The Real Reason I Don't Like Milwaukee Tools
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“Milwaukee fan boys are the worst” ...I guess you’ve never seen a snap-on fan boy!
@@jasong9502 LOL!!!
I can't stress this enough. Build a slide jig for the drill. Bosworth tools sells a log vice with a slider. But you can build the slide and use your log clamp you already have. It makes hitting the log at a perpendicular angle much easier.
Maybe Milwaukee tool quality went down for the same reason your videos were alright in the beginning now they suck... you talk about craftsmanship like a professional but you probably only watch people do it before you never really put in the work... from what I heard from you sounds like you worked for a contractor and only repeated what your boss told you to tell the subcontractors
Black and decker owns Milwaukee, maybe that's why they lowered the quality?
“Milwaukee fan boys are the worst” ...I guess you’ve never seen a snap-on fan boy!
Good point,
Hey man Fap-Off makes some great tools...and that warranty tho...worth every penny bros
Our snap on salesman said he wouldn't come out here for us nightshift and that if we wanted anything from him we would have to come in early to see him. I couldn't tell you what the guy looks like if that tells you anything. 🤣
Cough Cody is a snap on fan boy lol, he likes buying quality built stuff buy once cry once.
@@Graveltrucking This is true, but I bet he has not bought a NEW piece of snap-on for a long time.
I use Milwaukee tools everyday. I've gotten them so overheated that leather gloves are needed to keep using them. Never had a battery fail, or a tool. Been used in the rain, snow, ice, and near 0 degrees f.
Milwaukee tools are the best no body will change my Mind
My co workers borrow my m18 when their rigid and makitas won't drill bigger than a 3/4" hole
This is probably sponsored by dewalt
@@frank_texas7400 that wouldn’t surprise me.
@DougiE rain is what took my last impact out. Lasted 5 or 6 years so I had no issue buying a whole new brushless kit, starting my decent into the giant red hole that is packout
In the 1st Milwaukee Pipeline episode, Milwaukee even admitted their failure to produce and innovate quality tools for a time. Direct quote: "We eventually lost our way." But I do believe that has changed now. I see them as being the #1 power tool brand and the #1 innovator for power tools. They've just been killing it lately. I love my Milwaukee FUEL tools. They just keep getting better and I don't think any other brand has the amount of offerings that Milwaukee has. Not knocking the other guys or saying that they don't offer quality tools. But I will continue using Milwaukee.
I do repairs on them. The electronics are completely unreliable.
Makita is better, not to mention 40v line
@@riba2233 Milwaukee gets the job done for me and I find that Milwaukee's batteries last longer in cold weather. Plus I really like Milwaukee's 12V line. At this point I'm sticking with Milwaukee. Though I don't appreciate all their nickle and diming they're doing these days, especially with their packouts.
@@danielescobar7618 I've only ever had 1 problem with their electronics. I pulled out my barely used 6 1/2 inch Fuel circular saw one day and it just didn't work anymore. Got it fixed under warranty. Not much else to complain about as of yet.
@@danielescobar7618 interesting. My Milwaukee tools are the most reliable and trusted things I have in my kit. Been through the trenches with them and they work as good as day 1. Same for about 9/10 people in the company I work for. We work on cell towers so constantly working on heavy steelwork etc. Haven’t had a tool break on me nor my boss who’s got the same Milwaukee tools from about 12 years ago.
The high-torque impact m18 is a beast and a proper work horse
I’m really digging that new lighting with that shallow depth of field.
It’s a sweet look but what you’re seeing is the lighting of the footage and the lighting of the photo he’s using with a green screen clashing.
I've never used a green screen,
@@wranglerstar my bad, appears my phones display is not as sharp as I though. Still looks great.
@@shanechepren8119 tons of youtubers produce a background to have a repeatable and consistent background. It makes sense for continuity especially when the setting is full of items that may be regularly used.
@@wranglerstar Looks good, (BUT...) but your lights are too low, we see the reflection in your glasses. Angle of incidence equals angle of reflection, you know.
I've seen the insides of Milwaukee tools, and for the money, it's not actually that bad. Snap on now, they have harbor freight tools internals, and charge $500+ for a 12v 3/8 impact drill where as Milwaukee sells a higher quality internal drill for $300 and it comes with a nice case and 2 battery's.
i had to learn the hard way how garbage snapons power tools are. impacts, drills, all of it
I’ve seen Milwaukee tools go through some serious beatings in the contractor business and they ran fantastic.
Makita can survive even more.
@@axelsprangare2579 no.
@@dacenmclean7901 Have you watched the torture tests. You can’t beat makitas XPT technology.
I have an Bosch GBH SDS Max that demolished like a hole street of houses. No drywall but lime sand stone, concrete and thousends of tiles and it is only second to the Hilti AVR 2000 in my collection. At the other hand this GBH 8-45 that gets almost to 10 years saw at 3 Milwaukee and 2 Dewalt come and go..
Milwaukee makes good impact wrenches, great torque to size ratio but most of there tool are below average. The only thing they are way ahead to anybody else is online adverticment
@@Zozo806 Agree 100% 😆.
Been in the construction industry my whole life and they all going to break or wear out over time
“I prefer *this* brand” said the man who’s tools sit on the shelf 362 days a year.
@@WilliamWonka this guy said the Milwaukee tape measure was bad because it has a magnetic end, what a goober
There are thives and panzies
Gary, do you stick to one ecosystem? For batteries and chargers?
@@thenorthwestpassage2880 I love Milwaukee but there tapes do suck. The Klein tape is my favorite
After 4 years my 5" Milwaukee angle grinder is still my favorite power tool
I love my Milwaukee tools. As a homeowner and hobbyist that are perfect for me. Every plumber and tradesman I know has Milwaukee or Dewalt.
Or Makita
Dewalt. Made in America makes em all good
@@l.no.solace7209 I too buy De Walt because it’s American. Never had any issues with De Walt.
Have an 18V Dewalt combo pack my dad bought me over 16 years ago for Christmas. Everything still works like new.
@@gellotion makita has better quality imo just hate the fact that they don’t innovate as much as milwaukee which makes me shift towards them
I love my 18v Milwaukee Fuel Tools :D never let me down and they have seen some hard times :)
never really used any of there plug in tools though 🤔
I have a Milwaukee fuel gen 1 impact and that things a Monster still
@@johnenright4969 yeah. Some of it is seriously still usable. Holds up (minus the cords) for the most part!
As a Wisconsin voter, I hate Milwaukee for a different reason…
They came in clutch
Ahahah
@@briang9413 the rest of america? So those 72 million+ don't count??
Well they are no longer made or owned by an American. Look it up!
🤣🤣🤣
I have been to Milwaukee plants in Mississippi to visit. They went from Union laborers that cared to $10 per hour temp workers. Imagine that.
If quality is the same then what does it matter
@@jintarokensei3308 the quality was NOT the same. The untrained temp employees made many mistakes.
@@thunderinms are they still bad now?
Shrugged… that’s the best capitalism’s practice. Who cares about unions. They’re the worst kind of hand outs, they give lazy people job stability
@@Asianevermore because people can't have job stability?
"Milwaukee tool guys are the biggest fanboys." And I'm proud of it! 😂
Your damn right brother !
I bleed... Red. I guess that doesn't work so good there
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🤷🏻♂️😂
@@adfadgaqgv LOL Nice one!
M12 and M18 lines are good.
I don’t necessarily like/dislike one brand over the other. However, if I get the opportunity to use a brand and I like it, I don’t really try anything else. That being said, I prefer DeWalt.
I feel that if you've worked with high end Dewalt, Milwaukee or Makita you are going to get a really well made, strong power tool. It comes down to personal preference. But arguing what's the best of the high end, similarly priced power tools is a conversation that has no end.
Agreed 100%
Yep
Amen
I have a mix of all the brands you mentioned. Dewalt 20v is my work set , milwaukee 12v is at home and makita is my brand of choice for corded hammer drills. The sub compact bandsaw made by milwaukee is amazing, also milwaukee's 18 v fan is a lifesaver in a hot attic.
@@MaxwellBenson80almost the exact same, I just add the Makita subcompact which are the most perfect hand fitting tools I own, smaller often than the m12 but more power and without the thick handle. But, m12 is a way bigger line to be sure!
as an auto mechanic, I'll say their cordless m18 series impacts and ratchets are the best in the biz, even over snap on!
Milwaukee M18 tools are only really surpassed by Hilti,and they're much more expensive with a much more limited line of tools.
It's why Milwaukee dominates the various mechanical trades, with Dewalt only being the most common in construction, notably framers.
Tbh anything is above snap on
@@Jperales96, no, that's an idiotic comment. Snap-On makes great tools, they're just way overpriced.
@@affliction1979 and that becomes a bad tool.
I share the same thoughts. My first power tool was a Magnum Holeshooter drill. The quality of that drill is still impressive and those tools were the best you could buy. Yes the industrial build quality of the tools gone and the prices kind of stayed the same. Can anyone remember the Milwaukee hoists and bench grinders...
I got a Milwaukee ad on this 😅
For their vaccum?
Same reason I’m a bit sour towards Craftsman... the tools I got when Grandad passed away are not the same tools they sell today! From wrenches to pliers to screwdrivers, it’s a night and day difference!
@Tilc Rekcil Lowe’s honors them now
And funnily enough, talking about grandad stuff, it's kinda the same in post soviet countries, most of my friends always looked for old soviet car tools cause that stuff was pretty much indestructible
"A bit sour"? Craftsman has rebranded themselves as low-grade trash.
Disposable entry level tools for occasional DIYers.
And yes, I do remember how solid they used to be
@@gellotion mee toooo
Nothing is mad either same anymore 🤷
Uhh Stanley Black and deck wrote the book on taking a brand and running it into the ground,at least Milwaukee tools are still decent ,look what the owners of Dewalt did to PC .I guess I don't understand .
I've only had one battery fail on my milwaukee tools. They've taken the abuse I've thrown at them.
Damn shame what they have done to Porter Cable!
Every industry is like that... Look at cars, 1990-2000 stuff still drives with minimal upkeep when a 2010 one already has something seriously bad with it. And I'm not pointing to any brands specifically, but as a whole concept, companies realised that a product that doesn't break means there's less repeat customers, so everyone is doing it. Designing their products to break after a while...
Sure fricking did lol !
@@PastLight yep, cheaper parts, more parts, more tech and less QC in overseas factories.. yet the msrp’s keep skyrocketing
When I was strong young man many years ago we used a big Thor 1/2" drill at work. It was very powerful and geared down so the drill bit turned real slow. We had handbooks with detailed instructions for EVERYTHING we did. The instructions for our Thor drill said it a 2 man operation. One guy holds the drill and the other guy puts a 3 foot steel pipe over the drills screw in handle to keep the drill from spinning. Some of the "tough" guys got their fingers and wrists broken because they thought they could operated this drill by themselves. They finally got rid of those Thor drills and replaced them with 1/2 drills that weren't geared down and it ended the problem.
My Uncle worked at Thor a lifetime ago, and I ended up with his big slow drill. Decades ago I needed to drill out a hole in my old home's 8x8 sill plate and as I wasn't paying attention... it picked me up and tossed me.
Yep... torque galore. Dunno who has that monster now!
"Milwaukee tool guys are the biggest fanboys" - something fanboy of some other company would say
@Jackerson Roze same with my Milwaukee collection. I think Milwaukee makes fantastic tools especially put head to head. but RYOBI is really getting to be a force to be reckoned with
@@vorticalacorn7ok906 same parent company
Ryobi has a very good range of tools but my little angle grinder burnt out recently
Milwaukee tools were the go to tools for the trades when I worked with my tools, they took a licking and kept on ticking. Currently, I am impressed with the Milwaukee Battery Tools, rechargeables, their drill/driver and impact tools. Takes a strong man to admit when he has a bias against a product and why, when it based on value, it makes sense, we expect a good value when we spend the hard earned money.
I'd be interested to see you try their newer stuff, the fuel and surge stuff is pretty incredible. I switched from dewalt last year and love it.
I like the surge impact. But it's definitely in need of more durability work. Started losing power way before my regular fuel impact did, and now it doesn't work properly.
I use Makita, I’m a die hard makita fanboy. But I’m going to start picking up some of the M12 compact stuff since I do automotive. You can’t beat how compact they are. But the big 3 are all great tools that all have their pros and cons. It’s really up to personal preference IMO.
Shame Milwaukee is owned by communist china
Bosch, Makita, DeWalt,Milwaukee and Metabo. Pick a color....
@@lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269 basically, but also look at the offerings, like all the weird things you can get in cordless of that brand. Coffee maker, good radios, charging station, fans, lights, weed wacker, chainsaw, all the things that arent drills and saws. Do your research, and any of those brands are decent enough.
PS. Blue Bosch because that's prosumer version, the green Bosch is home owner consumer version.
Makita user here. I bought the battery adapters for my makitas to use most of D20v/M18s style batteries, so when I find them at garage sales on the cheap or work w/crews who have different brands I can use their batteries on my tools. Amazon or a 3D printer and “thingaverse”.
Milwaukee’s quality is superb any more ever since brushless and fuel series, fuel series is where it at for us mechanics, years of life, years. They did have a cheap point in history, not no mo, and if you look into it, they really pioneered and first perfected the lithium battery , and generally, will always win the battery race;)
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There ok but not the greatest when it comes to water or drop resistance ended up switching to dewalt and snap on. I do still have my Milwaukee 1/4” ratchet it seems to be the best on the market.
@@MarkyMark1986 I've dropped my snap on ct9075 off a cat 988k on accident and the battery connector snap in half and had I wait 2 months for another one where as my milwaukee only had a crack near the handle (I work at Empire CAT here in Arizona) so I'm always around heavy equipment
Milwaukee still makes some pretty good tools, but the overall market has changed drastically since they were the "go to" choice among construction workers back in the 70's. They now make tools for the casual DIY homeowner, while also making a line of tools for the hard-core, heavy duty user, and the prices and quality differences between those lines is quite significant. I never considered Milwaukee to be an industrial grade tool, which is something that is built to run 24/7 under extreme conditions. Tools like that are not a practical option for 99.9% of consumers, but they're out there if you want to pay the price.
Milwaukee actually is what we use in my trade. I've been using them hard daily in a variety of conditions for years and they perform quite well. They're definitely overkill for the average DIYer.
You can definitely see their strengths and weaknesses. Milwaukee heavily focuses on the mechanical trades and not so much in the building trades. Their circular saws are all inferior to dewalt, but their impacts can’t be touched. Their automotive lineup is way more extensive than anyone else as are their electric and lineman tools. Every single plumber I know swears by Milwaukee because they all used the the hole hawg and I guess the first time it nearly broke their wrists they knew Milwaukee wasn’t putting out toys.
@Brandon S don’t get me wrong, their carpentry tools are still workhorses, but the dewalts are a little better. I personally own at least half their fuel lineup. But, in every head to head I watch all of the dewalt circular saws outperform them (and dewalt put features on theirs that any carpenter should want like positive stops at common angles). Their miter saws also all seem to have issues either with blade deflection or the fence not being straight where dewalt is known as one of the best miter saw manufacturers. The dewalt cordless router is a bit more powerful than the Milwaukee. Milwaukee’s newer nailers are way better though, they work as fast as pneumatics and don’t need to rev up flywheels to shoot. Again, not saying they’re bad at all, but you can definitely see where they’re a little behind in that trade segment.
Just about every mechanic I’ve ever worked with buys Milwaukee power tools. They’re far more popular than snap on and even air tools. Working on trucks and heavy equipment, a 1/2 Milwaukee high torque impact is more of a staple than anything else.
Lmao 1/2"??? They use 1" more often than not
@@jlsgarage872 You want to argue with me? Have you run a service truck with no air compressor before? I’ve run one with and without and In the shop working on anything from a car to large scale paving and forestry equipment and everything in between- the only time I’ve used a 3/4 or 1 in gun is to pull wheels off a truck or do driveline and suspension.
One of the worst drills I've ever used was an older 18V Milwaukee. They definitely dropped in quality for a time, and I became pretty sour on the brand for a pretty good while. When everybody around me started using their m12 and m18 tools, as well as their hand tools, I started to take a second look. They definitely stepped up their quality, but even more so their innovation. They're for sure worth a second look these days.
Milwaukee: Yep. Betrayal. What they've done to that Hole Hog you're holding is a crying shame... I still have my old one with brass gears ... Outlived four of the newer ones with nylon gears.
I’ve still have 2 old ones and 3 new ones and guess what still all are still working ! Had to replace a armature on one of the newer ones several dead dewilts for parts maybe lol one thing is for sure we need to get the manufacturing back in the USA 🇺🇸
Been using Milwaukee for 20 yrs. The carpenter who taught me, used Milwaukee. I followed with what I knew, and have been happy and content, with the yrs of performance the tools have given.
I agree with you about milwaukee having their "meh" section of time but I think they have gotten a whole lot better over the past couple of years. Their innovation is definitely ahead of any contractor/pro-consumer tool company. Maybe give their FUEL line of tools a shot?
I'm a 30 year diesel engine tech and the farthest thing from a tool collector or brand fan boy. I own everything from Snap On to Harbor Freight and everything in between. It aint the arrow, it's the Indian kids and don't let anyone tell you any different. That being said, I've been in field service for the last 17 years, primarily in the marine sector. We just completed an 18 month long cylinder head rework campaign on 10, 12 & 16 cylinder high horsepower diesels. Assembly torque on these heads was 200nm (about 150 ft lbs) plus an additional 180 degree torque turn. That's pretty tight ; ) On a 16 cylinder engine that equals 64 head bolts per engine, X 2 engines per vessel. There were 6 of us involved in the campaign and we all invested in the Milwaukee 3/4" drive impact drivers. We're talking thousands of head bolts over the course of the rework effort. We beat the living sh!t of these things for a year and a half and not one failure among us to speak of. All of us ran them to the point of them shutting down due to overheated batteries/guns. We'd let them cool off, drop a fresh battery in and go back at it. All of us broke /wore out impact sockets in the process. I'm not easily impressed but that experience spoke volumes to me. I own their 3/8, 1/2 & 3/4 impacts. The rubberized grip on my 3/8" impact blistered due to oil contamination (it still performed well, the blistering was the only issue) and Milwaukee replaced the entire gun no questions asked. I respect your opinion on them but just wanted to relay some real life experiences. If their quality starts to nosedive, I'll be the first to dump them and go on to greener pastures. But for now I just don't see anything significantly better, at least for the mechanical side of the universe I work in. I can't speak for the carpentry trades or any others where Milwaukee has a presence, but for now they're the undisputed champ.
What were your best performing impact sockets, you think?
@@zoticus1 Most of us went with the Sunex ones that can be had pretty much anywhere. They were cheap but did the job. Impact sockets on a project like this where they see way more use than normal are basically disposable. No tears shed when one got too beat up for further use, just toss it and get another. I still have my first 1/2" drive S-K impact socket set from 30 years ago, S-K rarely gets mentioned in tool discussions but they still make them in the USA. I'd put them up against anybody else's in a second.
@@kayakfish9912 I got a proto 1/2 deep impact set, built like a brick shithouse.
Sunex is solid performing.
I blame the "bean counters" for Milwaukee's quality issues, you're right - price stayed the same while the quality went downhill. I had one of the old school porta-band's and they were all aluminum and made in America. Now they're mostly plastic and made in china. Had several of their 4-1/2" angle grinders over the years for use as a welder, and those could be rebuilt/ refurbished fairly easily. Had my tool repair guy tell me avoid the new Milwaukee stuff - it's junk and cannot be repaired, you just have to buy a new one. That's when I switched to Dewalt also. BTW - there is a big difference between "homeowner grade" and Professional grade" !!!
Owning an HVAC business and primarily installing syatems in old and new house's Back in the day it was Dewalt but I would go through drills at about 2 a year, switched over to Milwaukee 18 volt stuff, 15 years ago you bought a drill and sawzal for life and just replaced the batteries every couple of years.
Now days I end up replacing the drills and sawzals every couple of years and keep the batteries for life.
Just replaced a 2 year old sawzall last week and today I just took back a jig saw that was under a year old with very little use.
I will say Milwaukee does't ask any questions when I send it back they just hand over a new tool.
M18, 5 year warranty. And if you OWN an HVAC business I bet you can walk into a supplier like Fergusson that has Milwaukee tools and swap it out no questions asked, assuming the cashiers know you.
@@mrniusi11 Ha! Thats funny Ferguson only gives hard times.
Corded tools and extension cords. After years of cordless use I appreciate corded sawsalls, hammer drills, and skillsaws more and more.
I just bought an old milwaukee sawsall on line for $10.00 , working . I bought it for taking down a shed , it is working so well I desided to order brushes and a new shoe for the same . Old Milwaukee (located in Brookfield Wi.) Works as great as it's name .
I had the same experience with Mikita and switched to Dewalt. I think the battery powered tools of all name brands are so similar anymore, just pick your favorite color!
You must not be in the trades.
I hope you give Milwaukee another chance. In my personal experience, I've got a 4 year old drill and impact set that has outlasted 3 DeWalt sets that the other guys use (Very heavy use). Needless to say, they're all converting! You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. One thing I love about you is the fact that you have honest and experienced opinions and the only thing that changes your mind is real life applications. And you tell the truth based upon that. Thank you for making such a great channel!
Because if Milwaukee had stayed all American for the last however many years, we'd all be paying 1500 for a combi drill now. Supply and demand always ends up cutting corners, sadly. I've seen so many great companies go from great to good and move production to countries where pay is lower and components cheaper to make more profit. I come from a very small town that was once the lock and key capital of the world (Yale, Chubb, Union etc all established in this little town) and we also had huge production factories and steel factories, all gone now. I have seen so many great English and British brands and factories close down and sell out. There's nothing here anymore.
I have both Milwaukee and Dewalt and both have treated me pretty well. My old hand tools are Craftsman from the 70s and early 80s when they were solid tools. It seems to get harder each year to know what to buy, but I have found Tekton and Gearwrench to be decent brands even though most are made in Taiwan. I have found Taiwanese and Korean tools to be quite good, far better than Chinese tools. Not as good as Japanese, German or most American tools, but great values.
It certainly feels better to contribute to Taiwan aswell, as well as korea.
Man. The Craftsman situation is just sad. I've got an early 70s jigsaw my grandpa bought at Sears, and it still runs like new. The company I work for recently swapped to Dewalt, because the Craftsman impacts they started buying in 2017 kept burning up.
I like having those two, too. That Dewalt is amazing for precise and delicate situations, but that Milwaukee is a beast that will tear through anything. I use that Milwaukee for framing and sinking concrete anchors, and the Dewalts for trim and cabinetry, and it makes the job go smoothly every time.
Check out Lee Valley tools, they carry a full line of the tenon tools in varying sizes, from a 1/4 inch and up. I have the complete set of their Veritas Tapered Tenon System, including the counter sinks. They're not cheap, but then again the log furniture I produce sells really well. Everything I make sells. The best part is, my building materials are practically free.
Love Lee Valley I shop at their store in Ottawa. For me a great local company.
@@gillbujold1918, I've been buying Lee Valley tools from when Ottawa was their only location. As a matter of fact I have everyone of their tool catalogues. The closest location to me is about seven hours away in Kelowna. Fortunately I have relatives who live there, so when we go to visit I'll spend half a day and a whole paycheque before I walk out the door. Shhhhh, don't tell my wife. Lol
Looking to pick one of those tenon tools up myself.
I helped a fabricator friend build a basic jig/machine for tenoning logs for a local log furniture shop. It used one of those cone shaped cutting ends like you have there. We nicknamed it "The Circumciser". As far as I know, the shop still calls it that ten years later.
I'm glad I'm not the only person that likes Dewalt more than Milwaukee, although I have a fair amount of the Milwaukee M12 tools and most of them are great.
Hilti is better then dewalt, dewalts good aswell though, Milwaukee is trash
I’m a dewalt guy- although Milwaukee 12v small batteries are very appealing. But dewalt to me has the least bulkiness.
I feel like the exact same argument could be made for Dewalt, so I guess I'm not following you on this one.
For a lot of tools. Once you start making stuff in China quality goes down. I have all the different color tools. I prefer Milwaukee red, But DeWalt was the first at quite a few tools (60v chainsaw, chop saw, table saw, weed eater etc) so I had to invest in yellow. Now Milwaukee makes about everything but usually it costs a fair amount more.
@@DK-jd8bj a lot more for most tools and I've had mixed experience with both Dewalt and Milwaukee both top notch
Everyone knows Dewalt is not worth it now.
I have to agree with you. TTI , based in Hong Kong, owns Milwaukee, Ryobi, Homelite etc. Stanley B&D owns Dewalt, Porter Cable, B&D etc. Two different companies - same story. Milwaukee vs Dewalt comes down to which color you like more and which battery platform you commit to.
At least DeWalt still makes some things in the US
The reason why guys use Milwaukee cordless tools?
They use them so they don't have to share batteries with Makita and Dewalt guys.
Also: Makita drill can be used UNDERWATER. Milwaukee stops working in the rain. Seen this with my own 2 eyes. 👀
Funny you say that. I have the exact opposite experience.
Most of my milwaukee tools have been used in the rain plenty of times and never failed.
Bullshit. I'm a service tech in the car wash industry. My Milwaukee tools live in water and keep going. Still using a Gen1 kit from 5+ years ago.
They make battery adaptors.i have some for dealt and ryobi that way I can just use my milwaukee batteries.
The reason I got into the Milwaukee cordless lines was the impacts with their power and the 5 year warranty. Then after I got invested into the m18 and m12 line I started buying the outdoor power equipment and I absolutely love the quick loc trimmer and leaf blower. I just got the pole saw attachment ordered for the trimmer and I'm probably gonna break down and pick up the m18 chainsaw one of these days.
I have the identical Milwaukee 1/2" drill with the auxiliary pipe handle. I used to do car stereo installation, beginning back in 1981. That drill was great for cutting a 4" or 5" speaker holes in car doors, which were never originally intended to have speakers mounted in them. You could brace the drill handles against your legs for stability, as you carefully eased a big holesaw into the door panel. Irregular metal & odd bracing could cause the holesaw to grab, so it was important to be able to hang on for dear life, because that drill is not going to slow down any time soon!
When I start collecting my arsenal of tools as I grow older (18 now) I'm likely gonna go Milwaukee. I've seen countless unbiased tests (project farm to name one) and more often than not Milwaukee is coming out on top with performance and reliability. And it would just make since to pick and stick with the 1 brand that does the best.
Project farm is undeniably the best. I trust that man with my life 😂
Look into rigid. I keep dewalt and hilti. If I had it all to do over, rigid would be my choice. Can't deny a lifetime gaurantee
@@benjaminsaturday8300 rigid only has its warranty going for it, they stepped backwards when they completely abandoned the octane serious and switched to a compact tool company
Do your research on design through thought and company direction/ focus. Don't go off a hunch or preference of tool color hah
Ryobi = Homeowner
Rigid = DIYer
Milwaukee = utilities
Makita = can't make up their mind
Dewalt = All around builder
I was in a similar situation Jackson, and chose Milwaukee. I (20) work for a general contractor and have been on a few jobsites with multiple trades working at the same time. There's really only 3 brand names of hand tools on any given jobsite. 1) DeWalt - DeWalt appears to be most prevalent (and most used by our carpenters). Most of our guys have dozens of batteries and chargers for DeWalt tools, so it doesn't make sense for them to change brands at this point. 2) Milwaukee - Milwaukee appears to be most prevalent among electricians specifically, although I've seen just about every trade use them in some capacity. 3) Hilti - Hilti is more of a niche brand. Almost every laser level I've seen is a Hilti brand, same with powder actuated tools. I've never seen a Hilti drill or impact on the jobsite (I don't even know if Hilti makes battery powered hand tools honestly). I personally chose Milwaukee because I found a really good deal from Home Depot, but I had already purchased a DeWalt set of tools. I ended up returning the DeWalts. The size difference between the two is ENORMOUS, your standard hammer drill from Milwaukee feels drastically smaller than DeWalt, same goes for the impact. Milwaukee also offers great auto/mechanic tools and I work on my own truck a lot so that's been useful. Bottom line is that Milwaukee makes some good stuff, but so does DeWalt. The one major thing I would give DeWalt over Milwaukee is that the way in which a DeWalt battery attaches to the tool feels superior to the way Milwaukee does it, but I have yet to see that affect performance in any way. Can't go wrong with either brand!
Milwaukee’s is the only 12v line worth marrying into a battery brand for.
Absolutely! Just tossed my Makita I got in a trade aside for a Makita driver, since there's much more tools available in the Milwaukee M12 line, ratchets and specialty drills and such, so for some of those, too.
I quite like my makita cxt tools, nothing wrong with them
I despise the 12v battery clips. They sure keep the battery in the tool, but it’s incredibly frustrating to remove them from tools.
@@grotevin I mean the older 12V MAX told that were made in white with the stick batteries. The CXT line is bigger tools. I was waiting for them to come out with more, but it never happened.
All of the battery powered tools Milwaukee makes are in fact made in China. No thanks. DeWalt and makita both have some of the battery powered tools made in Japan, England, USA and Mexico. Rather that than Milwaukee
I always thought that my experiences showed me that the best tools to buy were DeWalt for drills, Milwaukee for the sawzall, Makita for the angle grinders.
Sawzalls came in steel case’s.
My dad intentionally left out his craftsman and B&D power tools knowing I’d come home from school and mess with them. Milwaukee, Proto, etc. were locked up in the upper cabinets.
Project Farm compared a bunch of brushless drills, Milwaukee won hands down in every category.
all depends on what tool from Milwaukee,the drills are amazing
Honestly I’ve never liked Milwaukee tools for years but having used other trades big red stuff as of late , their tools are super Skokookum and chooch super hard
Skookum as frig
Have made multiple beds with my TimberJack tools and they have held up beautifully. Blades hold an edge very well. Super sturdy and well made. Great product!
We just swapped from DeWalt to Milwaukee at the firehouse. We’re a fairly busy rescue company and they are used frequently. We love them (i also use them personally). DeWalt has a great system, but I view Milwaukee as an equivalent option.
Last year I was faced with the choice of all the big names, DeWalt, Bosch, Makita, Hitachi, Milwaukee etc., and I ended up getting a Milwaukee M18 drill & impact driver set because it came with two 5Ah batteries and was cheaper than competing brands at the time. I also purchased an M18 circular saw and a third 5Ah battery. All three tools have been through the wars, used very harshly in both indoor and outdoor environments, chucked around on gravel and concrete slabs, and they have not missed a single beat.
I am very happy to have chosen such a reliable and high quality 18V battery system, and I look forward to adding more tools to the lineup. FWIW, I have no brand loyalty... I just replaced the circular saw blade with a DeWalt and it's marvellous, and I also use DeWalt and Bosch bits in the drill and driver. I honestly think that people care too much about that stuff as these brands are all top notch... just buy a quality tool, and stick with it.
They have improved Milwaukee significantly in recent years, not up to old levels yet, but getting there, currently Makita are my Go-to mfr, best balance of durability ergonomics and capabilities atm.
Fyi, I currently install window coverings but have extensive experience in construction and concrete work.
Like so many others on here, I have been using Milwaukee all of my life, and I am in my 40's. I started with hand saws and other hand tools that my Grandfather had since he was a teen, just starting out in the trades. I've never had a Milwaukee tool fail under normal, or even extreme circumstances. I have had a few get hot or otherwise slow down due to operator error and abuse though, but again, it was not the tool's fault.
Love the B-24 ending! Keep the videos coming, I like sitting down at the end of the day watching to see what you are up to next.
I prefer Ryobi tools, they’re inexpensive and work quite well. Long story short, you don’t need a Ferrari to deliver pizzas.
Cryobi on the job site lasted about a week haven’t seen a one on the job site in years not even the newbies !
Ryobi are absolutely terrible! I bought a planer once and it was awful - I threw it in the bin!
DeWalt is the same way man. It doesn’t really matter anymore if it’s Milwaukee or DeWalt or makita... etc. Take advantage of the warranty otherwise milk the tool for all you can get out of it
If your gonna buy tools, just pick the color you like the best
@@alvawayfarer6096 Rigid then
@@platinumvulture1122 on second thought...
I do hate it when good things go cheap.
Some tools I have used for 20 years suddenly change, look the same but just aren’t as durable.
I’ve killed their half inch drills in a relatively short period of time, but have a cordless portaband that I found the box for and was able to date the number on the box to the retiree who I replaced over 9 years ago. This saw has been in heavy daily use in the sprinkler trade where we use it as the primary cutting tool for all pipe between 2” and 6” both schedule 10 and 40. It is used in wet and dirty demo jobs, as well as clean new installations. It’s been inside the guts of the greasiest nastiest aluminum roll mill where the only way to degrease it enough to even hold the damn thing was to run it through a parts cleaner once or twice a day. It’s been kicked around the back of three work vans (outlasted three chevys lol) for well over a decade. Only repair needed in that time is new rubber boots for the drive wheel and idler wheel and I KNOW that is from having to use the parts cleaner on it. It’s the only tool besides my ridged roll groover that I haven’t had to replace or have significant repairs done to it.
Seeing the lumberjack tools I powdercoated on your channel is so cool.
Milwaukee make some of the best tools everything I have is Milwaukee I dropped a Milwaukee drill into a hole of mud from 15ft off the ground and the mud was like quicksand still works next week dropped it in a foot of water still worked!!!
Cody I hope you can try Milwaukee tools again!?
Cody, You might want to consider something portable as far as a mount for your lumber clamp. I know several ranchers that fabricate something that mounts to the receiver hitch of a truck/ side by side and that way when you placing fence posts out in the field, you have what you need with you, providing you have a generator for the power tools...just a thought.
Milwaukee fan boy here like he said we love em. Went through 2 top of the line Brushless 18v drills in roughly 9 months of use per drill. To be fair, rough professional use/misuse. Speed screw tip paddle bits at high speed and using 1-1/4 inch bits to drill side by side holes and connect them with rough use(This is what the guy teaching me showed me). Saw a lot of them break the same way. Chuck just falls off with all the insides and that's how ive heard of all their recent drills break. Those were company supplied drills and they had a repair agreement tho so misuse was rampant. Bought another one for my new job where I needed to provide my own tools. Treated it right and bought the 3 year warranty from home depot(given my past experience) and my drill is good as new 11 months in.
Milwaukee makes good tools, I use their m12 line as a field engineer... Some people are crazy about them and would spend money like it's their team.
This one is the video where I lost some respect… project farm always tested with mil performance at the top. Protect farm channel is the way for testing.
I bought a Milwaukee 14 ga shear cheap at auction but can’t sell it for half the new price but that price varies quite a bit so it’s difficult to know the real retail price.
I think you should look into the Fuel Line of premium tools that Milwaukee has; they are specifically designed for the professional. As a mechanic I have about a dozen or so of their Fuel impacts, drills, etc. that I use every single day and have had little to no issues since buying them. I highly recommend them for professional use, the Non-Fuel tools are for the guy who uses them on occasion at home.
Do West Coast guys even know what to do with an Adirandack Chair? East coast guys have Adirondack Chairs to relax in and enjoy a properly chilled odd beverage without spilling it. LOL God Bless!
Makita all the way for me... Never had problems with it last 5 years
Except the fact that their electric blower was stated as 2m length cable on their website, was a typo that should have said 0.2m.
Can't go wrong with makita milwaukee or dewalt honestly you just have to buy their high end line
I am extremely rough on tools an equipment. I don't baby anything. A car is meant to be driven, a tool is meant to be used. My Milwaukee tools have held up extremely well. Iv overheated them, ran over them, dropped them off roofs, threw them across the yard, used them until they were so hot I could not even physically hold them anymore. The only things I have burned out was the older m18 drill abusing it on a very hot day. It finally let the smoke fairies out. I also burned out the original m18 1/2 impact taking off siezed semi lugnuts. Those lugnuts were so stuck a torque multiplier couldnt even do it. Other than those, I have never had much issue with them. I would recommend them to anybody anyday. My only complaint would be that the battery life is junk when the batteries get cold, so if you leave your tools in a work truck outdoors during winter, just be sure to keep them on the mobile charger on the way to the job site.
Just bought the 3/4" 10 amp Milwaukee drill on craigslist for $300 barely used, then ordered one 4 1/2" tenon cutter and can't wait to get started
The brushless tools by dewalt and milwaukee are both great, I strictly use milwaukee because I'm an electrician and thats what we all use, so all of our batteries are interchangeable
Im younger but I have friends that have been in the trade for decades using dewalts and milwaukee, and the general consensus is that milwaukees last longer
Ive Killed so black and decker tools they ruined a lot of good tool company’s names and colored them with yellow said industrial what a laugh
Nowadays you are best to buy the cordless tool system that has the best fit for your needs, not individual tools per se, because the battery cost makes battery compatibility important. M18, especially the brushless models, seem to be one of the best choices on the market. Plus if it is a tool you might only use occasionally, you can get the non-brushless ones for less.
Using a Milwaukee corded 1/2" drive drill back in the 80's I literally snapped off the handle ( in my hand) while cutting a 4" Dia hole with a hole saw. The cord wrapped around my hand trapping my finger on the trigger. I was in a fight for my arm twisting off..... Luckily my buddy witnessed this and pulled the plug!
Retenoned cedar fence rails. Was able to salvage an otherwise throw away 3 rail fence all cedar. Did shorten the length of the rails, but not by that much. For what it’s worth, did not require much in the way of clamping. A jawhorse type tool works great. The rails were 4” square and tenon was 2”. They were about 8’ in length and I think anything that size will stay put when moderately secured. Not sure how your cutter works but you can control it’s plunge and pressure. Did not have problems with rails twisting or jumping around. Like you said “a pencil sharpener” it never bit in but shaved the wood making control pretty easy.
I looked into that stuff before, and the full sized bed caught my eye. Would be fun to make furniture like it and be able to sell the stuff at some time.
Milwaukee/Homelite/Ryobi, all made by the same Chicom company. A race to the bottom.
Stanley B&D too
Mathis218337 SBD is not Chinese Owned. Milwaukee is Chinese owned.
And Rigid Powertools at Home Depot
@@CJINW you said made by Chinese not owned by Chinese. Stanley outsources most tools to China to be made. They are not owned by China though that’s correct
i would suggest to mount the "log holder" onto a trailer hitch receiver and incorporate it onto a swivel plate.. then you could easily clamp it in a vise as well
I think Milwaukee has improved since you gave up on them. I keep being amazed at the quality engineering of the new tools they are coming out with ... especially their hand tools. For cordless tools, I use DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee and like the Milwaukee the best.
The real reason is that they dont pay you to say nice things to your customers. I mean fans
Glad your here to cheer us up when the election and media trying to keep us down.
@Brandon S I would respectfully advise you to just move on, view something else if you don’t like it. Don’t burden yourself Brandon. I’m concerned for you so juss sayin. Peace! 😁
I work on semi trucks and use my M18 Milwaukee Fuel 1/2" drive impact for things that most guys use 1" drive air impacts for and it almost always does the job. Just my $0.02
love the endings of these videos lately. Loctite saves the day again lol. I am one also when you get that nice item that has just some nice extras that were never expected. For me it was when i bought a lantern and it came with a really nice soft felt bag doesn't seem like much they didn't need to include that but its nice to be able to care for the item and tuck it away safe and sound.
"It's USA made looks like a quality item". There's this myth that Americans are hard working. And they surely used to be. But is that really the case nowadays?
I went on a cruise in Europe, staffed and crewed by East Asian workers (phillipino, etc), then immediately went on a Hawaiian cruise staffed by Americas. The difference was night and day. The Americans gave much, much, lower quality service. I can only surmise that the workers from the poorer countries had a greater sense of urgency and work ethic because they came from a much poorer and more competitive job market, where they had to work their asses off just to have barely enough to eat. Maybe they were just used to working hard. Maybe they couldn't "afford" to give subpar service. Or maybe they were under more draconian labour laws than the US workers were, and were less sure of their continued employment should they not perform to perfection.
Either way, USA made does not automatically mean quality. It just means a bigger price tag. Whether there is quality or not really depends on the person you're buying the item or service from.
I worked at the post office for 28 years and the quality of the Americans they hired sucked. They were all young people who thought someone owed them something. The good American worker is gone.
I agree with you, as Americans we have had it to easy for to long.....so most want to coast than actually push harder.......sad😢
Production quality is a lot different than quality of service. What you’re comparing is stupid
@Brandon S I am 65 years old and from Warner Robins GA home of Robins AFB. There are probably 2 Biden campaign signs in the whole town. I can't count as high as there are signs for Trump. Guess again? Oh yeah, I clearly said the ones the post office hired, "the quality of the Americans they hired sucked" I never said or implied that all American workers sucked. Maybe you should practice your reading skills or as a likely leftist yourself you just read and hear what you want to.
@@jamesallen2909 Work ethic is work ethic. If a person will cut corners serving drinks, they'll cut corners building a house or making a tool. Your argument makes no sense.
I'm a Makita guy all the way, their battery technology is second to none plus the tool quality is just as good as Milwaukee. The battery is the heart of the tool.
Makita is infact paying Milwaukee royalties for using Milwaukees patented Li-Ion battery tech. 😁
I'm done with Milwaukee tools. Bought a circlesaw and was dead out of the box. Bought an 18 volt drill/driver set with 5 year warranty. The first year I owned them they spent more weeks in the repair shop waiting on parts than weeks actually being used. I went and bought a Ridgid 18 volt drill/driver set while the Milwaukee set was being repaired for the third time in six months. Lifetime warranty and never had either one fail. So now I only buy Ridgid tools. Saws all, router, Sanders, more drills, etc. Never had one break in five years of heavy use. Can't say the same for Milwaukee.
I had a seized 30mm diameter cylinder pin on a large front end loader that wouldn't come out with heat or a 20 lb hammer. The cylinder was blown so the pin had to be pulled to repack the cylinder and get the tractor home. My half inch cordless hammer drill drilled that pin right out with a 1 inch bit. I wouldn't say I'm a fan boy, but I don't want to have more than one battery system to maintain and all their stuff that I've gotten is solid.
LMAO your explanation for disliking Milwaukee is hilarious.
Much like your opinion.
you should have seen Milwakee tools in the sixties seventies, A half inch drill was at least 4 time more powerfull than today. They came with a 3/4 pipe thread in the frame of the drill to screw a piece of 3/4 pipe into to hold it down. And believe me you needed it. Then Makita came out and Milwakee lowered its quality to compete with Japan. This latest sell out to China is the last straw, just junk. Milwakee also has always had a problem with too many different parts. It seams each year they change parts in their tools. I worked doing tool reapair for a while, and it was always hard to figure out and stock the right parts. DeWalt was always easier to fix because parts were more standardized.
i used 1 without the side handle and sprained my wrist when it caught, same with the roto hammer
This set was my biggest money maker, and cutting boards people love them, for furniture building, railings for in and outside houses, bars and anything else I could think of. They're great because you can use the trees on your property or around your area. Living in Alaska log houses were a thing so people liked log style things.
Thanks for this.
I recently purchased a Milwaukee rolling bag which only lasted 6 months until the telescopic handle just snapped.
Very disappointed lately in the quality of their products.
I still think the Dewalt sawzalls are the best for the price.
Milwaukee is the only company that can make sawzalls, and considering their warranties, I think ridgid is probably a better deal.
Hey Cody, like you I bought a few Milwaukee Tools in the late 80’s, 3/8” Drill, Circular Saw, & a sawsall, still have them, they have done quite a lot of work.
A few years ago I bought some Milwaukee M18 battery Opp. Tools. They seem ok.
I like Milwaukee, but I’m invested into Dewalt for the price. But I just bought my first M12 set and I’m excited.
You can’t go wrong with either. FlexVolt line is definitely a powerhouse. And M12 is a great compact and powerful line for finishing work.
That's exactly what we run. Flexvolt Dewalt and m12 lmao
Dewalt seems to be going down hill and I think milwaukee is making a comeback. Their 12v ratchet is my favorite tool.
You really think Dewalt is going downhill? Seems like they are trying to be very innovative. I'm quite satisfied with my Dewalt tools.