Violette de Bordeaux Figs | VDB Fig Tree
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2021
- When people talk about their favorite fig varieties, many come to mind. Today we're trying one of the varieties that probably makes nearly every top 5 list out there. The Violette de Bordeaux fig.
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Just subscribed…thanks for a direct, no nonsense, free of chatter and wild music video; a true sign of professionalism. I just planted a Violette de Bordeaux today here in Southern CA, zone 10. We’re having a very odd, mild autumn here that feels more like summer won’t let go. I took the chance this fig will fill its roots out enough before our usual mild winter takes hold.
Glad you enjoyed this one. We've been very impressed with how well this tree has done over the last year. I think you'll find it does well in the SoCal climate. I (Duane) was born and raised in Gardena, so I'm very familiar with that growing area. Even if that cold snap happens soon, you should be just fine with this fig tree.
Long live Edge of Nowhere Farm! Great tour today both of you….and no…..Duane didnt talk too much lol
Hey Eric! Man, it was great to finally meet your in person today. I just wish we had more time to chat. Felt like meeting an old friend.
Hi, Duane. I never get sick of that fly-over of your Farm and I just love figs. I know what sort I'll be planting when (and if) I get some land to plant. The last time I had tasty figs was,,,,so many years ago. A neighbour of ours had three directly planted in his large chicken yard. Hmm the tastiest figs ever - huge and dark plum in colour.
PS. Hello to the Camera Lady.
Hey Carolle! I imagine those figs had some amazing flavor being fertilized directly by the those chickens. It's really hard to beat a fresh fig from the tree!
No, not another fig variety that I have to get. Just playing, we are fig fanatics and may need this one to add to our fig collection, and thank you for sharing.
Hey Daniel! Yes, this is definitely one to have on the list. Even at just a year old it's pushing a solid crop...and we didn't follow our own advice and let this one fruit! We just had to try these out!
What a beautiful plant. The fruit looks amazing.
We've been very pleased with how well this variety performs. Supposedly they're less aggressive with growth than other varieties, but we haven't found that to be the case!
My VDB grew 5 delicious fruit in its first 8 months. Also grew over 6 ft. Almost 2 in thick branches.
They are very tasty, and that is fantastic growth on a new tree! You should get a great fruit set next year!
Ive never been a huge Fig fan. But those were DELICIOUS!!! 🤯
I know, right? I wish we had a ripe Panache for you guys to try. They are top notch as well and a bit larger than these.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I guess than will mean another trip out to the Edge Of Nowhere in the future! 😁
Best fig variety. My favorite variety in my yard
It's really something. What other varieties are you growing?
Where is “tropical Arizona”…..?
If so cal does not change course…I’m out of here….!
@@offgridmangogrower Phoenix, AZ.
@@DOC_AZ thanks….another slogan is the “banana belt”
During our land search…I thought it was a section along the colo. river.
We chased our land search dream from the borrego desert to n San Diego…
The Sudan grass is getting super tall. Y’all ever find snakes in there?
It's starting to wind down a bit with the cooler weather, but it has done really well for us. You know, I'm sure there are snakes in there, but we haven't come across one....yet!
I’m convinced that the over the top amazing flavor and texture of Violette de Bordeaux are the reason it is so popular, because the size is definitely a negative. It’s one of my absolute favorites. I think, at least for the figs in my collection, the only one I like better is Panache.
Jared, we're on EXACTLY the same page. We were discussing that with these Fall varieties last year and it was a real toss-up between the Panache and VDB for us as well. Great, berry-tasting figs.
this was helpful, thanks!
Glad you found this one useful!
Can't wait to taste the figs from mine. I planted mine in April of this year. It is about 2 ft tall now.
You're really going to love this fruit. Still one of our top choices!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I hope so. Just picked some Brown Turkeys for the day!
Any chance I could get a cutting when you prune? Looks like an amazing tree.
Great question and we're working on that. I don't know if we can figure that out this year, but that should be coming. Be sure to join our customer email list through our website as that is how we will announce that.
I planted a Violette de Bordeaux over a year ago in NW Florida and was amazed
by seeing how much yours has grown in 1 year. Mine has not done nearly as well
What are your watering, fertilization recommendations?
I have to admit, we've been surprised by it's growth as well. It's not growing at the same rate today, but it still puts on a couple of feet of new growth a year that we trim back each season. We need to irrigate often here in the desert as we rarely get any rainfall and most of the year we're in low double digit humidity (sometimes single digit!). For us that's 60 gallons of water once/week during the growing season. We also fertilize consistently with composted manure. We apply in February, May and September.
I have a VDB (little Miss Figgy) in a pot. It produced very large fruit this past spring and summer, so maybe your tree just needs a bit more time. I am in Zone 8a in the South East.
Ooh, that is a VERY good sign. We've seen something similar with a few other varieties, so I'm hoping you're right with this one!
Thanks, I have one growing but I need to move it...or graft it out into a sunnier spot
If there's a way to keep it and take a cutting that's what I would do. If not, they can transplant pretty well if moved when they're dormant.
Been waiting for this video for a year :D
On a side note, did you have any issues with VdB wilting in the summer heat even when watered? I heard someone claim they had that habit above 105. Never was able to tell if that was real or not
Hey Joseph, glad you enjoyed this one! We've been looking forward to this as well. It muscled through the summer as well as the rest of the figs. At the peak of summer when we get above 115 they all tend to struggle a bit, but this one no worse than the rest.
I love fruit trees because I love fruit>I have kumquat,cherry, apple, plum, mulberry and pawpaw,lemon, ice cream bean, strawberry tree, black sapote and blackberry jam fruit trees>>The figs are a new for me>>Namely the VIOLETTE DE BORDEAUX brought me here because She is the only one I have>>Adding 10 new varieties to my garden >>>I will see what happens and what doesn't..I am in zone 6 and as you can see>>>ADDICTED to growing from seed lol
Wow, you have quite the fruit forest growing there in Zone 6, that's impressive! You're really going to love the VDB. Especially if you add some humidity to the mix which we're missing here. Yours will be much more sugary!
Duane I love your channel and I was wondering where do you get your wood chips from? Because I want to get my own land some day like you.
Glad you're enjoying the content. Most of the chips we have now are from 2 sources that we found through Chip Drop. The key with chip drop is to take pretty much anything they're willing to bring and be willing to pay for that first delivery. After that, make a friend! :)
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thank you so much for the reply!
My VDB ripened for me in Sep/Oct in Wilmington, DE. It is potted, and I take it out in late April. So, I would have expected yours to start ripening it figs in Aug or even late July. Perhaps it will do as the tree matures.
Hey Ahmad. I'm wondering if that will be the case for us as well. Young trees tend to be mavericks when it comes to fruiting, so that may very well be the case.
Fast growing trees is selling a 1 gal vdb. I think it'll do well in a pot in Las Vegas. I also have a mission fig in a pot that just budded.
You should snag that tree. It should do really well for you there!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm TY I'm going to. My plan is an Italian Medit dry desert backyard. I will plant he pomegranate tree, but the figs remain in pots.
Have you experimented with pruning the tip of the fruiting branch to reduce the fruit production to increase the size of the fruit? I have the tree and was thinking of trying that.
We haven't done that before, but I have seen folks have very good success with that technique.
Thank you for sharing this great video 🎉. Can you ship to Vietnam? And how much with total fee
Glad you enjoyed this video. We actually don't sell any of our fruit yet. I don't think we'll have enough production to ship it out of state.
Beautiful trees and fruits….surprised how late ripening. Curious where you source the VDB wood or trees…?
We mostly have desert conditions and water daily. Are you on wells?
Hey Raymond. We're on a well here and irrigate weekly for most of our trees, but fig trees wind up needing a mid-week watering during the peak of summer on top of that.
This tree was grown from a cutting that was gifted to us by a friend of ours in town.
We are a small off grid fruit farm and enjoyed your love and interest in fruit growing.
Our speciality is no speciality…..we try to grow the most challenging tropical fruits…so failure is always knocking. Our slogan or goal is to offer the “I’ve never had that fruit before” “can I try one.”
You get the drift….to our farmers market folks….many from your area during your heat waves….
@@offgridmangogrower very cool. I wish you success with that enterprise!
Do you guys have a schedule or something like an excel spread cheat sheet?
Hey there Savanah. We have an Excel file of all of our varieties as well as a ripening schedule. If you'd like a copy you can email us and I'll send it over. Email is on the About tab here on RUclips.
With a name with Bordeaux in it screams"Make more yummy fig wine out of me"! Too bad they a so small!
Oh, you know that's the first thing that went through our minds with this one! It would take an awful lot of these to make a decent batch of wine though. Maybe a gallon would be in order?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm WEll yeah call it EON Special Fig Reserve
When can I order violette de Bordeaux fig cuttings and what is your website to order the cuttings? Thanks Phoenix Arizona
Hey Heather. We don't sell trees or cuttings, at least not as of now. There are a lot of folks who do offer cuttings during the Fall and Winter months and with everything else we have going on here it's just not something we have time for right now.
Deberían probar el gota de miel en Argentina, es de lo mejor!
Oh, nunca he oído hablar de eso. Tengo que investigar un poco sobre eso. ¡Gracias por la sugerencia!
Hi I am trying to import VdB to my country. However, we have very mild/warm winter here in Mauritania. How many chill hours do they need ? Do low chill hours counts ? For instance in January the average minimum temperature is 60°F
Hello in Mauritania! I have to admit, I'm not familiar with where you live, but it sounds like you are very warm. While fig trees do traditionally need some chill hours, it's my understanding that folks have had success getting them to fruit in tropical areas (with no chill hours). I don't have any experience with that, so I wouldn't be able to say for sure.
Can you give us a your proximate farm location?
Why are your spacing so generous?
It’s all about your water quality and supply….please comment on watering.
Really enjoyed your presentation.
Hey Raymond. We're on a well here and the water quality is very good. It has a high PH, as does the soil, but it's mineral rich and clean.
You can find the farm location by doing a Google search, but Wittmann is about an hour from downtown Phoenix with near identical growing conditions as you would find the city. The exception being we are just a bit cooler in the Winter.
We have most of our trees on 16' spacing to give them enough space to reach full width at maturity. Most of our trees are semi-dwarf and will have a 12-15' spread by year 5 or 6. This allows us to keep them a bit shorter through pruning, but full width to allow for solid fruit production that can be reached without a ladder.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm looks like your right next to Iona wash…..definitely a good score for a well location. The hardness or minerals…means you have to over irrigate
To negate for the higher pH. My google does not show your recent plantings. Are you planning to market your fruit?
I find meeting our customers really brings out that pos reinforcement needed to do markets.
@@offgridmangogrower sounds like you found us. Yes, we're a couple hundred yards from the Iona wash. We will start marketing the fruit this coming growing season as we started to see solid production on our 2 year old trees this past season. For now it will be U-pick events that we'll schedule in the Spring along with our farm tours. We were in retail for over 20 years, so the thought of attending a market every weekend is not appealing! Fruit sales will be a very small fraction of our farm business, so marketing those along with our events should be enough to help us through the extra production.
What varieties of fruit are you growing?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm (finding your location was just what your farm title implies…!)
our fruit list is extensive (60 +-) but mostly non stone fruits. We are trying to decrease our footprint and plan more radical plantings to replace grapefruit and overcome water shortfalls in late summer/fall. Our daily draw is 10K gals/day.
Does this tree violette de Bordeaux tree grow well in SW Florida?
I would imagine it would do well in Florida.
Can I leave it out in the winter in a pot? I'm in Louisville, KY. It's not really feasible to bring it in in the Winter.
Hey there Julie. I wouldn't be able to say for sure as it depends on a lot of factors, but any fruit tree in a pot will be challenged on either end of the temperature spectrum. We struggle here with potted trees due to our extreme heat basically burning the roots. For you, the opposite will be the case. I found an article that may be worth reading here that gives some insight and does list the VDB as one to try down to zone 5/6 with protection;
gardenerspath.com/plants/fruit-trees/best-cold-hardy-fig-trees/
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thanks so much for the info! I will try wrapping it in burlap during the winter or get a stand with casters :)
Hey d+l
So, are figs unlike the fruit that you don't allow to fruit the first year?
Great question Allan and we broke our rule with this one! We just couldn't wait for these and after seeing how small the fruit were we just had to let them ripen. I (Duane) feel like quite the Anarchist right now!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm- thanks
Where did you buy these type of fig trees?
We actually had this donated by one of our farm customers. I'm not sure where she bought hers from.
How many varieties of figs do you grow? TFS
Hey Cindy! We currently have 9 fig varieties in the ground and 3 other varieties in pots that we need to get into the ground as soon as we expand the area.
wow, but I found a Violette last winter and sent for it. It was doing great. All summer it was growing and I'm picking off fruit. It was doing well, and then disaster. it started to drop leaves. I couldn't figure out why. Under the bark is was still green and made sap. Then I saw why it seemed to be dying. Termite, the dog, bounced up and dropped, peeing next to the fig. He has favorite marking spots, and this somehow became one. It's now fenced off and got soaked several times to flush the soil. No leaves, but I'm hoping it recovers. I need figs! I have 3 trees, and the B. turkey is now 3 years old. It makes a breba, but nothing in summer. Late summer a pine shades it and it drops its figs. can I move it? when is the best time? The latest fig is a Tex Everbearing. I'm desperate, OK? If the Violette bites the dust, I will get another.
Hey Martin. Fig trees are VERY resilient, so I'm hopeful that fig tree will bounce back for you in the spring. If you're seeing green under the bark that's a very good sign. I would imagine you should be able to move the BT once it's dormant. If not, cuttings from that tree do really well and it will be a solid size (grown in full sun) after the first season.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm February or march, then cuttings. That's as close to 'luck' as I get with them. The BT is already losing its leaves, while the Tex Ever isn't. The Golden Dorsett got nailed by wind, so I put up shade cloth as a windbreak. It seems to have stopped dying. The wolfberry is out-producing the goji and is sweeter, anyway. Where a honey mesquite comes up, it's encouraged to grow straight. That means windbreaks, shade, and nitrogen as the old-times (pre-columbian) designed their gardens. Mesquite is the queen of the crops.
@@marschlosser4540 did you purchase the wolfberry?
is there any months rain occur here.....which months
Hey Rahi. Most of our rain typically comes during the Summer months with our Monsoon season. We do get some rain in the Winter, but usually not as heavy.
Californian Brown turkey is terrible fig compared to other varieties out there. Its only grown for commercial sales, resists transport, mild to bland flavor with bog eye. The brown turkey to get is the english one likes nexoe or olympian who have honey mango and honey peach flavour. My VDB , The fruit set unripe is twice as big. Its on its second year from a single trunk 16 inch to now a tree shape after I pinched it at that height. It really depends of the tree age and strain of VDB and the varieties who are derived from it. If i have to guess my figs will be around 40 grams when ripe.
We are seeing larger fruit on this tree this year at 4 years old. Still a lot of smaller fruit, but those first several are much larger.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm brown turkey from california has a massive cavity in the middle of dead space and a thick skin while most other varieties theres no cavity and thinner skin making a much fuller fig to eat than a brown turkey
what is the planting distance on the same row?
For our semi-dwarf trees (figs being one of them) we have them on 16' spacing which allows each tree to reach their full size potential (width wise).
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Do you know what is the width at maturity for the viollette de bordeaux fig?
@@liviudorobantu3261 This is the first time we've grown it, so I won't know the answer to that for another few years. Right now it's about 6' across at 3 years in the ground.