Violette de Bordeaux - An Anchor Fig For My Garden
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2018
- This video describes why the Violette de Bordeaux makes a great, must-have "anchor" fig for most gardeners.
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I started last year with 2-3 foot plants. A Chicago Hardy, a Brown Turkey, and 2 Celeste. My Celeste were the only ones to produce the first year. Just ordered 5 new strains for this year.
Thank so much for such a rich information you give, it really assure me to get one among too many varieties
Thanks for watching!
I just found my Violette de Bordeaux at Walmart for $9.95! I think I'm going back today to get two more, maybe more!
Great video, very informative and helpful.
I also have a VDB from berpee and it’s doing great.
I have a 4yo VDB in N. California. It is a beautiful tree and the fruit truly is exceptionally good. My ratio of main crop to Breba crop is about 10:1.
Tim C one day, I want to try a fresh fig off a tree in California. I can’t imagine how good they are. I have a horrible climate for fig growing and many of mine still stop me in my tracks. I imagine I would have to lie down eating yours.
just ordered a VDB and a Celeste, they should get here next week! These will be my very first fig trees bought for fruit production. I do have several other 'decorative' ficus trees in my houseplant collection. (F. religiosa, F. benghalensis, F. elastica, F. altissima, F. lyrata, etc). Planning on grouping them near my pomegranates that have done very well in my Z8b Arizona garden.
That was very interesting information on the history of fig trees,and about the VDB fig tree.
I am also happy you explained what some of the terminology of the tree meant,now I know what to expect from my tree.
Hope my tree grows to look healthy like yours.
I just purchased one from our local nursery here in Phoenix,[Shamus O Leary Tropicals]
Awesome video and info.
Thank you for sharing.👍🤗🌹
Thank you. I cut my tree in half over the winter to encourage branching, and it broke dormancy a couple weeks ago and is starting to send out side shoots. I’m looking forward to its first figs this summer!
I’ve heard of Shamus. I’ve seen him on other people’s channels. He has some cool things. I wish I had a nursery like that near me, but my climate is just too cold for anything really exciting.
@@TheMillennialGardener
My tree is the same size as your except it has only 2 tiny leaves at the top,and a lot of buds going down ,no branches yet..its a tall twig with fat buds and nice roots.!!😐
You can also have a nursery like Shamus,start a little at a time.
A lot of people here start with a backyard nursery/hobby.
Wish you could see some, they have about a hundred small trees they collected cuttings,air layered,ordered off Ebay rooted etc.
People sell them at a reasonable price make nice profit,to buy more.
Looks like you have an awesome yard to get started.If you have the cuttings/plants they will come to buy..😀dream big you only live once.👍What you say with your mouth is what will be, that's how dreams get into motion.🤗😁🍊🍇🍎🌳🍉👍😊.
I’d have to have a greenhouse. We have 30-40 freezes a year here, and usually 2-3 nights in the teens, so without a heated greenhouse, you’re toast unfortunately.
If your fig is waking up and you’re clear from frost danger, I’d recommend hitting it with fish emulsion. It is high in nitrogen, so that will wake it up and jumpstart green growth. Just be sure to back off the nitrogen once it is time for figs to begin formation. High concentrations of nitrogen will promote leaf growth and steal energy from fruit production. When it is time to fruit, switch to low nitrogen fertilizers that are higher in phosphorous and potassium.
Jack Walton I have a video on fertilizing here:
ruclips.net/video/msbnT2zhZIc/видео.html
It has worked out very well.
Keep up the great videos! Just subscribed!
Thank you! Glad to have you along for the ride.
Greenhouse time !
Nice presentation
I enjoyed your talking bush.
Thanks for watching!
You’re really making me want to get some dog trees. The problem is I would want to plant them in the ground and we don’t own the house we are in right now. You’re making it worse by showing us one that grows well in containers. You’re such an enabler 😂
Hope you’re doing good and see ya on the next one ☺️
zeppypaige don’t let logic stop you! Get yourself a little tree, or a few cuttings. Truthfully, all figs grow well in containers, but just like any plant, some do better than others. At this point you’ll want to wait til the spring to buy a plant (or you could spend the winter rooting cuttings indoors) but definitely put it on your list for next year. I love figs, and they’re so hard to find and the season so short.
I’m really thinking about it. Thanks for the encouragement ☺️
I enjoy your videos! Thanks for providing them! I have learned a lot from them! I was raised in Wilmington ! We lived where the Harley Davidson dealership is now! In fact it is sitting almost exactly where our house sat! I left in 1958 for the draft and only came back to visit. Drop me
Glad you like them! Where did you move to? So many people have moved into the area since I moved here in 2017. It's astounding the population growth.
I just had my first main crop VDB yesterday and I wasn’t impressed with the taste. I may have a really high expectation for it since there are so many videos out there that rave about this fig. I bought it as a matured tree toward the end of last year and it went through some stress with the location change. I brought it from hot San Ramon,CA to foggy and cold San Francisco. First matured fig is beginning of October and I thought this is supposed to be a early variety? I may have picked it too early since it was already drooping from the neck. I can’t wait for more to ripen. Thanks for all these informative videos.
Nice video. I now have one in Feb 2020 the same size and age as yours (when u did this video back in '18) and was wondering when it will start to produce figs. Looks like i have 1 year to go.
Thanks
Joe Rappa I had a bumper crop last year. Every inch of the tree had a fig. It was absolutely loaded. This is a very productive variety.
This is my VDB second season in a 15 gallon size container and no figs yet. I’m in Florida, zone 9b.
Usually, they fruit within the same year in most cases, unless it's a tissue culture, which could take an additional season. You may want to follow my series on fertilizing: ruclips.net/p/PL1gY7BoYBGIFNbJEUdApbh_E57uNBLG2j
I don't have much room (or proper climate) for outdoor crops, so I love to grow tomatoes and all sorts of things indoors. Do you think it would be possible to take a variety like this and pinch it enough (and put it in an air root pruning type of pot) so that it would produce some fruit, but also be very small like a bonsai?
Absolutely. Look into Ben B. Seattle. He grows figs and bonsai. Most figs are parthenocarpic - they set fruit without pollination - so they'll perform fine indoors if you give them enough heat and light. Choosing figs that do well in cooler climates would probably do better. Again, Ben is in Seattle, so what does well for him will probably do better indoors since you're not going to get 90 degree heat inside your house.
How did you prune this tree to make it grow so tall?
Any vids on Ronde de Bordeaux?
I actually just put an order in for two of these and an LSU purple... a Shangri La mulberry... and a Illinois Everbearing mulberry. Just got a house on an acre in Elizabeth city, NC. These will be my initial staple trees as well due to simple maintenance and disease resistance once established. Zone 8A. Now I just need to wait for a panache fig... and some fire blight resistant pears and apples.... and some brown rot resistant peaches. Actually... my entire yard is still a mud hole on the new home. Lol. Planting grass and trees soon.
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Sounds like a nice plot of land, congrats! I would recommend you trial your figs in containers for a year before you put them in-ground, though. A lot of figs struggle here due to the rain and humidity in the summer (they’re from the Mediterranean where summers are rainless). Panache is a great fig, but it is notorious for splitting and rotting in humidity. You don’t want to use space until you’re sure it can handle our rains.
If you can’t get Panache to work in our climate, you can look into Martinenca Rimada and Col de Dame Rimada, which have a similar look with better rain resistance.
@@TheMillennialGardener I have not yet had the chance to read up on those varieties. AKA I am new and have never heard of them before. I will read up on them. Thank you!
Jack Walton there are so many varieties of figs, even just common figs, that I probably don’t know of 90+% of them. All you can do is research, research, research and try and see if others have been successful in your climate. I estimate nearly any fig will do well in Zone 8.
@@TheMillennialGardener That is true. Just make sure the micro climate is right and that the trees are planted properly based on precipitation, heat, and soil type for your area.
I am going to put mine directly into the ground when I get them(8a). Setting the soil/and hole up to only hold a certain amount of water in the organic matter before letting the rest of the water run away. Not allowing it to pool underground... I have dense/fine clay.
I just received a Violette de Bordeaux fig in a 3 gallon pot. I’m wondering if I should plant it now or in the spring. I’m in Zone 7a. If I wait until the spring, should I keep it indoors or in my garage(now around 40•) for now? Thanks!
Definitely wait until the spring. It will almost certainly get killed now. In fact, even after it establishes, in Zone 7a, chances are, the tree will get killed down to the ground every year unless you wrap it or protect it somehow. Generally, temperatures 15F or colder will damage the wood, and single digits will likely kill it to the roots if exposed. Wrapping them in 7a is advisable.
Does ur vdb rust alot? Im in miami 10b and it rusts up like crazy. I switched it over to rdb which is better on the rust.
Yes, my VdB had one of my worst cases of rust. It is completely defoliated, but my season is over at this point. Surprisingly, my most resistant fig has been my Black Madeira. It is one of the least affected. The Col de Dame’s have done well with rust, too. Next year, I am going to try sulfur dust. I couldn’t use it this year because I applied neem and pyrethrin early in the season, and you cannot use sulfur dust if your leaves have been in contact with oil-based sprays 1-2 months prior. Next year, I will not use any oil sprays and start with sulfur powder from the beginning. It is supposed to prevent rust. It is also a miticide, so it prevents Fig Mosaic Virus as well. I’ll use the wettable sulfur as a regular treatment.
How did your Violette de Bordeaux do with the 3 feet of rain we have had this summer in 2021 in SE NC? Mine was growing like crazy. Then it got rust and lost most of it's leaves and no fruit.
My Violette de Bordeaux has been a terrible performer every season. It sets an incredible amount of fruit, I get 2-4 really good figs in the beginning and it always makes me think it's going to have a good year, and then it always develops problems with the other fruits. I don't think it handles this climate well at all. It's always a magnet for flies, wasps and the fruits fail to ripen properly.
I just placed an order for 5 CUTTINGS Fig LIVE Tree Black Madeira fig Figo Preto Fig Heirloom Ficus carica from Portugal......Wish me luck.
That listing looks familiar. I am very wary of eBay figs. Many are scams. It's so easy because it takes 2-3+ years before you know you've been scammed by the time the fig roots and the trees grow large enough to bear fruit. It is illegal to send plants from another country in the US, so there is a good chance it'll be seized by Customs and never reach you. If it does reach you, it'll likely be a scam and it'll take 2-3 years to find out it isn't what you paid for. When you purchase figs, I recommend figbid.com and to avoid ebay. Cross-reference every seller with the forum ourfigs.com. Every reputable seller that is selling legit fig cuttings, for the most part, has an account on ourfigs.com, or is verified by them. Don't buy any cutting from anyone not on that website, or vouched for by users. I recommend cross-referencing the seller you just bought from on ourfigs.com. Hopefully, I am incorrect.
If you want a UCD Black Madeira, Just Fruits and Exotics has them in stock, but they want $150 a plant plus shipping. Hope this helps.
I will try to cancel the order. Thanks.
Raul Jimenez backcheck the user versus the ourfigs.com forum before you do. It could be legit, I just have my doubts. Especially with US Customs.
Is there much difference between the VdB and a Chicago Hardy?
Yes, they are two very distinctly different varieties. They look very different, and flavors are reported to be very different. I haven’t tried them yet, but I’ll know in a couple months.
Not too important, but maybe say Vee-olette with the French pronunciation. It suits it better and it deserves it. Your videos are invaluable and I look forward to all of my figs' second season in hot Las Vegas valley.
That, to me, is like walking into a Chipotle and ordering a quesadilla with a Spanish accent, but only on the word "quesadilla." I'm from New Jersey, not France. It always sounds silly to me to fake an accent I don't have on one random word.
@@TheMillennialGardener You have apoint, but the emphasis is not on an accent, but a correct pronounciation. i.e like calling La Jolla, CA with a hard J. Either way, it's a great fig and I appreciate your response.
#TheMillennialGardener Hello and Thank You for the excellent mini videos and the education you provide us! I have 3 violate de Bordeaux fig trees I bought them here in London United Kingdom about 2 months ago but I think next year will bring me a few nice figs! I paid for each fig tree including the tubs and the delivery 28 dollars and they are 1️⃣ meter tall, what do you think?
I have followed you for a while now and I keep learning a lot from your videos. Keep it like that, and I am grateful to you! God Bless you, man 🙏🙏🙏
Hello friend just be curious my VDB leave look different then the one u have show in the video, I bought my tree from organic garden . is there only one VDB my leaves have at least 5 lobe
VdB has two types of leaves. They have the typical 5-lobe leaves and the spade-type leaves. That's one of the giveaway characteristics of the VdB. If you give your tree enough time, it should produce both if it's a true VdB. It took my tree several months to make both types of branches, but eventually it showed both styles.
There’s a cutting selling for over $600 on figbid today.
The fig wasp was introduced into CA in the late 1800's and since then, they've established pretty well. Because of the fig wasp, figs pollinate in CA, so people go hunting for wild figs, there. Sometimes, there are these "hot new figs" that people find growing in the wild that people pay crazy amounts for. It's funny, because someone will pay $600 the first year, $100 the second year and $20 the third year. I'll wait 😂
hi i want to ask. I live in the tropical with 88temperature My Violet de bordeaux in 13galon container fruit before but they didnot grow complete and fall , now this is the second time is giving fruit and i think it will happend the same my leave are getting light green on the top and curling on the borders but no rust or mold on the leave the botton leave were no fruit is been develop the leave look fine and normal green any idea?
It's hard to say what the problem is without seeing a picture, but what you're describing sounds like either the tree is getting too much water and the roots are staying too wet on the bottom, the tree isn't getting *enough* water and is suffering drought stress, or you aren't fertilizing enough. It sounds, to me, like there is a problem with the watering schedule and not enough food. How often are you fertilizing, and are you letting the container dry out *OR* keeping it too saturated?
@@TheMillennialGardener Thank for replaying!! Well about watering i can say is 50by 50 not to dry no to wet but when it rain i let it with out watering like 2 day i think. Fertilizing im not that good i may say like a i fertilize every 1.5 month with a 24-8-16 npk . What make me confuse is that the issue only affect the branches that is producing fruit the ones that arent they look dark natural green and no issue i can see.
Interesting question but can you plant these as a houseplant? (Specifically the Violette De Bordeaux)
Figs need a lot of sun and heat to produce ripe fruit. It is the heat that creates the sugars. While it may be possible to grow figs indoors, figs that fruit in cool temps have very little flavor. You may be able to do it, but the figs won’t be good quality (if it fruits at all). I would not recommend it. Figs need a strong warm season. In fact, it is one of the few fruits that thrive in the desert. 100 degree temps and dry conditions produce incredible fruit. They’re Mediterranean after all, and Mediterranean climates have hot, rainless summers and cool, wet winters.
Many people grow them in containers due to their cold winter climates. You can bring them indoors after your first hard freeze and bring them outside after frost risk has passed. They’re deciduous, so they’d drop leaves all over your house. It is best to let the leaves drop outside.
Would you say the VDB and the Negronne are the same? There's conflicting info everywhere I look.
I do not have Negronne, so I cannot compare them side by side. My advice would be, even if they *aren't* the same, if they're so incredibly similar that there is controversy, you don't need both. To me, it isn't worth wasting space on varieties that are too similar when there is so much variety out there.
How many gallons is those tubes ?
How big do they grow if planted in grown?
Unpruned, fig trees can grow to be 20-30 feel tall. I recommend pruning fig trees pretty hard every year, because they respond very well to harder pruning and to maintain a smaller stature (unless you want a large shade tree).
We’re would I purchase one of these fig trees? Thanks
Martha West I got mine from Burpee’s website.
Oh wow okay , I just never heard of some of these.
Martha West there are thousands of varieties. Because of the way figs hybridize, every naturally occurring fig tree is different. A lot of these figs were passed on by families in the Mediterranean. The only way to clone them is to take cuttings and root them.
How many fig variety now that has been identified around the world?
Teddy Rosadi I don’t think that number is known. There are so many varieties the US doesn’t even identify that other countries have. So many varieties that are believed to be “unique” aren’t, and so many unknown varieties have never been identified. I’ve heard figures in the 750-1000 range. The real answer is A LOT, haha.
Wow... A LOT is a huge number... he.he.he..
What are your top ten figs variety so far?
Teddy Rosadi that is a good question. I have not even tried ten different varieties of figs in my life. I am making my decisions through a lot of reading and videos from experienced growers. All I can tell you are my plans.
I own 2 fig varieties: Lattarula Italian Honey and Violette de Bordeaux. I am definitely putting VdB in the ground. Lattarula will be containered til I can taste it and see if I like it enough to keep. I can probably only fit 5-6 varieties in-ground in my area due to my yard size, so I must be judicious with what makes the cut.
I would like to obtain the following varieties:
- Smith
- Black Madeira (KK is preferred)
- Bordissot Negra Rimada
- Figo Preto
- I-258
- Col de Dame Noir
- Ronde de Bordeaux
- Olympian
- White Madeira
- Raspberry Latte
From there, I would like to narrow them down. My opinions may change, and I could add or subtract. The VdB and the Smith will likely be automatically planted in-ground due to their reputation for reliability in the southeast and outstanding flavor.
That is my plan as of now, but it could be difficult to obtain a lot of these varieties, if not impossible.
OK, so check this out. when i was in the military, I traveled thru-out the Middle East, Far East, as well as South America, Africa, Australia, Europe, and the Pacific Islands. Hundreds of towns and villages, one thing that I remembered that was very common, was that where there were fig trees, most were the same "rare" varieties found in other countries. There was nothing rare about them. So....... when I read what the so-called "self-proclaimed experts" say on this web site about figs,,, it makes me wonder who are the people that follow these clowns?
But that variety is not heavy bearing.
Vdb? It's a very heavy bearer. All figs are provided you give them enough fertilizer. If you are struggling with production, I recommend you watch my series on fertilizing figs: ruclips.net/p/PL1gY7BoYBGIFNbJEUdApbh_E57uNBLG2j
Holy cow! What is all that background noise? This would be a great video if not for all the tree chopping in the background. Can't hardly concentrate on what's being said...
you should talk less than this