrition.
What he explains is that faith itself leads to evil. It doesn't mean people who have faith are evil. As Christians say, hate the sin, love the sinner.
Richard Dawkins is the man of rationale. We need more of him and more like him in our world.
I mean, except that his statement that belief without evidence is evil is itself a belief without evidence.
Yeah but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a creator. I think John Lenex said something about God acting as a sort of "logos" that set the universe in motion.
@@Deadite_Scholar I totally agree with Richard Dawkins. Belief without proof is evil.
It would not be evil if they keep it to themselves. The evil comes from using your faith to justify violent acts against others.
People are free to wallow in their ignorance as long as they stay in their own sty.
I love this guy he speaks his mind,which is a rarity today 💪
Hitler spoke his mind too.. being opinionated doesn't make you correct.
@@valeriehinkle8995 This is Prof. Dawkins. He's right most of the time.
@@valeriehinkle8995 i don’t mind someone speaking his mind even if he is what you describe as “incorrect”
@@valeriehinkle8995 Infantile attempt.
@@PramodKumar-gy8lb except for when he's not.
Idk, I don’t think this line of thinking is as smart as I used to think it was.
You think its point is to sound smart?
Facts. I was thinking the exact same thing. It’s smart to young edgy teenagers.
@@leonfrancis3418 sound smart, no.
Be smart, yes.
@@DeAngelo77 exactly.
It's not smart. It's just logic.
Professor Dr. Dawkins is fully true
professor Dawkins is brilliant and hopefully he will help eradicate us of superstitious nonsense!
Like apes turning into men. What a load lol.
You’ll be saying that when hell😅
Making major life decisions based on superstition IS idiotic
Why is it.... that whenever I watch videos discussing or debating about religion, the non-believer is always the sincere and genuine one while the believer seems not. Could just be a coincidence but... That's how it appears to me. Like the Christopher Hitchens and William Lane Craig debate.
One person who guided me to leave my faith is this prophet Richard Dawkins in 2008. I am an ex-Muslim and leaving Islam is the best decision I ever made.
You don't have to accept my personal faith, but I also don't have to accept your denial of my personal faith. It is why these conversations really need never happen in the first place. What I do in private with my faith is my own biz and what you do in private with your atheism is yours.
I agree with Richard Dawson a 100%
Who’s that?
Faith is not belief without evidence - that's superstition. Faith is trusting in what you have found reasonable to believe in.
Evidence isn't just evident in the physical or 3d realm, evidence can be logic, evidence can be energy towards something
I'm not a believer but... have you seen some Cathedrals, Mosques or Synagogues out there? Religious architecture just looks so damn fine.
Believing in Evolution is absolutely a religion based on faith. You cannot test it scientifically either.
It has more evidence than any other scientific field, mountains of it. Where did you go to school....Mars? The Theory of Evolution is based on nothing BUT evidence. That's how Theories are born...evidence.
If people can not argue the truth, they will fight over it.
Fools, if you buy this premise. We put faith in a hundred things every day without evidence, but these assumptions allow you to traverse your daily decision making and survive the world.
Your confusing trust with faith.
Secondly, even if that is the case, true two wrongs don’t make a right.
That's the thing - every day! We put faith in things that happen all the time, meaning it's very reasonable to believe they will continue to happen. Religions are not the same. They are founded on religious books which claim extraordinary events that allegedly happened once in the past and were written down. Are we supposed to believe those stories the same way we believe repetitive things of mundane life?
He who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
Exactly. Throughout history religion (especially Christianity) has been about blind faith. They only focused on what the Bible said and completely forgot about what Jesus said.
He's right
I think we need to change the word “faith” into “source: trust me bro”.
I think people will catch on sooner why faith isn’t such a noble thing after all.
I’d rather not know an answer to a question than to not being able to question an answer.
BRAVO!!!
Well said
Well said
I totally agree with this man faith without evidence is blind faith and there is no such thing and if you do have blind faith then you are deluding yourself and those who follow you or living in a delusion State
🎯
Come back to islam
@Fides Non Sequitur faith, without purpose, and truth, is nothing anyone could have faith in anything, does not make it true so come back to islam
The wrong thing you said was the word blind faith…blind faith is simply faith. Having faith is already being blind. Having faith is a delusion that was forcefully demanded and inspired by our ancient leaders in order to gain influence and power over its populations.
When people say they believe in God what they really mean is that I believe what someone told them. Usually their parents.
A lot of things in this world are evil, faith isn’t one of them.
I think he is aware that everything associated with your religion is not evil. I imply that regard to the subject of faith in general too.
He is making a logical arguement. Imagine having faith so great you force your kids into it. You could say it is evil. For example, if you get a kid to avoid all ungodly influences they will lack life experience. So much so they are more likely to make Earth, Hell. They will lack human bonds, life experience, they will have unhealthy sexual urges because they will lose their entire childhood to a god that you have faith in. I have watched it happen. Everything has consequences. Being willfully ignorant and ignoring the fact that faith is illogical can be evil and dangerous.
@CONFID3NC3 nothing is wrong about that though....
Ignorance is
Objectively there is not such thing as evil it’s all subjective
@IAMSHERON I disagree, there are some acts so evil they would universally be agreed upon as evil. Unless you had some form of mental condition
Based on the comments here, very few of you are capable of processing basic logic and have just completely proven Dawkins point by twisting it to fit you're own particular narratives. SMH How many comments here do not even fit with what he actually said. 😒
You should know by now that strawmanning is all they've got.
@@Tretas. lol. Ya I know. But I gotta keep trying! 😆😁 Throw enough, often enough.... maybe someday it'll set in. Cheers 🍻 I still miss Hitchens
@@Tretas. And the projecting!? Like half the time they're just explaining their own illogical views...
so true
@@krisjohansen9132 me too
Believing in God is not evil.
"If you can get people to believe absurdities, you can get people to commit atrocities"
Dawkins left open the discussion concerning the nature of the "evidence" needed to support a theistic claim, dawkins is no philosopher, he attributes the words evil and good outside of their ontological sphere and there's no way an atheist can have a basic anchorage for morality, let alone a practical procedure in which we can prove the existence or non-existence of a supernatural being
Morality is most likely a mix of genetics and learned behavior with or without an explicit believe in gods.
Morality is a form of sophisticated altruism, and altruism has evolved many many times in the animal kingdom.
The world in which you live, where morality must come from religion, exists only between your ears.
@@09patrick22barnes95 primal consciousness is exhaustive of reality, not right or wrong, we could have solved excessive population rates if your version of impulse based morality was highly applied, we can just go back to my comment and see that i was only discussing the simple fact an atheist cannot objectively judge a moral value in hindsight, your definition of "genetics and learned behavior" morality is truely beneath my notice as it has no bases and no intrinsic purpose for all that matters, let me ask you a question you will most likely give the worst take on
-what was the driving force (conceptual or impirical) that shaped human behavior and morality into the thing it is now? In other words why is it good to punish jack when he steals from john?
There is no way theists can anchor morality in God in any coherent or compelling way. Least of your problems on that front is that you can't actually demonstrate your god exits.
@@CyeOutsideri feel sorry that you got the two concepts of legitimacy and anchorage mixed up in your head, simply put, metaphysical truths are different to conceptual truths, conceptual truths are the product of talking several distinct elements into a unified whole, a metaphysical truth stands on it's own autonomously, so for you to suggest that the inability to demonstrate God (which is not true btw) can affect the sense of moral anchorage towards deity is plain pathetic
we are all born as atheist until someone starts telling us lies
That’s just wrong, people who haven’t considered the question are called innocents
Ohh and we’re all born anarchists until someone starts telling us lies
The more I review the history of the so called, holy land the more Dawkins makes sense.
Religon is holding us back in the modern age
Dawkins is completely correct
Seriously!
Only to non brainers
@@thewellwishers1266 Then see some statistics about atheism and IQ. ☠️💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀☠️☠️💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@thewellwishers1266what?
I totally agree with you.
A pretty interesting interpretation of the word "faith"
I would say that's a standard definition of faith. belief in something without evidence.
@@Philrc The way my church defines it is:
"Trust that God is who He says He is, has done all that He's promised to do, and will do all that He's promised to do."
My church vehemently argues against "blind faith", which is how the term faith is often used in typical speech.
"My team is losing 50-0!" "Oh, just have faith!"
This usage has grossly misinterpreted the meaning of it. The first definition I gave has two parts.
1) You must know who God says He is, and determine for yourself, given your life experiences, if God's character truly sounds accurate and real in the universe we live in.
2) You must know God's promises and determine if they have truly been upheld. For example, God promised Abraham to make him a father of all the nations, going so far as to say that his descendants would outnumber thr stars in the sky and the sand on the Earth. Look at today where we now have nearly 8 billion people alive, and that doesn't even include all the other people that have lived through history.
If you know His character, and you find Him to be true to His promises, then you can have faith that He will do what He says He'll do. Like when a good, faithful friend says "I'll be there", you can count on them to show up. It's not a coin toss as to whether they will or not.
@@oddatsea9398 your church's definition is blind faith. What they are saying to you is believe in a god without any evidence of his existence. That is the only position that a religious person can have. none of you have any proof or have ever had any proof that there is a God at all. If you trust that there is a God on the basis of faith alone with no evidence which is your church's definition that is exactly the same as Dawkins definition and indeed of anybody's definition because it is the standard definition of religious faith. It's no good you going on at me or other people about what God Said and what he promised to us and what Abraham is going to do because all of those things and your belief in them come after the fact that you have blind faith in god's existence. You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever for any of the things that you believe.
A person's belief that their football team may finally win is quite possibly based on far more evidence than you have for the existence of God. There may be all kinds of statistics and facts about the players and their stamina, style of playing etc etc which might lead a person to think that the team will eventually score more points.
@@Philrc Except, no, it's literally not blind faith. Here's the checklist detailed in case you missed it.
1) Read about His promises
2) Determine if those promises have been fulfilled, based off of your own life experiences.
3) Read about His character and actions
4) Determine if those characteristics and actions are evident in your life experiences.
Even science follows a similar ruleset.
1) Hypothesize
2) Test and determine if results accurately reflect what was expected.
Who drops a ball and expects it to go up? No one, because based on previous life experiences, we expect a dropped ball to fall down.
I can logically prove God exists with a thought experiment. If I were a drawing in a flipbook, how would my 3D version interact with my universe (the flipbook)? Then I extrapolate that up so my 2D version becomes 3D and my 3D version becomes 4D. From this thought experiment, the fundamental, inmutable characteristics of God can be described. He would be omnipresent since He can span the entirety of the "flipbook". He would be omnipotent since He would essentially be the artist, able to draw and conjure up anything at His will. He would be omniscient since He would know the entire story of the flipbook from front the back since He drew it. He would be eternal since He exists out of our dimension of time. As stated previously, He knows the front and the back of the flipbook, the Creation and the Extinction of that universe. It'd be foolish from the artist's perspective for the drawing to deny the artist's existence. The artist created it, yet has no way of directly interjecting expect to add himself to the flipbook, like what God did when He took on flesh in the form of Jesus Christ. Other than a direct interjection like that, which still did not convince many of the people of his day, the artist would only be able to act, and from those actions, we can determine the artist's character. If the artist smites all blonde people, then we can determine the artist loathes blondes.
@@oddatsea9398 I don't need to read it you are kidding yourself . Your faith is entirely a matter of belief without evidence.
And no science does not proceed in the same way at all it's actually becoming rather tiresome hearing you God botherer types constantly say this.
The only reason you have some checklist that you think makes any sense at all is because you have blind faith that there is a God that the checklist applies to you have no evidence to think that, you just have faith that he exists.
He never specified the standard of evidence. Plenty of people justify terrible beliefs with low quality evidence.
He is wrong, evil is the indifference of those that know better. Faith and religion are built into the very aspect of what we are. Remove God, and you will simply fill it with something else; atheism, crossfit, veganism, etc.
Most people already do that with new movements but they are still wrong and its still the closest thing to what humans call evil. Which in itself does not actually exist either. Humans like to jump from one fictional hole and just fall into another.
You have only demonstrated that people have viewpoints. Faith is not built into me, it was taught to me. Now I reject faith, as it is not a consistent way to the truth. Multiple religions are a demonstration of that.
@@PersistentDissenter faith is something you believe
It doesn't inherently mean you believe in the right thing
What do you have faith in should be the question
@@ghosttheprogram6973
noun: faith
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2.
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
We are discussing theological faith.
But with that in mind, I do not have complete trust or confidence in anything. I am a skeptic.
@@PersistentDissenter so you have complete faith that there's nothing to have complete faith in?
😂
There is an obvious hole in his argument, or maybe he’s just wording it incorrectly, because most people who have faith and are religious are not believing in something without evidence. They deem the miraculous experiences they’ve had and their relationship with a higher being to be evidence. So it’s not that they believe in something without evidence, they believe they have seen more than enough evidence to believe in/have faith in it.
What miraculous experiences? There are zero miraculous occurrences. Finding your car keys isn't one, no. What "relationship with 'god'"?.
A relationship with no communication? 'god' never speaks, never appears, never answers. No-one can tell you what 'god' looks like, sounds like, what gender, can't ask a direct question, can't get any direct answers, no-one purports to have any actual communication with 'god'.
It's always some random, mundane occurrence that people suddenly espouse is a 'sign from 'god''.
You are exactly the same as the people who identify as quad-gender, non-binary antelopes.
@@philscott3759 Hey Phil!
I’d love to discuss this with you!
Miraculous doesn’t always mean walking on water or coming back from death, it can be a multitude of things but finding your car keys is quite a weak argument to oppose. I completely understand why you’d be skeptical, and I don’t blame you at all! Why would anyone believe in God? It’s seems impossible for someone like that to exist so I completely understand where you’re coming from and I’m not trying to argue with you at all. When I said miraculous, I did not mean finding your car keys, I would say that is a straw man argument.
What about the real life stories of people that actually exist who have been healed from disease when doctors said they had weeks to live? I personally know people who have experienced a multitude of happenings that I would deem as miraculous, and I myself have as well. They’re not always so obvious like being saved from a car crash or something but they are much more profound than that, they are not always a single instance but rather, a constant connection. Have you thought about the fact that maybe people can’t describe what God sounds like or looks like because someone as great as God would not be communicating in such human and earthly ways? That maybe the reason that science can’t explain God and that science can’t prove God exists is because if He could be proved by science then what would be so great about Him? I know you might say that there are many great and astounding things that can be proved by science but personally I think that if God was subject to science He would not be ‘God’. God must be greater than science and exists outside the laws and dimensions that we humans perceive. I know this might sound crazy and I don’t blame you if you think that. I do however feel that if you truly open yourself to God, and I mean truly genuinely and 100% open yourself to the possibility that God exists then it is impossible to not be confronted by Him. I believe that if you are willing, and really genuinely open your heart and mind and soul to God, and I mean genuinely, not in a way that you’re doing it just to prove that there isn’t a God, but if you genuinely open your heart to God, it is impossible to not feel and hear Him in ways that you feel and understand so deep in your soul that are profound beyond belief. I believe that Jesus is God and you’re free to say you disagree but personally I feel that I’ve experienced too many things to say otherwise. I’ve had periods where I didn’t believe there was a God at all and tried to live that way, but God always found me and spoke to me on a level that I can’t really articulate. If He wasn’t real, then I would have no problem saying that, and I have believed that at times and struggled with the illogical and unscientific nature of God but God is greater than Logic and Science. If He was bound by science and logic He would not be ‘God’. I personally have experienced too many ‘miraculous’ things in my life to say that He does not exist and by ‘miraculous’ I don’t only mean someone being healed from a disease or saved from a car crash but I mean the profound connection that goes right to my very soul and essence and being. Jesus, God, speaks to everyone in a different way.
I’m glad to continue this discussion with you Phil, please feel free to say whatever you want. I pray that God speaks to you soon, in a way that only you can understand.
Have a great day Phil!
Furthermore, faith doesn’t justify ‘anything’ (everything) because major religions have a manual that delineates the boundaries of their faith
@Ingram Strand fair enough but he was speaking in a particular context and so am I
That's not evidence
The problem is that religious people have a different definition/standard of what constitutes evidence..and their gullible/indoctrinated selves think that scriptural dogma & faith suffice as evidence. You cannot reason with the vast majority of people of faith.
Richard Dawkins has convinced me that Richard Dawkins has faith in Richard Dawkins....and I am forever grateful, thank you Richard Dawkins.
How can something as beautiful as Richard Dawkins have evolved naturally ?
Survival of the fittest
@@PhantomAyz he ai’t exactly fit.
@@theservantsresource3565 Well he is surviving
@@PhantomAyzlol good one
@@PhantomAyzthan explain how butterfly’s and dragon fly’s such delicate creature survived
Fact. Religion has no evidence
Reddit comment
@@joe5959 more like, brain existing in skull comment.
@@joe5959just because it’s an atheist comment doesn’t mean it’s a Reddit comment 😂 no more RUclips for you
The universe is so organized and has so much pattern, there’s definitely more evidence *for* A higher power than against it. Atheism requires *way* more faith.
Um...entropy?
@@toughenupfluffy7294 you mean the natural state of elements that works against organization, aka: further evidence that an intelligence had to organize everything? 😂
Organized? What in the fuck are you talking about? It's chaos.
@@Decadent_Descent I've realized with your comment that it is a glass half empty, glass half full view of the world. I can't make you see the billions of coincidences for Earth to be where and for it is.
After I turned atheist, religious people became excruciatingly ridiculous for some reason. I don't know if I'm the only one who feels this way.
Faith in 2023 is an embarrassment to humanity. Shame
Just consoom product and get excited for new product
This guy is the devil's wet dream.
The devil is an admirable figure he is like prometheus who was cursed for rebelling against the tyrannical god zeus who like yahweh was a rapist and murderer
"Devil" is religion too
Brainwashing. Religious people can’t quite grasp the fact that they’ve been brainwashed. Religious people are the perfect example of how brainwashing works. Brainwashing is not just about tricking the mind its about making you desire to believe what you’ve been taught is correct no matter what, no matter what logic says, no matter what the truth is, they’ve branded it under the disguise of having faith. Religions are proven to be ancient brainwashing tools used by past leaders to provide them influence and power over its population. “If you don’t do this in a certain way you will go to hell”, “If you don’t this do this in a certain way it’s a sin and god will find you punishment”. “If you do this in a certain way god will reward you”, “If you do this in a certain way god will save you”. its an almost perfect scheme. Today humans still create this brainwashing techniques but we don’t call it religion any longer and we don’t based it upon the fictional and the spiritual any longer. I know what you religion folks are thinking right now god will send people in your life to test your faith and you shall not cede to it you must keep believing, you must keep believing, you must keep believing always no matter what or god will find you punishment. Thats is one of the most impressive principles of brainwashing at its finest the people who created religion knew precisely what they were doing. Always prepare them for the inevitable confrontation with people who will speak truth to them that is one of the most important rules of brainwashing. It’s astonishing and terrifying at the same time. I know that the grand majority of religious people will chose to ignore and not take this statement to heart as it takes a ridiculous amount of mental strength, suffering and determination to undo brainwashing. Most individuals as an innate defense mechanism will never allow themselves to be subjugated to such process they will chose to ignore it like a kid would ignore a warning from their teacher. Because the truth of human kind is that as long as they feel happy and safe they will most of the time chose to ignore the truth. And thats why usually the ignorants are also the happiest but bottom line you are still living under a lie a safe delusion. But then you also understand why modern nations such as western countries, China, Russia and Japan and every country and society that doesn’t have its political and educational system attached to a fictional and old minded brainwashing scheme of centuries ago is so much more developed than countries whose education and politics is bound to religion such as most Muslim countries for example…Modern societies of today in the west, China, Russia, Japan and others of the sort its about innovation of ideas while others such as in the middle east it’s about preservation of ancient ideas. Muslim countries will always be far below the rest of the world in science, societal development and general quality of life as long as they don’t realize that religion was made to be appreciated and not followed blindly like a cult. You are only gonna push yourself down as long as you keep preserving ideas of centuries ago completely outdated for todays reality and needs. Innovation is the birth of new information and information is the source of power and there is barely to almost none of it in Muslim middle eastern countries pushed by their enforcement of religion in both politics and education.
Delusional clown here.
Children belives in Santa but then they grow up
If anyone is upset by this….plug your ears and just repeat your mantra, “my book says it is so”
Dawkins : Faith is beleif in something without evidence.
Also him : Believing in his own philosophy without *evidence* .
Oh really? Demonstrate this then. I'll wait.
@@philscott3759 How to demonstrate his views if he has no evidence ?
If u have , kindly provide .
@@_j_7709 Answer my question, don't deflect.
@@philscott3759 i am not , i am being serious , I just turned the tables and chairs .
Give evidence .
He has spent his entire career giving the reasons and evidence for what he believes.
Religions are like guns. Good sometimes and bad other times
Faith literally means to have belief in God with plenty of evidence you are very blinded.
@@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth Defined by who? Have you checked with a dictionary?
@@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruthyou have no idea what faith is and there is no evidence of God
@@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth
then it wouldn’t be faith anymore, would it?
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Dawkins wakes up and he doesn't know that he will get to his job, because he could be hit by a car in the process, but he has faith that he will be there...
I don’t think that’s true. He defined faith as belief without evidence, but he certainly has evidence that he has successfully gotten to work safely many times. He knows enough about cars to know that there’s a chance he could be in an accident, but he also knows that the success rate of his current method of getting to work has a high chance of getting him there safely. He doesn’t have faith he will be there, he has evidence to support that it’s likely he will.
More like confidence not to get himself killed lol
Are you saying that god’s will, more than your brain, is getting you to work? …OK, but God’s will also made you watch a Dawkins video establishing that faith is BS… Don’t you see a clear message here?
@@lamaisontokyo4696 the subject was faith in something not what is God's will.
He has reasonable expectations, not faith. If he used faith, he wouldn't bother to get a job, because his faith should feed him and pay his bills.
You can believe in something without evidence, but when you judge others and tell them you are wrong based on certain rules and codes of conduct and dress then we have a problem.
The problem with this is that sometimes you don't have enough information and the next fact could change your tune. That means that you could be wrong even if you choose the most apparently consistent heap of facts. Sometimes life demands a decision based on sub-optimal information, and that means you have to take a risk even if you don't have evidence.
Navigating life isn't just about facts, it's about payoffs and avoiding scenarios or searching for specific scenarios and all of these require that you see past the facts and make decisions. And results matter a lot. Often more than the process to arive there. Life may not wait for you to weigh the facts for and against.
Faith is not belief without evidence - that's superstition. Faith is trusting in what you have found reasonable to believe in.
@@paulkiernan3256 nice cop out: "reasonable to believe in". Very self-referential superstition. Did you burn some sage before that comment too?
Dawkins makes a tremendous assumption that faith is "Belief without Evidence." He declares it to be evil, which is a judgement based on his faith in his own prejudices.
Dawkins ignores all of the great advances born of the sciences born if the Catholic Church which taught that the world is a logical, understandable place that we can study and come closer to the Creator.
He more sinisterly ignores that religion is not the source of horror he makes it out to be; but atheistic politics such as Naziism and, even worse, Marxisms' children: Communism and Socialism have racked up a far darker record in 105 years than religion has in the entire history of humanity on this globe.
Let him find out that we can't know it all. "The conscient observer" problem demonstrates that we can't reason everything in this world. So faith might be slightly more necessary than we think.
The catholic church?! Hitler was a catholic. And the catholic church was persecuting jews long before the nazis.
I'm curious as to where did you get your history books from...
None of the scientific discoveries or theories facilitated by the Catholic Church relied on faith or God as a premise.
Also, Nazim wasn't atheistic. It's well documented that Hitler, who may have been an atheist himself, nevertheless relied heavily on references to God and "the creator", both in his book and in his speeches.
Also he tried to propagate a brand of Christianity that removed its reliance on Judaism and Jesus who was a Jew.
Not to mention that all of the men and women who carried out the atrocities of the Holocaust were CHRISTIAN, not atheist.
Do your reseach.
While your at it, research how the murder of 6 million Jews by Hitler was the natural culmination of the atrocious treatment of jews in Christendom from the 12th Century onwards. The relentless murdering and raping of the Jewish people by Christians is a ghastly legacy the Christians today pretend doesn't exist.
The extermination of the Jews by the Nazis was called "the Final Solution" for a reason.
Also, if you racked up thr body count of religion in all human history you would get a figure that dwarfs any body count that would be attributed to athriesm.
Fron the ghastly human sacrifices of the Ancient Aztec societies to the religious wars in Europe, the Crusades, Holocaust, and the death of thousands upon thousands in Africa from AIDS due to Catholic Doctrine, etc.
That figure would shame every thiest trying to claim you need god to be moral.
That's not an assumption. You're arguing semantics...
Faith = Ignorance! HARD FACT!
Religion in itself is not bad; it's the way it goes through people's heads. Jesus taught love and forgiveness, and had no enemies, divine or not he was still the greatest human being to have ever lived.
There is no proof whatsoever that a man called Jesus even existed.
@@jpats6124 Roman historian said otherwise tho
Religion has and still is one of humanities biggest killers.
The problem with Mr. Dawkins argument is that he has it totally backwards. The absence of faith in God is what allows men to do anything that comes to their imagination. Faith in God recognizes the creator and his influence over mankind that recognize him as their Savior and Lord.
What do you mean by anything that comes to their imagination?
@@stipe9k well many of the regimes that did the most horrific things in the 20th century were ether hostile or out right waged war against the religious in there nations. The soviets destroyed thousands of churches and mosques forbid open worship and encouraged its subjects to rat on anyone suspected of harbouring faith. The nazis made an attempt essentially towards the end to revitalise a new “pagan” religion specific to German people. Because they know that a strong Christian population would be a force they’d have to eventually come up against.
Am I saying atheism is the course of all these evils , the 100s of millions killed. NO what I am saying is people , especially with power will always enforce there beliefs on its subjects.
@@unoriginal_username1 What does that have to do with my question? I asked the OP what he meant by that particular sentence.
@@satellitecannon9463: Trying to equate Christianity and Judaism with Islam will get you nowhere philosophically, and is entirely and 100% in accurate. If you read the Quran and other of the Islamic “holy“ books you will find out that the god that Islam is centered around is the polar opposite of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit and all biblical teaching. And if you do not want to believe in the God of the Bible, that’s your choice. But don’t come crying to me when you’re standing in front of God trying to explain to him why you did not believe his word over the word of a false and fake profit.
@@stipe9k: Both renderings would be accurate.
Evil is to use your faith to harm people
Intelligence and education are apparently no barrier to ignorance.
Classic Dawkins: Invoke Evil (a theistic concept) to debunk religion. 😂
Evil is a moral concept. And guess what, your nonsense traditions don't have a monopoly on morality.
Wow, I was going to make some argument. But after reading the comments, I found out I don't need to. People already have great awareness 👏
Sheep are in the many, if you would follow religion then you're already going against your God by using internet, technology and medicine. Please stop using these if you're religious and follow your faith for healing and not the devil.
@@hatoftricks7132 I don't what religion are you talking about, but I am confident its not mine. All the current science you are currently studying were invented by my religion follower in their golden age. Lol, even the numbers you are currently writing 1234567890 were invented by a Muslim Scientiest.
Its okay to be ignorant, but its a huge mistake for an ignorant person to think he is all knowing :)
Here is a tiny food of thoughts and a simple search in youtube would have saved both of us a lot of hustle
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Only some people.
Yes, most people know religion is bollox. So many unfortunate people surrounded by nonsense and see no way out of it, especially when getting out of it is dangerous for your well-being. Religion poisons everything.
As he doesn’t provide any evidences for most of his cases, yet, he often tries to rationalise Islam to render him evidence as though that’s all are miraculous essence of the Quran!
The issue with Richard Dawkins' statement about faith as belief without evidence is that it presents a simplistic and incomplete understanding of the concept of faith and how it operates within religious traditions. Here are some specific points of critique:
1. Mischaracterization of faith: Dawkins defines faith solely as belief without evidence, implying that religious individuals and communities base their beliefs on blind acceptance or ignorance. However, this overlooks the nuanced and multifaceted nature of faith, which can involve a range of factors including personal experiences, philosophical reasoning, historical evidence, and the interpretation of sacred texts. Faith is not solely about disregarding evidence but can involve a broader spectrum of intellectual and experiential considerations.
2. Ignoring different forms of evidence: Dawkins' statement implies that faith exists in opposition to evidence and rational argumentation. However, religious individuals often interpret their religious experiences, philosophical reasoning, and community traditions as forms of evidence supporting their beliefs. While this may not align with empirical or scientific evidence, it does not mean that religious believers are devoid of all evidential considerations in forming their faith.
3. Disregard for philosophical and theological debates: Dawkins' statement dismisses the rich history of philosophical and theological engagement that has shaped religious traditions. Many religious believers have engaged in extensive debates and intellectual discourse to examine and defend their beliefs. Faith, in this context, is not an abandonment of reason but an active participation in ongoing discussions and interpretations within religious communities.
4. Oversimplification of religious discourse: Dawkins suggests that belief without evidence shuts down the possibility of argumentation and critical engagement. However, religious individuals and scholars engage in rigorous debates, apologetics, and theological discussions that involve reasoning, interpretation, and reflection. Dismissing faith as inherently non-argumentative overlooks the diversity of perspectives and the rich intellectual tradition within religious communities.
5. Neglecting personal and subjective aspects of faith: Faith is often a deeply personal and subjective experience for individuals, and it goes beyond purely intellectual reasoning. It can encompass emotional, existential, and transcendent dimensions that may not be fully captured by an evidence-based approach. Dawkins' focus on empirical evidence fails to account for the deeply personal and transformative nature of religious faith for many individuals.
In summary, Dawkins' characterization of faith as belief without evidence oversimplifies the concept and fails to acknowledge the range of intellectual, experiential, and philosophical considerations that can inform religious belief. It overlooks the diversity of religious perspectives and disregards the personal, subjective, and philosophical aspects of faith that play a significant role in the lives of religious individuals and communities.
What a baseless and utterly false opinion. People do things for all reasons. If one did not have religion to justify their evil then they’d find another justification.
The problem isn’t religion. It’s people. Smh.
Who tf do you think invented religion? SMFH.
@@philscott3759 and? Your point is moronic because it still proves my point, PEOPLE are the problem. So blaming religion like Dawkins here is what’s called a CONFLATION. Lol
SMFH 🤦♂️
@@philscott3759 then you're just proving his point.
The problem is people, but religion makes that problem worse. It clearly is the case that religious people routinely commit atrocities thinking they're doing gods work.
One example is the Catholic Chuch banning condoms in the context of third world countries experiencing AIDS epidemics.
How many have people died needless, cruel, painful deaths because of that preachment?
That's a crime only religion could commit.
Dawkins, “if you don’t believe like me, you’re evil”. How ironically ignorant.
@@Kevin-pv6px He... Does... NOT... BELIEVE in evolution. He THINKS evolution is an accurate description of the origin of species on planet Earth based on the evidence we've found thus far. Guess what, if new, unequivocal evidence were to be found in the future disproving evolution, then, scientists would immediately drop that hypothesis with no hard feelings. There are scientists who have spent DECADES trying to figure out a scientific theory and have failed. Guess what, they don't kill themselves. They just discovered a dead-end in science and that's just as good as any other discovery.
He explicitly did not say that. He clearly stated that theists are neither intellectually inferior to him or bad people.
You just heard what you wanted to hear.
He would never say believe without evidence and his beliefs are rooted in evidence which upon new information can be updated to have a better idea of truth having faith in religion and gods is simply being ignorant middle ages sheep
He never said that...
Well… seeing how calm, collected, articulate dude is, I would have to agree. Religion has done so many evils in the world. IF IT IS PERSONAL, PRIVATE, YOURS, THEN LET’S LEAVE IT THAT WAY. End of discussion.
Genius is undeniable
I'm an athiest, not one faith has any clear evidence.
I have faith that my wife loves me but there is no evidence or proof that she loves me.
Correct. This is a gamble you choose to take. Cant blame others for not wanting to do things based on gambles
We know Robert
That’s dangerous and willful ignorance
Her behavior is evidence.
she might be cheating
No matter what is taught and believed, there will always be evil men doing evil things. But in order for good men to do evil things you need faith.
This is a paraphrase of someone else's quote