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40V is very much being targeted at the professional / tradesman market, which keeps it out of reach for the majority of potential adopters. Aside from the fact that 40V hasn't yet proliferated the market in South Africa, purchasing even a single 40V tool is an unappealing proposition due to the high cost of entry - particularly in terms of charger and batteries. For context, at local pricing, 2x 40V 4Ah batteries and the single bay DC40RA charger will set one back around NZ$1000 - and then the core 40V brushless tools like impact driver, drills and saws will run anywhere from NZ$500-800 a piece. Personally, as a strictly home-gamer DIY type, and being already quite deeply invested into the Makita 18V ecosystem over the course of the last 5 years (13x tools, 6x batteries), I doubt I'd make the switch to 40V anytime soon, if ever... Frankly, unless you're A) a serious DIYer starting out from scratch in cordless power tools, or B) a tradie with a team and an ever-expanding arsenal of cordless tools, there's simply no real incentive to go the 40V route, which is a shame, because they're fantastic tools, packed with the latest technological developments.
I’ve been using the festoon dust extractor for years and only on my second bag. Take a standard bag, cut across one bottom corner, roll this over 2 times and clamp with a couple of small spring clamps ( mine are 15 mm capacity paper clamps). Remove the clamps and empty the bag. Simple
I’m on the 18v Makita system (mostly due to your channel and Tools n Stuff) and I couldn’t be happier with it. I thought about diving into the 40v system, but it’s not widely available here in the US. Mostly just online. I currently run a festool kapex and a festool track saw, and I would love to get the 40v miter and track saw for my field work and leave the festool gear in the shop. We’ll see how that works out with my wallet. Lol. Thanks, Scott! Always love your content and how you present information. Good luck on the house renovation!
SDC you are awesome. Thank you far all you do. I live in southwest Louisiana in the US and get so excited when you post a new video. Hey I’m 51 and have semi journeyman level carpentry experience (only for my projects) not my income. But every time I watch your videos I actually learn something. Plus I own all Makita, not 40v just yet, but within a year or two will start. Thanks again Scott!!!!
Bro I just randomly started watching because it popped up in my recommended and I recognized the hills in the background, low and behold you're based in Nelson. It's so cool to see a great channel from my hometown keep it up man
Interesting article. I suspect a pro like yourself needs that 40v platform to get through the day. At the moment I only have 1 tool, which you don’t seem to have. I have been doing reno in my house and bought an 18v drywall saw (DSD180z here in Canada). Its like a jigsaw but has a dust port and is designed to cut in either direction. Its the best investment of all my tools. I can remove whole sections of wall (or ceiling) if I need access and put the same piece back in the hole!
Bosch was one of the first with the lithium revolution. They launched 10.8v (12v max) and 36v (40v max). I bought their 36v stuff because it was the only corded performance available in cordless, but they basically abandoned it. Glad to see that Makita sees the value here.
*Kia ora Scott, Back in the early 1990's I brought myself a Makita 210 circular saw power driven & a Bosch CSB 550 RE hammer power drill. In 2023 they are both still going really strong after years of usage. Even after in 2021 I accidently cut thru the cord on the Makita. I pulled it apart and rewired it back up albeit now 1ft power cord shorter. I look after them well & they are not chucked around or abused. The saw still lives in its original cardboard box. I even built myself a one off Rimu suitcase with the polystyrene (with dovetails) to keep the drill & bits in. As back in the day they only came in the polystyrene & cardboard wraparound. But I have used a few battery driven tools.... just can not afford them.*
The Makita brad nailer rubber tip can be glued on with super glue. I do this with all my brad nailers. Just don't use more than a small dab of glue in case it needs to come off.
I have an arsenal of Makita 18 volt tools due to watching Scott’s channel. I even bought my wife the stick vac for the house. They are so smooth compared to my other tools.
Great video. When I became a furniture, wardrobe, kitchen, contract installer in the eighties I bought all of the latest battery power tools, 7.2 and 9 volts. They paid for themselves over and over again. They never failed me. They would still be used now in my retirement, but unfortunately, I had to throw them all away because the batteries became obsolete and never became cheaper to compensate for having to consider buying new 18-volt power tools. Now retired, all my tools are Ozito, they have 5yr warranties and work well. I am reluctant to purchase any more as they are made in China. My grandson is heading to an age where conscription may become mandatory, therefore I do not wish to send hundreds of dollars for tools or tens of thousands of dollars to China by purchasing a battery vehicle. My vehicle for contracting was a Toyota and like Makita, it was excellent. What's next? maybe electric power tools that receive their power from cordless mains power or electric vehicle. Wow! More power, no batteries, and charges. I wonder if one day you may have to throw away your 40-volt tools????
I really want the Makita 40v X-lock variable speed grinder. I have the 18v X-lock grinder but it doesn’t have variable speed which is in my opinion a requirement on a grinder. You can’t even use wire wheel attachments unless you have variable speed & you turn it down or else those metal bristles will become projectiles.
I;vve. been known to reuse the festool bags, pull the dust out through the hole straight into a bin, not because of price (although they are expensive) more because I didn't have any on hand.
I have some 18v Makita battery tools and corded… have been very satisfied with them 🙂 I recently got the 40v pole saw and it’s just awesome very powerful for a battery pole saw and probably 95% of battery pole saws on the market. The 40v hand planner is a BEAST it’s an angry beaver on steroids 😄 it puts all other battery planners to sham with a 4 mm depth of cut and doesn’t want to bog down .
I'm very much looking forward to upcoming deck build, it should be a masterclass. I enjoy building them too, but that's because the tolerances suit my style of woodwork!
I love my 40v tools. I also have an entire truck load of milwaukee tools, as well as handfuls of festool. But the 40v miter saw has been a game changer. As well as the "beam saw" and the rear handle "worm drive" style saw. Cuts so effortlessly. I feel like I want to get rid of my TSC55 and replace it with the makita track saw. I've had to replace 4 festool batteries so far. So the ONE battery sounds really nice.
Do it. I bought the corded festool years ago but for what it did it it was too expensive. First had the Makita 36V and now the 40V. Ridiculously powerful.
Great video Scott...keep them coming. I bought the Makita 40V 216mm Slide Compound Saw LS002GZ. What a great saw. I was going to buy the 40V AWS vacuum, but I purchased the Festool Midi vacuum and hooked up the Bluetooth remote. I'm thinking of only buying a handful of tools on the 40V platform. I'm still waiting on the Makita XGT 40V 165mm circular saw that you stopped at 9:57 in your last video. 😢😢
As many other commenters have mentioned, Makita tools might not be the most powerful, have flashy marketing or even apply to every meathead alpha male out there, when it comes to balance, longevity and reliability, there is no other. As a former Milwaukee, Hilti, Dewalt, Fes, and Bosch user, I can say that Mikita will always be my favored brand. I have mostly LXT stuff, but I’m slowly adding to my XGT collection. If you REALLY look at what you need on a job site and aren’t influenced by the guy working next to you, bragging about how his new impact driver as a billion ft-lbs of torque, you’ll understand that balance means comfort and comfort while working…means happiness. Great video! New subscriber.
as a retired furniture maker i don't really care if my tools are wired as i have plenty of points handy for that. however, as i have been restoring a 1921 400sm two story home with to many rimu features to mention i can understand why builders want cordless. i don't have a mitre saw as i never really needed one for work. however, i have beeen tempted a few times when having to make trips backwards and forwards to the garage. maybe when i replace the decking as the slats are on a 45' angle. so every single end needs a mitre cut.
I started off with makita corded but switched to dewalt about 9 years ago. However, I still use/purchase makita tools, their gib screw gun is fantastic and the 40v tracksaw is the mutts nuts
I'm glad to hear your thoughts on the Makita cordless extractors and see that format of the bag and filter (which doesn't seem great). I have an older (and larger) corded version that I absolutely love that is super quiet for the amount of suction it has (rivaling the Festool) and might have bought one had I not seen this. I think for my next vac (building a detached garage currently so I'll need one) I'm going to bite the bullet and get the Festool and dust cyclone.
I have a 40v grinder, a drill and a router. Once i was grinding and the tool stopped working and I was like hu? What’s this, oh! I almost forgot it could have a flat battery. You also don’t feel almost any loss in power until it’s flat
Nothing wrong with Ryobi brand.. I have the one range and beginning to replace the standard 18v brushless with one HP. You now will notice other brands following them with garden and car line types. Still got all my original tools from 5 years ago and they've been on sites dropped or covered in crap, and if kept in good condition will last. Others have come to me for my tools when their own yellow, red or blue brands are broken or damaged. Moral of this is to look after them!
Any tool producer shoud be able to multivolt their tools, given 18 was the main std 18/36/54v multivolt batteries are easy. a 54v 4ah battery is a 18v 12ah
Had Makita for last 30 years, like the 40V but love the 18V more!! Can’t stand the size of 40V batteries be good if they made a drop saw that allows either batteries and an option or adaptor to plug into power
Love the vids dude. Rather insightful. I've just come into a situation where I need to set myself up with some good battery hand tools, and I like the look of the Makita brand, I have used Milwaukee and liked it. Although, what I really do wonder is, staying with the 18V series, what would you choose if money wasn't the issue?, like what brand do you find had the best skins, and how do you find the after service? I didn't know that drills had a service schedule until recently!
I think that fan is the best tool that I see that Makita has, because it oscillates. That would be awesome for drying drywall compound or paint. I’m on a different battery platform so the Makita 40 V doesn’t appeal to me. I actually just bought a Makita 40 V track saw, but I sold it because it didn’t come with the battery, And I’m just gonna wait for the Ridgid one.
I started with the makita 12v.... Then I got the first 40v....now, after moving to the US, 12 and 40 are not common and don't have all tools, for example no sander...
What kind of diamond encrusted festool bags are you using bro? Here in the states a pack of 5 genuine festool CT bags is $30 and the long life bag is $120. Even with the USD to NZD conversion that’s only like $45 for a the bags and $180 for the long life bag
the only reason i have not upgraded to 40v, is that my 18v gear still works fine and the cost of these new 40v tools just puts me off, in the UK our wages as joiners hasnt gone up at all in 25 years!!!! So until we see a big improvement in wages i wont be buying any of the 40v gear
Scott - do you have plastic mounting feet under your heat pump outdoor unit? If not, you may be risking the condensate drain blocking up causing the bottom of the unit to rust over time.
Wet timber !!! Thats what i wanted to hear about tbh ... im stuck betweem flexvolt or makita 40v, im from Ireland so timber is wet 10 r 11 months of the year an that being th most important factor for me is how it cuts wet timber ... weather it be a fence board or a 6x6 wooden post this is vital in my choice an the fellow we are subbed into has a flex 8 1/2 an its a pure beast it never bogged out 1ce... an its was a wet mulsh she was shootin out so i was proper wet not this damp shit but i was litterally forcing it thru a diagonal grain cut butt.... it had a 9 amp on her an he says its a beast with a 9+
This saw ruclips.net/user/postUgkx84IcU5pbZd1Qrz8u4-YRLmJax7kdRi7B comes in handy in many ways. When I had a small (dead) tree fall I started the process of disposal by using this saw and cutting off the small branches. Then slowly work on the small trunk with undercutting and letting it fall down. With many trees on acres of land paying for a tree service can be expensive. It also is nice in that it can be used in hard to get areas like along my creek. It's also safer and quieter than a chainsaw. It obviously can't cut down massive trees but it does work fine for small ones or brush. And of course since I already own a Black
Been waiting for you to do this video since you got your first 40v tool. Thank you! Still on the 18v myself. 17 tools and 11 batteries later, all still have never let me down! Team Makita!
I use makita at home, have 18v & 40v. I use Milwaukee at work because I get it cheap through my work deals. The Makita tools always end up coming out to save the day every time I fry a fuel rattle gun, grinder, drill or impact, which is regularly
Here here still on 18v 19 tools and 35 batteries and it's still the best I just can't warrant paying that much more when it don't seem that much better.
Another good video Scott, keep it up! I'm on the 18v platform and it serves me well. That dropsaw does look tempting though, and using a tracksaw with one battery seems convenient.
I only have the tracksaw on 40v. Everything else I have is 18v. The 40v track saw is fantastic. It's low profile with only one battery, relatively light (I run a 4 amp hour battery on it) and I generaly only recharge every 2 days-ish.
I literally just bought the dropsaw three days ago, my first 40v item. It's an absolute beast, so small profile but powerful and accurate, big recommend
For your miter station, you should install a dust separator. Much easier to use and maintain than those vacuum bags. I use inexpensive Dustopper ones that fit on a bucket. Even made a mobile one that I use in the field, and as my main shop vacuum for cleaning up the workshop. If I added a strong enough cordless vacuum to it, it would be even better.
I made one in 10mins with a cheap plastic cyclone and a mitre10 bucket and a bit on sealant. Works a charm with my cheap as karacher shop vac. Saves the filter and don't use bags at all. $40 i think. Planning an upgrade to my dust extraction in my home workshop and will build a bigger one from scratch
I’m completely in to cordless festool. I had a decision either festool or makita. Sorry for me the festool wins but I do miss makita in some way for the power in some tools. I still have the first gen cordless planer I got a adapter from eBay which works fine and the 18v makita cordless router I also love for my hinge jig. Festool for me just has them little things which makes it easy and whatever job you do it looks great. Price isn’t that far apart compared to makita 40v.
I have a TON of 18v makita tools. I love them. But, when I recently got an earth auger, and the dust extractor, and the couple shaft power head, they were all 40v because those are pretty edge case use tools, and it's not a big deal being on a (slightly) different platform. So those were my entry into the XGT line. Now, I'll probably lean towards XGT going forward, but I have way too many tools to bother trying to fully convert now.
Hey Scott, I have a suggestion for you. Set up a cyclone dust separator! I put together a 5-gallon-bucket with a dust separator years ago, but I'm just a DIY guy who does small renovation jobs on my own house. I tend to work in short bursts when I have a couple hours here and there. Therefore, I don't make lots of cuts at once, and I don't need a high-capacity dust extractor or dust separator. The best thing about setting up a dust cyclone dust separator is that it's a lot easier to clean it out than it is to blow the sawdust out of the filter in your shop vac. If you set up a dust cyclone with either your Makita or Festool vacuums, you would probably cut down on the number of times that you'll have to clean out your vacuums by 90%. You'll save money on bags and filters too. I actually just use a small Makita 199553-5. It's designed as an attachment for Makita's upright vacuums, but it's just a small dust cyclone with an input port and an output port. I made a little holder for it. I clamp it to the end of my workbench, I run a hose from the separator to my vac, and then I run a hose to my tool. I use it with my miter saw, jobsite table saw, and various Makita circular saws that have dust ports. If I'm using it with my table saw to rip long boards, I'll have to empty it after just 1 or 2 long rips, but it just takes me a second to empty it. Like you, I prefer working outside when the weather is nice. I like that this dust separator is tiny, lightweight and portable. I'll bring my job-site table saw or miter saw out to my yard, bring out my vacuum-powered shop vac (mine is a Milwaukee, and it's also just OK), and bring out an extra 5-gallon bucket. It takes me 10 seconds to empty the dust separator into the bucket and then hook up the hoses again. I think dump all the saw dust in with my compost. Since you do bigger jobs than I do, you would probably want a dust separator that fits on top of a 5-gallon bucket. For your miter saw + circular saws, I think you'd want to stick with small-diameter hoses to maximize suction power. Bigger hoses and fittings work better for a circular saw or table-top router when you're generating a ton of dust. I don't have Makita 40V tools. I have Milwaukee 12v + 18V as well as Makita 18V. If I got Makita 40V tools, I would probably still use my Makita 18V subcompact drill (love it) and my Milwaukee 12V surge oil-based impact driver because this impact driver is the quietest one on the market, it's super compact, and it has way more torque than I need for driving 95% of the screws that I use. I also love my small Makita 18V saws -- I have one that's blade-left and another that's blade-right. If I'm cutting 2x4s, I prefer to use a smaller circular saw. I have a bigger hammer drill that I use when I need to drill into concrete or thick steel, but 95% of my drilling is just into wood, and for that, the 18V Makita subcompact has plenty of power. When I'm working up on high ladders or on my roof, I hate lugging around heavy tools.
Dust collectors are probably a good idea if you're set up in a workshop. But when you're on the road, it is just another clumsy piece of equipment to drag in and out of your van every day.
@@kiwigrunt330 I agree and disagree. If I were working out on a grass lawn cutting a bunch of dimensional lumber, I think it would be fine to just let the sawdust go on the grass. If you have to work inside because it's freezing cold outside (I live in Chicago, and it's about -10 celcius outside right now) or it's raining, if you don't collect the dust when you're cutting wood, you have to eventually clean it up later. You also have to breath in more sawdust as you work, which sucks. I think people don't realize that you can get tiny dust cyclones. Look at Makita's little dust cyclone attachment for their floor vacuums. It's designed to hook up to Makita's upright shop vacs, but you can just hook up 2 hoses to it and use it as a dust cyclone with any tool that has a dust port and takes a hose. This little dust cyclone is about the size of Makita's battery-powered blowers. It's small. I think it may weigh about 250 grams. When I use it with my circular saw or miter saw, I can make maybe to 30 cuts before it fills up and I have to empty it. I think the capacity is maybe 500 mL. I would personally collect 500mL of sawdust in my little portable cyclone that I can empty in 15 seconds rather than vacuum up 500 mL of sawdust that gets all over a room. For me, when I collect it in my cyclone, I can use my vacuum for an entire week before I need to empty out my vac and clean out its filter. Otherwise, the filter of my vac clogs up quite quickly, and the vac loses a little suction, which collects less dust as I make cuts.
@@MichaelDreksler The one that I use is sold on Amazon USA as “Makita 199553-5 Cyclonic Vacuum Attachment”. It is a small dust cyclone that attaches to upright makita cordless vacuums. That’s not how i use it. I made a little bracket for it out of some scrap plywood. I clamp it to the side of my sawhorse. I run a hose from my tool to the top port and another hose from my shop vac to the bottom port. It captures almost all the dust and shavings from my saws or router. It has no filter bag or anything else that gets clogged up. I just have to periodically undo the hoses, open the top, and dump it out into my larger dust bucket. This saves me from cleaning or replacing the filters or bags in my shop vacs. There are other dust cyclones on the market, but I like this one because it’s small, quick to empty, and the hose ports are small and work well with small-diameter hoses that fit hand-powered cordless tools like circular saws, track saws, and trim routers. I also use it with my miter saw and jobsite table saw. For table saws, I think you generally need a bigger cyclone, bigger hoses, and a powerful vacuum to capture most of the dust. With this small rig, i may only get like 70% of the dust from my table saw. For me, It’s still better than no dust collection or quickly clogging up my vacuum with loads of dust.
I have the 2x18V track saw and reciprocating saw that look identical with yours. I love them. This way, i don't need both 18V and 40V batteries (or just the hilariously expensive 40V ones for everything). I'll take having a couple extra 18V packs over having to keep two sizes of packs going. Mostly a question of price, i guess.
They ain’t they bad $ 2.5ah. You get what you pay for. 40v 2.5ah = 18v 5ah Just get the 18v/40v. ADAPTER and your set it’s 25$ and you can use 18v set up’s on 40v xtg
Years ago, I found your channel as a good source of 18V reviews and bought multiple tools and garden equipment using that platform. Great to see them still investing in that as well. Thanks for sharing, as always. Hope your loved ones are safe in the north island.
I bought the 40v drop/mitre saw after seeing you use it, and doing some research, The vertical handle is absolutely the way to go, way more accurate than my old rigid horizontal handle saw...
@@AshHalls neither do I having used both extensively. It seems as though the commenter is eluding to that fact however. I actually think the horizontal handle leans better towards actual body mechanics of how our wrist is designed to move.
I'm heavily invested in the 18v system and while there's some 40v tools that really tickle my fancy (the drop saw and tracksaw mainly), the cost to switch is what holds me off
Yeah me too...i own the corded Makita track saw......drop saw...and vacuum ... don't plan to switch to battery since its $$$ and i don't see the need since the tools still fit what i need. I use the 18v system for all my other Makita needs....i'm waiting for the battery technology to get smaller and lighter before i switch to anything bigger than the 18v batteries.
@@ck7cu yes, my thought exactly, I used 18v stuff and only had a 240v dropsaw and concrete drill in Aussie when I worked there , they were the only tools that I needed more than what the 18v could deliver. The only problem I found with 240v stuff was you had to run a lead and all 240v stuff need an elect safety cert every 6 months to use on commercial building sites that ended up being costly and inconvenient, 18v was good enough .....
I've got every 18v tool imaginable... but I bought the 40v mitre saw which came with a charger, 4.0 battery and a stand for $1300. I only have the 1 battery BUT it lasts a full day of cutting and charges in 30 mins or less so you really don't need to swap platforms to get some of the tools
5:55 that's the best tool you have. These days we have a lot more models of corded/cordless tools, but they are not made to last 40 years. I have a big Bosch demolition hammer, my grandfather bought it new in early 80's, then passed it to my father and I'm now using it. Neither of them were able to burn it and I think it will outlast me also!
Hi Scott, Im pretty sure you can get paperbags for the makita vacuums. I have the 2x18v and the bags for it are on sale here, here being the Netherlands. On the other hand I do understand the runtime problem, but since I have plenty of batteries I don't really mind.
If Makita NZ cares at all about how Makita Switzerland is doing, they can keep giving you tools without remorse, because your videos led me to battery powered tools in general and Makitas XGT series in particular. All the tools I got so far are awesome and even if I almost never need to travel with them, having no cord is a blessing in my tiny workshop. Another advantage is the compatibility with the garden tools. I would never have considered a cordless hedge trimmer or lawn mower without a compatible interface to my other tools and feeling reassured there is enough umpf in the battery.
I have been very happy with my 40v Makita tools. I have bought almost all of mine off ebay and gotten some really good deals. The deepcut bandsaw is great if you cut much metal, especially 3 to 5 inch ductwork for extraction fans and clothes driers. My newest and next to try out is the 40v sds-max hammer drill!
I'm still building up my 18v collection and already feel like I might be about to fall behind, with so much 40v kit now available. But good to see you still use some 18v tools. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing you use that drill! 😄
I used to use Dewalt 10+ yrs ago but once i got my hands on a Makita impact driver i never went back. I am sure a lot of brands are good now, I'm just partial to the Makita because it was a far better than other options back then. I use mine for metal roofing installations. Really enjoying the content :)
That's really interesting. I started with DeWalt 20v and have used other people's Makitas, Milwaukees, Bosches and other here and there. Every time I wished I had my DeWalts. I'm not a brand fanboy by any stretch but all the others have just been sooo meh. My buddy is an electrician and loves his Milwaukees, another friend swears by Makita. I guess it's all in how the tools fit your hands. Also, i just picked up the Milwaukee cordless track saw to (potentially) replace my corded Makita one. So far it's been great.
@@scotchbarrel3371 I also have a Milwaukee but it's quite heavy so it 's at home for the projects around the house. Never really use it much i just think it is too heavy... granted it is a 6 yrs old and i am sure lighter models are available.
I also use those battery holders, but after 1 week I had to take them all off and turn them upside down so the batteries slide up into them rather than down. That way you can check charge level without having to take the battery out. Much happier now….it’s the simple things haha
I cant say im not jealous of you and your tools. Been a long time follower and really appreciate the work you have put into the channel, you deserve all the endorsement you can get.
I watch you and Tools'n'Stuff, but try to resist the temptation to buy "tools I think I might need". Ahem. I'm really glad I got a wet'n'dry mains powered vac then bought a cheap cyclone part and DIY'd that in front of the vac. I can almost fill a 20 litre bucket with crud before anything of note makes it to the vacuum. Bulky but well worth it.
Have you ever used a dust separator / cyclone with your a shop vac? It will solve your capicity issue with your makitas and your expensive festool bags.
Love this video, thank you so much. Well I'm a DIYer, so spending that amount on tools is a no go for me. I work with 18v tools, I will upgrade once the tools I have go to the tool grave yard lol, and hubby says 'YES' to upgrading 😏. Thanks again for your informative videos. Stay safe
I buy off brand vacuum bags for my festool 26e, in China it cost about 2.5 USD per bag plus shipping. I feel it's the same quality just without festool's logo on it. Now, it doesn't break my heart when i dump the dusty bag away.
Makita is great stuff, I used their 9.6v NiCad stuff in the 80's and 90's. Could have gone either way, blue or red and happened on a deal for M18 gear so off to the races (piles of tools, have liked the Milwaukee gear enough that now I have lots of m12 as well). So? Just got into the Hilti Nuron platform, their gen2 22v with the entry level Hammer drill/driver. So far so good and I will be in transition for a while dunno if you can get your hands on the Hilti's but definitely well engineered and executed.
I dont mind the two battery tools. Price wise two 18v 5.0 is cheaper than one 40v, the weight is the same for the same AH as is size, charging is fine with all the double chargers they give out, Its just not a problem comparing to 40v, however you can use the 2.5ah 40v for half the weight but on somethin like a vac or miter saw you dont even hold, it just doesnt matter. With so many tools you are bound to have lots of batteries anyway. Its not perfect but I have no issues. Also, I got 18/36v vacs and minus that cheapo stick vac i used to have, the rest have had good suction. I had a different model than what you have tho. Don't get me wrong, the 40/80v system is great for the higher draw tools, pretty amazing stuff. They are just so expensive it doesnt make sense for someone already on the 18/36v to change up if they dont need those beefier tools regularly. If I did more heavy duty stuff then i can for sure see the value in 40v. Only tools they are really lacking in either system is the cordless table saw and 16ga and framing nailers. And the 1.5" (40mm) limit on the 18ga is sad. I had to go to Milwaulkee for those tools. Their 18 works perfectly and goes up to 2".
I laughed when Scott said it took him 3 months to realise the hedge trimmer handle rotates. I’ve got the same tool and took me around 12 months to figure out the same thing! Great trimmer btw.
I've been changing to Flex 40 volt system. I was a big Milwaukee fan for years but been having problem with the triggers on all of the drills. Milwaukee seems not to care when the triggers go bad. They want you to send them in pay for shipping both ways plus pay for the part and Labor. then you are with out your tool for about two weeks. Sorry for venting about Milwaukee they know they have a problem so they should have a recall on all of the bad triggers. I'm sure Makita will stand behind what they sell. I know Flex is standing behind what they sell. By the way I really like watching your videos. I like it when you show us mountains and that pretty blue water that you have.
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40V is very much being targeted at the professional / tradesman market, which keeps it out of reach for the majority of potential adopters.
Aside from the fact that 40V hasn't yet proliferated the market in South Africa, purchasing even a single 40V tool is an unappealing proposition due to the high cost of entry - particularly in terms of charger and batteries.
For context, at local pricing, 2x 40V 4Ah batteries and the single bay DC40RA charger will set one back around NZ$1000 - and then the core 40V brushless tools like impact driver, drills and saws will run anywhere from NZ$500-800 a piece.
Personally, as a strictly home-gamer DIY type, and being already quite deeply invested into the Makita 18V ecosystem over the course of the last 5 years (13x tools, 6x batteries), I doubt I'd make the switch to 40V anytime soon, if ever...
Frankly, unless you're A) a serious DIYer starting out from scratch in cordless power tools, or B) a tradie with a team and an ever-expanding arsenal of cordless tools, there's simply no real incentive to go the 40V route, which is a shame, because they're fantastic tools, packed with the latest technological developments.
Seriously
try using a karcher wet vac. suction is amazing, similar bag system to the festool, but the bags are cheap.
I’ve got a mixture between the 12v and 18v tools. I find the 12v tools works well for smaller projects as well as the tools are priced better
Bruh that battery on the impact driver looks like a car battery
How many amp hours is that battery? All of em….
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Stupidest thing I ever saw!
I’ve been using the festoon dust extractor for years and only on my second bag. Take a standard bag, cut across one bottom corner, roll this over 2 times and clamp with a couple of small spring clamps ( mine are 15 mm capacity paper clamps). Remove the clamps and empty the bag. Simple
I’m on the 18v Makita system (mostly due to your channel and Tools n Stuff) and I couldn’t be happier with it. I thought about diving into the 40v system, but it’s not widely available here in the US. Mostly just online. I currently run a festool kapex and a festool track saw, and I would love to get the 40v miter and track saw for my field work and leave the festool gear in the shop. We’ll see how that works out with my wallet. Lol.
Thanks, Scott! Always love your content and how you present information. Good luck on the house renovation!
SDC you are awesome. Thank you far all you do. I live in southwest Louisiana in the US and get so excited when you post a new video. Hey I’m 51 and have semi journeyman level carpentry experience (only for my projects) not my income. But every time I watch your videos I actually learn something. Plus I own all Makita, not 40v just yet, but within a year or two will start. Thanks again Scott!!!!
Bro I just randomly started watching because it popped up in my recommended and I recognized the hills in the background, low and behold you're based in Nelson. It's so cool to see a great channel from my hometown keep it up man
Interesting article. I suspect a pro like yourself needs that 40v platform to get through the day. At the moment I only have 1 tool, which you don’t seem to have. I have been doing reno in my house and bought an 18v drywall saw (DSD180z here in Canada). Its like a jigsaw but has a dust port and is designed to cut in either direction. Its the best investment of all my tools. I can remove whole sections of wall (or ceiling) if I need access and put the same piece back in the hole!
Bosch was one of the first with the lithium revolution. They launched 10.8v (12v max) and 36v (40v max). I bought their 36v stuff because it was the only corded performance available in cordless, but they basically abandoned it. Glad to see that Makita sees the value here.
*Kia ora Scott, Back in the early 1990's I brought myself a Makita 210 circular saw power driven & a Bosch CSB 550 RE hammer power drill. In 2023 they are both still going really strong after years of usage. Even after in 2021 I accidently cut thru the cord on the Makita. I pulled it apart and rewired it back up albeit now 1ft power cord shorter. I look after them well & they are not chucked around or abused. The saw still lives in its original cardboard box. I even built myself a one off Rimu suitcase with the polystyrene (with dovetails) to keep the drill & bits in. As back in the day they only came in the polystyrene & cardboard wraparound. But I have used a few battery driven tools.... just can not afford them.*
The Makita brad nailer rubber tip can be glued on with super glue. I do this with all my brad nailers. Just don't use more than a small dab of glue in case it needs to come off.
I have an arsenal of Makita 18 volt tools due to watching Scott’s channel. I even bought my wife the stick vac for the house. They are so smooth compared to my other tools.
Funny because I don't have one single Mikita tool but I like liked tools so I am always eager to watch your videos
For the festool vacuüm you can put a zipper on the dust bag. So you don't need to buy so many bags. Since it's mostly dust you're collecting.
Great video.
When I became a furniture, wardrobe, kitchen, contract installer in the eighties I bought all of the latest battery power tools, 7.2 and 9 volts.
They paid for themselves over and over again. They never failed me. They would still be used now in my retirement, but unfortunately, I had to throw them all away because the batteries became obsolete and never became cheaper to compensate for having to consider buying new 18-volt power tools.
Now retired, all my tools are Ozito, they have 5yr warranties and work well. I am reluctant to purchase any more as they are made in China. My grandson is heading to an age where conscription may become mandatory, therefore I do not wish to send hundreds of dollars for tools or tens of thousands of dollars to China by purchasing a battery vehicle. My vehicle for contracting was a Toyota and like Makita, it was excellent.
What's next? maybe electric power tools that receive their power from cordless mains power or electric vehicle. Wow! More power, no batteries, and charges. I wonder if one day you may have to throw away your 40-volt tools????
I really want the Makita 40v X-lock variable speed grinder. I have the 18v X-lock grinder but it doesn’t have variable speed which is in my opinion a requirement on a grinder. You can’t even use wire wheel attachments unless you have variable speed & you turn it down or else those metal bristles will become projectiles.
so just get one :D
I;vve. been known to reuse the festool bags, pull the dust out through the hole straight into a bin, not because of price (although they are expensive) more because I didn't have any on hand.
I have some 18v Makita battery tools and corded… have been very satisfied with them 🙂 I recently got the 40v pole saw and it’s just awesome very powerful for a battery pole saw and probably 95% of battery pole saws on the market. The 40v hand planner is a BEAST it’s an angry beaver on steroids 😄 it puts all other battery planners to sham with a 4 mm depth of cut and doesn’t want to bog down .
I'm very much looking forward to upcoming deck build, it should be a masterclass. I enjoy building them too, but that's because the tolerances suit my style of woodwork!
That battery on the rattler makes it look like a comedy drill! 🤣
I love my 40v tools. I also have an entire truck load of milwaukee tools, as well as handfuls of festool. But the 40v miter saw has been a game changer. As well as the "beam saw" and the rear handle "worm drive" style saw. Cuts so effortlessly. I feel like I want to get rid of my TSC55 and replace it with the makita track saw. I've had to replace 4 festool batteries so far. So the ONE battery sounds really nice.
Do it. I bought the corded festool years ago but for what it did it it was too expensive.
First had the Makita 36V and now the 40V. Ridiculously powerful.
Love my Hikoki MultiVolt tools, where you can use same battery to all the tools, be it 18v or 36v. And the tools fits my hand quite nice.
They make some great tools
Feels good in the hand!
Great video Scott...keep them coming. I bought the Makita 40V 216mm Slide Compound Saw LS002GZ. What a great saw. I was going to buy the 40V AWS vacuum, but I purchased the Festool Midi vacuum and hooked up the Bluetooth remote. I'm thinking of only buying a handful of tools on the 40V platform. I'm still waiting on the Makita XGT 40V 165mm circular saw that you stopped at 9:57 in your last video. 😢😢
I work in a small building company and run 18v makita, milwaukee and festool. Its too expensive to upgrade to the 40v system for the gain.
As many other commenters have mentioned, Makita tools might not be the most powerful, have flashy marketing or even apply to every meathead alpha male out there, when it comes to balance, longevity and reliability, there is no other.
As a former Milwaukee, Hilti, Dewalt, Fes, and Bosch user, I can say that Mikita will always be my favored brand. I have mostly LXT stuff, but I’m slowly adding to my XGT collection.
If you REALLY look at what you need on a job site and aren’t influenced by the guy working next to you, bragging about how his new impact driver as a billion ft-lbs of torque, you’ll understand that balance means comfort and comfort while working…means happiness.
Great video! New subscriber.
as a retired furniture maker i don't really care if my tools are wired as i have plenty of points handy for that. however, as i have been restoring a 1921 400sm two story home with to many rimu features to mention i can understand why builders want cordless. i don't have a mitre saw as i never really needed one for work. however, i have beeen tempted a few times when having to make trips backwards and forwards to the garage. maybe when i replace the decking as the slats are on a 45' angle. so every single end needs a mitre cut.
I started off with makita corded but switched to dewalt about 9 years ago. However, I still use/purchase makita tools, their gib screw gun is fantastic and the 40v tracksaw is the mutts nuts
Here in south africa we don't even have the 40v system yet. Just have the basic 18v tools
That Auger is amazing!
I'm glad to hear your thoughts on the Makita cordless extractors and see that format of the bag and filter (which doesn't seem great). I have an older (and larger) corded version that I absolutely love that is super quiet for the amount of suction it has (rivaling the Festool) and might have bought one had I not seen this. I think for my next vac (building a detached garage currently so I'll need one) I'm going to bite the bullet and get the Festool and dust cyclone.
Recently replaced my main chop (miter) saw with a Makita 40v 8-1/4" saw. That is one of the nicest saws I've ever used tbh
You should do a 18v video with the newest tools you have gotten.
I have a 40v grinder, a drill and a router. Once i was grinding and the tool stopped working and I was like hu? What’s this, oh! I almost forgot it could have a flat battery. You also don’t feel almost any loss in power until it’s flat
I have the Dewalt 20vMAX Impact and drill set. And it seems they aren't as good as they used to be. This battery system seems much better
I have a few of the 40v tools really wish they would update there nail guns..
my whole set from 18V switch to 40V.. now waiting the latest 40v Mixer
It would be great to hear a breakdown of makita/festool vs cheaper DIY targeted brands like Ryobi/Ozito.
Nothing wrong with Ryobi brand.. I have the one range and beginning to replace the standard 18v brushless with one HP.
You now will notice other brands following them with garden and car line types. Still got all my original tools from 5 years ago and they've been on sites dropped or covered in crap, and if kept in good condition will last.
Others have come to me for my tools when their own yellow, red or blue brands are broken or damaged. Moral of this is to look after them!
Using it for 1,5 years and it's great
I love when you say they give me this they got me that but still... you have balls to say something negative about them 😬
They need to emprove 👍
Never used makita much. I’ve had the corded grinder for years for tile.
Any tool producer shoud be able to multivolt their tools, given 18 was the main std 18/36/54v multivolt batteries are easy. a 54v 4ah battery is a 18v 12ah
Had Makita for last 30 years, like the 40V but love the 18V more!! Can’t stand the size of 40V batteries be good if they made a drop saw that allows either batteries and an option or adaptor to plug into power
air blower i think is good inside renovating in hot day while working
Love the vids dude. Rather insightful. I've just come into a situation where I need to set myself up with some good battery hand tools, and I like the look of the Makita brand, I have used Milwaukee and liked it. Although, what I really do wonder is, staying with the 18V series, what would you choose if money wasn't the issue?, like what brand do you find had the best skins, and how do you find the after service? I didn't know that drills had a service schedule until recently!
Im using 3 x 18v never had any problems working a day.
I think that fan is the best tool that I see that Makita has, because it oscillates. That would be awesome for drying drywall compound or paint. I’m on a different battery platform so the Makita 40 V doesn’t appeal to me. I actually just bought a Makita 40 V track saw, but I sold it because it didn’t come with the battery, And I’m just gonna wait for the Ridgid one.
I love my Makitr tracksaw
I was wanting to buy some 40v stuff for work but not interested in a sponsored review
I started with the makita 12v.... Then I got the first 40v....now, after moving to the US, 12 and 40 are not common and don't have all tools, for example no sander...
Festool also has a cyclone separator systainer.
What kind of diamond encrusted festool bags are you using bro? Here in the states a pack of 5 genuine festool CT bags is $30 and the long life bag is $120. Even with the USD to NZD conversion that’s only like $45 for a the bags and $180 for the long life bag
the only reason i have not upgraded to 40v, is that my 18v gear still works fine and the cost of these new 40v tools just puts me off, in the UK our wages as joiners hasnt gone up at all in 25 years!!!! So until we see a big improvement in wages i wont be buying any of the 40v gear
Dear Scott have u considered a cyclone extractor for your workshop? I built one for my workshop and never uses a vacuum bag vor 4 years now
Scott - do you have plastic mounting feet under your heat pump outdoor unit? If not, you may be risking the condensate drain blocking up causing the bottom of the unit to rust over time.
Wet timber !!!
Thats what i wanted to hear about tbh ... im stuck betweem flexvolt or makita 40v, im from Ireland so timber is wet 10 r 11 months of the year an that being th most important factor for me is how it cuts wet timber ... weather it be a fence board or a 6x6 wooden post this is vital in my choice an the fellow we are subbed into has a flex 8 1/2 an its a pure beast it never bogged out 1ce... an its was a wet mulsh she was shootin out so i was proper wet not this damp shit but i was litterally forcing it thru a diagonal grain cut butt.... it had a 9 amp on her an he says its a beast with a 9+
I challenge you too built your whole deck just using that huge battery only
My co workers 40v gear always craps out (especially his impact)
Did you think that you had broken the handle of the hedge trimmer when it first turned on your hand? It is the sort of thing that would happen to me 😅
hey scot i use alot makita, but by the multitool i bought a fein 700 top accu , what a re u thoughts about feins ?
Lol my dad has the same old makita jig saw, its pretty crappy imo tho, no longer holds a blade properly
I love Makita but don't have money to buy the 40 volt tool or I would
Though you were wheeling them to to curb, free finds.😂😂
Is it better having more voltage, Or,more Amps ,when your buying a battery,,or does it not make a difference,,🤔🏴🤔🏴
very good and interesting video
Hearing this man talk about his “deck” makes me realize I am a very, very childish person.
This saw ruclips.net/user/postUgkx84IcU5pbZd1Qrz8u4-YRLmJax7kdRi7B comes in handy in many ways. When I had a small (dead) tree fall I started the process of disposal by using this saw and cutting off the small branches. Then slowly work on the small trunk with undercutting and letting it fall down. With many trees on acres of land paying for a tree service can be expensive. It also is nice in that it can be used in hard to get areas like along my creek. It's also safer and quieter than a chainsaw. It obviously can't cut down massive trees but it does work fine for small ones or brush. And of course since I already own a Black
nice s p a m post... how much did you pay for those likes?
Jesus 600 new Zealand dollars?!? That's like $380 USD. Why is it so much more over there?! It's like $200 in the US
Been waiting for you to do this video since you got your first 40v tool. Thank you! Still on the 18v myself. 17 tools and 11 batteries later, all still have never let me down! Team Makita!
I use makita at home, have 18v & 40v. I use Milwaukee at work because I get it cheap through my work deals. The Makita tools always end up coming out to save the day every time I fry a fuel rattle gun, grinder, drill or impact, which is regularly
Is Fake everything.
I've been using 18v Makita for >5 years. Love them.
Here here still on 18v 19 tools and 35 batteries and it's still the best I just can't warrant paying that much more when it don't seem that much better.
Still on the the 18/36v platform. I don't find it an issue if some of my tools take 2 batteries as I have lots 18 voltage batteries. Love the posts 👍
That's the problem you have to have alot of battery's but if you already have them. it's just more battery's to keep track of and charge
Another good video Scott, keep it up! I'm on the 18v platform and it serves me well. That dropsaw does look tempting though, and using a tracksaw with one battery seems convenient.
I only have the tracksaw on 40v. Everything else I have is 18v. The 40v track saw is fantastic. It's low profile with only one battery, relatively light (I run a 4 amp hour battery on it) and I generaly only recharge every 2 days-ish.
I literally just bought the dropsaw three days ago, my first 40v item. It's an absolute beast, so small profile but powerful and accurate, big recommend
Scott thankyou for being Makita loyal, seems like everyone is on the Milwaukee train and its nice to see someone on our side. 😁
For your miter station, you should install a dust separator. Much easier to use and maintain than those vacuum bags. I use inexpensive Dustopper ones that fit on a bucket. Even made a mobile one that I use in the field, and as my main shop vacuum for cleaning up the workshop. If I added a strong enough cordless vacuum to it, it would be even better.
Scott - You have to do a video on a Dust Separator. A little science mixed with building 🙄
You should make a vid showing what you mean.. ; )
Id like to see it in action
I made one in 10mins with a cheap plastic cyclone and a mitre10 bucket and a bit on sealant. Works a charm with my cheap as karacher shop vac. Saves the filter and don't use bags at all. $40 i think. Planning an upgrade to my dust extraction in my home workshop and will build a bigger one from scratch
In the field you reckon hahaha wtf
I’m completely in to cordless festool. I had a decision either festool or makita. Sorry for me the festool wins but I do miss makita in some way for the power in some tools. I still have the first gen cordless planer I got a adapter from eBay which works fine and the 18v makita cordless router I also love for my hinge jig. Festool for me just has them little things which makes it easy and whatever job you do it looks great. Price isn’t that far apart compared to makita 40v.
I have a TON of 18v makita tools. I love them.
But, when I recently got an earth auger, and the dust extractor, and the couple shaft power head, they were all 40v because those are pretty edge case use tools, and it's not a big deal being on a (slightly) different platform. So those were my entry into the XGT line.
Now, I'll probably lean towards XGT going forward, but I have way too many tools to bother trying to fully convert now.
Hey Scott, I have a suggestion for you. Set up a cyclone dust separator! I put together a 5-gallon-bucket with a dust separator years ago, but I'm just a DIY guy who does small renovation jobs on my own house. I tend to work in short bursts when I have a couple hours here and there. Therefore, I don't make lots of cuts at once, and I don't need a high-capacity dust extractor or dust separator.
The best thing about setting up a dust cyclone dust separator is that it's a lot easier to clean it out than it is to blow the sawdust out of the filter in your shop vac. If you set up a dust cyclone with either your Makita or Festool vacuums, you would probably cut down on the number of times that you'll have to clean out your vacuums by 90%. You'll save money on bags and filters too.
I actually just use a small Makita 199553-5. It's designed as an attachment for Makita's upright vacuums, but it's just a small dust cyclone with an input port and an output port. I made a little holder for it. I clamp it to the end of my workbench, I run a hose from the separator to my vac, and then I run a hose to my tool. I use it with my miter saw, jobsite table saw, and various Makita circular saws that have dust ports. If I'm using it with my table saw to rip long boards, I'll have to empty it after just 1 or 2 long rips, but it just takes me a second to empty it. Like you, I prefer working outside when the weather is nice. I like that this dust separator is tiny, lightweight and portable. I'll bring my job-site table saw or miter saw out to my yard, bring out my vacuum-powered shop vac (mine is a Milwaukee, and it's also just OK), and bring out an extra 5-gallon bucket. It takes me 10 seconds to empty the dust separator into the bucket and then hook up the hoses again. I think dump all the saw dust in with my compost.
Since you do bigger jobs than I do, you would probably want a dust separator that fits on top of a 5-gallon bucket. For your miter saw + circular saws, I think you'd want to stick with small-diameter hoses to maximize suction power. Bigger hoses and fittings work better for a circular saw or table-top router when you're generating a ton of dust.
I don't have Makita 40V tools. I have Milwaukee 12v + 18V as well as Makita 18V. If I got Makita 40V tools, I would probably still use my Makita 18V subcompact drill (love it) and my Milwaukee 12V surge oil-based impact driver because this impact driver is the quietest one on the market, it's super compact, and it has way more torque than I need for driving 95% of the screws that I use. I also love my small Makita 18V saws -- I have one that's blade-left and another that's blade-right. If I'm cutting 2x4s, I prefer to use a smaller circular saw. I have a bigger hammer drill that I use when I need to drill into concrete or thick steel, but 95% of my drilling is just into wood, and for that, the 18V Makita subcompact has plenty of power. When I'm working up on high ladders or on my roof, I hate lugging around heavy tools.
Totally agree about cyclone dust collector
Dust collectors are probably a good idea if you're set up in a workshop. But when you're on the road, it is just another clumsy piece of equipment to drag in and out of your van every day.
@@kiwigrunt330 I agree and disagree. If I were working out on a grass lawn cutting a bunch of dimensional lumber, I think it would be fine to just let the sawdust go on the grass.
If you have to work inside because it's freezing cold outside (I live in Chicago, and it's about -10 celcius outside right now) or it's raining, if you don't collect the dust when you're cutting wood, you have to eventually clean it up later. You also have to breath in more sawdust as you work, which sucks.
I think people don't realize that you can get tiny dust cyclones. Look at Makita's little dust cyclone attachment for their floor vacuums. It's designed to hook up to Makita's upright shop vacs, but you can just hook up 2 hoses to it and use it as a dust cyclone with any tool that has a dust port and takes a hose. This little dust cyclone is about the size of Makita's battery-powered blowers. It's small. I think it may weigh about 250 grams.
When I use it with my circular saw or miter saw, I can make maybe to 30 cuts before it fills up and I have to empty it. I think the capacity is maybe 500 mL. I would personally collect 500mL of sawdust in my little portable cyclone that I can empty in 15 seconds rather than vacuum up 500 mL of sawdust that gets all over a room. For me, when I collect it in my cyclone, I can use my vacuum for an entire week before I need to empty out my vac and clean out its filter. Otherwise, the filter of my vac clogs up quite quickly, and the vac loses a little suction, which collects less dust as I make cuts.
@@clutteredchicagogarage2720 It is the makita 194175-6
@@MichaelDreksler The one that I use is sold on Amazon USA as “Makita 199553-5 Cyclonic Vacuum Attachment”. It is a small dust cyclone that attaches to upright makita cordless vacuums. That’s not how i use it. I made a little bracket for it out of some scrap plywood. I clamp it to the side of my sawhorse. I run a hose from my tool to the top port and another hose from my shop vac to the bottom port. It captures almost all the dust and shavings from my saws or router. It has no filter bag or anything else that gets clogged up. I just have to periodically undo the hoses, open the top, and dump it out into my larger dust bucket. This saves me from cleaning or replacing the filters or bags in my shop vacs. There are other dust cyclones on the market, but I like this one because it’s small, quick to empty, and the hose ports are small and work well with small-diameter hoses that fit hand-powered cordless tools like circular saws, track saws, and trim routers. I also use it with my miter saw and jobsite table saw. For table saws, I think you generally need a bigger cyclone, bigger hoses, and a powerful vacuum to capture most of the dust. With this small rig, i may only get like 70% of the dust from my table saw. For me, It’s still better than no dust collection or quickly clogging up my vacuum with loads of dust.
Rumour has it that impact driver is responsible for rotating the earth around the sun
I have the 2x18V track saw and reciprocating saw that look identical with yours. I love them. This way, i don't need both 18V and 40V batteries (or just the hilariously expensive 40V ones for everything). I'll take having a couple extra 18V packs over having to keep two sizes of packs going. Mostly a question of price, i guess.
They ain’t they bad $ 2.5ah. You get what you pay for.
40v 2.5ah = 18v 5ah
Just get the 18v/40v. ADAPTER and your set it’s 25$ and you can use 18v set up’s on 40v xtg
Years ago, I found your channel as a good source of 18V reviews and bought multiple tools and garden equipment using that platform. Great to see them still investing in that as well. Thanks for sharing, as always. Hope your loved ones are safe in the north island.
I'm in with the 18v..... since 2004.....sticking with it
I bought the 40v drop/mitre saw after seeing you use it, and doing some research, The vertical handle is absolutely the way to go, way more accurate than my old rigid horizontal handle saw...
Do you think the orientation of the handle effects the accuracy of the saw ?
@@jordybowen I don’t think so.
@@AshHalls neither do I having used both extensively. It seems as though the commenter is eluding to that fact however. I actually think the horizontal handle leans better towards actual body mechanics of how our wrist is designed to move.
I'm heavily invested in the 18v system and while there's some 40v tools that really tickle my fancy (the drop saw and tracksaw mainly), the cost to switch is what holds me off
Yeah me too...i own the corded Makita track saw......drop saw...and vacuum ... don't plan to switch to battery since its $$$ and i don't see the need since the tools still fit what i need. I use the 18v system for all my other Makita needs....i'm waiting for the battery technology to get smaller and lighter before i switch to anything bigger than the 18v batteries.
@@ck7cu yes, my thought exactly, I used 18v stuff and only had a 240v dropsaw and concrete drill in Aussie when I worked there , they were the only tools that I needed more than what the 18v could deliver. The only problem I found with 240v stuff was you had to run a lead and all 240v stuff need an elect safety cert every 6 months to use on commercial building sites that ended up being costly and inconvenient, 18v was good enough .....
I've got every 18v tool imaginable... but I bought the 40v mitre saw which came with a charger, 4.0 battery and a stand for $1300.
I only have the 1 battery BUT it lasts a full day of cutting and charges in 30 mins or less so you really don't need to swap platforms to get some of the tools
5:55 that's the best tool you have. These days we have a lot more models of corded/cordless tools, but they are not made to last 40 years. I have a big Bosch demolition hammer, my grandfather bought it new in early 80's, then passed it to my father and I'm now using it. Neither of them were able to burn it and I think it will outlast me also!
Stick to the cheapos eduardo
I actually agree but people want convenience, not a potential hazard in the way that they have to set up every morning and afternoon
Hi Scott,
Im pretty sure you can get paperbags for the makita vacuums.
I have the 2x18v and the bags for it are on sale here, here being the Netherlands. On the other hand I do understand the runtime problem, but since I have plenty of batteries I don't really mind.
Hey Scott, Festool sells cyclones in a Systainer. Maybe that helps with the Makita dust issue.
Regards,
Etna.
Nothing works as good as a gifted tool lol 🔧
I just bought the same mitre saw you showed in this vid, its the nicest tool i own, i think makita is calling me away from my Dewalt kit.
If Makita NZ cares at all about how Makita Switzerland is doing, they can keep giving you tools without remorse, because your videos led me to battery powered tools in general and Makitas XGT series in particular. All the tools I got so far are awesome and even if I almost never need to travel with them, having no cord is a blessing in my tiny workshop. Another advantage is the compatibility with the garden tools. I would never have considered a cordless hedge trimmer or lawn mower without a compatible interface to my other tools and feeling reassured there is enough umpf in the battery.
I have been very happy with my 40v Makita tools. I have bought almost all of mine off ebay and gotten some really good deals. The deepcut bandsaw is great if you cut much metal, especially 3 to 5 inch ductwork for extraction fans and clothes driers. My newest and next to try out is the 40v sds-max hammer drill!
I'm still building up my 18v collection and already feel like I might be about to fall behind, with so much 40v kit now available. But good to see you still use some 18v tools.
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing you use that drill! 😄
I just started my 18V collection, and will continue using 18V for most smaller tools, but it looks like the larger ones would be better in 40V.
I used to use Dewalt 10+ yrs ago but once i got my hands on a Makita impact driver i never went back. I am sure a lot of brands are good now, I'm just partial to the Makita because it was a far better than other options back then. I use mine for metal roofing installations. Really enjoying the content :)
That's really interesting. I started with DeWalt 20v and have used other people's Makitas, Milwaukees, Bosches and other here and there. Every time I wished I had my DeWalts. I'm not a brand fanboy by any stretch but all the others have just been sooo meh. My buddy is an electrician and loves his Milwaukees, another friend swears by Makita. I guess it's all in how the tools fit your hands.
Also, i just picked up the Milwaukee cordless track saw to (potentially) replace my corded Makita one. So far it's been great.
My experience is electricians prefer Milwaukee. Woodworkers Makita. Dewalt seems to be a mix of both. I’ve never seen a Bosche in the wild.
@@scotchbarrel3371 I also have a Milwaukee but it's quite heavy so it 's at home for the projects around the house. Never really use it much i just think it is too heavy... granted it is a 6 yrs old and i am sure lighter models are available.
I also use those battery holders, but after 1 week I had to take them all off and turn them upside down so the batteries slide up into them rather than down. That way you can check charge level without having to take the battery out. Much happier now….it’s the simple things haha
I cant say im not jealous of you and your tools. Been a long time follower and really appreciate the work you have put into the channel, you deserve all the endorsement you can get.
I watch you and Tools'n'Stuff, but try to resist the temptation to buy "tools I think I might need". Ahem.
I'm really glad I got a wet'n'dry mains powered vac then bought a cheap cyclone part and DIY'd that in front of the vac. I can almost fill a 20 litre bucket with crud before anything of note makes it to the vacuum. Bulky but well worth it.
I also have a lot of Miakita 18-36v tools. So switching to 40-8-v is unrealistic. Maybe there would be a transitional series that uses both systems.
I also have a lot of Miakita 18-36v tools. So switching to 40-8-v is unrealistic. Maybe there would be a transitional series that uses both systems.
Have you ever used a dust separator / cyclone with your a shop vac? It will solve your capicity issue with your makitas and your expensive festool bags.
Love this video, thank you so much.
Well I'm a DIYer, so spending that amount on tools is a no go for me. I work with 18v tools, I will upgrade once the tools I have go to the tool grave yard lol, and hubby says 'YES' to upgrading 😏. Thanks again for your informative videos. Stay safe
I buy off brand vacuum bags for my festool 26e, in China it cost about 2.5 USD per bag plus shipping. I feel it's the same quality just without festool's logo on it. Now, it doesn't break my heart when i dump the dusty bag away.
"Pretty much...I need all of them." - S.B. on "all" of his tools.
Makita is great stuff, I used their 9.6v NiCad stuff in the 80's and 90's. Could have gone either way, blue or red and happened on a deal for M18 gear so off to the races (piles of tools, have liked the Milwaukee gear enough that now I have lots of m12 as well). So? Just got into the Hilti Nuron platform, their gen2 22v with the entry level Hammer drill/driver. So far so good and I will be in transition for a while dunno if you can get your hands on the Hilti's but definitely well engineered and executed.
I dont mind the two battery tools. Price wise two 18v 5.0 is cheaper than one 40v, the weight is the same for the same AH as is size, charging is fine with all the double chargers they give out, Its just not a problem comparing to 40v, however you can use the 2.5ah 40v for half the weight but on somethin like a vac or miter saw you dont even hold, it just doesnt matter. With so many tools you are bound to have lots of batteries anyway. Its not perfect but I have no issues. Also, I got 18/36v vacs and minus that cheapo stick vac i used to have, the rest have had good suction. I had a different model than what you have tho. Don't get me wrong, the 40/80v system is great for the higher draw tools, pretty amazing stuff. They are just so expensive it doesnt make sense for someone already on the 18/36v to change up if they dont need those beefier tools regularly. If I did more heavy duty stuff then i can for sure see the value in 40v. Only tools they are really lacking in either system is the cordless table saw and 16ga and framing nailers. And the 1.5" (40mm) limit on the 18ga is sad. I had to go to Milwaulkee for those tools. Their 18 works perfectly and goes up to 2".
Crazzzzy.. In middle of updating my 36 volts.. Main reason 2 batteries..
I laughed when Scott said it took him 3 months to realise the hedge trimmer handle rotates. I’ve got the same tool and took me around 12 months to figure out the same thing! Great trimmer btw.
I've been changing to Flex 40 volt system. I was a big Milwaukee fan for years but been having problem with the triggers on all of the drills. Milwaukee seems not to care when the triggers go bad. They want you to send them in pay for shipping both ways plus pay for the part and Labor. then you are with out your tool for about two weeks. Sorry for venting about Milwaukee they know they have a problem so they should have a recall on all of the bad triggers. I'm sure Makita will stand behind what they sell. I know Flex is standing behind what they sell. By the way I really like watching your videos. I like it when you show us mountains and that pretty blue water that you have.