Shocking midair collision and miracle landing!

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  • Опубликовано: 12 апр 2024
  • Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: app.ntsb.gov/pdf
    Investigation Docket - National Transportation Safety Board: dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms
    registry.faa.gov/N8115Q
    Location: Chandler, AZ
    Accident Number: WPR13LA004A
    Date & Time: 10/05/2012, 1407 MST
    Registration: N8115Q
    Aircraft: PIPER PA-28-161
    Aircraft Damage: Substantial
    Defining Event: Midair collision
    Injuries:2 None
    Flight Conducted Under: Part 91
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Комментарии • 83

  • @6yjjk
    @6yjjk Месяц назад +90

    Cherokee on scene above the helicopter starts descending, sounds like a great way to have a second mid-air.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Месяц назад +17

      Thats what i thought while working on the video

    • @RobertsWorkbench2023
      @RobertsWorkbench2023 Месяц назад +10

      Yeah, great comms by 044. "Hey, by the way, we've dropped down really close to the helicopter from above, just wanted to let you know" 🤦

  • @koolaid203
    @koolaid203 Месяц назад +18

    After seeing those images I am shocked, I have nearly 100 hours in a Warrior and I’m just stunned that even with half of its right wing missing and an aileron gone the pilot was able to land the aircraft and the plane itself didn’t suffer a catastrophic airframe failure

  • @billk8579
    @billk8579 Месяц назад +58

    In 1970 while stationed at Webb AFB in Big Spring, TX a T-37 from another training base had a mid air collision with a twin engine prop plane. The twin engine plane was conducting an aerial survey. The T-37 passed head on under the twin. The T-37 canopy was broken apparently by the nose wheel of the prop plane. The T-37 landed safely. The prop plane control panel was shoved back against the pilots. The pilots were able use their legs to push the control panel forward enough so the yoke had some authority and also landed safely. There was enough luck for a life time.

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf Месяц назад +2

      Holy cow that is a cool story!

    • @yamkaw346
      @yamkaw346 26 дней назад

      Hey I just landed for fuel at the old Webb AFB in big spring earlier today, small world.

  • @AVMamfortas
    @AVMamfortas Месяц назад +9

    First rate ATC. Good traffic directions and calls. Fine helping pilots. All very professional

  • @terrallputnam7979
    @terrallputnam7979 Месяц назад +5

    This is a great example of keeping your head up and out of the cockpit. I was concerned about pilots having eyes glued to the iPad.

  • @hotsoup1001
    @hotsoup1001 Месяц назад +17

    Interesting teaching moment for the student pilots in the search aircraft.

  • @markrix
    @markrix Месяц назад +14

    Someones angel filled in for that wing,.amazing professionalism w everyone

  • @coriscotupi
    @coriscotupi Месяц назад +18

    Someone should break the news to the instructors that while their students are flying VFR & practicing IFR under the hood, they (the instructors) should be specially keen looking out for traffic, as theirs are the only pair of eyes in the airplane looking at the outside. Flying VFR with all eyes staring at instruments is asking for trouble.

  • @waynef.8158
    @waynef.8158 Месяц назад +9

    Same place a heli and plane had a mid air in 2021. Glad these folks made it back to the ground, safely. Might be time to look at this area for excessive congestion and practices.

  • @justplanefred
    @justplanefred Месяц назад +3

    good to see a video with a mostly positive outcome despite what was going on...

  • @lawrencemartin1113
    @lawrencemartin1113 Месяц назад +3

    Well, so glad that seemed to work out well for all involved!! That must have been one scary ride back to the ground. Incredible piloting by the look of the damage.

  • @giftofthewild6665
    @giftofthewild6665 21 день назад +1

    He was really flying on a wing and a prayer, and managed to land it somehow 😮

  • @glsracer
    @glsracer 26 дней назад +2

    That's the luckiest Piper pilot ever. Those things lose a wing or horizontal stabilizer if you breathe on it wrong.

  • @n085fs
    @n085fs Месяц назад +19

    "Collision Aircrfats" - I knew this empennage made my butt look big.

  • @FlyingCameraGuy
    @FlyingCameraGuy Месяц назад +10

    It's hard to search when you are busy looking for traffic.

    • @EJ-74
      @EJ-74 Месяц назад

      Yep, traffic is priority

  • @terrancestodolka4829
    @terrancestodolka4829 Месяц назад

    Great teamwork... Yet all parties still have to be careful... Yet the good news that the aircraft both were able to make it safe to the ground....

  • @AZWildk4t
    @AZWildk4t Месяц назад

    I live 5 miles south of KCHD and this is the first I’ve heard of this incident that happened in 2012. Lots of planes and helicopters fly south to the Gila River Reservation for practice. Most days i have 15-20 helicopters flying over my house heading to reservation

  • @EJ-74
    @EJ-74 Месяц назад +4

    Its amazing how planes can still fly missing part of the wing, I learned this building and flying RC planes, With enough thrust and the correct CG you can make pretty much anything fly, lol.

  • @robertbandusky9565
    @robertbandusky9565 Месяц назад +5

    Lucky folks! Thank God🙏🏻

    • @phillipzx3754
      @phillipzx3754 Месяц назад +2

      Do you also thank your God when everyone dies?

  • @networkedperson
    @networkedperson 14 дней назад

    The "Accident Final Report " link provided in the description is a broken link.

  • @computeraisle
    @computeraisle Месяц назад

    When I am safety pilot for friends practicing IFR approaches, my head is looking out 95%of the time - the ADSB won't show them all, and we have a busy VOR over here (KBUM)

  • @pilotngb
    @pilotngb 21 день назад

    Know the pilots involved in 15Q. Situation handled very well by all involved.

  • @theginjaninja9768
    @theginjaninja9768 Месяц назад +3

    How did that plane land missing an aileron. Crazy

    • @alanrichardson1672
      @alanrichardson1672 Месяц назад

      Aircraft will fly just fine with one aileron, no aileron at a push!

  • @Hot1765
    @Hot1765 Месяц назад +9

    Oct 5,2012 this happened and posted 4 hours ago

    • @Yosetime
      @Yosetime Месяц назад +12

      So what? Is there a rule that channel owners have to post in real time or something? Geez. You don't own the place. If someone wants to put together a historical event, they can. In fact, they can post anything they want on their own channel. If you want today's incidents, watch a news channel. Why waste your time with a comment like that? Entitled!

    • @rogerrogerorger
      @rogerrogerorger Месяц назад +2

      The internet was slow 😊

    • @jamesmyers7066
      @jamesmyers7066 Месяц назад +2

      He was waiting for starlink to come online

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf Месяц назад

      @@jamesmyers7066 Haha!

  • @alanrichardson1672
    @alanrichardson1672 Месяц назад +2

    What is a suggested heading, never heard of that in the uk?

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater 29 дней назад +1

      Some controllers are not qualified nor required to be qualified to assign vectors depending on the airspace they're working and the equipment available. Because of that they can only make suggestions. In addition to that, the area where they had the collision and where they were looking for downed airplanes was well outside of the class D airspace that the tower controllers handle for that airport. (It's a 4 nm radius.)

  • @douglasthompson2740
    @douglasthompson2740 Месяц назад +3

    The question left unanswered is what happened to the aircraft that smacked that wing????

    • @ElementofKindness
      @ElementofKindness Месяц назад +2

      Both collision aircraft are shown throughout the video on the left.

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater 29 дней назад

      It landed on the east side of the north test track.

  • @Mark-pp7jy
    @Mark-pp7jy Месяц назад +29

    The plural of "aircraft" is "aircraft".

    • @AvgDude
      @AvgDude Месяц назад +8

      Oh deer.

    • @marcston
      @marcston Месяц назад +2

      @@AvgDude kinda weird though, in other languages it changes if plural (no and I didn;t check all language(s) ;)

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk Месяц назад +1

      Amazing. I'm a retired Air Force officer, and I didn't realise this. I don't think many AF crew members are aware of this. I did look it up, and you are right. Kudos to you, Sir ❤

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Месяц назад +3

      Thanks! Learnt something new today

    • @richardconstantine6843
      @richardconstantine6843 Месяц назад +3

      Wow! This amazing video of two planes surviving a midair collision and you choose to comment on someone’s diction. You must be a joy to be around.

  • @gavinboot4810
    @gavinboot4810 Месяц назад

    I can understand how it could fly at speed,,but how could it not stall landing..??..

  • @colintett6872
    @colintett6872 Месяц назад +2

    It’s aircraft, not aircrfats!

  • @jopool5840
    @jopool5840 Месяц назад

    Easy to happen, wing in between eyes/sight of things underneath.

  • @askiff1415
    @askiff1415 Месяц назад +2

    This was over 10years ago

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater 29 дней назад +1

      Your power of observation is unsurpassed.

  • @joycedudzinski9415
    @joycedudzinski9415 Месяц назад +5

    Getting a 404 error looking for final report.

    • @TheMcIke
      @TheMcIke Месяц назад

      From 2012: here’s the final report - data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/85265/pdf

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Месяц назад +3

      www.kathrynsreport.com/2012/10/piper-pa-28-161-n8115q-two-planes-clip.html

    • @CAROLUSPRIMA
      @CAROLUSPRIMA Месяц назад

      @@Flight_FollowerThanks.

  • @AtomicTankGirl
    @AtomicTankGirl Месяц назад +4

    "Aircrfats" lol

  • @user-tm6nq3ou1v
    @user-tm6nq3ou1v Месяц назад +1

    A hack saw and some duct tape and you got a clip wing bonanza Reno air racer

    • @ssnerd583
      @ssnerd583 Месяц назад

      need more motor....lol

  • @marcston
    @marcston Месяц назад +2

    Another great video. I used to fly in and out of Lakeland and MZeroA has a great video on how to talk to ATC at busy time, Sun and Fun. I was there as well. The only thing he said and I agree completely that getting Flight Following is better than Cold Calls as the Tower than expects you! Hope you don't mind me posting this ruclips.net/video/AEQ92L6gauc/видео.html

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto Месяц назад +1

      They’re not likely to be able to get flight following while doing simulated IMC and IFR training in a training area, since they’re not traveling point to point. There are a lot better resources out there than the one you mention, by the way, for ATC communications and general flight training.

    • @marcston
      @marcston Месяц назад

      @@RetreadPhoto MzoA in my experience is very good and much better than others who only train to pass the written. If you know better resources let me know! PS my flight following comment was on the MZeroA vid. I posted it to show how it should be done in the hope that someone learns something Feel free to disagree and have a great day!

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @prussiaaero1802
    @prussiaaero1802 Месяц назад +2

    Typical Australian - laid back approach calling a mayday, no biggie.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan Месяц назад +2

      Yeah and he said “jeez” not Jesus 😂

  • @stephenanderle5422
    @stephenanderle5422 Месяц назад +1

    Can't see shit!😎😎😎

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR Месяц назад

    ÕMĞ é Dhidd thâý Đéíđs ¿ ¿ ¿
    😲😲😲😨😨😨

  • @hswing11
    @hswing11 Месяц назад

    TERRIBLE NOTHING VIDEO

  • @MobilMobil-kv5ke
    @MobilMobil-kv5ke Месяц назад

    Interesting that the control tower radar worked perfectly well for observing and vectoring the search aircraft. Too bad that radar was useless in helping avoid the midair collision.

    • @F1fan007
      @F1fan007 Месяц назад

      The accident aircraft were not using flight following and had not filed IFR. ATC has obligations to track anyone departing or arriving at the airport, IFR flights and flight following by request. Good example as to why flight following is a good idea.

    • @8literbeater
      @8literbeater 29 дней назад

      Also, the collision happened far outside their airspace.