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About the depth of field meter. It is the same with most of the manual lens brands. Because we need to give some buffer, if we do it just right, due to different camera body have different minor difference, it will be out of focus if we use it on different camera body during we shoot in infinity. So we will set it over, instead of set it just right.
The ZFc would definitely have been more successful with a line of lenses that aesthetically matches. The ZF seems more successful in part because you can adapt any 35mm retro lenses without a crop and it’s a great camera for that. This is why it doesn’t make much sense for companies to keep splitting their efforts between apsc and full frame if they’re just going to half ass both of them. Even Sony doesn’t have a lot of great apsc glass, better than Nikon and canon but apsc is always an afterthought for these companies so why buy an apsc camera from them? Fuji is completely avoiding the full frame market and as a result they have a really comprehensive apsc lineup with excellent lenses, and then they have medium format which they’ve been doing pretty well too. No one really wants to buy full frame lenses for their apsc cameras, in part because they tend to be larger than comparable apsc lenses but also because the prices tend to be higher for full frame lenses. Apsc has advantages, for event photography for example it’s really nice to be able to shoot at f1.4 and still have more than the subject’s eyelashes be in focus, smaller potential lenses, more affordable lenses, smaller bodies and the dynamic range difference at this point is pretty negligible imo. I was super interested in the zfc until I realized Nikon would never make another lens for it.
The main issue is that it doesn't matter, with full frame you can stop down to f2.8 or such, or whatever the equivalent depth of field is, and because of the better high iso performance due to the sensor size, you'll get roughly equivalent picture quality. I do like how inexpensive full frame is now, though. But yeah, having cruddy lineup for crop mirrorless lenses is their biggest crutch. At least EOSM had only crop lenses to be made, now with RF they only make full frame lenses really.
The marking quality issue is a real problem actually. With recent Chinese manufacturer releasing really affordable lens (which is great), but the marking is a bit off. Manual focus depend quite a lot with the focus marking, mainly when you're outdoor and focus peaking becomes quite hard. It's faster to setup your zone focusing and use the distance scale. My TTartisan lens also suffer the same issue. Overtime you could get used to it, when you know your lens better, but still.. it's quite annoying..
7artisans 35mm f/1.4 Z mount is half price of this lens. I suspect that they have a very similar optic formula. It also looks better than the "nonikon" in my opinion.
Canon has released cameras...and people say "there's no lenses for that.." Panasonic has released cameras...and people say, "there's no lenses for that." And even here, it is said..."Nikon doesn't have any lenses for that." I would assume, lenses are on the way. All manufacturers bring lenses eventually, and it probably keeps the conversations going, re-ignites the camera sales.
the exact reason why nikon did not got my money. I LOVE the sgima I series small primes for their desing and quality, look gorgeous on y a7cii. there is an adaptor for e-z, id be curious as i find the Zf so pretty!!!
@@Abc1987 ive been shooting 50 for the longest time, but when switching, ive been using the 45f2.8 the most, 24f3.5 for street with flash is really fun, and 65f2 is gorgeous. Id love to put my hand on the 50f2.... Zeiss 55f1.8 is my all time favorite for the rendering, but all signa I serie primes wins hands down for the fun i have shooting... sorry, long answer haha
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I like the Voigtlander FF lenses better for the Z system. Plus, the Voigtlander lenses have electronic contacts.
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Lok, I love your enthusiasm. Are you always in a good mood? Cheers
About the depth of field meter.
It is the same with most of the manual lens brands.
Because we need to give some buffer, if we do it just right, due to different camera body have different minor difference, it will be out of focus if we use it on different camera body during we shoot in infinity.
So we will set it over, instead of set it just right.
That's ... bad. And it doesn't matter if others do it as well. It's still bad.
Needs to be chipped with focus confirmation and trap focus.
Massively important point!
The ZFc would definitely have been more successful with a line of lenses that aesthetically matches. The ZF seems more successful in part because you can adapt any 35mm retro lenses without a crop and it’s a great camera for that.
This is why it doesn’t make much sense for companies to keep splitting their efforts between apsc and full frame if they’re just going to half ass both of them. Even Sony doesn’t have a lot of great apsc glass, better than Nikon and canon but apsc is always an afterthought for these companies so why buy an apsc camera from them?
Fuji is completely avoiding the full frame market and as a result they have a really comprehensive apsc lineup with excellent lenses, and then they have medium format which they’ve been doing pretty well too. No one really wants to buy full frame lenses for their apsc cameras, in part because they tend to be larger than comparable apsc lenses but also because the prices tend to be higher for full frame lenses. Apsc has advantages, for event photography for example it’s really nice to be able to shoot at f1.4 and still have more than the subject’s eyelashes be in focus, smaller potential lenses, more affordable lenses, smaller bodies and the dynamic range difference at this point is pretty negligible imo. I was super interested in the zfc until I realized Nikon would never make another lens for it.
The main issue is that it doesn't matter, with full frame you can stop down to f2.8 or such, or whatever the equivalent depth of field is, and because of the better high iso performance due to the sensor size, you'll get roughly equivalent picture quality. I do like how inexpensive full frame is now, though. But yeah, having cruddy lineup for crop mirrorless lenses is their biggest crutch. At least EOSM had only crop lenses to be made, now with RF they only make full frame lenses really.
The marking quality issue is a real problem actually. With recent Chinese manufacturer releasing really affordable lens (which is great), but the marking is a bit off.
Manual focus depend quite a lot with the focus marking, mainly when you're outdoor and focus peaking becomes quite hard. It's faster to setup your zone focusing and use the distance scale.
My TTartisan lens also suffer the same issue. Overtime you could get used to it, when you know your lens better, but still.. it's quite annoying..
Any issues with the 24mm on the ZF? Do you need to crop or it’s totally usable?
You do need to go to the camera menu, set the camera to shoot at "DX" format (Nikon call APS-C crop "DX" format), so the camera would crop it for you.
I struggle with pronunciation too. But yes definitely very cool looking lenses!
7artisans 35mm f/1.4 Z mount is half price of this lens. I suspect that they have a very similar optic formula. It also looks better than the "nonikon" in my opinion.
that's a really cool lens - i love your reviews!
Canon has released cameras...and people say "there's no lenses for that.." Panasonic has released cameras...and people say, "there's no lenses for that." And even here, it is said..."Nikon doesn't have any lenses for that." I would assume, lenses are on the way. All manufacturers bring lenses eventually, and it probably keeps the conversations going, re-ignites the camera sales.
Waaay to go Lokman!!
Tell them to make a 28mm now :)
We will take that into consideration!
@@Mijonju Great, it's essential for street photography just like 35 and 50 ;)
the exact reason why nikon did not got my money. I LOVE the sgima I series small primes for their desing and quality, look gorgeous on y a7cii.
there is an adaptor for e-z, id be curious as i find the Zf so pretty!!!
What’s your favorite prime for the a7cii?
@@Abc1987 ive been shooting 50 for the longest time, but when switching, ive been using the 45f2.8 the most, 24f3.5 for street with flash is really fun, and 65f2 is gorgeous.
Id love to put my hand on the 50f2....
Zeiss 55f1.8 is my all time favorite for the rendering, but all signa I serie primes wins hands down for the fun i have shooting...
sorry, long answer haha
That adapter works perfectly btw.
I really didn't like the Zf because the controls are mish-mashy, but it's turning out to be a really great manual lens monster.
If I wanted a Nikkor look-alike, I’d get a Nikkor or newer Cosina. Not something called Nonikkor.
I don't think I've ever had a lens with a scale that far off. You got two from the same company. .... No Nikkor indeed.
china lens thats why!