Make great tools even greater 3in cutoff tools - mini belt sander and *****!
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- One of the best cordless tools to be introduced in the past few years.
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Adapter kit: go to ebay and search, they're everywhere.
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After Thoughts about the Video: I just want to start out with saying the DeWalt is a monster and easily 4x more powerful than the Milwaukee. The only thing the makes the Milwaukee usable is the ability to utilize ultra thin .032" cutoff disc. Using the common 3" discs(.070,.045, etc) cause it to stall with even a few ounces of downward force(cutting steel). However it rocks as a mini belt sander as the belt drive drum is so small, utilizing what little torque the tool has. I bought the DeWalt to replace the Milwaukee but I think I'll keep it around as a belt sander indefinitely.
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DEWALT (DCS438B) 20V MAX* XR BRUSHLESS 3IN COMPACT CUT OFF TOOL 65Ford 1965Ford Milwaukee M12 FUEL 3 in. Compact Cut Off Tool Kit 2522-21XC
Cool. Re lathe technique, my philosophy is that if it worked well enough you did it right.
True
An old lathe is better than no lathe. Maybe you could use your old lathe to make shims or bushings to make it run better again. That would be a great video. All your videos are great and informative. Thank you.
Thanks. They call it getting married to your machine when you learn how to use all of it's quirks. It does everything, it's just slow.
@@sixtyfiveford It can still be a great machine as long as you account and work with the backlash. I'm sure 65 has already got that figured out! IMO, 65 has the mindset of a great machinist without even being one :-) (yet)
I been using my too small 4"ers on my dremel for a while. I like to use them up. I'm going to do that sanding belt setup, that will come in handy.
Gotta get the max life out of them.
Great mod. Sometime only a power file will do!
Something I never see YT machinists do when parting is to lightly take the edge off the cutting tool with a stone and back off the cut like when you are drilling so cut for half a turn, back off a full turn, cut for half a turn, back off for a full turn, this is especially important for chewy metals. If you lock off the carriage, don't run the work too fast and use plenty of cutting fluid you can usually get decent finishes even on worn out lathes
Great comment. Perhaps rather than taking the edge off the cutting tool, keep it sharp and reduce the angle of the cutting edge a few degrees so as to make it less likely to "dig in"? Just brain storming right now...
@@AtimatikArmy I'm not going to say no, but parting tool angles are already pretty steep for strength and I'm just passing on a tip which has been passed on over decades (centuries?) Not that we should do these things unthinkingly but having been taught it, it worked so well that I've had no reason to try any other way. (it also works with drills)
A hard fine, sharp edge cuts into a softer surface more easily but if it's too easy, depending on the resistance in the tool, work piece and cross slide you can end up taking a cut or feed rate that is unsustainable. By lightly running a stone over it is just enough to remove that sharpness, increasing the resistance, allowing you to make a more controlled cut. It also reduces the chance of chipping the edge so the tool lasts longer and produces cleaner cuts.
@@strongandco I too have heard this before and it does make sense. If it's not broken don't fix it right? Thanks for reminding me about this, I will keep it in mine next time I'm parting something on the lathe and things start not going smooth!
I half expected Ginger to take off to the liquor store and get you a beer! Great video! Thanks for the ideas!
Next time!
I was watching on yt belt sender and think if I can make attachment on cut of tool and i can see your video -you all ready done 👍 👌
Nice to see the old machine turning out chips. Cool project.
Thanks!
I love the way your brain works.
That'll work but all my smoothing is from hammers and oil soaks. Ginger is scared she's going to get caught without her learners permit. God Bless!
Just a couple more lessons.
@@sixtyfiveford RIGHT!
I was able to adapt the drum wheel that came with my 3/8 air belt sander from harbor freight. I drilled and counterbored the center to fit the screw for my Milwaukee cut off tool. Then I machined a 5/16 slot on the side of the drum that keys onto the drive of the cutoff tool.
Dude is teaching his dog to drive! 😄 ginger said " but I don't have a license dad" . Cool vid as usual got to figure out why I get no notifications . I need that dewalt tool but I need different radius front rollers for grinding welds on specific radius bends. Man I really need to set up my lathe, that and a million other projects I got going.
The Dewalt is 4x more powerful than the Milwaukee and is just an amazing tool.
Waste not want not, for those cut off wheels. And watching lath work is so satisfying for some reason. Was a pretty cool mod for those cordless tools. Haha Ginger will be an Uber driver in no time.
I'm most excited about using junk cutoff discs for sure.
Couple more lessons
In the past, I've done the same conversions as you have Moe... though back in the day it was primarily on pneumatic tools. One of the best places I found to score various cut-off or grinding discs was at work when they would get tossed for being too small on a 4 or 6 inch corded grinder. I had guys start saving them for me by tossing them in a box in the work areas when a new disc was mounted. It didn't take too long before I literally had about 500 to use up over time. Interestingly, other guys noted my conversions and asked me to duplicate them on their tools. As you might guess, eventually, everyone started keeping the worn down discs from the larger grinders for themselves. I was glad I piled up several large boxes of them before the supply nearly dried up! You could still find them on benches or the floors in the welding labs in the ensuing years but it was nice to be ahead of the game. I tell everyone I know that doesn't work in a production environment like that to find someone who does... so their friend can start saving the worn down discs for home use. Yes, it's nice to have a lot of friends in low places. Best wishes! 🤔👍🏻😁
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After seeing how smart the dog is, it wouldnt have surprised me to see her actually grab the wheel and drive around! LOL
Couple more lessons
@@sixtyfiveford You wont need a couple , maybe just one more and you will be able to teach her! LOL Oh i guess you were saying SHE needed the lessons.....haha
Whatever it was that Ginger was upset about, my Border Collie wanted us to give a hand to help.
Timmy's in the well!!!
Awesome. She was just nervous for her first driving lesson.
@@sixtyfiveford 😂
That would be so handy cleaning up my trailer hitch 👍
Yes it would!
I really would like to have a metalworking lathe
I need a lathe so bad.
Problem is finding one. There's a plethora of guys hoarding/collecting these. They'll have ten to twenty in their garage and won't let them go. They need to be out there working in small home shops.
I just said to myself slow that thing down a bit, when you said the same.😄
Haha Ginger is the best she knew she didn't know how! Great video BTW! I still haven't even ponied up for an electric cut off tool... still using the cheap old school air "zinger"!
Still love all my air tools but they keep getting buried. Dragging a hose to where I'm working is usually the burden that prevents them from getting used more.
@@sixtyfiveford yeah... plus the compressor always running in the back ground gets annoying as well...
@@AtimatikArmy Need a compressor shed out back far enough away that you can't hear it.
@@D2O2 yeah that would be nice!
I noticed that you are manually crossfeeding the carriage to turn the drive pulley and the aluminum spacer.
I have a SB Model C lathe. I can't see the handle on that should be on the left side of the bed to set the crossfeed to forward and reverse. If I'm just not seeing it then ignore this comment.
I have a spare reversing lever that I bought along with some other replacement parts that my lathe needed.
With a full set of feed gears you can make any thread you need.
If you would like my spare lever just let me know.
My 1935 C is stock and doesn't have power cross feed. I have the half nut only carriage that I use for threading with all the change gears(minus 2).
@@sixtyfiveford Glad it is all there. Even worn out having a lathe is a big plus in the shop.
@@OldSneelock One day I'll find a small lathe with quick change and power feed. This will have to do in the meantime.
@@sixtyfiveford Mine cost $400 twenty years ago. I think I will sit tight and do without.
Mighty good little tool you have in that bloody old lathe. You made a damn fine little drive wheel with it. If you sand the parts smoother on the lathe they'll be better than a purchase kit. I have an ancient one with no gearbox. Still, brilliant.
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
Thanks for watching!
I built one of those from scraps. I have a video on it. Thanks for the video
Nice work!
Heh heh heh!!! Great video... I have no lathe, but it's nice to know I could buy it....
But the end!!!! Hahahaha! Even your Dog is telling you "Dad, I CAN'T DRIVE!!! I'M A DOG!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!"
Heh heh heh! Cracked me up....
Come on now... come on man... Teach him to get you beers out of the fridge, and leave it at that.....
Couple more lessons and she'll drive as good as half the people on the road.
@@sixtyfiveford You're not wrong Sir. You're not wrong. At least she wouldn't be looking at her phone while she's flying down the road....
that's friggin awesome!
Thanks. It was a fun project
Thank you buddy always good advices and the end cracked me up 🤣😂🤣😂 great!!!👍👍💯
Glad you enjoyed it
At least Ginger wasn't texting while driving.
Just an old truck and it's dog! 👍
You got that right!
cool modification
Hey Thanks.
I spent 22 years working in machine shops and I saw a lot of techniques,, but the portoband parting was a first.... When parting,, use the thinnest tool you have (.06 or .09) and just let the part drop without anything in the center especially not a drill bit.. You should be able to adjust any play out of the ways... Those old South Bends are work horses and are always fixable...
It's my acme nut and threads that are worn out. It'll do it but it's a 5+minute process vs 30 seconds with the portaband.
@@sixtyfiveford nothing wrong with the Porta band or band saw. Just face afterwards exactly as you did!
Milwaukee started making these as a complete tool.
I did see that
Wow, nearly 300k now! Congrats
Hey thanks
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You think Stanley-Black & Decker will ever make a Craftsman 3” cut off tool? TTI made them across the range (Ryobi, Rigid, and Milwaukee M12).
Another informative video. Thank you.
So nice of you
this is cool never would of see this coming keep it up
Great hack. That cutter looked a little hot.
Using the worn cut discs has a few values. I like I can remove the guard and get into smaller areas to cut.
I have seen a few RUclipsrs use this belt sander. I'm curious as to if I could find a use for one? Great video as usual.
I've had the pneumatic ones for years and forget I have them as they sit in the back of a drawer. In the past couple months I've used the Milwaukee converted one a fair amount as it's right in front of me.
I use mine all the time.
At the risk of being accused of blasphemy I like it better than a file for cleaning up and deburing.
It's mainly used for grinding welds, hard to reach areas, fillet welds (especially inside a sharp inside corner.) The benefit of any belt style grinder over let's say a hard disc, is that you have more surface area of abrasive, with the same amount of contact patch. In addition to simply adding more abrasive to wear out, the grinding runs cooler, which keeps the grains sharp for longer.
I was machining down a small sprocket for a Chinese go-kart, the chains were unavailable so I was converting it to a number 41 which it's so common you can almost buy it at 7-Eleven, I was machining the old sprocket down and over shot, momentary laps of judgment, oh well.
Nice build. I know your not a machinest rule of thumb any stickout past 2 times the diameter needs a center or steadyrest for acuracy
Ryobi already sells a finger sander like this.
Nice work, wish I had lathe.
Thanks 👍
Smart video
Thankfully Milwaukee have just released a proper finger sander.
Yeah, I saw that.
That was cool
Cool tip
👍 Hi Ginger
To bad- Ginger did not want to drive your car... good video though- enjoyed it and gives me some ideas
Couple more lessons
I shit you not, I could smell the burning oil and the smell of a hot electrical motor when that shot on the lathe around 12 minutes happened. That was weird.
That's funny. I've had the same experiences. Crazy how the mind works.
I sometimes get brain farts and it causes people to mis hear reverse threads when in my mind I've said left hand threads... Finally working on that unibody Furd truck again Moe ?
Seams to be a never ending supply of projects always piling in front of the Ford.
Amazing.
Thanks!
Milwaukee just came out with a belt sander.
Yeah, I saw that a few months back. I guess their tired of everyone making their own. I think is around $250 bare tool.
Nice! I've been recently thinking about for pipe welding making a small wheel belt sander attachment sometime in the future. For the price of buying them new... seems can be made more cost effectively and with rescued made in the US materials.
Cutting oil or coolant will help those drills last way longer with steel. Aluminum is something like air and frankly I don't recall offhand... though maybe it's cutting oil is messing with aluminum. That Tap Magic EP-Extra is my go to, seems like night and day to me. Good machining work. Thanks for sharing!.
I pipe/contour belt sander would be cool.
@@jafinch78 Tap Magic for steel and ordinary WD40 for aluminum and your pretty set!
@@AtimatikArmy Ah, OK. I haven't done machine tooling really in decades. I still need to get to work on the mini-lathe upgrades since I have most of the parts (new bearings, indexing plate, treadmill motor & pulleys, collet chucks) to improve and an angle plate with new vertical slide so I can replace the compound with and use the lathe as a mill once I widen the cross slide and get that more tight spec and lapped. Thanks for the affirmation!
@@jafinch78 I should say that is my opinion and always works well for me. The WD40 thing for aluminum I've heard many times and since it's usually around that what I often use and works well! Cool project it sounds like you got going there! I also have a mini lathe in my small home shop! Limited by the size of the work you can do but with some upgrades like it sounds like you're doing, quite capable! Cheers
That’s cool can you make one for a RYOBI cut off
I think Ryobi just released a mini belt sander like this last year.
Milwaukee has seen everyone converting their cutoff tools so their gonna start selling a band file now.
I saw that.
👍👍
Still dunno what I'd use one of these for, if I'm cutting plastic I've got a multitool or a jigsaw and ryobi makes a cordless baby belt sander for like 100$
They're more for metalwork
Hack-o-rama!
"Ginger take the wheel"
Will there be a link for the lathe
That's a cutting wheel not a grinding wheel
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Letttttttssssss gooooooo
I think my comment was deleted about 2483-20 and 2482-20
I did see they released those a month or so ago.
Why don't you just use the air tool?
Because I'm not always in the shop.
those those cutoffs are one speed! not good for what your doing.
i use the pneumatic one and i’m always using different speeds.
Driving isn't as easy as it looks.
Of course you know hobos have all the best tools
Yes they do
Have the dog drive to MCD for a chicken sandwich.
McDiabetes
Heck yeah
Good ideas... Except the belts won't be running very fast. It's all about surface feet per minute and cordless tools typically run slower than corded.
The cutoff wheel will run ok but the 'real' abrasive is concentrated away from the hub because they need higher strength around the arbor. Good enough for small projects and again, the speed will not be enough probably
Nope. The Milwaukee 3” cutoff is rated 20,000 rpm, the HF pneumatic sander is rated 16,000 rpm.
I think your chances are better with Ginger than with a self driving car!
Usually your videos are very well explained, but not this one. 😵💫Keep in mind that some of your viewers are mechanically illiterate. 🥴
There's a lot of uncommon tools etc used in this video so I just glossed over them.
excelent !