FORD says 2018 Mustang GT Engine Tick is NORMAL ( I CALL BS on TSB 7718 )
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The 2018 us a BEAST but it's not fair for Ford to say some will tick and some won't. Hard working people buy their dream cars and now it's a lottery if you get one that ticks or one that doesn't. Ford needs to wake up and issue a real recall.
Ford is trying to avoid a massive Recall!!!
very possible
03StangGT I do agree !
What about the cars presently built now knowing about the tick. if they are trying to avoid a recall I would assume by now they would have fixed it. I guess it’s cheaper to slap a new one and avoid the problem.
Yes and it's not fair.
03StangGT yeah they just recalled 1.2 million F150s
I'm a mechanical engineer and to answer your question about why some engines have the tick and others don't, every engine has a different tolerance stack up due to machining variances. This does't mean there is a problem, as the tolerances can still be within proper spec. However, these differences in the tolerance will cause different noises in each engine, especially in a high compression engine like the Coyote. Also this would explain why the tick is more common in a 2018-19 Coyote versus the 2011-17 because the new car has a higher compression ratio. Hope that helps.
this is the best probable cause I have heard. very good points
Block is made in Mexico and so is the Challenger blocks both have problems and both say nothing wrong . People quit buying this shit and that will get their attention !
The answer to your question is tolerance. All parts have tolerances. Nothing is built to a perfect spec. When you bolt parts together, you get a tolerance "stack up." You might get one part that cancels out the other or adds more tolerance to the other. Throw in temperature fluctuations in material expansion and you get mechanical things that make mechanical noises.
More time driving and less time standing around the wheel well taking videos with a cellphone would probably break in the parts so that they quit making noise.
I don't think the tick is normal but i'm not going to let it consume my life anymore. I'm sending it everyday and i'm loving my car.
I'll trade it in and upgrade in/at 4.5yr/59,500 miles. LOL
agreed, enjoy and send it!!!!!!!!!!!
That's already far too long to keep a car😅
Street707 - Mustang Vlogger, FPV Pilot & PC Gamer: maybe you could trade it in for the S650 when it comes out??
@@spacetraveler834 fasho!, I might need to get that new 429 by that time. Lol
I went Mopar shopping today 😐...I was exited at first...then indifferent...but those are my cards ♦️
The guys that don't have the tic or own one that does; have every right to discuss/ bash or whatever. I have an awesome NA mid 11 second 2012GT that I love. However, I loved the 18 when it came out and saw how strong they are out of the gate. I immediately wanted one but I held off to see how the direct port would be. I normally hold off and wait when changes are made to a car (why I have a 2012 automatic instead of 2011 MT82). I'm glad that I did here also because waiting to see how the direct port injection would be on the coyote, saved me from being a typewriter/ piston slap/ bbq tick victim. I honestly don't think Ford will address the problem or own up to it unless Camaro purchases start to slaughter Mustang purchases. Ford never owned up to the MT82 being a pos and still have it in our cars to this day. I don't see them being any different with the 18+ Coyote problem. If it is cheaper to keep things as is than to fix it , Ford will go that route.
So, I wanted to buy a new 18-19 mustang but wouldn't consider unloading my 2012 because of this issue and especially Ford's denial of the problem . I have every right to bitch because of it.
There is nothing normal about an engine tick. I had a very low level sounding tick in my HD motorcycle. The dealer was no help during the warranty period. At 60K Km and 2 years out of warranty the tick all of a sudden became so loud that it was ridiculous. Ended up costing me AU$6,000 to have the motor rebuilt. The problem was just ever the slightest play in one crankshaft causing piston slap. And by the way, after the engine rebuild, there was and many miles later, no more tick. Funny about that. My strong recommendation to those having engine tick is to 'formally' (ie. documented) report it to the Ford dealer during the warranty period so that if it gets worse and there is engine damage down the track, you can push for the repair to be claimed under warranty.
8500 miles of ticking here for me! Hopefully Ford is correct with their "it's normal" theory. Guess we will find out lol
Appreciate the shout out man!
just send it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When Ford says "it's normal" that just makes me feel unappreciated as a customer an on the other hand one thing comes to my mind, it may be normal, 💩 always smells bad and that is normal
I met a guy today in a parking lot with a pro charged 15 GT/CS and the first thing he asked me was did my 18 have the tick yet, I said no and he said well you will! Like damn bro nice to meet you too.
I think this is Ford's way of trying to silence the issue and make it harder for people to get there car fixed so they can save money just a thought
I traded my 18 Ecoboost for a leftover new 18 GT Base auto yesterday. I had held off for several months because of all this talk of tick and knock but decided I had to have it. I am hoping that I don"t get any engine noises but will deal with it if I do. Love your channel.
Congrats
Any tick now?
The only thing holding me back from buying a 18 or 19 is I’ve seen four people I know personally get screwed on this problem and no one can figure out the exact cause!
I’ve seen 2- E85 cars go
I’ve seen 2- whipple cars go
I don’t think I want one anymore because it would have to remain stock which isn’t my bag.
Still want one but damn I don’t trust them until they start sleeving the motors or fixing the issue for 2020.
I love Mustangs. Wait until they really address this issue. I still love my Mustang but Ford needs to issue a recall.
Sean Michael I’m in the same boat as you man.
K4ISER 5.0 THEY REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THEN SAYING NORMAL. 🙂
For me, it's the plastic oil pan and drain plug that keeps me from buying one.
Zander - Key point that I’m glad you hit was the inconsistency between cars, and even the inconsistency from time to time on the same car. @coyotecarguy summed up wisely IMO by attributing it to a byproduct of mass production. But if it wasn’t for mass production we would not be able to buy a car with high performance at this price point. Catch 22, it is what it is so we move forward and concentrate on having fun.
Any tick coming from an engine and not the injectors should be considered abnormal. Affected owners should all start the buyback process or lemon law their cars. Betcha ford would come up with a fix real quick
Caleb Caton exactly what I did my car is almost bought back after 2 big failures 1 was the tick that went knocking an the 10r80 clutches burned out with other issues computer an torque converter
My buyback was denied. I took it in the day they issued the TSB. I made the appointment in November. They made me wait two months. I think it's suspicious that they scheduled my appointment for the exact day the TSB went out.
K4ISER 5.0 many things around this tsb is odd my dealership still says they haven’t gotten the tsb. I don’t know what to believe.
This isn't completely true. The direct injection pump located on the passenger side top of the engine makes a ticking noise as well, and its completely normal.
My 2018 started ticking around 10k miles and then the tick turned into a knock around 20k miles. Ford put a new motor in it.
My 2012 ticked for over 100k modded miles with zero issues.
Richard Head ya direct port injection pump makes the same noise all the time. Doesn’t get worse when revved up of coming down from revs.
1. After the first oil change
And
2. Up to 1700 rpm
Two good clues there.
Anybody?
The Mystery Continues......
Good video man!!! also not sure if the screen shot of the TSB is from your PC but I can fix that "windows is not genuine message" for you too... lol
This channel is the reason I said eff it and put my order in for my 19 GT Premium PP2. Puttin a blower on it too. Keep up the awesome work bro. Love the channel and content.
Thanks so much. Don’t worry about the issues. Love the car and send it
Zander13 is there a whipple or Roush setup with the tick that you know of??? I’ve heard it may be intake related... I have a 2018 whipple and no tick, so far!
Zander ; Engine tick , I haven't noticed any kind of noise yet in my BULLITT . Then again I've only gotten 2500 miles so far. I wanted to make it out to Clarksville Cars and Coffee but I wasn't feeling well today and I thought it best that I stay home . Spring will be here soon enough and I'll be going all over . Thanks again for your content . BULLITT 40
BULLITT 40: I am glad to hear that everything is ok so far. Please keep us updated after your first oil change. That’s when a lot of people started hearing this weird engine noise.
To get rid of the tic the two fixes are as follows. 1 install louder pipes. 2 upgrade your audio system and turn it up. Or just do both and roll out. 😎
Erik Ressdorf DONE!! Ha ha. Love it!!
theres a video on youtube where engines with tick should use LM Ceratec and it helps to reduce the tick.
From a mechanic stand point, I think it could be a few things.
1. The lash adjusters are bad. This happens in the 4.6, 5 4, and 6.8 after a while. I've had new ones tick and 100,000 mile ones not. It's a mixed bag on the lash adjusters. Oil effects this because oil pressure keeps it "pumped up" to keep the cam follower/rocker against the cam and on the valve stem tip.
2. The intake runner control valve is faulty. It can rattle or flop bc of bad components. The electric motor that operates the flaps can shutter causing a tick. But, an oil change wouldn't effect this.
3. Piston slap is unlikely but a possibility. Oil can effect this but very rarely.
4. The oil that is changed into the engine is different from the oil that was in the engine when it is new. I seen people put additives in the oil and the tick go away or serverly lessen. So it seems to me that the additive package in the oil is different for the "break-in" oil compared to replacement oil.
These are my own theories and opinions on the infamous typewriter tick.
If you have a new 5.0 with the tick, I'd love to find out what it is. I have a few tests I can do to find out where the noise is precisely coming from and possibly come up with a viable solution to the problem.
Very good points here
Thanks.
Thanks for not beating a dead horse on this issue. To me the tick and piston slap are different issues. TSB 7718 is to prevent a financial/time consuming burden on the dealerships. Now if you have an obvious slap and a dealership tries to hide behind TSB 7718, shame on them.
I don’t think it’s wrong for people who spend 40,000 plus on a Mustang to expect it to not have strange noises come from the bottom end. Come on Ford! Mustang people are the most loyal to Ford, be loyal to them!
Amen. That's why we have to keep making noise.
As a whole, there is no consistency across the board...some cars tick some do not...that being said, the cars that do tick, have owners that are rightfully concerned, and are looking for accurate information to navigate their options appropriately...the cars that do not tick, have owners that are not as concerned, and are looking to get past the topic. Unfortunately, the cars have been known to turn on their owners...the cars that tick, will always tick, the cars that don’t, may at some point...at this point, those owners may be concerned with educating themselves about their options, and collateral damage. IDK if you know my story, but I jumped ship ASAP because it was the right thing for me to do, I would have lost THOUSANDS! I don’t hate on anyone who wants to “send it” it’s their car, their situation...good job Alex!
Awesome video. Thank you for coming to the Clarksville Cars n' Coffee today and for the shoutout. For anyone wondering about it, it's the third Saturday of every month from 9am to noon at the Governors Square Mall. You can check out the Clarksville Gearhead Car Club on Facebook and Instagram. Hope to keep having these events for sure. 👍
I will bring the crowd. very good event. well done
It's abnormally normal for the Coyote's. Let's all get over it and move on.
agreed
19 Coyote 5oh IT’S THE NEW NORMAL 18-19 s. Yay!!! Lol.
@@mikejautosandstuff3349 Been around since 2011....
19 Coyote 5oh yeah I know. 🤗
@@mikejautosandstuff3349 Dont give up on a 19 pee pee 1 car!!! I would LOVE to see you making videos on a 10r80 19!!!
i run all engines with 15w40 and they all run fine , regardless if turboed or Diesels.....all fine with this good old mineralic oil ! Especially engines with a lot of mechanics insight like this Ford with 32/4sperate adjustable cams will like it .
Last Friday I tried something new with my 2018 GT.
I got off RUclips and took it out for a drive.
Nothing ticked, knocked, or exploded.
It was actually fun, and I remembered why I bought it.
exactly. love the car and just drive it
I guess I have to make a video about the tick as mine started having it before its first oil change. It is sort of like yours once every so often. Twice or so times a week. The scary part was one time when I parked the car home after the drive from work and the tick was coming through my exhaust. I turned it off and on and it was not there.....
Thanks for bringing thid up! As you may or may not know I have the tick and 2k slap. Car has been in and out of shops with the first engine replaced due to scoring.
This ssm comes out and now they are saying that the 2k slap and typewriter tick are the same thing and as the ssm states that the tick is normal.... they will not do anything more. This will and can be problematic for folks bringing their cars in with engine related issues as dealers and Ford will refer to this SSM-message.
I am waiting for the car to come back so I can send it hahaha
Keep it up buddy
Are F150 truck owners with 5.0's under the hood having the same engine sounds a well? I could understand it easier if all versions and engines sounded the same. It is after all not a push rod engine. And extra valvetrain noise would be easier to understand as normal. But with some doing it and others not or to a less extent seems to me at least as more of a QC issue or even oil pressure issues...who knows...if I owned one and paid all that money I can easily understand how that would piss off owners. Thanks for the content..good stuff. A good friend owns a Mach model manual shift in black same as the car in this video. I let him run my high performance bassboat a couple times and Ive driven his Mach 1 as well...cool car that gets for its age and no boost of any kind...
My 2018 also has the tick. Ford replaced the first motor and my second motor also has the tick but sounds worse or maybe it's just me.
David Johnson do a buyback I did same issue an my 10r80 failed 500 miles after they replaced my motor.
@@underfedcoyote5.022
If you don't mind me asking, what type of failure did your 10R80 have? I had the impression that they were bulletproof.
@@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew Probably one way clutch failure or valve body failure. It's pretty well documented at this point. His 10r80 clutches probably burned up due to a valve body failure, or his one way clutch exploded. Avoid the 2018/2019 year model Mustang GT if you don't have this car already.
@@refusetolosethis779
I have a GT350 and as far as I know the Voodoo isn't experiencing the same tick issue despite having plasma cylinder walls.
On the other hand, I also own a 2019 F-150 with a 5.0 so I want to know what to listen for. I don't think I have the tick....yet.
The F150 will eventually be sleeved and boosted after the warranty expires but I won't hesitate to disassemble it myself and void the warranty if it starts ticking.
stylac I will have a few videos coming back to my channel soon as my buyback is completed it’s happening this week. Noting especially automatic trans are bullet proof. The power glide is the strongest auto made. 10 speeds have weak points clutches are 1 of them. But keep your stuff stock ford is very aware of the issues an they will fox or replace your issues under warranty. I can say my car had failures but it was bone stock an ford did replace an rebuilt all the main drive train parts of my car without any hassle.
I just bought my 2019 5.0 couldn’t be more pleased. I am a bit concerned but I’m not going to let it take over my love for my mustang. Keep up the great videos bro! Huge fan out here in Dallas, TX!! #Stanglife
Thanks. Enjoy your car and don’t worry
As I've commented on many RUclips channel's the Australia delivered s550 coyote motors Ford Australia uses 10/40 and we have zero tick issue or piston scoring problems.
I sell these things at a very high volume dealership in New York and can say we have not had any issues, even with all this cold weather. That being said, Ford did do recalls and replaced 5.0 with a tick, thoses engines were sent back and ripped apart by Ford. If there was a issue, Ford would have done something by now, they know better than any RUclips by far. but also, there is the consumer protection agency, Big borther(government agency) will help IF there ever was a problem. Just drive the cars and enjoy them. Just my thoughts👍
agreed
Bought my 2019 GT in November. Changed the oil at 1,500 miles. I’m at 4,000 miles with no tick so far. I don’t believe it is normal but I know they will cover the engine under warranty if it fails.
Saved me from boredom..... Much thanks!!
very welcome
Either something is out of spec or something is not tightened to the correct torque specification, simple as that.
jkroner659: I completely agree with you... I think the tolerances need to be tightened up a lot. This is all about sloppy manufacturing, plain and simple.
Also, like Zander hinted at or said in the video...if they know it's not a problem, why the fuck not say exactly what it is from an engineering standpoint that is causing this in some cars? The type of person who brings their car in to the dealer with this issue is going to want to know what exactly is causing this noise, your average driver may not even recognize it as something abnormal. A TSB without a technical explanation of the cause of the noise other than to say "it's all good fellas" sounds like a CYA TSB, not an explanation.
yep, agreed
Plenty of us with 15-17 have had the driveshaft vibe problem and all we got was an SSM eventually and the dealer has to do a boatload of testing and not everyone gets satisfaction. I got luck, i bought the car used and noticed the vibe while on roadtrip and took to my ford dealer and they put in a DS based on my experience. Luckily problem solved for me,not everyone is so lucky.
Hi Zander, I have 2018 Mustang with the tick upon start. The tick go's away after the car warm up. The tick start at 250 mile. I have 2000 mile now the tick is still there. I am hoping it does not get worse after the first oil change.
its fine. just enjoy the car and send it. no engines are blowing up from a small tick
Engine tick has been a problem for years it's not only on 18,19 mustangs
My 18 has 3000 miles on it and it has the tick at cold start. Once it's at running temp it's gone, seriously wish I would have waited for the 2020 to come out but who's to say it will be any different.
Great video 👍🏽👍🏽 my buddy has a 2018 GT and it’s totally STOCK. He was driving at 75mph and all of a sudden the Tick turned into 2 broken Valves and 3 broken valve springs. I sure wouldn’t buy a Tick or a flea !!!!!!!
Normal because it is very common with various things reducing it for some people and no official diagnosis for a 100% solution for everyone. Some people have the tick for a long time and no issues.
I recently had just bought a 2018 mustang gt and it would have a rattling noice every time I’d rev the car up to 2k rpm but turned out the previous owner had put some messed up tunes on the car so my friend and I clear the tunes and set the car back to stock and the rattling noise disappeared 🤷🏽♂️ no more lol pretty crazy but I’m glad for me was a tune issue
Us Mitsubishi 3000GT guys had lifter tick on the 1st gen cars because of the bore size of the lifters. Don't remember which generation 3000gt engine it was wether 2nd or 3rd the lifter bore size got larger from maybe 1mm to 3-4mm. This greatly help reduce the noise of the lifter tick. However on cold starts the ticks are there, oil needs to be warmed up. Certain oil weights affect the sound of the lifters as well. To really know if there is something truly going on, Ford should recommend to their customers perform a UOA (used oil analysis) report. I use blackstone-labs.com. the UOA report will compare your engine, provided you state the information. This way blackstone-labs.com will produce the proper universal averages for that particular car using that specific engine. Hope this helps some. The best UOA report I ever had for my mazda5 was using Ford motorcraft oil, shocking! Mobil1 does a decent job too. I did not try amsoil or royal purple bcuz it is too rich for me, lol. I tried many of the generic brands and they did ok. Again, hope thus helps, happy motoring!
I have ALWAYS wanted a 3000 gt
I am thinking about buying a new 2020 Mustang GT (or maybe 2021 model year) but I am terrified about this dreaded engine tick. The TSB put out by Ford is complete nonsense. That's like saying I am going to buy a suit but I am told by the designer that many of their suits come with stitching that comes apart and that is just a normal characteristic of the fabric. Are you kidding me? That is a load of BS!!! My response to Ford is, since they are one of the best engine builders in the world, why can't they make a 5.0 Litre engine WITHOUT the tick? There is OBVIOUSLY a design flaw in that engine or else there would be no ticking. You don't have to be a mechanical engineer to know that the sound is 100% NOT normal. Ford puts out this TSB (or let's call it an excuse) to cover themselves legally. Plain and simple. If I were running Ford I would solve this problem immediately by either:
1) Correcting the design flaw to eliminate the ticking in any new models produced; or
2) Come out with a new engine (other than the 5.0 Litre) that is PROPERLY designed that runs quietly and smoothly without any unwanted noises such as this tick.
Until I get some answers from Ford that can alleviate my concerns, I will hold off on this purchase.
What Ford needs to do is either have their engineers or contract an outside engineering company like Roush to do a root cause analysis on the cause of the tick. It may well be totally innocuous and have no effect on the longevity or performance of the engine. It would be reassuring to know the facts.
Soooo glad im no longer in the "typewriter tick club" LMAO
now you are in that voodoo club lol
Ford handled the 6.0 Diesel engine issues very poorly. They were late with production and had a lot of vehicle back orders. They built the emergency vehicles like ambulance chassis cabs first. They were blowing engines right away. Ford probably views the Coyote tick as no big deal, after the 6.0 disaster?
Yeah. They trying to avoid a huge recall. The messed up in the sleeves bad. Piston slap is not normal. At all.
Guys what is the root cause of this crap? I used to own a 2014 Mustang V6 that I bought brand new back in the day and after my first oil change the ticks started and it really bothered me. I had went to my Ford dealership and they told me it was normal.
9 times out of 10 if there is a serious engine issue the noise is obvious. it'll be consistent and alarming. these engines are super noisy. i run 5w30 and send it. i'm also doing zero engine mods, though, so i don't worry about drivetrain issues at all as far as warranty is concerned. the first motor in my cobra had piston slap and that was OBVIOUSLY an issue but it went away after a little bit of heat got in the motor. i've never heard a noise like that come from this engine. 2500 miles so far and she's a bat out of hell.
I think its lateral movement on big end of rod causing the tick. The scoring is a whole other issue. Just my theory since I can replicate the noise on a pro rod crank set up in my garage. Hopefully one day the mystery can be solved.
you may very very right!!!
One of my typewriter tick theories is that the steel crank doesn't lengthen under thermal expansion as much as the aluminum block. The main problem with this theory is that the walls aren't scoring on the front to aft sides. They're scoring in the other direction.
I can't wait until That1320Chick gets her sleeved block back from the machine shop so we can see if that fixed her problem. That will at least help to narrow it down.
I completely agree with this! Mine had a short block put in at just over 1400 miles. The noise was obviously rod knock. They tore it down and found ABNORMAL bearing wear and cylinder scoring in cylinder 3. My theory stays the same.
There is a terrible run of crankshafts out there that have bad machining. The rod bearings are allowed to walk on the shaft and slap the journal. The walking is so much it puts bind on the wrist pin and ends in cylinder wall damage.
Luckily so far my new rotational assembly is tight. Any problems from here, especially since I waited two dam months for them to fix it.... Ford will be buying it back. In the end I love the car but I didn’t buy a rebuilt new car. I bought a NEW car. So shall ford buy a new rebuilt car .. 4400 total miles now.
I just bought my 2019 GT it started ticking at 600 miles. I have 1100 miles on it now. I've had it for 10 days. Seriously pissed. Taking it to the dealer 4/8/19.
I thought I had heard somewhere what the cause was and was expecting more of an explanation myself from Ford, kind of felt like they just threw that out there to get ppl to shut up. That's how I took it anyway 🤷♂️
my 16 don't tick..gen2 ftw
Glad the gen 2 does not have this issue. Love my 17 ;)
People who don't yet have a Mustang Gen3 Coyote with this tick but are thinking about buying one have every right to talk about it and be concerned about it as much as those who currently own one and do have the 'tick'. Just sayin'. Now talking smack about it is something else altogether. It's 2019. In 2024 when people are buying used 2019 Mustangs; they will want to know about and understand what this tick issue was all about. They will want to know if this year is one to avoid or if this issue really was no big deal. I personally hope it ends up being a nothing burger.
Bob, valid point.
IF it was normal they would all have the tick... Ford is desperately trying to CYA. But no Corsa headers are not the best by a long shot. pretty sure Kooks has that title and you dont have to mod them for E85.
well thats true. kooks did it right in that regard.
@@Zander13Productions Be nice if Corsa and some of the other manufacturers would relocate the bungs, being even the factory header bungs are in a position that does well for E85. Esp since moving them does not affect normal pump gas cars.Maybe you should suggest that to them being they are a sponsor of yours.
Its the same thing on the Powerstroke. It IS normal. Some are experiencing knock, which is not the famous bbq tick people are hearing. Again, look how long the Powerstroke has been around and how reliable they are. They are boosted from the factory. Dont like a noisy motor, stay away from the big 3. Challenger, Camaro and Mustang ALL tick. The Mustang has had this bbq tick since 2011 in the 5.0.
I took delivery of my 2019 Mustang GT a little over 3 weeks ago. It currently has 540 miles on it and no tick. Does it typically happen after the first oil change or at a certain mileage? I am keeping it under 6k rpms until the 1k mile break in not sure if that will matter. Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
Chris Carguy - congrats on your new GT! I also have a 2019 and broke it in like you are. (I have a video about it.) No tick then and no tick now!
I babied mine for first 500, then pushed the car a bit until 1k, then I let it loose and changed to pennzoil 5w30 full synthetic at 4k miles. no tick
Ordered my 2019 GT sports pack1 in August of 2018. It was built first week of October 2018 and I have BOTH an engine tick and rear diff slipping:( it’s been to the dealer 3 times and verified both issues and nothing has been done to repair either. Like the rig but will NOT buy another unless something is done to fix both these issues. I’ve let everyone at my work know and they are watching to see what happens and ask me every day about it... lol To much money for lack of REAL warranty! Sorry ford you can do better!
Love you’re Chanel .... keep up the goods!!
thanks for the love. I am sorry to hear about your issues. your dealership needs to light a fire on the repairs and fix it.
I just did my first oil change. Only had 360 miles (600km). Put in 5w50 amsoil. Reason for the change is because I have a vortech v3 supercharger installed and was going for final dyno tuning. In the last 2 days I have drove 200 miles (including 8 pulls on the dyno), and beat on it (finally, but long before official break in was done). Put down 723whp, 559wtq on 94. Zero ticks, zero noise, except the squeals of excitement from me under wot lol. I personally think it's the oil people are using. The recommended 5w20 may be too thin. Just a theory on the oil, and I have said that before. Anyways, 5w50 amsoil, and now boosted and no ticks. Luck of the draw or it's the oil choice people make/Ford recommends.
HUGE NUMBERS
Hi Zander13. I ordered a new mustang gt premium, pp1, and will pick it up mid March. I know there is a break in procedure for the first 1,000 miles of a new car. Do you think that not following this break in procedure may lead to the tick? Also, if this does lead to the tick, why would it not happen until after the first oil change?
I babies mine for first 500 miles then started driving aggressively after 500 but no redlining then after 1k miles I let it loose.
@@Zander13Productions Thank you Zander13. I appreciate your feedback, and will probably follow your lead.
I babied mine for 1000 miles, kept it mostly under 6000 rpm and changed oil at 1K miles. By the book. All stock. No tick, fwiw.
There is a message for the 6.7 diesels for the same type of a noise after the 1st oil change and outside of emissions components that is a really reliable engine. My 18 gt makes some noise, but it runs fine and I'm not worried about it.
I had the tick and 2k rattle and I say SEND IT.........back to Ford under a lemon law buyback and never look back. I can't wait to get my 2019 Charger 392 Daytona.
2018 GT PP1. LOUD, constant ticking in my engine since first oil change at 2k. Ran like that till next oil change at 6.9k miles, read about throwing some ceratec (half bottle) which I did right in the parking lot of the dealer and now I'm 1k into non ticking, daily driving and full sending
@zander13 thought you made mention in a video some time back that yours does tick on cold start etc. Like so many others..am I mistaken?
Sikkboy666, you must have read my mind!!
I have only heard mine tick slightly like 6 times in 6 months.
I bought a brand new 18 stang it currently has 3k miles and there’s a clicking noise in my bottom end. This is why I’m a little scared to modify my engine for the fact if it gets worse they are going to blame the modifications I’ve done to it.
I would not be too worried. I have seen heavy ticking 18s run low 10's boosted with no issues.
Great video brother, thanks for throwing the Mach in there...
Absolutely
I have a 17 with bulletin noise. It always happens after an oil change. It is not a top end noise. Goes away after 1500 miles or so. I first noticed it after I changed my own oil for the first time. I thought oh crap I just killed my motor. I think it air in the oil filter working it's way out.
I cant stand all the hate on the mustang brand! They all have there problem areas look at the 90k z06 and trying to road course them and they over heat.. if you buy and love the brand and you decide to modify and lose warranty that is a choice. You have a 60k drivetrain warranty if you dont do anything to the car
exactly. the zo6 had massive issues but ppl still loved them.
I told David van voris this. On April 20th, there’s a cars and coffee at Texas motor speedway. The trick is, you can drive your car on the track. Depending on the weather.
wish I was not so far away
"Normal" for a Coyote engine but not normal for a properly running engine. They probably are using crap bearings. This seems to be the problem in most cases people have found. Either theres an oiling issue or a bearing issue.
Thanks for the update Z ! Oh yea our 2019 just got pushed back again it's going to be 4 months for a custom order :0(
Omg delayed again?
I really don’t care if mine ticks or not. I’m keeping the car until the wheels fall off so the engine will have to be rebuilt eventually.
Love it and send it
Zander13 It’s all you can do. No point wasting your life worrying and complaining. Use it how it was made to be and fix it when it breaks.
My 2018 has been flawless.
I race my 18 a lot and win a lot of races.
I've beaten camaros ss with blowers and modded ss
I've beaten a lot of ls2 and ls3 corvettes and taken my 18 over 160 mph
I haven't done my first oil change yet I have 2300 miles, hard miles and no issues. Thank God
If the tick comes on my 18 I'll be the first to bitch whine and complain.
Good stuff on your channel bro
Race on.
Inspector Zander 👮 .. Get to the bottom of this! Thanks for not ignoring this very important issue.
Great video as always. I do want to call a few things out. First the SMS you are referring to is kind of BS. The reason I am saying that is I have a 17 GT premium (no issues or tick) and the manual that came with my car does reference the typewriter tick. But attributes it to the grade of gas you put in it. My manual says for normal drive and enjoyment is to use 87 octane. Heavy use to use Mid 89-92 grade octane. Here is where it gets interesting. Use of 93 octane could cause engine tick on idle. If any damage is done as a result of using improper fuel, Ford will not fix or warranty the engine. I wonder what the manual for the 18-19 GT says since the engine now has Direct port injection. Just my take on it. Now people that are having the piston slap, that is totally different and Ford should be looking into the cause and fixing for customers. Now that this bulliten was released it's going to make people who have a genuine issue much harder to get Ford to fix.
Interesting points. the manual should allow for 93. the computer should be smart enough to just add timing and learn the fuel.
It could be how hard the car is beat on early. Some parts in a engine need a little time before it gets hammered. Most say burn the tires leaving the dealership. I think it's a bad idea.
true. I babied mine for first 500, then got a lot more aggressive but never really pushed it until 1k. and I changed the oil at 4k for first time to pennzoil 5w30 synthetic. I have no tick
My 2017 GT is quiet as a mouse standing at the engine bay and listening under the fenders. Until you walk to the rear.... then the Solo Exhaust no cats Corsa long tubes will wake the dead!!
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I wouldn't pay over $30K for a possible problem car or anything else. Solution: buy a used 18-19 with a loud tick for a diminished value price and have a built sleeved short block installed. You wouldn't have a factory warranty on a stock car any way after a tune but now you have a much better engine that can take 1,000+ HP. Heck punch it out to a 5.2 or bigger.
I had a Mach 1, smoked chevys all day in it too!
So exactly what IS the typewriter tick?
Ford can put out all the messages they want. People are still going to be very leery of buying the car if they don't know WHAT IT IS. I wouldn't doubt if this is why the sales slumped in the last quarter of 2018.
Once again, awesome video and music!!
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My 2018 GT A10 used to have an occasional cold start tick that went away completely when the car was warm. I haven't heard it since I changed to full synthetic oil. Not going to worry about it. The car runs perfect so I'm just gonna take Ford's word and send it.
same here
My 2018 GT makes a lot of ticks, clicks,taps, clatters and rattles.An engine with 32 valves, 16 fuel injectors, cam phasers, a cam driven high pressure fuel pump, IMRC and chain driven overhead cams is gonna make some noise. My engine does make some mechanical noises but it runs great. consistent 12.20's at118. BaseA10, no drag mode. Drive and enjoy.If it breaks,Ford will fix it.
ford is adding additive to quiet these engines down but its piston slap and a bad one too
2019 Mustang GT premium No Tick No problems Best car I’ve ever owned!! 😎🏁
Racing Fox I’m right there with ya, 19 here with a hellion turbo kit and no tick. It’s the most fun mustang I’ve owned and I’ve had five of them. I think it’s more of an issue with the early build 18’s and not as big of an issue on the 19’s
Mike T I completely agree, And I have 6,200 miles on mine, Did and full synthetic oil change for good measure, No tick No problems runs like a beast!, I’m so with you on that! This is a fun car to play around with!, Here’s a good one.....My dealership knows I’m nuts about this car so now there after me to buy a GT350, what to do what to do LoL 😂
Racing Fox why not have both!? Lol I’m looking to add a third car or another toy. I’m thinking either a terminator cobra or going the complete opposite route and getting a Polaris rzr...we gotta have our toys bro! Lol
Mike T hahahahahaha I’m with you there! My issue is I’m Canadian, And Mustangs are insanely expensive! Up here, Example: My Mustang GT premium and Black out was 56,075.00 + taxes brings it up to 68,172.00, and Mustang 350 are 76, to 78,000.00 and the Mustang 350R sells for 95,000.00, Even the Raptors sell for 91,000.00 follow this link www.autotrader.ca/cars/keyword/shelby%20gt350/ Your jaw is going to hit the floor! Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Racing Fox holy hell you weren’t lying! I got my premium 401a package Gt for 41k. Those prices are crazy. Regardless though, the GT 350 is an awesome package but I would stick with what you have. Throw a blower or a turbo on that car and you will have the time your life, trust me on that one!
I would bet money this mysterious tick won’t be an issue for the 2020 builds, why because Ford knows they have an issue with the 18’s but they are gambling nobody sues them past taking a payout or a buy back because they know their consumers are the average working Joe that can’t afford a lengthy court battle. The fact that you can walk into a dealership take a test drive listen to the motor etc.. spend 40,000 then when you do routine maintenance on the car by changing the oil you get stuck with a noise that wasn’t there the day you purchased it. That to me is false advertisement by Ford and maybe the dealership. Just sad the consumer doesn’t have a way to battle this issue.
Thanks for taking about the "Tick". It's amazing the Coyote Mustang owners I know don't have the"Tick" including myself. I believe you hit the target about most complaining likely don't even own a Mustang. Many just wanted to hate on the Mustang. The Direct Inject engine can be and are often noisy. I'm tired of hearing the same story over and over again. Drive it, enjoy it.
agreed just love it and drive it
Doing my first oil change at 3000 miles, currently have 2500 on my 19. Not going to dealership for it and will use royal Purple or amsoil. If it ticks, not gonna worry about it. Ceratec will go in if it does and until Ford gets on board to reveal WTF it is. Love my car and don't really give a fuck anymore about the tick thing. Its been over discussed to the point where people are ditching Mustangs and buying something else. My .02
Y'all should have bought 03 04 cobras. The noises from rattles and interior creeks would not let you hear any ticks lol
Mustang6g has a ton of info about this. One thread is very interesting. A member installed another tensioner that eliminates the stretchy belt and he reports that his tic and rattle is almost completely gone. Yall check it out:
www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/uh-guys.113536/
Everyone has to check out this 4 second video clip of a torn down coyote engine. In the description it says there is rod side play double the spec. Measurements are also mentioned. Here’s the video
ruclips.net/video/SwYxgBh2xe0/видео.html
Mine has the typewriter tick and I'm going to keep smashing the gas pedal, but it is still under warranty. So, I am not going to worry about it.
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I had the tick on my 2018 but it didn't bother me much. Mine wasn't that loud though.
I own a 18 gt.i have multiple problems loud rattling bad fuel pump vacuum leaks and the car only has 1900 miles. What makes you say its normal. 1000s of people were getting engine changes because of the tick before the tsb. It's not normal. New engine should not sound like that. Fuck ford. People are tired of shity quality fords.No wonder American car manufacturers keep asking for money from government.
my 18 started the tick before the first oil change still ticks at 10k miles I said oh well just a noise making power off road lts and Cold air more mods to come if it blows then I will argue with Ford that they have to prove the tune blew it if your not tuned and stock drive the shit out of it that's why we have warranty just saying drive it like you stole it.
My 2018 has no noise at all.
My 2011 TT with a Ford racing aluminator making 1000 whp+ ticks like a sumbitch.
Got nothing to talk about ...so now you want to talk about something that you said you wouldn’t carry on about a tick that some have and some don’t....even though you don’t have that problem ...smells of hypocrisy
I was asked to talk about it. So I did