I Tried Hollow Knight To Prove It’s Ridiculous
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In retrospect, after reading the comments, I think I did a pretty bad job explaining my overall thoughts on the boss fights in hollow knight. Without spoiling the video, I think my problem with the bosses was how easy they were for me. Majority of the ones I did took me 2 tries max. The only exceptions was "Hornet" and "Watcher Knights", which took me around 8/5 tries respectively.
The majority of bosses I fought were like 3 attack moves on repeat.
This made it seem like it was very trivial and dampened my experience compared to a game like dark souls. In darks souls, since bosses would take me a significantly longer, it felt like it was so much satisfying to finally learn and adapt and then finally conquer the boss. I didn't feel this at all in Hollow Knight except for the "Watcher Knights" and it ended up being my favorite boss.
I know bosses are about learning the patterns of them and dodging all of their stuff, thats the point of a boss but I hope the above explanation at least helps explain my thought process.
I do realize that I did not fully beat hollow knight. There is so much more to the game. I only did 55% of it and then beat the "Hollow Knight".
My point of this video was to just go through my experience of this game. I did feel like the bosses were the worst part of it. I am sure there is some sweet bosses I missed and maybe Ill go back and try them if I get the time.
I dont want to anger the community of Hollow Knight, I wanted to make a video of a game that deserved it.
I hope you can enjoy the video.
Did you try cuphead ? I think you might enjoy it more
I beat it and I loved that game. That game does a lot of bosses really well
I don’t think that the bosses done in the ending that you did were meant to be difficult, it’s really just the pantheon bosses that are meant to be very hard.
Mr Rarran we all appreciate you giving hollow knight another go, honestly you were literally too good of a gamer compared to most people who truly struggled with many of the bosses, and you never got that sense of accomplishment that most of us got when you FINALLY beat that boss.
I hope you come back and finish the other bosses as they are much harder and MUCH more nuanced, but I'm happy you at least stuck to the end when you for a while didn't want to.
Try the post game bosses rarran, they will satisfy your craving for difficult bosses
"very boss fight has been learn the moves and then dodge" that describes literally every video game...including dark souls
"Every boss fight has been learn the moves and then dodge" Have you played like exactly 2 games ever?
Boss fights can have more going on or be different to what you described.
Couldn't find search results for: "Boss fights where you forget the moves and run into the attacks." perhaps it is a little too specific.🤷♂@@achannel6324
@@achannel6324 That's the vast majority of them, except perhaps in genres such as rhythm games or turn based rpgs. Care to elaborate?
@@M4x_P0w3r Zelda, Metal Gear Solid, Shadow of the colossus, these games feature bosses that are different from the watch pattern, dodge, retaliate formula.
Claiming all bosses in games is, watch pattern, dodge and attack, is what I disagree with.
Which is what OP said "Every boss fight has been learn the moves and then dodge, that describes literally every video game"
Rarrans criticism was "The majority of bosses I fought were like 3 attack moves on repeat." Rarran wanted more variety in boss attacks, based on Pinned comment he left.
@@achannel6324 I don't know what Zelda you played, but the vast majority have that pattern: learn pattern, dodge, hit weak point, rinse and repeat. Sometimes you can take the inititiative, but others you legit only have to wait until they leave themselves in a vulnerable state.
Metal Gear Solid: Run around, dodge bullets, attack back.
Shadow of the Colossus, you run up to the titans, climb them up, resist their attempts to throw you off, stab the weak point, repeat until they die. It's a variation since the environment is the enemy itself, but when you boil down to it it's the same.
Notice how two of the examples you gave are of very large sagas of videogames. If you are willing to discuss individual games or even bosses, then I can be more concrete too.
And true, HK bosses do tend to have only a few attacks, but they build those battles around being either very fast, very tanky, trying to overwhelm you through numbers/limit your effective combat space in the arena, or in the case of the harder fights, all of those at once plus a much more wide arsenal.
"It's easy", he says, repeatedly dying to the bosses he's claiming are easy. I can't wait to see him try and kill radiance.
It seems like he's confusing "easy" with "fair"
@@brendangibson8200 facts
wait till he realizes optional bosses are a thing
THANK YOU! Someone said it…I never understood why some streamers die the a couple times, and then when they FINALLY beat the boss they’re like “gAMEs eAsY”…here’s my question for that…If you claim it’s so easy THEN HOWD U DIE SO MUCH?????
Another thing too, I've yet to hear anyone else complain about hk's boss difficulty (besides being too hard), so this is either an extremely individual issue, or he's not telling the full story
I feel like there's something about Hollow Knight that makes it one of those 'Try it -> quit -> try it again -> love it' type of games. I tried it once and got stuck not knowing where to go somewhere in greenpath. Quit, then picked it up from scratch months later and it became one of my favorite indie games of all time. I have a few friends who followed more or less the same pattern. People might overhype it (like they do most games) but I think it absolutely has earned the awards and much of the praise it gets.
This is genuinely also what happened to me, except I had a couple years between attempts at the game.
Yeah, same here. I installed it a couple years ago, got lost a couple times and just told myself it's meh and forgot about it. A year later I saw something about it again and decided to try again. And now I've played through it twice or thrice and I've got like 300 hours. Really interesting phenomenon.
This almost happened to me too, but then I looked up a guide since I wanted to keep playing ;-;
This
If that's the pattern, then honestly, in my opinion, that makes it a bad game.
I’m going to be honest, I don’t understand the “you fight all the bosses the same way, learn their patterns and then kill them.” Argument. That’s almost every game where there is combat, especially dark souls, since you had brought that up.
Though I am happy that he overall enjoyed the game
Yeah I'd love to hear how he thinks its different from something like elden ring or dark souls with the learn patterns-->Beat boss-->Explore and find new boss-->... gameplay loop
This is truly an awful argument. Has he never heard of a gameplay loop?
@@tomekk.1889the main argument is that boss pattern are in the early game way too long and repetitive.
For exemple the 3 mantises had the exact same pattern. Fighting it for 3 minutes each is a chore.
Hollow knight is an incredible game, but the early game bosses sucks.
Take cup head as an example, bosses don’t feels long cause they have more variation in pattern, more phases and more mechanics from the get go.
That and the lack and health bar can make the fight really unfun
I don't get it either... I think that the dark souls bosses are harder on average, which means that they are faster + more unpredictable? Hollow Knight does start out slower due to the lack of movement, so I'm thinking that the bosses that are designed for no shade dash / descending dark / monarch wings / etc are probably boring for him, too bad Rarran didn't get to try Grimm, NKG, or PV! I think his problem may have been connected to how they took a while (probably due to not using spells and having a weak nail level) so the patterns became SUPER repetitive? But yeah the "learning patterns" criticism doesn't make much sense out of context, I'm guessing he was just trying to express how it felt long + repetitive
Rarran: Damn the game is so easy, i feel like all the bosses are just simple pattern recognition
Also Rarran: Skips every single challenging and innovative fight and platforming section.
facts
Which fights are innovative in Hollow Knight?
I also love the fact that his knight is like HYPER ACTIVE since in the boss fights hes always jiggling instead of just standing still
@@menderbug1 well obviously the special fights in the pantheons like nkg, Pure vessel and the mantis lord v2 fights but also fight like watcher knights, a lot of the dream warriors, hornet 2, radiance did something completely new at least in the scope of hollowknight and a few others that sadly werent as memorable which is why I cant tell you them rn. Depending on what your definition of innovative is all of those could be lame. But if you think bosses that have specific patterns that you need to learn are boring then darksouls should also be boring to you.
@@menderbug1 “which fights are innovative” - 🤡
I feel like he decided he didn’t like the game beforehand, and then tried to keep his integrity while slowly realizing he liked the game
yeah no
@@anonyme6782 that's what happened so wdym "yeah no" please read the comment and watch the video again :D
idk if ive ever seen someone just not use the fireball for so long. explains why he thought the boss fights were too long.
The best part of most fights in Hollow Knight imo is not winning the first time (like Soulsborne fights), but getting them down WELL. Playing aggressively, never stop hitting while dodging everything. Like most new players, you seem to have played super safe, which might contribute to the 'snoozefest' shit talking
The game even has a Permadeath mode and some Speedrun Achievements because thats kinda the point. 90% of bosses are not hard to beat, but can be challenging to do clean and fast. If youre interested I recommend the speedrun achivements a lot. Theyre totally doable to a skilled casual with some effort
I have played the game for a long time, and I disagree with you. I enjoy the bosses, but do not enjoy the playstyle you are suggesting
Yep he also died to the bosses many times and then said too easy classic gamer
@@bananacorn4375I think rattan was playing very defensively he rarely even hit the bosses that's why mantis Lords took so long you have to be a bit more agressive
@@uiopgamer4647 tbf you are right. I think a very enjoying part of the fight is hitting them with nail arts or spell when they are on the wall
Interesting that you say the boss fights are the worst part of Hollow Knight when people that aren't even big fans of the game praise it for it's boss fights. Not saying you're not allowed to have an opinion just interesting that you have the opposite opinion of a lot of people. Most people love The Mantis Lords and hate The Watcher Knights for being tedious.
I think it’s because he kinda breezed through most of the bosses whereas most people have more of a challenge with them, which makes them regard them more highly.
Also he hasn’t fought NKG, Pure Vessel, AbsRad, or Sisters of Battle which are arguably the best bosses
@@rk13567 Yes, I think that he understood and beat each boss too fast to enjoy it, when he struggled (with failed champion and watcher knights) he enjoyed the boss, but he didn't struggle with most of the bosses that he did, mostly because he basically ignored side content and went to try and beat the game, and the required bosses aren't the hardest bosses
@@devilsblade2543 I think, one of the issues is that he only really played the easy version of the bosses. I had a similar experience to him, I fought soul master and thought it was ok, then by chance I went back straight after and found the hard-mode version and fought it straight away. It took me quite a few tries but I found it much more fun. Similar with the mantis lords. They felt a bit tedious to fight when I fought just the two of them, because you get downtime between their moves. But, when you get to fight all three at once it feels amazing.
@@rk13567 I think most people absolutely love the mantis lords because of Sisters of Battle (Me included), or because of the bow they give you once defeated and all mantis become friendly
@@devilsblade2543 I don't think he enjoyed them because he struggled with the bosses, I think it was because those bosses took him out of his comfort zone, he had to play more agressively and dodge more since these 2 are always jumping on you, he couldn't play safe like he did with the other bosses, it's like that doom eternal system when you kill an enemy with a glory kill it drops life and ammo, this system forces the player to not play safe, take risks and go in the fun zone for these types of games, which was exacly what those bosses did, they forced him in the fun zone of hollow knight by never leaving his tail during the fight this is something many of the most liked bosses by the comunity do like NKG and Radiance
I would love to see you tackle the 5th pantheon if you think the bosses are a bit too easy.
oh, & maybe actually take risks & do optional boss fights
Watching Rarren do the bosses in a way that takes him twice as long was maybe the first time I wanted to backseat game in so long. Also not ever showing things about characters when they’re a big part of the game is a choice
I think my issue is that the boss fights being called bad because they're about memorizing attacks and then just dodging them is... that's exactly how Dark Souls is other than having build variety. I don't understand how one can be good and the other can be bad when the only real difference is one's 2d and one's 3d.
The reason hollow knight is bad is that the attacks are so simple to memorize, you do it first try. You get hit once or twice and then you heal and beat the boss first try. You miss half the visuals and the entire music cause one try is never enough to enjoy a fight. In dark souls it takes multiple tries to memorize the attacks of a boss and that makes the attacks unique and challenging. Through trial and error you get to like the boss, enjoy the music and feel accomplishment for beating it in the end. Hollow Knight bosses have nothing like that. I understand the creators wanted everyone to beat the game easily and enjoy it but unfortunately it's too easy for people that learn fairly fast.
@@shscreamHK has a bunch of stuff that many players will never be able to finish. If you think the worst aspect of the game is that it’s too easy, you’re either just incredible at games and everything must be boring for you, or you haven’t seen the insane crap at the end and don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@shscream if you beat the pantheons, nkg, pure vessel, radiance or absrad on your first try getting hit once or twice you're the best gamer to ever live.
@@christopherlundgren1700 I love HK, and completely disagree.
HK does not push difficulty. No boss forces you to use shadow cloak. No boss makes you use double jump. No boss requires you to use charms to help deal with whatever they do. No boss makes you use a spell.
HK is an accessible metroidvania, and there are lots of 2D metroidvanias (especially made after HK's amazing success) that are substantially harder, for people who are looking for that kind of experience. I found HK extremely easy, and that's including p5 gauntlet, absolute radiance, etc. There's literally nothing wrong with that, I think the atmosphere, sound effects, polish, and overall good movement system is more than enough to make it a great game for me
You need shadow dash for radiance and traiotor lord.@@sas911
Watching rarran heal and then immediately take damage is too relatable.
"Game bad because bosses not annoying enough" is certainly an opinion you're allowed to have, but HK's main point isn't the boss fights anyways. They are an aspect and there are more challenging bosses later down the line if you stick with it, but there's so much to appreciate about the game and discounting the sum for a part feels like selling it short.
I think its for people excepting a souls like game but 2D, but this is a metroidvenia.
I mean the main point kind of is the bosses, the bosses are what make the game great. The combat and the amazing bosses and pantheons are what make hollow knight a great game, apart from the first playthrough's story and stuff, but the bosses are definitely a huge factor.
@@hen618 no? You could remove all bosses, and it would still be a great game.
@@Spellweaver5 not really, there wouldn't be much to look forward to and there would be nothing to grind towards when u are done the game. Also what is "no?", are u asking me no? Then why the fuck are u using a question mark
@@hen618 the bosses are good but the exploration is really the key. The exploration is out of this world and is a much stronger selling point than the bosses. It always felt like everything about the game was great but the main focus of the whole game was exploration. The exploration is what makes it great. It’s why people spend hours and hours. It’s because they can’t stop exploring. The exploration is the key part of that gameplay loop. Constantly exploring every nook and cranny of hollownest is rewarded more than anything else and that’s why it’s the most key part. Most abilities are found from exploring. There are far more items, abilities, health buffs, and mana buffs found purely from exploration than there are from bosses and geo combined
The strongest aspect of the game is the exploration and atmosphere but some people are just so dull in their feelings, they can't just enjoy it no matter what they do. If you cannot enjoy these aspects of the game, you'll only look at the mechanics of the game which are usually very simple. Similar to how musicians appreciate and go crazy when there is an intricate and impressive part on a song playing but other people just drool and look with empty eyes saying "so that's it?". I've been drawing for years and every time a new scene loads in hollow knight i stop and appreciate the amazing art direction and quality of the game, you just overlook every detail and focus on the bosses. If you want hard bosses this game has plenty in the endgame content.
Edit: Also realized you are basically using soul as healing only which means your playstyle is "hit with nail > heal when low > repeat" this is fine for most things but it feels extremely boring playing like this. This is like playing titanfall 2 without wallrunning and double jumps. Base game is easy as it should be, but if you want harder content, that's in the game, you just didn't look for it, you might enjoy the bosses there.
Yes. I'm casual gamer but I liked HK, DS and elden ring so much for there world.
because it's way more logical for a new player to use the soul only on heal and not on spells, it's also more effective tbh
I noticed that you utilized very little spells during the combat, which removes the risk reward system that focus has: do you use spells to deal more damage or do you save it for heals when you get hit. Using spells speeds up the fights and promotes the player to be more aggressive against the bosses, since more sword hits give you back the focus you used on spells. Glad you still enjoyed the game as a whole, even if some fights felt too monotonous :]
He basically only used it for heals and then said the fights were boring and repetitive… no shit if you do the exact same thing every rotation of swinging your sword for pitiful poking damage
@@AvocadoTheBugCatbut that's what people don't get about games. If you want me to use spells, MAKE ME DO IT. Why didn't any of the 45+ hollow knight bossfights have a shield or armor that needed a spell to be dispelled. Why did they make 45+ bossfights able to be beaten only with the sword. I beat every boss first and second try without using any spells cause it was never needed. My mindset was always "alright I ll use sword until it's too tough and a boss moves so much a spell is needed" but it never happened. 45 whole bossfights ended second try with the sword. You should make it needed as a creator for the player to use spells, not expect him to start spamming spells at first try against a new boss...
@@shscream wait, did you defeat the true final boss WITHOUT using any spells?
@@shscream Well, you don't have to use spells if you don't want to. But if I give you a box full of toys, you pick up only the racecar and then you complain about how it's boring when you refuse to interact with any of the other options available to you to give you variety, then it's entirely on you.
@@shscreamThat’s a good idea that some games have; yet, in other games -including the ones similar to Dark Souls- they provide you with multiple items and magic that give you a sense of liberty and style. You may choose to not use them at all or you may want to use them, which makes the fights more interesting. That’s why it is weird that someone says a game has a boring and repetitive combat system when they only use the standard attacks, which is what we’re noticing here, for instance.
You're on record saying League of Legends is a good game. I don't think anyone cares
But didn't he in the video say he liked the game?
The title and thumbnail are clickbait, watch the last minute of the video. He thinks HK is excellent now
And tbf League itself is pretty good, it’s the community that’s terrible
It doesn't matter if he likes it or not I just don't think league fans should have opinions
True and based league fans should shut up.
Cheel bro !! Every one as there opinion and we must respect it ! Even if they are obviously Bad....
Rarran, the Hollow Knight being free is THE ENTIRE POINT.
"The fights we're repetitive"
Says the guy that *purpousefully* does every fight nail only to stall are you fucking kidding me
Personally. I think alot of it when it came to bosses. Its less of an actual boss battle and more of a dance. There are some bosses that if you know their routine, you can effortlessly kill them. My favorite being the mantis village. It doesnt feel like a battle. It felt like I was dancing, nail meeting steel. If you ever do godhood. The sisters of battle is amazing as it really does become a blade dance. Every boss is like that and thats what I like about it
I don't think rarran ever figured out how to pogo enemies. Honestly it's such an important mechanic that he just completely missed...
Rarran is expecting a boss ai that adjust to your playstyle and pumps out a different attack set every time he dies.
every single boss in every game is just learn what they do and pass the skill checks. thats literally what a boss is.
Nah, other options exist like letting you react to attacks instead of learning patterns, using puzzles, use new/newly applied mechanics, make use of the enviroment, ...
Not just that, a definition that I think is more fitting is that bosses are a bigger challenge for the player to overcome most of the times as a stronger enemy, games like darkest dungeon have bosses but they don't fall in the learn what they do and pass skill checks
But hollow knight moves are so easy that you learn during first try and beat it first try, that's the issue. It has nothing surprising. The ground doesn't break in any of the 45 bossfights, no surprise extra bosses appear, no curse effect that instakills you happens, no darkness or lights out effect happens in any of the fights. Like imagine nosk making everything dark for a while, but nope. So it's so easy you learn every boss' moves after getting hit twice so you just heal and beat it first try. It's not exciting.
@@shscream about the lights out part... one boss does darken the screen when you fight it.
@@shscream There are two fights where the ground literally breaks, and another where parts of the ground becomes spikes. Surpirse extra boss appearance also is something that happens in Pantheon 1 and 5. "No curse effect that instakills you": thank god, because that would be horrible game design.
Rarran passed the skillchecks in melee category, but when it comes to using spells....
I think Rarran's main issue with bosses comes down to his playstyle. For myself personally, I'm impatient and always try to rush a boss, no matter how many times I have fought it. Rarran on the other hand never made an attempt to hit enemies multiple times in a cycle and would go completely on the defensive until a move with an obvious opening was used. I think Rarran would actually love fighting the bosses if he was to force himself to beat them in shorter time and is maybe something the devs should have considered enforcing as it does seem pretty boring fighting most of the bosses when you are as patient as Rarran is in the video.
Rarran's playstyle for Hollow Knight is probably the best playstyle for gamers who have never played a difficult game before ever. I don't just mean Hollow Knight. ( Insert difficult game here ) and this hypothetical person has never played it
Hey Rarran love your Hearthstone content and was thrilled to see you cover this game! I usually don't leave comments but as a fellow Souls enjoyer think you would really benefit from doing some of the harder optional bosses to counteract your disappointment with the fights. I had a similar reaction when playing through but was blown away by the difficulty and experience of the more challenging hidden fights (especially nightmare king Grimm). Please Please Please cover that fight I would love to see your attempts and thoughts on it. Thanks, keep up the good work!
My man out here using Baldur's Shell in the year of our lord 2023. This is often the complaint of players who dont use all their tools, In fights that are "monotonous" you neglect to use the spells and movement capabilities that make the fight A) easier and B) faster.
The bosses being too easy wasn't the criticism I was expecting but I guess Rarran is just suffering from being a god gamer
He was a challenger in LoL if I remember right
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 Gahdamn. Just known him as a card game guy so didn't realize he had these kinda mechanics
and from not going off of the beaten road
It's interesting how different people find different things dificult. I had way more problems with hollow knight than I had with the souls games, and that's not even just talking about the hard bosses you didn't do.
I was waiting for so long to see the end live, but I guess i missed it lol.
Also it’s sad that you didn’t play the Grimm troupe dlc because it has my personal favourite boss.
"you only learn what they do and doge every thing else" man that every boss in every game even the souls games
Really excited for this vid! It’s always a pleasure to see someone’s first experience playing these sorts of games
I haven’t had a chance to sit down and watch this through but I keep coming back. Loving your experience so far!
It's bait
Yeh clickbait title and thumbnail cause he actually liked the game.
I really hope you continue you play through past the first ending. There is so much more to see, so many better bosses and challenges, a very deep lore
I do hope you'll go and play more of the game, it was fun to watch you play and struggle your way through. I always enjoy watching someone enjoy the journey like I did.
A lot of people are going to say you are wrong. Because you are. But thank you for sharing your opinion because it’s valuable and as a developer myself I think it will lead to better games. Don’t let the haters get you! And Thank you!
Did you watch the video?
@@BombaJeadI watched the beginning and I saw mean comments so I wanted to throw in some positivity. Having finished it I stand by what I said although I could have worded it differently. +the part about being wrong was always meant to be taken as a joke. Lol
@@BombaJead i watched it fully and the comment is completely right
@@MsPoiko I mean the "2D game" argument it's quite shitty xD
@@falopa7666 read both my comment and the comment i am responding, i think u are misunderstanding me
Jarvis, type 'skill issue' and hit enter
I really enjoyed seeing it both on stream and in this video form. And I am glad that Failed Champion beating you hard is shown at least a little bit 😂
The base game is meant to be easier and accessible and if players want more they should/will seek out the harder content like the dlc which might be hard to find on your own but it's 100% worth it even going for the game's true ending is a nicer challenge but it's not dark souls so i wouldn't really expect a dark souls experience from anything but the dlc bosses since this is a metroidvania where combat and such is usually not the top focus but if you wanted a harder metroidvania ive heard blasphemous is great but not sure yt would like it without censoring? Great video and glad you clarified your wording in the comments
"The bosses are too easy."
*laughs in Absolute Radiance*
he should try the radiance and absolute radiance😅
I can appreciate the attempt to like it and even agree with the simplicity of bosses unless we're talking way late game, if the late game was the whole game then hollowknight would seriously deserve every cent of praise.. the radiance will probably stay as one of the coolest bosses I've ever seen.
I think you did a very good job of portraying your thoughts and I am glad you enjoyed this game, you deserved that. I am one of these people who love Hollow Knight and I really liked your video. Stay strong king!
maybe metroidvanias just arent for everyone. Ori was also overhyped but i dont like it while hollow knight is one of my GOATs. Ori 2 is actually good tho.
Yes the boss fights you did were pretty easy. I think if you would go for 100% you would encounter more challenging bosses which also help you embrace the combat system :)
Would like to see 112 % and pantheon 5 on top that :). The fifth pantheon is the final thing I have left on my main save and it is rough, really rough
@@johanandersson9208 ikr, I have beaten like almost every boss radiant but I can't beat the 5th pantheon, by the time I reach Absolute radiance I only have like 3 hp left
@@sebatsionEEEthe first time I beat p5 I use an aggressive built until pure vessel, then I changed my charm with quick slash, shape of unn, deep focus and a charm that you want to be able to cure in almost every radiance attack. Try this strat a few times against absolute radiance and it should be free. (btw when you reach absolute radiance you get healed)
@@johanandersson9208 i can breeze through all of pantheon 4 but then i die to pure vessel 💀 (nvm i just beat pure vessel)
funny part is the easiest way to kill most mobs is to use spells i think the best example are the watcher knight (these rolling guys) you can use spell to damage couple of them and it makes fights faster and more things are happening during them
I love how his favorite boss is the one that is just a long ass double boss
love how Rarran absolutley hates the tri-shot bugs, and forgets that he has a ranged option via spells
Tell me you haven't played video games without telling me you haven't played video games the video
Wait you didn’t do the pantheon boss rushes where the hardest bosses in the game were? Sick you really have a good opinion on the bosses in this game
damn i hope he does grimm and the true ending, also suprising he found the bosses to be repetitive or tedious when a lotta people love the bosses for being unique
i loved watching this live, thoroughly enjoyed the vid
The real hard bosses are in the post end game/ true Ending with things like the Radiance, true radiance and dream bosses. The mainline bosses are there to act as a challenge for less experienced players for whom it might be the first metroidvania
“The game is easy.” *dies tons of times*
Thanks for making this video, I absolutely love hollow knight and it is interesting that your opinion is very divergent with mine and many other players. Thanks rarran for making so many entertaining videos
Love ya ❤
the editing is just golden
The hadouken got me laughing so hard 😂😂
Love to see you playing different things! Waiting for more of that mr rarran
I really like this type of video :) hope u do more even if it doesnt do so good in comparison
"bosses too easy" *doesnt even touch godhome*
@Rarran As a souls enthousiast i have to say i really enjoyed hollow knight. Did you do everything? Because the dream bosses are kinda challenging and the true ending pure vessel is though and the parcours...i mean there are a lot of secrets in this game and the game doesn't wan't you to find them. It's easy to beat the game once but not so much to complete it.
Loved the video maybe you can give Blasphemous also a shot but i think that's also going to be an easy one for you.
Idk bro, inscryption dropped hollow knight bad, idk bro
"This games bosses are too simple and repetive. Dark souls bosses are too hard and takes hours to beat." So what you want??
Bro did NOT play the game after he beat the hollow knight with only 60% game completion 💀
I hope you come back to the game to finish out some of the hardest bosses and challenges I believe the gaming world has to offer, if you thought the watcher knights were hard, you truly are in for a treat from the hardest bosses in the game. Might not be dark souls level, but the satisfaction is pretty close.
Regardless it was very interesting to see you play a game so different from card games, and I hope you continue to branch out.
There are bosses that are significantly more challenging but are optional than the standard run done in the video.
That said yes they are still fundamentally learn move pattern, dodge, smack or spell, rinse and repeat.
This is a 10/10 game for me because the bosses are still challenging for someone who is not a routine gamer (for me at least) and the exploration, ambience, music, pacing, abilities, story and gameplay loop are flawless.
Cool video, I’ll definitely be subbing to the channel and hopefully if you decide to pick up the game again and run some of the harder content you may get the boss challenge you’re looking for. Thanks!
Really love the branch away from hearthstone, don’t get me wrong you’re content is great but I think your editing style and genuine reviews translates well to other game genres. Excited to see which game you tackle next.
I really appreciate the non HS content focusing on one of my favorite games, and form the pinned comment, I'm pretty sure you've already been told this but I think you'd love the DLC content, there is where the best boss fights are honestly.
I understand if this is your final content take on hollow knight, but I'd love to see you take on the pantheons. At least give it a try in your spare time
I beat Hollow knight and liked nothing about it. It always felt like a chore, not a game.
Love seeing one of my favourite HS streamers try this game, which i finally played through last winter. I lol'd that you ended with the hollow knight 'cause you missed the actual boss of the game. Didnt you notice hollow knight fighting itself?
Glad you liked it. I do recommend going for the TRUE final boss and doing the Grim troupe DLC but perhaps not on stream cause I think it kinda ruins the experience for you.
Not being lost in this game 😂 even with compass my first time I was super lost.
Rarran out here speedrunning the thumbnail change after seeing the comments
You like the exploring, traversal and impossible challanges, video idea, doing the delicate flower quest.
5:15 never seen a triple hornet pogo mid attack and I have seen a lot of speed runs. Well done Raran!
Ori and the will of the wisps is a crazy good metroid vania game.
Bold move Cotton
My favorite boss in the game and honestly where I feel they should have put the difficulty of the bosses in general would be Pure Vessel. I can highly recommend seeking him out, really fun fight.
That was my giving up point in this game. Pure Vessel crushed my spirit (and my carapace).
16:20 thats like every boss ever in any game . few atacks and change up in second phase
please continue playing, there is so much more to explore. Multiple different endings (which can be done in the same file) and a lot of new unique bosses and mechanics. Also if you liked the colosselum u might also like pantheons (pretty much the same but with bosses only)
Yo ngl on his second soul master attempt, he did so many lucky ass precise near frame perfect jumps lmao, he almost died so many times
you have got to do it 100%, there is a lot of exact stuff you are looking for upcoming. if youre looking for a challenge, you can attempt to 112% it, it may seem even to hard
Rarran literally missed the whole point of every boss that ever existed they are meant to have some pattern the player can learn to overcome thus kill the boss.
Man got ways to go for the real ending
i have no idea why but when he said haunted with spirits my scrren got corruped by someting black then it dissappeard
oh man, you've literally trampled a 'hornets' nest with this one (get it?).
I see that he also learnt to hate the Primordial Aspid.
I mean, yeah, boss fights would get pretty boring if you play them like a turn based game. Analyze the pattern and it gets easy. Just like how Ultrakill P-1/P-2 bosses get easy after you learn what their deal is.
Don't play Hollow Knight like dark souls. There's never a "your turn, my turn" situation in HK, you can always hit them. Well, that's how _I_ play HK. That's what I find fun about HK's bosses. Although they're fairly easy if you take your time, they don't make you wait to attack. That speed is what's fun.
i think HK's difficulty is a good balance. the mandatory stuff isn't too difficult, especially if you get upgrades and optimize your build. as a new player to the genre, i got stuck for 3 days on Hornet, but returning for a second playthrough i killed her first try, although i broke a sweat. with 150+ hours, i can beat her and her more difficult variant hitless consistently. same patern with White Palace pretty much.
on the other hand, you can just ignore upgrades and not even equip charms, since the game doesn't scale like your typical RPG, especially since enemy damage remains mostly between 1 and 2 per hit. there's also a ton of optionnal engame content, mostly for boss fights but also a platforming section.
learning boss movement to beat them once is one thing, learning how to beat them hitless, or multiple bosses in a row, is another entirely. that being said, it's a specific kind of enjoyement, and if you don't love the pattern recognition it's just not your cup of tea.
Love to watch you fighting The Radian.
I don't know if Rarran has already tried Sekiro but after reading his comment about DS bosses, it would be fun to watch him play Sekiro
Any game you can play for 8 hours straight is usually a good game
Will you do the Dream no more ending and try pantheon after that? I would love to see you trying do to this
Now its time for Outer Wilds. No game has ever moved me as much
I wonder if you'd prefer the bosses of a different Metroidvania like Metroid Dread or Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Time to beat Radiance!
You missed on a lot of crucial lore pillars.. you need to find the dreamers, they have will introduce a lot of new bosses and mini bosses.. and you have to explore the bottom of hollow nest.. for me the best boss i have is locked behind the grimm troupe dlc
I love your content rarran please continue making videos from games other than hearthstone