99% OF PEOPLE Don't Know This FACT About DeWALT, MILWAUKEE, & MAKITA TOOLS!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- We tell the #verycoolgang what fact 99% of people don't know about Milwaukee, DeWALT, and Makita tools in this video. Tool users aren't willing to accept the facts of the situation because of brand loyalty but we give you the straight up truth about these tool companies. Let us know if you knew what the fact of the matter was down in the comments section below.
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Seems all the top companies have their strengths and weaknesses, they need to listen to their loyal customers more or just you. LOL
This man makes me want to buy more tools 🤣
Hey Buddy, love that you stopped by!
@@VCGConstruction solid presentation boss 💪
Yeah, like after every ideo
This man makes me buy tools🤣
@@BuddysDIY n I koi. Kìin
Totally agree man. I bought into the 18v system for makita when I started buying tools for my DIY and hobbies. A few months later they announced 40v, and I had already invested into batteries and tool. So now, even though a 40v would be better for me, I continue to buy 18v/36v tools because I don't want to run 2 systems, and I don't want to replace tools that I bought in the past 2 years!
same. i'm on the makita platform too. while i do love my tools, and they've never let me down, i'm disappointed at lack of backwards compatibility with their XGT batteries. and they're also lacking in the storage and accessories department, compared to milwaukee. it just seems like milwaukee is constantly expanding their packout line, offering new tools, and their tools are pretty good quality too. idk, maybe makita focuses more on tool durability and refinement, and less on other stuff, but i'd be nice to see them innovate faster and offer a more expansive platform.
I am so sick of the battery platform headaches. You can't choose tools that do the best job because you have to worry about the batteries. I have Dewalt, Makita and Milwaukee. Of course everyone has their own battery platform and chargers. Why can't I have one Makita charger to cover all the tools? Why can't I inter swap batteries. I feel you Vince. It's called greed. Companies have figured out the printer model (by the toner or ink and get a free printer). Now it's by the batteries and get a free tool
They do have battery conversion clips. I've never heard much about them tho.
With all their popularity and clout, they could dominate. It seems like they’re playing it safe.
The large milwaukee stuff is just way too expensive compared to gas generators
Yes and plug a small gas jug filled up will last way longer than a single battery or even two combined probably on some of the bigger equipment
I was a buyer for a large hardware/houseware distributor. This will be shocking to some, these are all made in the same factory. I would go on factory tours and I would see one line making DeWalt and look over to the other line and see Makita tools being built.
The new cabinets are fantastic!
It make sense for Dewalt to step they game up with the big tools.
You know what makes no sense? Your grammar.
@1mp0ster oh my godzes! Really!?
Makita should have done a dual voltage like Hikoki
Thanks Vince! I was already aware of the DeWalt power station and the MX inverter. I have been thoroughly disappointed in the fact that Milwaukee has not released an inverter other than the M18 top off which is only 175 Watts so that's not very good and won't power much at all and the MX inverter is just ridiculously expensive to get into because there's nothing else in that lineup that I would want or need. I'm glad that somebody is finally asking all of the questions that I've had for a while because nobody listens to me when I ask those questions
Just buy the dewalt power station and a bunch of Milwaukee to dewalt battery adaptors and run it with m18 battery's if your in the m18 platform if you don't want to get into the mxfuel system
Damn I really hope they watched this I've felt the same way.
I’m salivating at tools on RUclips, after playing with tools all day. The joys of being an old man
Good video, but you're wearing the wrong red shirt 😂
I agree 100%. I'm on the Dewalt line and the only reason I haven't upgraded to the flex batteries is cause what's the point. There's barely any equipment to run on the batteries on... He speaks the truth. Dewalt hire this man, stop sleeping.
I think dewalt is comfortable with their market slice right now. But they need to start coming out with new products to grab the new generation of workers that are currently going for Milwaukee.
My corded out preform all my battery powerd. And i have used all these brands and more. And when the batteries die all brands, my corded is still going and going and going.
Blame it on Covid. Everything else is blamed on it. 🤦♂️ Also, Ryobi (though not self-proclaimed as contractor grade) are backwards compatible to their very beginning! Great points, Vince. Thank you and God bless! 😁👍✌
Great point
I have flexvolt tools and 20v tools I like them both. I'm an HVAC tech so I don't need most small equipment you mentioned
Yeah but dewalt is still doing themselves over by not providing the bigger tool options
"It ain't about how soon you make it, it's about how best you make it and keep making it best" - Rocky Marziano 1973
That’s one of my biggest fear, is to get into a tool line, just to find it’s obsolete, because the manufacturer has introduced a new line…Milwaukee has been faithfully supporting the m18 fuel line for a long time, and it’s good 👍
Junk, you obviously have not owned Dewalt. We have Milwaukee and Dewalt at work, the Milwaukee tools last about 2 years. The Dewalt 20 volt go and go. For 1 Dewalt battery in the 20 volt it takes 2 18s of Milwaukee to do the same job.
@@ddorn04 Maybe if using china M18 batts lol
@@ddorn04 Milwaukee has been great to me. I have some of the 1st gen m18 2.0ah batteries still going strong many years later. I've had 2 tools that had to go in for (free)service and were promptly repaired and returned. One was the 1st gen oscillating saw that a rookie ran till it smoked. The other was a m18 Surge that was left out in the rain and the trigger would randomly stop working. Both repaired for free.
@@ddorn04 the big deal is when you have an issue and need customer service. Milwaukee has it, and it's very good. DeWalt has it, and it's not. In my experience. ✌✌
@@jdisdetermined Milwaukee uses cheap plastics compared to Makita.
Bro your the best honestly. Your answering all of my questions about dewalt. They have an amazing line of tool yet no innovations. I 100% agree with you on dewalt
Dewalt has some of the best battery powered lawn equipment on the market. They are making strides where it counts, which is the heart of the system, the battery pack. Just some food for thought
Makita had a great chance to offer us some dual voltage batteries. They could have developed batteries similar to Metabo HPT's Multi-Volt (18V/36V), but they totally blew their chance. They'll never be able to turn around and make the change, at least not without blowing a huge wad of money.
I'm from the future and outside the USA the XGT line is smashing it despite a high price point.
Certainly the backward compatible battery is a big plus. I haven’t seen better battery consumption than Bosch but I’m not buying any more of that brand due to their quality drop & high price. Makita reliability & platform general support makes it come on top, they have more tools than any other brand like the electrical wheel barrow.
Dewalt can't even update their 887 impact driver or their 7-1/4 miter saw. Their releases are stagnant for sure.
DeWalt falling behind like Bosch has but it seems like Bosch's picked up the pieces in a trying to reamp their lineup it won't seems to be getting stale yeah they've released ope tools but when it comes to their power tool lineup they fell short yeah they offer a new hammer drills crazy numbers apparently from what they're saying they coming out with a 15 ah flexvolt battery good for them but they do need to update some of their older offerings at 887 is it smoke machine didn't have the proper cooling technology it's underpowered they need to update that model or just make a whole new model for the top of the line offering of the impact driver same with all the tools
I don't think they want to update the small mitter saw because they already have the 12" 120v max flex monster. I got it a couple of moths back and it's a real monster. I can do all the crown moldings and light rails on a large kitchen and the batteries (6AH came with the kit) only drain around 25%. Mind you these crown moldings are 4" solid hard woods that used to bog down my boss's DeWalt 12" corded mitter.
Absolutely no need for the makita to Need a 40v impact driver. 18 is just fine
Yeah, but the idea that a contractor can just have the 40 volt batteries instead of both 40 and 18 means less for them to carry around or stock up on. Would make more financial sense to have just one battery size for your crew
I love DeWalt and you're 100% right. They were in the lead for so long they took their foot off the gas. DeWalt's power station alone being out for as long as it has was a HUGE step in Innovation.
What has made me wonder is why makita didn't make the batteries backwards compatible!, they seen what Dewalt did way back and they didn't make that happen!
What's more impressive is that Milwaukee didn't have to change the label of their batteries but they seem to be compatible or more competitive with their bigger 18v batteries
40v will be the new 18v, more efficient, new battery tech (21700 cells finally for makita), more power, more tools will come. it’s up to the consumer if they will keep making 18v or not but I think it will slowly ween its way out and other big companies will start going 36/40v
@@travisjazzbo3490 you do realize the 2.5 amp 40v battery is literally the same size as all the 18v batteries right ? 😂 the tools are literally the same size but 40v obviously you can get more power especially with 21700 cell batteries that 18v line will never provide. As tech advances 12v gets stronger and 40v tools get smaller it puts 18v in a weird spot. Why go 18v when you can get all the same tools more efficient in 40v ????
Heh, Vince just wants them to play their hand early so Milwaukee drops the hammer!
In all seriousness, it’s a good valid point Vince. Only thing I can tell you is that, IMO, they have no focus. Haven’t had focus either fir a long time, which is why Milwaukee has, IMO, taken over as #1, and Makita is eating DeWalt’s (and by extension, SBD’s) lunch.
They will continue this trend of their until they have someone to unify and drive them again, like a certain competitor’s CEO who used to work for them did before.
So much this. I get asked weekly, heck daily, what my thoughts are on brand "x" and I always sort of hesitate on Dewalt. I go on explaining that they seem to run the widest range of quality to complete junk. Every brand has their failures, but it seems far easier to recommend a newer ryobi offering over a baseline Dewalt offering to the average consumer.
My time with deWalt ended after sh** customer service. Switched to Milwaukee, nothing but outstanding CS. Never going back.
@@jloomis7 asinine comment. Try testing out your recommendation and see the results for yourself. You pick any type of tool that they both offer. As a matter of fact, don't bother and just be a stay at home mother and support Ryobi's tools over Dewalt's. You're the biggest tool out of the whole bunch anyway ya damn fool.
Uh-Oh. I'm getting out the cold beer and pop corn. Axes were drawn, a name was called, and a line was marked in the sand. This is going to be stupidly beautiful.
@@danl.4743 Definitely had potential. Bait was laid perfectly, but no bites.. 😔
Why milwaukee did not come out with a power bank for m18 line? Generator is cheaper than the mx. I will buy a m18 power inverter bank if it also charges. I got lots of m18 battery packs already. So why not milwaukee?
I hate hate hate running Flexvolt batteries in a dewalt impact they're wayy too heavy and throw off the center of gravity. When I graduate high school ima buy some milwaukee tools bc they have the most well-balanced impact driver I've ever used.
Big problem with DeWalt is Stanley B&D. To many pies not enough thumbs. After the acquisition of Craftsman it seems 60v was just abandoned although that is to strong a word but 60v been out for a very long time and went nowhere. I think it was like a big budget movie that flopped in the box office and now has fallen into cult category. Sadly but that’s what I think the truth is. Tons of money into a radical idea that didn’t generate a huge immediate return and now is going to be “Dreamcasted”
It would help if S/B&D would allow Lowe’s to sell the 60v/Flexvolt line. They must currently have some exclusive deal with Home Depot and I refuse to shop there.
The power tool guy that talks like the wwf
My neighborhood's quick-cash/hand-me-down DeWalt and Ryobi tools have been such a boon for me as a green DIYer for this exact reason. New power for a new life. Folks who, understandably, dump their old stock to chase the best gear for their business can pass along ALL those grizzled goodies to me. Please, and thank you!
Here's to hoping that things move forward!
Milwaukee battery technology is by far a cut above the rest. They really nailed the technology on it. The mx battery will run longer and harde than the makita ones. Most platforms need to batteries where Milwaukee uses one that 12amp battery is a beast
Nice work, sounds more like a call to action than calling out.
Well said Vince...you're right.
Am and always will be a Milwakee fan. Bought the Packout when it first came out. I like the way they manage their lines of tools. Have never been a Dewalt person.
@vcg Vince this was a well thought out video. Thanks for your insight! hopefully the tool makers use your r&d. after all you are not even charging them for it :)
I started with DeWalt in mid 00's (NiCd), switched to Milwaukee for Li-on around 2012 but have been really disappointed with the last few rounds of Milwaukee tools, especially the drills (which are arguably the most used cordless tools) A guy I sometimes work with runs DeWalt and his tools feel and perform much better.
That being said, I'm looking into Bosch or Makita for my next tools. They at least own themselves and aren't just a name some Chinese company bought for marketing purposes.
Snit , I'm still running some older 18v stick battery dewalt stuff. Once the lion batteries go tits up I'll just by the 20v stick battery converter and continue to utilize the old tech as long as it keeps on chugging along.
@VCG CONSTRUCTION. Vince absolutely agree with you bro. There go's Dewalts lunch. Sharing is caring & have a good day Cuz. 🙇🏾♂️✌🏾🔔🤙🏾🖤's⚡🔥⚡
I do agree with you about Dewalt, If you are ahead of the competition why fall asleep. If you didn't point out this information, I would not have known because I was always the one promoting Milwaukee the one brand that I thought was making strides in developing tools to modernize the worksite. It is a good thing I didn't start buying Milwaukee tools I have one Dewalt I was planning to buy all Milwaukee tools, but Dewalt all the way now for me the tools are not Cheap here in Jamaica.
There is some good and big stuff from dewalt on its way
Dewalt makes great tools. Just dropped the ball on cordless automotive tools...
Milwaukee has dropped the ball on Carpenter tools and lack of some OPE
I’m on the Milwaukee platform and would like them to copy off the other brands strengths like the backwards/ forward compatibility and bring down those hefty prices!!
Very disappointed in the lack of innovation from DeWalt in the last few years 😢😥😢
I feel the same way about Makita's 12v line and subcompact line, really wish they had more options.
Agreed, Dewalt has been sucking lately.
They just had a pretty nice comeback year in 22 but I’m sticking with makita 18-36v and milwaukee 12v
Scored A LOT of milwaukee and dewalt stuff during the memorial day HD sale this padt weekend. Thank you again for all of the heads up on sales!
And even bigger sale is at Acme tools... 30% of $300 on Milwaukee tools....
@@adammendoza3503 is it 30% off 300 or just 10% off 300??
So happy I was in the 1%
I want my tool tip for free yeeeeaaHHHH!
Metabo 36v seems to be going in the top spot. Backwards compatibility also an ac adapter that will run all metabo 36v tools
the biggest thing I wish Dewalt had would be a battery-powered vacuum cleaner. I'm an electrician and something i can just whip around the job site with would be amazing. oh and also a bigger more powerful drill for using auger bits.
They do have a cordless shopvac. Is small I think like 4 gal but I work at Lowes n we sell them quite a bit.
That’s the only thing I like about Ryobi is that all there batteries can be used on any tool brushless or not
@@nbates9893 Facts I sold some of my old tool because they kept changing batteries I got fed up with it so I switched to Ryobi because my job started me out with the batteries M18s are a good line up of tools
@@ZachArmstrong02 yeah man I like having one battery that goes in everything.
@@nbates9893 Yea it's so convenient especially if you have multiple batteries and tools in the system
That’s absolutely the only thing though.
@@scatdog1 The tools ain't that bad use them daily for my job and they have some specialty tools that other companies don't have
Just get to the point and give the info. One joke per video is enough.
Another Great one Vince👍👍👍 Im definitely picking up on what your subtly hinting at but not sure if Dewalt will pick up on it🤣 I personally wonder if it has to do with Dewalts customer base. I mean a lot of Dewalt peeps are professionals with a thrifty mind set I feel. Wonder if Dewalt fears being able to get the margins needed to succeed at some of the higher cost equipment and tools. That would be my guess anyway. As a Dewalt guy Ill pay Dewalt prices and get the good tools although they might not be the best because I just cant justify to outfitting myself with Makita or Milwaukee as there wouldnt be much left to live on after shelling out for blue or red. No shade on those that can afford the top of the line as there are some awesome tools out there from Makita and Milwuakee for sure. But for many the cost of outfitting in those brands is just not feasible. And I feel thats where Dewalt hits the sweet spot for many.
So buying dewalt. This was exactly what i was looking for thank you
Dang Vinny you pumping iron? Looking good brother 💪🏼
“The Muscle Behind the Machine” shirt says it all
Love my makita 18v and 36v tools. 18v has been more than enough for almost everything I've needed. I've got two 36v so far both are saws. Coming soon will be 36v yard tools.
It's there...I bought the DeWalt chainsaw...amazing and works great
Which battery are you using on the chainsaw? I'm about to buy the same saw. Thanks.
Mx has announced a concrete vibrator and has parents for a miter saw and table saw it just takes time to make that stuff
Meant to say patents
makita will make 18 & 40 volt tools...the question is....are the same tools in 40 volts more powerful than the 18 volt versions ? does a 40 volt hammer drill have more torque and rpm's than the 18 volt version? dewalt flexvolt may be backwards & forward compatible but the tools themselves will have the same specs....maybe if they had 60 volt only hammer drills & impacts they would have higher specs than the 20 volt versions ? 🤔
Honestly I’d forego the added power that 40 volts may bring to smaller tools for backwards compatibility of tools I already own.
That old dewalt impact is the same one I’m still running!
I’m digging the Craftsman shirt. I’d like to see them continue to innovate and include more brushless options, like a dual bevel, sliding compound miter saw, similar to the Kobalt saw.
I've been waiting for a brushless jigsaw forever. Craftsman V20 Brushless tools are great, but the brushed tools suck monkey balls. I broke down and bought a Milwaukee router (cordless) and jigsaw, so I'm probably done buying Craftsman now. It's a shame, I have tons of tools and 4 9amp batteries, so I've spent a lot on money on Craftsman, but I cant keep waiting forever
@@chadhero37 Absolutely true!
(Excellent description, BTW) I began upgrading to Milwaukee last year, but used Craftsman to fill in some of the gaps for items that either didn’t get used as much or that were way out of my price range. They are good tools and might last, but only if you don’t push them too hard, which, from time to time we are all bound to do. After my oscillating tool crapped out 2x...I thought that it might be a sign to go all the way. With the help of this channel and a handful of others, I have scored some amazing deals and have really rounded out my set. I would still love to see Craftsman step up and innovate, but unless Porter Cable had a secret set of plans for a bunch of advanced brushless offerings (since it seems very much like the large launch of the Craftsman line was mainly a repainting and rebranding of the Porter Cable line) I don’t think it’s going to be happening as fast as we’d like to see it.
To bad it's all made on foreign soil instead of America
I've been dewalt all the way. I spend way more money on tools than I need to, but they're grownup toys to me. Plus I like being able to do projects on my own, and as an electrician I preferred dewalts impact, and then I was just stuck on the platform and stayed with them when I bought my first battery powered portable band saw. It was ok, but so much bulkier than Milwaukee. They finally released their atomic portaband,, which I promptly snagged.
But they've been starting to be more of a pain in the A$$ with their warranty. I had a service center deny me my leaf blower because it was past the 1 year and into the 2nd year of its 3 year, and that was the final straw. I recently just invested in the dewalt battery nail guns, and after this and, frankly, after realizing they are STILL using the dusty flywheel design, I went with Milwaukee and I love it, and my tool people tell me that Milwaukee is night and day better than dewalt for warranty.
Thanks for reading if you did, and definitely up for some feedback/similar experiences! 🙏🏻
I can barely see you behind that power pack bro..
DeWalt is mostly what I use , I got a good deal on a impact driver , so I just kept buying DeWalt, and turns out best investment, they don't have to prove anything to anyone anymore, DeWalt you people made it to the top
Dewalt is great regarding small power tools and hand tos, but their pneumatic tools absolutely suck.
Sponsored by Craftsman, who is owned by Stanley, who owns DeWalt. I wonder who he's going to favor??
I love your vids man I'm not in the construction industry I'm a diesel mechanic but I use lxt 18v Makita in combination with 14.4 snap on gear so love too see what else is out there.. lots of mechanics going the Milwaukee route because of there innovative automotive tools.. I started 12 years ago with a Makita drill and still going strong and that's why Iv stuck with them but Makita really dropped the ball on this one for me.. I'm now so invested in the lxt line and extremely happy with it but the compatibility between lxt and xgt is such a shame
Keep up the videos come vice I love Milwaukee and craftsman I have no problem with Milwaukee or craftsman
🍩🍦☕☕☕☕☕
You know You're just voicing your opinion and sometimes you have to voice your opinion so people can hear you
Dude are you on steroids? why so aggressive?! XD
Unless you buy a 60v flexvolt specific tool, ie. my circ saw or recip saw. They can only take flexvolt batteries. Not a big deal since I can use those same batteries on my 20v tools but just have to make sure I have charged 60v batts for the 60v tools when the time comes
How to make people not take you seriously about tools. Wear a craftsman shirt.
It’s just tuned down Dewalt & their tools & battery deals at Lowe’s are some of the best deals you can find consistently at big box stores by a large margin. People poop on the tools a lot but I’ve never had a power issue with their impacts. The brushless is solid & cheap & I don’t have to worry about my crew being rough on the tools… works for the work I do at least I’m not drilling through metal all day or whatever though
MX FUEL Concrete Vibrator was only new addition to the line up for 2021 so far, didn't see anyone else mention that.
Thanks OPT, I knew we could count on you!👍
The biggest thing I want dewalt to make is the 12 or 20v ratchet
there is a mac tools rachet that is compatible with dewalt 12v max, however its like 300 bucks
Yes DeWalt did it first with flex volt, but come on man, who in their right mind wants that gigantic beast of a battery on a drill or impact. Especially now that the trend is having the smallest tool with the highest torque. Weird it you ask me.
Milwaukee had a great idea with the MX line by making it strictly for small equipment, but the problem there is weight. Extremely heavy tools. Also, ask around town, heck even ask a Milwaukee rep about the reliability of the MX line. You have like a 50/50 chance of getting a functional battery. Not a good sign.
Now Makita took the right direction. The 40/80v XGT is what they needed. With 36v they were pushing it with small equipment. Now with 80v they can power anything that gas could power. I believe that they “did it right.” You questioned their reasoning for not adapting the old tools to the new batteries, which is valid, but from their point of view that would render 18v obsolete, and they didn’t want to be like dewalt. Recall the Dewalt battery fiasco of the mid 2000’s where Dewalt dropped their NiCd pod 18v line like a hot potato for the new lithium line, thus causing them to loose like half of their market share because customers were angry. Yes DeWalt had Lithium battery issues as well to top that off, but that’s besides the point. So yes, makita will have 2 lines now. Yes makes things a little difficult, but at least they won’t have tanks like flex volt batteries and 12amp hour batteries. Good for them. #winning in my book.
I like Ryobi's stance....they still use the same battery style since their blue tools....you can run their old blue tools on their new lithium batteries....none of the other manufacturers have done that....Dewalt made a half assed attempt for a ridiculous price with a bulky adapter to allow you to run the old 18V XRP stuff using a 20V battery pack, but it was bulky, and some tools didn't work with the adapter because of its bulk...if I recall it was only a small handful of seldom used tools, but still, it was an additional cost to keep running older tools when all they had to do was stick to the same battery style but replace the cells with lithium and people wouldn't have had to buy new tools, new chargers, and new batteries. Ryboi does have 40V and 80V lines, but the majority of the tools most commonly used are 18V...their 80V line is very limited by the looks of it so far just a lawn tractor option LOL....totally pointless line to have....their 40V line isn't much better, there's a few more tools there, but no hand tools in that line, mostly yard/garden tools there. Ryobi I think has the largest selection of tools in their main 18V line and are not as expensive, and a great DIYer and home owner option...although there's a lot of Ryobi tools out on jobsites, because they get the job done...that's all you need, a tool that does the job.
The problem seems to be quite common across most brands....new versions come out, and along with that you end up having to buy different batteries/chargers.
Dewalt has fallen behind the curve with a lot of their tools in quality and performance...still playing on the brand name and building tools that don't stack up against the competition and some of the competition is a lot cheaper, better built, and higher performance. Their prices are ridiculous anymore on batteries and bare tools....several other colors out there to choose from with better specs and less out of pocket cost.
I'm not very knowledgeable on the Milwaukee line of tools, or Makita...I've only had a couple of Makita 18V tools over the years and no longer have them, but they worked fine...Milwaukee is kind of like Dewalt, you pay for the brand name and not much else in the way of performance that justifies the exuberant prices LOL....
There's nothing wrong with any of the brands overall as far as operation, some are just better than others, and many just buy based on what batteries and chargers they already have, which is understandable to a point...but I have a few different platforms, as it makes shopping for a tool easier, you aren't just limited to that one brand because you have a battery/charger for it....if a tool is on sale that you need in a certain color, you can grab it and not have to pay more because you don't have that platform.
I've used pretty much all the brands over the years and for a long time I had mostly Dewalt....not anymore....I have a conglomeration of different brands based on what was available or on sale when I needed them, and it opened my tool options up by having multiple battery/charger platforms. The only Dewalt stuff I have now is the 60V Attachment Capable of weed eater, and the 60V 18" chainsaw....both work great, but the batteries are ridiculously expensive for no more than what it is.
Each brand keeps coming out with larger and larger batteries...but apparently never have used their tools with those enormous batteries hanging off them...makes them more cumbersome than just carrying 2 batteries instead of one heavy bulky one....try throwing that 12ah battery on a hammer drill and then using that thing over your head all day long for example....makes no sense at all. A 4-5ah battery is plenty for most tasks, if not, carry a 2nd battery....with the charging technology today it don't take very long to charge most of these smaller batteries, so by the time its charged you are ready to swap batteries...I try to keep 3-4 batteries ready so when I'm working on a project I usually have 2 batteries charged or on the charger while I'm using the other 2....typically I'm using a drill and a impact, or a drill and a saw...so I have a 2nd battery ready to go and that keeps me going on whatever I'm working on. Those larger AH batteries would make sense in like the table saw or miter saw, or something of that nature but not a tool you are having to lug around all day LOL.
Idk maybe Dewalt are catering to what makes money. How many people bought the battery powered miter saw for $850? They probably sell 100 impact driver/drill combo kits at $225 at 1 HD store in a week, and maybe 1 $2000 jack hammer. But great video, good question. I love flex voltage tools
DEWALT WATCH THIS WE WANT MORE TOOLS 🔧
As a welder i was happy when i saw the table saw and miter saw on the flexvolt ...i thought ok cool we are gonna get the 14" cjop saw ...maybe. A drill press...maybe a table top band saw.... Ya know a few more on the go metal working tools .... Oh the disaapointment
If Steven A. Smith and Tim the Tool Man Taylor had a son, it's you. Bravissimo
Spoken like a true prophet. 👍think companies do this to make money. Just my two cents. I don't think we will ever understand why companies do the things they do. I thought evolution was to take steps forward not backwards. Lol
dewalt has been a standard of power and reliability for me. i have a very vast amount of their corded and cordless power tools. i just became bored of limited options and the occasional hiccups with some cordless tools so i switched to makita as my regular tool of choice. i still have all of my dewalt stuff. but i am dissatisfied with the 18 and 40v makita battery issues. keeps me from ever wanting to invest more in cordless options
Seems that's the way with fast moving technology. Always one brand has a feature or spec that you want but not on the other, and vice versa.
Tvs, stereos, cars, flashlights, cell phones, power tools ect. Built in feature envy to buy the next new thing.
Because the switches, resistors, transistors and electronic components need to be built, designed and rated to take 40v. If you could get the 40v battery to work with the 18v makita tools how long do you think that it would actually last? Do some research next time.
So what happens when a worn-out battery and a good battery are used in conjunction while powering a two-battery tool? What happens when two worn-out batteries are used to power the same tool? Maybe that is why Milwaukee chose to create a battery lineup of its own for ‘small equipment’.
If the government can force apple to get rid of lightning charge port on phones and switch to usb-c…..not sure how any of these tool manufacturers are able to get away with same ? One battery should run them all
In Europe we are mostly using Makita. No problems at all. The 18v is the one somebody should go for.
More and more DEWALT and Milwaukee stuff is coming too Europe. But no one is really interested in. A lot of influencers would like to change that because of contracts and marketing.
I will stay with Makita the rest of my life. Never had any issues with Makita.
Very good point Vince, always loved Dewalt and still use their tools, but I feel like they stopped innovating, which is why I invested in Makita and Milwaukee.
It's an EZ answer, it's all about money. Makita and others all want more money. You would think 1 brand would do something money-wise for us the customer and there is and that's Dewalt. It could be better but hey it's a start.
Good work, Vince.
Just like to say l found your video very informative and well produced. Kept it real straight to the point you showed the pros and the cons of the two heavy hitters in the cordless power game and demonstrate the DeWalt system with its backwards compatibility so the consumer is not left buying new tools or new batteries just to continue using previously bought equipment. Well done ✅ keep up the good work helping us people out in the real world make informed decisions, and saving hard-earned money💰.
PREACH!!!
It's the same with cell phones. Every time I get a new phone I have to buy a new different set of chargers. It's all about the $.
The new 40/80v batteries won't work on the 18v platform because the electrical hardware isn't rated for what is more than double its ability from the 40/80v battery pack. If you tried to use the 40/80v battery on an 18v platform, you would end up boiling capacitors, blowing fuses and resistors. Basically frying the electrical boards. I suppose if Makita really wanted to make it possible, in my opinion, the 40/80v battery would need a mechanical switch to route it's power through a different circuitry and in the process, make the battery pack almost twice as big. Just as you showed with that DeWalt battery pack at about 8:40.
I'd like to see if an adapter could be made for m18 batteries to rune mx series tool like the Dewalt. So attach 4 m18 the goes in the mx slot.
I love Makita bits... even more so than milwaukee... but that's the extent of my purchasing with the brand. Mostly because of shit like this...
I think they're all in on it together - I believe that with many things. It's basically pick your color tool. Because if one was better than the other, nobody would make money.
Oh yeah makes a lot of sense. Get with it Dewalt!
Mr Vince I want to thank you i run makita cordless tools 18v and 40v. I have been looking into an inverter. I considered the milwaukee first because a coworker introduced it to me. I recently saw that makita is releasing there power inverter but it only runs with there backpack power supply. I did not even know that DEWALT makes a Flexible power inverter that runs off all its batteries. I’m sold. I ddidnt even know it existed. I recently caved in and purchased the 60v dewalt table saw because makita does not have one on the market and milwaukees is only 18v……..where have I been the past 4 years with dewalt. I’m going to purchase all there 60v cordless tools and the power inverter. I am now a 2 system carpenter after 4 years of owning makita. Dewalt is killing it with the flexvolt I’m just wondering where I have been the last 4 years.
DeWalt Flex volt and with the DeWalts adapter for 20 to 18v you can even run all the new batteries on the 18v platform form the 80s and 90s and don't forget DeWalt is coming out with the stak cell Flex volt 60/20v battery but I am still waiting on DeWalts to get that 14inch 20v Metal chop saw and a better 20in Chan Saw and a twen Flex volt All Mighty king Cizer impact Wrench with 2400 foot pounds of nut busting Tork like the Heg hog side I'm weight ing🤨
Volts don't matter - well, at least when you are in whole numbers - with brushless motors. VA or Watts matter - for batteries - and for motors, HP - or foot-pounds-per-minute - is the measure you want.
e.g. a M18 12.0 HD battery is 216 VA. (same rating as the Dewalt FlexVolt 12 A - yeah!) or the SkilSaw TrueHVL 48V 5.0 AH battery, that one is 240 VA. a bit more than the Milwaukee or DeWalt, but close. Makita, they don't really have big batteries, but they want you to use two. The 6.0 18V, that one is 108 VA, and their 40V 4.0 is 160VA. No wonder they want you to use two....?
Another factor is the cel discharge rate. 21700 cels have a great step up in capability over 18650 cels, and that makes the M18 HO and MX Fuel batteries kind of special - they are all 21700 cels.
MX Fuel is 72V, but Milwaukee is opting not to play the voltage game to inflate their marketing numbers - For that they get a thumbs up.
The CP203 is 216 VA (actually the same a a M18 HO 12.0 or a DeWalt FlexVolt 12.0), and the XC406 is a whopping 432 VA.
So yeah, do the math, and you can fairly line up these batteries next to each other in this manner.