00:01 Comparison of EVH 5150 LBX Stealth and Peavey 6505MH mini heads. 02:46 Differences in power sections and tube types affect tone 04:17 Comparing ease of dialing in tone and gain characteristics 05:43 Modifying 6505 MH with 5751 preamp tubes for better gain 07:48 EVH sounds thin and bright, needs EQ tweaking. 10:18 Scooping the mids affects the sound differently in EVH 5150 LBX Stealth and Peavey 6505MH 13:41 EVH 5150 LBX Stealth sounds better overall. 16:45 The EVH 5150 LBX Stealth is preferred over the Peavey 6505MH Crafted by Merlin AI.
Great vid! Actually think the 6505 sounds better and bigger in the lower tuning. However, would love to see you throw in an EMP 81 in the mix also for reference. Some people only/mostly play actives.
For standard E with the Solar, I think the EVH reigned Supreme in almost every aspect. But when you switched to the LP in Drop C my opinion swayed more toward the Peavey. It sounded more full with that Guitar while the EVH was a bit brighter, not as full and a bit chewy. Maybe with some tweaking the EVH could handle it but it certainly made me think a little more on which one I prefered.
I like the 6505 better, which I didn't expect. But the thing I most didn't expect is that I prefer the 5153 on the LP and the 6505 I prefer on the solar
Something I'd like to see EVH do is make maybe a 30 watt version but with full size power tubes, kinda like what Marshall did with the Studio amps. My JCM800 SC20 is the best amp I have ever owned and it's loud enough for gigging
The jcm800 sc20h is garbage. The lack of gain is ridiculous. Even with an sd-1 in front. For half the price you could get the EVH stealth lunch box which appears to have much more gain, it sounds like a modded marshall.
I had the 65605mh and the LBXii (not the stealth) I liked them both but the LBX probably edged it, I moved away completely from lunchbox type heads though, as my fryette PS-100 is such a fantastic attenuator I have no problem just buying full size big boy heads now
so the million-dollar question then becomes - is the extra money for the 100W worth the headroom or low end? cause obviously they cost almost double as the lunchbox.. I'm in the same situation like you, and if you have an attenuator/load box, you don't really a lot of master volume to hit the sweet spot.. I have a 100W JCM900 and a Mini Dual Rec I run into a Torpedo Live, to hit the sweetspot with the 100W amp takes a bit of input gain tweaking to record at optimal levels...
I'll never get the "6-6-6" settings on any 5150. To me, the mid knob on those works on just the right frequencies where if you turn it down, it doesn't sounds scooped. It just sounds better, LOL. Even Eddie liked to run it low.
U love your speed metal. Almost never hear any chunky moderate tempo stuff. its fast fast fast fast . But I understand people play how they feel. I cant break very far away from my old school dimebag-ish type playing for very long. Just saying that style. But sometimes I LIKE TO just hita fat chord & let it ringout & enjoy each frequency as long as it will ride.
Totally done with EL84 amps. It's been shown time and time again that small, lunchbox amps can easily be done with 6L6's. Take the MT15, Fireball 25, Victory Kraken 50, for example.
I enjoyed this matchup. I played through 5150/6505 heads for over 20 years and it's hard to not watch when you see those numbers pop up. And I have to agree on the output tubes. Both of these amps have really good sounding pre sections. But I wouldn't give up my MT15 for either one of them.
@@belligerentamateur, it's hard to go wrong with any 5150/EVH amp. They may not have the cache value of the higher priced stuff but you can't argue with the impact that they have had within the metal community.
EVH sounded like a full proper amp where as 6505MH sounded woolly in the bass, while also being boxy, veiled and underwhelming, I used to own a real 6505 and was excited when peavey announced this as running a 6505 at home is way to loud even with an attenutator but was really disappointed with all the sound demos I heard of the 6505MH, The invective MH definitely sounds a lot better than the 6505MH, However I feel like I enjoy the warmer/sweeter 5150iii stealth sound over the kind of dry, cold and analytical sounding invective MH
Peavey sounds like it has a blanket over it, it sounds good but it just has that muffled feel to it and not in a good way ... EVH wins on all counts for me.
What tubes are in the 6505MH? My guess is they are not JJ like the EVH has? I like the features of the 6505 a lot more over the EVH and if just putting in JJ's solves that "muffled" effect i am OK with that.
@@belligerentamateur this mini head (6505) can handle big stage? I will use it (direct to PA) use Two Notes Torpedo Live (cab and speaker monitor simulation)
@@belligerentamateur You are right! I have self made preamp based on ENGL Savage and Randall Satan. There something same at harmonics and all are great!
Yea i went through a boatload of amps until i bought the 6505mh. I was playing it through the matching 1×12 celestion greenback and didnt like that speaker. But got lucky a found a like new mesa boogie 2×12 with the mesa v30s. For 300$ localy. now it sounds brutal but articulate. Pairs well with tubescreamer and boss ns2 noise suppressor
I want to try out the peavey invective 120 or the h&k switchblade in the future. But for now gonna try some pre amps and maybe some different boosts. Even though I like my tone it's more of like a early 90s late 80's Metallica tone I'd like something more modern Progressive so that's why I want to try some new preamps before I spend too much money on different heads cuz I do like the 6505 MH it's a great amp but I think it could do better with some different pedals my Ibanez ts9dx turbo Tube Screamer works great and has great tone but I want something more modern even though I'm still satisfied basically
Im just gonna skip these lunch box heads altogether. For a practice amp i will use a joyo zombie for convenience but u typically use the 5150iii 50 watt amps for practice and thats in a single bedroom apartment. They sound great while quiet
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00:01 Comparison of EVH 5150 LBX Stealth and Peavey 6505MH mini heads.
02:46 Differences in power sections and tube types affect tone
04:17 Comparing ease of dialing in tone and gain characteristics
05:43 Modifying 6505 MH with 5751 preamp tubes for better gain
07:48 EVH sounds thin and bright, needs EQ tweaking.
10:18 Scooping the mids affects the sound differently in EVH 5150 LBX Stealth and Peavey 6505MH
13:41 EVH 5150 LBX Stealth sounds better overall.
16:45 The EVH 5150 LBX Stealth is preferred over the Peavey 6505MH
Crafted by Merlin AI.
I like putting the presence way up and adjusting the treble to taste on the Stealth
Great vid! Actually think the 6505 sounds better and bigger in the lower tuning. However, would love to see you throw in an EMP 81 in the mix also for reference. Some people only/mostly play actives.
Matt Damon can chug! 😁
At least I'm not the only one thinking that.
I agree 100%, when you start to raise the volume on these types of amps, they get thinner and loose clarity. Same with the PV Invective.
It's unfortunately just a characteristic of the small el84 based power sections on these things. The tubes just don't have headroom
The stealth doesn’t lose as much bottom end as you would think. The volume taper is way better than the previous ones
How about the 6505 on the rhythm channel with the pre gain up, crunch button engaged running an OD pedal?
For standard E with the Solar, I think the EVH reigned Supreme in almost every aspect. But when you switched to the LP in Drop C my opinion swayed more toward the Peavey. It sounded more full with that Guitar while the EVH was a bit brighter, not as full and a bit chewy. Maybe with some tweaking the EVH could handle it but it certainly made me think a little more on which one I prefered.
I thought the 6505 went really boxy sounding on drop c, the evh remained tight and clear which would help in even lower tuning or with a 7 string.
I bought a Peavey 6505 MH over the EVH LBX S. The Peavey has great features and tone.
6505 has better features, but stealth just looks SO much cooler… tbh I’d go stealth solely for the LEDs
Seems I'm in the minority, but I like the 6505 better, even though my main rig uses an EVH 5150iii.
I like the 6505 better, which I didn't expect. But the thing I most didn't expect is that I prefer the 5153 on the LP and the 6505 I prefer on the solar
@@TheMid1001 my exact same opinion. Good ear my friend
I think they both sound good!
Thanks for the video Kyle!!
Loving your channel man! I’m really enjoying it! Keep it up!
Thanks my man. Appreciate you!
@@belligerentamateur 🤘🤘
They both sounds great. But I choose the Stealth 50. No doubt. More money... Yes, but it's worth it.
The video I was waiting to see on some channel!
Thanks for the content. They both sound great, but for me the EVH is the goal \m/
The 6505 need an eq in the loop or a sonic maximizer to push what it lacks like the XXX amps.
Damn, That LP really brought the guts out of the 6505. Thanks for brining that out.
Great Video! Nice editing and riffing :) Very entertaining. I like both of them, depends on what you need
Thanks man! Agreed, neither is a bad choice!
I know you don’t like to pick winners, but you are a winner in my book, along with the evh. Nice video!
Haha! I'll take it man, thank you!
Something I'd like to see EVH do is make maybe a 30 watt version but with full size power tubes, kinda like what Marshall did with the Studio amps. My JCM800 SC20 is the best amp I have ever owned and it's loud enough for gigging
I assume since this comment you’ve seen the 5150 iconic series right? The 40w combo is awesome!!!
Exactly
@@ryderr7914 iconic sound different and not as good as 5150iii
Did you put a hot mod v2 in it?
The jcm800 sc20h is garbage. The lack of gain is ridiculous. Even with an sd-1 in front. For half the price you could get the EVH stealth lunch box which appears to have much more gain, it sounds like a modded marshall.
I wish EVH would make like the EVH 5153 50w in like a 20-30w version that will have most of the 50w versions but not be as loud and heavy
I had the 65605mh and the LBXii (not the stealth) I liked them both but the LBX probably edged it, I moved away completely from lunchbox type heads though, as my fryette PS-100 is such a fantastic attenuator I have no problem just buying full size big boy heads now
so the million-dollar question then becomes - is the extra money for the 100W worth the headroom or low end? cause obviously they cost almost double as the lunchbox..
I'm in the same situation like you, and if you have an attenuator/load box, you don't really a lot of master volume to hit the sweet spot.. I have a 100W JCM900 and a Mini Dual Rec I run into a Torpedo Live, to hit the sweetspot with the 100W amp takes a bit of input gain tweaking to record at optimal levels...
@@vadsmixinglab11 For me yes 100% even playing at home, but I def see the appeal to people owning lbx type heads as well
For the hundred dollar difference I’d go for the evh,plus it just looks tougher
I'll never get the "6-6-6" settings on any 5150. To me, the mid knob on those works on just the right frequencies where if you turn it down, it doesn't sounds scooped. It just sounds better, LOL. Even Eddie liked to run it low.
Genalux Gold Lion el84s sound amazing
U love your speed metal. Almost never hear any chunky moderate tempo stuff. its fast fast fast fast . But I understand people play how they feel. I cant break very far away from my old school dimebag-ish type playing for very long. Just saying that style. But sometimes I LIKE TO just hita fat chord & let it ringout & enjoy each frequency as long as it will ride.
Thanks man. Subbed
This is such a close call. The peavey sounds way fuller to me but the evh sounds so good in a thinner fashion. Honestly I like both, a lot!
EVH just better in all areas good video 🤘rock on
Totally done with EL84 amps. It's been shown time and time again that small, lunchbox amps can easily be done with 6L6's. Take the MT15, Fireball 25, Victory Kraken 50, for example.
I enjoyed this matchup. I played through 5150/6505 heads for over 20 years and it's hard to not watch when you see those numbers pop up.
And I have to agree on the output tubes. Both of these amps have really good sounding pre sections. But I wouldn't give up my MT15 for either one of them.
Not doubt man, huge 5150 fan myself! Agreed on the MT15 as well
@@belligerentamateur, it's hard to go wrong with any 5150/EVH amp. They may not have the cache value of the higher priced stuff but you can't argue with the impact that they have had within the metal community.
Love your tennis ball guitar 🎾
Great Video KYLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey dude, is the EVH loud enough to be played within a 3 piece metal band?
EVH sounded like a full proper amp where as 6505MH sounded woolly in the bass, while also being boxy, veiled and underwhelming, I used to own a real 6505 and was excited when peavey announced this as running a 6505 at home is way to loud even with an attenutator but was really disappointed with all the sound demos I heard of the 6505MH, The invective MH definitely sounds a lot better than the 6505MH, However I feel like I enjoy the warmer/sweeter 5150iii stealth sound over the kind of dry, cold and analytical sounding invective MH
I have the same guitar. The LN stands for "Lemon neon"
I guessed Lime neon so im was close 😁
Awesome! Love booth amps!
Can you compare those with Marshall DSL20?
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘🇵🇹
Yes! I have one at the moment, as a matter of fact
@@belligerentamateur Awesome!
I'll be waiting!
Thanks!
EVH sounds so alive! 🤘
Agreed, it sounds like a big boi amp!
Damnnnnn I been wanting that guitar sooo bad lol I love the bright color
It will be for sale after a make a video for it!
@@belligerentamateur brooo im extremely interested man. How are u selling it since I'm all the way in Vegas
@@belligerentamateur why are you selling the Solar?
Hi Kyle can you use the evh 5150 silent like the 6505 as That is how I use the 6505 direct out silent mode into two notes
EVH in my opinion, I like the tighter lower end
I'm 5 seconds in and the EVH already sounds better
I liked the Peavey more, it's not so thin sounding.
Awesome you shred. Can you try the new version of the 6505mh.
What is the New version ? Do you have a Link? Thanks
I can't wait to get my hands on a solar guitar. 🤘
This one is rad! And the color is growing on me!
@@belligerentamateur s2.6 e2 6 are the ones I want the most 🤘🤘
The EVH all the way!!!!
Need a comparison of the 5150iii vs the imvective mh
I would love either but I bought LBX-S because of more preamp tubes lol
What did you think of the EVH 5150III LBXII 15-watt compared to the stealth?
You shall see very soon, my friend!
What should the bias be set at on the EVH?
6505 sounds much smoother and pleasant to my ears. I cant stant too much that buzzy high mids.
Peavey sounds like it has a blanket over it, it sounds good but it just has that muffled feel to it and not in a good way ... EVH wins on all counts for me.
Evh is so tight! Stealth is the right name in my opinion
Love the riffs! 666 settings ALL THE WAY!
I thought it would summon THE BEAST. But it only summoned my angry neighbor
waiting for lbx white vs lbx s comparison video :)
Can you play anything other than metal to show versatile of these amps
What tubes are in the 6505MH? My guess is they are not JJ like the EVH has?
I like the features of the 6505 a lot more over the EVH and if just putting in JJ's solves that "muffled" effect i am OK with that.
Not just the tubes, it's in the negative feedback design of the MH. I spoke to the designer at Peavey about this.
@@belligerentamateur Thanks kyle i will just go with the evh then
Armored Amps does mods for this.
There needs to be a lunchbox amp that has full size el-34s
The MT15 and DSL20HR fall into that category!
6505mh sounds better to my ears. But maybe im biased cuz thats my head on my main rig into my mesa 2×12 and pedal board.
Man, if I’m using this mini 6505 for huge stage direct use Torpedo Live, it does? How about you?
Sorry dude, not sure what you're asking!
@@belligerentamateur this mini head (6505) can handle big stage? I will use it (direct to PA) use Two Notes Torpedo Live (cab and speaker monitor simulation)
Good video but the title in the lower right says EVH 6505 through entire video. Threw me off.
The light switches from side to side depending on what amp is selected. One side is red. One side is green.
I will pick Evh,I think sounds better than 6505mh...man,i really need a comparison between PRS MT 15 and ENGL Fireball 25!!
I need to find the Fireball 25 myself!
My guess is the LN means Lime Neon?
Yes!
Do you tried mix of ENGL and Peavey tones?
Not yet! Theyre already so similar in the world of amps, I try to pair amps that are different to cover more frequencies!
@@belligerentamateur You are right! I have self made preamp based on ENGL Savage and Randall Satan. There something same at harmonics and all are great!
I had both the first lbx and the 6505mh. The mh sounded better at super low volumes but I liked the lbx more overall though
Yea i went through a boatload of amps until i bought the 6505mh. I was playing it through the matching 1×12 celestion greenback and didnt like that speaker. But got lucky a found a like new mesa boogie 2×12 with the mesa v30s. For 300$ localy. now it sounds brutal but articulate. Pairs well with tubescreamer and boss ns2 noise suppressor
I want to try out the peavey invective 120 or the h&k switchblade in the future. But for now gonna try some pre amps and maybe some different boosts. Even though I like my tone it's more of like a early 90s late 80's Metallica tone I'd like something more modern Progressive so that's why I want to try some new preamps before I spend too much money on different heads cuz I do like the 6505 MH it's a great amp but I think it could do better with some different pedals my Ibanez ts9dx turbo Tube Screamer works great and has great tone but I want something more modern even though I'm still satisfied basically
stealth all day, i already picked the original LBX over the MH
Im just gonna skip these lunch box heads altogether. For a practice amp i will use a joyo zombie for convenience but u typically use the 5150iii 50 watt amps for practice and thats in a single bedroom apartment. They sound great while quiet
I vote for the Marshall
Have the PRS MT15 and it just decimates both of these especially when playing death metal
Yeah but that amps FX loop is 💩
Humbucker, DropC, 6506 no necesito más
I Like the 6505 mh better
6505 for me.
The Peavey kinda sounds trashy.
EVH has a tight fat body with a boost....I wonder how it takes the Steele Stringer??????????????????????
EVH alllll day !!!!!!!!!!!
evh
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Man. Both.
OMG DUDE ALL THE TALK
PEAVEY
I've owned two 6505 mh and within 4 months they would both overheat in 20 minutes and become unplayable.
I've heard of this issue, but never experienced myself
Do you have earlier made model?
They fixed this issue midway through 2016. It's old news.
Taking out the panel helps immensely for this.
Ahh yes....Mexico vs China🤣🤣🤣 I'll pass on both. Just cant do it. Better off buying something used thats not made in Mexico or China. USA, England or Italy all they way. Just me though ✌✌🤟🍻🍻
I didn't know Opie wuz a shredder!
😂 also a expert on all things guitar related 👍👍
This video came at a perfect time. I just recently bought the LBX-S and I've been wondering if I made the right choice over the 6505mh.
So what's your conclusion?
@@belligerentamateur I feel like I made the right choice, but both sound pretty good
Looks evh. Tone 6505