Breaking Down Bergman - The 1960s - Highlights as a Filmmaker Evolves into an Auteur
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- David Friend and Sonia Strimban discuss one of the busiest and most creative stages of Ingmar Bergman's career, the 1960s, a time when films that were still woven around the concepts of religion like The Virgin Spring gave way to more complex psychological studies like Persona. They also each pick favourites from the time period.
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I was waiting for this! Thanks & great work.
Very good discussion by Sonia and David, although count me as well as a fan of Winter Light, which coincidentally is the Bergman film I most recently rewatched. Interesting that Sonia picked two of her three as the first two of the decade. I am embarassed to say I have not yet seen The Virgin Spring, but consider myself a fan of ALL other feature films from the sixties by Bergman. My favorites are Persona, The Passion and The Silence in that order.
My top 3
1. Persona
2. Through a glass darkly
3. Virgin Spring / Passion of Anna
guys, fyi bergman didn't write the script for virgin spring (and therefore I would not include this as a fave of the decade); my three are: 1) Persona, 2) Winter Light and Passion of Anna (with Through a Glass as runner up)...
Great discussion! I enjoyed your disagreement. I must admit that I still have trouble understanding the "Winter Light" hate. Though perhaps my pastoral ministry experience with the Catholic Church provides me with a different perspective to appreciate that film.
My top 3:
3. The Virgin Spring
2. Winter Light
1. Persona
3. Shame
2. Winter Light
1. Persona
Sonia, you were brave to pick Virgin Spring, but I think you have a problem with too much darkness. Stay away from Haneke, stay away from Tarr, in fact, avoid most European cinema.
The best films of the 60s are Hour of the Wolf, A Passion and Persona. And Winter Light is the best of the faith trilogy. Bergman was never so lost and hopeless. The bleakness is palpable. 73's Scenes from a Marriage might be his greatest achievement, but there is a unique coldness and greyness to the late 60s films that stand alone in history.
An interesting perspective, and glad to see you back!
- Sonia
A plea. I think David's hope for a more nuanced take on relationships will be rewarded with Scenes From a Marriage but, and correct me if I'm wrong, it sounds like you two are just going to view the theatrical release and not the six-part TV series, which simply won't give you that experience. The theatrical release is but an outline, less than a Reader's Digest version. I don't see why you must hold to your original decision to view theatrical releases only when the version Bergman meant for you to see is the almost six-hour one. It would be like viewing a Rembrandt with more than half the painting missing.
I think Sonia will also be rewarded in her hope to see more realistic and human depiction (You just have to get past "The Touch," IMO the worst film Bergman ever made.) But the 70's films are ALL about realistic relationships, though don't expect the psychological desperation ever to completely end.
You'll be happy to know we watched not only the theatrical version, but also the original version. And we'll be comparing the two and discussing some of our impressions. That will show up on the channel most likely in February.
David Friend Great! Now you realize, of course, that Face to Face was originally a four-part TV series, as was Fanny and Alexander ;)
I think the ''60s was probably Bergman's most important decade, but I love the '70s. Cries and Whispers was the first Bergman film I ever saw, at age 17 in a first run movie theater. It was the proverbial life changing experience. I spent the rest of the 70s seeing those films as they came out with all their amazing closeups, psychological penetration, and Liv Ullmann. Looking forward to your next videos.