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Long term generator (or any small engine) storage
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- I need to do an update video to clear up some questions. See pinned comment for details on the amount of ATF you use and what to do if you have startup trouble the next time you use your equipment. thanks.
In this video I show the my method to prepping a small engine (in this case a generator) for long term storage using automatic transmission fluid
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Can give me an approximate amount of ATF you used..like 1 ounce...5 ounces??? Just don't want to over fill. Thanks
This is the question I wish I would have answered in the video. I need to do a follow up soon. The amount varies depending on what kind of generator and the style of carburetor is on it. I'm probably putting 2 oz of so in it. However, don't worry about putting in too much. If you put in too much, you WILL have trouble starting it next time. But all you have to do in that case is loosen the bolt on the bottom of the fuel bowl and drain out the ATF. Then tighten the bolt and it will fire right up. Thanks for your question.
@@Lordofjunk Very good advice. I had my generator stored for 3 years without starting it. My secret is doing exactly what this video suggested, but instead of transmission fluid, I sprayed some antitrust lubricant and sealed everything. This Texas ice storm forced me to take my generator out. I knew it was going to give trouble starting because of the oily stuff I left in it, so I drained out as much oily stuff as I could, put the drain bolt back in the carburetor, then put some carburetor starter, it turned on on the second crank. Easy.
Good stuff!
Good stuff!
@@Lordofjunk any update as of today? still good?
Was never a problem until we were sold the gas/ corn ethanol concoction. Corn farmers love it but forget it as a fuel.
This is A 1. You're a good teacher, just common sense.goes a long way. You're the person who will go the distance. God bless.
This is an interesting tip and makes sense.
I would *strongly* recommend that everyone watching *only* use ethanol-free gasoline for their small motors, especially ones that sit for long periods. Stabil really helped me, but I found out the hard way that spending the extra dollar per gallon for the ethanol free, and driving further to get it, saved me countless hours of fixing.
wish i could find it haved looked and can not find in a 100 rad but it is a great tip !
The other key is non-California compliant storage containers for your gas. If your gas can is vented (like nearly anything you can buy today), gas doesn’t last more than 2-3 months. An old-school Jerry can that seal up tight with ethanol-free gas and Stabil lasts at least a year.
Gasohol is extremely unpopular among lawncare workers in my area.
Marine gas is ethanol free. I use it in my small engines. Much better than regular gas.
Your exactly right I started using 93 octane ethanol free in my 2 stroke engine weed eater and chainsaw and the way they run made it well worth the cost, I also run a tankful in my truck along with marvel mystery oil and what a difference it makes in all of their running, also put MMO in the 2 stroke engine too
Lord of Junk huh? I thought that was me. Your a man after my own heart, saving the lives of countless pieces of machinery. Thanks bro.
Dude that is a brilliant tip for storing away a genny and I like your style to
2 stroke oil will do the same thing on 2 stroke engines, chain saws, pumps that sort of tool. Amazing!
just subscribed,and gave a like....old school WORKS.And "frugal" is smart...I live in the woods in Oregon, and all my neighbors are like you (fortunately)
but,I run everything off propane....;-)
This is the best advice I have heard for long term storage!
I'll go you one better. I'm 71 and have been using ATF as a fuel system cleaner most of my life. I've never yet had a problem with fuel injectors clogging up and a bonus it will clean combustion chambers of carbon buildup as well. Many years ago GM sold a similar product that was poured in the Carb. Smoked like a train till it burned off but did the job. 6-8 oz. every 6-8 weeks does quite well. Reason behind this line of thought is ATF burns at a hotter temp than gas. Got my first ASE cert in 74 working at a Pontiac/Buick dealership. An old acquaintance of my dads that worked there told me about this ATF. Doesn't matter what kind whatever is cheapest.
I'm 73 and my dad taught me to use ATF in the fuel..
Do you pour it in carb or in fuel tank?
Can't use the synthetic in anything with an o2 sensor
I'm 65, I remember people mixing ATF with cheaper non-detergent motor oil to get the detergent effect.
I'm 62 and remember pouring a small stream of atf down the carb of a car while it's running to help clean up the valves. White smoke billowed out the pipes for a minute. Old motorhead taught me to do that.
Old school is good school. Even though I had turned off the fuel valve and let my generator run until the fuel was exhausted, there still just enough fuel in the carburetor bowl to foul the cut-off solenoid and maybe other carb parts as well. This was after just 3-4 months since last use. A small amount of ATF in there is GENIUS. Thank you for this tip.
Used to pour ATF down the carb of cars at the dealership back in the day. Smoked like hell but it would clean up the top end. Pour it down the gullett until it just about stalled then stop and bring rpms back up and repeat. That's how we did it back in the 1900s anyway.
It is a good trick. My grandad taught me this trick many years ago. I can still smell the ATF when I hear you talk about it.
Awesome. Ain’t too many things I love better than “old school.” Like treating sore throats with Gentian Violet. Ya know? Or ballpoint ink stains with Fels Naptha.
I've also used Marvel Mystery oil as well, but ATF does last longer. I keep Stabil in my fuel tank, but swap it out every 6 months. With some metal gas tanks, they can rust from the inside out, since most tanks are vented. Fuel rotation is part of my spring/fall maint. routine. Good tip though.
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I've been in engine repair forever I learned something today thanks
Good tip. For any small engine, get the ethanol-free gas if you can. It remains stable a whole lot longer than gas with ethanol in it.
Get propane it last 10 years and cleaner
@@joseywells9616 I finish off the run-dry by using propane fed into the intake to allow the engine to run completely out and purge all traces of gasoline from the carb.
That works on start up also with fuel pump systems that need to run for a while to prime up, so it doesn't need to be cranked for a long time.
I have never heard of that before... interesting :)@@dubmob151
OLD SCHOOL Is right, my family had boats back in the 1960's,cabin cruisers, at the end of teh seasonwe would "fog out" teh engine bu pouring ATF into the carburetor while the engine was running at idle until it chockedd it out, this would coat the carb and the entire internal combustion parts and in the spring it would take a shot of starting fluid but it would fire over with a puff of white smoke and be good to go. We would always clean teh plugs after the first use.
Learned this from old school mechanic, put a quart of ATF in the fuel tank of your vehicle (20 gallon) every 3 to 4 months and it decarbon the engine and cleans the entire fuel system. I use this method on my motorcycle as well. Never smokes and runs fine. Apparently ATF is about a 5 to 10 weight oil and very high detergent and that's why it works so well. It really is a cheap tune up in a bottle that really works!!
It may clean the engine so good it may start leaking oil around the seals cuz some of that varnish seals the oil leaks
A gallon of diesel fuel per 10 gallons of gas tank volume will do the same. Do it or your method when you are going to be on the X-way and at higher rpm for extended time. The junk gets hotter and burns off better.
Sounds good, I got like 3 gallons of slightly used mercon v sitting around. I use it for stuck fasteners, wiping down my shovels and picks etc. now I got something else! And I’m all about one man’s trash is another man’s treasure
Class truck with 855 cubic inch cummins.
Wet sleeve.
Dumped all coolant out.
Filled up system with ATF. Run it for 150 miles never got hot.
Parked for 10 years. Put new batts. Fuel and started right up.
ATF works every time.
I stored a "special" big block ford for 30 yrs by filling the WHOLE BLOCK FULL of atf! The crankcase up to the sparkplug holes, the intake!! Right up to the carb mount. The valves right up to the oil fill spout AND the pcv on the other bank. Kept it like new! ! Might have to plug the dipstick end or dipstick hole. Left water passages alone.
*** It worked awesome! *** Might have to add a tad once in a great while.
Another one is to mix ATF and Chainsaw bar oil. If you have an engine that you want to store for a while, squirt a few pumps from an oil can in each cylinder. Turn the engine over a couple of times and replace the plugs. Back off the rockers so the springs aren't compressed and wrap it up good with plastic (and a sock full of kitty litter in the bags) and that engine will be good for years.
Another good use is if you buy a used engine from a yard, a squirt of ATF in each cylinder will clean the cylinder and give it more sealing to start easier. When I worked at a junkyard in the 80s, we would just pour some through the carburetor. You would get an engine installed and if it didn't hit on the first spin, two or three of the guys would yell 'Give it some Compression'! That meant to give it a dose of ATF. I hope these uses are handy, John
On the older cars the transmission modulator valve when it had a busted diaphram would leak and you see white smoke galore, but it cleans the heck out of engine internally, witnessed by engine tear-down...YES ATF is great and does keeps seals soft and combustion chamber clean and also lubricates. BTW I love to go junkin too in my younger days and the wife always complained, after Hurricane Ida all my junking supplied almost everything we needed , she said she would never again complain about the stuff I keep !!! Only problem is finding WHAT you need WHEN you need it !!! LOL !!!
IKR!!!! Now where did I put those float bowl gaskets for that old briggs???
yup.....murphys' law. Clean / clear out the garage-shop, and the next day, you needed that hose/fitting/plastic tub/etc for another project....
Back in tech school ,one of the kids bought a 400$ American land yacht, it might have been a Lincoln.
Anyways,we ran the washer bottle hose to the air intake and filled it with ATF.
We woulda made James Bond proud 😂
My friend had a Jeep CJ 5 that was really getting low on oil pressure and had tons of crankcase pressure built up! Blowing dip stick out of engine.He read about some miracle engine restorer method in Popular Mechanics or one of those magazines .It involved pouring a mixture of ATF ,Water,and some other ingredients I can't recall just now. It was supposed to decarbon and restore engine functions. We tried it one day ,I ran the engine while he poured solution into carburetor .My job ,not let it stall! Well it fogged up about an acre lot and coughed,sputtered etc. The oil pressure came back up a little ,and motor ran about another year.I think there still are no insects out his way 35 years later.
You remind me of my dad. When he died at age 91, we had the estate sale. He had 8 weed eaters, 10 lawnmowers, about four air compressors and several other pieces of equipment. He had picked them out of the garbage that his neighbors were throwing away. I can’t tell you how many of his neighbors came to his house at the sale and heard them say, “why, that used to mine and it broke so I threw it away”. Then they would tell us how it ended up in his sale….and they all worked.
My dad had the resources to buy just about any push mower he wanted. We used a lawn mower somebody threw out. In the beginning, it started well. By the time I was in high school, it didn't start that well although it still worked. The old farmers in the Midwest use ATF for a lot of things. They even spray it in the wheel wells and underbodies to prevent rust in the winter. I use Iso-Heet in the red bottle to store my lawn mower over the winter. It contains isopropyl alcohol and fights varnish. I will share this with my relatives that ended up with my parent's generator.
Probably a good cheap trick but you should pull the spark plug/plugs and put a couple tablespoons full into each cylinder and spin the engine over a few times to coat the cylinder walls. Rust prevention and will help with stuck rings from storage. And if you’re from anywhere mud dauber wasps are present, wrapping the entire thing with stretch wrap (the stuff they wrap pallets with to ship) to keep them from building nests in critical parts.
Something else to do for storing equipment for emergency use, keep enough oil to service it, an oil filter (if applicable) and a new air filter. Many times foam air filters will break down during storage or damaged by vermin and parts may be hard to find with an emergency on the way
i agree, Mr Junk Lord. Old fashioned = LOGIC. IF it is a 'winner' , then let us just do it. Modern business, just is into 'selling' stuff. NOT re-cycling, repairing nor saving OUR EARTH. Way to go !, some of us, are in the 'reuse' department ; which is missing completely, in this modern, cheap, chinese plastic use-once, throw-away world. I have re-done carbs, on lotsa mowers/generators; some of which i had to use the wire wheel on bench grinder, to clean off crud, from stuck needle valves/floats. And vinegar soak the rest, to remove other stuck stuff (ethanol) . Good day to A L L ! ALBERTA Canada
lovin the solid axle on the nissan!!
I have a harbor freight two stroke generator that l had in storage for over 12 years. It wouldn't start after that time due to a bad capacitor. I then read that it is common for capacitors to go bad if left unused. I'm just mentioning that for those who have engines in long term storage. BTW it started up and ran fine with the new cap.
Lord knows I have some junk...but knowing that I finally found a connection to The Man about it, I feel much better..Thank you, praise the Lord....of junk!...👍.U da Man!
We use to add to car crank case to loosen up stuck valves pumping up the hydraulic lifters. Good trick
You know, I like the peace of mind that comes with running the generator every few months.
Cool trick for winterizing, cleaning engines. Check out some of the other comments too.
I'd probably try just adding some to a little fuel ànd run it till it runs out. A shut off valve is good to put in line if possible.
I accidentally discovered that with my riding mower that has a float issue. It just let's the fuel keep flowing when the engine is off so I put à shutoff in between the tank and carb ànd run it till it dies when I finish mowing. Its now over 15 years and it starts right up every season.
Never had these issues before leaded gasoline was taken off the market. Aluminum/pot metal carburetors don't like unleaded or ethanol. In the late 80s we were burning MOGAS in the gasoline engines in the Air Force. I believe it was basically leaded gasoline.
If you ever pull a carb apart that had unleaded left init you'll see all the whitish colored oxidation...basically Aluminum rust...clogging up everything. Nasty stuff. I left fuel in a motorcycle I had one winter and it never ran as well again. My tiller has a shut off built into the carburetor, but it gums up because its the same metal. You need a line shut off that won't get corroded by the fuel.
Thanks for the great tip! The comments you got were insightful too. Long term Experienced people are a great resource.
I'm sure the repair shops hate that you shared this knowledge if they are anything like air-conditioning people. They make it a practice to troll.
Thanks again!
Old school wisdom is the best kind hands down! 👍🏼👌🏼
Great video. I really like hearing about people recycling stuff. I do the same with computers. People throw them away for the dumbest reasons.
OMG I read your comment and my first thought was, "you put atf in, what, your hard drives, maybe the power supply!"? Sorry,,,,I guess I've had one too many beers!
Your comment caught me off guard, I'm not criticizing you! I still have my original IBM PC, vintage 1986ish. 64k hard soldered to the mother board with a 576k daughter card, 640K total. I died and went to heaven when I installed my Seagate ST238 30mb hard drive! I still have the green phosphor display, but I don't have the video card for it anymore, it got lost when I upgraded(?) to a cga video card. The keyboard for that weighs more than my laptop!
This works fantastic i used this method a few years ago on my generator. pulled out my generator for hurricane Ian fresh gas and a few pulls a puff of smoke and ran like a champ. my buddies dad is an oldschool mechanic and suggested it to me and now i will continue to do this on other small engines. I like to tinker with small engines as well working on a murry rider i found in the trash after the storm.
good tip as a mech back in the day i used atf to swell valve seals in motors that sat for a while just poured a few teaspoons down the carb when i got em fired up
I was talking to my neighbor yesterday about his generator and now I’m getting this.
that's a great idea, I've used ATF in my fuel tanks for my Peterbilt since the 1970s and it's worked wonders. so you are spot on brotha.
So it’s hood in diesel?
@@kenrudder9784 if you're asking if it's good for Diesel engines!! YES! ATF contains detergents that will clean out small passages like injectors. I also use it in my gas engines in the oil prior to an oil change to clean any particulates that may be in my engine passages.
After draining fuel like you do I just remove the drain bolt on the carb and drain fuel out of float area. All of them typically have this fuel drain bolt. I then use my compressor and lightly pressurize the main fuel tank (use a towel to seal tank) which then gets air through the carb and allow all fuel out that doesn’t come out when removing the bolt. You’ll see several drops sputtering out the hole. Done this for years. Never store gas in the generator - Stabil or not. Mine starts on the 1st pull. Great video.
Condor, great idea! I use 2 cycle motor oil instead of ATF but I like your idea better. Thanks.
Alright! I have all the necessary components to perform this prep. Gonna do the generator, tiller and outboard. Thanks for the tip.
Nice tip.ATF is a wonder fluid.
This same trick works with putting some engine oil in the gas, all you’re doing is diluting the Ethonol, & preventing it from clogging up.
If you take apart a 2-stroke carburetor from a larger engine with an actual bowl since the oil is in it, & not just straight gas the oil has sulfur in it, & it’s the reason why old Diesel lasts so long, & why diesel has the insane shelf life it has.
ATF has good detergents & sulfur in it making it an amazing fuel system cleaner, or stabilizer.
Actually the diesel fuel today is absolutely terrible. If you let it sit Untreated it grows Algae and plugs up everything.
A friend of ours has a Frieghtliner that she had to let sit for about 2 months because of her medical situation.
When she was clear to drive it cost her almost 2 thousand dollars to get the fuel system cleaned because of Algae.
I've got a generator that's over 12 years old and starts on the first pull. Every time I use it when finished I shut off the fuel valve and let it run dry. Open the valve and pull start it easily the next year or two. I've never bothered with oiling the cylinders just keeping the carburator clean and empty. I think by the time the engine has turned over a couple of time by the starting pull there's oil available. Unless you're getting moisture into the engine it should stay clean between uses even a year or two apart. And mine has had plenty of use during power outages. The best investment I've made was around four years ago when I purchased a whole house generator. So far in that time I think we had one power outage that lasted three hours. Who knew that buing a new generator would fix power company outages.
Sweet !!!!! starting today I will be doing this on all my small engines that I store away.
Man, that stuff is so great we put it on our coco puffs every morning man.
Just kidding....
I got my sea legs in Humboldt County, in the Redwoods.
Loggers, Fishermen and their boat out in the ocean, WE LOVE THIS KIND OF STUFF.
Thanks a lot!!!!
Another old timers trick is putting a little atf in the tank. It'll lubricate the upper cylinder and the rings on the piston.
what amount do you put in the tank? ATF:Fuel ratio?
@@yellow_panther When fluids were cheaper 2-4 ounces @ gallon.
You’re a good man with a plan! Thank you for sharing that tip. You make a valid point about atf sitting in a trans for years and keeping things clean.
I worked for a Ford dealer in the late 60s. One of the top mechanics used ATF for noisy lifters .
Great idea. Thanks. I’ll start doing that trick with my old generator
Good info video. I own a small engine repair shop. I always tell my customers to store a extra spark plug in a zip bag to the generator.
Throw in a carb kit too🙂
I am full time in small engines repair for the last 15 years. I agree with the concept of having some kind of oil in the carburetor for long storage. It can be ATF, or any thin oil, like 5W30, 10W30, even just 30. I would like to add that some carburetors have a drain bolt in addition to the main bolt holding the fuel bowl to the carburetor body. If so, I would drain the oil first till the fresh gas from the tank comes in, then close the drain bolt. If no drain bolt, no problem. Just loosen the main bolt gently, let us say first, 1/32 of a turn, or in 1/32nd increments, till the oil begins to seep out.
agree before I ever heard of Sta bil, Star Tron, Lucas, etc. when I wanted to mothball a small engine I'd just mix a little plain SAE 30 into the fuel, pour some into the spark plug hole if wanted to go crazy. Spray interior of metal gas tank with WD-40 to prevent rust, and where no fuel gauge was present to interfere, place a piece of plastic bag under the gas cap.
I own three timberland properties in two states and a sawmill (with a Kohler V-twin 747cc). I have multiple chainsaws, generator, pressure washer, and brush cutter. All my engines over winter with fuel in them. I always run premium, non-ethanol in both my four strokes and two stroke engines from the day I get them. I've never had an engine not start and run fine the next year, since 1977. I do do regular maintenance like changing the fuel filters, blowing out the air filters, changing plugs and crank oil, but other than that no issues. I'm not recommending anyone doing this, just sharing my experience.
Some good advice here ,ethanol free gas is best of course....another trick I always do is after the engine is stopped I always pull it through to TDC on the compression stroke to make sure that both intake and exhaust valves are closed (on a single cyl engine)
Same here. I run only ethanol free fuel in everything. It cost more but saves a lot of headaches.
Yup, I also use ethanol free year round.
How do you know when the piston stroke is at top dead center?
Thanks for this video! ATF is amazing stuff..I get a long tube and and drop some ATF into the bottom of the door panels on my stored Mustang to keep them from rusting. Worked great on my Ford Escape also that's known for door panel rust.
As far as storing my generator, I just use Marvel's mystery Oil in the gas and run it dry as you suggested. 8 years old and went 4 years sitting in a storage without being started and amazingly, started right up.
I stored a Chevy van for 3 years with a full tank and added stable. It started and ran without a hiccup. I did re add the stable annually! That's the secret. Add annually and you can store fuel filled thanks and engines for a real long time. Just my observation! Later!
Dude, Your my hero. I've never tried this but will. I do drain my gas tanks and run the fuel out of the motor until it stalls but that is hit or miss. I have 3 generators now that are operational and just picked up three more from the side of the road that need freshened up and a 2" water pump. I usually rebuild them and either keep em or share them with family or neighbors as I also live in a hurricane prone area. Thanks for the tip.
Thanks for the tip. I’m always looking for better ways to store Small engine equipment. Good vid.
I use atf in my high pressure paint sprayer so don’t have to take it apart to get paint residue out works great!
shit im old school mechanic was trained by a 1940s mechanic this makes so much sense its great i have used two stroke oil in similar way but that can require draining this Brillant atf one of best detergents around
This is good advice. For something that will be stored longer than 24 months, I will begin doing the same.
For shorter term I highly suggest using only gasoline that is 100% gas. NO ALCOHOL. NO ETHANOL.
And of course use the stabil. For 24 months I suggest a double dose.
Ethanol made a horrible mess in the gas tank of a car I stored.
Good video. I'm going to try it. Also A light coat of ATF fluid will bring your rubber vehicle window seals back to life. and Your rubber ball joints. Some people add some ATF to the vehicle's oil and run it for a while just before they change the oil. There are videos for all of this.
awesome video. never thought about storing small engines with ATF. That's a damn good tip.
I always take mine out every couple months and run it. But I like your idea better. Thanks 🍺👍
Awesome tip. How have I never thought of this.
Stabil has a red and a green product. Green is sold for marine applications and is better for long range storage as it actually combines with the gas. The red puts a film across the surface of the fuel to exclude oxygen. Green does that and more.
Squirt the ATF into the fuel line while the engine is still running and it will smoke a lot just before the engine dies. Then continue with cranking the engine a few times to be sure the oil fills the carb. This also lubricates the valves and cylinder walls for storage.
Boat owners use fogging oil, Stabil or QuickSilver brand both work great. Spray some in the fuel hose like you did with the ATF, spray some in the carb and pull the spark plug and fog the cylinder. Protects against oxidation, and being a spray fog it coats everything pretty thoroughly. I did a four cylinder Mercury and used about a 1/4 of the can. Nothing wrong with the ATF trick though, use what you got.
Smashed that like button dude. Theres too many old school tricks and trades that dont get passed down. People dont listen anymore especially when they're young. I'll try that in many things for winter storage from now on. Thanks for the information.
Drain the fuel tank, then drain the float bowl (usually there is a float drain screw - sometimes there is even a float drain hose). Spray fogging oil (2-stroke oil in an aerosol spray can) into the carburetor throat, then spray fogging oil into the float bowl (shoot it up the float drain hose). Tighten the float drain screw. Remove the spark plug, and spray fogging oil into the cylinder head. Crank the engine a couple times. Replace the sparkplug. DONE.
That’s what we did for prepping inboard and outboard motors on boats for winter storage. Works like a charm, never had a hard start with any customers equipment.
Yours is probably the best way to store an engine, but it's labor-intensive. With my snowblowers, generators, old tractor etc. I drain the old gas (if any), put in Stabil-ized fresh gas, run the engine briefly, and shut it down for the season. (I change oil too at the same time.) After 25 years of doing this on engines of all types I've never had a problem.
Looks like a lot more work than the ATF, sorry.
@@larrysmiths1 Most people just fog the carb. Take the air filter off with the engine running. Shut off fuel supply and spray fogging oil into breather till it dies. The biggest help is to use non ethanol fuel. If you can't find it in regular octane check out the 92 octane as many times it does not contain ethanol.
why can't you just crank the motor up once a month and let it run awhile?
Good trick to remember ... thanks for sharing. I'm about the same age as your father and one of the things I have found is to ensure my small engines never come in contact with gasoline with ethenol and a shutoff valve is helpful when storing for a long time you can simple let the bowl run dry.
A little ATF in the cylinder can supposedly free up some stuck rings also
Smart move .timing is perfect for me. Im about to store ours.
Thanks for the tip!Keep me posted with more old school tricks especially on lawn mowers.
Very good idea. ATF also works well if you have an engine that sat with water in it and locked up. Drank the old oil, and FILL up the crankcase and cylinder with ATF and diesel Let it set a month. Then slowly work it to loosen it.
You could fill it with piss and get the same or better results. You could also try nothing and get the same results.
I use my generator anytime i need ourdoor power. (ie; trim hedges, blow leaves, electric chain saw, etc). Generator is over 20 years old and starts on 1st or 2nd pull. 14 hp b&s. I do keep sta-bil in the fuel. I mounted it on a garden wagon so it is handy to move around.
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This man speaks the truth. It works and you should do it. You don't want to be replacing all the carb seals in your chainsaw every year.
Great video. Back in the day (I'm 70) we did similar to mowers using Marvel Mystery Oil. I grew up in northeast PA where winters are long . Now living in NC and this reminds me I need to do exactly that to my generator. Thanks
I used to use MMO to pickle the engines too.
Me too! I put that sh#t in everything!!....😉
Oh!
And it smells nice 😋
@@tomcampbell6384 Yeah, I think the wintergreen oil is the 'secret' ingredient. They used to say it would 'micro-polish' surfaces. It has very mildly acidic ph characteristics.
Hell yeah !!
My husband is driving highway trucks sinse 1990 ....and he puts 1/2 quart of atf trans.oil in his tanks every times he fuel .....with every truck that he owned.......and i recall that one of them........the engine had over 1,600,000 km.. ..no engine overhaul ....... and still pulling and working when he sold it........
Same here
dang ... I assume those are all naturally aspirated trucks with fuel injectors?
Why put atf in a diesel?
@@richardoakley8800 for lubrication of the high pressure fuel pump an injectors because modern, ultra low sulfur, diesel doesn’t lubricate the same as the old stuff. Probably not good for the exhaust filters, but if your diesel doesn’t have that stuff then the ATF is going to help keep things clean and slippery.
Jay birds… the explanation I’d gotten for putting atf in the fuel as well when the injectors started acting up.
I used ATF in my MGCGT 4 speed manual o/d gearbox when I experienced slight slippage ,drained the 20/50 oil,filled with ATF the o/d worked perfectly left it in . It was said the Volvo P 1800 running the same box recommended ATF.not sure if that was true,but it worked in my C. Cheers Mal.
I hve stored an engine by running the fuel out, next yr, I found the float pitted with a hole from the brass contacting the metal bowl...prob due to dissimilar metals contact corrosion..... So good tip, thanks!
I am an old school auto mechanic and I use ATF as lube in air motors and I put it in my motor oil a couple days prior to an oil change. It cleans, Lubricates and keeps the seals supple.
Man, I wish I had known this old-school method years ago. I could have sae myself a lot of heartaches trying to keep carbs from getting so mucked up then ultimately wanting to smash the carb with a steel mallot. This was a GREAT video and so very informative. For that, I am now a NEW SUBSCRIBER!! Thanks again.
I second what Houndsman said!! Thank you so much, Lord of junk!!
Me too!
Me three!
Kerosene is better
@@danray9744 Good antifreeze in the winter too...back in the 40's
My next door neighbor who has been a mechanic for 60 years recommended putting some ATF in my frank case for my 1996 F150. He said the detergents in the ATF will keep the system Louis. I asked him what Louis meant he said Lubed up and In Shape
Thanks for the tip! Like the Nissan Pickup also. 👍
For small 2 cycle engines with a primer, usually pumping the primer sucks fuel from the tank, through the carb then the primer and back to the tank. Disconnect the line at the carb fuel inlet and use the primer to suck ATF into and through the carb. It will keep the carb clean and preserve the diaphragms for storage.
And being 2stroke fuel, it would only leave a layer of oil on the inside of the carburetor to stop corrosion.
I wonder if using straight 2-stroke oil in place of ATF would work as well? It would have the advantage that it's deigned to be burnt in an engine so you don't need to worry about it leaving any tars behind. Or maybe engine oil? Makers of engine oil have to assume it will get burnt eventually and (IIRC) most of what uses it up in normal service is the accumulation of products of combustion, which doesn't happen when the engine is in storage and isn't running.
That is a fantastic idea for diaphragms. I leave my tanks full and start and run them monthly for a while to keep the diaphragms coated. This will allow me to stop having to do this.
Most 2-stroke shops say it's best to use two stroke oil in the tank only and use the primer bulb and prime it. Then when you're ready to start it the next year just pour out the oil and pour new fuel in there works great.
2 stroke oil primed through the carb is the way to go for 2 strokes. That's what I've heard and that's what I'm about to do.@@benjaminshropshire2900
Great tip.
For all my small engines I choose the option of ethanol free "marine gas" at my local gas station.
Basically this is the old fashioned unleaded that dont have the addition of ethanol.
Ethanol has ruined several of my small engine carbs prior to making this swap.
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I’m outside of Houston, been through a few storms myself. First I’ve heard of this trick. I’ve become the small engine guy at my church. Will pass this on, I’ll end up doing it anyway. In exchange for dinner at a dive.
I have heard of people using ATF in cars and trucks in the fuel tank as well as the crankcase to keep everything clean and running smooth
Rural North Easterner here, from ice and snow country. I have had portable generators hooked up to my house for decades (I had a transfer switch installed years back) I buy a new one about every 10 years or so. I always run them at least once a month for about 15 minutes, and about 4 times a year I hook the house up and run the electricity as well. Exercise the magnates that way. They always start up for me. But if I was to leave it for a year, this sounds like a good plan.
I went through all our small engines this year and put a shutoff valve on every one of them. Was so sick of worrying about if the fuel would last or not, even with additives and such. Should have been made mandatory on all small engines for the sake of storage and the environment.
As old as I am, I've never heard this before. But it sure makes sense to me. Thanks for sharing this info! 👍👍 Sta-bil works good, but it's not the cure all for long term small engine storage. Today's gas is made so cheap because profits and corporate greed in America are top priority over quality of anything. Gas doesn't last long at all like it used to years ago. Another tip, DON'T USE GAS WITH ETHANOL IN IT FOR ANY SMALL ENGINE, even if you run it regularly, UNLESS IT SAYS YOU CAN.
you are 100% right on with this ! if you don't do this, the ethanol crap will eat the aluminum in the carb up.
This works great .. but I like to use 2-cycle oil in the same way .. usually cheaper and burns off easily .. and I always mix a little bit in the gas for every small engine I have .. keeps all seals and rings lubricated.
Great tip. I'll be checking out the rest of the channel.
Maybe not the best example of knife safety, LOL. Cut that tip before screwing onto container...
I keep a couple recycled syringes, with and without needle, in the garage for applying MMO to small bearings or measuring out 2-cycle oil; will probably use that or tiny funnel for the ATF.
Nothing like Good Old Southern Wisdom, Thumbs Up!
Great video. I empty the bowl on my Honda. Works well but I’ll add the atf. When I run it to run out the gas in the tank. I hook up some electrical device so my gas doesn’t get wasted. Just takes a little planning.