Best Angle Grinder? Milwaukee vs DeWalt, Makita, Ryobi, Craftsman, Ridgid, Bosch, Metabo HPT Workpro
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2022
- Angle Grinder Brands: Knockoff Makita vs Makita, Milwaukee, Dewalt, Ryobi, Bosch, Craftsman, Ridgid, Metabo HPT, Workpro. Grinder performance compared cutting through ½ inch rebar with 5 pounds of pressure. Tool power/torque compared using a grinding disc with incremental increases in pressure up to 20 pounds. I purchased all of the angle grinders to ensure a fair and unbiased review. So, thanks for supporting the channel!
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Let's be honest. A lot of us watching these just in hopes that the tools we own don't actually suck. Love the content!
True. I bought a Milwaukee grinder recently (although not this model) so happy to see them come out on top!
I was actually just telling my wife this lmao
A lot of these videos I watch just to see what sort of test apparatus he builds.
lol. Great point! I've discovered that some of the tools I've purchased in the past aren't too impressive.
@@ProjectFarm Thanks to you, I have a few losers. Thanks for what you do for us.
One thing I'd like to see is the cheapest and most expensive tools within the brands too. Like DeWalt XR and non XR. See where each of them fall in the lineup.
Thank you for the video idea!
definitely some mystery about all the acronyms out there that companies try to upsell you with. Would be particularly interested in seeing a comparison of performance and durability of brushed versus brushless.
They also have a flexvolr grinder, I'm sure that would win for dewalt
Don't buy any knock off product. It's all stolen technology by a CCP company and you're only encouraging their illegal behavior because you're being cheap.
@@andysanchez5457 yes he should’ve tested the flex volt grinder it would’ve won
This man right here puts an insane amount of work in his videos and testing. Amazing.
Thanks for watching!
Surely, I don't see how, he can make the content he does if not!
It's called meth 😂
Todd, you deserve so much credit for the editing and narration of these videos. It's like someone challenged you to make a video that only showed what absolutely mattered and nothing more. You cram so much valuable insight and entertainment into your videos and most of us don't even realise because we're glued to the screen. You should be giving lectures to Corporations on 'How to present what actually matters'. Kudos mate!
Thanks so much!
My favorite part of farm is the inventive fixtures he makes. It's amazing how much work he does behind the scenes to take the human factor out. Thank you. I'd actually be interested in a video going over your favorite test equipment and how you made it.
Thanks and you are welcome!
@@ProjectFarm wow you replied! Very impressive
@@1989Chrisc Todd is very attentive to comments on his videos. Almost as when he does testing....and indeed, very impressive.
@@1989Chrisc lol nice
Sad, thought you will use real metabo hd made in germany. off course price is about 400 dollars....
I just want to say, vibration is such an underrated consideration with tools and I’m glad you include it. High vibration tools can wreck your forearms and elbows and spending a bit more to avoid that can save you a ton of money and pain in terms of PT. Source: in PT for elbow issues caused by a demo project last year.
I agree. Vibration fatigue is not good.
I feel you. Had CPT in both my wrists for awhile from an on-the-job injury. Ibuprofen and wearing wrist-braces nightly made it go away after a year.
heh put you on the 90# jackhammer and see how you do. Those things are all about get wrecked. I used to work for a contractor that had a hospital grade jackhammer though. It was nice. Yeah hospital grade jackhammers are a thing. If you work at a hospital they insist that you use one.
@@jake9705 I had both my wrists operated on due to CPS. It wasn’t nice.
I experienced this with the 60V DeWalt reciprocating saw. A vibration monster! I sold it and got the M18, no comparison, M18 is way superior.
I love the way that a lot of tool reviewers now reference your channel as a standard , awesome work !!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Idea: Use the laser RPM meter to measure RPM under load when cutting, it would be interesting to see how close some of these grinders came to stalling
Thanks for the suggestion.
I know what it takes to make a video like this, and I want to bring attention to how concise your edits are. No extra fluff or nonsense, right to the info, right to the point. Great video, very scientific and compelling. Thank you for all your efforts, they do make a difference.
Thanks and you are welcome!
totally agree ,lots of time to produce these tests and money too!
Absolutely! Always love the honesty and contents.
I've watched every video on this channel for the last 4 years. I'm not even sure why. Most of the things reviewed are not things I intend to buy, but for some reason it's kinda relaxing and fun to watch PF methodically test a bunch of stuff. Thanks for the great videos!
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
>watched every video
>not even sure why
I'm pretty sure that's all of us brother 😂
Great job with the tests. They way they were performed I felt kept them fair, accurate, and repeatable. Thank you
Thanks and you are welcome!
Thanks for the video! I enjoyed reading people's comments and vibration issues! I'm sold on Milwaukee's power and vibration control!
Thanks Todd!
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
Every time I watch Project Farm I'm blown away by the test setup's that are prepared. This channel is second to NONE!!!
Thank you!
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I LOVE your testing techniques on this one. Great job as always.
Thanks!
Buy Milwaukee and you'll never be disappointed!
Love love your tool comparison. I use you demonstration to purchase a-lot of my power tools. Thank you.
Great video. You put a lot of work into these tests. Thank you.
Every time you upload a new video, I wonder what cool testing jig I'm going to see. :-) Great job as always!
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm Would you make a video about your purchases both good and bad? I mean quality or value/money. Thanks for another great review!
I love that you added in the vibration testing. It's an often overlooked fatigue and joint stress factor that greatly factors into the overall workability of a tool.
Thanks!
@Milwaukee Mac Repair grease it up but I wouldn't be surprised if it was just the brake engaging
Testify!
I could tell when he introduced the tools in the beginning of the video how smooth sounding the motor and gear box were on the Rigid. That's one area DeWalt could really step up their game on.
But it was also a little bit unfair. E. g. for the Bosch an anti vibration handle is available, too. This would of course raise the price but if I want less vibrations, I could reduce it.
And it also depends on the disc you are using, there are also low vibration discs out there.
Great video! As always Fantastic info and we'll thought out types of testing! I appreciate it very much. Your in depth videos save us money, time and headaches in projects and work!!! Thank you much🥰🙌🥰
Thanks and you are welcome!
You have the best thorough test videos! Love them, and thank you!
Thanks so much!
I watch a lot of different RUclips channels, and this channel is by far the most comprehensive, most thorough, most unbiased and most informative I've seen. Todd really puts a lot of time and work into his content and doesn't cut corners.
Nothing but respect for this man and his work.
Agreed.!
I would second this!
Thanks so much!
He's the best! No potty mouth, no extraneous commentary to show how smart he is or blathering on just to hear his own voice. (Like some channels I won't mention).
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Makita stopping in less than 1 second is definitely a great safety feature and time saver. Surprised more don't have brakes like that. Also surprising how well a knockoff Makita did here!
Thanks for the feedback.
Makita is best
@@peeayetee2945 on price point Makita represents poor value.
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Awesome test rigs! Love the fact you include vibration now. I have damaged my hands in the past by way of tool vibration. It's overlooked by nearly everyone. A 9" cordless grinder comparison would be great! Original Metabo (not hpt), Milwaukee, AEG and Makita have them now. I have a Milwaukee and a Metabo but the difference between the two is huge. Would be good to see them all head to head 👍
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
We've been using one of the Milwaukee grinders for a couple of years on a fabrication project, and it has been very impressive. Just ordered a second grinder so we won't have to change disks between grinding and cutting.
Thanks for sharing!
Your videos never fail to impress me. You’re my “go-to” whenever I’m in the market for a new or replacement tool, etc.
Thanks so much for these in-depth practical reviews! They outshine the spec/marketing only reviews by a long shot!
You are welcome!
This is the very channel that introduced this British bloke to rather excellent Irwin tools!
Well usually he is great, but he botched this test, since he mix 115mm grinders with 125mm.
@@ProjectFarmtattoo not allowed
Needed a new one for fixing rust on one of my cars, so this was perfectly timed! Thanks again!
Nice! Glad to help!
You should consider the M12 right angle die grinder for that task. Or the Ryobi if you're in that line/if you want one for less.
Another great video and great in depth testing! Keep'em coming, sir!!!
Thanks, will do!
Love the videos really helps in my purchases. I come here first to see if there's a video to get a practical idea of what I should by based on price and performance keep it up
Thanks, will do!
Perfect timing. Been thinking about a grinder and wasn't sure if I wanted to extend my current Ridgid platform with their option. Ridgid, at least in this tool choice, looks like a solid buy. I really enjoy your testing setups, to the point but not overly complicated. Thank you!
Rigid I believe are known as AEG here in Australia and from personal experience are the best power tools for the money that I have used
Get a 5" corded makita. Industry standard, can't go wrong with the best grinder on the market and $150 isn't too bad
I’ve had the ridgid for a few months now, and it has actually exceeded my expectations. Been really happy with it
Thanks and you are welcome! Glad to hear!
I was actually just commenting about this too! Ridgid I feel that their performance to price point value is very high! I never owned one, but all the tests I've seen Project Farm do with them, they always perform very well, and never costing the price of a kidney to purchase. If I didn't have my Milwaukee setup currently, I'd definitely have gotten myself into the Ridgid game. Something about DeWalt I don't want their tool lines. I like their tool bits, and stuff, just not power tools.
With all the stress of the world, your videos help me forget them for a bit. Thank you.
Awesome and thank you! Glad to be a source of positivity!!
You make the best reviews by far. Fair and honest. You've saved me a lot of time and money. Thanks for your content.
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
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I'm heavily invested in DeWalt battery platform, so I was going to get a DeWalt anyway. I tried the 60v (flexvolt) battery in it, and all I can say is wheeee! Big difference! We need to lobby for a universal battery configuration so we can try different tool brands!
The actual flexvolt grinder is an absolute beast and I recommend the new power stack batteries they are awesome big power output in a smaller battery
There is a cross platform battery system call CAS (Cordless Alliance System). It uses real Metabo (not HPT) batteries.
Leave it to EU...
Yeah should have had the flex volt grinder in this compassion.
That is a good point, battery is often the difference. I have various OEM and knockoff batteries for RYOBI. Some of the knockoffs are useless for anything but light work, some are OK, none are as good as the OEM.
Great test as always. The title needs to include “Cordless”. I want to see a corded angle grinder test, including the $15 Harbor Freight “Drillmaster” angle grinder.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
The drill master is a great little grinder its only 4 amps so you can’t even put 5lbs of pressure. It took almost 15 minutes maybe more to cut a 3ft long piece of 1/4in steel if you let the tool do the work it will last just about forever bought one in 2016 still works great
@@Redline2442 I also bought into those cheap no name grinders, they aren't amazing but I have 3 of them and if one fails, I can plug in the next. Also it's a cheap way to get the convenience of not having to constantly change between different types discs, these grinders are adequate for anything short of cutting (the instructions might even say to not use them for that purpose)
The $15 harbor freight grinder is junk, but the $35 one is pretty decent. It lasted me all through welding school and well into my welding career until it finally burned up while a co-worker was borrowing it. Probably just needed new brushes, but I already had two Bosch grinders and an American-made DeWalt grinder, so I just started keeping the DeWalt in my bag. By far my favorite corded grinder.
If you wish to keep all your extremities leave the 15 dollar one alone. I’ve had not one but two fail the same way and both times I sat there and just stared for a few minutes wondering how I walked away
Great video! I just bought a DeWalt and I’m happy so see it was one of the top angle grinders in your test. As always congrats on such a great test set up!
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
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Best reviews on the web, and your test jigs are incredible, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks and you are welcome!
As a tile guy this comparison is extremely applicable to my life. Thanks as always my friend :) I currently use a Milwaukee for all of my tile needs. And have had the same grinder for 5 years now still runs great!
That's got to be some kind of longevity record! Brushless? 🤔
I haven't upgraded the M18 sawzall to the brushless, it's 7ish years old, battered and ugly, but still works. I thought it needed replaced 2 years ago, got new batteries, runs like a champ. The one hander does look convenient....next Christmas sale. Lol
I do roofing and have gone through 6 of the 2780 models. Using these to cut clay and concrete tiles They dont do well with the dust. Same failure everytime . Back back bearing at rotor from dust ingress . First time i tried to warranty milwaukee refused saying tool was abused. Lol. By the 3rd or 4th failure i figured out how to replace the bearings myself. Had to make special tools but got it worked out.
I detailed a review on Milwaukee website and they reached out to me inquiring about the failures. They ended up sending me a care package full of goodies. They have since discontinued that model.
Glad you have had better luck but my grinders get used hard
@@ricksanchez3176 you got to the one handed one you won’t ever want to use any other
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
I would love a video on the best rotary tool. I have a ALDI-brand Ferrex and I've seen Workforce and of course Dremel, Milwaukee and Makita. Also how do the different types of Dremel accessories compare to other brands? (ceramic cutter, routing bits, etc)
Thanks so much for your videos! They inform my buying choices every time I go shopping.
One random thing I noticed with genuine Dremel accessories vs cheaper ones, is the little cut off wheels from the cheaper ones absolutely reek. They all break just as easily though.
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm If I was a Millionaire, I'd donate you some ACTUAL Pro battery angle grinders where I worked with some.... Hilti & Hitachi cost only about 200-250$ each surprisingly. High-end Eisenblätter wants a bit more than 500$ but some models go beyond 700$. Same as the Original, the Inventor of these Angle grinders FLEX also wants around 500$. Festo, another company I used Festool tools wants still a hefty 400$ AEG is 250$ Panasonic anywhere between 400$ and a whopping 700$, depending on the model. Prices are averages and sometimes converted from Euro. Thanks for your small overview! :)
As funny as it sounds, years back I had some Dremel "production work". Like 200 little mis-manufactured pieces that needed tweaked to be installed. Wore out a Herbert Fraught, and another off brand, 9:30 at night ran to Home Depot and bought a $89 Dremel brand. Was getting 3 per hour with the two cheaper ones, went to 10 per hour with the Dremel. I am sure there are other good ones, but that impressed me.
Their little bat-wing speed locks for cut off wheels work great too. Expensive, but good.
Perfect records and video. Really helped. Dad's out of town and want to surprise him because his old angle grinder that's about 30 years old and had broke recently and couldn't be repaired had to be thrown away. So I'm surprising him
Excellent comparison, thank you.
Thanks and you are welcome!
This is one of the reasons why Sunday is my favorite day thank you project farm
Awesome! Glad you're here and thank you very much!
When testing cordless tools, I'd love to see a corded option or two thrown in for comparison purposes.
Most of the corded stuff when I was shopping had more power than battery, that's essentially why I chose corded
no comparison. i have a porter cable angle corded grinder. it can't be stalled. 10,000 rpm.
@@garycarpenter2932 Once you get past the 18V and 20V cordless systems into the 36-60V (and even 120V) battery systems that are becoming far more common, the batteries are starting to be able to put out as much or even more power than you can get out of a 15A 120V AC circuit. ProjectFarm is testing some of the cheapest versions of the contractor grade tools available for each brand. In the brand of tools that I use (I hate the battery lock in that all of the tool manufacturers are doing) there are at least three different 4.5" angle grinders available that are currently being manufactured and he tested the cheapest one (and paid more for it than the current amazon price of even the next grade up).
They are far superior if you pick one with at least 8 amps
I know that a corded tool is going to outperform cordless tools, but it would be interesting to see if a $30 corded Porter-Cable outperforms the more expensive cordless options (which I assume it would by a huge margin).
Great video.. I decided to buy Rigid based on the info here. I did have prior knowledge of most of them from experience but I really enjoyed the comparison. Thank you!
Thanks!
Thank you for the work you put into all this.
You are welcome!
I keep saying the same thing, WOW! I was in research testing for many years and I must say I really approve of the methods of test that are performed here. Great channel for tool and product testing. Thank you sir for sharing all this valuable info as it answers all your questions concerning tool and products.
You are welcome!
Great video yet again Todd. Thank you for helping us make informed decisions when purchasing tools!
Thank you very much!
Love your unbiased tests
Thanks!
You are the best period! I have never seen such exceptional work.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for including the Rigid tools in the lineup!! I am invested in them for their lifetime service agreement, and while I know they're usually not the best, it's great seeing how they stack up next to the big names.
You're the best, and I'm excited every week for your new video!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Another great test! I've actually made quite a few of my tool purchases based on these non-biased tests. Always honest results.
I use a lot of Harbor Freight tools as I am small scale and the tool quality is getting better. Would you consider doing a series focusing on the Warrior vs Baur vs Hercules vs a top line brand? Looking forward to more videos!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
My harbor freight angle grinder has lasted 8 years so far.
@@Sam-xt5gb I will always buy HarborFreights angle grinder. They last forever.
Wonderful videos! Thanks for doing this for us!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Always great seeing how you rigged up testing gear to put products to the test.
A major suggestion I'd like to make:
Put up a spreadsheet showing the comparative values of the tools tested so far in the video. Like when comparing RPMs, show the previous competitors' results and their claimed performance.
Always consistent quality videos right on time. Keep up the great work.
Thank you!!
WOW. Impressive tests and video. Thank you friend. Alot of work to do this. God bless.
I bought 3 dewalt grinders, and 3 metabo grinders for my welding business in 1997
Burned up 2 dewalts in less than a month. Returned all of the dewalts.
The metabos are still going strong only getting new cords occasionally and new brushes about once a year.
Love my metabos.
Thank you!
dewalt at the end is just a black and decker
As always well done. I'm a Milwaukee fan regardless of cost and it's nice to see that it performs well. I wish their accessories performed at that level.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
Yes, this is exactly what I've been waiting for. :D
This goes to show that my man Todd really does listen to comment suggestions.
Keep up the awesome videos, you legend you.
Thank you very much! The comments and video ideas help!!
I love your channel and have purchased many tools based on your recommendations, especially corded and unpowered tools. I really appreciate your test methods and approach. Thanks! Many years ago I bought into Hitachi (now Metabo HPT) cordless tools and therefore I have stuck with them for better or worse. You often test the 18V tools but not the 36V versions. I was wondering if you could do at least a comparison of the two. Especially for the angle grinder and reciprocal saw. It would also be interesting to see how the German Metabo compares in your testing. Thanks again for your excellent work!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
RUclips had better be paying this man very very well! The amount of work and time he puts into his videos is incredible! And the amount of value that he gives his viewers is also equally incredible! Pay this man!!!
I dont think some of you that think everyone should have millions for the slightest thing knows how economics works
Really glad you included the Ridgid grinder, I feel like a lot of people overlook the brand and it’s performed well in each test it’s been in. I have a bunch of the Ridgid Octane tools and I love them, I’ve never had an issue with any of them. Besides, you can’t go wrong with the lifetime warranty they come with.
Yeah, Craftsman and Rigid brands seem to be the best bang for your buck. With many tools
I'm a ridgid AEG user in uk mainly using ridgid imported from America as AEG seem to have pulled out of UK
I use them near 40 hours a week. I'm a commercial electrician so battery tools are my livelihood. Two years ago when my truck got stolen with all my Dewalt tools in it, I had a decision to make. I restarted with Ridgid over Milwaukee because of the price of the tools but I'm so glad I did. They out preform Dewalt consistently now.
Yep, I am a Ridgid user as well. Like their tools and basically got started because of the warranty.
So you get the base tools and batteries and I believe most people go with what batteries they currently own.
Milwaukee tools always do well in the head to head comparisons; however, they are tested using the best batteries they have. Ridgid testing seems to use the older battery tech. I bet using the best battery from Ridgid and Milwaukee they would be almost the same.
This guy is a good as consumer reports and seems like a heck of a nice guy to boot.
For the money Ridgid power tools are very good.
I got the Flexvolt DeWalt grinder I was impressed with the interchangeable disc sizes but have I put her through hell and she still outperform the corded tools I’ve used cement cutting straight hours of cement grinding metal cutting and grinding just a beast
Totally agree I’ve used most all these and nothing can touch the dewalt flexvolt. I’m sure you’ve also noticed the flexvolt being a hell of a lot more comfortable as well. My hands and forearms use to ache me so bad every night when I got home from work using those other grinders all day.
Love my Dewalt Flexvolt grinder. Expensive, but with 3 60v batteries I can work all day almost non stop. Doesn't quite outperform corded tools for heavy grinding, but for light and medium tasks its perfect. Definitely my favorite tool I own.
Dude I love your videos! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
The weighted pressure test is the best. That is truly how to determine how fast it will cut! Great great video 👍👍👍👍
Thanks so much!
Very informative. Love the "no fluff" style of presentation - straight down to results of evaluation which have positively influenced my decision making. I have to say, the Rigid was impressive. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, will do!
I always enjoy watching your videos and appreciate the time you put into them, and the thought you put into your testing methods. I'd be interested in seeing you compare spray on waterproofing products for camping goods and clothing.
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
That's an EXCELLENT IDEA!!! Good call for sure!!
Actually just happened to have purchased this 2981 milwaukee 2 weeks ago... Was able to put it to work on a small project, was very impressed with the ease of cutting T-lock tracks for my trailer. Good to see this test justifies spending over $200...
Glad it is working well for you!
That's the thing with buying Milwaukee, it is almost always worth the money - which is totally proven on this channel.
If they aren't the best performing tool in the category, they are always very close.
I just bought the 2880-20 one week ago lol. You never know when project farm is gonna release these videos
@@entity6966 judging by this testing on the other model, you made a good choice 👍🏻 enjoy!
I agree the Milwaukee fuel is great grinder but it can’t touch the dewalt flexvolt I’ve used most all these grinders and the flexvolt has proven its way many times over as well as much much more comfortable.
@@jamesfair9751 I have heard that a number of times with those too.
would be cool to see a “battle of the best” shootout with top models from top (maybe 3) brands in ,say 3 tools, winner takes title as the king of power tools!
More so for bragging rights than anything perhaps, but who wouldn’t want to use the top tool brand, as rated by PF haha
Love your testing methods, thank you.
You are welcome!
Great set of tests. Well thought out as usual, but especially good for real world testing.
Thanks!
I'm already invested in the Milwaukee line up. Got their drill, and 2 different impacts, with 3 batteries. Yeah they are expensive but they are probably the most durable, reliable and you just can't beat their power in most tools
Even though I started out in Ryobi, I always had an eye for Milwaukee. I work in Tile (demo and installation) and Drywall (demo and installation). A lil of cabinets and framing. I still don’t win a lot yet (still a noob here) but I’m already planning to get the M Fuel tools. So excited!
Todd convinced me to start buying Milwaukee. It's a rare event where Milwaukee doesn't win these contests. I still have my original porter cable tools, but I'm all Milwaukee now.
That was an amazing comparison you've made!
I'll add my personal experiences if I may. I'm a Y12 student and at my high school in the metal work rooms they've standardized Makita and have these girders. I've used them for hours on end and perform very well provided you give them 3amp or high batteries. They are also tough as they are used by the most unskilled and most mechanical sympathy lacking students, they are dropped, have wheels explode, left out in the sun (40 degrees plus here in Australia) and left in the rain. They are used five hours a day 5 days a week for 40 weeks a year and they keep running. Love the quality so much I purchased one my self (the brushed version though)
one other thing i noticed was the nock off Makita grinder didn't have the low battery detector and so if you're using this tool you must monitor the battery life and not run it dead or you will kill the battery permanently.
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
ALWAYS awesome content!
Thanks!
Excellent review!
Thanks!
As a test engineer I have to say I love this channel! Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!
Todd, It would be interesting to see a comparison between rotary tools. I own a Dremel I purchased years and years ago and has never let me down. Thank you for another awesome video.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
I've killed some Dremels. Some models have this plastic coupler in them that just rips to shreds. I've blown the motors up in them. But Bosch owns Dremel now so the build quality and design has changed a lot. For little electric rotary tools I use a couple B&D RTX model ones I picked up cheap on close out. I think I paid $10 for one? For real rotary action I'll use a pneumatic die grinder. But there's still a place for those little electric jobbies. I also have a Foredom flexible shaft tool too. They're hardcore.
@@1pcfred I got tired of their low power when used outside of their model airplane lighweight tasks (only 115 watt consumption, less than that actual produced power)... So I made the effort and bought a real, Germany made METABO straight grinder with both 1/4" and 1/8" collets, and 710 watts, one of the few straight grinders with Variable Speed and Constant Torque. After 13 years and a lot of use, it still works as new, a kind of "forever" tool. I still keep my older (and better made Dremel 3950) for those small jobs where the big METABO cannot get close...
@@alfredomarquez9777 I have a number of rotary tools. The small Dremel style ones are limited in power. Nothing electric can compare to pneumatic. I have a made in USA CP860 heavy duty air die grinder. It's peak rotary tool action. Even cheap far eastern air tools can be OK though. For electric collet tools Rotozips are hard to beat. They're made by Bosch now. They even make cordless Rotozip tools that are good for a quick zip. I have one made by B&D I keep around the shop for little stuff. Then I have the ultimate in rotary geekdom, a Foredom flex shaft. You can see one of those in the movie Click when Sandler goes Way Way beyond and meets Christopher Walken. It's hanging over his workbench. It's so quintessential they used it as a movie prop. My Optrel welding hood shows up in a lot of movies too. You have to love when your tools end up on the big screen.
Very good review, thanks again!
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Awesome review that explains wich one will add user fatigue and wich will not
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Great viewing for a Sunday afternoon thanks
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As a welder for the last 10 years, nothing beats the 5" Milwaukee fuel grinder for cordless performance and weight. I've worn out the gears in 4 of them, which is my only gripe, needs more lubrication in the gear drive area.
Don't be scared to take out the 4 screws and put some synthetic jizz in there once they get tired
You're recommending an expensive tool that's failed on you 4 times?
@@sjelliott6660 He's a welder - he probably uses the hell out of the tool, and has seen the others fail earlier. Get your comparisons straight.
I used to work in selective demolition, and it wasn't about which tool would not fail, but which tool took the longest before failure. With reciprocating saws, those were also Milwaukee. Bosh, Rigid, Makita, etc. all failed earlier. Milwaukee was worth the money, even for the eventual failure.
Grinder & paint makes you the welder you ain’t.
No wonder you go through them like a fat kid on cake
@@workingguy6666 Who are you? I asked him, expecting a legitimate answer. I didn't ask for your guesses about a person you don't know.
This channel is such a valuable resource for us end users. Thank you 🙏
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thank you for doing these tests
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If you are going to be using a grinder for an extended period of time, nothing beats a corded model.
Great point. Thank you
if you need one where no power is accessible nothing beats a cordless
@@kansasoutdoors5667 Duh
@@kansasoutdoors5667 I'd like to hear you say that underwater.
@@waterloo123100 guy was stating to obvious so i did as well
The Makita knockoff did surprisingly well for what it’s worth. Seems like it would be good for smaller/ lighter jobs. I’m already invested into the makita lineup so experimenting with more knock off’s of other makita tools doesn’t seem like a terrible idea lol
Thanks for the feedback.
My brother got one he opened it up and added more grease and made more qiet. Used daily for cutting threaded rod and uni strut.
@@dazz318 yea they need more grease in the gears but they are great grinders. i've got 2 of them alongside my real makita. great for wire brushes and flap discs
yep. I would too. The batteries have always been the weak link in cheap cordless tools. weak link removed.
I have one, all decent except the brake doesnt hold the gears when you try to change wheels. Real PINTA that and the only negative.
Love the channel!! I have a suggestion. How about framing hammers or nail remover tools
During Covid shutdown when I was on unemployment I have been watching HVAC videos and especially yours. Love it.
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Aside from a few outliers most of those grinders look to be useable. I'd be interested to see a runtime test between them all, because that's all that really matters. A grinder you can't push on so much will still cut, and if the battery lasts 20 minutes v/s 10 minutes on the competition that you can hoof on - then the 20 minute runtime is probably a better pick. I know for myself I can get about 15 minutes out of a 5Ah on a DCG405. I get significantly less out of an older Makita DGA452.
One feature you might want to test on the DCG415 is cutting something that grabs the disc trying to force a kickback. My DCG405 stops dead in those situations.
The big name brands have several different batteries to choose from. So even if a Milwaukee which was clearly the fastest doesnt last as long as a Craftsman if they both use a 3Ah battery, Milwaukee has options up to 12Ah
@@jabroni6199 You gonna take out a second mortgage on the house to buy those tools along with all the batteries that Milwaukee seems to never send with the tool?
@@fouraces9137 If you’re asking me, All but one of my cordless tools are already Milwaukee. how much you’re willing or able to spend is a separate topic. The comment was about run times not value. I’m merely pointing out that run time isn’t such a black and white answer, especially if you compare some of the cheaper tools which may only have one or two battery options to some of the pricier ones that have a half dozen options.
As it relates to buying and 2nd mortgages, unless I need the tool asap, which is pretty much never, I typically buy them around the holidays or Father’s Day when Home Depot has some promos going.
@UClNnKe20_3rGH5uIqjTvFmQ :D If you need to cut something bigger I don't think a 4 1/2 inch battery grinder would be the weapon of choice. Or at least you would get the big drain batteries knowing that you are going to be out in the field for a long time and needing to hoof on it!
Mostly we do fabrication and installation in a factory setting. Although I have chopped at least 2 complete Multivac thermoforming machines into flat scrap with the DCG405. And it did well. The reason to not use mains power in that instance is it was on a working yard with no power on the side that was needed, And no way to run a cable without getting a slap from H&S. I think I ran 4 chargers and 8 5Ah batteries and had almost constant uptime.
It's never an easy choice when you pick tools. Do you spend £400 on 8x 5Ah or £1000 on 5x 12Ah. Either way your still going to be waiting for the batteries to cool and the chargers to finish in a constant run application. Would Flexvolt be a better option? probably not in my situation. The higher drain would mean even more batteries and chargers on the go and there's a limit to what you can make a company spend to get a job done.
I can put one of those diamond Wood restoration Wheels that have diamond flaps on there that you can get at Lowe's for about $60 and it will literally take every bit of paint off of Old Wood and seconds and leave the wood with just swirl marks like a orbital sander and it has enough grab to it that my Milwaukee M18 fuel cordless grinder will pull me around while I'm holding on to it and I can get about two good hours out of it with my 12ah battery so if you're talking about using a cutting wheel or grinding wheel you're talking about a substantially longer runtime because that wheel that I'm talking about puts a massive amount of stress and strain on that grinder because it basically like a flap disc except it's only got six little flaps on it and they're in about a 45° angle and they remain flat against the piece of wood so you're literally fighting the grinder the entire time I'm not the biggest or strongest of guys I do consider myself fairly capable at 37 years old but that thing just pulls me all along walls when redoing houses and paint restoration on old wooden siding or decks with it. If you're getting that kind of run time out of that grinder you need to swap grinders. Any Milwaukee M18 fuel tool gets a significant and substantially longer run time as well as the battery running cooler and it gets more power on top of that if you use any of the M18 high output batteries the bigger the amp hours are on the batteries the bigger the boost and run time. Dewalt's new what I call the flat stack batteries they are coming out with are pretty much their answer to Milwaukee's high output batteries except that they just did it in a smaller package because all the high output batteries from Milwaukee are actually bigger because of the bigger cells in them. Here's an example in real world terms the m18 high output 3ah battery well actually get you longer run time and more power than their standard XC 5ah battery in about half its size it's a little bit wider and longer but it's a lot thinner and a lot more lightweight but it will significantly outperform that 5.0 it's perfect for impacts and drills. And the M18 fuel oscillating tool, fuel jigsaws, trim router, etc. A good real world example is when I did metal stud framing in a warehouse doing panelization for hotel walls that we would build on a table and then load up on a truck to send to the job site where they would stand them up. They were at any given time four or five framers on two tables combined and each of us put anywhere from $750 to 1200 00 5/8 number 3 Roberts panhead self tapping screws in between 18ga-12ga cold rolled steel every single day. I could get about 20% more screws on a 3.0 high output than with that standard 5.0. I think a lot of it also had to do with the amount of weight that tool has because you weren't as quickly fatigued by the weight of the tool even though it's not much at all even with the 5.0 doing it for 8, 10, 12, even 14-hour days sometimes it adds up especially when they had us work 7 days a week from November 11th through January 6th with only Thanksgiving and Christmas off at 14 hours a day. Those high output batteries were like God sends. That was my first and only foray into metal studs. Any other time I'm basically a commercial and residential Carpenter/painter with a focus mostly on remodels, restorations and sometimes new construction trim carpentry being my specialty. The fact that they are finally coming out with dual battery powered tools is insane to me considering how much power and run time you get on single battery powered tools already. Their new M18 cordless modular shop vacs that they just announced recently are just insane to me I hope that they even released a dual battery powered 10-in table saw because the one that I have now is 8 and 1/4 that runs on One battery is outstanding. But I do wish it was a 10 inch not a 8¼ in blade. Long story short though the new batteries that they have out nowadays are leagues above anything that you might be used to if that's what you're getting out of your tools already no offense. I know people around from that are very hesitant to buy into the fuel line for Milwaukee or even get the big batteries because they don't really believe that they are that much different and I'm always game to show them a demonstration of how much better they are literally infinitely in every way. Even though flex is coming out with tools and dewalts got their new battery line and even though hilty has their new cordless line coming out I still think that Milwaukee is leading the pack with cordless tools right now. I'm sure they'll be overtaken here soon within a year or two they usually tend to swap titles with other companies every once awhile. But being 37 years old and doing this for so long that I can say My First Tool combo kit was the seven tool Milwaukee ni-cad set back in 2005 back when believe it or not even Lowe's Home improvement actually sold Milwaukee tools. It is super exciting to be alive in this time and age and I'm at right now to get the experience and witness all these advancements and cordless technologies I am a massive Milwaukee Fanboy and a fishinotto of all tools mostly red but still I'm a lover of niche tools that you certainly need but when you do you have it and it excels at that one specific job so well it's just like I can't believe nobody else has done this yet. Sorry for the extraordinarily long comment but that's my two cents anyways well I guess it would be like $0.10 for that kind of length LOL.
Love the great repeatable test fixturing you invent for these! I'd be curious how these cordless grinders compared to corded versions. Like is the $20 HF grinder better than the more expensive cordless grinders?
I like how thjis is straight to the point, good result, result being show that people are looking for
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I just bought an angle grinder 3 days ago. I went with the DeWalt due to it being on sale at HD. Thanks again for the videos and the work you put into them.
Great choice and thank you!
Thank you for making these videos. I appreciate the amount of effort you put in to keep everything as unbiased as possible. I have a request. If you could please start to include Flex tools whenever you are testing tools. They are Lowe's exclusive and just came out in 2021. They are a premium brand that would be compared with DeWalt and Milwaukee. Thank you again and I always look forward to your videos.
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Hilti has great angle grinders, I've really liked working with their AG 150-A36
Another helpful comparison.👍👍👍
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Hell yea been waiting all day watching your videos in anticipation
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I love your channel and your excellent product reviews! If someone were just now trying to decide which family of cordless tools to invest into, which should they choose? It might be nice to do a compilation video and determine the best manufacturer across the various tools. I also wish you had more kobalt tools in your testing because I invested in that brand years ago and I'm curious how they'd compare. Keep up the great work!
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Probably Milwaukee! not a bad bet for quality. I use both them and Makita for cordless, no complaints after about 10 years daily use.
awesome review! thanks
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I never seen your videos before, but only 1 minute in and now 3 minutes i find this video so good
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The variable speed of the Makita makes it far more versatile. You can use it to sharpen tools without overheating steel, grind paint off without melting it, perform more delicate work without worrying about kickback. I used to own a Black and Decker variable speed grinder and it was great (until it broke).
Good point. Plenty of people have different demands and uses for the same tool. Versatility is important.
Thanks for sharing.
Good point. Milwaukee makes a few variable speed fuel grinders, I’d like to see them head to head; both are probably very solid grinders
I was using my Ridgid grinder on Thursday to remove a actuator on a 4” 3way valve. Easily cutting the actuator off without damaging the body. The smooth action makes it easy to operate
Smooth action? Its not a .308 bolt action rifle.
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@@DarkLinkAD Still smoother than a Savage! 😂
@@TehButterflyEffect Savage Arms makes a smooth ball bearing bolt action. The most popular Remington however constantly jams, no bearings. Needs years of workin
Great job testing.
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I love these videos. I've invested too much into the ryobi line to change at this point. a look in my small shop, you'd think i was sponsored lol. but i live on half an acre, so even if their offerings fall in the middle, they're adequate enough to do my jobs. I've had no personal gripes (yet). Thank you for the time and investment you make in these videos. Super fascinating and highly addictive.
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